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hold the baltimore police accountable in the death of freddie gray. they cleared the officer in the assault and other charges in the arrest of gray. the six other officers charged in the case with a separate trials over the coming months. in new york, donald trump met with u.s. senator bob corker. the tennessee republican was asked of trump was considering him for a running mate or for a cabinet position. >> i have no response whatsoever. i will say that until i am blue in my face. getting to know each other and that is it. mark: austria's far right has conceded defeat in the presidential race. an independent back by the green party.
tried toarty candidate capitalize on public concerns about immigration. day,l news, 24 hours a powered by our 2400 journalists around the world. i am mark crumpton. "bloomberg west" is next. ♪ emily: i am emily chang, and this is "bloomberg west." big on boulder, brighter screens with bigger batteries. it is not coming until next year. plus, baidu behind the wheel. will the chinese search engine's advances in ai help the market in driverless cars?
china's propaganda machine cranks out nearly 500 million posts a year. we will break down a new study from harvard that analyzes the marching orders. first, to our lead. news that apple is betting on a new screen for iphones in 2017. fromew screen will be made , which is more flexible and energy-efficient. samsung and sharp are saying they are investing. apple is an investor in all of them. they say orders to make the screens are up 40%. but will this mean for iphone sales after apple's first sales declined in 14 years? len ourdiscuss, alex bloomberg news apple reporter, and from new york, ceo of three ist. -- of thrill
what do we know? >> we know that orders have been placed to make this stuff, basically. for the iphone 8. there have been rumors swirling year, inill come next the 2015 phone. last week, applied materials. they said, we are getting massive orders. emily: everyone has been waiting for the new iphone. it is not until the iphone 8. what does this mean for apple? >> the challenge you have got, that means, this year, let's slow our expectations even further. this is the kind of technology that people are going to be looking forward to. ed in their had o-l
phones for four or five years already. what apple was very good at is taking existing technology and doing the best possible job. i was at a display conference this morning, and apple was the winner. apple will do a great job with this, but the question is if it can be different enough even in 2017. emily: talk to us about the real difference between oled and lcd. since i have been making phones with oled for a wild out. they started making oled tvs but they pulled back because it was difficult to manufacture. >> it is the implications that are important and interesting, namely that the screen is lower energy and thinner. that could potentially create more space for a battery from which less power is needed.
is, my batterye dies inside a day. there are other things you might be able to do. perhaps creates augmented or virtual reality. emily: what does this mean for the cost of the phone? one of apple's problems is that phones are still too expensive for a lot of people. significantlyens increase the cost? i don't think that will be a huge issue for them. i think what we will see is the ability to do foldable, even potentially bendable. you can do a shatterproof phone. the other big problem people have is they drop their phone. thissaves you from having crack screen dilemma that many people have had to face. emily: will these be
shatterproof? bob: no guarantee that it will, but it is an opportunity. there are a lot of questions about what they are going to do with it. there is potential, so is the ability to do a radical design where you have a foldable, mechanical display that grows. there are amazing things you could potentially do. it is not clear they will do that even in the first generation. have built you companies on the back of the iphone, invested in companies. when apple comes with a dramatically different formfactor, how does that impact companies on that and? ben: there is always a rush to kind of get on the back of the new things apple is doing, whatever that is. every company has to move with apple will only put their promotional power behind
companies that are leaning into the things that are important to them. i think, with the new screen, it totally depends on what the form factor is. will this be a totally new size? will you have to rewrite all the code you have written for your apps? what does that look like? i think everyone will have to respond, but it totally depends on what it is they are launching. emily: we did speak to gary dickerson, the ceo of applied materials, which makes the net -- makes the machinery that manufactures oled display technology. they recorded a 400% increase in orders for this type of machinery. take a listen to what he has to say. grexit really is the change in the mobile products to organic led displays. what we're going to see is a huge transition over the next couple of years that will drive
a massive change going from lcd to organic led, flexible displays. at the same time, we are hearing analysts say that the iphone as he is getting a lot of -- the iphone se is getting a lot of pick up. they need to have a broader range of products and have had. they have to have lower end .roducts they have to have the upper red to maintain capabilities. is thatrn long-term apple becomes the premier device maker in the post device world. , you'reen lerer sticking with me for the hour. now, to a story we're following.
google's lead lawyer describes the copyright infringement case that could deliver one of the largest verdicts in u.s. history. he showed the jury a menu with just hamburger written on it. he likened it to the programming oracle claims google stole to build its android operating system. his message dance putting the word berger on a net -- his message, putting a burger on the menu is not unique, it is what you put behind that. coming up, the search engine racing to commercialize a self driving car by 2018 and betting on game changing voice technology. i am talking about baidu.
emily: baidu, the chinese internet giant, is making great strides in developing ai tools that they say could power the next generation of search and smart devices. baidu also says it will have a driverless car on the road by 2018, ready for purchase. i had a chance to catch up with baidu's chief scientist andrew ng. ng believes ai will be as revolutionary as electricity. baidu hasthink that had a different approach to self driving cars and other companies. let's say you were driving along and there is a construction worker on the road. if a construction worker does that, you should stop. the behavior is totally opposite based on the subtle hand gesture.
no ai system today can reliably distinguish between stop and go. modest changes like giving the wireless -- giving the construction worker a wireless beacon. >> you are planning to test your cars in china, i think in the u.s. as well. what are the differences in how the drivers work in those two countries? andrew: drivers in china are incredibly aggressive. i was in a car on my way to the airport a couple of weeks ago. there were five cars driving side-by-side. what our cars are learning, but it is a more challenging environment. emily: are you still on track to have driverless cars on the road in two years? andrew: we are still on track for late 2018. you make this
available for automakers and auto partners, and how will you show the data between your self driving cars and the automaker? andrew: we are very focused on developing a technology right now. we work with bmw last year. i hope we will continue to create tons of value. emily: you have a personal assistant. what are your ambitions with that? andrew: one of the things i'm really excited about his voice-based communication. the whole world is moving to cell phones. i think that if you can talk to your cell phone rather than type on a keyboard, it will be transformative of the way we interact with technology. i think that most people recognize the difference between 95% accurate speech definition and 99%. 99% is a game changer.
since the beginning of last ofr, we have seen a number voice interactions triple. i think we will see a rapid uptick invoice going forward. 99%, isce you get to that good enough that you can sell it to businesses and sell that speech recognition? andrew: one of the things we're trying to think through his how to offer it to other companies. partnerships and so on. with ai ischallenges that, at least right now, it often takes skilled ai people together with skilled building expertise, and have those teams work together. emily: there are reports that deep speech 2 can transcribe chinese language is better than
a person. dataw: five years of audio , transcribe audio data. this is a staggering amount of data for our system to learn from. emily: is it possible to do the same for english? obviously, the chinese written language is so much more complicated than the english written language. when we get to a point where machines actually are better at transcribing voice that humans --it still seems like, based on the english language assistance that i have worked with, it is a long way off. andrew: in terms of transcribing word by word, short phrases are superior to a human. but it turns out the mistakes a machine makes affect the meaning more, where a human gets a few
words wrong but the underlying meaning is still there. we're working on it, and i hope our english performance will keep rapidly improving. emily: any plans to take on amazon echo or google home? amazon has done a very nice job on this current echo product. it is still not clear, i think. one of the interesting things about voice technology is that it could actually challenge different business models. voice shaking up the way that you guys currently make money? and thei think baidu leading tech companies are seeing voice input as a direction that we must do well in. this thing transformed the whole tech industry. i think htc might have been the first touchscreen.
because it was a fundamental new way for us to interact with computers. i think that speech recognition has an equal opportunity to be transformative. jack: how do we monetize this? how would that change the type of adverts you are serving to me? that, by believe making things more convenient , i believe that will cause users to use it more frequently. i think it is a little bit early to call. emily: that was baidu chief scientist andrew ng and our bloomberg news reporter jack clark. chinese gaming giant 10 sent may in talks abouts selling super cell, the mobile game maker.
thank you so much for joining us. give us an overview of the company. how many different tests do you have now? >> we have three tests on the market. family practice or parents who are having kids, informed pregnancy screens for women in their first trimester, and our .ewly inherited cancer tests emily: how does this set you apart from other countries -- other companies on the market? ramji: where increasing our panel size to about 36 genes in total. we are able to offer some of the highest coverage of genes. emily: what is the range of costs and how much does insurance cover? ramji: the co-pay, if you don't have insurance, it is $349.
if you are working with your insurance company, this is often the preventive service, so there is a price estimation. i had a friend who did a test like this, and his wife credits it to saving her life. she had of having a double mastectomy -- she ended up having a double mastectomy. are you guys getting tons of data back that this is saving lives on a regular basis? how do you know it is working and what kind of feedback are you getting? ramji: great question. these are very comprehensive tests. as -- in are as good the hands of a physician and patient, physicians and patients can make really informed and educated decisions. we are providing this information to physicians and patients, who are ultimately the ones to make this decision.
a woman who could potentially do ratherhable mastectomy than a lumpectomy after a diagnosis. time, we are collecting more and more data about how people use the information. we surveyed patients and found out that 67% of them chose to do a different type of reproductive option after finding out this information. we presented at the american college of genetics. these are genes that are already recommended to be offered by some of the national cancer conference of network. physicians understand, if you are positive for these genes, how they ought to be used in terms of guiding and diagnosis. you are moving very quickly, and i know there is a lot of excitement in this space. you guys in lay off a couple dozen people earlier this year and said it was to increase the
efficiency of operations. what happened there? ramji: it was a tough decision. we were ultimately redoubling our focus on medical market. we are focusing more on women's health, oncology, and continuing to increase not only our commercial footprints, but also our health plan footprints as well. it is obviously very different companies, but when talking about health regulators, regulators, the other company is obviously everyone's first thought. ramji: for us, it has been very strong. we are an open book when it comes to scientific publications. we publications are regularly. we are very committed to open and transparent science. also, to the point about genetic
screening, i think we're still very early. this is not credit cards or smartphones everybody has one. any means.aturation ultrasound for women who are having kids, the mammography for cancer screening as well. , thank you forn joining us. coming up, we will take a look at china's online propaganda machine. and your study shows hundreds of social media poster coming from government workers. plus, what are some of the biggest names in tech advising the graduating class of 2016? ♪
weapons sales to be on. it is one of the last symbols of wartime animosity between the two countries. pres. obama: this change will ensure that the has -- that vietnam has the weapons to defend itself. the: he made clear that u.s. was aligned with smaller nations like vietnam. russian president vladimir putin to hisring assurances syrian counterpart, bashar al-assad. toexpressed readiness continue supporting what he called syrian partners. a series of coordinated explosions today left more than 80 people dead. the iraqi prime minister is praising a military operation to retake falluja from the islamic state. the city's west of baghdad and has been under control devices for nearly two years -- under control of isis for nearly two
years. a claim in georgia that prosecutors kept african-americans off the jury. timothy foster was convicted of killing a white woman in 1986. from bloomberg world headquarters in new york, i am mark crumpton. it is 8:30 tuesday morning in sydney. paul: good morning. u.s. stocks slipped, crude oil slipped. new zealand, that is slipping, too. we're expecting things to be flat on the nikkei and the asx in australia. locally, the iron ore prices likely to be a driver after a swift 6.7% overnight. that is after chinese iron ore stockpiles broke through the hundred million ton barrier, and that has likely drive the miners
in australia lower. in japan, the air maker to, have haveded -- takata expanded their recalls once again. these are toyota cars. off 74% since november. some interesting central banking speeches today. james bullard of the u.s. that here, glennd also stevens will speak to an audience in sydney. markets will be watching both of those statements closely to see when rates might go up in the u.s. and the possibility of a cut here in australia. ♪ emily: welcome back to "bloomberg west." facebook has sent a response to u.s. senator john soon, who
complain about the controversy surrounding the trending topics section. facebook says they have conducted an investigation into what happened with trending topics. they show that investigation showed no evidence of systematic political bias. allege thatts facebook d prioritized conservative leaning news stories. facebook says they can't fully exclude possible unintentional bias, but they showed no systematic bias as a result of their investigation. they are adding some new rules and oversight around trending topics. we will continue to bring you any more updates as we get them. facebook coming out and saying that, officially, as their investigation showed, there was no evidence of systematic political bias. to another story we're following. longhinese government has
been accused of using an army of propaganda workers online to sway public opinion. a new harvard study claims the chinese government now billiones nearly half a social media comments a year. to discuss, gary king, a professor at harvard. also still with us, ben lerer. professor king, explained your methodology and how your able to deduce that these posts were indeed written by government hires and not by ordinary people. gary: we found about 488 million posts fabricated a year by the chinese government. what we did is we found an archive of e-mails from the people writing these posts, reporting to the propaganda department. we found detailed patterns and pictures and photographs and who .verybody was following
when we figured out exactly what everyone was doing, where they were posting it, and who they were, we were able to extrapolate it to the rest of china. we also did a survey. we asked them in a very specific way whether they were actually doing this. unlike most surveys, we actually had a gold standard, because we can ask people who we knew for sure were doing this, and we got exactly the same patterns. we can confirm this is actually the case. emily: they did or they did not confirm to you they were indeed hired by the government? gary: they did confirm in exactly the same way as people that we knew were hired by the government because of this linked archive. we got exactly the same pattern. we knew for sure that our extrapolation to the rest of china from this one linked archive of posts and of people, where we found 43,000 known 50
cent party posts. those are written by people in the government and posted in other people's names on various social media sites all over china. emily: it is interesting looking at the way that these breakdown. taunting them down by a foreign government, disputing a factual reporting, not argumentative praise or suggestion, and cheerleading for china. if you read some of the examples -- "china's rise is now inevitable" or "china has done a lot of positive things." these aren't incredibly extreme posts in any way. it is really interesting, because what everybody got previously, including activists, journalists, activists --
journalists, academics, people on social media, they all thought one thing and it all turned out to be wrong. they thought they were arguing against the people who were against the government. party people would jump in and argue against them. that is what we thought. it turns out that is completely wrong. what it is these people do is not that. what they do is distract. they surely force -- they cheer lead for symbols of the state. they distract. it makes a lot of sense if you think about it. if you are having a big argument with your kids or your spouse, a really bad way of ending the argument is coming up with a really good counterargument. that is not going to end the argument. a much better way to end the argument is to say, let's go out to ice cream. it turns out, that is the logic of what the chinese government is doing. emily: are you saying it is
working? gary: i don't often is working, but it certainly makes a lot of sense. what they are doing is not only .riting 488 million posts about half of them go on government social media websites, about half of them go into commercial websites. there is a large number of social media websites for china. there they have a small number of large ones and a very large number of small ones. on the commercial side, it is like one of every 174 social media posts. they are not just shouting into the wind. they are usually in bursts. whenever they need it, if there is some kind of protest activity they want to distract people from, they will send in the 50 cent party people. this is not really a political party, just a name people use for this activity. ben: this feels very donald trump to me.
i would love to hear his comments on all of this. this is the kind of insanity that i think we are sort of vaguely heading towards here. gary: you should invite him on and ask. a great idea. i am not doing the booking this week, unfortunately. gary: the chinese government, of course, also censors posts. they read almost all the social media posts that appear on the web and they decide which ones to take down. this is another activity that is even less visible than that. emily: fascinating study. gary king, professor of government at harvard university. thank you for joining us. ben lerer, you are sticking with me for the rest of the hour. first, i want to talk about, here in the united states, the class of 2016 is officially entering the job market. before they make that big leap,
some advice from some of the biggest names in tact. we have put together some of our favorite commencement speeches. >> deep inside of all of us, all of us, there is a primal desire to do something important with our lives. >> the easy days ahead of you will be easy. it is the hard days, the days that challenge you to your very core, that will determine who you are. >> my biggest problem was taking a track without thinking really hard about where it was going. >> each of you have a chance to discover who you are rather than who you should be. >> you need to discipline yourself, to cultivate it and care for it. >> when tragedy strikes, know that you have deep within you the ability to get through anything. >> in this moment in your life, you know pure limit, pure
taboos. do not squander your ignorance. >> when people start telling you you are crazy, you just might be onto the most important innovation in your life. >> not taking failures personally allows us to recover and even thrive. >> live each day as if you will live forever. >> that is how precious everyday actually is. >> it might take a while, but keep searching until you find a job that ignites your passion. >> with the challenges,, i hope you remember that, deep within you is the ability to learn and grow. sheryl sandberg, larry ellison, and peter thiel. coming up, we talked the latest facebook developments. ♪
emily: now to a developing story. facebook's internal investigation shows no evidence of systematic political bias in trading articles. the company did make some changes to guidelines, that will remove the ability to -- improve the ability to revise and -- revised importance levels for trending topics. what is saying, what is changing? >> the most important changes that these top 10 news sites that facebook was relying on to know if a topic was trending or not, they are just eliminating that practice entirely. now, it doesn't need to be listed on the new york times and buzz feed and the wall street journal in order to be noted as trending. when conservatives were looking
at that list of sites, they found that some of those were a little bit liberal leaning. the other thing is that they are making it very clear in their guidelines that there can be no political bias, no decisions can be made based on political affiliation. emily: reading the posts coming out of facebook, they say "will emanate our reliance on external news websites and outlets to validate the success of trending topics. this means we will discontinue the use of the top 10 list of trending topics." ben lerer is still with us. then, you guys are investors in buzz feed. what are your thoughts. i think about it first i appreciate that i am not getting slammed over the news that i want and i understood the trending topics to be personalized to me and my
needs. the a business perspective, idea that you don't have to have a story validated by mainstream media is fine. i think it will get smaller publishers the opportunity to get noticed and push stories up there. i don't think there will be a huge impact one way or the other. generally, the idea of the content that you are getting is personalized to you is important. it doesn't sound like this is going to jeopardize that in any way. it is key that they don't feel like they need to go and cram republican stuff down my throat when i don't want that in my feed. emily: thanks so much for breaking the news for us. i do want to talk a little bit more about was feed and the future of media. this is something you have been thinking a lot about. one of the things we're noticing is that companies like buzz feed have you arehat finding themselves under the
umbrella of old-school media companies, whether it is comcast or disney. what is your take on this model? are there any risks? ben: i think right now we are seeing an interesting moment in media, which is a mirror image of 30 years ago. 30 years ago, with the popularization of cable television, you saw a whole lot of content creators emerge in a very small window of time. the reason for that was that were building on these new pipes. in 10 or 15 years, you saw everything from hbo to espn to turner, mtv, they all launched at once, filling in the pipes that were sort of popularized back then. today, we had a similar thing happening, the new pipes for content discovery are facebook, google, snapchat. there is a real opportunity, and there is a group of content
companies like the ones you mentioned, as well as other ones, that are built to figure out how to distribute content in this new way. i think these guys are building a lot of value. it is a really interesting time to be investing in great quality content. that being said, there is always consolidation that happens. that happened in the 80's, and you saw the espns of the world ultimately get owned or consolidated. i think you will see the same here, where a bunch of these new media companies will get bought by the older guys. some will band together and build bigger media companies. what he saw happened last time was the height owners, some of up -- the pipe owners ended owning the content. will the snapchat's and facebook's of the world get into owning some of these media brands? emily: given some of the trending story controversy, how
much sway does facebook have in king making the future leaders of media? ben: facebook's power right now in the media landscape is unimaginable. just the changes they have made to prioritizing video, now live video over the past three months, have thrown the publishing industry for a total loop. traditional tv is scrambling to figure out what to make of this new super kingmaker. facebook looks like 10 cable companies combined back in the day. the question is how they will use that power. traditionally, they have behaved well. i think they appreciate the importance of great content. they understand that great content is what makes facebook valuable. if there is a great stuff going through their pikes, they are -- their pipes, they are less important at the end of the day. so far, what they have done with instant articles, and now what
ceo mark me, jefferies walker. you experimented with pop-up stores, as i understand it. -- not have visible stores? physical stores? mark: it takes a lot of inventory people to run brick and mortar stores. we had one pop-up when we launched our new line in october. it was more about awareness then selling the product. thats, the reality was back in january we were talking about this death spiral, where it is not about the product or the experience, it is about who can be the loudest about discount. we said, let's step back and really do something for the customer, make the experience amazing, and given a product that they want a format that they want. we feel really confident about the line we launched in october.
we feel that the last kind of standing leg on brick and mortar is guys who like to go to the mall, take 10 or 15 things into the fitting come and pick the seven or eight they want to buy. is, iflogy that we use you handcuff somebody and make them walk around the store and send you just have to look at it and pick it out, that is the experience that a lot of the curb -- e-commerce sites use. emily: a lot of e-commerce sites are struggling now. if you look at what happened group, theygilt did this early have the greatest outcome. mark: we are a product company, we sell clothing. we create our own line of clothes and we stand behind the quality. now, what we're trying to do is say that we believe in the product so much that we are taking all of the friction out of the experience. a lot of other companies use things like free shipping as a
carrot or incentive. for us, we feel so good about our stuff that we never charge for shipping, outdoor back. we have updated our packaging -- out or back. we've updated our packaging so that you put the box and a rern label and you leave it out. it is really about simplicity and ease, and just getting the clothes to the consumer. and a lot of others are about nickel and dining the customer. emily: ben, you are chairman of jack threads, how has it been going since and what does it mean for the future? ben: this is a big move for the company. you are totally right to highlight fab and gilt as companies that didn't have great outcomes. i challenge the team at the end of last year to go back and look at everything that was happening in retail. it is a bloodbath out there.
think about what we can do to stand up from the crowd. at the end of the day, we said that we will take every penny that we have and a bunch of pennies that we don't have and reinvest those into the customer. there was one interesting metric, which was that 65% of our guys were buying with debit cards. we realize that they literally couldn't afford to buy the things they wanted from us and that we were cutting ourselves off at the needs -- japanese. -- at the knees. emily: thank you so much for joining us. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪
>> cityr studios in new york this is charlie rose. rose: morley safer, a friend of a longtime colleague died on thursday at his home in manhattan. of death was pneumonia. he was 84. safer was the longest-serving correspondent in 60 minutes history. for five decades he produced at hundred 19 reports. he traveled more than 200,000 miles a year. he exposed fraud and investigate a crime.