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anna: china's come back, exports jumped the most in the year, ahead of friday's gdp figures. stock markets rally on the news. crude retreating from the highest level in four months, as russia says an output can be achieved in dohar. and brexit could cause severe damage to the world economy, as david cameron gets the backing from some of britain's biggest communal traders.
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manus: i am manus cranny. anna: anna edwards. just past 6:00 here in london. let us get straight to the correlation between oil. we talked about it many times, reaching new levels we have not seen since 2013. manus: just in the morning, 120-day relationship between the stocks and wti. and this all comes on the back of russia, starting to get ready for potentially agreeing, as we take the road to go. this morning overall, you think about the real drivers in the fed, but is it oil price? : with plenty of rhetoric from the russian side surrounding what can be achieved, even if we do not have the cooperation of the iranians, just to keep track of the price right now, that is something
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that drove the price higher yesterday. cents, reporting an agreement between the russians and saudi's, it could be done. and we have this other commentary from the kremlin press secretary, and the saudi's building something. what exactly do we do not know yet. manus: depends on what we get. as far as the market, up 30% since the original freeze back in february. let us translate this, currency and equities all moving through the markets. top of the pops, the shanghai composite. oil is taking a breaak. and it was energy companies driving the rally. anna: export numbers out of china key, the aussie doll picking up on the export dollar, up by 2/10 of 1%.
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intervention is futile, weakening the limits. we have a representative from goldman later in the show. being spent on intervention thus far, as we go to g-20 though, what are the new rules of engagement in fx wars? anna: let us get the bloomberg first word news. joining us from hong kong. >> good morning. the brazilian vice president says he will form a transitional government, as dilma rousseff sharpens acquisitions. with a crucial impeachment vote looming on sunday, he plans to spend early political capital. that is according to an aide involved in drafting the strategy. some of britain's biggest continental trading partners
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journalists in 150 bureaus around the world. more on top if you are indeed a terminal user. back to you. manus: thank you very much. let us check out how the markets are reacting. juliet sally is standing by. we have the chinese stock story building relief. juliette: absolutely relief. good morning to you. look at this picture in asia today. we are seeing widespread buying coming through, really led by producers.and raw commodity prices but also better than expected export number coming throughout china today. also missing sentiment. and most of the currencies across the region of the japanese yen reporting the nikkei 225. and in china, coming out of the lunch break from the shanghai composite holding on to the
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early session gains come up by 2.2%. this is actually a three-month high for the shanghai composite. you see they had the daily limit. grapevine coming through in australia on the back of the rally, in the commodity players. we do have markets in korea and also thailand closed today. but they are seeing solid gains here in hong kong, you see that is only one out of the 50 stocks on the hang seng index in negative territory. reallyl producers driving the gains. the original benchmark index, every sector higher. it is the highest level in three months. this is a sixth session of gain from the longest winning streak we have seen on this index since october of last year. basic materials and oil and gas, as i was saying, really above the major winners. having a look at some of the other movers we are looking at. the metal group of australia up i 8% in late trade.
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fourth-quarter output being point 8ion of 41 million tons, and the index in japan another one of those solid oil producer movements that we've seen across the region today. anna: thank you very much. exportget to china's story come at the top of the show, news that exports rebounded to rise by 11.5% in march. compared to the 25% slump in february. our beijing chief joins us. nick, the numbers look pretty positive them. is this a case of the chinese economy recovering better than anticipated or something else going on? couple think there are a of things happening here. one is that in the early months of the year, it is very difficult to read this data because of seasonal issues. whichinese lunar holiday, varies from year to year, really throws a wrench in the works. you mentioned last month's number was down so much, that is
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really impart because of seasonal affects connected to the nadir. punitiveok at numbers and we saw that exports are down 4%. the looking at sentiment, we saw the data consistently beating forecasts from economists. that marks a change from last year, when we saw it was constantly surprising the downside. bad news, worse than people expected. so sentiment does seem to be changing, it does seem like the data coming in these days is better than expected. better news for the chinese economy heading into the year. manus: let us talk about what comes next in terms of stimulus. you get this basic moderation of the numbers. is this the opportune time for the bank to go with more reserve cuts, to perhaps consider some
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fiscal latitude or push for them? nick: i think sure. in terms of seeing sentiment and in our read of what the government is doing, they do seem to be looking -- anna: looks like we have a problem with our line today. nick wadhams, our beijing bureau chief. that leads to our next-door a. manus: it does indeed. for the world's second-largest economy. that was yesterday. a warning same time, of prolonged global growth slowing. anna: the chief economist spoke saidoomberg's david gura, he is supporting negative rates. negativenow, we see rates supporting aggregate.demand supporting expectations of
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deflation at bay. so for us, that is a big positive. manus: he also told bloomberg of the u.s. federal reserve was decisionmaking this on a data dependency basis. yesterday, the fed president echoed janet yellen's call for a slower approach. but it was richmond who argued in favor of a tightening. >> my own view is that the medium-term u.s. outlook is not change materially since december. if anything, inflation seems to be turning to our 2% goal some much more rapidly than we anticipated. as result my sense is that the less leisure leap, was still gradual rates they submitted at year-end, strikes me as more likely to be appropriate. anna: let's bring our first guest of the morning, patrick armstrong, managing partner.
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joins us on set this morning. good morning to you. let us start with the big picture. the imf downgrading the global outlook, many bad news stories ahead of all of these washington spring meetings. how much of what they said chimes with your view? patrick: they have lowered the forecast by the u.k., below 2%. the eurozone at 1.5%. aey upgraded china, a bit of surprise to some. that is where we are right now, growth with sub 3% globally. right around that level, 2% in the developed world. it is not spectacular but it is a half-full depending on your view. online with historical averages. manus: glass half full. fairly good form. and because i see news coming from russia, our chart that anna and i chose this morning is the 120-day correlation between wti
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and msci equity. owned, this under relationship matters. do you believe in this relationship and where are we in the oil story? patrick: if oil prices are plummeting, i think some people are taking the narrative that oil prices are weaker because economic growth is so slow. i do not agree with that. world oil demand is 95 million barrels a day. supply is 97 million barrels a day. the outlook on economic growth, it is more production than demand. and when it does get rid of the tail risk, any spike even after worry about contagion and effects reading a financial crisis. we are seeing the stronger oil prices getting rid of them, some economic impact getting rid of those tail risks. anna: it is interesting correlation, for many when we started to see the oil price fall, a lot of people said this is going to be a boost to the
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consumer. some panetta that is positive for western markets. that is not turned out to be such a correlation. patrick: the u.s. savings rate is high, and for the first time in years, when they get the tax cut or lower price, they have spent that. they eventually say that, so you do not have the immediate impact. manus: economists are relying on we did before. it has never been a shock. there is nobody alive trading, buying that has lived through the great depression. patrick: that is a good point, i suppose. maybe people are preparing for the next depression. manus: i have been banging this drum for quite some time. the psychology has completely changed in terms of how we react. patrick: consumption will come through. there is been a delayed effect. but if you will get more money in the savings accounts, that will come through. i don't think we are in a structurally higher savings
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environment. anna: we will eventually move on from the crisis. has saidse premier recently that there is a lot of improvement in economic indicators in the first quarter. and the imf actually upgraded the forecast for china. a lot of the nervousness in markets, certainly in autumn of last year and spring of this --r, seem to come through starting with concerns about the chinese growth story. does this harold something more positive? patrick: china is not to be getting well what they're doing. that is greater a lot of problems, when they devalue the currency in august, that symbols a hard landing read that was not the case, it is not communicat ed. we have come around the corner march manufacturing is up showing expansion. the signs of china being a hard landing of think numeral them out now. it is not on a real sustained, robust growth, we have
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difficulty getting rid of overcapacity. what i think the contagion risks about a knock on the western world, you can roll those out at this point. in terms of $3 trillion worth of reserves. manus: the finance ministers speaking at one of the main italian newspapers talking about the bank, i misspoke there completely. the helping hand or the backstop of the bank, the rescue funds sees ity -- the ecb favorably. there is no risk of any bank fund by the eu or the ecb, possible. momentsone of the big in the european story. best people are concerned about the systemic risk from italy. naturally, mario draghi is going to be favorable of his own country. is this a significant move for italy? patrick: it is almost
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immaterial, the size versus the bad loans in the banks. that is the ratio, exactly. difficult to say it is huge. but it might create a positive view that at least they are doing something, anything is a positive. the ecb has a lot of policies in place now. they are very favorable to banks, not necessarily on earnings but on capitalization, where they can borrow less than zero. that is what people should get the confidence in the banks, not from the new italian measure. anna: we returned to the banking theme through the day. and it features on our radar for what is happening later on today. manus: we will get the annual biggestfor the 12-month loss they ever posted. at the same time, sweden is going to release its revised budget for the year. anna: at 10:00 u.k. time, eurozone industrial production. and the bank story, jpmorgan
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kicking off earnings season for the big wall street banks. we will have a preview of what to expect for the banking sector. just how bad will this round of bank earnings be? we will look ahead/ . ♪
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anna: welcome back. hongng at a live shot of kong early afternoon in that part of the world. the hang seng up by 2.5%, boosting many equity markets in china. it is 6:20 in london. let us talk banks. manus: jpmorgan will be the first wall street bank to reveal the impact of the turmoil, announcing first-quarter earnings. expecting 25% drop in investment banking revenue. u.k. finance, michael moore joins us to discuss earnings season.
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very good to see you. set to be a pretty dismal quarter. i am not sure that is the work, i gadfly piece that is a deathointing, dreadful words you can apply. lot of: there is a things working against the banks right now. you know, not just the market turmoil that we have seen both in the trading and investment banking side. but also you have the energy issues. you know, banks have added to the reserves for those energy loans over the last year. and a lot of analysts expect that to continue in the first quarter. you had interest rates, the yield-curve kind of flattening. that may have put pressure as well. and you have markets being down. wealth andpacts asset management businesses as well. so there is a lot of headwind for the banks this quarter. manus: there is also a
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credibility of strategy in terms of pressure, some shocking news from credit suisse, not aware of the risk that has been heaped on the bank. just trying to convince the market he has a hand on it. and you have the about-face at deutsche bank, real pressure. what story are they going to want us to focus on? michael: focus on what they can control, typically the cost. showing that cost down. even if the healthier banks, like a jpmorgan, there is a lot of pressure to show some progress on cost because there are 70 things they cannot control right now. the banks are under pressure even before the market volatility, because there are these existential questions of, can they boost returns in this environment? get back to a normal operating environment? and then you have volatility on top of that, really adding
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another layer. anna: patrick, when you look at the banking sector, the headwinds and the outlook for the first quarter, fallen by about half year on year. bond issue are down. mergers at 80%. this was not a quarter filled with a lot of confidence in those areas. patrick: with negative interest rates compounding all those things, a very difficult environment to make profit. you cannot maintain a previous levels. investment banks, everything there, that has been a particularly tough quarter for them. a lot of the investment heavy banks are really suffering. manus: we have a great piece on the terminal this morning, pimco wells capital says to get ready. we have a graphic for you, the return on bank bonds. 2015, let us check it out there in the return was on the bank bonds, probability is what to be a pressure. but this could be, this could be
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the one trade that sort of comes through, according to wells capital. along with pimco, they are buying notes issued. when it comes to equity and debt, where would you prefer to be positioned? buying: we have been debt from deutsche bank to we think the european banks are much better capitalized than they were in 2008, but the imminent financial crisis is not really there. the economic outlook is reasonable. we think the earnings environment is difficult, but we see steady deposit growth below levels. they have a higher equity cushion, and they have the next four years, all of that should make a default on a bank a very, very low risk of it. where you are getting a percent yields on some of european banks right now on the debt. anna: interesting to compare the equity versus the debt. you both mentioned the interest rate environment, how tough that has been making things for the
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banking sector. michael, anything brighter on the horizon, given at the start of the quarter, maybe not talk about interest rates in the quarter as much as we are now. but depending on which week we are in, whether the wind is blowing in a dovish or hawk fashion, where does the curve take us into the future? any brightness in bank, looking ahead to say things are going to get easier? michael: i think that is what analysts are hoping for, some commentary going forward. certainly, with negative interest rates in europe, ahead when looking like we were on a somewhat better path in the u.s.. perhaps that is going to be delayed. but back to your point on the bonds, everything regulars have done recently has served to limit the downside and limit the upside. and that would seem to benefit a bondholder more than a shareholder. manus: the whole value destruction in the first quarter
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was about negative rates. we have headlines coming across the bloomberg, anna, in terms of the japanese side of the equation. cannot say that there are no side effects of negative rates. course board members of this is the debate. this destruction in terms of return on equity and delay impossibility. that was the message that came through from the ceos that i spoke to. michael: the earnings outlook -- you cannot expect earnings to be bound with negative interest rates. we have a big rebound, do not expect investment banking to turn a corner quickly. i think the way to play them, if you have to, allow european banks to trade at tangible book value street and short canadian banks. much more extensive, have all of the risks of oil and metals and mining. anna: patrick stays with us. michael moore with the latest on the banking story. manus: up next, a jarring cut for japan.
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f is the outlook for the third-largest economy. we have a chat with goldman sachs' chief economist for the region. ♪
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sharpens accusations that he is the mastermind of the crucial impeachment vote. looming on sunday, he plans to spend early clinical capital on reforms that will stem the worst recession in modern history. that is according to an aide involved in drafting the strategy. business groups from some of the biggest constitutional trading partners voiced support for david cameron's head to stay inside the european union. the prime minister will need to employ groups from germany, spain, and the netherlands, and heads of businesses, including the likes of siemens and l'oreal. driverless cars could be targets for hackers and hostile nations. that is according to a top u.s. justice department official. says the automotive industry must ensure the vehicles are built inside a protection. expansion isoning inspected to be valued at about $42 billion by 2025.
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global news 24 hours a day powered by 2400 journalists located in some 150 bureaus around the world. back to you in london. anna: thank you very much. let us check with the market is doing. nejra has it. wti to the highest level in four months after reports that saudi arabia and russia had reached a consensus on output freeze. u.s. crude settled above the 200-day moving average for the first time since july 2014, closing at $42 a barrel. $42,, back below that retreating ahead of u.s. government supplied data. looking like it is still holding to that average. even though we are seeing oil
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retreated a, it is still driving gains in asia. if you look at the asia-pacific index, it is energy shares leading the rally. back on the longest winning streak since october 2015, at a three-month high. we see japanese stocks rise, chinese stocks also within a three-month high after data showed of course that the exports jumped the most in a year, beating estimates. now also that data has been driving the aussie dollar higher, falling back a bit now. but it was climbing towards a nine-month high, rising along with the new zealand dollar. both of those countries to count china as their biggest trading partner. weakening, and the story is the 17-month high. he isllar this week, saying that the currency will hit 100 by year end. but intervention is in a minority, because the median is for the yen to infect weaken to
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118 for dollar by year end. here is interesting fact for you. if you look at the function, you can see that according to a bloomberg measure of purchasing power parity based on an super recent rate is's still undervalued, undervalued in fact by about 22%. anna, manus? manus: with tesco reporting in 30 minutes, we have a chart of the hour. guy: i pinched this from charles allen, to be honest. manus: naughty, naughty. guy: this is a chart that kind of -- one is half of an hour away from tesco. the other is the inflation thing that i'm hearing more about. this chart is u.k. fresh food inflation, the white line. two, kindue line, the
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of an inflation gauge. the u.k. market of inflation, it is a big part of it -- manus: 2%. guy: the yellow line is sterling. and as a result of which, this is an important metric. basically as you can see, they are fairly correlated over the last year. this is i think five years. and you see the correlation. but as you can see, we have broken the correlation over the last -- beginning since 2016. the question is, does this start to record late? does inflation go higher? as we start to import more of our food, grow less of it here. back to be an inflationary push later this year. becausegood for tesco, negative inflation is bad for tesco. you want inflation to come back into the system, and that means
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they have more pricing power. as result of which, that can be a positive impact later on this year. somebody to look forward and extrapolate to. manus: we have charles coming in. no, not at all. we have another target. that i'm sort of horrified. i go to all shopping. guy: really? anna: not located near your house. guy johnson will be back in just under an hour. the imf has cut japan in half, seeing the economy shrinking in 2017 because of the stronger yen and increase in sales tax. tokyo isining us from kathy matsui, chief strategist at goldman sachs. great to see you again. last time we got together we talked about womenonimcs.
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people are really suspicious of this. messagewhat mr. abe's was. it seems to be faltering. are you still a buyer? so, i think it depends on the definition for each individual. in my book, it is about sustainable growth, sustainable inflation. and while we have some success and some progress on both fronts in the first three years, and a bit on the abenomics agenda, things suggest we are presently stalling. you saw the imf projections, pretty much in line with what we are seeing. it is clear the pressure is on to come up with additional measures to stimulate and sustain the economy on its growth path. and reach higher inflation. anna: kathy, i read a story on the bloomberg terminal this
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morning that suggested tokyo is what fiscal study list might look like on the japanese. any suggestions as to what we might hear? kathy: correct. clearly, there is a lot of discussion right now. both on the monetary and fiscal fronts, and as you rightly point out, the government is scribbling to come up with measures that will stimulate economic growth, stimulate domestic demand in particular. there are numbers ranging from 5 trillion to 10 trillion, more than double the size of the last fiscal package that japan in limited. there is a lot of discussion planabout the second hike, for next year. whether to go through with it or whether to postpone it. but not only will he get some more fiscal stimulus coming through the pipeline, the most likely depend will decide to delay that second tax hike. which is probably going to be welcomed, at least by the stock
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market. manus: kathy can we have a great story. the big market focus has been on the yen, the appreciation. almost virtually ignoring negative rates. in terms of the currency position, is supposed to that end, the speculation is about intervention. the you think it would have any impact? on the run up to the g-20, it looks like the door is closing. do you agree? and what should they do? is intervention futile? well, personally i think be very difficult to conduct for japan. lateral intervention in the fx market is obviously so much depending on factors the on their control. i think the monetary side with the bank of japan may augment what they are currently doing. may cut interest rates even further. possible timing of april and june, and it may also augment
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their asset purchase program, particularly in the purchase but in terms of out right intervention, that is politically very difficult in the current environment, and as you point out the question is will it actually work? is twoend of the day, fx sides of one point. if you push on one side and the fundamentals on the other side are not in the same direction, those efforts could end up being futile. i think that is a pretty long stretch to imagine they could go as far as doing that. having said that, the world is an uncertain place. and we need to see what transpires. you know that japan is hosting the g-20 in a few weeks of the end of may. that is another reason politically it will be very challenging for japan the kind of go down that path. instead, like i mentioned the money will probably push on both ae fiscal and monetary levers little bit harder to get the numbers improving. at the same time, it was not
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just about cyclical demand. it is about structural reform, demographic change, corporate governments. that kathy, you mentioned the rates could go lower from the boj in the short to medium term. it sounds like, just how low can they go? kathy: it is hard to say. but clearly, governor kuroda has been referencing the examples you see in europe. our call right now as they can go from -0.1 to -0.3. i think going much further beyond that is probably rather tricky, given the implications obviously for the financial system here. but in terms of the messaging that we need to do more, to try to strive for our inflation targets, so the campaign will continue for the foreseeable future. metas: kathy, one of the most well-known pieces that you write
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about is womenomics. 66% of theour notes, japanese female population is now working. that tops the united states. my question to you, help us understand the quality of that 66%/ do, ift more should abe you have a sitdown meeting of a what is he have to do to make higher-quality 66%? kathy: a couple of things. number one, the composition of those jobs that women have been taking up more recently are mainly part-time or temporary jobs. so really, improve the quality of what they are doing. he needs to limit rules that really enforce equal pay for equal work. and there are discussions on that front, but they need to move along faster. number two, exactly eight or nine days ago to panic and lamented a law whereby you have more than 300 employees you have to disclose gender diversity
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targets and action plans to meet those goals. and i think the beginning steps for all of these changes are transparency and disclosure. and i think if you are not able to come up with ambitious targets, it will be very difficult to recruit in this very labor-shortage and played market we're in. still obviously a lot more work to do. we are getting the numbers up at the mass level. the competition of the jobs need to improve. more importantly, we need more diverse presentation and leadership making positions. but let us start with the hopefullye, moving the needle further along. manus: thank you very much, kathy matsui from tokyo. anna: up next, return the topic of tesco, set to announce annual earnings a year on from the biggest loss. optimistic this time around? ind out why.
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anna: welcome back. 6:46 in london. 1:46 in new york. that is where we find the bloomberg business flash. j: yes, take a look at 5% of the jobs in the asia-pacific wealth management unit. refocusing staff on serving clients with higher investment threshold. that is according to a person familiar with all this. jobs this week0 expected to be involved. mostly relationship managers based in hong kong and singapore. the bank did announce first-quarter earnings this morning. that is at 11:45 u.k. time. deutsche bank's derivative business follows a slump in that unit sales, according to people who know about it. co-ce is tryingp
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-ceo is trying to reduce the reliance on trading debt. pressure from bondholders to file the delayed financials. the partners and notify the company that they plan to issue a notice of default against them. result int will not the deceleration of any indebtedness. the company reiterated that it is on schedule to file on a per for april 29. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg outlined a 10 year plan for the company at the end will develop er conference. intelligence bots will do everything from sports updates to car service. people interacting with virtual places and objects, instead of actually buying them or traveling in real life. >> one of the things we think about, as physical objects today like a tv for displaying an image, there will actually be
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one dollar apps in the app store. so, it is going to take a long time to make this work. but this is the vision, and this is what we are trying to get to the next 10 years. >> and that is your bloomberg business flash. anna and manus? publishesco is due to their full-year results in about 10 minutes, and the company has been focusing on sales recovery over profits. what can we expect? anna: trolls allen, retail iselligence, tesco a difficult period, charles. why are analysts so optimistic this time around? charles: sales and u.k. as stabilized. we see volume growth for about 12 months, and we had a sales growth over christmas, we expect that to continue for the whole
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and into the following financial year. myselfanna, guy, and pitched one of your nice charts. talking about food deflation and a rising euro-sterling. this is good news contextually for the euro-sterling trade in terms of where we buy our food and food ingredients from europe. this could set up a nice little boost for mr. lewis going in the back half. charles: i think the deflation -- part of it has been their own fault because they had to bring prices down to match aldi. the part of it has been the strength of sterling, reducing prices particularly fresh prices. and with the changing exchange rate, we could see people starting to buy food from spain again. and prices are to go up again. which makes things a bit easier for supermarkets. anna: let us pause to talk about what is happening in the oil
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space. we have interesting commentary coming through here. representative from the iranian oil ministry will not attend the talks today at doha. set to take place on sunday, but that is follows of the wesley by the representative to attend the talks. reading the oil prices, why we iran will not be entirely absent. manus: levy me just pull of this. i prepared this earlier. this is about the society in russia, coming together. restricting at about $42 a barrel, this is the iranian production chart. the most since 2012, the issue, what level do you set the freeze potentially at? january of february levels? most of opec is producing at
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maximum capacity. that is deadly a shifting price of oil. on the bottom of the screen, 1.4%. before the news broke. anna: that is where we are on wti. charles allen, retail analyst at bloomberg intelligence. of severe warning damage to the world economy, if britain leaves the european union. told reporters in washington that a vote to leave the eu would pose a major challenge. maurice: it is obvious that there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment about what will happen in june, that it is weighing on confidence and investment in the u.k. a brexit vote would lead to a two-year process of renegotiation, in which it seems unlikely that we cannot presuppose what happenes but
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's access to the eu would not change. as with a big effect on the u.k., on the european partners. in fact, on countries more globally, who are more integrated into the current set of arrangements. meanwhile, david cameron will meet employer groups from the u.k., germany, france, spain, and the netherlands. as well as the heads of businesses, including siemens and l'oreal. manus glynis bring patrick back into the conversation. the daily dose of brexit. yesterday, i had a conversation with the gas. takeed him, how would you the risk without trading the pound. patrick: shorting risk
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assets, so many beneficial, you may get a muted effect. imilarly in u.k. property, think it will attract foreign investors into u.k. property. so the pound is the cleanest way to do it. anna: another question about how the bond market would respond? one person's safe haven look like a risky asset. patrick: you will see short-term, the misery index, contracting due to imported inflation from a weaker currency. manus: we know it is incredibly spiked in sterling. i'm trying to find other ways of looking at the market. we what we are seeing here, woke up on the 24th and decided to stay. you will see a high price in sterling against the dollar, banging higher in terms of the euro. but what we have got here, i just want to get your take
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on this is the risk reversal for three-month, six of a month, and one year. they are all saying do not expect some magical read buying. in terms of if we wake up on the 24th of the net cause will be to have your self, rising by nearly five percentage points. tot is the most expensive hedge yourself since 2003. the market is saying even in three months, there is still be no necessarily huge bounce in this market if we stay we are in. patrick: i think sterling will bounce. there are a lot of trades hedging the risk. not speculating, but against that, if the vote happens that i think you will see those unwound. anna: this is perhaps a political question patrick, you have to make a judgment on it. when we see the referendum announced, questions are answered. but often, people do not move on. we enter the series of never-ending referendums. is it some and that will weigh
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on the u.k. and the growth story? even if we do vote to stay? getick: i think if we stay, back to the status quo environment, all that uncertainty will disappear. the risk is a volatility, the two-year risk for the economy. i think if the stay vote happens, we move on from this. manus: patrick armstrong there. up next, we will talk the bright spot. yes the but there was one in the imf report. anna: you have to dig down. the world's second-largest economy see the biggest jump in exports in over a year. that is something to talk about. but we will also bring you numbers from tesco. we have chief executive david lewis. but record losses, how much has the business moved on? manus: we have a set of reports that the iran oil minister is not set to attend the doha
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talks. 41.57, down 1% and tesco and sweden, at the top of the hour. ♪
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manus: china come back. ,xports jump the most in a year boosting the world's second-largest economy ahead of friday's gdp figures. stock markets rally on the newsgroup oil off the boil. crude oil retreats amid reports that iran's oil minister will not attend the production meeting in doha. and the imf warns that a brexit could cause severe damage to the world economy. david cameron gets the backing of business groups.
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♪ manus: you are welcome to "countdown." to the very warm welcome program. manus is going to talk about the oil price in just a second. we have been experimenting with this for a while and getting some insight into the budget out of sweden. some: let's give you breaking headlines. the swedish government says that .9% in 2016. by of course, this is an economy that is running hot. that is the point here. record low interest rates. the inflation story is gathering pace in sweden. the government sees growth at 3.8%. in december, they said it was going to be 3.1%. that is a little bit lower than nordea had estimated.
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said .9%er, they growth. they are upping the growth forecast. sees 2017 gdp of 2.2% overall. again, a little bit of a variety of takes here. the deficit, let's talk about the deficit. the swiss government sees a 2017 budget deficit. plus .7% of gdp. this year, it is going to be a .4%.it of negative again, a great deal of deliberation in terms of what happens. how much tolerance is there from the swiss grip -- bank? you have the economy that is growing and a real resurgence in terms of the currency. will they allow that to continue? those are the top lines. anna: let's get to tesco.
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the uk's largest retailer contending like many others in the price war we have seen affecting the grocery sector in the u.k. full-year operating profit has come in at 944 million pounds. that is just ahead of the estimate from analysts, 936 million. they are talking optimistically about profitability. they say there will be improvement in profitability pace. improvement will be in the first half of the year, they say. they will also see a reduction in debt levels. this is a company that still has a junk credit rating. looking out for any comments about how quickly they want to get that debt level down. they have ruled out major divestments to help curb the debt level after september, when disposalthe $4 billion of korean operations. yesterday, we heard about a disposal of a small stake in an e-commerce business to alibaba.
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be quizzed team will on the types of businesses in the u.k. that they could be tempted to sell if they turn their attention to that side of things. the number on operating profit better than estimated for tesco. manus: let's talk about futures. we had a nice, brisk march to the upside. london up .8%. over 1.2%. a variety of things at play. talking abouted patience. chinese exports rising the most in 18 months. is china stabilizing? oil, where do we go with the yin story?g -- and yang the relationship between equities and oil. 6na: the ftse 100 closed at
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142 last evening. it finally made up its declined the -- its decline. let's talk about oil. iran's oil minister is a pair the -- is apparently not .ttending the meeting in doha he is sending a representative instead. how relevant is this? from joins us this morning seneca investment management. we will get your thoughts in just a moment. how relevant is this news? whether he shows up in doha is completely irrelevant. the conversations have taken place amongst the opec members. the iranian position is the one that has not changed, which is we will not join acap until we get production back to levels that they were pre-sanctions.
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unless he wants some air miles, all he is going to do is sit in the room and listen. iran is not going to do it. manus: this is a graphical representation of where we are in terms of production. ryan: they are not there yet. that is what the graph shows you. manus: the other story was what levels do you use at this meeting in doha? everybody has a group hug. the idea was february production levels would allow iran to continue to produce and participate. of around this level of where they saw february production. the groupiely does to accommodate iran, the group needs to accommodate iraq, which is pumping at record levels. they need to come out with some nice, fancy language that allows iraq to keep pumping like there is no tomorrow. this is the thing. the expectation is that there is going to be some kind of deal.
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at least when you look at the since the up 30% preliminary agreement between the saudi's and the qataris. the real story will be, what is the deal going to be? do they fail to reach some kind of substantive deal? then you could see huge downside to the risk of the oil price. anna: what are the key questions? whether they can arrange a freeze, whether the freeze will hold, what interests you right now? if one of ther risks is that they may come to some agreement. you see a surge in the oil price and that brings back a lot of in production capacity europe that has been taken out. let's remember the whole point was to try to eliminate all of the u.s. shale production, to
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take it out of the market. i would have thought there was a bit of a risk that the opec news would allow the shale production to come back. you look at u.s. production, it has gone from 9.6 million barrels a day at its be to 9 million barrels. they do not want 6 million barrels to come back to market. they are going to do something. they do not want to go too far with capping or cutting. manus: or a global rate cut. we have got to move on. on a global basis, the u.s. has a huge swathe of production that is not there. rya thank youn, manus: -- ryan, thank you. peter stays with us. manus: let's talk about asian
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markets. help me with my dollar yen. >> we are seeing the yen weakened against the dollar, which is sending the nikkei up by almost 3% on the close be also seeing some good gains coming through on the asx 200. have a look at this rally on the shanghai composite. up 2.2%. some great gains coming through on export data. the expectations, overseas shipments up 11% from a year earlier. that is compared to a 25% slump in february. adding to those hopes that the gdp numbers we will get coming out of china on friday are going to be better than expected. players really led the gains in the region today. china doing petro very well. the basic materials rallying as
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well. we had some good numbers coming through from fort eskew metals ue metals group. that is a six session of gains and the best levels we have seen since early january. the longest run of wins on the regional index that we have seen since october of last year. we are also talking about not only the yen, but the resurgence we have seen and emerging-market currencies, led by the malaysian ringgit. it is up about .5% against the dollar at the moment. leading the gains that we have seen across emerging-market currencies. having a look at the japanese yen, if it is going to update. 108.74. a little bit of a switch coming through from the japanese yen, which is the reason why we have seen such a big boost coming back into the nikkei.
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a very solid session all around. manus: -- anna: thank you. there is fresh evidence that china's economy is stabilizing. in march.se by 11.5% that is after a 25% slump in february. manus: let's get more from our bureau chief in shanghai. the numbers make a good reading. you are going to see a whole swathe of notes about hard landing being out of the cards. what do you make of it? it is only a one-month turnaround, isn't it? >> that is true, but it is building on earlier positive data that cannot at the beginning of the month, like the manufacturing pmi as well as the cpi data, which seems to be building a case for some improvement in the chinese economy. --us: anna: sounds like reason to be
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cheerful, but we cannot count on the government to rest on their laurels. where do you sense the government goes next in its efforts to spur growth in china? >> all eyes are now on the gdp figure coming forward. that will be on friday. really thentals are same here in china. the government is still pursuing its plan to try to make the economy more efficient, to become less reliant on manufacturing. today's data shows that manufacturing -- the manufacturing sector is picking up. that is positive news. i might point out that there is some possible seasonal distortion from the chinese new year holiday that floats around between february and march that might be affecting the data. toin, it is all eyes on gdp
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see if the recent slew of positive data continues. manus: thank you so much. greg in shanghai, breaking down the latest data. peter joined us at the top of the show. we get so excited when there is good news regarding china. we have the exports data here. not be so if you said about china this morning, but it is the story. upgraded -- maybe i about not be so effusive china this morning, but it is the story. the imf even upgraded them. peter: everyone fears -- everyone's fears about global growth. were thetrade numbers only positive data that was coming out, i would not take much notice of them.
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as your correspondence had, they were building on other positive data that had come out earlier in the month. you also have the imf report upgrading china. you also have a couple of other things that are, in my view, looking quite positive. there is a leading indicator that i look at and that has been turning out quite positively. it looks like there is improvement going on in the chinese economy, which is very good news. manus: i am on a correlation roll at the moment. i am rocking it out. 120-day correlation between global stocks and oil. that is why i think there is so much. every word that comes out of , the iraq, saudi, russia biggest correlation since 2013. it is almost inch by inch. how do you look at that relationship and what is that relationship to you when you
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make decisions? peter: the oil price is a reflection on the health of the global economy. there is a lot going on which relates to supply as well and not just demand, but you have to say that the oil price is some sort of barometer of global growth. if the oil price is going up, maybe that is because global growth is getting better and that is great for equities markets. it is all about what the saudi's and others have been doing with their supply decisions. is not just oil. you have other commodity prices as well that are recovering. you did -- it does not necessarily mean that demand is great. it just means that demand is less bad. that is obviously the first thing you would expect in any recovery. manus: we have had a variety of said officials -- everyone is
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focused on whether we will get another hike by christmas. i found this fascinating comment. he said that the u.s. election will have bought janet yellen time before she has to make a hike. and it could open pandora's box. what could happen if this whole powder cake goes off -- keg goes off? peter: that is a tricky one to i was looking at comments from the fed officials who were speaking yesterday. two of them were quite dovish. they are voting next year, but they were saying, let's be patient. let's wait for the numbers to come through. la was quiteer -- hawkishcker, talking about how
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the disruption in financial markets earlier this year has not had any affect on growth, .hich is quite amusing the financial turmoil was because there were concerns about growth. so slightly unusual comment there, but the reality is that growth is not nearly as bad as people were worried it was. you have a lot of different views. anna: sticking with the fed members, there were some different views. the new york fed was tracking growth. they were saying 1.1%. they last said .1%. thank you. peter stays with us. comeback next, crude's hits a fresh speedbump. reports that iran's oil minister will be absent from the doha meeting sends commodities
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further into reverse.
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welcome back. you are looking at live shots of london. 7:20 this morning. the sun is coming out over london. let's get to hong kong. 2:20 in the afternoon. sallysally -- juliet joins us with a business flash. >> analyst estimates suggests operating profit rose to 944 million pounds compared with estimates of 936 million pounds for tesco. the improving sales helped them mitigate the damage caused by an industry price war. jpmorgan has cut about 5% of jobs in its asia-pacific world management unit as it refocuses on serving clients with higher investment thresholds. that is according to person with knowledge of the matter. the approximately 30 job cuts which happened this week are
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said to have involved mostly relationship managers based in hong kong and singapore. the bank is due to announce first-quarter earnings this morning at 11:45 u.k. time. deutsche bank has hired james boyle from citigroup following a slump in the units sales. that is according to two people familiar with the decision. o is tryingnk's co-ce to boost stock trading operations. pharmaceuticals is facing pressure from its bondholders to file its financials. convinced the company to issue a noted -- a notice of dassault. -- of default. the company reiterated it is on schedule to file its 10k on or before april 29. that is your bloomberg business flash. manus: thank you very much.
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on, theelcome peter elst ceo at seneca investment management, back into the conversation. guy came on and shouted about context,inflation referring to the difference between the event the fed and the new york fed. what is this? this is the view in terms of inflation five years out in the u.s. you say that perhaps causes the greatest concern of all. we're talking to black rock and jeffrey gun lock again in terms of the debate as to whether or not you want to belong treasuries -- to be long treasuries. let's take it back five years. iner: a big decline inflation over the next five inrs is sort of inherent bond markets. what you have seen over the last month or so, a strong recovery
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in inflation expectations, which i think is definitely a good thing. expectations have risen from quite low levels to levels that are a bit higher. we are not talking about high inflation that we should be worried about here. manus: 1.48%. peter: absolutely. the big question is what should your position be in sovereign bonds at the moment? in terms of where we sit, we had nothing in sovereign bonds anywhere for the next couple -- the last couple of years. we have seen yields at low levels. we have seen real yields at low levels. we cannot bring ourselves to invest in bonds that are clearly extremely poor value. that has actually hurt us in some respects. have been thes best-performing asset class. anna: you thought they looked bad. peter: they have gone from being expensive to very expensive.
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there have been other portions of our portfolios that have been performing extremely well. overall, our income fund is at the top of the fear group -- peer group because it has done well in u.k. equities and other parts of the spectrum. we continue to avoid -- we are not touching these sovereign bonds because they are incredibly expensive. they might get more expensive in the short-term, but over the long-term, you are guaranteed to lose real capital. manus: there was a renaissance of a couple of different asset classes in the first quarter. it was such a toward -- a tortured quarter with the first days of trading. we saw a rally in emerging-market currencies. some of the biggest emerging byket economies through over 4%. how much exposure do you want to take to ask -- to emerging markets? i know they are not all created
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equally, but how does it play for you? peter: the two points i would make about emerging markets, firstly, is that they are a play on the global economy. you see a high correlation between emerging-market equities and commodities prices. we start to see global growth improve and commodity prices improve, you will naturally see emerging-market equity performance improve. the other point i would make is that despite this romantic view that people have of emerging markets, that they are wonderful places to invest, they are actually horrific players -- places to invest if you're not careful. they are full of corrupt governments, badly-managed companies that are reckless with their capital expenditure. you have to be incredibly selective. anna: you have to know where to look. peter: absolutely. anna: peter, thank you for
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joining us this morning. that is it for "countdown." boil. oil coming off the the debate on whether the iran minister will be there. equities are set for a better opening. it is dawn in london. it is beautiful. we are back. ♪
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