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the full hour. we will have donald the j. trump, that's right, the trump. we will have him for the full hour. so is it ben carson or in fact marco rubio's season in the sun? rubio support spike in a new hampshire where a new monmouth university poll shows about nine points since september and now he is at 13%. iowa, onee call in person who is not impressed is, surprise, surprise, the ever mentioned mr. trump -- the aforementioned mr. trump. don't think he is going to make it and i was watching the press is morning and one of the shows and marco rubio is nowhere in the polls.
i don't think, personally, i call him a lightweight. at 1.i called him a lightweight. insulting, --o be i called him a lightweight. i do mean to be insulting, but it is true. john: how real is marco rubio's rise? marco rubio can survive the betting that is coming, and he has the establishment, people who are not wedded to bush, and he has a great campaign. he is great with people and he is, right now, on everybody's list of possible nominees. john: you can't make too much about these endorsements, but in ,he last few days, paul singer anyone who is as important with any republican donors, signed with rubio. , a freshman today
senator, but a new voice in the party, those are big bolsters for rubio. as far as we know, marco rubio has skyrocketed. sort of how carly fiorina did after her good debate, but he has to keep it going. look, there is still the question we keep raising again and again, what state will rubio win early on? that is indicative of anything else, if other polls, coming he could be in a good place. mark: there is a new force in the party for sure. if you follow politics, you know that any candidate is legally able to reboot its party 96 times. today, jeb bush rebooted his party for the 24th time. there was a speech in tampa where jeb took new aim at president obama and hillary clinton.
he discusses why the florida governor should matter more. to debate,f he wants he probably came away with the election being about soundbites or fantasy football or which candidate can interrupt the loudest. i am here to tell you it is not. this election is not about a set of personalities. it is about a set of principles. [applause] jeb bush: the challenges we face as a nation are too great to roll the dice on another presidential experiment. to trust the rhetoric of reform over a record of reform. after seven years of incompetence, corruption, and gridlock in washington, we need a print -- president who can fix it. mark: this is what he told me about his resilience in this debate. what these say about the people who say you can't fight? jeb bush: oh man, they don't
know me, they don't know me. i eat nails when i wake up. this is because of my family background. jeb's new phrase is "jeb can fix it." we will continue to ask, where -- will these new slogan fix what jeb is missing? john: this is a different take on the paleo diet, that will at least keep him slim. he needs some good news and he needs a message that is comprehensible to some people. one of the things when he started out was people thought he was going to run on his florida record. most people do not know what jeb bush is all about, and if they don't know that, then they are not going to go his way. the people who had the
best chances were christie, kasich, andbush -- bush. his experience is relevant to these soundbites are doing much better for him than attacking trump or rubio. john: one of the things we said before he got in this race was how did his absence from politics affect him? that time in florida seems a long time ago. mark: he is eating some rusting else. rusting ales, yeah, ok. ok.: -- rusty nails, yeah, john: and it is possible that the movie topic of this could be served up by christopher nolan. this week began with uncertainty quash the tries to
revolt from its candidates. demand fromnew television networks and moderators and "the washington post" says that donald trump will negotiate his own rules with tv executives separately. mark, my question to you is, will these republican campaigns get what they want? mark: trump knows full well that they cannot do the shoe without him. he will probably have a lot of leverage to get it. john: as he got with cnbc. he got what he wanted -- cnbc. he got what he wanted. mark: most of them want opening statements. john: ted cruz has said he only wants moderators who have voted in the republican primaries and chris christie does not think that is all legitimate warfare -- at all legitimate or fair. is widew that the thing
open, i don't really know where it is going to go, but i do note that whatever the final solution is, trump and carson are going to have a lot of say. john: and of course, the various outlets are going to push back. mark: coming up next, our extended conversation with donald trump, his discussion on marco rubio, the discussion in syria, his talk of "saturday night live" and his discussion on what other candidates did for halloween, when we come back in 60 seconds. ♪
republican party. to tell you what about how many votes we will get, but it is about getting the most that we win. >> i go around iowa and i am like johnny appleseed. and i like to remind of that they are doing a good job and that they should trust their judgment. the person that i selected could havene. we need to have our say, respect everybody, give them more time. those were three of the many republican candidates that i got to speak to over the weekend at the republican meeting. another candidate who was in iowa that we talked to was ted cruz. is trying to flesh out his personal story sometime in the near future. saturday, i caught up with the senator and his father to
talk about something that could not be more personal, family. mark: how do you usually spend the holidays? this is a time for us to give blessingsgod's great on the wonderful country in which we live and it is a time tablech we go around the and everyone says, what are you most thankful for? what is that it would like to express thanksgiving to god for? there is a real communion around the dinner table. ted cruz: i would also say at one of the wonderful things about my dad during christmas is that he cooks his famous flan. you might think you have good flan, but the thing about my dad's flan is it is about six inches tall and it is encrusted with roasted coconut.
we sit around and eat that and theynd play dominoes and are pretty cutthroat. mark: is it really that thick? do you really put a lot of coconut in it? >> yes, i put a lot of coconut in it. mark: do you shred it or do you buy it shredded? >> i buy it shredded. mark: you spend a lot of official holidays together, so what is this your going to be like? >> i think we will spend time to reflect on the birth of christ and why christ came to earth to die for our sins. it is a very sacred time. the only thing that ted did not like about christmas is, you know, ted was born on december 22, and several people in my would say,sister this president is for your birthday and for christmas and ted, when he was a little kid would always say, it "dad, why
wasn't i born in july?" he always felt cheated. mark: i don't blame him. [laughter] cruz, senator cruz, thank you. >> thank you. ted cruz: i am sure this christmas will involve watching the new "star wars" movie. i am looking forward to that. mark: so yes, his father is on the ground talking to people. a double-edged sword for him, he is a guy who is seen by people who would even admire him as someone who is a little severe and a little unapproachable, so to the extent that he can soften himself and become more inviting is a good thing. his father is a very controversial figure, very, very far right, and evangelical pastor who has said some very controversial things. elevating his father carries real risks for him down the road as a nominee.
mark: but a lot of republicans who worked in the bush campaign with ted cruz think he is a nasty, arrogant, un-fun guy. the fact is, his friends like him, his family like him, and he is going to have to show people, if he wants to be president, he is good to have to show people that we will see more personality. that heere is no doubt has a personality and that he has a sense of humor, like when we saw him out in iowa, he was very genial. took him to the woodshed and said that is not unusual in a lot of places where ted cruz has spent time, so he is going to have to counteract that with the party, i think. mark: he is working very hard and i am seeing progress with him in iowa. john: there is another guy who is trying to beef up his personal narrative and that is bernie sanders. check out this ad, the first of
a campaign, of his campaign, which will begin running in iowa and new hampshire tomorrow. >> the son of polish immigrant who grew up in a brooklyn tenement. he went to public school i went to college where his life in public service began fighting inequality, and speaking truth to power. he is one of america's best men, bernie sanders. father, grandfather, and a leader building a movement to give us a future to believe in. john: mark, the sanders campaign says it is going to back up that ad with $2 million on the air. they are going to be ramping up their campaign to the hillary clinton level as we get closer and closer, so my weston to you is, how much does the human bernie matter for success? mark: it matters a lot. one of the best ads i have seen in this cycle, and maybe several
cycles, it is a 60 second spot, great photographs, it tells a story, and it links his personal biography with what he cares about, his agenda. john: that is the key thing, right? the key thing that barack obama showed back in 2008 is how do you tell a story, not just the personal details, but how does your biography line up with your campaign? sanders has a very credible lineup and he just has to allow his campaign to do it. he is so reticent about that background. mark: in presidential politics, it matters. this will be fascinating to see if this can get him to pick up any of these themes of the personal stories. inn: there is no humanity his stump speech at all, not a lot of humor. mark: a little humor. john: a little humor, but he is a guy who has got to let go a little bit and let that stuff out because you can't win just
corporate inversions, you say that this is a serious problem. donald trump: i have. john: how our corporate versions different? donald trump: these are legal and it is much different in this have 2.5you could trillion dollars or more and the corporations want to bring it out and they can't bring it back because it is so prohibitive, so bad, and so complicated. so what is happening is that countries are leaving our country and they are leaving our country and then thinking about massive numbers are thinking about the need to go out and to get that money. also, to get a better tax deal. john: so when you are saying it is a problem, you are saying is that the laws are the problem --
laws are the problems, not the companies' behaviors? donald trump: it is so prohibitive, but under my plan, and a couple of others, but nobody knew about corporate inversion until i talked about it. nobody knew about what corporate inversion is. i do know about it. those hundreds of thousands of jobs went to other countries and you are going to lower taxes and bring that money in and you are going to use that money to build and to do things in the united states. john: so you are not talking about pfizer at all? donald trump: no, in the old days, you could go down to florida or new jersey or go to texas to save taxes. now because of the way the world's, so different, you leave the united states or you go to ireland you go to asia and europe. i mean, it is a different world and we have to compete better. greatthis is a institution, so is "saturday night live," you are doing it
next week. are you nervous? how are you feeling about it? donald trump: i am just excited about it. i met with lorne michaels today to come up with some skits and i am just going to be very excited. john: i have a skit idea, so think about it. donald trump: i will think about it. john: this is once one of the largest ice rings in the world. obviously, that was back in the 50's. donald trump: we have more people. we have more people than any other ice rink by far in the world. john: do you skate yourself? donald trump: i don't. john: do you ever exercise on the ice? donald trump: no, i run for office. i play golf, i play tennis, i love sports. i don't have much time for exercising, but i do love sports. mark: here is a question that we almost never get to ask you and i have wanted to ask you for a while. what do you like to eat? donald trump: i love steak and
hamburger and pasta and french fries, all of the things that we shouldn't be eating. john: you need to do more exercises though. mark: do you have three meals a day? donald trump: pretty much, i try. a lot of times i can't. mark: there are a lot of things that you liked either you just can't resist? donald trump: yeah, bacon, bigs -- eggs, steak. you hear a report that comes out as is you can't eat it and then ie what i like. it has been working. how many pieces of bacon would you eat in one sitting? donald trump: don't ask. john: don't ask? donald trump: don't ask. john: more than two? donald trump: more than two. john: what do you think about kansas city and the mets in the world series? donald trump: kansas city is great and they have come so far, and they should be proud of themselves. kansas city has a great winning team. during the whole season, they would come back, and i love
these comeback people, and they would come back and they would set a record for comebacks. there is something special about that. they would come back on a number of occasions with the mets. mark: what do you do to make them laugh? donald trump: i spent as much time with them, and the time is tough, but more and more, i giving management over to my children and to my executives into my company. but i do nothing to make them laugh, i just love them. mark: no funny faces? donald trump: a little bit. mark: bernie sanders is a monster. donald trump: he blew it, bernie sanders blew it. you know what? he blew it with the e-mails. when he gave that up, i thought, great soundbite, but that is the end of him. when he gave up the e-mails, which he shouldn't have given up, i said great soundbite, i said, he is dead. , you werehis rink
talking about extraordinary details as to how the ice was made. have you ever driven a zamboni? donald trump: i have come a one-time. john: what is it like? donald trump: it is great. john: tell us about your dad. donald trump: he was a spectacular guy, he was a wonderful builder, he was a spectacular person, he was a great negotiator, and i learned a lot. he gave me a loan and i said, and that, i want to go out to manhattan, and he said, no, no, no, stay in brooklyn. he is somebody that was very special. mark: what do you think he would save about you running right now? donald trump: i think he would say, amazing, go do it. he was a very tough cookie. when i worked for him, i did great stuff and i did great success, even when working for him. i brought it to a very high level and everything he touches turns to gold, and i said, this
is not a father who would normally say that, this was normally a very tough cookie. he was not easy. terrific guy.a he said that statement to me and i was inking that was probably the greatest conflict i have ever had. he said that everything i touches turns to gold. but this is a different kind of gold. get a building permit or to get a house built in brooklyn or in queens. person,at was the donald trump. let's take a quick break and when we come back, we will talk about his policy and head out on the rink. ♪
is the time that we would be saying sayonara. but no longer. now we are 60 minutes long. cbs news showable "60 minutes," but without that annoying ticking. we spoke with donald trump earlier this week in central park at the ice rink. john: central park's iconic ice is just as iconic as the rockefeller christmas tree and english reruns of "elf" on cable. 1950, itrink opened in boasted 300,000 skaters in the first year alone. but like much of gotham city in the decades that followed, the rink fell into disrepair. in 1980, it was shut down and
any project to repaired it stalled. the rink had yet to be open and there were no dollars in the budget. j. told -- enter donald trump. only 40 years old, trump set his sights on wollman. literally. looking down from his office, he could look down on the rink and was disgusted with the view. he took the project over from the city and he would have the rink opened by christmas. the city capitulated and trump delivered and it was nearly $1 million under budget. donald trump: i give commissioner henry stern tremendous credit for saying, "donald, go ahead and do it." i would be a lot better than
them if i didn't do it. >> there is the modest donald trump. [laughter] deserves and trump a norm us amount of credit -- an enormous oamount of credit. john: trump and outside the renovations as one of his biggest projects. your office is not that far from here and you looked down and you saw what an way -- and why did you decide to get involved in the project? donald trump: four years, i saw a mess. i saw a project that was under rink,uction, the wollman and for years it was under construction. back then, it was a slab of concrete, well, it was much more complicated than that, to tell au, but it was essentially
slab of concrete, so i call the mayor's office and nobody was ever working. they were on a lunch break all day long. it has been a great experiment, i said, you may want to continue this great experiment. mark: what was in it for you? donald trump: i just wanted to get it done. i had a young daughter at the time, still a youngest, if all anka, -- ivanka, and i would look down and see this ink from trump tower and then would pass it and i would look at it and i would see a lot of the men and know them and i would see a lot of the workers and they are great to me, "hello, mr. trump." that would tell me that nobody wanted them to work or read i saw ed koch, who was the mayor at the time, and i said "listen, i will do this job and i will get it done last." it was a huge in barrowman -- it
done fast." it was a huge embarrassment for the city and i went to ed koch and say, "let me do it and if i don't do it under $250,000, i will pay for it." you know, he0% -- was embarrassed by the whole situation, but i got it done in four months, but it is an example of what can be done through private enterprise. mark: is this a story of the ineffectiveness of the public sector or the effectiveness of the private sector or your capacity to get things done? donald trump: i do have a great capacity to get things done but it also has to do with the private sector. i don't know if anybody could have been my record. for example, the old post office under construction right now on pennsylvania avenue right between congress and the white house, boom! it is the most beautiful building and under budget and ahead of schedule. which is what it should be. we are going to open in 2017, probably in september, or
actually, 2060, which is very good timing for pennsylvania avenue because it shows that i get things done. developments a big in the bronx and that was a disaster, under construction for probably 30 years. nobody really knows when it started. but i got it done in one year and it is open now and it is very successful. mark: so people who say that trump has no government experience and you cannot possibly be president, this was a government problem. the city did not get these things built. so what is an example now that aren't getting done that you think that you could bring the same skills done as president? donald trump: i will give you one example. wars. wars are not getting done. if you look at isis, and we send 50 people over there, our 50 best, why would anybody say this? why would the president say we are sending 50 people?
those people are in great danger now that he has said that. either you win or you don't win, win or get out, but he sent the people over there and then he makes a public announcement to the world, 50 people. well, those men and women are now being hunted. they are looking for those men. why does he have to say that he is sending them out? do you know how dangerous that is? mark: your critics would say that you just compared tilling and ice skating rink to stopping wars. explain this. donald trump: it has to do with building things, it has to do with common sense, it has to do with knowledge. look, i wrote a book in 2000 seven, and i wrote about osama bin laden. he was a terrorist, he was well known, and i wrote a book. ,nd someone in congress said when did you write this book? and i said, it was before the world trade center went down, and i have a net for things and
i know what i am doing and this country is so far behind in every way in trade and in military. we are so far -- i watched the other day, one of our generals is leaving, and he said we are the least prepared that we ite ever been, and he said might have been since the second world war, but i think he effectively said ever. we can't have that. john: is the argument that you are making is that the skill set of the president of the united states is the same as the skill set of a ceo? donald trump: no. donald trump: -- john: so they are not the same? donald trump: no. john: what is the difference? donald trump: i will do a better job with the military, i will do a better job with jobs. john: but again, just what -- donald trump: see these buildings around us? i own numerous ones.
john: but there are skills that are required to be a successful ceo, and there are skills that are required to be a successful president, and they are different. how could you kate -- how are you going to change your game if you are president? donald trump: two bac a ceo, you have to be boom and get it done be,o be a ceo, you have to boom, and get it done. we have a lot of people in this country who are not making it, and they are in trouble. i always say i am a conservative at heart. heart,atives don't have you know, you hear about obamacare and people want to knock the hell out of obamacare, and they should be, because it is horrible. i actually said during a meeting, i said watch the premiums, the premiums are going through the roof, and it is not happening, and the premiums are going to collapse in 2017, and congress should have come up
with a much better plan. you need to have big, beautiful hearts. mark: often time people are asked about, are you ready for president? admitted he will say, there is no way you can ever be ready, you are only ready when you step into the job -- often many people will say, there is no way you can ever be ready, you are only ready when you step into the job. sayld trump: some people you should use freon, they should use brine, and i told the story about an engineer making ice in miami and i said immediately, why is an engineer taking an ice rink in miami. -- miami? they lost a fortune. what happened is i went to the montreal canadiens, a friend of mine at work for the montreal said,ens in canada, and i who can you get me to talk to about making ice? mark: again, are you ready to be
president from day one? no learning curve, just up in and do it? noald trump: look, obama had experience. i always say that tell it is better than experience. our president is a talented person and he should have never been in this position and he had no experience and it is not his thing. i mean, you have democrats, you have congressmen who have hardly ever seen him and hardly ever met him. he doesn't work the system, that is why he signs executive orders all the time. but when it came to the war. examples, we, two should have never been in iraq. in 2003, 2004, i said we should iser enter that, because it going to break up the middle east, and boy, has that happened. but then when obama came in, he left, and he should not have left the way he did. i immediately said, this is a
disaster. he announced on a specific day that we will be out on such and now he says, we are going to go back and take it easy for a while, and that is what happened. but even yesterday when he announced 50 of our great people who are going over to syria, 50, why does he have to announce it? everyone now is looking for those 50 people. i know it is politically -- i don't think it even came out politically good -- because what can 50 people do? but you have to be quiet. general patton didn't go and talk about, i am sending 50 men here and 200 men here. he did the job, he knocked them out. look, these were not talkers. i really mean this strongly, i think it was a horrible thing that he announced that 50 people are going over to syria. mark: thank you, mr. trump. we are going to be back with more news of the day, right
♪ mark: and now the stirring conclusion of the conversation with donald trump in central park in new york were he talks about his epic rise. mark: marco rubio is now a candidate on the rise and he actually compared youtuber barack obama at one point and he said, like barack obama, you are not dignified or worthy of the office you are seeking, he said like the president now, you have no class. what do you think of the comparison? on issues in leadership, what do you think of the comparison? donald trump: i think he is an overrated person, i don't think he is going to make it, in fact, i was watching this morning one of the morning shows and they were talking about marco rubio,
and he is nowhere near in the polls. i don't think personally he is going to make it. lightweight, and i would put i called him that, and i don't mean to be insulting, but i do describe people somewhat well. mark: you have been critical on immigration -- donald trump: there are other issues. he was a member of the gang of eight who wanted everyone to come in and take over our country. all of a sudden he went down in the polls and he has change what he said. he is totally driven about what the public thinks. bush got creamed in the debate, but he shouldn't -- if i had been the messenger, because the message is great, his delivery is poor. the message is great. marco doesn't show up to vote, he doesn't do things that he is supposed to do. he got elected senator and he had the same thing happened to
him and the florida senate if you look, and i know a lot about florida, i am there. you saw the poll that came out today were i am beating him and bush by a lot. i know florida better than they know florida. mark: that when you talk of him as a state legislator, when he was the speaker. donald trump: he tried to get the top position, or whatever, but my friend was with me, and they fought to get the top position and two minutes after he got the top position, he was running for senate and then he runs for senate and he wants to be president. i would say, and maybe i am the last person to say this, but relax. take it easy. i think he is a highly overrated person. i called him a lightweight. i think he is a lightweight. i hope i am wrong about that. we have -- i don't he has -- look, guys like you, and i am not specifically referring to you, but to be honest, you, a little bit, but i want somebody
on "morning joe" this morning who was talking about how handsome he is. i think i have better looking than him. that they keep talking about how he is so handsome and how he is so wonderful and joe goes, look where he is. he is way down here, so he is probably a nice person -- and another thing that i didn't like about him, he shouldn't have been more loyal to bush. i was told -- i don't know him at all -- i was told he would never run because bush was his mentor, bush really helped them, bush did things, well, i said, good. i am a very loyal person and i and an extremely loyal person, to a fault. i would rather have it this way than the other way. he was very, very disloyal to bush. i don't like that. john: what is it that you are looking for in a moderator or a set of moderators as we go forward? what are your criteria? donald trump: you know, john, i don't care that much honestly.
see nbc had the winning, did you see that? cnbc had me winning, did you see that? winning, and "gone with the wind" is three hours, but they had this debate that the room wasrs. probably 100 degrees, the one room was 100 degrees out, and all of these things are very important for you if you are in a debate. it is very unfair. now marco rubio is the youngest, but i have never seen any human like spell -- being sweat that. i thought the questions were very unfair, but my opinion is that they were very unfair from fox and they were unfair rum cnn and most of the unfairness was directed at me, so i am the one who should be complaining. senator ted cruz says
that only people who have voted in republican primaries should be moderators in the debate. do you think that is fair? donald trump: i don't really care, well, friendly, i am more of an economic person. say, weh is, we should should be like a basketball player. we should go on strike and say, we want money for wounded warriors, or we want money for a great charity, for veterans, i would love to give it. cnn made a fortune, an absolute fortune. cnn had a two our debate and nobody told anybody. they decided to make it three and only for one reason, because aey were getting $4000 for 32nd ad and then they got $250,000 and same thing for cnbc , they went from two hours to three hours. lied, he totally told a
lie, a dirty lie, if they did not tell us it was going to be a three-hour debate. those sirens, that is new york. mark: we are outside. donald trump: it is beautiful, but that is new york. so they lied about the debate. he lied big-league. within about three minutes, i got it down. it was one of the easiest negotiations of all time. they are going to have big audiences, so let that money go to charity. mark: thank you so much, we appreciate senior. donald trump: -- appreciate seeing you. donald trump: thank is so much. mark: and our thanks to donald trump and his giant block of ice. campaigncast and what it means for your morning commute. we will be right back. ♪
♪ mark: another busy out there tomorrow in electionland. let's go live to our forecast center and are chief meteorologist, alex. alex, how are you feeling today? well, i am feeling a little blue. a little bluegrass, take a look here, this could change from blue to red. we arelook in iowa, expecting a heavy clinton impact there, a heavy, heavy impact. meanwhile, on the east coast, we have some low energy on the move, jeb bush is going from south carolina in the morning to new hampshire in the evening. finally for our friends here in
new york city, marco will be sitting here at lunch line -- at lunchtime to break bread. and would you like an umbrella? on the bush campaign, we have got you covered. back to you. mark: thanks, alex. that was pretty good. [laughter] john: i love that guy. mark: when we come back, we have a homework assignment direct itics.com.bergpol ♪
and make sure to check us out on and readpolitics.com our politics tracker. wek: on tomorrow's program, are going to have more of my talk with ted cruz and the tax plan. that tax plan is getting a lot of attention. john: and you know who we might else have on the show tomorrow? stan greenberg. and a book coming out about the new america and the new politics. mark: yeah, lots of politics tomorrow, lots on the debates, and donald trump will be on "good morning america." until tomorrow, 60 minutes every night. sayonara. ♪ we live in a pick and choose world.
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