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two big happy birthdays today. thomas "tip" johnson and hillary clinton. and what better way for the latter to celebrate her 68th then topping our rundown tonight? mark's utterly compelling magnum opus on why hillary clinton is our next president -- the recent
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are several, including a strong performance in des moines this weekend. today, clinton put out a new ad in which she says she will do every she can to make sure women are paid the same. i know your global view about secretary clinton's strength -- give us a state of the front runners campaign. mark: the most likely next president -- strong against bernie sanders although he could still topple this whole thing. but she has strengthened both those states and nationally the republican party is not positioning as well as the general. john: it is fascinating, the extent to which we were marked on this before but it was clear in iowa how much this race will come down to iowa. if she can win in iowa she is on a glide path to the nomination. we can write off new hampshire. if she loses in iowa and he beats her in new hampshire, it
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will be a much more difficult scenario. she will still probably be the favorite. but it will become located mark: a lot of republicans -- but it will be complicated. mark: i heard from a lot of smart republicans today who said thanks for writing that piece. we need to get ourselves a nominee who can beat her because she will be the nominee. john: she is a general election candidate and the advantages she has, the possibility that she could get through this primary relatively unscathed while republicans fight for months, she can. be very formidable. mark: there once was a front runner named jeb but today he is down to 5% in iowa according to the latest poll. he is literally tied with rand paul, two bullet points under not sure. he seemed to be frustrated and i will use the cliche -- not to be
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fighting for his political life. >> i got a lot of really cool things i can do other than the at around being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them. that is a joke. elect trump if you want that. mark: that soundbite will come back if he is the nominee. if not they say he showed frustration. he is down in florida and texas today after meeting with his big donors. what is the state of the bush campaign today? john: i wouldn't go so far to say that it is on life support but it is reeling. nobody looks at that and says that is the kind of jeb bush that they want to see or that they thought they would see when he launched his campaign. mark: big reporting coming out of houston that the presentation of the donors -- marco rubio is
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a bit like obama. if they can eliminate marco rubio, and he has not been embedded enough, if they can eliminate his competition for all the problems they will own the establishment lane. kasich, christie trying to compete -- he is right there. john: you and i have seen that so few republican voters in the early states have a lot of enthusiasm for jeb bush, and the optics of this thing -- you have to circle the wagons when you are in trouble, but so much is about the fact that he is a bush. the optics of running home right into donald trump's critiques, i don't think this looks good for him. . let's talk about donald trump. oh, how the mighty have kind of fallen. he is in second place now in iowa. that news may have gotten under his skin, because that skin is like an orange peel, but not
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that thick. here's some of his media rampage in which he goes after some of his republican hopefuls, starting with jeb bush. >> he is losing, he is getting killed. he is meeting now with mom and dad. [laughter] >> no, it's true. i like ben but he cannot do with trade like i do with trade. ben carson is a very low-energy person. ben is lower energy than jeb. he doesn't even go to iowa that much. you look at carson, he is very weak on illegal immigration. he said they would come in from love. rubio, the gang of eight, he is way down. this guy was so weak and all of a sudden he said maybe i can do that. they are all week on immigration. john: we talked about the two legacy candidates. what do you think about where he is right now? mark: the trunk doubters will
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say this is the beginning of the end. this is a test. he is behind now and he has to figure out how he fights in iowa. he hasn't gone on tv with ads. he has not been a great candidate. if he went to iowa now and talked about immigration and leadership his numbers might improve. he doesn't have to be ben carson in iowa to be the nominee but let's see how he reacts to adversity. john: his attacks in the past have always seemed very shrewd and pointed. this felt like a discriminate flailing to the point where he is attacking our poster because he didn't like the outcome. that to me, when he is on his game and driving negative messages, is very powerful. but when he is flailing around i think it makes them look weaker. mark: marco rubio and jeb bush are still bigger threats, ben
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carson. and again, trump is an inefficient. john: the question whether this is a harbinger of other things. if he can isolate the damage to iowa he can easily survive. we will be right back with jay nomura sanders, after this. ♪
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integrity, honesty, and hard-working. >> credible, honest, moral. >> smart, socialist, jewish. >> amazing, progressive, and new. >> very devoted following. >> not for sale.
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john: that was what we got when we asked voters on saturday night to give us three words to describe senator bernie sanders. we ask those same questions to a woman who knows slightly better. jane o'meara sanders. it is great to have you here. let me start with a simple question. tell us about your family. >> we have four grandchildren and seven grandchildren. we love to be with them. we get back to vermont to hang out with them. no matter what else we are doing we try to get home at least one night every few weeks. john: what are your three words for your husband? >> integrity is definitely one of them. caring, and honest. loving, wonderful. [laughter] mark: tell us a story of how you met. >> we first met -- it was strange.
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when he was running for mayor, i was a community organizer. the neighborhood organizations that i organized came and met with the then mayor. the questions they were asking were being invaded. evaded. i started to stand up and asked questions and they said you sound like bernie sanders. whose bernie sanders? i think he's running for mayor. let's organize the debate. we had a debate a couple weeks later, and i immediately fell in love with this idea. shortly thereafter, fell in love with him. mark: do you remember the first words you exchanged? >> think i said welcome. but nobody was paying attention
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to the then mayor the kiss they weren't supportive, so i had to go take care of whoever needs you. mark: i was really hoping it would be "man, you are smoking hot." [laughter] mark: you guys went on a honeymoon described as unusual -- the soviet union. your husband later described it as a strange experience -- tell us about the honeymoon. >> we went to the soviet union to establish a sister city relationship. that was 1988. he asked me to marry him, in march, and i said when? we really don't have any other time -- we are going on this diplomatic mission to do a sister city. we don't have any other time we can take off. so we picked our dates, realizing we would have to be
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heading to the memorial day parade on the 29th and traveling to russia on the 29th in the afternoon. so on the 28th -- there this. our wedding was determined by that but it was fun. we had 10 people with us and had a wonderful time, but it was not your normal honeymoon. it was really educational. john: what time of year was it? >> may. john: springtime in the former soviet union. >> it was quite wonderful, the sister city is still going on. doctors, hospitals, all these different relationships that we have continued. john: you are married to a senator, but now he is a little more famous. how is the life changed? >> it's amazing -- you can't walk down the street. in vermont people are so used to seeing us and it's fine, but we just walked down to new york and
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people are turning around and stopping and asking for selfies. that is the hardest thing -- we can't get any alone time. john: a lot of upside for people being so nice. what are some of the downsides? >> just the lack of privacy. we are meeting wonderful people. we are supporting you because of this, you are speaking to my issues, thank you for running. that is one of the things that has been really nice to see, that people are just interested in the celebrity, or that person is on tv. its eye level you are saying about college tuition, health care, then telling us personal stories. i would really like to get to know of these people. mark: your husband is obviously very passionate and principled and committed. he talks about issues, his ideology, is the lease.
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he doesn't talk that much about himself. presumably there is a side of bernie sanders that you see that the public doesn't. would you like for the public to be able to see more of the bernie you know? >> i would. on the other hand, i think he has limited amounts of time to talk about the issues that are so important. that is why he is running for president, not because he is a wonderful person or a loving father or grandfather and that he likes to have fun. hopefully they will get to see more of that as time goes on. i think it is happening as more and more media interest is taking place, that he is being able to talk a little bit more, instead of saying ok, i have this one time to talk about issues.
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he has been pretty funny -- mark: we were so impressed by his real focus on issues. it is great to have a presidential candidate that disciplined, to save he doesn't care about the soap opera. regardless of what you think of his positions that is great, but on the other hand, don't you want to know your political leaders? it is part of electing a leader. >> i tell him that. then he gives me the same face he gives you. [laughter] mark: so you have tried to convince him. >> i have. john: is that an anecdote -- it's got nothing to do with issues, what do you want to know? >> he loves music. he is just very sincere, and when he is not talking about the issues, he is very present. he is listening to them and enjoying what they are telling him. he is thinking in the back of his mind about what else has to happen but he does a christmas
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party every year, holiday party. for seniors, then there is one -- he ran his first campaign for mayor against condominium complex, luxury condominium complex on the waterfront. the developer has become a very good friend. he's a republican -- we never asked him for any donations, but he has become a good friend, and he started with us 35 years ago to have a christmas party or holiday party for low income families. then we moved to have holiday parties for veterans. he has not missed that in all those years. he has a breakneck schedule but he doesn't miss that. mark: two quick questions -- whose imitations do you like better, his or larry david or him of larry david? [laughter] john: and one imitation he does is his monster imitation.
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do you do a monster? >> i do not. john: do you do any? >> i do not, i read to them. he teaches them chess and baseball and soccer. that is something that your viewers would know. that if something happens every time he is home. john: i now have this desire to take it with me to the world series. >> wait, you have to take me. [laughter] john: jane o'meara sanders, you are fantastic, thank you. what three words best describe hillary clinton among iowa voters? the answers when we are back.
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experienced, vibrant, and educated. >> dynamic, beautiful, electable. tough, motivated. >> beautiful, the future, madame president. >> strong, independent, and intelligent. >> good, strong, and determined. john: that is what we got when we asked iowa voters and one very famous non-iowa voter to give us three words to describe hillary clinton. joining us now to talk about the clintons is jeff flake, a longtime democratic strategist in iowa. he is an outside advisor to obama biden. thanks for joining us. bill clinton and katy perry both appeared alongside hillary clinton on saturday, and bill clinton to some of our years was not at the top of his game. >> i would not be surprised in iowa if we see some republican
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farmers from new york shall appear. one of them called me the other day saying that i want to go back. all i know is i'm not sure what party i'm in anymore. she is the only person who ever did anything for our farmers. >> were you rusty or good? >> i hope both. >> was it fun? >> yeah. john: later i also talked to him about selfies have changed politics. you can see that on bloomberg.com. even bill clinton is rusty probably 10 times better than most. how much can he help his wife on the ground? is very popular in the state. he has always had a lot of fans in iowa, particularly among democrats. will be huge asset for her.
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mark: you saw what barack obama's team built in terms of the caucus, which was unprecedented. hillary clinton's team, everyone says it is better. except for relative strengths of the clinton ground game -- >> i think saturday night was an important test of that ground game. as people compare 2008 2 saturday night, it was clear that the clinton campaign has upped their performance. it was her room on saturday night in des moines. from that standpoint, you can't really get a true assessment except looking at these interim stops to compare the campaigns. she showed she was at the top of the game, certainly saturday. but look, these sanders people came on buses. it takes a certain level of organization to fill up buses and make sure they get there on time. some people thought they left
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early, since a bunch of people left while the secretary was still speaking. sanders has built either. there is definitely a lot of enthusiasm. a lot of people try and skip over martin o'malley, but he had a pretty strong group that was there as well. i happens to be sitting in that corner of the room. they were very enthusiastic. mark: fill in the blank. the best reason to save bernie sanders might win the iowa caucuses blank. >> energy. momentum and energy at the end of the caucus really matters. ask rick santorum. we were talking a lot about how how this jj compared to 2000. bill bradley had all the energy in the world going into that
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jj, and turned it that evening. it wasn't as palpable that night, but it really started to turn the whole dialogue around. that is what i think energy is the most important. john: and we have to go back -- one of the things that obama did well was expand them. 230,000 people who showed up, more than have ever turned out. what is your best guess, given what you can see right now, as to what the numbers might be like come february 1? >> i think it is going to be tough to reach the 2008 numbers, just because it was twice will we had ever seen before. but i think we will get somewhere close to that range. i was quite surprised at the viewership of the first am a credit debate. i think there's genuine enthusiasm. john: are people engaged in politics who haven't in the past because of him? >> i think there are new people joining in that sanders effort. mark: just looking at that room, the saddest people felt that --
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a lot of people there are not people who would come out for anyone else. >> and we have that every cycle in iowa. we always talk about how there is this hard-core group of caucus attenders, but in that hard-core group every single cycle, 10%-12% are people who just get enthused about a candidate. some of whom don't ever do it again. it is a small group, but there is always that 10%-12% that is brand-new. john: jeff link, unaffiliated, but representing all iowa democrats. thanks so much. we will be right back after this.
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john: you know what's legal in colorado? smoking weed.
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we will be taking part in at least two when we are live from boulder for the third republican debate. we will see you then. mark: sayonara. ♪
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