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shock the world and said he is not ready to support donald j trump, billionaire. we read to his statement in response to ryan but donald trump called into the fox news network to flesh out his side of this spat in more details. >> i was surprised by it. it is fine. he can do whatever he wants. many other people were surprised. some were really surprised and not happy about it. comingmany endorsements in left and right. he is one of the only ones that was surprising. john: was there more? there was more. he uses favorite social media microphone to derive the house speaker. he tweeted out -- then, an hour later, he escalated his thinking even more
when katrina pearson went on cnn and had tough words for ryan. >> if the republican speaker of the house does not come around to support the republican nominee do you think paul ryan is fit to be speaker? >> no. this is about the party. cyclest two presidential we were told john mccain was a conservative. his conservative review scorecard is 37%. a were told that romney was conservative. he was pro-gay adoption. pro-abortion. the same people are now telling us because their guy did not win they want to hurt the party. we are a party. paul ryan needs to be the leader now. we are told donald trump is the presumptive nominee. it's incumbent on paul ryan to help bring unity. too. we are a party,
they put out a statement saying the chairman will meet to smooth things over. more republicans have taken sides. dick cheney said he will support the party's nominee. jeb bush wrote this afternoon he will not vote for either trump or hillary clinton in november. let's come back to the core issue here. the particular of donald trump versus paul ryan. who will blink first? blinki think trump may first. -- reince prius ebus, they are making progress on the fundraising front. appeal toobably his friend paul ryan.
paul ryan may endorse and be even more powerful. think ryan is uncomfortable with trump on many levels. i'm not sure this is going to be smooth. john: i have zero doubt. it isbody links -- blinks going to be donald trump read that response, he seemed to be impetuous. if you think of the ways when he has decided to go out and go after people in the past, that was relatively restrained. the stuff today was relatively restrained. katrina pearson went a little out of her seat. trump has been modulated in terms of how intensely he has attacked. anyway he wants to pivot . if he is going to be blinking it's on his side. mark: i agree.
john: i think that is where it is going to come if there is blinking. mark: if you think of the resistance, he has become in a surprise physician. -- position. he got dick cheney, symbolic. members of congress. he did not get the governor of illinois. trump has to prove he can win a general election. they have reservations of his his positions. if the nominee can beat hillary clinton that will get people on board. john: there is still a powerful thing here. the end of the week has come. the last republican nominee, previous republican nominee, none of them are for him at the end of this week. that overshadows everything else. those are the biggest names.
, what ever. do you even want cheney? mark: donald trump is an independent who ran as a republican. john: he says he wants to unite the party. mark: he has smashed the establishment. republicans.ized he is going to behave unlike anybody has behaved. this has not gone perfectly for him. he has got support from many establishment figures. he still may get them. john: it's huge for trump. if his goal was unity, and that is what he says it is. mark: he also says he doesn't need total unity. change washington and be a different candidate -- you are not going to get everybody. john: and he should stop talking -- stop talking about unity. not getting ryan is a big
to be subject to exacting standards and genuine scrutiny. mark: that was president obama talking about donald trump at the white house. , he is calling for a third-party alternative. , he's in our washington bureau. thank you for joining us today. what separates republicans like dick cheney from republicans like you in terms of willingness to stand with trump? bill: a different judgment over whether he has the temperament and judgment to be president. i i don't think any of these policies are a showstopper. it is choosing the lesser of two evils. i think this is true for mitt romney and the bushes.
think donald trump doesn't need -- meet the basic standards. i'm not trying to pick a fight between you and dick cheney. i'm confused as the sociological and human level, you have great respect for dick cheney's judgment. i'm confused. is that it. you are looking at the data and cheney says this guy has the character to be president and you say he doesn't? how could that be? in general you would be inclined to endorse the republican nominee. bill: i don't know. i would be happy to have a debate with dick cheney. i don't expect that to happen. elected officials, former elected officials like dick cheney, they lean more heavily, more presumptively likely to endorse the nominee.
they have done a lot of times. people they view privately not very great. not elected. i don't expect to be elected. i have a different standard in that respect. i've have the same mental back-and-forth myself. should one be surprised that recentd the most nominees aren't supporting the republican presumptive nominee? yes. saying, onjohn was , -- one of you , on the other hand he has picked up a lot of people through a range of senators. is it more impressive this
number of people who don't think well of him are endorsing and supporting him or is it more impressive that he doesn't have the support of the former candidates? which is pretty amazing. one other thing. we will see how this plays out. i think it is a mixed bag. john: when you think of donald thep's temperament, what is piece of evidence you most sees on that he has done or said that , a guy who said that acted that way should not sit in the oval office? >> temperament is too mild. character. a few days before indiana. you embrace the endorses -- endorsement of a rapist. you don't say that was horrible
that i didn't think of that. he doesn't even say that. he just says i like toughness. mike tyson is tough. he spends this conspiracy story from the national enquirer about ted cruz's father complicit in the assassination of a president of the united states. no evidence for it. to cruz denies it as he has come as he should. donald trump says i don't know. it could be true. willful disregard decency,cts, of all the one thing you could ask me, it was the mocking of the disabled new york times reporter, which is such a humanly grotesque thing to do. then he just lies and says i didn't do it. it's the combination of the bullying, the line, the disregard of facts and prudence.
if you want to have a congressman who is kind of a buffoon and reckless and says things he shouldn't, fine. he's a congressman. the country? do to a commander in chief? you just person described is dick cheney and mitch mcconnell's candidate for president of the united states. this new idea of stopping trump and stopping hillary clinton by finding someone who can win six dates big enough to keep them from getting 270 electoral votes. it seems doable. somebody has to win six medium-sized states. then virginia and north carolina . u.n. those, you may be able to stop. if you could pick anyone to do that, leaving aside they would be willing, who is someone who could pull that off? with the right money? bill: the person i had
conversations worth -- with, jim mattis could have run an impressive campaign. a genuine independent. i think there is even a winning strategy which is premised on a long shot that the independent candidate takes off. the three are on stage. voter see them together. this candidate -- mark: he said no. out, namee is somebody who could do it who might. is there anybody? bill or mitt romney. i think he is thinking about it or he could he the code that -- cochairman. mark: those are good names. we will have to talk about the romney option. we will talk to peter king about paul ryan and donald trump in
john: this next interview is on the house or of the house. joining us is congressman from district,econd congressman king. you have a situation on your hands in the republican party with donald trump. trying to figure out whether they are going to be supportive of him or not. give us your sense. you have been critical of him in the past. now you have said you will support him. >> i have said i would support
the nominee of the party. i will endorse him and vote for him. i'm not trying to make a cute distinction. i will not be campaigning for him. he has to make a more coherent foreign policy, national security policy, and tried to tie together somehow resolve the inconsistencies in his overall policy. i am a republican. i believe in the two-party system. i expect to be back in congress next year and i want to play a role in what's happening. i think we are at some sort of a defining moment. thiss this is a one-off, could be a turning point in the party. on almost every key issue donald trump is differing from what had been the accepted republican policies for the last 50 or 60 years on defense, trade, on the
issue of being more receptive to other people. mark: i know you are saying he is deviating but you said something, that he needed a more coherent trade policy. are you saying what you know currently is they are incoherent? >> yes. i am. he is talking about how china will be our main adversary. we have to stand up to them on the economy and militarily. at the same time he talks about withdrawing troops with korea and japan. , onehe ridicules the tpp of the main purposes was to strengthen our position these of the china so they cannot take off one by one these asian countries. you have to reconcile that. or how he is talking about some form of withdrawal from the middle east saying the u.s. is not going to be a policeman by
the same time we are going to protect christians. these are inconsistent, incoherent policies. in a general election, who be the favorite to win and why? >> right now hillary clinton is the favorite. but going back to last summer, donald trump or marco rubio or jeb bush would have been the favorite. theld trump is defying all rules of gravity and politics. hillary clinton has to be the favorite. i would not be surprised to see donald trump make a good race and actually beat her. he is going to come at her very asymmetrically. mark: why did she have to be the favorite? the fact that donald trump's unfavorables are higher. she has a united party. some bernie sanders people will leave her. the organization of the
democrats will be with her. exiles that government out there working for her. she again, many more democrats than republicans. they have the large voting blocs coming for them, the african-american vote, the hispanic vote which the republicans don't have. donald trump can go for the reagan democrats into troy, michigan, pennsylvania. that is why it's going to be significant. ryan said he supports the republican nominee. there is now a de facto nominee. why shouldn't we take his position of going back on his word? >> first of all he was expecting this to be resolved at the convention. paul ryan has different responsibilities than i do. leader of theacto congressional republicans.
he wants to ensure republicans keep the majority in the house. he wants to make sure donald trump realizes there are a number of house republicans who have serious differences with him. i am assuming these are his reasons and he wants to protect them. he believes very strongly in a strong national defense, and free trade. to gets to find a way donald trump to make some accommodation with that as we go forward. john: you talked about one of the things paul ryan seems to be doing, to give some cover to your colleagues in the house. play sociologist. you are well in touch with your's colleagues. -- your colleagues. how many will want to take that cover and not do what you are doing, to keep their distance from donald trump? whether they have to repudiate him or stay clear of them to keep their jobs? there is a good 30 or 40 have
serious issues with donald trump politically. they would be the moderate republicans. on the other hand you have strong conservatives who feel definitely he is not a conservative. paul has to look out for both wings of the polity -- party. as for electoral issues, it's probably, 30, 40 that will have real concerns. >> give me three adjectives you would use today to describe donald trump. flamboyant, and an enigma. >> hillary clinton? determined, strong, insecure. which may be in sick -- undermine strong. mark: good for truck or bad for
trump? ,> dick cheney and donald trump it's good for him. any endorsement is good. but it struck me, i can't imagine two more different people in my life. forgetting the politics break just the people they are. two different worlds. john: you suggested donald trump, this moment is a crisis for the republican party. how serious is it? could it be an existential crisis and lead to the fracturing of the party as we know it? ats it could result in restructuring. i never what to from a two-party system but this is a defining moment. when you think of all the policies we have had, goldwater, rockefeller, nixon, all of them, even when there were divisions there was much more agreed-upon than now. donald trump's key issues and
key point he is making, they are arguing with what the position has been historically. they use that term establishment. the fact that these are well thought-out policies, we have to analyze them carefully and look at them. i don't want to become an isolationist party. i don't want to put ourselves in the position where we have the same form policies as barack obama but we are disguising it as america first. mark: all right. have a great weekend. thank you for being with us. when we come back with donald trump's vp summit next week and more after this break. ♪
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was humorous and they also thought it was acknowledgment by trump that he recognizes it was a day important to the hispanic community. >> do you think he could be more sensitive to not stereotyping different ethnic groups? >> i don't think he was stereotyping and ethnic group all. it was a holiday for the hispanic community and i thought he thought it was all in the spirit of the holiday. >> that was the senior advisor to donald trump's campaign talking about his boss's much ,ommented upon taco bowl tweet which was massively re-tweeted. several outlets reporting hillary clinton will be interviewed by the fbi regarding her e-mail server in the coming weeks. no date has been set. to the toccoack bowl, i'm wondering whether you think that thing will end up a footnote at best in this campaign, or will it linger in some ways? john: i think it is telling, in a way.
did, it yesterday -- i was a bumbled latino outreach effort. i think that is how he meant it. i think he was trying to reach out. ham-handed and so -- soaning in some ways demeaning in some ways that it is resonant in a way. trump does so many controversial things. three or six months from now, it will be a footnote. i think it's not just a little gap. it has some broader resonance. mark: the trump campaign path to do list is massive. debate, all these things. hispanic outreach has got to be a priority. one of the criticisms of the romney campaign was that they never really got a full-fledged hispanic outreach effort up and running. it will remain to see if that tweet represents i don't want to
say the sum total, but the way trump thinks he can view social media that can impact his chances. john: mitt romney could have. have focused on it. is problem for trump, who the hispanic politician, the hispanic business leader, the hispanic who would be the face of that effort? i don't know who that would be. who would be the marquee players amongst hispanic american republicans who would rally to trump i come out and say, we know donald trump is a good guy? i don't know who those people would be. mark: joining us from the art deco palace down the street, and bc news katie kerr. -- nbc news' katie kerr.
what was the highlight and lowlight of the trump campaign? >> you guys are talking about the tocco bowl. that can be considered in many corners the lowlight of the campaign this week. devil'se going to play advocate, the highlight could potentially be his response to paul ryan, and in the campaign manager's response to paul ryan. i was speaking with corey lou down see last night and i asked him what he thought of the speaker's words and his lack of coming out to endorse him,, and he pointed to his boss standing under the stage on these bright lights, captivating the attention of about 10,000 people who were at the west virginia rally last night, and he pointed and said, that's the leader of the republican party. in some ways, that can be -- by the voters, a
highlight of this campaign, that he has embraced them instead of embracing the political elite. a sound ofo play donald trump talking a few minutes ago about paul ryan in omaha, nebraska. mr. trump: paul ryan, i don't know what happened. i don't. he called me two or three weeks ago. it was a nice conversation. he was congratulating me. the was before we had ultimate victory. i figured routinely he would be behind it. the other day and a big surprise -- i've had so many endorsements. today -- bob dole came in. dick cheney came in. many congressmen came in. many senators come in. we've had tremendous endorsements from a lot of people. do you think -- one of the big stories next week will be there meeting, right? how do you think trump will conduct himself in the run up to
that meeting? will he attack paul ryan? he seems relatively measured to me. he has not whipped out some horrible nickname. he's expressing befuddlement. change at anyld moment. i don't think he's necessarily going to try to provoke paul ryan anymore. despite what he says in the campaign trail, he does need the republican establishment to unify behind him at least in some degree to start fundraising for this campaign. he's going up against hillary clinton potentially, and she will be running what should be $1 billion campaign. he will need to find a way to make amends with the republican establishment and convince not just the other politicians, but fundraisers to come out and fund raise for him, and give him money. he will not win unless he will be able to go up against her with a real -- with real money backing him on his side, and ads
against her and all the various things that campaigns have in place, in order to take out a competitor. >>+++ with paul ryan's operation that the ryan team did not call donald trump's team before the interview the ryan did. kind of extraordinary at this stage that they would not have given him a heads up. i'm wondering if you think that's kind of a misditch or if there is not a lot of commerce between the two parties except through reince pribus. katy: i don't think there's much relationship there. paul manafort behind the scenes and a number of their other operatives are trying to reach out to the folks who run washington, but donald trump is
waiting. whenever i've asked to have you said, donaldhe trump is open to talking to anybody. my sense is the campaign is waiting for these republican leaders and politicians to reach out to him. without doing that, there isn't much interaction between the campaign. i know that manafort and others are trying to smooth things over with those on capitol hill. so far it's very telling that the only real emphatic endorsement for a senator has been joe sessions. the others have said they will always endorse the republican nominee, or they have not endorsed at all, mike lindsey graham. no one was expecting lindsey graham to endorse donald trump after this entire campaign so far. tur with any extraordinarily lifelike background behind her. [laughter] coming up -- trump as the nominee, how republic -- how vulnerable are republican house candidates all over america? listen to us on area radio nbc
bureau, looking like twins. david, let's talk about the house. give us a sense of what the current house battleground looks like. david: republicans have 247, 188 . seats in picked up 37 1964 when barry goldwater was on the tickets. the harder these days when house is better sorted out. the first 15 seats the democrats need to get to 30 are easy. next 15 seats are hard. >> jennifer, what is your early dave juste question raised, how are these house members going to behave now? ofnifer: i do know that some
the house members are concerned about the trump effect. the head of ano anti-trump super pac, make america awesome, and she says they have not been doing very might shift ears away from fighting trump because some of her consultants have gotten 911 calls from their house clients who have said, you've got to help me because i'm in trouble, trump is dragging me down in my house district. the super pac is possibly disbanding. people need their help elsewhere. could there be a big wave? there arebut i know districts very concerned about this, places where they are worried. -- paul ryan is taking it very seriously. i talked to his allies today. they said he has fundraisers in almost every competitive district. he has raised $3.7 million in the first quarter of 2016 for
his house members, so they are taking it seriously. >> they talk about some of the most endangered republicans, who are endangered if trump turns out to be the worst case scenario for the party. the republicans likeliest to distance themselves from donald trump are those likeliest to end up losing to democrats. the republican conference even more conservative in 2017. districts were at least 20% of adults are latino or asian, districts where at least 25% of the population has a college degree -- those types of districts aware donald trump could be radioactive and drag republicans into surprisingly uncomfortable races. >> what do you think donald trump needs to do to put the eyes -- put these republican candidates at ease? jennifer: i don't know if donald
trump is amenable to doing anything differently. i suppose the calculation for donald trump would have to be, would he gain more votes in the general election by shifting gears a bit and toning it down more than he would lose, if he changed from his base? what he can say to reassure them -- who knows what the trump effect is going to be in the general? >> how many seats could be in play in your worst scenario if trump is worse than goldwater? what is the most plausible number that guy could be in jeopardy for the republicans? david: it is still not all that high because of gerrymandering. weo 50 seats is the most would see in play on the republican side. an example of a member in a real as it is, a guy like carlos cabello from florida's 26th district, he represents a heavily cuban district.
he's a cuban-american. it is a highly educated latino district. he has said he will never vote for trump. another district might be virginia's 10th district, where barbara comstock has given money that donald trump gave to her a couple years ago back. those are the kinds of places we will be watching carefully. >> dave wasserman, jennifer jacobs, you guys make our friday. please come back again soon and have a good weekend. we will have the second king of our show tonight, residential grade guru josh king will the candidates this cycle. ♪
>> we are closing our really big shoe with a really big guest. josh king is a former director of production for presidential events for bill clinton and his white house, also the author of the fabulous new book, "guide to white house stagecraft, campaign spectacle, and political suicide." .hank you for joining us we will look at events from this campaign and ask you to break with hillaryarting clinton, an event in the fillmore in philadelphia from april 20, 2016. tell us what you see here. shot, and is a wide establishing shot. it is taken from a scissor live somewhere back by the press riser.
secretary clinton is right here in the middle. there's a bowl effect for her. the crowd behind her is a wonderful long distance behind her, which, when you look at a tight shot through the lenses from the back press riser, those people will be nice and blurred out so they won't distract from secretary clinton. let's look at the tight shot. this is a long lens from the press riser. a lot ofautifully lit, lights inside the fillmore. all these people, this is a sea of blurry people. this is a perfectly well staged event in philadelphia, with one exception. >> you can tell that is a multiracial crowd. josh: multiracial crowd, enthusiastic. let's not forget these american flags. there is one problem. there's no geographic identifier. while we're at the fillmore in philadelphia, you don't really have an idea about that except when you go over to what we call the cutaway shot.
you've got journalists here who are on a special riser of camera. they are shooting across secretary clinton to this sign over here. voila, "the philadelphia inquirer" shot. >> let's move on to bernie sanders. if there's been any candidate this year who is famous for his gigantic rallies, bernie sanders. talk about this. josh: this is the big four bridge. this is what we call magic hour. it's a most beautiful time of day to stage an event. >> louisville, kentucky. josh: right on this side of the river is jefferson city, indiana, or the primary was being held that day. sanders wins it, surprisingly, and yet here in kentucky it is the may 17 primary. by going toofer this media market. with senator sanders you have this common future to believe in that he has been very consistent
with from event to event. look how the afternoon sun and the sunset is playing off the big four bridge, just a beautiful, bucolic scene. straight on, this is what the photographers who were traveling with him are shooting from underneath senator sanders. it's the only angle they can make. this is perfect for "the new york times" or "the wall street journal." >> this is from february 27 in bentonville, arkansas. trumps event also well attended and well staged. josh: here you see the very powerful use of the delivery of his 757 aircraft traded pulls onto the apron at bentonville. it's probably a couple hundred feet away. donald trump gets out of the airplane. he's in the hangar. the problem in the hangar doing these events, he's very backlit. the airplane is out in the daylight and you can't show enough light on donald trump's face to bring out all of his
wonderful complexion. airplane good, backlight bad. >> what do you see in this photo? josh: the first thing that i see is making sure that his viewing audience at home knows where he is. where is he? he is in costa mesa, california. the local newspapers want to show that he is focusing on an immigration event that these people are saying they had relatives killed by illegal immigrants, and this is in a media market where that matters. he could be going anyplace in the country, but he shows off where he's going. geographicference identifier, the most important thing i took from this is, are these two things. these are large reverse monitor audio speakers. when you see donald and a tight shot on the evening news, he is
more conversational. he's not elevating his voice. becauset being shrill he's getting so much sound blasted back at him. he knows how to protect to his audience. >> let's talk more about trump real quick. two things we want to talk about here. let's talk about the hat. you are not supposed to wear hats in politics, right? why does he get away with the hat? for a few reasons. first, i'm told he plays golf in that had regularly at trump national down in palm beach. my friend says he wears that white shirt, khaki pants, and that had. he just traded trump on the bill for making america great again. if your photo editor is looking at the next day's paper, you can't crop out that message. he is wearing his bumper sticker on his head. he's very natural in it. he's authentic. he's not trying to be a tank commander or call minor. >> the taco bowl photo.
if he had come to you and said, i want to tweet this out, would you have set tweeted, boss, or squelch that tweet? josh: i would have said squelch that tweet. i can't argue with the fact that it has had 80,000 retweets and 100,000 likes. , you look atorning the expression on his face in trump tower. he's not eating. he's not gorging himself, the way he made fun of john kasich. he's being consistent with his brand and not embarrassing himself. he's giving his thumbs up to it. a man comfortable in his skin in that office. >> josh's book out now. it's called "off script." hell with the men, says donald trump. we will explain after this. ♪
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