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charlie: we begin this evening with a look at president obama's foreign policy. the president made history in hanoi where he announced the u.s. would lift a decades-long arms embargo on vietnam. pres. obama: this change will ensure that they have access to the equipment needed to offend itself and removes it lingering vestige of the cold war. it also underscores the commitment with united states are fully normalized relationship with vietnam going strong defense ties with vietnam and this region for the
long-term. .> the president the visit comes at a moment of renewed concern over the regional aspirations and it raises questions about the u.s. pivot to asia as recent developments threaten to divert his focus once again. the white house confirmed that a u.s. john strike had killed the leader of the afghan taliban. investigators continue to probe whether egypt flight 804 was brought on by a terrorist. joining me from washington is tom donlon, he was national security adviser for president obama from 2010 to 2013. tom, welcome. what this trip is about in the significance of vietnam. >> as you said, this is the president's 10th trip to asia and it's part of what is become known as the rebalanced asia which is one of the most important geostrategic initiatives of this residency. it's rooted in the belief that
the future of asia and the united states are tightly tied together going into the 21st century. it involves investment across the board in terms of all elements of national power. diplomatic security and military. and in terms of his time which is the most important asset that the president has they in and day out. it is meant to reinforce the leadership role that the united states plays in asia. it is meant to extend the fact that the united states has provided the platform for their social economic development for records of a century. the president came into office believing we were underinvested in his gun about increasing the investment. the vietnam peace is an important part of the rebalanced. involves a lot more attention and engaging with our allies but also with emerging in asia and vietnam and
involves a rebalancing of overwhelming emphasis. vietnam we have had for the last 20 years and increasingly close relationship. this takes it as the president said to a new level and really pointed towards being fully engaged in a normalized relationship. in the summeram of 1995 on the trip where we reestablished relations. we raise the flag over the embassy in hanoi. it's been a long processing. president clinton was there in 2000. bush and 43 went there in 2006 in a president obama is there trying to get a farley -- a fully normalized relationship and to take advantage of the fact that they've indicated they're ready to engage in the deepest partnership. charlie: we are giving arms. what are they giving to us? >> it's a fully engaged
relationship. vietnam is one of the fastest growing economies in the world and an important place for investments like the united states. they've engaged in a much closer security relationship with the states in a variety of ways. in 2014 we made a decision the united states did to provide maritime assets to vietnam. what this is is deepening the security relationship between the nine states and vietnam is also getting rid of a cold war vestige. this doesn't mean that the floodgates are going to open up for arms sales to vietnam automatically or right away. each arms sale have to be looked at on its own merit and a different cause of conditions can be applied including human rights conditions. the insight here is that the no longerull ban serves u.s. interests. the asian policy
director said president obama just give them a reward that they did not deserve. >> i disagree with that. it's the right balance for the united states to strike. keyave an obviously strategic interest in asia and southeast asia in particular. we've a strategic relationship and across the board. an opportunity here to use the leverage of potential additional security relationships to leverage further progress on human rights. i'm not here to defend the human rights record. i do think informed about it could but it does provide us with additional leverage going forward. and really important is that this is a strategic step that takes into account's all those elements i mention >> to we raise the question of human rights. >> toiling can has said in a
speech in may last month that there has been some progress on human rights. anywhere in relationship condition on more progress in human rights. >> a has been some progress but i don't think we should overstate that progress with respect to the regime in vietnam . the has been progress in terms tween theationship unstated vietnam and the security economic and other areas which are important to us. we talked about the top of the conversation. to rebalance asia is critical. in asia, isagement providing this platform to balance and provide assurance, particularly in the face of a rising china, it's critical to continue the stability and a collect progress in asia. and last as i said with respect to vietnam.sales those can be conditioned on human rights. so there is some opportunity here for leverage.
i wouldn't overstate the progress but i would try to put in the context of the whole relationship in the strategic interests of the united states. >> i left out japan and talking about the number of countries we look to to have good relations not to contain china but the same time to have a presence there. what do they expect from us with respect to aggressive behavior by china russian mark -- china? >> they expect the knotted states to be present. they expect them to keep their alliance obligations. they expect us to continue to provide the nuclear umbrella we have provided. in the region. for three quarters of a century. this is a thought experiment. think about what it looks like absent the u.s. engagement here. --er prime minister abbe prime minister abe, the alliance has been is deep and intense as it ever has been. in the present will also visit the memorial at hiroshima.
>> an attack on japan and attack on south korea, and on any other country that will be met with what kind of response? >> not any other country, the alliance countries. point, we would stand together to defend against any attack and what is that do? that makes the likelihood of any such attack much lower. the fact that you would have to face the united states in a situation like that makes the percentage chances of such an attack much lower. keep stability in the region at a much higher level than it otherwise would be. >> there is one thing clear. no military in asia including the chinese military could ever hope to take on the united states. >> at the same time they have been aggressive actions. >> that come too close to our ships they buzzed our planes. many americans are saying how
far can they go. in one case russia and china without us as funding, other than simply protesting diplomatically. >> in asia, russia is a different circumstance. we have overall generally constructed productive relations but china has been very aggressive in the south china sea and there are disputes in the south china sea that involve a number of countries, including vietnam, by the way. severalfold.nk is one is for the united states to remain present and we are going to increase the percentage of our overall aviation and naval assets. it is important for the united states a to enforce these key principles. the settlement of disputes by peaceful means. international law is the way forward.
the united states has in the last year been quite present and has engaged in freedom of navigation exercises. it is important for the united states to be present and reinforce these principles. a couple years ago the chinese tried to put in place or declare an aviation zone. the united states says we will not recognize it. we flew through it and that has gone away. it is important for us to maintain this balance and reassurance in southeast asia. problem looming in asia is north korea. >> it's hard to know and ascertain exactly what the north korean leader is doing. should we expect the chinese to do more?
with these belligerent acts by the north koreans should we expect more from the chinese have the better relationship? >> i don't know about the quality of the relationship. they certainly have more leverage. the relationship between the chinese leadership and can -- kim jong-un has deteriorated in the chinese have expressed frustration about that. he has not been invited to beijing nor has the chinese leadership been to pyongyang. that yes the chinese have the most leverage. in chinese have engaged pushing north koreans not to engage and some of the more outrageous provocations they have been engaged in. the chinese after this last set of provocations did go to the u.n. with us and put in place the strongest sanctions that have ever been put on north korea. >> the problem is this is not a
test to the u.s. china relationship. could we have to enforce these sanctions and there are some loopholes that have to be closed . and they have to be squeezed here. it has to be some price tags for the path they are on. it's an seemingly dangerous. it's accommodation of continuing to develop missile technology. including their goal of developing missile technology that could reach the night it states of developing more nuclear weapons and miniaturized nuclear weapons it can be put on these missiles that could reach the night states. that's an intolerable situation for u.s. president to face and that's a conversation with the chinese. charlie: what is the red line? ? i hesitate to draw a specific redline but as north korea moves toward having a capability where weapond launch a nuclear
against the united states the united states will do a number of things. they will deepen the relationship with japan and south korea. secretary ash carter has already said that this is going to happen. we are going to have to build up more intensive missile defense systems there. more exercises more presence more pressure including i think regime threatening kinds of sentience. so what is the chinese reaction to that? the chinese reaction to that is negative. the building up intensive and more extensive missile defense systems becoming more deeply involved militarily and it makes the chinese more strategically uncountable. that's the conversation because we say to the chinese leadership and i've had these conversations as you know, this is not about you. this is not aimed at you, this is aimed at the regime in pyongyang and we have to take steps to protect ourselves. what are going to do together and what are you going to do pacific league to get these guys off the path they are on because it's unacceptable.
i think it's the biggest security threat in asia right now. the next president will probably face a crisis. >> the president told me in germany when i went to interview him -- he said essentially what you just said witches they are even looking at the most technologically new developments in terms of nuclear shields that they can possibly develop. >> this is the conversation that the united states is having and it needs to have more intensively with china. i also think we need to engage with china. have been reluctant to do this and you can understand some of the reasons for this. they need to talk about what happens there if in fact he had a collapse of that regime. we do have these deeper conversations with the chinese. and in the year 2017 the key test of the u.s. china relationship is going to be what are we going to do about north korea. >> let me make one last question about china. not aa private citizen
member of the government as you are at the highest level. the mindset ofss she jinping. question and ag lot of people are working on that everyday. i think a couple of things. the key observation i would have is number one he has amassed a terminus amount of power at the center in beijing right in his office across a number of issues . number two, he faces tremendous pressure. they are trying to undertake one of the great economic social transformations ever attempted in history to move from this export-investment-led economy to a more domestic and consumption-driven economy. and he is trying to do with national trends which he in some way has put in motion.
what do i think the most important thing he thinks about every day, how to maintain control. how to maintain that monopoly control at the commonest party has in china. because you think that's the way ahead for them in terms of the development and reforms that they have to have. let'sk he sits there and do another thought experiment. if we can see the thought bubble over his head like a cartoon, it would say, i'm not going to be gorbachev. i'm not going to give up communist party control as we go through economic development. charlie: they essentially made that decision along time ago when they decided to focus on economic change rather than political change but clearly he is aware how there is pressure against the party so he fights corruption and tries to make the party more efficient so it can maintain the kind of control that it has. >> that's corruption
anticorruption effort in china is vast. hundreds of thousands of cases. . the pressure at home that he has and variousty organizations has been intense. the trunk to consolidate control of the communist party to ensure that it continues as they try to go through these various conditions that we talked about witches extraordinarily challenging for this country and for him personally. >> seems to me that as the president with his presence in asia was to enhance that relationship across the board he wanted to pivot from the middle east as it was expressed, you were part of that idea. and yet he gets drawn back in. back in in terms of the taliban and afghanistan. in terms of iraq and supporting the prime minister. back in syria because of the events there and the inability
to figure out by anybody in alternative to. >> i'd say a couple things about that. the night states is a global power with global interest and we have responsibilities around the world. absent u.s. leadership and action these situations would not be addressed. second is that he has been demonstrable he determined to not just -- we have to deal with these problems where we try to manage the security threat like afghanistan but to keep his eye on where the opportunities are as in asia. to keep his eye on the most important relationships which is clearly the chinese-u.s. relationship going forward. having said that, there is a big difference between us -- we have about 10,000 troops now in afghanistan supporting the afghan government and taking action principally against isis and al qaeda. and having 150,000 troops there. >> in afghanistan is that the threat.
>> in afghanistan a threat is the taliban. they are the ones occupy the territory and are moving to places+++ >> the talib on have been -- the taliban has picked up additional territory in afghanistan and they have had relentless insurgent effort and the afghan security forces have taken a lot of casualties. the been under a lot of pressure. what this action against him was a couple elements. it was a signal to the talib and that they should come to the table with respect to the peace talks that have been fledgling for the last couple of years there and it's a signal that in fact the united states is going
to act when it sees itself and nato allies under threat from the taliban. not just the threat from al qaeda and isis. the united states is under threat by the actions of the talib and in a number of instances including an kabul where there was a massive bombing in april that killed 55 people or so. and it is a message to pakistan that the united states will continue to act against taliban leadership in pakistan if they continue to threaten u.s. and nato forces and if they don't show any interest in coming to the peace table. the action is part of that analysis. >> does this say that the united states is prepared to do whatever it has to do and pakistan is the longer a safe haven for the taliban? >> a not so sure that if we had been able to target the senior afghan leadership the four that we would not have taken action against them. it is important to underscore
that if a group continues to states and oured nato allies that they will be subject to attack by the united states and the president has made that clear from the time he ran for office. with respect to al qaeda where he ran in 2008 and said if we knew where osama bin laden was, even if he were in another country that we would not hesitate to take unilateral action against him. trolley boy the president has sentannounced that he special forces to syria and said to me that they will be doing a lot of things and will be eyes on the ground and talking to people going in and out of rocca. also more troops in and out of iraq. there seems to be an effort on this president, even though he has held to a strong position that he will not reengage a large amount of american troops.
>> there are a lot of things the united states can do between doing nothing and putting 100,000 troops on the ground and i think you're seeing that in both iraq and syria. or the united states is focusing up on training those indigenous forces that can push back in defeat isis. at the same time it's becoming more closely involved in terms of the training and advising of these groups in order to enhance their effectiveness. what has to happen in my judgment and i think it is happening is that the narrative of success that isis has had. the narrative of success that allowed isis to recruit from around the world that allowed it from overtime to have 35,000 fighters come into this theater and syria and iraq has to be broken. the way to do that is to take back territory. the leadership and really important to take back the cities which are very symbolic.
recchi governments announced they are moving on pollution and over the next. of months there will be pressure put on muscle and pressure ultimately put on rocca and syria as well. as we do that. also have to keep our eye on the external activities of isis. thernal meaning outside iraq syria theater. challenge for us going forward because we are in a new phase here where isis as they get squeezed and they will get squeezed in iraq and syria. as they get squeezed they will act out externally from there. we are seen that in libya and most importantly we saw in europe. me just watching from where i sit at a small table that the u.s. has some really good sources where these people are. i mean he knew that she must know and any isis leader or any
taliban leader or al qaeda leader knows that there's nothing that more that the united states would like and to get them available for a drone strike. it was somehow find out where they are. they're been a significant number of successful strikes against top leadership in the aforementioned groups. >> there have been in the tribute to the u.s. military and our intelligence services. and it's an important message to stand -- to send that these groups are not infallible, that they cannot continue the unending narrative of success and we will act against them. it does not involve us sending 150,000 troops into a war theater. methodologies -- methodologies and resources whereby we can undertake these projects. we may have to intensify these efforts and i think that's what's going on in iraq and syria. we are intensifying these efforts.
i no longer have the responsibility for overseeing these things but feels to me like the top levels of the u.s. government are pushing hard to make progress against these groups. the president is pushing hard to make progress against these groups because they do present and the have to be defeated. there's not going to be a peace conference with isis. in the present an external threat as we saw in europe. europe is where a lot of work it's to be done with respect to their act together. among european nations in terms of information sharing intelligence sharing control in the borders are making progress a lot more has to be done. >> we have to leave it there. thank you so much. >> tom donlon from washington. back in a moment.
>> what did they say in art school, they said i was a genius? >> i always encouraged your talent. >> are not talking about talent. i said genius. >> i came close to killing for you. >> you can close to killing me with a chair. tomy darling, who is afraid kiss your toe. i am not. i'm not your mother. into your ear.
>> derek sue landor. >> yes. >> valentina valencia, fashion division, interpol. >> fashion police? harass some of the else. besides, i am out of fashion. >> i am pleased to have penelope cruz back at this table. this good to see you. >> it is been a couple of years. it's always great to see you. about mama. >> what can i tell you about mama. there's so much. >> let's start with who she is and the relationships that she has and what happens to her children, and her gynecologist. >> there is so much of this character that i love so much. from first time i read it, i felt this need to play her. charlie: over the last four or five years you have become a mother. >> i'm sure it has some thing to do with that but also the
subject, i felt it was really honest and the same time very original and peculiar because she is a peculiar character. charlie: and she is living with cancer. >> at the beginning of the movie her husband leaves and she is a single mother looking for a job as a teacher and everything is chaos and they tell her on top of that you have cancer undergoing to have treatment tomorrow. wait a second, what do i do with my son and i have a hair appointment should i keep it or cancel it. when i read that i thought, this is so clever. that is constantly the character, how real that reaction of somebody telling you from this moment on -- i'm telling you that your world is upside down and nothing makes sense anymore and she is in survival mode from that moment saying, i have a hair appointment. she is not listening because she can't.
i thought, and most movies a have seen when characters get this news, it is immediately a very dramatic scene when a have total understanding and acceptance of what is going to happen and what is happening to them. it's never like that in life. ice in the most crazy reactions when people get the news. and they are not crazy, you want to hold on to your life, to the normality of things you had to do and this person is telling you that everything changed. and you might die in a few months. charlie: which would you be? instant denial? or would you say, i understand, how do we get on with it? >> i am very different from magda. she probably does her checkups once a year or once every two years.
i am a little bit of a hypochondriac semite tendency is to do two checks per year. i would not want -- hypochondriac, so my tendency is to do to try checks per year. i would not want to leave that office. >> then she is pregnant. in thegets cured and cancer comes back and in the middle of that she starting this new relationship. he's also going to the recovery of a huge tragedy in his life and they need each other, they recognized something in each other and they start this relationship. she gets pregnant in the middle of that. she is two hearts beating insider but she has this cloud on her, this monster trying to take her away from this world.
and she decides to try to take away this family for her from -- for her son. we are not going to say what happens if she makes it or not but she does great. a huge scene for this kid. she creates a family for him. but she also cares about her gynecologist? >> yes, she has a very special relationship with this doctor who sings to her. there are a lot of things that are very risky but in a great way because this is julio's world. he has a very special way to see the world in the way he tells his story but have always been in love with his movies and i think this movie, when people tell me that it makes them go home and hug the people they love and tell them whatever they were not brave enough to say, this is like the best covenant they can give us with a movie like this. >> first there is soccer. >> she doesn't know anything about football.
in that way i think we're kind of similar because i don't know a lot about football. >> in my family everybody loves it. and i have people from different teams why feel like i don't want to pick one because it only to fight with all the members of my family about the dread are barcelona, but i enjoy watching it with family and friends. but i don't see all the games. e course imagine with the the worldd championship, it was incredible. charlie: what does madrid mean for you? >> i have great respect for all the players and all the teams and i don't want to get to choose one. i've managed all these years not to choose a team and i don't want to do it now. charlie: have you ever gone to a game? >> actually i have never been.
i respect football but it is not really something that i do i go and watch the games. >> do play tennis. do you sale, i was a dancer for 17 years. all my free time went into that. i was dancing for four hours a day when i was training because i wanted to be a professional dancer. then if i was going to go see something i was going to see football or baseball or rugby, i was going to see ballet because that was my world for some years. charlie: do you continue to pay attention? >> as a fan of it because that was my world for so long. in my dream of becoming a dancer. talk for 60know i minutes what it did to your feet was cruel. >> i didn't care. they teach you. ira being really young and your feet are bleeding and they ask you to smile at the same time. but it felt like some kind of
meditation that you go through that you learn to deal with pain in a different way. that is the only way that you can become a dancer. my sister is a professional dancer. i was never anything close but i did enough years to know, it is the hardest thing. it is really tough work and i have so much respect for the dancers. jon: have children changed your life. exit everything away from this first second, it's like a huge internal revolution. everything seems different. you are reviewing your own childhood again and it's becoming your own masters. you are teaching and they are teaching you constantly. they keep it really present, it is amazing how -- the way that you look at things again like christmas. we sit down in the park and you picking the food
and taking it to their home and things that i never did for so many years, since i was a kid. there are some fears that you don't have anymore but you have so many new ones. charlie: but it's also something more than yourself. >> to care about that more than you care about anything. and its immediate. -- it'so gradually incredible. i could not believe it and you hear it from your parents, your grandparents and your friends. when it happened see you it's like, this is really magical. it's magical. like they take you to mars. it is the most wonderful experience in the world for sure. >> the work is good. this movie that i produced with julio and we were really lucky
to put it together and we were really lucky that it got sold to most territories. charlie: you are the best thing in it. >> we all put a lot of love into it and a lot of effort. as you know, it is so hard to get a movie made, especially a little movie like this and for me it is important to be here sharing it with this territory. exit age 42, with two kids. with all that it happened to you do feel a cure and a great place? >> i do. i feel like every day is a new adventure. you start again. you will learn something new and not all the lessons are easy but i'm always up for that adventure. challenge.credible charlie: you were in zoolander two. every time i turn around there is a story about you in some movie. you are working all the time.
>> i don't work as much as before. i used to do four movies per year. was working nonstop in my 20's and part of my 30's until i said i know this but where are my characters. i was starting to worry about that and i changed that rhythm. wait before a chip became a mother. i was ending up with no time to prepare those characters, to explore who they are. that's the part of the process that makes me more happy. i want to play this person and let's have the time to breathe it and see who this person is. in mama i worked with a lot of cancer patients and doctors and i needed a few months to do that. charlie: what did you learn in that preparation? >> i learned so much about the movie, these fighters, these women, and their strength. how hard andt cruel the illness is, but
emotionally what they go through. they showed me their scars on their bodies, they shared everything with me. for me this movie is for them. jon: and a much to all of them? my to all ofnd all that -- an homage to all of them. >> we talked about the roles and then it picked up and you won the oscar and you live in the dreadful star >> yes but i only have good memories from that. i was really young and i did not speak english and somebody gave me a roll and i came with my ticket the return ticket so i felt safe like i will come here and do a movie and then i got another role and another role. it was like one after another coming the possibility to have mike character. >> you and i have talked about this before. at the same time you were not as
fulfilled by acting as you would become? >> gradually you get more of that trust from directors to producers imagining you in roles they have not seen you do before and we depend on that. as actors we depend on that trust. andks to people like pedro many other directors i have worked with, they decided to imagine me and things i had not done before. even if it was through casting -- i never had a problem to do those tests. it's part of it. period as aer that normal part of the process. also for somebody who did not speak english. charlie: you were not running around unhappy? >> no, i was very surprised that they were giving me opportunities to work in france, in italy, in america in my own country to be a lot of work in all these places. i never dreamed of being able.
>> are you surprised about how huge you are now? about how good life has been to you? i am always very grateful that i can wake up in the morning and do a job that i wake how many young people up and say, what do i do with all the hours. charlie: how many people wake up and do not have a job? >> that is what i mean. they're prepared to have a great job and they don't have it. because i come from a humble family like very little money. my family had to work so hard to raise us. those values are what i have been raised with and i feel like the job that i lost since i was a little girl, i've had the privilege to make a living out of that job. and this i will never take for granted, every day of my life when i wake up i feel like i can go and do this that i did when i was a little girl.
charlie: your mother had a hair salon, which i saw. >> i remember. from a saw the street grandmother's house. >> and people had windows and they would all say, penelope. >> i have great memories from that walk that you and i took. to, could you cut someone's here well today?. >> i could. i have cut some a hayek's here. >> she had complete trust with you. >> she had no light in her house and she let me do everything. a lot of people i cut their hair. everythingow to do in the hair salon of my mother. that could be my other job it seems. and i love it because i told you, that hair salon for me was really my first acting because
to me because i grew up in a store. my parents owned the store. i had to work in the store. thearned everything about people and to become comfortable and you learn how to ask questions of people and how to be outward with your curiosity. all of that comes at a very early age. from being put in an environment where if you're paying attention, you can learn a lot. >> it is a great school for life. because i have always been fascinated by human behavior, i thought, there is always something more to learn. that is why i always think it is day one. every row is your first movie. charlie: does understanding those rules somehow shaped you? you inhabit the character but you take something from a character that adds to your own life. because it is an awakening.
>> i think so. you have a feeling of what that experience could have been. i don't look for characters to be therapy, but so many times they become therapeutic. i don't like to force that but when it happens it is a great feeling because so many of your own things you can't even talk to about anybody are going to be released. >> all the emotions you pull from inside. >> what happens in a natural way, when it is forced the audience can tell and it becomes more of a narcissistic game of my own feelings about the subject. but when it's done from another place and it just happens, it's a very huge release of many things that are stuck. charlie: pedro, when you work with him and he began to work together, he could imagine you
and all kinds of roles. he had that much confidence? and he gave you that kind of freedom? >> yes. he has been so important. he's one of the most important people in my life and for my career, the first role that he gave me was this woman who was a prostitute who was giving birth woman -- and a charlie: i remember the movie. >> this character was for 10 minutes in the movie but it opened a lot of doors for me because it was so different from everything i had done before and ," andall about my mother "rogan embraces" everything have done together. i really am so grateful to him for his trust. .> he liberated you in part >> what we were sent before about giving you materials that
nobody else has imagined you would do before. ways, he was one of those people that for me have represented a very big change or push in terms of getting more diverse material. but also woody allen. woody do?hich did >> well "vicky cristina barcelona am that character was very important to me. i was not getting characters like that. i think many in my career -- luna who is not with us anymore he give me, they gave me others that were like day and night, so different and they came out in the same year and i was 18. that was the beginning of starting to get other offers and
starting to work. >> do you see the roles that you really want to do? javier and i are going to do about a movie -- going to do a movie about pablo escobar. it is based on a book. >> he will play pablo and fernanda leon wrote the script and directed it. abouts is truly the movie escobar, the movie that tells who this man was and who virginia was. nowfe, she lives in miami and has the rights for the book and this is a very interesting project and also i think i will another director in his next film. i don't know when the script will be finished but he is running a treatment that i loved.
it is a very intense drama. he does not want us to tell the story yet but it is incredible characters and i think he is one of the greatest directors that the world has right now. but also very much interesting in producing more and in directing. i directed some short films for -- we have a lingerie line that we design my sister and i. i directed short funds for the company. >> to sell the product. erected aust documentary about children with leukemia. it was mama and then almost a like half aeen and year with the documentary with very young children that are now in my heart forever. they are such masters. it's like an 80-year-old man in
the body of an eight-year-old. these kids have changed my life. what a lesson. i have learned a lot about the lack of investigation for cancer in children. there is so much to talk about and we only have 30 minutes in the documentary but we try to give up a lot of information but also to find ways where people can contribute for a foundation in spain. we want to donate everything that we raise to this foundation called one in 100,000 that focuses on investigation for children with leukemia. so this progress am very impressed -- passionate about. >> are they making progress? >> i've talked to a lot of doctors and they say they could make progress if they had more help but there is less investigation when it is related to children because the number of cases is much lower than the don't group. this is not me saying it, they
say that themselves. >> one of the nice things about being young and intelligent with the experiences that people will respond to you. if you call up a researcher or a doctor, or someone living with cancer, they will talk to you. that is the power of being penelope cruz. smallis just my contribution but i would rather put my time into something like that. ais can cause i worked with company in spain who does jewelry. they said they wanted me to work with this foundation and said why don't you direct the documentary about what they are doing. and this group of children they can working with. i met them and completely fell in love with them and i jumped into it spent time with families and with kids and doctors. is iis what -- what i shot
created a space where they could share what they go through. the mothers of luster kids because of this illness. and the kids that have survived this and have gone through the crazy- it's really a treatment. they suffer a lot. with thethem sharing audience. the experience that they go through and i just wanted to create ways that when somebody sees the documentary, they can contribute, even if it's just a little bit. but everything will go to this foundation and investigation. i like it is very specific. i like when it is specific for this foundation and for investigation. but i know the purpose and even if it helps one person, i don't care him up but it will make a difference. charlie: god knows that you have purpose. >> it's great to see you.