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just tooes, it is cold to do a good cold opening. candidatescover for here in new hampshire. in a moment, we will have hot and fresh poll numbers from the state. before we unpack that showcase showdown, it is time for bubba. bill clinton was back in new hampshire, stumping for hillary. blasting republicans for negative politics, and talking about eating dunkin' donuts. bill clinton: i know we are in a
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hard fight here, running against one of your neighbors. every presidential year, the american people are like a great composer. the words are always the same, they are rearranged like notes. and write a new melody, they decide they want to send it. you can give my remarks, but i hope you also give it the performance. because you did pretty well when i was president. the only time in 50 years where everybody grew together. my mother raised me, she said, bill, if you don't want anybody to know something, you'd probably should not do it. the republicans blame, different among candidates, muslims, mexicans, president obama. if he wasn indonesia, not born in africa. so it is his fault. or they blame hillary. they have a proven strategy that
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they have worked hard for more than a year to distract, divide, and demonize. leave nothing behind. in our party, there are two candidates invested in a hard-fought battle, which may have different approaches to try to tackle the same thing. mark: bill clinton is back in the finest form he has been in an quite some time. for hillary, not a moment too soon. the political community is still reeling from the poll that had bernie sanders over hillary 63-33. john, will this help stop the momentum? john: i have concern for him. he have this chip on his four head. my dad has that. i saw about half that event in concorde.
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he was calm, cool, collected. he talked about dunkin' donuts. i think the question always with him, he is one of the great artists and doing negative in a soft way. y. mark: he never named bernie sanders. he called him hillary's opponent. the downside to bill clinton, they need him now. because he can make the case very effectively. he tried out different arguments today. i think we will see him in iowa a lot, and it is good for hillary and her team, which needed some pushback and some sense they have a plan to stop the momentum. john: we talked about indiscriminate flailing, still a sense of that. but there is an all hands on deck quality to clinton world. no doubt we will see a lot of him. the people of year will see him an awful lot. this state was so close to his heart, he will want to win.
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john: he was rusty come shaking theff, looking more like bill clinton we know -- strong. there must be an equal and opposite dark side. slew, that consisted of a of attacks on bernie sanders. including claire mccaskill, who released an epithet that begins with a capital s. >> do you think a self-declared socialist good when this presidency? claire mccaskill: i think it would be absolutely impossible for a socialist to win in missouri. and you have to win states like missouri if you want to win the presidency. pennsylvania -- it is very hard, i think, for most americans to see how socialism would your the
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problems that we're facing right now. there is a lot of work we have to do. but we need to bring the country together, not nominate people that sit on the opposite ends of the spectrum. because people are angry and they want to blow everything up. john: that is claire mccaskill hitting from the center, calling him a socialist. sanders also got clobbered from wenteft, when a writer after him for opposing reparations for slavery. you, whichestion for of the various attacks which have been landed have a chance of working? mark: i think they are in danger of having surrogates do this. claire mccaskill sometimes goes beyond. this has to be done some extent by hillary clinton. until she is all in on calling him a socialist or unelectable or too i don't think the
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surrogates can do it for her. john: she got those people already. the people who support bernie sanders, they have worries about whether he can get some of the stuff done that he can. they're not thinking about electability. they think about. the. they fall on deaf years. mark: we are here at an event that chris christie is having. you will see people filtering incoming waiting for chris christie to come in a bit. i believe the campaign is still kind of testing out. claire mccaskill, though, even though she is going to be an imperfect surrogate, and helps the clintons emotionally and they see their people trying to push back. up until the last few days, i think they felt a little isolated -- that they had been the only ones. john: i think that is right. they have some very skilled surrogates. you made the point about claire mccaskill. they have a lot of people that you will see a lot of them out
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there. i do think this is an effective argument. bernie sanders cannot get done what he is promising. more so than anything about likability. mark: bill clinton made that point today. we cover the dark side, now it is time to talk about the empire striking back. that is bernie sanders. i did not get that metaphor. bernie sanders defended his socialist standards on csn bc. . he spoke to rachel maddow about competing for endorsements from planned parenthood and the human rights campaign, both of which have endorsed clinton. senator bernie sanders: we are very proud to have received recently the endorsement of we have received the endorsement of democracy for america.
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these are grassroots organizations, representing millions of workers. what we are doing in this camp paign, we are taking on not only wall street and the economic establishment, we are taking on the political establishment. i have friends and supporters of the human rights fund and, but hillary clinton has been around there for a very long time. some of these groups are in fact part of the establishment. mark: hillary responded to bernie? very controversial on twitter, she wrote "really, how can you say that groups like these are part of the establishment you are taking on?" how well is bernie sanders defending himself, now that the clinton machine is engaging him. john: not particularly well last night. to be fair, planned parenthood and the human rights campaign
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are part of the establishment. he is right. he doesn't want to call himself an opponent because they are extraordinarily popular. he is still working out -- he has to find the right, precise way to make these counterattacks. still grappling towards it. mark: the level of negative campaign inflicted upon him, i was surprised and impressed how well he was handling it. the heat is getting a lot harder . it will get higher. the next few days, can he elevate his game again? last nights answer, i found it provocative and interesting grade but as you suggested, not perfect pitch. john: i was up in burlington talking to bernie's strategists. he has been attacked, hit with negative as. he has been hit before. he knows how to fight back. you are a smart man, but he has done nothing in any race ever like the fury of the clintons
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unleashed. mark: john kasich made the same point. he is bent through ohio, but not the same. john: coming up. drill withll, baby, sarah palin on donald trump. and much more from new hampshire, including a new poll just out minutes ago, after this. ♪
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♪ john: we have numbers from a new cnn poll in new hampshire. here at the results. donald trump at the top, as always, at 34. ted cruz at 14%. jeb bush and marco rubio tied at third, and the rest of the candidates are living on single-digit boulevard.
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up here in new hampshire, the granite state, mark and i fanned out and hit an array of events with john kasich, marco rubio, and chris christie. we spent a lot of time in concord. on the basis of this day, what have you learned that you did not know before we arrived? mark: i saw john kasich, jeb bush, and they are both good. they are both doing very well, on message, comfortable. both as good as i have seen them all year. that is good news for trump, really, and to some extent, cruz. i know you saw christie, you thought he was good. as long as the establishment candidates are doing good, it creates gridlock. in the new poll, trump is up 2. -- hasek isn to 6 kasich is down to six.
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what you are seeing, they are so aware of the calendar. with the establishment candidates who we spent time with the day, iowa matters. but this matters more for all of them. less than three weeks ago, you can start to see they are excited. but again, john kasich and bush feeling pretty good. john: i saw three of those guys cannot jeb bush, but chris christie and rubio gave a speech before the new hampshire legislature. chris christie killed, compared to the other two. areperformance skills really, really good. he has the crowd laughing, really into his speech. the others did not connect as well. i saw a rubio early in the morning. of those four, marco rubio performed the weakest. he was not horrible, but he was not very strong. ted cruz in second place, something we have been saying
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for a while, he could shock everyone coming in second hearing this news not good for john kasich. mark: rubio has done fewer of events. there's something about being on the ground, talking to the voters, that may hurt them. i still believe, if you talk to the candidates, one campaign will dismiss two of the other three, saying they cannot possibly win. this is a jump ball. anybody could win. night, a free-form endorsement speech by sarah palin in support of donald trump in iowa. today, after jeb bush finished his speech in new hampshire, i asked him about palin. i admire her commitment to the, you know, disabled. forve her passion, her love family, the fact that she is actively involved. i love her pro-life stance.
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i was not expecting her endorsement. but if someone is looking for a committed conservative, consistently so was acted on their beliefs across the spectrum of policy, i am their guy. donald trump is not a conservative. that is laughable. i mean, really? sarah palin was supposed to campaign in iowa and oklahoma. she missed iowa. but in her remarks in oklahoma, she addressed the arrest of her son track. she said it was, in short, president obama's fault because he was dealing with ptsd. john, we saw the reaction on talk radio. we heard jeb bush. 24 hours or later, how is the palin endorsement playing? john: i thought it was an ok day for trump, really good for sarah palin. iowa has had not much impact on new hampshire.
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but we have raised it with people here, it has not resonated far outside of the country. i do think her performance last night, even conservatives come if you look at the reaction against republicans, they were sort of mocking her for what seemed to be a completely -- borderline unhinged performance. that was from the right. even her supporters were embarrassed. mark: even nationally, that poll showing sanders with the huge lead. just to be clear, no one thinks it is 30 points. but that took the edge off of palin-trump dominating the cycle. in iowa, this endorsement doesn't matter with a swor certain segment. glenn back will come out -- ck will support ted be cruz. it drew attention more towards
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her performance. john: coming up, we have four guests on the show. we will talk to them, when we come back. ♪
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♪ mark: our first guest loves hillary clinton as much as ted cruz loves sarah palin. he is the cochair of the super pac supporting hillary clinton. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. mark: i'm hearing from supporters back in brooklyn that bernie sanders has not been scrutinized enough. you agree? and if so, what do you think deserves more scrutiny?
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>> look, i think the normal course of any campaign lends itself to taking a look at the front runner, which has been hillary clinton. and as others begin to make a move, the media and others begin to look at their record. i think bernie is beginning to just see that sort of scrutiny of his record. but the reality is that the reason why hillary has been scrutinized much more than bernie sanders is because the the republicans spent over $5 million attacking clinton because they want bernie sanders in the general election next year. for me, the fundamental question is, who can get things done for everyday people struggling to make ends meet? in almost every measure, hillary clinton not only has the experience to do that, but she actually has a strong vision of where she wants to take the country, and the skills to do it. guy, do you want to point to any areas where the
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information voter should have? guy: the primary difference between hillary and bernie, i think it is telling of the mayor of flint, michigan decided to endorse hillary clinton, after she decided to get engaged and put staff on the ground. she made a strong, compelling argument for federal engagement, despite the governor. and while i think it is great that bernie called for the resignation of the governor, i don't think that is enough. andainly on guns middle-class taxes, i do not believe that these types of policy disagreements should be off the table. i think it is ok to discuss them. that is what democrats are all about -- open and honest debate. in recent days, the personal nature of some of senator sanders's attacks, despite the fact he calmest to campaign as a
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different candidate. john: what do you take issue with? guy: well, look, as couple of different things. he has questioned her motives around the speeches. when you look at the last couple of days, what i take issue with the onlythology people lined up behind hillary clinton are these establishment people that are separated from what is happening in the country. i do not think trayvon martin's mother is part of the establishment. i don't think hillary's director of latino engagement, who was a dreamer a few months ago, is now a part of the establishment. there are a lot of well-intentioned people with a view of the country that are strongly supporting hillary on the ground in many states. that is why she is leading today and 49 of 50 states in the country. john: the me ask you three questions real quick. do you really think it is a senator attack for
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sanders to point out the money from goldman sachs? guy: no, when it comes to motivation, it becomes a personal attack. john: is there anything about senator sanders,'s record or his stance on the issues, is or anything you know that disqualifies him from being the does commo nominee? guy: certainly not. there are two fundamental questions, who has the capacity to get things done? and who has the actual plan to make it happen> ? secondly, it was the most electable as we head into the fall? on both of those counts, we have hillary. sandersu think senator is qualified to be the nominee? guy: i have actually worked with senator sanders before. when i was the director, senator sanders was seeking the
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establishment support, when he and i traveled together to martha's vineyard to raise money for democratic candidates, i have respect for senator sanders. i just believe we have a fundamentally different view of where the country should head. and i think i have a different view of who can actually get it done. demean not in any way to senator sanders, who i think is a good person and has a vision for the country. mark: you are in touch with a lot of people in the clinton orbit these days. in 2008, when senator clinton was facing a comparable situation with barack obama, things got a little tense. what is the mood like an clinton world? our people confident or worried? guy: i do not coordinate with the campaign. in fact, i am jealous of people who are on the ground in new hampshire, where i spent a lot of time over the last few winters.
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but i think people understand this is going to be a competitive race. that the clinton campaign has a have that john and robbie laid out a compelling strategy to win. and at the end of the day, we are winning in 49 of 50 states with significant staff and a plan going forward into the late stage. so i do not get the sense that people are panicked. i think they have a plan to put in place, and they will evident that across the country. john: one more question about sanders. do you think it is problematic that senator sanders calls himself a democratic socialist, and if so, what is wrong with being a socialist? guy: i know this is a popular question. my issue is not with the fact he describes himself as a socialist. i describe myself as a democrat. on the issues that matter to me on middle-class taxes, gun safety, who can get things done for working people, i simply
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believe that hillary is better. other people can reach a different conclusion. but to get into whether or not a socialist can win, i think that is just one of several electability problems he faces. you do not have to ask me. i am happy to admit that i am not an unbiased purveyor of this. just ask the republicans. the communications director of the rnc was defending bernie sanders and attacking hillary clinton. the head of the largest super pac said this morning they were running advertisements against hillary, for the purposes of stopping her from winning the primary. mark: guy, we have to cut you off. coming up, up close and personal with bernie sanders. ♪
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♪ john: you can watch our new show on showtime sunday nights at 8 p.m., a partnership with
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bloomberg politics. we sat down with bernie sanders on his own turf in burlington, vermont. we only got to show you a bit of that conversation. we will show you the rest of it, right now. this is an incredibly hard thing to do. when you think about the period of time since when you started, what has been the most satisfying aspect from the thing you like least about this process? senator bernie sanders: what has been extraordinary is looking at 28,000e places people, a lot of people are working class people, who love this country and want to make real change. they want to see real change. that is incredibly moving. does and i can 1600 people out -- wonderful people, mostly working-class. we know there's something wrong in the country. we want change. honestly, what gets me nervous is, you know, people are asking
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a lot. and sometimes you get nervous, can you do -- can you deliver what people need and what people want? the last thing i want in the world to do is disappoint people. and i think i may have told you or other folks when i began this race, what was scary as for me was potentially most of setting was i did not want to take up the banner of progressive ideas and then go out and not do well. so people would say nobody really believes in medicare single-payer, nobody wants to $15. the middle wage to nobody wants to take on the billionaire class. those are french ideas. fringe ideas. i think we have overcome that idea. you're asking what is most difficult? i will tell you. i was in the house for 16 years, a representative in vermont for nine years.
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virtually every weekend, i would go home. i never, ever stay in washington, d.c. i go home to be with my wife, grandkids, i go everywhere in the state. i love vermont. and i have done more town meetings in vermont than any public official in the history of the state of vermont. we go out and we have 100 people in a small, tiny town. i love doing it. the truth is, for the last 8-9 months i have not been home very often. there is kind of emptiness there. there is something wrong -- something is missing, i'm supposed to be back in vermont. that is what i have been back doing for 25 years. i don't see my family as much. that is difficult. john: the other question about your decision to run, i know it is a joint decision. just tell me that decision. theers: if you run for
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president, especially given my politics, we knew it would be a lot of ugly things happening. and it will continue to happen the. one of the really sad state of affairs with regard to american politics is that people say you are running for president? you are crazy. why would you possibly want to do that? it is the question that jane asked. we have a great family, good life. i love being a u.s. senator. why do you want to run all over the country? why do you want -- every right-wing nut is going to be attacking you. id to be honest, the answer will tell you publicly and what i say privately, is i have seven grandchildren. four grandkids. my dad came to this country with nothing at 17, and i want to make sure i do everything to leave my kids and my grandchildren a country that is working well for them and for
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other people in this country. was that said that she she kept saying that you could start a nonprofit. you got to the point where you have decided that a, the presidency or running for it would be the best way to advance these ideas. you got to that before she did. right? sanders: we were having breakfast. a fella came up to us who was a veteran. he thanked me very much, i guess i have helped them out on some problem he had. and he urged me to run for president. so of course, wife starts crying, as is her want. and she says, ok, you have to do it. she saw that if somebody like this who put his life on the line for the country, and we help them, she wanted me to run for president. she saw in him, i think, a whole lot of other people.
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john: history will record that if you win the united states presidency, the decision was made in a booth at denny's. sanders: i would not say that is the whole thing. but jane was very ambivalent for a lot of sane reasons. i think that is a moment that turned her around, having her support go forward made it possible for me. been veryhave critical in recent days of donald trump. the first are talking about your presidential race, you would say i don't want this to be about politics of personal destruction. i will not attack hillary personally. i will stick to the issues. we would try to date you into -- baiot you into attacking hillary clinton. sanders: you are not the only one. and i will tell you why.
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point, thate only donald trump is what we the nominee. you don't hear me attacking ted cruz who is a very conservative guy. marco rubio, the other guys. i'm attacking him because i consider him to be a very dangerous human being, who is doing enormous harm to this country. this is not just a political thing. you know, he is trying to divide us up, opening the door to the kind of bigotry and racism that i thought we had closed years ago. and i have to say, you are right, i do not like to make personal attacks. i have never run a negative ad in my life. i believe he is a pathological liar. every politician in the world coming to myself, we stretch things. guyake things -- but this tells the american people, i saw on television, thousands of muslim people celebrating the
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he disruption of the twin towers. it was never on tv. and he goes around saying it. and you cannot allow people to live in that blatant away. and he goes on and on and on. and i have to call them out. john: let me ask you about trump. one of the things that is undeniably true, 2015 -- in our presidential politics -- was the year for outsiders. are you cognizant that there are people out there sitting in saying, either bernie sanders or donald trump. i don't know. sanders: we talked to some guy who was a republican leader who said look, a lot of my friends are supporting trump. i'm supporting you. the difference between trump and myself is that he is a critic it asguess he defines
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political correctness, which means he feels free to call people from mexico rapist, criminal, drug dealer. he makes outrageously dishonest statements about muslims celebrating on a rooftop. thatels free to say climate change is a hoax created by the chinese. that was a new one. i have not heard that one before. you know, people respond to that outside the box, to be sure. but the fundamental difference between him and me is that i do not go around talking about my opponents sweating too much, or not being attractive, or whatever the dumb things he says. what we are trying to do are saying these are the problems, this is the cause, this is where we think we can solve the problems. is a very different approach. what a lot of the media and
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establishment folks, they make a lot of money in the cocktail parties -- john: not having pancakes at denny's. sanders: people in this country are hurting and they are angry. and i know it bores some of the media when i talk about how the making 70% worker is less than he did, despite the explosion of technology. they are angry, and they have a reason to be angry. say,we are trying to do is if you are angry, let us get angry at the right people. not get angry at latinos are muslims, get angry at the people who caused the problems. i think a lot of people in the establishment and the media, in congress, do not understand the anger. as i said to you, i have done
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hundreds of town meetings in vermont. i go out and talk to people all the time. i sense the anger. john: last question. i know you miss your grandkids, right? you are not spending enough time in vermont or with your grandkids. sanders: you fall for it every time. john: every time. sundays atowtime on 8 p.m., partnership with bloomberg politics. we will be right back about a story with a guy spending millions to get ted cruz elected, after this. ♪
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john: there is that old saying that behind every candidate, there is a million dollars super pac. in the case of ted cruz, one of the guys is named robert mercer. we have a new story on our website about mr. mercer. it is full of biographical secrets, and anecdotes, and we thought it would be a lot easier to let zach tell you about the story. the man who is spending millions of dollars to get ted cruz elected. zach: robert mercer is a computer programmer and also helps run one of the largest and most secretive hedge funds in the country -- renaissance technologies. since 2010, he has given more than $32 million to support conservative candidates for offices, and putting $11 million for a group supporting ted cruz.
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he is the biggest single donor in the current race. he is very rich. he has an extravagant mansion in long island call the owls nest. which had a, medical room, where an emergency could be handled by a doctor on shore. he has given millions of dollars to the heritage foundation, or he is also given to things you might not have heard about. he is given money to a three-time congressional candidate from southern oregon. robinson has a research lab on a sheep ranch, where he is collecting thousands of samples of human urine which he will use to revolutionize diagnostic medicine and extend the human lifespan. he is attended conferences, which is a forum where there is --
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and then there is his conference in wyoming last august that advocated for a return to the gold standard. which brings us to ted cruz. when he put down $11 million last april, and looked like a long shot. cruz was nowhere to the top of the polls. it is hard to find out how much hisas been influenced by supporter, he has brought back the gold standard. we have enjoyed lower inflation than we have had with the fed now, and we need to get back to sound money, which helps in particular, working men and women. thanks to zach. you can read a story right now on bloomberg and we will be back with a
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reporter from time magazine, next. ♪
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♪ john: when we sat down with time magazine's correspondent, he had a broad information on the way women work. what is the difference between hillary clinton and 28, and her campaign today? >> i think she is also running very differently. last time around, she really ran as a man. very frankly, all of her advisers thought she had to prove she was tough enough to be commander-in-chief. that she was not going to be so emotional, that she could have her finger on the button at that time of the month and she was
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not going to start crying at the drop of a hat. this is the same test that any woman running for executive office have to go through. is a tough test that most men do not have to face. it is a hard needle to thread. word.nnot become the b you have to be likable enough that people want to have a beer with you. it is really striking this time around. polls show that she is ready and capable, and people do not think she needs to prove her toughness this time around. she is running quite nakedly as a woman. arguably, she is the first woman to run as a woman for president. most of her audiences are female. there is not an event that goes by where she does not talk about equal pay, childcare, being a grandmother. she is not talking about campaigning with generals and talking about the military so much from all that he does mention these things, but she is very softer in her appearance. she is unabashed in her appeal.
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becauseculiar to her, she has been secretary of state? blazer, and ifil another woman ran, she would be up to follow through that half -- not have to emphasize national security as much? >> if you look at executives in any state from the same thing applies to governors and mayors when have to have national guard divisions or police forces. they have to prove their first race. but after their second, it is the same thing -- they are considered experienced enough religion have to prove toughness. any woman running after hillary, which i think you see with carly fiorina, she had to prove she was tough enough. you will notice that as she has gotten name recognition and more more,re proven her chops she has tried to appeal to
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women. she has become more feminine. in the last debate before this past one, her statement was all about porting the female vote. that was the first time she made that pitch. until that, she was running more as a man. mark: there is no doubt that women in congress have made great strides. where do we stand now in terms of women in congress, as compared to years ago. house, than 20% in the about 19.4% in the house. this is the highest number we have never seen. it is the largest number of women in the history of the institution. not so much this session, the 113th, you really felt their influence. they shared more than half of the committees, and ended up producing more than 75% of the major legislation that passed.
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they really batted above their weight. you can see for the first time the difference women made. mark: one thing you read about in the book, it is not a coincidence that that occurred at the 20% threshold. >> it turns out, the impetus for the book, i was covering the senate when the government shutdown. when they got together to reopen, when none of the men would talk to each other, the women of the senate were all writing their own books. they did not mean one from me. but it was a first time there were 20% women, and it was so clear the exercise a huge amount of power. as are looking at other areas like corporate boards. when they look at 30%, they really have to make change. there is a huge body of research out there that shows whether it is the legislature or an appellate court, police force, women reach this critical mass between 20-30%.
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really change the flavor, the way we do things. mark: where is america on female influence in government? >> not so great. more like 60 other countries have female heads of state. the rank somewhere around 75th. mark: why do you think that is? >> parliamentary systems are much more different than direct democracy. if we had a parliamentary system, nancy pelosi would have been elected by her party. mark: fundraising has always been a huge issue. there is a cultural thing about maybe women are not as aggressive about asking for money. where was the women in the senate stand as fundraisers, compared to the male counterparts? >> they actually do as well, if not better, than a counterparts. nancy pelosi is number one fundraiser, she is raise more money than the senate and house.
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we really to the problem is freshman women in a house, just entering politics would have a much harder time battling for dollars. i was talking to elizabeth warren for the book. she talks about how hard it is. women are really good about raising money for causes, things outside of themselves, they're really bad at advocating for themselves. invest in me. that is what they have to do when they are dialing for dollars. thanks to her. her book is called "broad influence: how women are changing the way america works." we will be right back. ♪
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♪\ john: it's christie is almost here grade which means the day
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is almost over. who won? mark: the fact that the establishment candidates are doing well in new hampshire, means that trouble do well here. john: i say ted cruz. if he can finish second here, after finishing first in iowa, he can turn this into a two-mean race. don't forget, if you're watching us in washington, d.c., you can also listen to us on the radio at 99.1 fm. thank you for watching. mark: we will be back here tomorrow with an interview with john kasich we will have more tricks up our sleeve. ♪
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>> it's thursday, the 21st of january. business."ending we are watching the more optimistic day across asia. stocks rebounding, japan has declined from its lowest level in more than he year. , hoping to ease the lunar newead of the year.
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timing is everything. project is ready to come on stream just as energy prices go through the floor. a mixed bag at the moment, a bit of weakness for china once more. it does seem that we have china not getting the note. >> shanghai's office earlier low, still down by .7%. hong kong stocks trading up by 1.1%. perhaps not surprising when you look at the technicals as of yesterday, 60% of hong kong


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