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were scandal for hillary clinton. what is she do? tonight, on "with all due respect", a special investigation, one woman, one nation, one pickle jar. was the lead loosen? were there even pickles inside? i must say i have trouble. >> what kind of pickles are we talking about? tonight, all your vehicle questions answered.
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has she crossed the line? investigation of hillary clinton. ♪ john: we will try to keep things kosher tonight. of flood zone. a rigged system road trip stops in austin, texas. it is part of his retooled shift thisctic to race onto hillary clinton, her e-mail controversy, and her foundation. made the state
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department into the same kind of pay for play operation as the arkansas government was. think of what happened back then. involved, the favors done, and the significant number require andwas done extradited investigation by a special prosecutor immediately, immediately, immediately. today, the ap reported that more than half of hillary withon's meetings individuals who gave money to the clinton foundation in some way, and yesterday brought a new troubling batch of e-mails. it showed messages between bill clinton's longtime aide and hillary clinton's longtime aide. request for meetings between state department officials and
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individuals who have donated large sums to the clinton foundation. the documents of raise questions about whether special access was granted to folks who gave to the foundation. of substance, my question for you, how troubled are you in terms of good government versus substance, and what is the potential political fallout of this unfolding controversy? public ise american tuned to the idea that the government is not representative of the people, that it is rigged, that there is cronyism, this could not, at a worse time. is something that is not good for american transparency and democracy. i am flabbergasted that this is not a problem and they had seen coming for years.
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the activity of the clinton foundation has been criticized a a peripheral way. you would think you would want to get your foundation activities on the straight and narrow. we have to of all, give that the clinton foundation does a lot of wonderful work around the world. distract, butg to those aren't the issues. the issues are access of rich people to people in policymaking positions. quohere is ever a quid pro its established were added to owner asks for something and the state department change policy, it will be explosive. we don't have that yet.
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there is still something steamy seedy, butught -- it's not the way either party would want visitors to be done in our government. the: you can't get past number that the ap is reporting. those numbers are a problem. clear about this. clinton met with representatives of 16 foreign governments that donated $170 million to the clinton charity. quo proven quid pro or asserted, but this is what the obama administration was worried about, and now it has the potential to be a huge distraction. trump has been largely disciplined and his new
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quest to keep pressure and focus on hillary clinton, which says grading him on a curve, he has not done anything to sideline his message in more than a week. keeps is up,mp what can the clinton campaign due to flip the script? john: she will give a speech on thursday about -- the trump campaign is full of people with news reports about mp staff that tru plays into the bat parts of this campaign. clinton is really good at misdirection. to distract as quickly as possible and focus on that. there was a massive new
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york times's that detailed donald trump's own web of connections to foreign governments, foreign banks, $650 million in debt, complex web of financial transactions that involve foreign entities seems like athat good opportunity for the clinton campaign to play defense. john: we will talk with our guest about donald trump's lack of transparency. on top of everything else, you have vladimir putin, and everyone seems to has forgotten paul manafort, ukraine, which is even more troubling than anything going on with the clinton foundation. there are plenty of other things to say. did not even get to talk about the pickles. a weekfter more than
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after the flooding, president n -- batonted batson rous rouge. sometimes once the flood pass, people's attention spans pass. this is not a one-off. this is not a photo op issue. this is sad to make sure that a month from now, three months from now, six months from now that people are getting the help they need. the benefits of being "with all due respect" five months short of leaving here is that i don't worry too much about politics. he may not worry too much about politics, but it is political season and the matter has become a source of controversy. donald trump has been hitting barack obama and hillary clinton for not going to the flood area sooner. say that what matters
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are the relief efforts and not the optics. is political season, a campaign, so who is getting the better of this argument right now? john: i think the president is under exaggerating. he has not cared about politics and optics for a long time. this is part of the obama playbook. he continues marching forward, favorables rising, and he will be an effective surrogate for hillary clinton. i do not think this is something she will have to address on the campaign trail. ton: if you go back further the longer unfolding political drama, the bp oil spill, 50 days after the beginning of that catastrophe, you had barack obama who did an interview that
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exemplifies what his attitude has been about this question of substance versus optics. guyhey are saying here is a who likes to be known as cool, calm, and collected, and this is not the time. this is a time to spend more somein the gulf and kick -- and the mediaa has run with it. i was down there a month ago, before most of these talking heads were even paying attention to the gulf, a month ago i was meeting with fishermen and talking about what a potential this crisis could be. i don't sit around and talk to experts because this is a college seminar. we talk to these folks because they know who potentially has
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the best answers so i know who's -- to kick. time, thehe rationalism were not plug the hole in the ocean floor faster. at the same time, people look to the american president for leadership. he has stuck to that. these many years later, it seems , everyoneis case now saying, stayaway, mr. president. i do remember writing on some piece of that the administration "had its boot on the throat of bp." call was asked larry and for indignation from the white
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house, and it was delivered from the press secretary. we were getting the indignation and the cool, cold, collect. up next, trumps emigration plan sounds awfully familiar. we will discuss that and more when we come back. ♪
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♪ welcome back. we are learning more about donald trump's to be determined on how to deal with the 11 currently inrants curley and e
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the united states. his proposal sounds not very new. >> i just want to follow the law. the first thing we would do is we will get rid of all the bad ones. we have a lot of people that have to get out of this country. the police know who they are. we don't do anything. they go around killing and hurting people, and they will be out of this country so fast that your head will spin. we have existing laws that will allow you to do that. what people don't know is that obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country. bush, the same thing. a lot of people were brought out of the country with it the existing laws. i would do the same thing, and i just said that. put itn't think you can in a soundbite or rush through a speech, let alone a plan. it is such a novel concept to people in washington.
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public opinion shows that the vast majority of americans want to enforce laws and not add more laws. alex: this sounds a lot like the current immigration policies we have in place. what is going on here? john: he still says he will build a wall. that is not obama. no wall under obama. but donald trump's deportation plan seems to be the same as obama's, except obama does it terribly and he will do it terrifically, humanely, and more tough. i don't know. we discussed this a little bit yesterday. that kellyanne conway is freaked out about hemorrhaging white suburban women in battleground states and is
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trying to find some way to get donald trump in a place that will reassure some of them who otherwise are kind of freaked by the xina filed racist, and nativist sort of stuff. -- ,lex: it is tight rope ballet give them the whistle that it will still be the harsh deportation policy that we have been talking about siding dwight eisenhower, but reassuring moderate republicans that it's not going to be the harsh deportation thing that we've been talking about for the last few months. you: bill o'reilly said liked operation went back. was not afford over do it, which is alive. in the world we now live,
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pivots are harder for everybody. it's harder for this guy given the things he has said. back, what hillary clinton was up too late as night after these words from our sponsors. ♪
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did not have facetime. >> do you do that a lot? >> i have. >> have you considered using facetime instead of e-mail? [laughter] [applause] >> actually, i think that is really good advice. was hillary clinton looking amazingly comfortable and relaxed on jimmy kimmel last night. study. stuff you what did you think? so much more relaxed than she used to be. it is obviously something she really worked on. there was an infamous appearance on the stephen colbert show and 2008. >> are you telling me that there is no one in this theater who can fix this mess that we are in? [laughter] [applause] >> i can.
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how are you feeding this? try toggling the input. >> ok. >> i just love solving problems. call me anytime. >> really? >> sure, call me at 3:00 a.m. john: why is that infamous and what is bad about it. >> it played to all her weaknesses. funny rather to be than letting comedy come to her. she is worried about getting a was right after the debate, i can fix it. i am the fixer.
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comedy by definition is not supposed to be on message. that was clearly the problem with it. we went to colbert and said will be on your show if we can cover these talking points, and she is clearly stumbling over them. she is scripted there versus non-scripted. john: let's play jimmy kimmel and talk about why it is better. on one hand, it is a serious chance for americans to tune in, and if they have not made up their minds. i want to take it seriously and talk about what we can do and how important it is, but you have to be prepared for wacky stuff that comes at you. i am drying on my experience in elementary school. [laughter] [applause] >> you know the guy who pulled your ponytail. >> but that meant he likes you really.
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maybe donald trump a secret crush on you. are you in good health? >> well, this is become one of their themes. take my pulse while i'm talking to you. >> ok. >> make sure i'm alive. >> there's nothing there. john: ok, so that's obviously but just unpack why that is better. what is she doing differently that makes it more effective and natural? she is not trying so hard. she's being reactive rather than proactive. she has loosen the reins a little bit. she is more comfortable in this situation letting the professional take the lead. , a comedy broad city she justhow, and blended into the atmosphere of that show. she went in and let them be
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funny and served as their her to prop that allowed be relaxed and in on the joke rather than trying to force the joke. trump has created an atmosphere of unscripted real talking that is unique to american politics. i wonder if you think the unbuttoned clinton is a reaction to that. he has created an atmosphere of off the cuff, unscripted that she is picking up on. is -- her have to do goal is to be a normal human being. i am a sane person. i am a regular person. you might not want to have a beer with me and hang out, but look i have ran children.
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that joke about the guy pulling the ponytail is a great joke. that is exactly how they think of donald trump. and is a terrific line probably not the last time we have heard it on the trail. element where an people she is not good in spontaneous situations. i find her better in these situations now rather than saturday night live. have a broad idea of what they will talk about, but they are not strictly scripted. it works out well for her. take my poll says you go along with this and then she gives a relaxed answer. that is good. whereas a script that says you have to be here, talking to a bartender, but it was funny because --
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and donald trump says he is the center of everything. you guys take the jokes. comedy.u are caring the you are the donald trump of the studio. hit. good good hit. coming up, mike murphy coming up with us next. ♪ . . [ clock ticking ]
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the cable networks are largely not making money, since the internet in the fact most will get their news on demand from broadcastce, television is definitely done. abc, nbc and cbs will be out of his this by the end of the decade and cable is on its way out because of the expense of the infrastructure. you can go and watch info wars online. they simulcast with a hundred radio stations and they've will about 5.5e will be million people watching. the cost to get on the internet, nothing whatsoever. well, that wasl, trump advisor roger stone delivering a speech about whether trump has plans to build a media empire after the election. joining us is mike feldman, democratic strategist and former chief of staff to al gore. and coming to us live from los
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angeles is mike murphy. , good to be book ended by both of you on this tuesday. what is going on with roger stone talking about the demise of cable news? is he laying the groundwork for the trump news network? mike: you are not going to find me that the end of broadcast television is near for a number of reasons. it is clear that there is a backup plan. it is clear that there are a number of people come right up to the top of the campaign thinking about how to harness constituents who have rallied behind donald trump and my guess is that can take on a number of forms. john: mike murphy, here's my question for you -- we have seen donald trump's behavior -- you are famously never trump and
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think trump is a disaster. we see his behavior in the controversy he has had. we now see himself surrounding shannon,ith steve roger ailes, sean hannity -- as trump baxley trying to win this election or does he have some longer-term endgame that is more hollywood than washington d c? : before i do that, my old friend stone was protecting the end of television on am radio. morse code is the only thing older than that. things change slower than they think. trying to tell the future of trump is a risky business because it is so dramatic. but he appears to be better at least at constructing the next great streaming business than a winning presidential campaign. he now has the pieces that could
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lead to something akin to what glenn beck did when he traded his own pay streaming network, getting a smaller audience but generating revenue. i don't know if it will be a heist for money rather than a presidential campaign, but there's no question the presidential campaign is having real. alex: we're hearing news reports today that donald trump has pumped to the -- has upped the rent on all of his copies now that the campaign is being funded by small donations and not trump's dockets. what do we make of that? mike: they saved because they are expanding their staff any more square footage, but i think they would hold themselves to a higher standard. between the airplane and rental space, there's a lot of self-dealing going on here. i think it's not a coincidence trump decided to up his overhead the minute he got his hands on an income stream from his donors. lot --e have talked a
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i'm going to get to hillary clinton a few minutes, but let's talk about a few things from donald trump -- he has not releases tax returns, disclose almost nothing about his health records, that out the law zoo, indebted to the bank of china. he is by far the least transparent presidential candidate of our lifetimes. will he ever start to pay a price for that? mike: i would argue he is paying the price for it. on a week when the conversation could have been about secretary clinton and e-mails in the foundation, he's largely step on that message with his own actions and questions about his own campaign. i think he has been paying a price. there's a sense that people are
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not being told the full story and people are looking at both candidates trying to figure out can i sleep well at night knowing they are my president? think he has gotten away scott free but mr. murphy's point, he may be undergoing a not at preventing him from releasing his tax returns -- i would be interested to read the fec report. of you these both question -- this question -- is there such thing as a pivot in american politics in this day and age? mike: i think you can evolve a bit at you cannot be the man of thousand faces. part of the problem trump has is that he has pivoted so many times, when is he not pivoting? he is like a real time pivot machine.
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it creates a number of trust issues for his voters. it's it has political interest to be less terrifying on the immigration issue but if he ever starts to gain traction, he will pay the price when it comes to his supporters that are very nativist. i think he has checkmated himself on that. you will see lots of pivoting optics, the occasional kinder adjectives. they will start putting soccer moms behind him at the rallies, but the core message never changes because it affects trump. i don't think any campaign management team can put it in the box. john: i'm not going to let you answer the pivot question because we are running short on time, but i want to get to the hillary clinton question. you are a supporter but not affiliated with the campaign. how big a problem is the
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foundation for her and how are they handling it? aboutit's a question whether people can trust and believe in her. as all of us know, there's a cottage industry of clinical industrial media complex that has then focused on this for a long time. it's interesting to note that the trump campaign has been focusing on this and i'm sure mike is wondering how with 17 candidates in the race they nominated the one who actually donated to the clinton foundation, which is an odd thing. have twoething they manage through. donenk the foundation has incredible work and it is hard to deny it. i hope people focus on that a little bit. that thesual foundation which would normally occupy a certain protocol for a theer president than how
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secretary of state came president -- i get the appearance problem, but i think it is a political issue and is very much seen in the political context. people watching the campaign with them you that non-and people who have to decide who they want to lead this country in the fall get that fact. .lex: we have to leave it there the magisterial mike murphy and the majestic mike altman. murphy's podcasts called radio free gop. mike: it is good. alex: we will stern -- we will turn from the state of trump to the fourth estate after these words from our sponsor. ♪
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john: who in the world would be better to talk about donald love/hate relationship with the press than my next guest? thank you for coming on the show. jim: glad to be here. john: sean hannity owes the campaign what? jim: he's not only a very supportive television host, he's also an advice giver. he would reject the advisor label, though not entirely. he would admit he has a lot of interaction with the campaign and people around the candidate that heson, don junior, is a supportive tv has to is not a journalist. john: if you called him a trump whisper, what he reject that? jim: i think you would like that. onx: there's so much talk
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the campaign trail about liberal have twos and you former news had that are active advisors to a campaign and someone who is currently on tv advising a political campaign but there's no discussion about that. jim: the tail that wags the dog is now the dog. alex: a very large dog. john: we just talk to murphy and feldman about this -- do you buy the conspiracy theory that he knows he's going to lose the election but between them he is setting himself up to run a media empire after he loses in november? jim: i buy it halfway. i believe he wants to win the presidency. i believe that. i have no reason not to. is nothing definitive. that said, he's had amazing success and he has drawn ratings and we have heard him complain why am i not getting a cut of that money? i don't doubt he's interested in
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making a media play. agree has at support he has been getting from bite -- from breitbart been in the news? that it is an editorial breach? the support for those policies and a kind of political campaigning? jim: i think at breitbart, it was the reporter who was allegedly manhandled roughly by sidednager and breitbart with the trump campaign over its own reporter. i think that's true. it looks increasingly like trump might want to make a media play. does there come a moment where fox says we are propping up a potential competitor? cozy up with hillary clinton? john: we have seen murdoch do this before with tony blair --
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tox: fox was created specifically be an answer to what was seen as liberal bias in the media. jim: there were stories about this during her senate campaign that there was some friendliness. i don't know because the fox audience, part of it loves trump. when megyn kelly fought with trump earlier this year, that was a problem with segments of their audience. it is intriguing and i would not rule it out, but they are running a business and need to keep their ratings. and thereer is dead are so any eulogies that one of our millennial staffers has installed a gawker blocker. should we care? the new york altar, media culture, us in the business -- alex: the fourth estate. jim: we should care on two levels.
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gawker was part of the media culture, the modern iteration of spy magazine. it was a reverend -- it was irreverent and went too far. it offended me, sometimes a lot, but it stood for internet era journalism. but to me, much more importantly is that a billionaire put out of his is through lawsuits and people say how can you defend gawker? who's next. alex: with all due respect, i was a long time tween reader of spy magazine. jim: i agree. it's the bratty year younger brother -- take the notion that gawker may have been irresponsible but they did not bring this on themselves. the story is a ruthless billionaire put a publication out of his this. end of story. jim: even if they did bring it upon themselves, a billionaire putting media out of business
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because he did not like what is thate writing, who -- what's to stop and oligarch from russia coming over? john: a word of advice for you. off peter thiel. coming up, trump movement and election.ans for the if you happen to be watching us and washington, d.c., you can listen to us on the radio radio ad bloomberg 99.1 fm. we will be right back. ♪
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alex: we are still 77 days away from the election but our next 'sest is assessing what trump
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candidacy means for the future of the republican party. here now to talk about it is the "washington post" political reporter. great to have you with us. from the piece that you wrote, trump's legacy is predicated not just on whether he loses, but the margin by which he loses. talk about that. if there was any doubt on the part on the part -- if there was any doubt on the part of traditional publicans that what trump has created is going to indoor after trump win or lose, his decision to bring in a new campaign chairman who represents the entire antiestablishment media environment put that to rest. so now the question for a lot of are assuming he's
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going to lose. if he loses big, they think it may repudiate everything he has stood for. that might lay the groundwork for the party to do a traditional rebuilding effort, but if it is close, trump is him is not only going to indoor, but there will be a major battle in the party over who is to blame for this loss. is that the people who nominated donald trump or is it the one to did not get on board? john: there's a downside risk to trump losing big, which is they could lose the senate or house conceivably. in washington dc, among republicans you know, is there more fear that trump wins somehow or that he loses? karen: the much hated inside the beltway republican establishment , i think they would like to see if he is going to lose, to do it cleanly so that there's not a
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lot of doubt as to what was to blame. they don't want it to be so big that it takes down a lot of senate candidates. incumbents are running better than trump in their home state that if the he'sm flat out drops out, going to take a lot of republican incumbents with him. alex: before the appointment of stephen bannon to the campaign and roger ailes as an formal advisor, i've talked to a couple s who believeder the coalition would evaporate or more into the -- morph into the broader electorate. does anyone think that's possible at this point? karen: i think not. ist they would argue is this not ever going to be a share of the electorate that can get to 51%. the fact is it has gained a lot
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of market share in the republican party. donald trump himself is not going anywhere. he will probably still be on the stage as well. you quote ed rollins in your piece where he talks about how the republican party came the chamber of commerce party and is no longer the party of small business. that goes to the question of populism. trump has unleashed these forces of populism. and they are very powerful. is there anyone in the republican party who imagines a future in which the republican , more populistst than it has been over the past few cycles at least, but not nativist, xena phobic am a sometimes racist? incorporateay to the good parts of populism and leave out the bad parts? karen: it would depend. interestingly enough, it would
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depend on substance and policy. how do they navigate free-trade? how do they navigate immigration after this election? a set ofey navigate policies that have become so dogmatic in their conservatism, so wedded to things like tax cuts that largely and if it's the wealthy that they don't really feel responsive to the everyday concerns of people on main street? withand this frustration the party that seems to be benefiting everyone else is one of the things that fuels this. you look at donald trump, a lot of people will say the groundwork was laid by sarah palin who rose to the national stage on an unlikely character for republican politics. folks is a donald trump's policies could actually win a greater role in the american democracy were it not for donald trump? if there were a better messenger, maybe this is a
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winning platform for the republican party. betternot only a messenger, but it would have to shed the kind of nativist, xena enophobic parts of it. there's a nationalism that has a appeal to large swaths of this country. alex: thank you as always. we will be right back after this quick break. ♪
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john: do you know what you can do? you can sign-up for the brief,
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our daily newsletter. it is brilliant. while you're there, please check out a great new story for more insight into donald trump's obama-like immigration plan. will you be here tomorrow? alex: i will be here tomorrow if they let me in the door. i haven't done anything to disqualify myself. go in peace and pickles. john: i say sayonara. ♪
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mark: i'm mark crumpton. you're watching "bloomberg west." heartbroken is how president obama says the nation feels after the flooding in louisiana
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left several people dead and homes and businesses. the president said it's time for washington to do its part. knowdent obama: when we how much permanent housing is going to have to be built, when we have a better sense of how much infrastructure has been damaged, what we need to do in terms of mitigation strategies, that is when congress may be called upon to do some more. the federal government has approved more than $120 million in aid for residents affected by the flooding. a u.s. official says the fbi is investigating a cyber attack targeting reporters from the "new york times" and is looking into whether russian intelligence agencies are responsible. a spokesperson would not confirm the attacks or investigation. hillary leads donald trump i-16 point in virginia. the poll has clinton with 55% and trump with 36%.

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