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the clintons unfavorable be of any rating is creeping up -- on favorability rating is creeping up. his address on immigration tonight in phoenix, arizona, trumps a down with the mexican president for a private discussion about that very issue, which in a statement afterwards, trump called substantive indirect before launching into a scripted comes to., but sharp warning about "is an open trade. >> in both mexico and the united states, this is a humanitarian disaster. having a secure border is a sovereign right and mutually beneficial. we recognize and respect the right of either country to build a physical barrier or wall on any of its borders to stop the illegal movement of people, drugs, and weapons.
cooperation towards achieving this shared objective, and it will be shared come of safety for all citizens is paramount to both united states and to mexico. >> donald trump went on to say and the mexican president did not discuss it would pay for the wall. hillary clinton instructed voters to pay no attention to the man south of border, not to confer trust in donald trump because he met with a world leader. >> getting countries to work together was my job every day as your secretary of state. op, it takeshoto consistency and reliability, and it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of insults and insinuation by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again. that is not how it works. aboutwe are going to talk
donald trump's immigration speech tonight in a moment. this trip, hastily arranged, haphazard, kind of a risky gambit for any presidential nominee. did it pay off? >> listen, you have to separate out the stagecraft. voters who have not been paying on theon may have turned tv tonight and seen donald trump looking differently than he usually looks. he was in a foreign country standing shoulder to shoulder with a foreign leader. right, itinton is does not erase everything he said the last year. i think jeb bush would agree with that assessment two. they were both trying to appeal to a very small group of motors who don't like either one of them. it is a group of voters who are not sold on either one, and they may have seen a new donald trump today in appearance. john: trump was very low energy. bushjor old friend jeb
look hyperactive in terms of performance. the reason nominees go to foreign countries is to try to look presidential and give people a sense of what it might look like if they have to do these meetings. >> some of them to go to learn who the other leaders might be. well, yes, it turns out that's why donald trump went today. to me there were a lot of questions about the goal of this trip. it turned out to be a conventional goal, to give the impression he could have a calm, subdued appearance. i don't know whether coming into this immigration speech whether trump core supporters look at that and say that is the tough talking donald trump who will take it to the mexicans. i don't know if they look at that. for those in the middle and worried that trumpet such a hot head that anything he does outside of american soil or on american soil is going to blow up. that was at least not blowing up. >> in terms of where he is,
there are some voters out there, the fact he did not show up in a foreign country and get run out of the place, that was a good day for trump. >> we are setting the bar low. >> very low. >> that sometimes where you have to set the bar. now we move on to the second topic, the more important one. >> donald trump will at long immigrationis tbd plan and how he would handle the 11 undocumented immigrants living in united states. recently, his team suggested he may be backing off the recent posture of mass deportations or maybe even a softening. ,rump will likely double down and i'm guessing we will hear about that while he says he will build despite it did not get that much airtime in mexico. trump is walking a high where as he tries to distance himself from his primary era proposals that much -- might not play well
in the general election. how long can he pull off this housing act? john: if you listen to what kellyanne conway has been saying and you listen to everything that has been happening last couple of weeks, there is a softening, right? he will not get up on stage and i didn't say i want to bring the deportation fours and kick out 11 million people out of the country. has taken softening place and it is a vague softening, there is no detail, he tries to stay way from that issue and talk about the wall and enforcing the law, i don't think it helps him and the sense that all the things he said in the past are still there and the clinton campaign is making it clear they will remind voters day in and day out about what he said about mexican rapists, deportation force. the past is always still present. >> the notion that he will now be labeled as being in the same place where marco rubio and jeb bush were.
he destroyed them. he ridiculed them. he called them soft. forlso insulted paul ryan his posture on immigration, so his attacks were among the harshest and the primary, so the fact he is now adopting the same positions they had because he understands a little more how difficult this problem is is interesting at best. john: kellyanne conway said there will be no reversals. with hishistory began acceptance speech in cleveland. if you go back to that, that's when he became the nominee. he did not mention the deportation force then. she want to set the clock in july. i don't think that washes. he either has to say i am for a anortation force or talk and explicit way about what he would do with the 11 million or say i was wrong before. i don't think he would do either one of those things. if he does not, it will haunt
him going forward. >> the political question becomes does it dampen the spirit and excitement his hard-core base had for him come in because that is what they were excited about. john: we will talk with ann coulter about this issue and she is the litmus test on hard-line immigration policy on the right. while donald trump was doing his immigration thing, hillary clinton started the morning are rolling out another republican national security endorsement. this time it was the former deputy secretary of defense under president bush. speech american legion and the shining city of cincinnati, trump tried to reclaim the mantle of american exceptionalism, which americans have claimed barack obama and his party have abandoned as a guiding principle of american foreign-policy. >> my opponent in this race has said clearly that he thinks american exceptionalism is insulting to the rest of the world.
in fact, when vladimir putin of all people criticized american exceptionalism, my opponent agreed with him, saying and i in russia, youre don't want to hear that america is exceptional." well maybe you don't want to hear it, but that does not mean it is not true. john: simple question, how clintone do you think was it counterprogramming against all this trump news? campaign and on a are confident that your base is excited and you're going after are oncans, then you stronger terrain than your opponent, and there is no doubt she is on stronger terrain with this message. on the question of commander in s they have made the
case that there are bipartisan people who support her. they need to extend the message to the economy. her economic message is still polarizing. although we did see last week that they rolled out those former heads of the council of economic and visors, including a lot of republicans, all of them trashing donald trump's economic plans. it bears saying a little bit more about american exceptionalism. it is the case that for eight years totally unfairly republicans have said barack obama does not believe in it, he has tried to say multiple times he does not believe in it, but to hear every clinton grabbed that and say, you know what, not only am i defending barack obama, i believe in american exceptionalism. if donald trump does not believe an american exceptionalism, it's another place which is trying to say to republicans, all those
suburban republicans, color educated voters, she is saying to all of him that he is not a normal republican. it is not ok for you if you are normal republican to vote for this guy, because in many ways, here on foreign policy this guy is way off outside the republican mainstream. and younk she can now, talked about questions of race, she talked about social security, is she can deal with she's ons, i think very firm footing going into the race. john: i think it is harder to do that. rolling out the endorsements helps. >> they help because she is in a hole. seens not seen as she was as a senator from new york or chi is seen as a polarizing figure. when we come back, we will head to mexico city, where all the action is, after these words. ♪
♪ >> joining us now from mexico city, eric martin. tell us what went down today in mexico city. absolutely extraordinary press conference and meeting today between donald trump and mexican president enrique peña nieto. this all came together in the last 24 hours. they agreed on a lot of things are set in the press conference they agreed on a lot of things, but at the same time, they skirted a lot of the hard issues. saidresident peña nieto donald trump's rhetoric has heard the mexican people, perhaps the reference to them
being called racists and criminals. donald trump said they discussed the wall and each country's right to secure its borders, but did not discuss who would pay for the wall, so a lot of friction points in that relationship don't sound like they were on the agenda. it was a surprising and interesting meeting, but one where we did not see that clash and those tensions on display. john: president peña nieto as compared to donald trump, talk in the context of hitler's, mussolini, how happy did he seem to be sharing the stage today your point of view with donald trump? lookedident peña nieto very focused, very serious, but there were certainly, there was a curveball at the end of the thing where we were told that there would be no questions, and then at the end of donald trump statement, some of the reporters covering him started shouting questions, and is donald trump
is want to do, he began answering them. resident peña nieto did not quite know what to do with that. he may have a longer track record at this point than hillary clinton in terms of not holding a press conference, at least in mexico. he sometimes will speak to the press when he travels, but i can't remember the last time where a presidential press conference with questions in little so he answered a bit, talked about that rhetoric which i mentioned, but it was a little bit of an uncomfortable moment with donald trump going off script. were histruck me comments about nafta. you have any reporting in mexico -- was there anything before this meeting are coming out of it about taking a new look at nafta? that is certainly one place
where the mexican government does not agree with donald trump. is alwaysn government highlighting the benefits to the u.s. of this relationship. they talk about how much u.s. content goes into it every dollar of exports from mexico. they talk about the benefits of chains,rder production supply chains, particularly the auto industry, a big one in mexico, so that is a point of view when donald trump and peña nieto talk about modernizing nafta, i'm not sure they're talking about the same thing. john: when the news broke this morning that this was going to happen, the donald trump was headed to mexico city, news reports said there might be protests, there might be outrage in the streets among mexicans about donald trump's arrival, how much of that actually played out? >> we did not see a lot of that, but there was scant's time to be able to organize anything. behind me is the traditional
,allying in protest point people might have had less than 12 hours to organize things once ehe news came out, so w saw people on twitter saying mexicans talking about how this could breathe new life into donald trump's campaign, but we have not seen a lot in terms of actual people out in the streets showing that opposition and the criticism of peña nieto, who by the way is suffering from record low popularity as mexican president. john: one of the benefits of doing this quickly. for your smarter reporting. thank you very much. up next, a preview of donald trump's immigration speech and the response we can expect from hillary clinton's campaign right after this. ♪
♪ we are joined by the of bloomberg, reporters covering opposite ends of the campaign trail on the set with us, she spends most of her time tracking hillary clinton. in arizona, jennifer jacobs is all over the trump beat. jennifer jacobs, i will start with you because this is a donald-y day. trump is on his way back to arizona. this speech, so highly anticipated come on the basis of your reporting, he's going to say what on the important matters of controversy? >> what i am told is that he will lay out some of the things he mentioned in that press conference in mexico. you heard him talk about those five goals.
i am told that that is a foreshadowing of what he will say tonight in his speech. i was just driving by the venue, and the place is surrounded by huge line of people excited to hear him talk about this. he will talk about securing the border, no surprise, cracking down on illegal immigration, improving nafta, stopping the flow of drugs into this country. he will talk about keeping manufacturing in this country and go through some of those things he went through in that press conference. >> what are you hearing internally about how we came to land on the word softening, which is becoming my least favorite word in the dictionary. it seems like maybe kellyanne conway and some of the communicators wanted him to soften his image among this group. what you hearing about the debate around that word? >> right. i'm not so sure that was his word and it came out of his thinking.
someone else suggested it to him, and he agreed. what he was trying to do is say the exact same things he has been saying in the primary, but saying it in a way that is not offensive to general election voters, so he had that softening-hardening quote where he said i'm doing both, which is fairly typical. when his campaign does not want him to do is really upset and be abrasive to those voters he's trying to appeal to. every speech he gives now, he lives a direct appeal to black voters and hispanic voters, every single speech, and they are hammering that hard. today the clinton campaign put out a video, which is one of the weirder pieces of art high -- i have seen in a while. >> art? they would >> appreciate that. >>it was basically a rorschach whatever donald trump says tonight does not matter, we will hold him accountable for what he said before. i think they are concerned,
not just on an immigration and deportation issues, but in general. they worry that now people are tuning in, people tune in more after labor day, that whatever thatys now may be all sticks in voters heads when they go to the polls, and they are concerned that what he is saying now may not reflect what he once believed or intends to do, and that really what she keeps saying over and over again and has been saying this for months is look at what he has done over the course of his life and career. don't just listen to what he is saying now at the very end homestretch of the campaign, but it does because the concerned that some people are going to hear whatever he says, so i will not deport everybody, and they will go with that and that is how they will make their voting decision based on those things. is there any debate inside
the clinton campaign about how to attack them? whether to paint him as the most extreme version of a republican or do what she did today, which is to paint him something that totally outside the right-left ideological spectrum and paint him as other. >> it seems like the focus has been on the other. she gave the speech on the all-right last week. alt-right last week to chooses if he is different from the republican mainstream, she's not doing anything to help democrats down ballot, and you are seeing this in some of the polls, where she is leading, like in florida, where she has a couple of points lead in polling averages, but marco rubio -- so there is the challenge for her to kind of maybe thread the needle a bit more towards at one
saying here is this guy who is outside the mainstream, but look , a lot of these candidates down ballot are doing the same thing, and if you are mainstream, come with me. john: i want to ask you both. we have to go quick ear. donald trump made a big deal about how they're going on air with this $10 million ad buy. some of that time has actually been bought, some not in certain states, like virginia and colorado. you know anything about whether there may be any softening on the question of that ad buy? >> no, no, they are not softening their ad buy. they started advertising in pfizer patent they are hitting six more very quickly. thoseo intend to pursue 11 key swing states a they are working artist in. polls in new wisconsin, clinton with only a three point lead over trump,
another poll with only a five point lead. those are both margin of error polls. how freaked out will brooklyn be when they see those numbers? >> and some ways they will pretend they are not freaked out at all and will discount those polls at all, but when they fund raise, they will say we are in trouble. and these upper midwest states where there is a white population there has been a concern all along that the numbers they have been seeing through the number would not stick up in the fall. , thank you,ennifers we love you. up next, a cult classic, and coulter in the studio after these words from our sponsors. ♪ . .
in my parents house, she's a hero. you what lovely parents must have. nicolle: i don't know if they are current -- but i want to start by reading a paragraph from the first chapter. until trump ends, the early transition from america from the raise nation in history to a pathetic, third-rate, multicultural mess, until the bleeding has stopped, there's that won'tmp can do be forgiven except changes immigration policies. at least one person found the timing of your book so funny. you have to watch this. >> who knew that it would be to come and convert
the gop base to supporting amnesty the same week and coulter's book --ann coulter look comes out. nicolle: he either feel sorry for you or he's laughing at you. the only onen lower form of humor and puns and that's taking someone else's joke and immediately repeating it. the night before, i was on chris matthews and said this could tv shortest bookstore ever -- book tour ever if he softens. but i said it as a joke. rush, it'sst everybody. i think trump did it to get me some publicity for my book. theever i give him slightest constructive criticism -- i've done it before. and give him him helpful suggestions, which is what i did on the hannity interview.
was givingsly, he magnificent speeches last week in tampa and fredericksburg, no change in position. and they just handed me what he had said about softening. on closer examination, he was appearing with the mothers of children who had been murdered by illegals. that would never have happened with another presidential candidate. nicolle: there were two town halls last week. shone pressing him and using the -- it was sean pressing him. he was just repeating what he was saying. but i do not think there's going to be any softening. nicolle: you don't think he's going to have a deportation force? ann: we have one. it's called ice. i think you going to enforce the law, which he has said one million times. trump's you trust
original statement? ann: the rhetoric could be softened. he started at 11. you could resent it in a way that's not going to frighten people, i suppose. but we've seen it a lot going on since the convention. i happen to like his free-form jazz style. he calls out jokes and calls his opponents funny names. i understand he needs to be more presidential now and he is being more presidential. you should show those more. i notice the media is hiding them because they are excellent speeches. 11 million are people and you think they should all be deported? ann: i don't think we should be giving them amnesty. john: so should they be deported or not? ann: trump has never said week
one we are going to have 40 million -- john: you think they should all be deported? ann: basically, yes. john: if trump ends up talking about a pathway to citizenship -- ann: that would be contrary to his whole plan. john: you would be done with him? ann: he would still be better than the others. i'm worried about him winning the election and saying you're not going to do what you've been promising to do for a year -- it's one thing to soften the rhetoric, but his entire platform has been put on america's interest first, whether it's trade, foreign wars, it's putting america first. nicolle: you don't think there's any security interest in taking these people out of the shadows and not granting them citizenship, you couldn't live with any eagle status? ann: -- any legal status. ann: i think there are more
transgendered in americans -- in america than there are people who worry about the comfort and security who are living here illegally and taking jobs illegally. how quickly it moves doesn't matter. get rid of the worst ones first. every illegal alien, and i described this in the book come in most law-abiding illegal alien with one child in school cost americans more than $12,000 a year just to educate that child. that's not even accounting for the astronomical expensive english as a second language, emergency rooms, this is all to get cheap labor for people who live in this neighborhood, by the way. the illegal aliens don't live in this neighborhood. they come in to do the made work and then go out and fill up other people's emergency rooms and schools and suddenly there's no money for the christmas pageant because we are spending so much money on english as a second language. even most law-abiding illegal of money.osting a lot
i never thought ice or the deportation force would act in an angry and aggressive way. we are kind people. there may be some illegals, but why does the discussion always have to start with a hard case? we have not been enforcing laws on the books were 30 or 40 years now. the wildu start with outlier case and rearrange the whole solar system to deal with that one illegal alien? let's get rid of the 40,000,001st. john: there is a big poll last 76% say that undocumented workers are hard working. they do jobs u.s. citizens don't want. only 61% are against the border wall. why are you in favor of so many proposals in your book that in a general view is so far outside the american mainstream? ann: i don't think it is. i have all chapter in my last
book about how deceptive the immigration polls always are. that one right there without hearing any more about the question, to ask about the illegal immigrants themselves, americans are compassionate and kind people. to be talking about it as if it is the people themselves -- how about should we enforce laws on the books or should politicians and plutocrats the able to bring cheap nannies and gardeners that you end up having to pay for? how about should we have more or less immigration? that is overwhelmingly on my side. these are utterly deceptive polls. whatever they ask about the past to legalization, they are loaded up with the kind of thing hannity was pushing trump to say about paying back taxes and air law-abiding. there are lots of laws that have unbroken. pay each illegal alien about $30,000 in earned income
tax funds. no illegal alien is making enough to pay that back. whenever polls ask do you want more or less immigration, north korea is more popular than illegal immigration. that's in my book. the poll actually shows that. nicolle: if donald trump loses, whose fault will it be? ann: i don't think he's going to lose. nicolle: are all the polls wrong? ann: i think it's more likely than not then he will win. nicolle: even some of his advisers think it's getting harder -- ann: thank god he doesn't listen to his advisers. the advisers do not come off well in this book. he got more votes than any other republican in primary history because he didn't have advisers and pollsters with their idiotic
talking points. but if he loses, whose fault will it be? ann: i don't know. we don't know what's going to happen. there's a lot of hypotheticals there. what washington insiders think they are getting out of there never trump group. they are destroying the republican party one way or another but if he loses, i don't guys can do,g you the country is over. john: i have tons of issues with the book -- ann: like my quote of you? john: i would rather quote your writing here -- people asked what most troubled him -- troubled them -- you write its true he was not mimicking any
mannerisms -- doesn't jerk around or flailed his arms, he's not retarded. if you look at his wrists, they are curved -- that's not the imitation trump was doing, he was doing a standard retard. are you suggesting he was not impersonating this man but a standard disabled person, and if so -- why this language? ann: there's a famous line from "tropic thunder" -- a whole little speech on robert downey junior advising one of the actors you don't want to go full retard. you don't like the word, oh well. the point remains -- john: let's be clear, it's not me that doesn't like the word, it's a vast swath of american -- ann: i think we all need to develop a thicker skin. i'm glad you got back to this
because something i did not know when i wrote the book and i'm writing about it in tonight column, it's an outrageous, despicable, deliberate lie the media has told about donald trump mocking a disabled person. he would not do that and said he would not do that in the proof positive is in the exact same speech, he did the exact same imitation of a general and the media knew that and they will not show that clip. he's done the exact same imitation of that when he'd is ted cruz. it's how donald trump doesn't imitation of a flustered or cowardly person. when someone posted those videos on the "washington post" website, the washington post took it down because they do want people to see that maybe he's not a good sketch actor, -- he was not mocking john: he was mocking a standard retard. that's a famous acting
trope -- you may not like my .ords he did it for the general, the general was not disabled -- ted cruz is not disabled. that's a media lie whether you like my words or not. record, don't like that word. , always ann coulter brave, never flustered. next, we will talk about race and politics. if you are watching in washington, ec, you can listen to us on the radio at bloomberg 99.1 fm. we will be right back. ♪
of thet is the chair center for african american studies at princeton university. " has a book out called democracy in black." topic in ourbig campaign. you say this is an argument only interests white people. guest: with not really about black folks, is it? it's about who can be labeled what and what their decisions the wayit's african-americans are courted in this election and how we are often treated in these election cycles and that's simply as chess pawns to be moved about. to call hillary clinton a big it is in some ways to say i'm not a big it and for hillary clinton to say let's look at what he said has little to do with what about the housing crisis and what happened in
african-american communities? what about public education, unemployment, jobs? what about the current state of lack committees and how are your policies going to respond to that? it typical american racial theater and that has little to do with black people. it has an effect on black people. nicolle: why is that where we are? it sounds like that's your assessment of the state of the conversation. i think these issues are more fraught and complicated to discuss now than at any other point in my professional life. what do you attribute that to? prof. glaude: it has to do with the vitriol unleashed by the election of barack obama. i talk about in my book something called the value gap. we talk about the achievement gap, the wealth gap and the empathy gap, but there's something more fundamental and it's the value gap and it's the
belief that white people matter more than others. nicolle: nobody raises their kids to think that. prof. glaude: it's not about an explicit belief. it based in the oxygen. i till this story -- you learn simply by moving about in space, just driving in certain communities and driving out of those committees, we learn how certain folks are valued. simply by moving about in just like going to school or going to work, all of this stuff is circulating. even when we thought we turned the corner with the first african american president, what did we see in response? we saw the vitriol of the tea party, we saw a wholesale attack on the voting rights of people of color. it's a reassertion of the value gap. john: we have seen donald trump doing this ostensible, , buttatious outreach there's an argument he's making which is that hillary clinton and democratic hearty take
african-american votes for granted. put aside whether you think trump would be any better, is there something to the argument? prof. glaude: absolutely. one of my colleagues talks about african-american voters as a captured electorate. the only thing democrats have to do is deliver them every two or four years and they just have to take a certain percentage to jeopardize the chance of voting. but they don't care about the issues facing the black community. you have a constituency with a distorted relationship to the democratic process. folks try to hurt us to the polls like cattle chewing cud. trump is the wrong messenger. i can't taken seriously. i can't take some republicans seriously. look what's happening in north carolina. republicans are going to say give us a chance. we're going to give you a chance
about cutting capital gains and estate taxes? give you a chance about purging voter rolls? nicolle: how about hall ryan on poverty? is there any republican doing policy -- on theissue, not conversation of race, but are there issues around which you could see being open -- you have problems with hillary clinton. prof. glaude: i have deep problems with hillary clinton. take as i have to sincere. how can i take paul ryan seriously when he talks about poverty and race, he backtracks on the comments he made earlier with regard to welfare as a culture of poverty. when they say trump is a racist, he doesn't condemn him. it's ok to have a racist as your nominee, but yet you are going to be sincere in talking about these issues?
it's a contradiction. john: you a lot of grief with this and we ran over on that last block -- prof. glaude: it's a shame. isn: you say donald trump more dangerous than a ku klux klan and yet you're not going to vote for hillary clinton. how do you reconcile that? prof. glaude: i don't want to vote from a position of fear. position vote from a of power. i live in a relatively blue state and i can vote my conscience. if you live in a battleground state, it makes a it -- it makes for hillarye clinton. but she is taking progressives for granted. we don't need to let our fear of donald trump keep us from vetting the policies of hillary clinton. john: we're going to have you back with more time soon. coming up, donald trump's secret teleprompter, after this. ♪
john: so everyone is quick to point out donald trump does not usually use a teleprompter. he's off the cuff and at lives and that's what makes him eight different presidential candidate. we don't have all the evidence, but what if this entire time, donald trump had been using a secret teleprompter that only he can see? our crack team of researchers investigated. the foundero i said of isis -- i'm being sarcastic, but not that sarcastic to be honest with you. you know the little being, being, being -- i love you very much. so she's married to anthony weiner who's a perv -- you know what that is.
look at my african-american over here. here's another one. go over -- go home to mom. your mother is voting for trump. paul o'neill of the yankees. you come from ohio? i was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here. who the hell-- cares? i like that much better. you have to see this guy -- i don't know what i said -- i don't remember -- maybe that's what i said. i never expect to hear that from you again. she said i never expect to hear that from you again. john: walk away from the lectern. ♪
mexico with the president. trump defended the right to build a border wall. mr. trump: we recognize and respect the right of either country to hold a physical barrier or walls on any of its orders to stop the illegal movement of people, drugs and weapons. mark: trump is scheduled to deliver an address on immigration tonight in phoenix, it arizona. hillary clinton told an american legion audience cannot make up -- told american legion audience that trump's trip cannot make up for what he has said about mexico. the brazilian president will appeal her removal from office. she became the second president to be impeached in brazil's 30-year-old democracy. legislators decided not to and are from seeking public office in the future. the first commercial public flight between u.s. and cub