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john: with all due respect to donald trump, you have been digging yourself out of so many situations lately, it is about time you wore the proper gear. [cheers] ♪ john: we have some not so minor miner news for sports fans. the republican party is still in
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recovery, after paul ryan ocksked of the argyle s off the republican party. and said he is not ready to support donald j. trump, billionaire. we read into his statement, in response to ryan, but donald trump called into the fox news network to flesh out his side of this spat in more details. mr. trump: i was surprised by it. it is fine. he can do whatever he wants. it is fine. i was surprised by. many other people were surprised. some were really surprised, and not happy about it. i have many endorsements coming in, left and right. he is one of the only ones that was surprising. john: was there more? oh, there was more. he used his favorite social media microphone to deride the house speaker. he tweeted out. " i did not inherited, i won it with millions of votes!" then, an hour later, he
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escalated his thinking even more, when katrina pearson went on cnn and had tough words for ryan. if he does not change his mind. >> if the republican speaker of the house does not come around to support the republican nominee, do you think paul ryan is fit to be speaker? katrina: no. because this is about the party. the last two presidential cycles, we were told john mccain was a conservative. his conservative review scorecard is 37%. we were told that romney was a conservative. and he was pro-gay adoption. pro-abortion. pro-gay marriage. gave us obamacare. we were told to hold our noses. the same people are now telling us, because their guy did not win, they want to hurt the party. we are a party. paul ryan needs to be the leader right now. we are told donald trump is the presumptive nominee. he is not the nominee until 1237. it's incumbent on paul ryan to help bring unity.
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john: mark, we are a party, too. they put out a statement, saying paul ryan and donald trump and the chairman will meet to smooth things over. more republicans have taken sides during the past 24 hours. dick cheney said he will support the party's nominee. while jeb bush wrote on facebook this afternoon, he will not vote for either trump or hillary clinton in november. let's come back to the core issue here. not just unite or divide. but the particular of donald trump versus paul ryan. who, do you reckon, is likely to blink first? mark: i think trump may blink first. i think reince pri ebus, they are making progress . paul metaphor to is working hard on that. he will appeal on the fundraising front. he will probably appeal to
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his friend, paul rn. paul ryan may endorse and be even more powerful. i think ryan is uncomfortable with trump, on many levels. and we will see how the meeting next week ghost. i'm not sure this is going to be a smooth detente, as people are expected. john: i have zero doubt. if anybody blinks, it is going to be donald trump, read that response, he seemed to be impetuous. firing back that he is not going to support paul ryan's agenda. if you think of the ways when he has decided to go out and go after people in the past, that was relatively restrained. the stuff today was relatively restrained. katrina pearson went a little bit out of her skiis there. trump has been modulated in terms of how intensely he has attacked. i think he wants to pivot anyway . if he is going to be blinking it's on his side. mark: i agree.
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john: i think that is where it is going to come if there is blinking. there may not be blinking. but if there is -- mark: if you think of the resistance, he has become in a surprise position. he did not get paul ryan or george bush. he got dick cheney, symbolic. members of congress. he did not get the governor of illinois. here is the key to me. trump has to prove he can win a general election. they have reservations of his behavior, his positions. some have reservations. but if the republican nominee looks like he can beat hillary clinton, that will get people on board. john: there is still a powerful thing here. the end of the week has come. the speaker of the house, the last republican nominee, previous republican nominee, none of them are for him at the end of this week. not one. to me, that overshadows everything else in terms of party unity.
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those are the biggest names. and cheney, what ever. do you even want cheney? mark: donald trump is an independent who ran as a republican. who has a lot of moderate positions. john: he says he wants to unite the party. mark: he has smashed the establishment. on his terms. he has criticized republicans. he has criticized the bushes and the ways of washington. he is going to behave unlike anybody has behaved. this has not gone perfectly for him. he has got support from many establishment figures. and he still may get paul ryan. john: it's huge for trump. if his goal was unity, and that is what he says it is. he has not achieved very much. mark: he also says he doesn't need total unity. john: it is not about total unity. mark: if you want to change washington and be a different candidate -- you are not going to get everybody. john: and he should stop talking -- stop talking about unity. this is not a unified party. mark: as a counter to what i was
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just saying, not getting ryan is a big deal. he is going to be hard to get. john: thank you for agreeing on that one point. the most important mark: and point. bill kristol of new york, and peter king. a lot more. but first, a quick word from our sponsors. ♪
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♪ pres. obama: i just want to emphasize the degree to which this is a serious time. and this is a serious job. this is not entertainment. this is not a reality show. this is a contest for the presidency of the united states. and what that means is every candidate, every nominee, needs
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to be subject to exacting standards and genuine scrutiny. mark: that was president obama, earlier today, talking about donald trump at the white house. joining us now is someone who does not much care for the remaining party candidates. he is calling for a third-party alternative. bill kristol, he's in our washington bureau. thank you for joining us today. bill: thanks, mark. mark: what separates republicans like dick cheney from republicans like you, in terms of willingness to stand with trump? bill: you know, i guess just a different judgment, over whether he has the temperament and judgment to be president. i don't think any of these policies are a showstopper. we are all used to the compromising on two candidates, choosing the lesser of two evils. with me, and i think this is true for mitt romney and the bushes.
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and ben sasse, he has been eloquent with this. i think donald trump doesn't meet the basic standards. mark: i'm not trying to pick a fight between you and dick cheney. i'm confused, at the sociological and human level, you have great respect, i think, for dick cheney's judgment. i'm confused. is that it? you are looking at the data, and cheney says this guy has the character to be president, and you say he doesn't? how could that be? that you would reach such a fundamentally different conclusion. in general, you would be inclined to endorse the republican nominee. bill: i don't know. i would be happy to have a civilized debate about this with dick cheney. i don't expect that to happen. i would say that former elected officials, former elected officials like dick cheney, they lean more heavily, they are more presumptively likely to endorse the nominee.
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they have done that a lot of times. people have a new privately were not very great. i don't, i am not elected. i have not been. i don't expect to be elected. i slightly different standard in that respect. you guys captured it earlier in your back-and-forth. i've have the same mental back-and-forth myself. should one be surprised that bush and the most recent speaker of the house aren't supporting the republican presumptive nominee? yes. as mark was saying. as i think john was saying, on the other hand, -- one of you was saying, on the other hand he has picked up a lot of people through a range of senators. mitch mcconnell and others. i think dick cheney as well. is it more impressive this
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number of people who don't think well of him are endorsing and is it more impressive that you do not have the support of the former candidates? which is pretty amazing. i would say. so anyway, one other thing. we will see how this plays out. i think it is a mixed bag. at this point. john: bill, when you think of donald trump's temperament, what is the piece of evidence you most sees on that he has done or said that stands out most, a guy who said that acted that way should not sit in the oval office? bill: you know, temperament is too mild. i would just say character. look at the few days before indiana. not on my side. endorsement of a racist. you don't say that was horrible that i didn't think of that.
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like a heavyweight champion. just saying that mike tyson is tough. the indianaf spins this conspiracy story from the national enquirer about ted cruz's father complicit in the assassination of a president of the united states. no evidence for it. ted cruz denies it as he has to , as he should. donald trump says i don't know. it could be true. that level of willful disregard of all facts, of all decency, you know, for me the one thing you could ask me, if i wake up at 6:00 in the morning, it was the mocking of the disabled new york times reporter, which is such a humanly grotesque thing to do. then he just lies and says i didn't do it. so, it's the combination of the bullying, the line, the reckless disregard of facts and prudence.
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to use an old-fashioned word. if you want to have a congressman who is kind of a buffoon and reckless and says things he shouldn't, fine. i mean, he's a congressman. what damage can he do to the country? a commander in chief? mark: the person you just described is dick cheney and mitch mcconnell's candidate for president of the united states. that is position we find ourselves in. this new idea of stopping trump and stopping hillary clinton by finding someone who can win six states big enough to keep them from getting 270 electoral votes. we have been playing with the mass today. it seems doable. somebody has to win six medium-sized states. not the mega-states, florida and ohio. then virginia and north carolina . colorado. you win those, you may be able to stop. if you could pick anyone to do that, leaving aside they would be willing, who is someone who is still constitutionally
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eligible, who is someone who could pull that off? with the right money? bill: the person i had conversation with, jim mattis could have run an impressive campaign. a genuine independent. he is more liberal than i am. i think there is even a winning strategy which is premised on a longshot obviously that the independent candidate takes off. the three are on stage. the voters see them together. this candidate -- mark: he said no. now that he is out, name somebody who could do it who might. is there anybody? bill ben sasse or mitt romney. i think mitt romney could be been sasse's campaign. i think he is thinking about it or he could he the code that -- cochairman. mark: those are good names. we will have to talk about the romney option. we will talk to peter king about
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paul ryan and donald trump in just a moment. stay tuned. we will be right back. ♪
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♪ john: this next interview is on the house, or of the house. joining us now from long island, is congressman from new york's second district, congressman king. how are you doing? man king: john: you have a situation on your hands, in the republican party with donald trump. trying to figure out whether they are going to be supportive of him or not.
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give us your sense. you have been critical of him in the past. now you have said you will support him. congressman king: i have said i would support the nominee of the party. i will endorse him and vote for him. i'm not trying to make a cute distinction. i will not be campaigning for him. he has to make a more coherent foreign policy, national security policy, and tried to tie together somehow or resolve the inconsistencies in his overall policy. i am a republican. i believe in the two-party system. and i expect to be back in congress next year and i want to play a role in what's happening. i think we are at some sort of a defining moment. i mean, unless this is a one-off aberration, this could be a turning point in the party. on almost every key issue, donald trump is differing from what had been the accepted republican policies for the last 50 or 60 years on defense, trade, on the
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whole issue of being more receptive to other people. mark: congressman, i know you are saying he is deviating but you said something, that he needed a more coherent trade policy. are you saying what you know currently of his policies is that they are incoherent? congressman king: yes. i am. he is talking about how china will be our main adversary. we have to stand up to them on the economy and militarily. at the same time, he talks about withdrawing troops with korea and japan. when he ridicules the tpp, one of the main purposes was to strengthen our position these of the china so they cannot take off one by one these asian countries. so we have to show how you reconcile that. or basically how he is talking about some form of withdrawal from the middle east saying the u.s. is
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not going to be a policeman by the same time we are going to protect christians all over the middle east. these are inconsistent, incoherent policies. mark: in a general election, who be the favorite to win and why? congressman king: right now, i would say hillary clinton is the favorite. but going back to last summer, donald trump or marco rubio or jeb bush would have been the favorite. listen, donald trump is defying all the rules of gravity and politics. so right now, hillary clinton has to be the favorite. i would not be surprised to see donald trump make a good race and actually beat her. he is going to come at her very asymmetrically. mark: why did she have to be the favorite? what makes her the favorite, right now? congressman king: just the fact that donald trump's unfavorables are higher. she has a united party. i know some bernie sanders people will leave her.
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but the organizational democrats will be with her. she has that government exile , that the clintons have had for years, out there working for her. she again, many more democrats than republicans. they have the large voting blocs coming for them, the african-american vote, the hispanic vote, which the republicans don't have. now, donald trump can go for the reagan democrats in detroit, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio. that is why it's going to be significant. mark: speaker ryan said he would support the republican nominee. there is now a de facto nominee. you said you would do that. why shouldn't we take his position of going back on his word? congressman king: i would say first of all, he was expecting this to be resolved at the convention. paul ryan has different responsibilities than i do. he is the de facto leader of the congressional republicans. and he wants to ensure
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republicans keep the majority in the house. he wants to make sure donald trump realizes there are a number of house republicans who have serious differences with him. and again, i have not spoken to paul ryan. i am assuming these are his reasons and he wants to protect them. but paul ryan believes very strongly in a strong national defense, and free trade. and he wants to find a way to get donald trump to make some accommodation with that as we go forward. john: congressman, you just talked about one of the things paul ryan seems to be doing, to give some cover to your colleagues in the house. just play sociologist. you are well in touch with your colleagues. how many of your colleagues will want to take that cover and not do what you are doing, to keep their distance from donald trump? whether they have to repudiate him openly, or just stay clear of them for the sake of keeping
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their jobs? congressman king: i would say there is a good 30 or 40 have serious issues with donald trump politically. i would say they would be the moderate republicans. on the other hand, you have strong conservatives who feel definitely donald trump is not a conservative. paul has to look out for both wings of the party. as for electoral issues, it's probably, 30, 40 that will have real concerns. mark: it is friday. i'm going to do a pure gimmick. give me three adjectives you would use today to describe donald trump. congressman king: unusual, flamboyant, and an enigma. mark: three adjectives you would use to describe hillary clinton? congressman king: determined, strong, insecure. which may be undermines strong.
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mark: donald trump got dick cheney's endorsement. trump or bad for dick cheney? king: dick cheney and donald trump, it's good for him. any endorsement is good. but it struck me, i can't imagine two more different people in my life. forgetting the politics break just the people they are. two different worlds. john: you suggested donald trump, this moment is a crisis for the republican party. how serious is it? is this the kind of crisis that could be an existential crisis and lead to the fracturing of the party as we know it? congressman king: it could result in a restructuring. i never what to from a two-party system but this is a defining moment. when you think of all the policies we have had, goldwater, rockefeller, nixon, all of them, even when there were divisions there was much more agreed-upon than now.
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donald trump's key issues and key points he is making, they are arguing with what the position has been historically. they use that term establishment. all of that nonsense. the fact that these are well thought-out policies, we have to analyze them carefully and look at them. i don't want to become an isolationist party. i don't want to put ourselves in the position where we have the same foreign policies as barack obama, but we are disguising it as america first. mark: peter king, congressman, have a great weekend. thank you for being with us. when we come back with donald trump's vp summit next week and much more, after this quick break. ♪
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âi ♪ >> a lot of people thought it was very humorous.
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and they also thought it was acknowledgment by trump that he recognizes it was a day important to the hispanic community. andrea: do you think that he could be more sensitive to not stereotyping different ethnic groups? paul: i don't think he was stereotyping an ethnic group all. it was a holiday for the hispanic community and i thought he thought it was all in the spirit of the holiday. mark: that was paul menar anafort, senior advisor to donald trump's campaign talking about his boss's much commented upon taco bowl tweet, which was massively re-tweeted. several outlets reporting hillary clinton will be interviewed by the fbi regarding her e-mail server in the coming weeks. reported,s been has been set. john, going back to the tocco aco bowl, i'm wondering whether you think that thing will end up a footnote at best in this
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campaign, or will it linger in some ways? john: i think it is telling, in a way. we joked yesterday -- i did, it was like a bumbled latino outreach effort. i actually think that is how he meant it. i think he was trying to reach out. in his trumpian way. if so, it's so ham-handed and so demeaning in some ways, that it is resonant, in a way. i think trump does so many controversial things. that three or six months from now, it will be a footnote. i think it's not just a little gap. like it has some broader resonance. mark: the trump campaign path to do list is massive. pick a running mate. debate prep. all these things. hispanic outreach has got to be a priority. one of the criticisms of the romney campaign was that they never really got a full-fledged hispanic outreach effort up and running. and it will be fascinating to see if that tweet represents i
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don't want to say the sum total, but the way trump thinks he can view social media that can impact and improve his chances. john: mitt romney could have focused on it. could have. try to get out of the deportation box he put himself in. the problem for trump, who is the hispanic politician, the hispanic business leader, the hispanic who would be the face of that effort? there may be one. i don't know who that would be. if he wanted to focus in and do it, who would be the marquee players amongst hispanic american republicans who would rally to trump, come out and say, we know donald trump is a good guy? i don't know who those people would be. mark: joining us from the art deco palace down the street, and nbc news' katie kerr. she covers the donald trump campaign. what would you say was the
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highlight and lowlight of the trump campaign? you guys areek, talking about the taco bowl. that can be considered in many corners the lowlight of the campaign this week. if you're going to play devil's advocate, the highlight could potentially be his response to paul ryan, and in the campaign manager's response to paul ryan. donald trump said that he would endorse paul ryan, embracing his outsider status. i spoke with corey lewandowski last night. and i asked him what he thought of the speaker's words and his lack of coming out to endorse him, and he pointed to his boss standing under the stage on these bright lights, captivating the attention of about 10,000 people who were at the west virginia rally last night, and he pointed and said, that's the leader of the republican party. and in some ways, that can be considered -- i know it is not a popular opinion in washington --
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but can be considered by the voters, a highlight of this campaign, that he has embraced them instead of embracing the political elite. john: katy, i want to play a little sound of donald trump talking a few minutes ago about paul ryan in omaha, nebraska. mr. trump: paul ryan, i don't know what happened. i don't. he called me two or three weeks ago. it was a nice conversation. he was congratulating me. this was before we had the ultimate victory. but he was congratulating me for doing so well. i figured routinely he would be behind it. the other day and a big surprise , because i have had so many endorsements. today, bob dole came in. dick cheney came in. many congressmen came in. many senators come in. and we've had tremendous endorsements from a lot of people. john: katy, do you think -- one of the big stories next week
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will be their meeting, right? how do you think trump will conduct himself in the run up to that meeting? will he attack paul ryan? in his comments, he seems relatively measured to me. he has not whipped out some horrible nickname. he is not really attacking him. he's expressing befuddlement. which suggested me he wants detente. katy: this could change at any moment. i don't think he's necessarily going to try to provoke paul ryan anymore. despite what he says in the campaign trail, he does need the republican establishment to unify behind him at least in some degree to start fundraising for this campaign. he's going up against hillary clinton potentially, and she will be running what should be about a $1 billion campaign. he will need to find a way to make amends with the republican establishment and convince not just the other politicians, but fundraisers to come out and fund raise for him, and give him money. because he will not win unless he will be able to go up against her with a real -- with real money backing him on his side, and ads against her and all the
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various things that campaigns have in place, in order to take out a competitor. mark: katy, i'm told by sources familiar with paul ryan's operation that the ryan team did not call donald trump's team before the interview the ryan did. kind of extraordinary at this stage that they would not have given him a heads up. i'm wondering if you think that's kind of a misditch or if there is not a lot of commerce between the two parties, except through reince priebus. katy: i don't think there's much relationship there. if you will, i think that paul manafort behind the scenes and a number of their other operatives are trying to reach out to the folks who run washington, but donald trump himself is waiting for them to call him. i have spoken to corey lewandowski many times about it. whenever i've asked to have you spoken with, he said, donald trump is open to talking to anybody. my sense is the campaign is
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waiting for these republican leaders and politicians to reach out to him. and without doing that, there isn't much interaction between the campaign. i could be wrong. but that is certainly my sense of things. i know that manafort and others are trying to smooth things over a lot. with the rnc and with those on capitol hill. but so far it's very telling that the only real emphatic endorsement for a senator has been joe sessions. and the rest of them, they have said they will always endorse the republican nominee, or they have not endorsed at all, mike like lindsey graham. no one was expecting lindsey graham to endorse donald trump after this entire campaign so far. mark: and the donald trump putting an incredibly acerbic statement out about lindsey graham. nbc's katy tur with an extraordinarily lifelike background behind her. [laughter] coming up, with trump as the nominee, how republican house
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♪ john: the chatter is growing about just how dangerous donald trump might be. there are at least seven senate contests considered toss-ups by the cook political report, which tracks closely these things. we wanted to focus on the less talked about house races. so, we called in a couple of experts. david wasserman, and our bloomberg colleague, the great jennifer jacobs.
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they join us from our d.c. bureau, looking like twins. sort of siblings. identical glasses, incredible. david, let's talk about the house. give us a sense of what the current house battleground looks like. david: republicans have 247, 188. it is the largest majority since 1928. now, democrats picked up 37 seats in 1964, when barry goldwater was on the ticket. that is what they are hoping for, a repeat of that. but it is a lot harder these days, when the house is better sorted out. the first 15 seats the democrats need, to get to 30, are easy. they have been tossups all year. the next 15 seats are hard. i will be watching how many of the 26 who were in places that obama carried will endorsed from. mark: jennifer, what is your early read on the question dave just raised, how are these house members going to behave now?
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jennifer: well, i do know that some of the house members are concerned about the trump effect. er, thetalked to liz ma head of an anti-trump super pac, make america awesome, and she says they have not been doing very much lately and might shift gears away from fighting trump, . because some of her consultants have gotten 911 calls from their house clients who have said, you've got to help me, because i'm in trouble. trump is dragging me down in my house district. and so therefore, the super pac is possibly disbanding. because people need their help elsewhere. so you know, could there be a big wave? unlikely, but i know there are districts very concerned about this, places where they are worried. and obviously, paul ryan is taking it very seriously. i talked to his allies today. they said he has done fundraisers in almost every competitive district. he has raised $3.7 million in the first quarter of 2016 for his house members, so they are really taking it seriously.
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mark: they talk about some of the most endangered republicans, who are endangered if trump turns out to be the worst case scenario for the party. david: well, you know the irony here is that the republicans likeliest to distance themselves from donald trump are those likeliest to end up losing to democrats. that may make the republican conference even more conservative in 2017. even if they keep the majority. but i am looking at two types of districts in particular. districts were at least 20% of adults are latino or asian, and districts where at least 25% of the population has a college degree. those two types of districts are where i think donald trump could be radioactive and drag republicans into surprisingly uncomfortable races. john: jennifer, what do you think donald trump needs to do to put the eyes -- put these republican candidates at ease? get more comfortable with him on the ticket, as the nominee.
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jennifer: i don't know if donald trump is amenable to doing anything differently. i suppose the calculation for donald trump would have to be, would he gain more votes in the general election by shifting gears a bit and toning it down more than he would lose, if he changed from his base? so, you know what he can say to reassure them -- who knows what the trump effect is going to be in the general? i mean, i don't think anybody knows that. john: david, i will give you to stick your number here. pure seats could be in play in your worst scenario if trump is worse than goldwater? what is the most plausible number that guy could be in jeopardy for the republicans? david: it is still not all that high because of gerrymandering. but i think that 45 to 50 seats is the most we would see in play on the republican side. you know, and example of a member in a real bind as it is, a guy like carlos cabello from florida's 26th district, he represents a heavily cuban district. he's a cuban-american.
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that is a well educated, high latino district. he has said he will never vote for trump. another district might be virginia's 10th district, where in the suburbs barbara comstock has given money that donald trump gave to her a couple years ago back. those are the kinds of places we will be watching carefully. john: dave wasserman, jennifer jacobs, you guys make our friday. please come back again soon and have a good weekend. coming up, we will have the second king of our show tonight, presidential optics guru josh king will grade the candidates this cycle. we will be right back, after this. ♪
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♪ mark: we are closing our really big shoe with a really big guest. somebody who knows what it takes. josh king is a former director of production for presidential events for bill clinton and his white house, also the author of the fabulous new book, "guide to white house stagecraft, campaign spectacle, and political suicide." josh king, thank you for joining us. john: a compelling subtitle. mark: we will look at events from this campaign and ask you to break them down, starting with hillary clinton, an event in the fillmore in philadelphia, from april 20, 2016. tell us what you see here. josh: yet, let us go to the fillmore. this is a wide shot, an establishing shot. it is taken from a scissor, live somewhere back by the press riser.
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notice secretary clinton is right here in the middle. there's a bowl effect for her. the crowd behind her is a wonderful long distance behind her, which, when you look at a tight shot through the lenses from the back press riser, those people are going to be nice and blurred out, so they won't distract from secretary clinton. let's look at the tight shot. so, this is a long lens from the press riser. she is beautifully lit, a lot of lights inside the fillmore. but all these people, this is a sea of blurry people. compacted, asoo you saw earlier. mark: this is a well staged event. josh: this is a perfectly well-staged event in philadelphia, with one exception. john: you can tell that is a multiracial crowd. josh: multiracial crowd, enthusiastic. let's not forget these american flags. there is one problem. there's no geographic identifier. while we're at the fillmore in philadelphia, you don't really have an idea about that except
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when you go over to what we call the cutaway shot. you've got journalists here who are on a special riser of camera. they are shooting across secretary clinton to this sign over here. voila, "the philadelphia inquirer" shot. this is the cutaway. secretary clinton, or logo. john: let's move on to bernie sanders. just because if there's been any candidate this year who is famous for his gigantic rallies, obama-size rallies, bernie sanders. talk about this. josh: this is the big four bridge. this is what we call magic hour. it's a most beautiful time of day to stage an event. john: this is louisville, kentucky. josh: right on this side of the river is jefferson city, indiana, or the primary was being held that day. sanders wins it, surprisingly, and yet here in kentucky it is the may 17 primary. you get a twofer by going to this media market. with senatorave
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sanders, you have this common future to believe in that he has been very consistent with from event to event. look how the afternoon sun and the sunset is playing off the big four bridge, just a beautiful, bucolic scene. straight on, this is what the photographers who were traveling with him, people photographers who are with him, are shooting from underneath senator sanders. it's the only angle they can make. this is perfect for "the new york times" or "the wall street journal." let us moveic and on to donald trump. this is from february 27 in bentonville, arkansas. trump's event also well attended and well staged. josh: here you see the very powerful use of the delivery of his 757 aircraft traded pulls onto the apron at bentonville. and it is probably only a couple hundred feet away. donald trump gets out of the airplane. he's in the hangar. now, the problem in the hangar doing these events, he's very backlit. the airplane is out in the daylight and you can't show enough light on donald trump's face to bring out all of his wonderful complexion.
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mark: you get the airplane, but you get the backlight. : aiplane good, backlight bad. mark: what do you see in this photo? josh: the first thing that i see is making sure that his viewing audience at home knows where he is. where is he? he is in costa mesa, california. the local newspapers want to show that he is focusing on an immigration event that these people are saying they had relatives killed by illegal immigrants, and this is in a media market where that matters. and he could be going anyplace in the country, but he shows off where he's going. so, another difference of event and another geographic identifier, the most important thing i took from this is, are these two things. these are large reverse monitor audio speakers. so that when you see donald in a tight shot on the evening news, he is more conversational.
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he's not elevating his voice. he is not being what he would say is shrill because he's getting so much sound blasted back at him. he knows how to protect to his audience. john: take a seat right there. let's talk more about trump real quick. two things we want to talk about here. one of them is, let us talk about the hat. you are not supposed to wear hats in politics, right? michael dukakis, the tank, bad. why does he get away with the hat? josh: for a few reasons. first, i'm told he plays golf in that had regularly at trump national down in palm beach. my friend joe says he wears that white shirt, khaki pants, and that had. he just traded trump on the bill for making america great again. now, if you're photo editor is looking at the next day's paper, you can't crop out that message. so, he is wearing his bumper sticker on his head. and he's very natural in it. he's authentic. he is comfortable in his own skin. he's not trying to be a tank
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commander. mark: really quickly, the taco bowl photo. if he had come to you and said, i want to tweet this out, would you have set tweeted, boss, or squelch that tweet? josh: i would have said squelch that tweet. but i can't argue with the fact that it has had 80,000 retweets and 100,000 likes. and it has been the conversation we had all day long. i said this morning, you look at the expression on his face in trump tower. he's not eating. he's not gorging himself, the way he made fun of john kasich. he is very much being consistent with his brand and not embarrassing himself. he's giving his thumbs up to it. it is a man comfortable in his skin in that office. mark: josh king, thank you for breaking that down. josh's book out now. it's called "off script." next, to hell with the men, says donald trump. we will explain, right after this. ♪
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mr. trump: to hell with the men. the men? they say, you win with the men, you are through the roof. to hell with the men. i want the women. ok? john: that was donald j. trump in omaha. catch us online at coming up on "bloomberg west," the incoming president of fireeye. to hell with us. we say to you -- mark: sayonara. ♪
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