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you willie: i am willie geist. mark: i am mark halperin. we hope this one is a little more intimate. >> mark halperin is aboard a delta flight somewhere over the united states. what are you doing? are you really in the can? ♪ mark: this is your captain speaking, sit back, relax, and buckle up because we are expecting turbulence, especially for donald trump. maybe, controversy swirls around him like dust around pigpen, but he was supposedly trying to be
his own publicist. ongoing questions about why he will not release his tax returns. and this weekend, a lengthy new york times story showing his improper behavior towards women. any one of these flaps would consume a normal campaign and rivals would pounce on all of the negative headlines. but donald has been on the offense for all of this, and clinton has gone silent when it comes to that new york times story. also benefiting trump today, a woman rowanne brewer lane. she has been making the rounds on cable network denouncing the story as misleading. rowanne brewer lane: i was not happy with the way the article was written, and i promised it would not be done that way, and absolutely was. that was not fair to me, and not fair to him. it seems they must have an agenda. we had a great relationship. i feel they misled me into that the entire time into that article. it was almost a trap.
mark: we have these flaps over the new york times story alleging improper behavior by donald trump. are these stories going to linger and damage or with a fade away as most trump things do? willie: i have details to add. she was once married to the late jamie lane of warrant. so one hand you have a series of stories behind john miller and the new york times story that reinforce what most people already think or know about donald trump. i don't think there was a huge surprise. i'm not advocating what he did. but people think they know these things about him. it is baked into the cake. if you look at the autopsies i did, a window into my social life of the 2012 presidential campaign. we have to win minorities and women are we have no choice.
we cannot repeat romney or we can do no worse. so the new york times story, if that includes a bunch of women, they cannot lose women. they need to gain women if he wants to be president. mark: that story had lots of accusations. one person comes forward and says her account was treated in a misleading way. but there are other accusations that need to be taken seriously involving the workplace. but the clinton campaign has been silent. if you said donald trump was hit with a huge megaton new york times story about trump and women, you would expect there to be lots of print clinton surrogates silence today because they don't want to engage in discussions of people's personal pasts. and trump has hit them on that. the pr thing that the presently disappeared. maybe one trump is asked about it again, directed whether he ever did that, it will come back. but this women thing is just
hugely complicated, because if the clinton people do not make a big deal and none of the women's week out, reinforcing this, where does ago? willie: and they are concerned about what he does next, which is the big question. will donald trump go from putting out rowan like he did, she said they took me out of context, that lead to bill clinton? and people voting in the general election will say, bill clinton's indiscretion did not reflect on hillary clinton. will that overreach in the case of women? mark: the reality for trump, he can go on offense. there is not a story to come out, even the most damaging. he will go on offense no matter what. hillary clinton is more like a typical candidate. she tries to stay up of something that. just say out of something bad. willie: i know the bell means we must move on. a two-for-one special on the
stump on kentucky. hillary clinton said she would take advantage of her husband's economic wizardry. hillary clinton: my husband, who i'm going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy, because you know he knows how to do it. [applause] especially in places like coal country and inner cities and other parts of our country that have really been left out. mark: here's what secretary clinton said today when asked about the former president in bowling green kentucky. hillary clinton: we know how to create jobs. my husband did a heck of a job creating jobs back in the 1990's. mark: as we know from a remarkable new york times story by patrick healey, trump plans to bring back the infidelities with the world watching. hillary clinton is now talking about her husband on the trail.
how is bill clinton's role shaping up as a factor? mark: she raised this economy there were tremors all over the place. other people thought it was weird. today such a specific claim and almost offer him a job. i think it hangs in the balance. bill clinton has proved he can walk through negative stories. when he was a candidate, when he was president. when he is out there, he is not very high profile. donald trump up with him front and center. hillary will have to have the response. trump will say you are not the victim, you are a co-conspirator. how will clinton handle it? people around bill clinton are worried. i would say terrified he will not handle this well. and trump will be a master of psy-ops. willie: trump made the point you just made in the new york times story, which is that you cannot just go out and throw slime at hillary clinton about bill clinton.
there has to be a strategy and a has to reflect on her. it will be up to him to twist that. the most remarkable thing about that story is that donald trump came out and announced five months ahead of the first debate the strategy, which is to throw all this stuff at her. mark: part of it is recklessness or carelessness or trump being trump. but it is also a calling card of psy-ops. he knows how to deal with these things. i talked with him, most other publicans, and he gets it. he gets them way the media cycle works, what he can do on twitter. he has said accurately, he has just begun. like the heelys story suggests, so he has held off and do later, he is going for it now. this story about him with clinton to say a word about it, it will happen in real time. let's go back and stay with trump. controversies continues to twirl around him. many republicans will be asked between now and november to weigh in on various things he
does. the lesson on how his efforts might go came this weekend with the chairman of the committee, reince priebus asked about a host of headlines. again including that new york times story. >> you said they found repeated instances of trump insulting women and making unwanted advances, even in the workplace. does that bother you? reince priebus: you know, a lot of things bother me, chris. all the stories that come out, and they come out every couple weeks, people just don't care. i'm not saying people don't care about it. you have any doubts in your mind about trump's relationship with women and the way he talks about women? >> as judging each other is problematic. it is when people live in glass houses and throw stones is when people get in trouble.
mark: wow. equally squirming answers when asked about stories of trump's p.r. role-playing. so willie, where these week weekend answers eight sign of trouble to come? willie: let me provide subtext for chairman priebus' answer. what the hell do you want from me? i am going along for the ride. do you really think donald trump is listening to the alleged establishment? really listen for the next six months? they are like in basketball to see what the next move is. he does not have any problem. mark: squirmy as they were and uncomfortable, that is the best anyone can do. the public does not care about this, they want this election to be about other stuff. if trump can reach an agreement with economic principles to talk
about lower taxes, less government, something they can say, well, we want this to be middle class, then they can safe harbor. so it is not a trump is running on in terms of policy about the economy. that is all he can say. but man, reince priebus has been staffed and briefed. how are they going to answer for him? willie: i don't know. none of us has been able to answer for a year. do you think paul ryan, reince priebus, all these people from the last week were able to inject normalcy where you can say behave a little bit like a normal person. mark: when we come back, does president obama help or hurt hillary clinton with the attack of donald trump? we will look at the record rutgers commencement speech
♪ mark: politicians have been polishing up their inspirational speeches this graduation season, but president obama used part of his remarks to rutgers university in new jersey to drive general election messaging. he did not call out donald trump or any of his pseudonyms at least by name. president obama: in politics as in life, ignorance is not a virtue. it is not cool to not know what you are talking about. [laughter] i am not keeping it real or telling it like it is.
that is not challenging political correctness, isolating or disparaging muslims, suggesting they should be treated differently when it comes to entering this country. that is not just the betrayal of our values. that is the trail of who we are. it would alienate the very communities home and abroad who are the most important partners in the fight against violent extremism. mark: willie, does it help hillary clinton's cause when he goes after donald trump like that? willie: he was feeling the room, to product pauses, everything. help or hurt? i would say when president obama comes out during a republican primary, it helps donald trump. this is the guy we are running against, the reason we are all here. but in a general election, president obama is relatively
popular guy is right all the things donald trump tries to say about the economy, he is not underwater. he is 53%, 52% in gallup readings. president obama helps hillary. mark: i think so too. he will be an incredible force along with joe biden and the first lady. and i do think, and i did not think this until this weekend, i do think she is going to have to do this herself. to some extent, if you are out there with major circuits being great politicians, barack obama, bill clinton, people like that overshadowing, she needs to find the same voice he has and the contrast is stark. even not mentioning trump by name, he is framing it better than her. that is tough for her, but it shows the level she needs to get in. willie: whether she likes it or not, she must protect the legacy. i thought that clip we showed a minute ago with bill clinton to run the economy am a one of my
first thoughts is, shouldn't you be out running the economy instead of leaning on these guys? mark: and he does it with humor. she has to learn that. she is being aggressive but not funny. a lot of names being thrown around now. let's talk about former defense secretary bob gates who went on cbs and "face the nation" to consider working for donald trump. let's say his answer was something short of sherman. bob gates: i learned a long time ago never to say never, but that would be inconceivable to me. there would have to be a conversation with a candidate. willie: he went on to say he was initially unwilling to work for then president-elect barack obama before they met privately and discuss a number of issues including afghanistan, the defense budget, and what kind of team you would hire. so did based on his answer yesterday, do you believe he is open?
mark: just a little bit. i thought of donald trump to get bob gates, chances would go up dramatically, so why not go for it? bob gates has not wanted to work in the government for a long time. he was called back well beyond what he wanted to be in public service. even as he says never say never and he must respect hillary clinton, that was like a want ad, saying anyone got a job for me? i am exaggerating, but if trump could get him and change the rates overnight. willie: he has to go younger, more diverse to offset his laws. on the other hand, donald trump needs somebody that has a steady hand on the wheel. mark: when people talk about maybe you should pick newt gingrich, i think chris christie my instinct, is chris christie
high on the list, they bring stuff to the ticket, but not for a lot of people a sense of stability. the thought of donald trump picking some of the like that hurts his chances rather than help. up next, the great game of the washington post, a new story about nailbiting going on in clinton world. we talk more about that and more after this little mini break. ♪
chance for deleting donald defeating donald trump, including poor showings of young women, unlike ability, and lackluster oil on the stump -- style on the stop. voters clearly favor renegades. thank you for joining us. like most stories, it was reflective of reality and it worries a lot of democrats, but this is true. what has caused the worry that is bubbling up in clinton world? is it their research, things that are outside? where is it coming from? dan: i think it comes from the outside. one is that donald trump is a very conventional candidate. you they look at traditional balancing and say this guy is upside down and all kinds of things. and yet they know he has survived a lot of things that most of the politicians would not have survived. so bernie sanders has been able
to sustain his candidacy throughout this long primary season in ways i don't think a lot of her partisans had anticipated. and third, they recognize that as a candidate, she is not her husband, and she is not barack obama as she has had. they add all of that up, and as peter hart the pollster pointed out, on the scale of likability, which as he said is the lowest bar for a politician to get over, her numbers are worse today that would you start in the campaign a year ago. they add that all together, and they believe she will win the election, but there is no question she has real weaknesses that in one way or another have to be reckoned with. willie: so how does she reversed that over the course of six months, something so intangible like likability?
how can she suddenly become likable? dan: willie, i am not sure she can. one of the people we talked to was dan pfeiffer, a senior advisor to barack obama. he said there are things you can do and other things you can't. if you have an image that is baked in after not just a year of campaigning but a quarter of a century being on the public stage, there is not a lot you can do in a matter of months. there is a couple of things. she is going to have to do a more positive outreach even to some constituencies she ought to have in her back pocket. younger women or independent women. she needs to have more positive things on the table. another reality is that she will have to do the kind of campaign frankly that president obama had to do in 2012. she must disqualify her opponent. the obama campaign went after the romney campaign.
we will try to see that beginning with priorities usa, and there will have to be more of that for it to stick. it is a republican that said to me privately, that if that does not work, she has a real problem on her hands. so we are in for an interesting moment, testing period whether she has things that she has not yet put on the table and whether attacks on donald trump could have a different impact. we know they are both dealing with different electorates. willie: among many remarkable quotes is this one from a longtime supporter of hillary clinton. she is horrible at running but fantastic at governing. that has been out there for people observing from a distance. to hear from the inside is stunning. dan: i think it is a way that people say we think she would make a terrific president if
the hillary clinton we know could be seen by the rest of the country, this would not be a close race. people believe that who are around her, inner circle or whether they are in one of the various outer circles of clinton world. they also recognized she has not been a strong candidate, and they know donald trump has been unusual as a candidate. he has an ability to control the dialogue, the conversation. if she has to be responding to him, which she doesn't want to do, that will make it more difficult. so they are looking for some spark, something she can do to reassure them she can navigate what is going to be an unusual general election. mark: i hate to use a sports metaphor, but i will do it. will she do a long ball, will she have to win this from grinding it out? dan: i don't know the answer to that. everything we know about her, and you know this better than i, she is not a long ball kind of candidate.
that is right, she is an incrementalist. if you want to extend the sports metaphor, she is the woody hayes three yards in a cloud of dust candidate. it is hard for somebody to change the way they operate. all of her instincts tell her to do what has been overtime successful for her. it wasn't in the campaign against barack obama, but in general, that is the way she has gotten ahead. she believes in that. but if it is not working, we may , see a change. mark: i know people don't like the idea of trump as president, but what about as a candidate? dan: they know they are dealing with a wily opponent. they are trying to figure out what is the right way to go back after him, what are his real weaknesses? what can they do to make it more difficult for him to get a total
like pennsylvania, wisconsin, certainly ohio will be a battleground. what can they do in florida where they will start super pac advertising? this is still a work in progress. they do have a primary campaign they still have to run. so she has to concentrate on pushing forward to make sure she can get that done before she can really go after donald trump. mark: great story, thank you so much. up next, a republican congressman gives us his update on the great gop unity project 2016. ♪
he is also trying to become a senator. thank you for joining us. david: you got it, thank you for having me. mark: where do you stand on your own with public deliberations of whether you'll be enthusiastic for donald trump rather than just or him because he is not hillary clinton? david: i am not there yet. i hope donald has the ability to unify the party, truly unify the party by november. but my issues are conservative issues. in addition to tone, it is paying off money, nato, strong policy differences. i can call on him to drop out in november, and i supported another candidate. but he won it fair and square. i do hope by the time we get to
november begin have a unified party. we know hillary clinton's policies, at least on our side, they are wrong for foreign policy. willie: what could donald trump possibly say in the weeks or months that would convince you he is a true conservative? david: i have serious policy concerns. i would like to the those addressed. i mentioned that nato, printing money to pay off national debt, concerns about targeting women and children, bringing back torture. religious tests i don't think is needed. we should have the security test but not a religious test. so one of the reasons i have withheld support as of today is to see who is donald trump in november. to ask me in may whether i will support a candidate in november, not knowing exactly what the platform will be, i am not prepared to do it. will i stand in the way? no. he has won the nomination, they
should look for him for leadership. i hope it is leadership i can support in november, but i am not there yet, and hopefully it gets there. mark: a signature issue was the stop act to create this nexis between incumbency and raising money. incumbents can still raise money under your plan, but they would not be able to ask for campaign contributions. looking at donald trump now, how he has approached fundraising, is he a kindred spirit on these issues? david: willie said, what can donald trump due to get my support? he should endorse the stop act. it is right in line with this movement he is leading. the reason he got many new voters is because he said let's get washington back to work. my stop act says -- members of congress should be prohibited from soliciting campaign contributions for themselves or their party.
a lot of state legislatures do it across the country based on the ballot. the u.s. supreme court has upheld that. it is more congressional reform. instead of spending 20 to 30 hours a week, let's put this phone back down and get to work on issues like border security and immigration reform, tax reform. let's get congress back to work. it is called the stop act. we have a website, stopact.com. i knew the support of everyone to get this over the line. mark: but you only have eight cosponsors. if they were serious about campaign finance reform, they would jump on board with this. i think the american public listens to you and it makes sense. why haven't you found more support in the hall behind you? david: it is seven more than i thought we would have. it is a reflection, a heart breaking reflection on how little actually gets done up
year. it is also heartbreaking on how money controls reelections. i am not criticizing my colleagues, i am giving them room to work on priorities. i mentioned the stop act of a -- when i mentioned the stop act to them, they see the breathing room, they want to be helpful, and any see the reality of big money sink in, and they realize they need to spend their time raising money. and their political survival relies on this. incumbents don't want to talk about it. we are starting a movement. i started hearing from people coast-to-coast, republicans, democratic, get back to work on the issues your constituencies have asked you to work on. we need political leaders, our own leadership in congress and the presidential candidates as well, donald trump, bernie sanders, hillary clinton.
the stop act is one a small step to implement right now, and the -- and then tackle the very complex issue of broad campaign reform. mark: a man on a mission. thank you much. why the clinton campaign is being noticeably silent on the big new york times a story about donald trump's behavior towards and with women. we have kasie hunt on next. ♪
feldman. the you for joining us. kasie you have been tracking the topic about whether hillary clinton and the campaign are reacting to this story. you talked to hillary clinton about it in what we like to call an extended interview. tell us about that. kasie: it was not an extended interview, but she did stop instead of simply moving along. i asked her whether she thought donald trump conducted himself well with women. do you think donald trump has treated women well in the course of his life and business viewings. hillary clinton: i am going to talk about what i want to do as president. so we will draw the contrast is what we got. kasie: so we will draw the contrast is what we got. they don't want to talk about this. she wants to talk about literally everything else there
is to talk about, which she did on the trail today. not that one. that is they are stepping away from. willie: this new york times story, whatever is right for the clinton campaign to use against donald trump, where the even -- why are they not mentioning it in public? mike: this is something i'm not sure secretary clinton on her campaign can take on directly. people will develop a sense for donald trump, his history, his leadership. but i think the campaign is focused on talking about the issues that are relative to voters. you saw the jump on the tax issue because they saw that as material. higher not sure they are in a rush to get there. mark: he suspected this asymmetrical warfare we talked about, which is to say if they start putting their toe in the water of donald trump's personal
life, here he comes back tenfold on theirs. kasie: people are drawing a line in the sand about not responding to personal attacks. you saw that with what they call personal attacks. he saw that with enabler comments. it got awkward in the room with women and children standing in the room. hillary clinton supporters asking about that subject. they are honoring that in their own approach to donald trump at this point. in this particular case, mike is right. if you go to early, it is potentially a problem. they don't think there was a huge bombshell in this new york times story either. if there was of a more clear-cut, you may have seen them make a different calculation. it was a little difficult the way it was presented in the story to come through with a clean headline when they fell the campaign getting involved would be beneficial. mark: in the 2008 campaign, we
reported a lot of big figures were worried about bill clinton's issues. in this case, the establishment has no other backup. they will not turn to bernie sanders. how much do you know about, or does it exist, the possibility of a scandal that will be around the neck of their nominee? mike: i don't detect a lot of concern about that. don't get me wrong. i don't think people were anxious or looking forward to what is ultimately going to become a negative campaign. the clinton campaign and their surrogates are aware that this campaign is going to be no holds barred. but the clinton campaign and secretary clinton in particular, her job is, try to talk about what brand of change she wants to bring to this election to the point you were talking about earlier with dan. make sure people find donald trump's brand of change
unacceptable to a larger number of voters, particularly those open-minded about the outcome of the election. they want to have this campaign not in the mud, not raising personal allegations. there will be plenty of that going on, but that is not where they want to have this fight. mark: you have been around these big campaigns before. if you are inside the hillary clinton campaign right now, despite all the demographic leads, how concerned would you be? mike: i would be very concerned. and by your earlier piece, i and i'm happy people are concerned. they should not be complacent. being concerned is how you win. yes, it is asymmetrical. this campaign will be fought in states that democrats probably have not had to defend in a long time. and it is disorienting. it is probably a healthy thing for the clinton campaign to approach it that way.
they cannot paint by the numbers. nobody thinks that. mark: so in kentucky, they are back with paid media. she is spending a lot of time there. why they feel they might lose, because obviously there is a chance, and what do you think they think the costs are to losing? kasie: a couple things. coal country is really, i think, the fundamental answer. remarks she made in ohio about coal jobs still damaging her here. there are more registered democrats, but a lot of the republicans will vote for federal office. there is a sense in the clinton campaign some of those people may vote for bernie sanders in the democratic primary when they show up, even though they turned around and vote for trump in the general election. the consequences for them is a string of unbroken momentum for sanders and increase sense of
anger from sanders supporters. he saw a bit of it in nevada. they went sideways because bernie sanders' supporters seemed angry that it was rigged on her behalf. there is more resonance that it will have with bernie sanders, the bigger potential of a problem going into philadelphia. there were not be any nervousness they will not clinch the nomination, but the road to be rockier if they do not handle it here for she does not pull out a win. willie: let's say you were ammoral. donald trump calls you, hillary clinton calls you, that he's asking you the same question, what am i doing wrong right now? what would you tell them? mike: i would tell donald trump he cannot win the general election approaching the race he approached it. i mean in terms of
strategically, in terms of running a real presidential campaign. that may work for a narrow slice of the republican electorate. ultimately, it will not work in a general election. he needs to get serious about the campaign. he needs to treat it that way. for secretary clinton, i would say, and they have done a good job, try not to be distracted. this is a long campaign, and ultimately this is talking about what you would do as president of the united states. the electorate is going to change from primary to general electorate, but voting will change. people are looking at these candidates and deciding what kind of president will they be? she needs to remind people why she is qualified and show the brand of change for donald trump is too risky. mark: donald trump trump uses almost exactly the opposite of what you said. a baseball team that wins the penant does not change the way it plays.
mike: far from me to question his instincts. when you lose who he is or how he has established a brand as a credible voice or someone that speaks his mind. i don't think you can win a general election campaign for president of the united states by winging it. there are people around him telling in the same thing. mark: what is the feel out there with the candidates and the campaign? is it buoyant and optimistic, or between sanders and trump, off-key or off-base? kasie: secretary clinton herself seems to be looking forward to running against trump in a competitive way. she is competitive, and people are saying that. there is a wariness about how this will play out. you are seeing caution in particular. mark: thank you both.
have before the accident. i tell people something they find hard to believe, and that is my life is better after the accident that put me in this wheelchair. i am closer to god, i am closer to my wife. i am closer to understanding the reality of why we are really here. we are all here for a purpose. and that is in our own unique way, to shape the world in which we live. i comprehend that purpose are -- far deeper now been i did before the accident. mark: we spoke earlier about the 10th amendment to read i want to ask you about the balance of washington and the state. the current problem that needs fixing you write about, which of those fixed should be part late fixed by washington and which are the states? greg: they should all be fixed by washington, but they are incapable. the most profound example is the one question you asked. look at the way the president has unilaterally rewritten the laws of the country. the way it has been set up, it is supposed to be the members of congress who write the laws.
but that is not the way it works. you will not believe this. more than 90% of the laws issued by the federal government are never even voted on by the united states congress. so we americans are living under the dictate of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats. that must change, and congress has not shown the background to -- the backbone to do that. that is why the states must lead the way. mark: so people say there is the governor of texas, i and not interested in politicians' books. explain who this is targeted to. greg: the grassroots people. looking at bernie sanders campaign, you see people who are fed up with washington, have been there a long time, can i -- cannot get the job done. they are a part of the problem. the solution is not invented by many. it was invented by james
madison, alexander hamilton. at the very beginning, the states have a vibrant role to play in america. the current washington, d.c. has destroyed the role of states in america. it is time we returned power in this country to where it belongs, and that is the states. mark: you have a lot of constituents supporting donald trump. have you talked to their decisions? greg: i have not. mark: what would you tell them? greg: it would be presumptuous to tell a former president -- let me tell you what i tell my fellow texans. that is, not voting does nothing but empower hillary clinton. we face dire threats, dire results to this country if hillary clinton is elected. the supreme court is the tipping point. if hillary appoints the successor to scalia and other justices, the supreme court will
be beyond the point of return. so sitting out is not an option. if you don't want to vote for trump, go vote against hillary. mark: how do you see this playing out between now and november? greg: people are going to come to grips with the reality. hillary clinton is the worst version of barack obama, and they are fed up with that approach. i think they will reject hillary clinton. mark: and so, will trump win easily? greg: i think he will. mark: talking about things you are not expecting, best tacos in austin are where? greg: they got to be at madi's, breakfast tacos. i am a 24/7 breakfast taco guy. mark: those are pretty good. the correct answer was torchy's, thank you for playing.
uber good or bad? greg: good. it provides options or americans. and that is a good thing. mark: what is the greatest movie ever made? greg: i am going to go with an answer you will not expect. and i want to explain the answer before i tell you. mark: if your answer is "austin powers," i am not surprised. greg: it is a movie that connect me with my daughter, who was of -- who i love dearly. we used to go to the movies every friday. it transcends generations, "shrek." mark: that is good.
mark: check out bloomberg politics ahead of the primary contest. coming up, former ceo shopkick. saying thanks to this gentleman, willie geist, who composited on his maiden voyage. willie: longtime viewer, first-time hoster, i will be back. mark: that is what we like to hear. thank you for watching. we are all back tomorrow with more primaries in oregon and kentucky. until then for willie geist, for me, the entire team at eyewitness, same bad time, same bad channel, sayonara. ♪
>> good morning. this is trending business. first, here is what we are watching this morning. asia-pacific stocks are rising pickupecond day, and the in commodity prices is helping global equities as well. nearly $2yearly may, saw trillion wiped off. oil trading near six-month high ahead of u.s. government