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we are at the republic own national convention for the final night, donald trumps nomination celebration. roger ailes is out of fox news. first, the biggest star power of the week in cleveland, the long anticipated duo of the candidate himself and his daughter. i thought, -- ivanka will take the stage of this evening. you can see them checking at this stage. anticipation about what trump is going to say has been building all week. after their rough moments, the stakes are now higher for him to perform. while we wait for the action, it is fair to say that everybody is talking about the fallout from last night, ted cruz's speech.
>> are you going to endorse donald trump? >> he did not. hillary liked it. the convention did not. they booed. booze cruz, good one. anyway.t him speak >> representative peter king called him an a-hole. >> a was an absolutely dishonorable moment. >> there was awful. governorw jersey turned over his political testicles long ago. >> and the guy that called him lucifer in the flesh says lucifer is back. and so with that, i am happy
to answer many questions. >> are you going to vote for trump? >> i am not voting for hillary. >> no back down from ted cruz today. john: there we go. i want to avoid the false binary. he no doubt hurt donald trump. we said, mike pence would be overshadowed. there is his loyalty. that has been the story all day long plus all the stuff that we showed people, that is not good for donald trump over for the convention. the long-term future, we cannot tell, how did that speech play outside the hall? mark: does ted cruz have the ability to expand his base?
he is not endeared himself to the people who care about donald trump. lots of senators saying, this is why ted cruz is the least popular of the senators. if donald performs well tonight, it will be fine. certainly heard the coverage. ted cruz, it could go either way . it was quite a moment. john: the emotion was high. mark: the conventions have become very planned. the donald trump people knew that he might not endorse. on the floor, as the speech went on and the delegations figured out he was not going to endorse, there was intense anger and ted cruz, who gave a very good speech, and did it with being booed off the stage. stage, itd off the
just is not a good look for a convention. when youare saying were talking about last night, these prepackaged events, genuine emotion, genuine anger, people really mad about what happened. mark: the ted cruz people put a lot of thought into this speech. >> freedom means religious freedom, whether you are christian or jewish or muslim or atheist, whether you are gay or straight, the bill of rights and protects the rights of all of us to live according to our conscience, our party was founded to defeat slavery, together we passed the civil rights act and together we fought to eliminate the jim crow laws. those were fights for freedom. and so is this. sergeant michael smith stood up
to protect our freedom. so did the family of alton sterling who bravely called to end the violence. a lot of things that stand out to me, defending the right of atheists. what is going on? he iswe all agreed that positioning himself for 2020. that sounded to me like the kinds of things he would have said where he the republican nominee at this convention in an attempt to broaden his normal days. now i placeholder for what kind of a candidate he will be if donald trump loses badly. says he is still waiting to endorse but at this point i am not sure. john: [indiscernible] the quick close arena was not the only place that donald
trump made news. the republican nominee sat down for an interview yesterday with the new york times. his opponents and a lot of people abroad were jumping over some of the things he suggested that america's commitment to nato allies. when asked about the baltic trump said he would decide based on whether of those countries have fulfilled their obligations to us. the senior policy advisor to clinton put out a statement saying it is fair to assume that vladimir putin is rooting for a donald trump presidency. there has been a lot of talk about this today. mark: i think that the establishment's reaction in a bipartisan way. -- andhey may try to certainly, it doesn't help to have another discussion, a lot
of the things will be appealing to the american people and they represent -- this is his opening bid to the american people think nato allies need to pay more and donald trump is trying to pressure them to do it. on turkey, people are saying it is controversial. anyve not seen administration pressure turkey to get along better with the kurds. john: this is not a gaffe. we were among the first when he first suggested that he was not fully committed to nato. think -- you could argue about whether it is popular or not and some americans probably think we should be less engaged with the world that there is no doubt that hillary clinton will take up the banner. we will talk about it next weekend beyond.
we want have david singer -- the guy knows a lot about foreign policy -- later in the show. you hear a lot of foreign policy tsk-t task-tasking, -- sking, saying that donald trump doesn't know foreign policy. ivanka trump is going to introduce her father tonight on the convention stage. she had the same role when donald trump announced his candidacy last june. she is still one of his fiercest defenders and she demonstrated that this morning on nbc. parentow the man as a and i can share how he raised me and my siblings and the father he was but also i can talk about the man he is as a leader and entrepreneur and it is in his daughter.
knowing him from those very different vantage points, seeking a similar attribute transcend both worlds, a kiss me a unique perspective. -- it gives me a unique perspective. mark: what did she have to do tonight to help her dad? john: she has a lot more weight on her now then she might have has otherwise. -- then she might have had otherwise. what we have not seen much of his allotted the other side of donald -- is a lot of the other side of donald trump. evoke a trump has a chance to -- ivanka trump has a chance to connect with college-educated white women across the country. mark: she has 20 of liberal friends.
-- he has plenty of liberal friends. she needs to i think kind of sneak in some of the issues where she thinks her father should be more moderate, planned parenthood, for instance. edgeill hear her try to him in those directions tonight. in her arsenal is trying to broaden his appeal. john: that is a good example. things she could say to make him more appealing to millennials. he has big demographic problems and she could speak to some of them tonight. given what has happened, she better doing well. mark: her brothers openly say that she is the favorite child, and she is a glamorous figure and americans would like having
listening intently. got to a point where everybody was ready for him to say, i support donald trump. , theould just feel it crowd was encouraging him to do it. it was a lost opportunity for senator cruz but at the end the day you could feel the crowd is unifying more and more every day. i can see just talking to ted cruz supporters. they are on board, almost all of them are on board. people recognize what is at stake. this is about the best direction of our country and we will hear a lot of that tonight. mark: the media always emphasizes this unity. ted cruz is not the only one who is not for donald trump. what is your case to say the party is united enough?
>> what is important is where are the supporters? it was a spirited presidential primary. no matter who you wanted to see, you probably had 2-3 choices. the real question is going to be on november 8, are you going to vote for donald trump or hillary clinton? walker, marcoott of thosee supporters candidates who want to republican president are going to vote for donald trump because they know what is at stake, it is not just about the direction of the economy, it is about the supreme court. if you want a constitutional direction, you can look at the people donald trump laid out as replacements. versus a root bader ginsburg approach -- ruth bader ginsburg
approach. i see the voters moving more and more every day to donald trump and by the into tonight, people will recognize, we have a ticket. stakes.l lay out there john: you said it was a missed opportunity for ted cruz. others have been harsher. has he done himself damage in terms of his future? >> ultimately, voters want to see a divided party appeared if you are a republican, you do not . we have a nominee now and it is .onald trump donald trump had more republican voters in the primary in the history of our party. it is a lost opportunity to unify and get support. john: my question was whether he has done long-term political damage. >> time will tell you most
people are going to support donald trump. if he would have said, i support donald trump, it would have showed that he was the bigger person. but it is not about an individual. than the goal of this convention was to show different side of donald trump to american voters, to broaden his appeal. had,e three nights we have do you see another side of donald trump? >> you have seen, of course, from his children. his best spokesperson is you funk. -- is even longer trump. -- is ivanka trump. no matter what you think about his policies, you have to be a good person to raise these children and they has been a benefit to show what he is like as a person. john: what is one personal quality that you did not know he
had? >> i do not know, but it is what you see more and more about of what a fighter he is. he has talked passionately about why he got into the race. he is concerned about the direction of our country. he will present a contrast between where he wants to go versus where hillary clinton will take our country. john: thank you very much. announcedentury fox the resignation of roger ailes. we would talk about what that means for news and politics after this. ♪
♪ roger ailes is officially out. will take over as the acting ceo of the network. jim, just a gargantuan story. what does it mean for fox news? guest: it will never be the same network. roger ailes is the network. overstated.r john: what is the future? we do not know who the new there is going to be. guest: the future depends on the rupert murdoch family. ailesounded it with roger
and approves of the way it is. it is interesting that he is the interim ceo. he will try to maintain it in the same way to the extent that he can but rupert murdoch's son s, they are not their father. that network make so much money and it is so defined for conservatives and. even if they decide to keep it the way it is without roger ailes, it cannot be the way it is. donald trump does it is her portion a number of interviews with fox news, will knewcontinue? >> before i rupert murdoch was going to be ceo i thought that could change, because it is him, i think that will remain the same but if i were your network, there is going to be more of a shot at that. just made a huge
difference, the dna of abc news. what is an example of something that roger ailes did that will now be different? while it is overstated but he is dictating every word, in the come andhe tells you make sure you are on this, make sure you are on that, the irs scandal -- would that have been covered the same way? scandals that have been causes celeb -- mark: what would drive fox viewers -- >> one other thing that is important is the look and you have seen a lot of writing about transparency. there is a look of the network that roger ailes understands.
it has been widely assumed that what was the dagger in his heart was that notion that megyn kelly was among his accusers. is that correct? symbolically, it is a huge deal but all reporting this morning was you have at least six women who have given statements that they were sexually harassed. if you are 21st century fox, what do you do about that? that investigation will continue. megyn kelly stuck to her guns. then comes forward as, hey, i was involved in this, too. there is a lot there. programs highest-rated on the channel are in primetime. megyn kelly has talked about leaving.
hosts leave,ime how devastating will that be? star.l o'reilly is a losing one is a big deal. i do not know if he will do it. where would he go? if rupert murdoch keeps some -- mark: two they have people who can take over there shows? >> bill o'reilly is one of the stars. love him or hate him, the guy is a television talent. you do not have a bench for that. megyn kelly is a big star. you do not have another person who is that kind of talent off the bat. john: is it your sense that the sons with the driving forces of pushing him out? >> that has been our understanding.
again, our best sources are you have anat investigation that is finding what they say they are finding, that doesn't matter. all the stuff we love to report on, it is less important than the legal exposure to the company. mark: it is fascinating that they hired a firm to do an investigation. >> that is the new generation. this news corporation, what it used to be called, it had a huge hacking scandal and they had to reorganize and they were known -- now, they have to be more serious. john: thank you for being here. next, rick davis. ♪
>> we came together in a national crusade to make america great again and to make a new beginning. >> wrong prompter, guys, wrong prompter. joining us now, our friend, a great man -- [indiscernible] [laughter] john: it has been an eventful three days. put it in perspective for us. >> i have never seen anything like it. i suppose the old rules do not apply. i do not think that is the case. they stepped on their lines every day and the same immune from that aired i found my cancer was very good last night and did exactly what they wanted him to do. and there were some things that did not work as well but you know, i do not know that it all
has made a huge difference one way or another. john: what is your sense of really want trump thinks about how this is going? there is obviously a public face of everything is fantastic. what is the real view? >> there is a lot of frustration which started on monday when donald trump called in to fox news to do an interview during the convention to the surprise of many people on the campaign and to the anger of people at the convention and and soon after that you have a controversy over mrs. tr ump's speech. of so there is a feeling even when they think they are going to have a great moment monday are going to put his wife out there to speak for him and humanize him, something seems to happen to blow that up. we will see how tonight goes. this week was supposed to be
we have seennd some of that here and there but the whole arena broke into boos when senator ted cruz did not endorse donald trump. >> you are so right. we went to breakfast on monday anding, paul menard ford one of the first things he does is blast john kasich, the governor of ohio. you know she did not do that without donald trump's lawyers. there is a dichotomy. this morning, mike pence was really good last night. the lead story was the story from the new york times with donald trump talking about nato. that is not normal. put the ted cruz into
perspective and whether you think that has implications for donald trump -- going for -- >> i do not think it does. hurtnot think it really very much but the huge -- it was a huge calculation. jenna's pointto about unity was supposed to be the purpose of it in maybe it doesn't matter but a convention that where the second and for place finishers won't endorse the nominee where prominent governors -- are not here, houseent senators, members, that is not a convention. that is a disaster. hillary clinton has been excellent in a really aggressive this week with public events. any idea what the republicans plan next week? >> we will see. they are looking to be just as
visible and upstage whenever possible. if there is one theme, the campaign theme, make america safe again, make america work again, but the theme of the week has been, we cannot let hillary clinton the president and that has been a theme of almost every speech that has been getting up in the clinton campaign was fighting back. then messaging is going to continue. this is one issue that republicans can rally around, whether they like donald trump are not, they do not like hillary clinton. >> [indiscernible] john: donald trump will do the same thing. have you spotted a rising star on stage? >> you often do.
i cannot say there is anybody that i say, gosh, they are really going to be terrific in the future. how about you? mark: even -- is so many people escaping, so many people. normally you walk around, you see lots of prominent politicians. mostly, it is delegates. >> my highlight was in south carolina. it is true. the trump people who -- they are really the people [indiscernible] one third ofout the convention and they are really excited. there is a third that just accepted donald trump and there is a third who will make it
clear that they are very unhappy. john: [indiscernible] stopped makinge predictions. that hewill predict will give a slew of interviews. >> normally you would say there is a zero chance of shooting somebody on fifth avenue -- >> i think he will do fox and friends as a cohost -- >> will -- [indiscernible] >> she seems like she knows something. >> -- uncomfortable, by that question, jenna johnson. [crosstalk] [indiscernible] ♪
♪ we will use these good times for great goals. with his net a talk about his interview with donald trump, national security correspondent david sanger. i want to talk about tone. you have interviewed a lot of candidates. does this seem like a man in command of these issues or more casually connected? >> i think he is serious about trying to learn them. he has had a different upbringing than those of us who live in washington and sit around at dinner parties and
occasionally i have been to a few, discuss nato enlargement. and so, i think that he doesn't , andthe terminology down that is fine with him because the message he is sending is, if i become president i'm going to shake things up, it is not going to be the way it was so you should not count on the alliances. at this particular moment, it seems like a purposeful thing to do. was there anything about the things he said that you felt was not purposeful? john: the trouble he got into today was trouble he wanted to make with allies around the world? >> we did have a lengthy interview with him in march where we took up some of the similar topics and we try to go beyond it. i think that he wanted to show in addition to the pageantry of the convention that he is also
dealing with the substance of what it would be like the commander-in-chief and frankly, the message that he sends out, which is fundamentally one of the allies cannot expect a free ride, something you have also heard from president obama, he has another line which is, if they will not pay up more, we are going to cut off what we are doing for them. that separates him from american interests. what are the american interests in keeping nader together? i am not sure but he is spent a huge amount of time on those issues. again, people say, like, reagan did not know a lot about nuclear weapons and people credit him with somebody who had instant for the guys decisions. -- gut decision. >> he has a lot of instinct but
not surprisingly they are the instincts that come from negotiating development deals so it is a very transactional approach to american foreign-policy. whereas his party has had, for 70 years, a relationship-building approach. then we build up later relationships because you never know what is going to happen. and then after the soviet union fell, nato was in search of a mission and found it in yugoslavia than afghanistan and elsewhere. he does not come to this with a mission picture. he thinks the united states can take care of itself. he is coming into it with industry transaction and that is where he the party establishment -- john: so transactional, sees a lot of these issues through an economic lens?
is there a philosophical underpinning that you can find? is he a neocon realist? isolationist? >> i was struggling with that at the end the last interview in march and that is what i said, if i had to characterize this i would characterize it as america first. i was suspecting him to say, this is not like the isolationist movement but he said, no, he likes america first. yesterday he said the reason i is i am thinking of it in terms of today, it has no historical resonance for me. now, for many others and certainly for older americans who are thinking back to lindbergh, it is a huge historical resident. mark: he says something that you
might hear from the cuban leader saying, our house is not in andr, we have problems therefore we are not in the position to criticize others. is that something that is a departure? >> certainly. what you would hear from president obama, president bush is we are not a perfect nation. you hear this from president obama on race related issues. in that we are striding direction and look at where we have gotten from the 1960's. mark: we do not have the standing. is making isnt he more like what you hear if you read the chinese press or the russian press where they say, who were they to lecture us? they have bigger issues. they should stick their nose out of our business. i do not think he would
necessarily agree with that statement which is that we are the indispensable nation. >> i think that he would probably say we are the most powerful nation and we are willing basically to offer up that power if we are compensated for it. mark: great interview, thank you for coming back. next, rick davis talks about how this convention has gone. ♪
fellow americans delete a great crusade. ,ark: joining us is rick davis the campaigner for john mccain in 2008. -- thank you for coming on the show. 2008. to take you back to that was an eventful convention in minneapolis. one,g experienced this what parallels and differences do you see? >> certainly the parallels are paline unveiled sarah that week at the convention. there was a lot of new activity and excitement. i think donald trump had a lot of excitement already coming in and we had to generate some because john mccain was such a known quantity, it was much more traditional orthodoxy, the guy who was supposed to win did. so you were going to the
convention with certainty, a lot of knowledge, and we wanted to mix it up by putting something in that would create excitement in that was like a bomb going off in minneapolis. and you have a little of those coming off every night here. i think that is the new it thing for contentions is, surprising people in creating excitement. john: have you been in touch with your former colleagues? i have not tried to meddle in their affairs. mark: as you watch them -- from afar, how do you think they are doing in this hierarchy of the donald trump campaign? >> i don't know about roger. he is probably the greatest convention manager, paul, in the modern era. he has worked in a lot of them
with me on other projects we have done and, it has got some of the hallmarks of what his traditional skill sets are, but also, he is in the position where he is dealing with a phenomenon that is nontraditional politics, the donald trump campaign. he is both learning from donald trump as it relates to what the new era of politics is and even with that, also. the thing that is nice about politics is that you never stop learning. every cycle and every candidate is different. you have to think i knew. -- anew. you talk about these campaigns and surfing, you just have to stay on top. john: i know you called him the greatest convention manager of all time, there was a vetting problem with the candidate's wife speech on monday, problems with scheduling during prime time. last night, a candidate booed
off the stage. how does one square his reputation with those things that seem to be basic management failures? guest: there are a lot of hiccups in this convention. i think part of it is owed to the different approach for the party that trump makes. the speech, pretty clear that a bypassed all the normal processes that are in place literally eight months out. problemt up to fix that in case it ever happened. they run a little looser in trump world. they do not adhere to the normal political activities that we all have helped create and abide by, and that is both a negative, because these things happen, but it is also a positive because it creates a lot of excitement, and, obviously, it is worked for him, and my impression is,
donald trump is the kind of guy who place to do things that work for him. i just know what they say, right ? i am not there strategist. they are looking to put them play these blue-collar white voters. the number one thing they are tried to do is drive voter turnout in white-collar -- blue-collar, white suburbs of pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, now they are talking about new jersey. those are enticing. we thought we could do that, too. we put money, in 2008, we put money into pennsylvania and michigan and we wound up yanking out of those places because at this point in the campaign, those were closed states. we thought we had a unique cast of characters, we thought we could change the political
dynamic on the ground in those places, and we couldn't. we pulled out of michigan. it was one of those things where he was sarah palin going rogue. this was in late september. mark: do you think the donald trump would be a stronger michigan or pennsylvania candidate than john mccain? >> every campaign gets pulled into the sense -- mark: that the alternative is giving up. >> take it to pick with you want to play, right? i think this narrative fits the candidate. they have to give you a narrative, of here is how you are going to win. it is better than if they were to say we are going to go to the normal places like florida and north carolina. hispanicearly got a voter problem, he is not going to get as much as romney or mccain got.
those states are you sensitive to the internet so it would not be possible to anyone that you can make that work. who is the favorite at who is the underdog? >> you have to assume that with hillary clinton with her money advantage in -- she's basically running as an incumbent. in this case, you have to call it that. i read the same polls that you guys too. ohio and michigan, these places look really good right now. john: rick davis, thank you for coming in. next, over from our friend jay roach. ♪
♪ -- you reallyow cannot go backstage and find anything more just over-the-top then what is going on -- i don't know if it will never be more interesting than what is actually going on on the surface. john: that was director jay roach in an interview on my podcast, check it out online along with all of our cleveland coverage. cleveland,row, from sayonara. ♪
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