tv Charlie Rose Bloomberg August 27, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm EDT
♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: larry david has been called everyone's favorite curmudgeon. his particular brand of dark observational humor has made him one of the most distinctive voices in comedy. 25 years ago, he and jerry seinfeld created a show that may -- made television history. "seinfeld" ran for nine seasons and is considered by many as the greatest sitcom of all time. larry david followed his success there with the improvisational comedy series "curb your enthusiasm." he is now on broadway. he wrote and stars in "fish in the dark."
i recently spent time getting cbs's "60ead for minutes." tonight we bring you an hour of those conversations. charlie: look at this. larry david above the title. what would your mother think now? larry: she would be doing cartwheels. she would not be able to contain herself. charlie: her son on broadway. larry: yeah. i think she would lose every friend that she had. it would be a little too much. charlie: could not have imagined this. larry: no, never. charlie: and you? what does it mean for you? larry: you know, i don't look at this and do cartwheels. it could be somebody else's name almost. charlie: it is part of the process. larry: yes, part of it.
charlie: the opening scene is a man dying. yet you, larry david the writer, chose that as the opening set piece. for comedy. larry: it's funny. charlie: explain why it's funny. larry: it is dark. it is things you would normally not be able to joke about. so, on some level, that works. charlie: because that is what you have done -- finding that some level dark, some level unattractive, some level revealing and make it funny. why is it funny for the audience , because they see it in themselves or what? larry: that is part of it. and because it is something that they are not used to seeing jokes about. it is surprising. to be irreverent in a situation
like that surprises them. i think they like that because they have the same thoughts, but they weren't expressed. charlie: that idea has been very good to you, hasn't it? larry: what idea? charlie: the idea that people see it and they see thoughts they are not able to express. and they recognize it and the recognition is part of the comedy. larry: yes, yes, that is exactly right. it has been good to me and a lot of other comedians. and writers or whatever. that is what comedy is. charlie: do you know why you wanted to be a comedian? larry: yeah, because i had -- there was nothing else in the world i could possibly do. there was nothing else i could do.
yeah, i had nothing and it seemed like i was funny, so why not try and use this particular skill that i had to make a living? because there was nothing else i could do. charlie: larry david grew up in the sheepshead bay section of brooklyn, new york. he lived in an apartment complex surrounded by his extended family. larry: this was my apartment. this is where i grew up. this is where my aunt and uncle and cousins grew up. es lived here. my friends on the second floor. charlie: you grew up among -- larry: i was up and down the stairs all the time. charlie: you could come in and out.
[doorbell rings] larry hello. : >> hello. larry: surprise, surprise. we had a piano over here. it looks even smaller than i remembered it. charlie: you must be mrs. galinsky. hello. i'm charlie rose. you must know this man. larry: hello. charlie: you know he lived here. larry: look at our kitchen. look at the size of our kitchen. charlie: you had your own room. larry: yes, this was my room right here. i shared it with my brother. yeah, there were beds here and here. this is my room. and -- charlie: the kid is older or younger? larry: older.
charlie: you shared a bedroom. larry: yeah. this is the master bedroom. my parents' room. charlie: this is the bathroom. larry: yeah, that's the bathroom. this was, by the way, this was a three bedroom. so this was luxurious. charlie: house sized. larry: yeah. this was a den. this is where the tv was. my father used to sit here on the chair and watch "the untouchables." this was the couch. yeah. charlie: great. but you knew most of the people in this building? larry: yeah, you knew everybody in the building. charlie: they all knew you and everybody knew what everybody's business was? larry: absolutely. you could recite every apartment. you knew who lived in every single apartment. charlie: and who lived there before they did -- larry: yeah.
we were the first ones in the building, so for 10 years, there was not much turnover. you knew who lived in every apartment. charlie: and your grandmother would come down -- larry: yeah, my grandmother upstairs. charlie: would you eat together? larry: yeah, we would except for my father, because he came home to late -- too late from work to eat with him. charlie: he was a clothing manufacturer. larry: a salesman. charlie: it seems like this is a good thing. family, you know, everybody took care of each other. larry: it was good. i remember always trying to touch the ceiling to jump and touch it. i was this high. eventually, i got to be able to touch it. charlie: to dunk it. larry: yeah, dunk it. we used to -- they had a basket
that went over the door of the room. we would play with a big sock. you were never bored as a kid. there was no such thing. we played so many games that we invented. i can take you around the neighborhood. -- i took you around the neighborhood. we used to play with our arms and swung a ball. charlie: let me ask you this -- family is everything. you are walking back here for the first time. ever. larry: yeah. charlie: emotions? larry: not much. nothing. [laughter] no, nothing whatsoever. charlie: that's what i thought. you don't care.
larry: no, not doing anything for me. charlie: the place where your loving mother grew up with you raised youo you -- and made you, along with your father. give you the confidence to go out and be what you are. larry: oh, sure. charlie: don't you feel that? it does not touch you? what kind of heart do you have? larry: i am completely devoid of any feelings whatsoever at this moment. charlie: this is like "curb your enthusiasm", isn't it? this is that side of you. this is not the side of loving times. larry: that my friends describe. charlie: they said i was going to be surprised and meet a guy that is lovely. and he comes to where he grew up, became a young adult and feels nothing. larry: absolutely nothing. [laughter]
charlie: i mean, memories are everything. larry: you would think i would be flooded with this wave of emotions coming back to my old apartment. charlie: this is where it began , and now it's been -- larry: surprisingly unmoved. charlie: a place full of warmth to a cold mansion in l.a. larry: that's true. when can i go home? when can i go back to that cold mansion that you described? charlie: how did this -- growing up in sheepshead bay your , parents were here, brothers in the same room. your uncle and aunt next door, your grandmother above. how much of that did you, and have you dig into that as
it -- dig into that in your stand up, "seinfeld," "curb your enthusiasm?" larry: i wish i could answer that question. i know you are serious. charlie: you cannot make that connection? larry: things stay -- they have an impression on you and it stays with you. you are just able to tap into it. charlie: it is almost a creative process you cannot -- larry: exactly. it was all shaped here, whatever it is. charlie: that is as much as you know about how it works. larry: yes. charlie: you just know it works. the child is the father of the man, they say. larry: i'm sure is the same for everyone. plus, let's face it -- you are born the way you are, but if i had grown up with mr. and mrs. anderson in iowa, what i be the -- would i be the same? charlie: it is a combination.
genetics and the other part is nurture. larry: i'm not really smart enough to talk about that. charlie: i'm serious, though. it is a connection, the creative process. you know it is there. larry: this place where i am standing now, yes, it shaped everything. yeah. charlie: in part, it gives you confidence. larry: where does the word confidence -- why is that word being mentioned to me? charlie: it is not a word you are familiar with? larry: no. not in the slightest. i cannot even believe it came out of your mouth. gave me confidence? gave me confidence? when? what kind of confidence? where was the confidence? where is confidence? >> the confidence you found -- >> found?
charlie: the confidence you found when jerry seinfeld came to you and said, i want you -- larry: i didn't have confidence. it does not mean i was confident that i was going to be any good. charlie: when did you know you were going to be good? larry: i don't. i don't. what's wrong with you? charlie: both his confidence and his sense of humor emerged after leaving brooklyn. ♪ ♪
charlie: you have said on stage happy childhood, happy childhood. miserable adult, but happy childhood. so it was happy. mainly because of home? larry: i don't remember being unhappy. i don't remember bouts of depression or anything. i think once -- yeah, everything up until college was great. everything up until i graduated was great. charlie: how did you fit in at maryland? larry: that was a completely different experience than high school. charlie: in what way? larry: i fit in. i fit in. charlie: why? larry: i made friends, i was popular, i was funny. it just worked, it worked. charlie: but why?
larry: i don't know. something came out. my sense of humor came out. once i got away from brooklyn, my sense of humor came out. i sort of discovered who i was. charlie: and you can make people laugh. larry: yes. charlie: after college, larry david tried his hand at stand up comedy, but success did not come quickly. you have been described as a comic's comic. larry: well, i think to a large part, they like to come in the back of the room because very often i would not do well. charlie: you wouldn't do well. larry: i would not do well, no. charlie: the man who created "seinfeld." the man who created "curb your enthusiasm" didn't think he would do well. larry: i didn't do well very often. charlie: why?
larry: because i did not relate well to the audience. charlie: did you have contempt for them? larry: i did not -- if they liked me, i love them. if they didn't, i had great contempt. when you do stand up, there are requirements. you have to go on stage, and when you get introduced you have to say, hey, are you doing? how are you? i couldn't do it. charlie: it is even said that sometimes you would take a look at the audience and not go on. you made a judgment about them before you even gave them a chance to laugh. larry: i did that once. i was watching the previous comedian in the back of the room. there was something about him that i didn't like. when they introduced me, i got up on stage and i looked them over and said, i don't think so. i left. charlie: didn't you worry your reputation would be going down? didn't you worry that the word would get out that larry would not show up? larry: no, no. the club owner seemed to like me.
charlie: because they thought you were a comic's comic. larry: they put up with me. charlie: there is nothing, nothing that i can imagine more people saying to you, "make me laugh." larry: that's pretty demanding. it was tough. i think if i did it now, it would be a lot easier. charlie: they would know who you are and you have a persona right now. they would laugh even if it wasn't funny. larry: then i was trying to act like they were my friends. i was trying to be who i was with my friends, so i would go up and that is what i was trying to do, but they were not my friends. charlie: you also found out you were better at improvisation. larry: i did take an improv class and i remember in the
class, i remember that day i did very well. i felt great doing it. i really liked it. i could interject. i didn't have to wait for somebody to keep talking. i could make up the lines as i was going along. it was not a script. iremember every complement have gotten since i was five. i remember one of the women came up to me and said, you're really good at this. that kind of stayed with me. years later, when i got the idea for "curb." charlie: did you have to muster the courage to go up, or were you sealed to take the audience as you found them doing standup? larry: yeah, i once had this dream where there was a war going on in my house. i was upstairs sleeping and i heard the sound of cannons and gunfire downstairs in the living room, ok? in my dream, i wake up and say
, but -- what the hell is going on? i go downstairs and there is like a war. people in army uniforms. there are different sides and i ducked behind the couch. all of a sudden, there is a little stage area with a microphone in the living room. this big house that i lived in -- it was not my real house, but this dream house. through the fire and the gunfire going over my head, a guy comes up to me, one of the soldiers points a gun at my head and says , get up and do a set. [laughter] i said what? charlie: or i'll blow your brains out. larry: yeah. do a set? there is a war going on? i can't. i go through the gunfire, get up and i take the microphone -- charlie: this was your nightmare? larry: that was my nightmare. yeah, that's what it was like.
charlie: a hell of a way to earn a living. larry: well, i didn't earn much of a living. charlie: meanwhile, your friends were doing ok. larry: my friends were doing well, yeah. charlie: why are they doing well and you are not? larry: they have got it figured out. they know how to do it. charlie: or you hadn't found yourself. larry: i think a combination of both. charlie: "seinfeld" was killing them. larry: yeah, it was doing great. charlie: did you ever say to yourself that you were not going to make it? this is what i ought to be doing , oh, and and i'm not making it? larry: all the time. i used to walk around looking for spots -- charlie: no, you didn't. larry: i did. i swear to god. in the event that i became homeless, where would i stay? i found this great spot in the 40's.
between fifth and sixth. there was heat blowing out of it and i said yeah, that's for me. charlie: i will always have a home because i discovered this place. larry: exactly. charlie: you would not even go on late-night talk shows. larry: no, well i really didn't get invited. in fact, one time when i was at the improv, coordinator of the "tonight show" came up to me. i didn't even ask him about going on. i didn't say, can i go on the show? he came up to me unsolicited and said, johnny would not like you. thanks. [laughter] maybe i don't like johnny. charlie: your wife was once the coordinator for letterman? larry: yeah, my future wife at the time. charlie: and could not get you on. david said? no. larry: somebody said.
i take it was lori. [laughter] charlie: she said you are not right for my show. larry: exactly. charlie: so, there were a bunch of people sitting around talking about you, and they said that if someone had told them that you would be as successful as you are, people would say you were crazy, you are crazy to think larry david is going to be this huge star. with "seinfeld" and "curb" to his credit. larry: i could see that. i could see how they would think somebody would be crazy, but you know, -- charlie: nobody believed you would be as good as you are then, did they?
larry: well, i did have -- i don't want to say that i never did well. but when i did do well, you know, it was enough to keep me going. enough to make me think i had something to offer. jerry and i always had a really good comedy rapport. we used to write together sometimes. we would go up, and he would tell me his premises, and i would tell him mind. we would share information and help each other. then when he got the offer from nbc, he approached me. it was just that, really. charlie: you had written for him before. larry: i haven't written -- hadn't written for him, we would talk about routines.
and, laurie, my ex-wife, likes to think the whole "seinfeld" thing she was responsible for because a comedian friend of ours, it was her birthday and for a present for her, i wrote standup material for carol for her birthday present. she was having a party and at the party, she said she did not -- she said, read the material. i didn't want to read it, so jerry read it. jerry got a great laugh. laurie insists oh, well, if not for that -- laurie is the one that made jerry read it. that's why. charlie: and got a great response. larry: you know, it's a party. "seinfeldse idea was ?" larry: it wasn't much of an idea if you examine it. charlie: it was about nothing.
it was about nothing, seriously. he came up to me and mentioned that nbc wanted to do a special with him. we were both living on the west side. we were going to share a cab back. before we got into the cap, we went into the grocery store justt some stuff, and we started just talking about the products, things in the grocery as we were prone to do. as we were talking, -- this is the show, this is what it should be. this is the kind of dialogue we should be hearing. charlie: but then why did you create a character, george, who was a reflection of you rather than you playing the role? larry: it never -- that was never even on the table. it was never, i never said i would like to be in it. i did not want to be in it. charlie: why not? larry: i was not interested in acting, really. i didn't want to do that.
charlie: even though it had an kind of improvisation to it? larry: not really, it was scripted. charlie: written by you. larry: yeah, but you couldn't -- first of all, there was no way i could have been executive producer of the show and also been in it at the same time. that would have been impossible. way too much work to do that. charlie: the most successful show demands a good executive producer and a big star. don't have toou pull all of your time and attention to focus on it. charlie: did it change you? larry: i mean, it gave me money. charlie: of course it did. lots of money. confidence -- larry: it gave me something that i did not have, but not in the way that people think it was a total transformation. i still, you know, to this day i could not walk up to a woman in
the bar and say hello. i don't have that. charlie: yes, you do. larry: oh, no. i don't. charlie: you know why? larry: charlie, don't argue with me on this one, baby. [laughter] charlie: come on, all you have to do is go up to the bar and say hi, i'm larry david. larry: really? first of all, i know she would go, who are you? so what? charlie: you know better. larry: i would never do that. charlie: because you are afraid of being turned down? of rejected? larry: of course. are you kidding? charlie: are you serious? today? with all the success? larry: yes. charlie: one of your friends said to me, just think about it. he created "seinfeld," executive producer. "curb your enthusiasm." he is going to broadway. this is a man who has done something remarkable.
creating three big productions. larry: well, you are who you are from the time he was born and i don't think that changes. it never did for me. i know, externally -- charlie: it give you the confidence to get engaged after -- larry: yeah. charlie: and then it took you a while to get married. larry: it's not like i never had a date. [laughter] i'm not some hermit. i've had dates. but, yeah, it gave me the confidence at least to ask. charlie: she said yes. larry: i'm making a living, it is something you can consider. charlie: so explain to me what happened. how did larry david growing up in brooklyn become larry david , executive producer? what was it that enabled you to
take that huge leap forward and become what you are today? larry: well, certainly, you know, if jerry had not approached me that night, there is no way i am sitting here, that's for sure. that started the whole thing, that show. so, in terms of the writing aspect of it, i had no writing experience, and i think that turned out to be a good thing. i didn't know how things were done in television. i was just kind of guessing. and, somehow, it came out and it was good and acceptable. but, i think the idea that we didn't do that show the way shows are done. there is a lot of writers in a room all throwing jokes in and all working on a script at one time -- that is not how it was
done at all. charlie: how was it done? larry: it was done basically after a writer would hand in a script -- the first couple of years, there were a few writers. but mostly, all the rewriting was done by me and jerry. charlie: but do you have a unique perspective on life that somehow is funny? larry: well, i hope. i'd better. charlie: but that's what happened, isn't it? you have the capacity that somehow the world caught up with you to look at life with a certain edge. >> i must. i suppose i do. i couldn't articulate it. i don't know what it is. charlie: you don't know what it is? larry: no. charlie: has anybody ever tried
to explain it? what do they say? larry: one article i read said i take -- i make -- i blow up the small things and reduce the big things. there is some truth to that. i don't know. charlie: it is probably better you don't know. larry: yeah, probably. charlie: one seinfeld -- who made the decision to end it? larry: i left two years before it was over and jerry went on for the last two years. charlie: and he decided that he wasdoing quite well, he working so hard. larry: it would have been nine years for him, seven years for me. charlie: was it hard to leave? larry: i think i was ready. after you do those shows for a while, the bar is so high that it is almost intimidating to think, how am i going to do another 22 shows? it seems impossible. i would go through that same
thing every year, and then finally i thought -- charlie: that is what the guys from monty python told me. they didn't think they could be that good every year, be that funny. you know, running against yourself. larry: you're right. you are in competition against your previous seasons. charlie: what did you think you were going to do after you left "seinfeld?" larry: i thought i would do some stand up. charlie: what was your state of mind at this time? larry: leaving "seinfeld?" charlie: yes. larry: when the show premiered in september, i remember thinking, you idiot. what have you done? oh my god. all your friends are there, all the fun is there. what did you do? so i was upset, yeah.
i thought i really made terrible mistake. charlie: i have no pride in this question, but were you happy? [laughter] charlie: would you look at larry and say, i'm all right? larry: i don't think like that. but, i do have a much better disposition than people expect. charlie: meaning what? larry: generally, my mood is pretty good. before i did "seinfeld," i was very bleak. i would wake up in the morning and my first thought was oh, no. no of got a go through this now. oh, i've got to go through this now. charlie: another day. larry: but, once "seinfeld" started, all those thoughts were done. charlie: "seinfeld" did what for you? it gave you -- larry: it gave me a reason to --
i don't know. if focused me on something. charlie: success can give you confidence. larry: i guess. yeah. i don't know. when you are working hard, focused, you just do it. you don't really think about it. but i'm a much happier person than people expect. charlie: that's what your friends say. larry: i'm in a good mood generally. i'm much happier post-"seinfeld." there is no comparison. charlie: is it in part because of success? people said they did it well, this is the greatest sitcom in the history of television. you created, along with jerry, the greatest sitcom in the history of television, that is what they say. that gives you confidence.
[laughter] charlie: that gives you something to call home about. larry: not the way you would think it does. charlie: then what way? larry: well, you don't have to worry about money anymore. so, that terrible problem is gone. and that is a huge deal. that is huge. once that is gone, you don't really have any right, given what your lifestyle is, you have no right to complain. you cannot complain. you have too much, there are too many people who have nothing. i used to have nothing. i was able to complain, ok? i was able to be dark and bleak and complain, but once i started making money on that show, all reasons to complain were out the window.
i had my health. i had money. could not complain, could not justify it, no way. i mean, i could complain to myself, but never to another person. charlie: tell me about the creation of "curb your enthusiasm." larry: well, so now i finished "seinfeld." charlie: you had a lot of money , but not as much as they say. [laughter] larry: right. i had a lot of money, but not as much as they say. i was thinking about going back to do stand up. i had not done it in 10 years. jeff garland, who played jeff green on the show, the funniest guy, he had an office next door to me and said, what are you did -- what are you going to do? i said i was thinking about
going back to stand up. he said you should film it, film the process of going back after a ten-year absence of doing standup. he said he would direct it. i didn't want to do that. i don't want the camera following me around. i didn't like that idea. i spoke to my ex-wife about it. she said i should do it, but i wasn't convinced. then, i started to think about it and i thought, if they filmed the stuff on stage, that would be fine. it is the stuff that would be off the stage that i would have a problem with because it seemed really boring. what are they going to do -- i will go to the dry cleaner and they will film me? it was nothing. it would be boring. i did not like the whole idea of a camera following me around like that. but then i thought, suppose i made up some stuff. suppose i created a fictional kind of world where i was married and i had a manager and jeff would play the manager. i will create some funny situations that we could film as
if they were real. i said to jeff, you don't direct it, you play my manager. i will write it. i wrote this outline. charlie: mainly improvisation. larry: it had to be improvisational, but because -- improvisational, because if it is supposed to be a documentary, it cannot be scripted because it would not seem like it was spontaneous. that's how the whole thing started. charlie: this is the way larry david on "curb your enthusiasm" -- outrages,ribed offensive, antisocial, politically incorrect, unfiltered. larry: i love that. charlie: why do you love that? larry: i just love all those things. that is what a comedian is supposed to be. charlie: all that? larry: yeah. charlie: the main thing a comedian should be is authentic. and funny. but why the disconnect? "seinfeld," but
why has this connected? because people somehow deep inside of them, including you, would like to be that character. would like to be unfiltered, would like to say what is on their minds with no consequences. would like to have no social restraints. larry: yes. that is exactly right, because we have to behave a certain way in society, and if you don't we cannot get along. social intercourse is filled with so many lies and deceit. it is all so deceitful that everybody has all these thoughts. charlie: would we be a better world if everybody expressed these thoughts? larry: no, i don't think so. [laughter] charlie: so it is a good thing. but it is a good chance for us to see it. and sort of fantasize we could be like that. larry: right. every social encounter has anxiety and all kinds of things
that are lurking behind it. it is all subjects. ubtext. everybody has thoughts they are not expressing about the other person or other things in general. with this show, i was able to express every thought i had. charlie: about everything. larry: yeah. charlie: about making love with a palestinian woman. larry: yeah. [laughter] charlie: where did that come from? larry: i just thought i was the kind of guy who would have sex with anyone. i wouldn't care what her beliefs were. i could have sex with an anti-semite. what do i care? so what? [laughter] larry: if there was an attractive anti-semite won its -- who wanted to sleep with me, i wouldn't care. charlie: what would she say
while making love? "occupy me," is what she said. larry: she made all that stuff up. that is the thing about this improvisation. i cannot write better than but -- than what these actors can come up with. she came up with all that stuff. all the actors did. charlie: who came up with the idea of taking a holocaust survivor and a survivor from the television show? the mind of larry david. larry: all of a sudden, there was a promo for "survivor" on television. it struck me. i cannot believe nobody put this together that there are holocaust survivors who call themselves survivors. then, i thought yeah, i have to get those two in the same room.
who had the worst experience? charlie: and make it funny. larry: and make it funny. i also thought that this seems like an idea that is right there for the plucking. we better get this out fast. charlie: does anybody say to you, larry, you have gone too far? larry: yeah, yeah. charlie: and you ignore it. larry: yeah. charlie: because you are your own man. larry: here's the thing, everybody likes something as long as it does not affect their group. what they are part of. charlie: say anything about them, but don't you dare talk about me. larry: my good friend of mine who loves the show, she loves the show. she would call me up after shows. the most offensive stuff was going on and she could not get enough, but as soon as there were something about a dog, nope.
you could say that a lot about a lot of -- you could say that about a lot of different people. charlie: but was there a point in which you said, i have gone too far? there will be too much of a reaction against this? because out of the mind of larry david, it is ok? larry: because i am doing what makes me laugh. if i feel like something is too far, it is probably not making me laugh. charlie: that's the test, isn't it. makesomedians know what them laugh, and that is what they can create. larry: yeah. charlie: is it genius? [laughter] charlie: don't you do that. what you have. larry: ridiculous. charlie: is it fun? larry: it is so much fun. charlie, i just had the greatest time on "curb." i was laughing. i don't know if you could tell.
charlie: larry david has lived an extraordinary life, one that even he can appreciate. hasn't larry david looked out for himself? larry: charlie, i mean, charlie. charlie: what would you change about your life? larry: about my life? charlie: yes, your life. larry: that is a tough question. i don't know. i cannot think of anything. it would sound too petty for television. charlie: in other words, you are editing yourself now. larry: yeah. charlie: i want you to tell me. larry: somebody has to edit me, you are not going to. charlie: i don't want you to. larry: everything i don't want to say i know is going to be aired.
i'll go, i said that? charlie: just tell me. what don't you like about your life? larry: i'm very happy with my life. charlie: are you afraid of people thinking that? larry: no. charlie: or are you afraid of them knowing what you don't like about your life? larry: that, yeah. charlie: is it women? [laughter] larry: yeah. charlie: women is one thing. what else? larry: it is women, yes. charlie: are you telling me the truth? larry: yeah, yeah. charlie: larry david has a woman problem? larry: i wouldn't put it like that. i would say that i'm relationship challenged.
charlie: why? larry: this is why i did not want to say anything! i don't want to talk about this. charlie: i do, though. larry: i'm sure you do. i can't talk about it. it is too hard to talk about it. i can't talk about it. i'm uncomfortable talking about it. charlie: but why is it hard, then? larry: it makes me uncomfortable. charlie: it is personal and none of my business. larry: i will tell you when the camera is off. charlie: i know you will. what i'm trying to do is say that this is what everybody watching this wants to know. who is larry david? larry: you are too much, mr. rose. charlie: why? larry: you are probing. where is the probe? who the hell knows? i don't know. charlie: you do know.
larry: whatever you are seeing is who i am. charlie: you said you created a character. it is not you. it might be who you want to be , but it is not. who are you? [laughter] larry: i don't know, charlie. leave me alone. leave me alone. charlie: you just want to go back into your routine, don't you? larry: yes, yes, leave me alone. charlie: and your routine is ok. larry: it's ok. i want to get you out of my life right now. who am i? i'm a jerk, that's who i am. charlie: you're not, that's an act. how are you a jerk? larry: i'm just a jerk. let's stop talking about me. this is why i didn't want to do this interview in the first place. do you think i wanted to do this? i didn't want to do this because i knew you would be asking questions like this. i didn't want to do "60 minutes."
charlie: then why did you do it? larry: they talk to me into this like they did for the play. charlie: so you are a guy that can be talked into things. you have no backbone. you have no capacity to say no. but the guy you create would be able to say no. larry: there you go. charlie: and there's your biggest hangup. you can't say no because you have a character that could say no. you are not a jerk when you could create a character that could be a jerk because you can't be one. larry: that is good. i like that. how much do you charge? that is better than any therapy i have gotten. charlie: your director just said to me -- charming, dashing, handsome. larry: yeah, yeah. dashing? charlie: do you feel that? larry: i don't feel dashing. ♪ i don't feel dashing. ♪
you think i feel dashing? are you insane? do you think i have ever had one moment of feeling dashing -- maybe if i was drunk, but no. i don't feel dashing. charlie: you know what women say -- back to women -- nothing is more attractive to a woman than somebody that makes them laugh. [laughter] larry: that's just utter nonsense. that is such nonsense. gilbert gottfried did the funniest joke about that. i wish i could remember. no, they might say that, ok, but no. charlie: what do they mean? larry: i was funny when i had nothing and it did not work, ok? charlie: i promise you this is my last question about women. what do you think women want? larry: what do they want? they want love, security.
charlie: and -- and then you must be attractive to them. larry: i could give them one of those. charlie: is there any part of you that says, i have conquered television? i have plenty of money. i could go back to television anytime i want. they are begging me to do more. i want to do something new. i want a challenge. wantedwell, certainly i to do something new by writing the play. all of a sudden, it was presented to me to be in it. yes, i did have that moment of , this is going to be really challenging. and, yeah, i made the decision to do it. charlie: and you are glad you did. you are. larry: yeah, but --
charlie: you are glad you were talked into doing it. larry: ok, ok. i'm glad, somewhat. i'm glad with reservation. charlie: what are the reservations? larry: the reservations are the schedule. charlie: the schedule? larry: there is a sameness to every day that i find very disturbing. charlie: and boring or just disturbing? larry: disturbing. charlie: you like variety every day. you like improvisation in your life. you don't like a script in your life. larry: exactly. that is perfect. yes. my life is scripted and it is odd. it's odd. look, i don't want to complain. ♪ rishaad: this is "trending
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