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>> they will soon be calling me mr. brexit. >> now calling himself a new name, mr. brexit. ♪ mark: we are going positively nuts with donny deutsch by my side. the political world spends a lot of time talking about the image of presidential candidates, but after donald trump's campaign changes this week, many eyes are
cast on the cast of characters advising the nominee. we will talk about a few them to start off. he will begin with the ceo of team trunp, breitbart executive stephen bannon. there are profiles galore about his eclectic repertoire. he has been called a conservative media provocateur and "the single most influential figure in the trump campaign." other news organizations dubbed him "a street fighter" and "a media bomb-thrower." the only interview he has done is with our own bloomberg colleague, in which he insists trump can work with the republican party. how is this bannon brand faring? donny: it has been no secret that i have said all along, trump the man, he wants himself to run and never expected to be
here, and he doesn't want to lose. he is literally going into the revolution business. he is doubling down obviously. do you know it's been being antiestablishment towards republican senate democrats. the math does not add up. but coming out of the election, if he is not a loser, i have 40 million people following me. i did not lose. this is a media political technology empire with basically bannon as the media guy and trump as the salesman. he wins even if he loses. it just got clear to me. mark: bannon should not let himself be so defined by others.
he has an impressive resume. he is responsible at breitbart. there has been a lot that is negative, dark. three has a record of accomplishment as a businessman. i have not done any clearance, or what i read exactly what he's going to do. is he charge of message, building a future network? i have no idea. i can tell you the press, the filter they are putting on him is the one a lot want to put on trump -- she's going to go dark and negative. that seems to be the impression. the bannon brand is infecting the trump brand in a negative way.
donny: this will be a new media party representing those 30-40,000,000 people trump has hit. his new campaign manager, kellyanne conway, who has gotten glowing reviews from the establishment republicans. for instance, the pro-life group lists "no one is better at understanding what real people are thinking." the wall street editorial board wrote "she is a neoconservative with a talent for connecting voters that are not policy wonks." she says she has been humbled by the incoming praise. and as good campaign managers do, she directed the good vibes towards her boss. kellyanne: i am the first female republican campaign manager. i did not know that, nor did donald trump ever mention that to me. you know why? that is not why he promoted me.
that speaks very well of him. he has been doing that in the trump corporation for years. donny: in the same interview, conway tried to find the sweet spot between letting trump be trump and keeping his message on track. kellyanne: we would like him to give speeches like he has this week. when he delivers a speech in his own words, then people can focus on the content. i think we are going to sharpen the message. we are going to make sure that donald trump is comfortable about being in his own skin, that he does not lose authenticity.
voters know if you are comfortable in your own skin. if he wants to go to a rally and neck with a crowd in a way that is just connect with a crowd that is spontaneous, that is how he got here. at the same time, we have pressing problems in this country. i am thrilled we have gotten so much coverage for the first two speeches. next week is immigration week, followed by education week. donny: same question for you, how is the kellyanne conway brand doing? mark: the opposite. she has always bridged the gap between the establishmentarians and the voters. trump respects her and she has been in other presidential campaigns. some people are knocking her that she has never won a presidential campaign -- not many people have. her brand is thriving, and it is
helping trump a lot. donny: alpha males like trump like people of the same temperament. that is a war that has taken him down a lot, but if you look at people that are rising to the top, it's the people that are smart and tough, not namby-pamby people. they spend so much time on finding out who their people are 84 days from the campaign. mark: he needs help because he is an amateur. i don't mean that in a negative way, he has never run for anything. donald trump's staffing shuffle has been viewed as a slight to the campaign chairman paul manafort. some argue that he has been sidelined in part for trying to control the candidate too much.
the editor of the national review depicted manafort as having been ousted. the campaign pushing back on any insistence that his power has been diminished. manafort in the campaign are dealing with a constant iv drip of news stories with his ties to russia and the ukraine. nbc news reported in 2008, manafort's firm was involved with a ukrainian oligarch. he also did business with a russian billionaire, who also had ties to organized crime. manafort and the campaign should expect more of these stories to come. besides business dealings, how is the manafort brand doing and how has it impacted trump's? donny: once new people come in, and the guy is in charge -- and
this whole russian thing that the bbc is reporting. 40,000 russian troops assembling on the ukrainian-crimean border. you do not want that guy around. he is getting trump to not be trump. for all of the above, i think he will be gone in a couple of weeks. mark: these stories are a problem because trump has been so close to putin, or at least rhetorically. i don't think you are right. the clinton campaign has 10 senior people dealing with all the stuff he needs to deal with. there is a lot of work left for paul manafort to do. big budget decisions, big political decisions, putting the correlations together. the work is being divided up,
but he still has a big portfolio. donny: you are comparing the clinton campaign --trump ran a mom-and-pop business. teaches a people gut person. what you are saying is logical given how this candidate has run his campaign. i don't see a place for manafort. mark: when we come back, donald trump is about to roll of his first general election tv spot. where, when, and what, after these words from our sponsors. ♪
convention, hillary clinton's campaign spent $22 million in tv dollars. that's about to change, with donald trump rolling out his first election spots. he has reserved $3.9 million in ohio, north carolina, florida, and pennsylvania tomorrow through august. that will likely become bigger, including some ad buys on cable. for comparison, the clinton campaign will spend $17 million over that same time. we don't know what the ads will look like. his team was looking at several different options regarding content. before we talk about what those spots might look like, let's take a peek at the spots currently airing, starting with the democrats and their many anti-trump messages. >> when i saw donald trump attack another gold star mother, i felt such a sense of outrage. >> what donald trump said about
our members of the military being captured is a disgrace. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the nuclear codes? as of now, i have to say no. [laughter] >> can we make the economy work for everyone? hillary clinton's plan start here. donny: now here are some of the clinton ads already on the airwaves. >> she's one of the wealthiest women in politics. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but in debt. >> wall street insiders, drew corrupt dictators. they all had one thing in common, their check cleared. >> i never told anybody to lie. >> she does not believe in your right to keep a gun at home for self-defense. >> i don't think there is any
way to legislate against outsourcing. i think that is a dead end. >> she is out of touch, leaving you defenseless. mark: the pro-trump groups running those anti-clinton messages. donny: i think it will go down so nasty. donald trump's ads are going to frame hillary not only has untrustworthy, but a crooked part of this establishment that is los angeles and new york, media politicians. it's going to be very nasty and conspiratorial type. all the discussion has been on trump. he needs to go extreme in the ads. even if they are outright lying, it will shift the campaign back
to hillary. you will see a nasty interpretation at a level we have never seen before. mark: what about showing him being optimistic at rallies? donny: he gets his pro donald trump with all the media coverage. it's not the crowds, but the media coverage. today, it has been on donald trump. whoever makes it a referendum on the other one will win. mark: so you don't think he's going to run any bio spots? donny: no, he's not going to be hugging babies. you have to come out with a pretty ugly alternative to get people off the fear of that. mark: do you think they will do e-mails, whitewater? donny: all of the above.
i have to stop drinking before the show. [laughter] with us, kasie hunt and jennifer epstein. jennifer, let me start with you. there should've been a lot more talk about clinton. it's interesting the kind of health conspiracy theory. she fired back hard. were you surprised they came back so hard? jennifer: the clinton campaign percolated. trump talked about it on hannity's show a couple times. what the trump wanted to do was let the media ecosystem respond to it naturally. to let fact checkers do they are debunking, and then finally they swooped in. they released a statement from communications directors -- they are trying to change what should have been something on the
defensive into an offensive. one aide compared it to help president obama dealt with the birth certificate issue. donny: mark and i thought it was smart. something else that could have been big news, the fbi interview notes going up to the hill. are you surprised there has not been more on that? jennifer: yeah, when something gets to the hill republicans we goes pretty quickly. one thing that chuck grassley noted last night, there is a bit of classified information next in with mostly nonclassified information. which means that a very limited number on the congressional staff can actually read those notes. that i think is slowing down the whole process.
the clinton campaign is ok with that because they don't want these selective leaks that end up making the story look worse. mark: i want to get to your overlook stuff. talk about the health care response and the fbi notes. kasie: they clearly decided they needed to play defense here, which they haven't on a lot of things before. things trump has raised on the stump. he has talked about bill clinton's sex scandals in the 1990's. they said, we are going to be totally hands-off. i am interested in learning more about why that is, why this seems like a potentially bigger threat. on the e-mails, this is really difficult to understand if you are the average voter, right? you are down in the weeds with jason chaffetz, what's the difference between an e-mail header that is classified, --
exactly. it seems that the goal is to motivate republican base voters that are ready to believe republicans that will say this is a problem for her. mark: there is like it's between the americans held in iran and this $400 billion -- more stories about rush in syria. where do you see the overlook on her foreign-policy record and credentials? kasie: one thing that trump has been handing to hillary clinton is the opportunity to talk about him, but never talk about herself. she has been able to escape and has not answered the latest iteration of this question. the wall street journal have raised this earlier. for the most part, she dismissed it.
she has been supportive of this deal. she has not been asked, was this a good idea? she has not recently been asked whether this was a policy the u.s. should be revisiting. mark: it could come up at the next press conference. jennifer: there was not really an opportunity to ask. donny: trump's new team is going to go more negative and nasty than ever. i have a theory that traditionally it might backfire. even though 68% of the country say it's going in the wrong direction. people responded to the more positive talk in the conventions. kasie: when donald trump first won the nomination, there was a willingness. people were going to say oh, this is interesting, but suddenly he has won the nomination, and maybe i should take a look. through the conventions you see that willingness dissipate a little bit. i wonder if the sense of the
electorate will move that way. that we are over in general. if they are able to help drive the president's numbers down, that could hurt. what is your sense on the health question in particular? you have a sense of why you thought that was a threat? jennifer: i think they wanted to point out how ridiculous it was how what trump and his allies have been saying. i think it's crazy to say that she is in bad health. mark: comparing it to the birther thing. public polls showed a high percentage of americans questioned whether the president was born in the united states. this is a pretty research oriented campaign. i do not ask them. jennifer: anecdotally, i've had a lot of friends that don't pay a lot of attention to politics
asked me, what's the deal with her health? mark: even if only two people say it, that's enough. a bunch of clinton aides were supposed to take ethics training and it didn't, is this story a thing? kasie: this is one of those incremental stories that could blow up or fade. but it's the kind of headline that absent the noise with the trump campaign-- jennifer: there's so much noise from the trump campaign that it's overshadowing and drowning out all these questionable clinton things. donny: that's why i think the advertising will go really nasty. can you read and take us out of that? kasie: i'm going to thank jennifer epstein. mark: you can praise our guests. donny: you have to say, coming
>> time to talk a little ye old strategy. we're joined now by john, the g.o.p. strategist, an advisor of the new york republican party. and also a democratic advisor, traveling chief of staff to vice president al gore. just a little housekeeping. you're for hillary clinton. who are you for? mark: the republican party. >> yeah. mark: are you voting for donald trump? >> absolutely. he's from new york, you know that. >> absolutely. i'm a new yorker. mark: >> so we like to do a little strategy swap.
trump campaign, kellyanne conway acknowledged today it's behind, so you guys have got catching up to do. if you were giving advice to donald trump and kellyanne conway, what would you tell them? what are the building blocks to a comeback? >> message discipline. if mr. trump could focus on a couple of key messages and not do the clinton campaign's job for them -- donny: which two messages? >> first of all, this is not a specific message but it's a broader strategy. he needs to restore his credibility as an acceptable alternative in a change election year. donny: how do you do that? >> well, it's complicated. and he's worked hard to -- and i don't think intentionally, but he has disqualified himself among strands of the general electorate. by the way, i thought the roundtable he did the other day, at least the optics on national security made sense, giving policy speeches and sticking to a message on teleprompter or not, it's important that he show he can be a president. if he doesn't get that back, all the negative attacks, all the tough ads, he doesn't have enough of the electorate to come back and win the election. mark: what should joel and company be doing for hillary clinton right now? >> i say ditto. when you look at hillary clinton she's been dodging the press for , a little bit under a year now. so that would actually feed into the growing sentiment that she's
not trustworthy, that she's hiding something. mark: so, john, if she were your client and she said, john, i hate press conferences. i'm up 10 points. you'd say, go do some press conferences? >> at least do one or two, right? the staged one she did on fox -- donny: you're in this business. you know that every day that is about trump on the news, she wins. >> but she has to hedge. donny: hedge or not, it's the right strategy. it's the right strategy. if i was managing her campaign, i would keep her under wraps as much as we possibly can. but make every day about trump? >> you know how things can change very quickly. donny: i'm talking about right now. >> if she doesn't actually do something that's sort of like good will, put some good will in escrow, if you will, by at least doing one press conference before the debates, and generally see how the debates go -- mark: maybe on an august friday. >> there you go. bury it, right! mark: there are some people who
make the case to her, get it done. >> or at least a saturday afternoon. donny: you're saying a presser taking questions? >> yeah. >> at least 15 minutes. >> and i think it's true. both candidates, i'd spend an extra hour a day on debate prep. i think it is true for both strategies. the debates are going to be the last real impact moment with a national audience, a chance to change the dynamic of the race. if i'm secretary clinton, i'm in there, making sure i'm ready for any haymaker that's going to come her way. and if i'm trump -- donny: let me just reference this brilliant man's book. we all know that donald trump, there's so many questions you can ask him. i'm not talking about, tell me the year croatia was liberated. i'm talking basic 101, tell me the difference between a sunni and a shiite. how do you prepare him for that? >> first of all, he's not going to be able to compete with her on the debate stage on policy.
why the way very few people can. ,-- by the way very few people , can. i don't know many of her staff people that could keep up with secretary clinton on the details of public policy. but he's got to be able to deliver a message. i would pick two or three key messages that i'd try to draw a contrast on her and make sure whatever the question is, i am delivering that message. >> the 90-minute debate -- >> he did a great job through all the republican debates, pulling everybody to what he wanted to focus on. on one, though, right? >> actually, you might have three people in the race. >> maybe. >> you never know. mark: the two vice presidential candidates are in, i think, as good shape as any i've seen in the sense that both clinton and trump, i'm told, really happy with their picks. and both these guys are out there doing lots of events, not really shackled in any way. do you see them as cancelling each other out? is one of them helping the other out more at this point? >> no. they're serving different roles. first of all, i actually think
both of them made good picks, for different reasons. and both of them have one eye on potentially the future in the next cycle. and so the calculation for both , of them is different. i would say for senator kaine in particular, his ability to support her, to deliver a message that's complementary to hers has been crucially important. and for governor pence, it's been reassurance to some of the audiences that want to make sure there's going to be, you know, an adult in charge or somebody around who can help guide the ship of state if they get elected, but they are very different things. >> that is a strong conservative. i think that speaks to the basis party ande republican those that are far right, especially those that are in the ben carson, the ted cruz camp, to make sure that, you know what? we have a conservative that's in the white house.
for those who still have questions, you know, whether trump is more to the middle or to the right. and i think, you know, as we move along in the election process, trump is proving himself to have more right-leaning views. donny: mark, this is the first time in the election, two candidates coming into it have a 100% brand awareness. neither of these guys can make a difference. is that fair to say? mark: i think the way you've talked about it is right. they're both helping in big ways, as big as you can at the bottom of the ticket. they're both going to log a lot of great local coverage, which is really important. you can only be in one state at a time. are your candidates who are on the ballot in new york this year worried about the prospect of a blowout at the top of the ticket? is that something people are talking about? >> i think when you look at what happened in the primary, you know, we had a lot of people come out. a lot of people are excited, the fact trump won every county except for one. mark: this one. >> his own.
so the energy is very high. you know, we don't really expect to win much in new york city, given the numbers. i think it's 7-1 ratio. but when you look at new york state, it's more 2.5 or 3-1. so i think we are in good position. mark: are you going to have a strong candidate for mayor next year? >> absolutely. mark: who is it gonna be? >> in due time. one race at a time. in the journal today raised the prospect of a blowout for hillary clinton. are you hearing democrats more saying, hey, don't take anything for granted, races are going to be close, or are more people thinking about long coattails -- >> i hear both. i do know a lot of people. there are two conversations going on. i think justifiably people are concerned about turnout. they want to make sure people stay focused till the very end of this race, that people don't become complacent. that will matter. you also hear talk of the expansion. when we hear states like arizona and missouri, we haven't seen
that in a long time. we have not seen that in a very long time. and so i do think people are looking at the map and they're looking at the numbers in those states in a different way. mark: ok. thank you, gentlemen, both. when we come back, we're headed to the polls to break down some of the latest in polling. if you are watching us in washington, d.c., listen to us on the radio radio at bloomberg 99.1fm. we will be right back. ♪
who is going to answer two big questions that keep coming up. the first thing i get asked about all the time, and i don't have great answers, but you do some polls now look at likely , voters, some look at registered voters, some pollsters ask both within a given poll. why not pick one and go with it? >> to be perfectly honest, pollsters have two different philosophies about how you decide what the electorate is going to look like. there are those who say i'll decide and we'll look at all the data. mark: this many men, this many women -- >> based on everything we know. they don't want to do that until it's close to the election. which tends to be after labor day. so before that, so they have something to look at, they look at registered voters, so they can look at times one, times two, times three, times four, and have a trend line that makes sense to them. mark: so keep it to registered voters for consistently, and then -- >> then you have the shift
change where they're switching to likely voters. then there are pollsters like i am, who say let the voters tell me who is a likely voter. how can i predict this election in particular, really any election, because there's so many ways now that the electorate changes from cycle to cycle to cycle. >> like obama brings in more african-americans or -- >> or young people and they're better at turnout than the poll might predict. donny: has anybody come out of a hole that trump is in once you layer in both the national and the battleground -- overall snapshot, has anybody come back from that? >> we took a look from the beginning of polling to see what had been happening in election after election. you have some elections like eisenhower who led in polls in the beginning and end. but there have been several that offered up surprises and twists and turns and changes of leads. so people have mostly been talking about dukakis being behind as much as 19 points, but in august, leading by as much as 17 points.
-- by seven points. of course george w. bush went on to beat him rather handily. but there was a time that carter was leading ford by a lot more. that turned to be a very close race. so ford was able to make up where he was in august by election time. that is 16 percentage points. back to 1968, you had hubert humphrey at only 29 points. that was the closest race up to that point in time. so looking back in history, you can say anything can happen. you look at this race in particular, and with every day there being a new bit of news breaking that can change the poll, anything can happen. mark: and it's safe to say that while it is possible that trump could come back, leaving aside the conduct of his campaign, just looking at leads in the past, he can certainly narrow this contest? >> he certainly could. mark: coming all the way back, maybe a taller order than has typical been done. >> people have come back by more points than he's trailing. mark: right.
you can call them idioms or filler phrases. we call them the trump abc's. for a long time, we've been listening to what donald trump says in public. tonight we present what we , believe is the definitive catalog of the trump alphabet, naturally in alphabetical order. >> together we accomplish what nobody thought was absolutely possible. absolutely. absolutely proven to be. absolutely a total lie. absolutely. absolutely. i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. believe me, i'll make you very proud of those justices. we can get them tow pay for it, believe me. i am the least racist person that you've ever met, believe me. believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. they're taking it over big league. big league. big league. hillary wants to expand regulations, which she does big league. big. and big league.
total control. ding ding! bong bong! she's married to anthony wiener. you know, the little bing bing bing, bomb bomb. little mouth on him. bing bing bing. bing bing bing. by the way we will build a wall. ,by the way -- by the way -- and he's worked in north carolina, by the way. by the way -- by the way -- and by the way -- did this guy choked? he choked. i've watched people choke over the years. and once a choker, always a choker. he's a choke artist. he choked. pure and simple. that means he's going to choke. he just choked. we have crooked hillary. crooked hillary. crooked may be more accurate, actually. it's a crooked system. it is 100% crooked. nobody would be tougher on isis than donald trump. donald trump. everybody is gonna vote for donald trump. donald trump, donald trump. donald trump, donald trump. donald trump.
donald trump. donald trump. donald trump. donald trump. donald trump. they obviously got to the pope. and they tell him what a bad guy donald trump is. he doesn't know me. never met me. doesn't know what i'm all about. knows nothing about me. they are really trying to stop me. i call it the failing new york sometimes. failed horribly. they're friends of mine. hillary is a great friend of mine. her husband is a great friend of mine. tom brady is a great friend of mine in a friend of mine. some are friends of mine. get them out of here. get them out of here. get them out of here! get them out! get him out of here. get him out. get them out of here. go ahead. get them out. you can get the baby out. we don't know where they come from, really. this could be the all-time great trojan horse. this could be the great trojan horse. i like people that weren't captured, ok? i hate to tell you. i hate to tell you, it came to indiana.
they have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. a hater. i made a lot of money dealing against china. and i made a lot of money dealing against other countries. i made a lot of money doing everything i did. i made a lot of money doing the apprentice, in real estate, i made a lot of money. everything i did. a total and complete joke. hillary clinton is a joke. total joke. i think the guy is a total incompetent jerk. looks like a jerk. nobody knows currency manipulation better than china. nobody knows -- nobody knows -- nobody even knows who the people are. nobody knows what they're doing with the money. honestly, he cheated like a dog. he choked like a dog. he choked like a dog. marco is sweating like a dog. they were fired like dogs. they hate little marco rubio so much. little marco. little marco. it's gonna -- look, the group of losers -- they're losers. just losers.
i millions of votes ahead. am millions. these other companies, they go out and they spend millions of dollars looking for oil. millions and millions of jobs. i have no relationship with putin. i don't think i've ever met him. i never met him. honestly, i don't know david duke. i don't believe i've ever met him. this guy, rickets or something. i never met him. >> and he was sweating so badly, and he was sweating so badly, i have never seen anything like it. we've never seen anything like it. what he did with ben carson was terrible. i've never seen anything like that. i've never seen anything like it. we're gonna vote like you've never seen before. like you've never seen before. oh, boy! oh, boy! it always will be. ok? ok? ok? ok. ok. that's enough. a lot of people are saying that. and a lot of people are saying that bad things are happening out there. people are saying. i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees.
i can promise you. he's definitely over there, no question about it. he certainly lives above his means, no question about that. no question about it. there's no question about it. we will never be able to fix a rigged system by counting on the same people who have rigged it in the first place. the system, folks, is rigged. it's rigged by big donors. it is rigged by business businesses. it's rigged. the whole system is rigged. the economy is rigged. the banking system is rigged. there's a lot of things that are rigged. we have a rigged system, folks. he knows what being ripped off and i know what being ripped off is. there's something going on with him that we don't know about. there's something going on that we all don't know about. there's something going on that we don't know about. we are led by very, very stupid people. somebody said, you shouldn't say stupid. but it's true. they're stupid. stupid. stupidity. if i get the nomination, i'll win the latino vote.
that is a terrible gesture. terrible. terrible. that's terrible. terrible. terrible people. terrible. so terrible. i thought he was terrific. i think he's a terrific person. terrific person. what you don't talk about is the thousands of people that i do hire. thousands. i don't know how many. but many thousands. thousands and thousands. tens of thousands. we're gonna win so much, you're gonna get tired of winning. you're gonna get sick and tired of winning. they'll get tired of winning. libya is a total mess. iraq is a total mess. total mess. total mess. i have a great company with tremendously talented people. tremendous cash flow in . tremendous net worth. tremendous understanding of this country. our message is unbelievable. unbelievable. unbelievable. i don't believe this! this is unbelievable. nobody believes it. the press is so dishonest and so unfair. i thought they were very unfair. it's unfair.
i was very viciously attacked. viciously. viciously. i said, wow, i can't believe it. wow! wow. and i said, wow! i said wow! oh, wow. i call it extreme. extreme. extreme vetting. he referred to my hands, small something else must be , small. i guarantee you, there's no problem. guarantee you. you take a look at the salaries being paid, what's going on at the colleges. you just take a look at what's going on. new hampshire has a huge heroin problem. i'm a huge believer in cleanness. i'm not a huge believer in the global warming phenomenon. lindsay gray has zero. how do you get 0%? zeros! zero, zero. bush. mark: they put that masterpiece together. [applause] yeah. what do you think of the way trump talks? donny: um, that's that man. i think that actually helps him.
he's a queens guy. that's the way we talk. you are a choke artist you know. , so that takes him off the billionaire pedestal and puts him, connects him to the man on the street, so we can laugh at it, but it's actually very effective. mark: and that's entertaining. that took a long time, i hate to tell you. but i absolutely think we got them all in, believe me. we'll be right back with a final word, after this. ♪
♪ donny: last couple of weeks, i want to thank the great john for letting me keep his seat warm while he's been on vacation. this tremendous crew. mark: great to be with you. bloomberg west is on your t.v. next. thanks for watching! we'll be back tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel. sayonara. ♪