tv With All Due Respect Bloomberg September 5, 2016 1:00pm-2:01pm EDT
♪ welcome to "the best of with all due respect." we decided to take a look back at the best moments from our show this summer. this week hillary clinton focused on fund raising. donald trump zeroed in on immigration after crossing the border coming meeting with the wednesday.sident on a poll shows that clinton's on favorability rating is treat -- creeping up into donald trump territory. hours before his eagerly awaited
address on immigration, trump sat down with the mexican president for a discussion about aat very issue, which in statement afterwards, trump called substantive and direct for launching into a scripted, subdued, but still sharp warning about open borders and open trade. : in mexico and the united states, this is a humanitarian disaster. having a secure border is a sovereign right and mutually beneficial. we recognize and respect the right of either country to build a physical barrier or wall on any of its borders to stop the illegal movement of people, drugs, and weapons. toward achieving the shared objective -- and it will be shared -- of safety for all citizens is paramount to both the united states and to mexico.
>> trump went on to say that he and pena had not discussed to would pay for the border wall. earlier today in a speech to the american legion in cincinnati, hillary clinton instructed voters to pay no attention to the man south of the border, telling them not to confer trust entrapped just because he met with a world leader. ms. clinton: working together with my job every day as your secretary of state, it's more than a photo op, it takes consistency and reliability. it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of , by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again. that is not how it works. >> we are going to talk about donald trump's immigration speech and a moment trade this trip hastily arranged, kind of haphazard. it's kind of a risky gamut for
any presidential nominee. did it pay off? voters that i've maybe not attention maylose have turned on the tv tonight and seen donald trump looking differently than he usually looks straight he was in a foreign country, standing shoulder to shoulder with a foreign leader. hillary clinton is right, it does not erase everything he said in the last year. i think jeb bush agree with that assessment. they are both trying to appeal to a very small group of voters who really do not -- it is a group of voters not sure of either one. and we may have seen a different donald trump today. john: donald trump was very low energy, he made your old friend jeb bush look hyperactive in terms of appearance. they try to look presidential and give people a sense of what it might look like if they were president. nicole: some of them go just to
see if those are who they would work with. john: that is true, but there were a lot of questions about what the goals of the trip were. to see if he could have a congress, sober, subdued appearance. coming into this immigration speech, whether trump's core supporters look at that and say, that is the donald trump that will take it to the mexicans. i do not know if they look at that. but those in the middle of the electorate that worry that he is such a hot head that anything he does outside of american soil or outside of american soil will blow up. that was at least, not blowing up. nicolle: and in terms of where he is, there are some voters, the fact that he did not show up in a foreign country and get run out of the place, that is a good day for trump. eric, tell us what went down
today in mexico city. eric: absolutely extraordinary press conference and meeting between donald trump and mexican president pena nieto. this came together in the last 24 hours. they agreed on a lot of things. or said in the press conference that they agreed on a lot of things, but skirted heart -- hard issues. resident nieto said trump rhetoric has heard the mexican -- hurt the mexican people, perhaps a nod to the comments of rapists and criminals. donald trump said that they discussed the wall, and each country's right to secure its borders. but they did not discuss who would pay for the wall, so a lot of things have damaged, and the friction point to that relationship, did not sell my kit was on the agenda. a surprising meeting and an interesting one, but one in which we did see that clash and tensions on display. -- didn't see that clash and tensions on display.
john: so president pena nieto has compared trump to hillary and mussolini -- hitler and was illini. how happy was he to share the stage today with trump? eric: president nieto looked very focused and serious. but there were certainly -- we had a curveball where we were told there would be no questions. and then at the end of donald trump's statement, some of the reporters that were covering him started giving questions. and donald trump began answering them. and president nieto did not know what to do with that. he may have a longer track regretted at this point -- a longer track record at this point than hillary clinton. he might speak to the press extemporaneously when he travels, but i cannot remember the last time a presidential press conference had questions
in mexico. they talked about the rhetoric, which i just mentioned, but it was an uncomfortable moment, in terms of donald trump going off script. nicolle: what struck me was trumps comments about nafta, he said it turned out better for mexico than the u.s.. and is the government of that opinion, or was there anything before that meeting or coming out of it about taking a new look to partner with donald trump and take a fresh look at nafta? eric: that is certainly one thing the mexican government does not agree with on donald trump. they are not benefiting the highlights, they are talking about how much u.s. content goes into every dollar, they talk about the benefits of cross-border production change, particularly the oil industry. they won in mexico. and that is the point of view, when donald trump and president
nieto talk about modernizing nafta, i am not sure they're talking about the same thing. john: when the news broke of that donald trump was headed to mexico city, the usual -- the news reports said there could be protests and outrage in the streets, how much to that play out? eric: we did not see that, i see the angel independence monument. people who might have opposed this had less than 12 hours, or a little over 12 hours to organize things when the news came out. we saw people going to twitter and seeing how mexico had so little to gain from this. mexicans who oppose him saying this could breathe new life into his campaign. but we have not seen people out in the streets, showing that
getting 9% of the bow. green party's jill stein coming in at 4%. the director of the center for politics at the university of virginia is tracking polls and joins us to talk about the battleground states. what should we be paying more attention to? these to a numbers that seem to be everywhere, or what people actually see when they go to vote, the four-way polls? >> the two way is much more indicative of how it will turn out, and the six point friends -- difference is pretty close to the polling average of about five points for hillary clinton. there is research indicating, and i think it is good research, that the four-way race, just by introducing the names of the third-party candidates, you increase their support. especially in a race like this. their numbers will go down between now and november. john: larry, i want to talk to
about battleground states. you say there are a bunch of traditional blue states like nevada, iowa, ohio, north carolina, florida, among those that barack obama one -- won, where is hillary clinton most vulnerable? larry: in iowa, because most of them are white, non-college, which is trump's bailiwick. and, a terrible recession, much deeper than the rest of the country. and we all know that north carolina is incredibly close, it always is. they could have a little bit of a blue tent this year. florida and ohio, it is obvious to everyone, they are highly competitive and on the edge. nicolle: what do you attribute
the tightening this week to? hillary clinton's numbers look a lot like what they looked like after the comey press conference. she gets a couple good weeks behind her, do you think this is a pattern we can expect if the contours of the race stay basically the same? larry: no, i think it is the gradual disintegration of the balance. trumps convention was not very impressive. the democratic convention was excellent from a number of different perspectives. hillary clinton got a big bounce out of it. just on schedule, the convention bounce has declined as we approach labor day, and we are back to a lead that makes sense. remember how polarized we are. i think it is very unlikely that
hillary clinton is going to do much worse than barack obama did in 2012. he won by four points. and in 2008, by seven points. john: let's look at the states that are traditionally red states, that they say the clinton campaign can put in play. for example in arizona, there are five other normally republican states that could be in play, georgia, arizona, and maybe utah, kansas, missouri, south carolina. which one of those normally red states as a place where trump might be vulnerable? larry: there are only two coup, arizona and kansas. but they will go for trump. the margins for him as the republican nominee will be considerably lower than for other nominees. it does not matter, as long as he gets one more vote than clinton in those states. arizona and georgia are right
for the picking, and yet, we are so polarized. on my map, i have kept them light red because i think partisans will come home. but if i am wrong, it will be about arizona and georgia. nicolle: let's shift to the state of the senate races. you say democrats are on the path to win the chamber. larry: the senate has 54 seats, democrats have to win four, assuming tim kaine becomes vice president and breaks the tie. there are two seats, republicans in illinois are likely to lose. so where will those two coup seats come from -- two seats come from? and pennsylvania and new hampshire are both leaning
that seriously. what do you think the challenges would be an main strategic objectives? dan: i would say do not take the wrong lessons from the primary debates. it is nothing comparable to the primary election debate. that is on a stage with 13 people, those were an hour and a half to two hours. the amount of actual time he was on for, cumulatively, 10 to 20 minutes, he had a lot of breaks during those debates. not just for as, but when ted cruz and marco rubio are fighting. and when chris christie and marco rubio were fighting. >> he gets to be king of the hill. but it is not just the time, it is the whole dynamic. but also the stamina. i was struck when i did the paint -- debate prep for rubio, but trump was actually exhausted.
he did not like the debate process, he liked his moments. but he did not like to stand there for hours and deal with all the fatigue associated with that. now he is on, with 100 million people watching, it is just him against one person. there are no breaks or distractions. and actually, hillary clinton has had much more debate experience that is relevant to these types of debates. her debates with bernie sanders in the last half of this primary process are more similar to what she will be dealing with with trump. her debates with barack obama, one-on-one in 2008. he said he does not want to do mock debates. just in terms of getting to that rhythm, there is a lot of stuff you have to do for that. >> i have a feeling, regardless of what is on the docket, if somehow donald trump when set -- wins that debate, go home, drive safely. and if he gets humiliated, he is
not going back up there. i have a feeling this could be our only debate. any thoughts on that? >> it is my view that everything except the first debate is up for grabs. the dates, how many there could be, for exactly the reasons you talk about. the trump campaign has not said they are committed to all three debates. so i think there is some chance for the reasons you say, but after that first debate, things could change. >> he would have to do so well to bail. even if he does well, i think he does not do well enough to say that i am done. >> in this debate, the best he could do is bring most of the republican voters home. what happened to romney after the first debate. it kind of, but what really happened was he brought home the skeptical republicans. i think trump could do that, but that is not winning the election.
>> but let's say the actions are negative going forward. i think people start to think a little differently. i think he is more concerned about starting negative that one ignorant gaffe, that one howard dean moment, i love howard dean, but -- john: let's talk about gary johnson. if johnson gets into the debate, it means what, for each of them? >> i used to think that he was just a problem for trump. that he just has the potential to get disaffected republican voters unhappy with trump somewhere to go. but you watch the positions he is taking and the arguments he has made, there is a lot there that could reach out to appeal to hillary voters and bernie sanders voters. so i actually think him being there could potentially be a problem for both of them, and it is not clear to me who. voters could end up going to johnson.
if i were either one of them, i would not want there. >> if you have the gotcha question for each of them, would be the compelling, one question for each put them on the spot? >> i do not know, that is a really good question. i think you would want to try to test trump on substance and policy in a way that does not feel ridiculous. >> it does not feel ridiculous to ask in the capital of an of skier country, i am not sure he can name -- -- an obscure country, i am not sure he can name -- >> the prime minister of britain. basic yardstick, questions about the constitution. he has been confused about the number of articles in the constitution. >> i tried to get him to reveal some glaring flaw that anyone as president of the united states should know. >> you don't even have to do that. i don't think you need to do a
true gotcha. one of the last debates trump and rubio were in, rubio pressed trump on policy. on his health-care plan. and rubio said, i will give you my time. imagine if hillary said, i will give you my time, explain your health care plan. you don't even have to do gotcha, just press him on basic policy. and yield your time. john: what about clinton in this context? the toughest questions she could have? >> dissecting the first term obama national security legacy. i would stick with policy and really make her own that period. the best shot republicans have against hillary is to make this a change election, and make her
the third term of what many voters think has been at worst, a failed, at best, and unsatisfying presidency. make her own that and deal with her policy legacy when she was secretary of state. it is not pretty, the world is a mess. john: you saw mitt romney struggle with immigration up close in 2012 and not being able to solve the deportation question and getting tagged as a deportation advocate. what can trump do tomorrow in his immigration speech tomorrow to solve the problem he has between what the general electorate wants on immigration, and what it demands? >> i do not think much. if you believe that tomorrow he is trying to say something to assure latino voters as opposed to just white, educated, suburban voters -- if you think he is actually trying to reach latino voters -- i think hillary clinton, the dnc, have a massive amount of resources to just remind that electorate that regardless of what trump says, this is what he has been arguing the past year.
with all these elections we follow minute to minute, we can to think this speech is most important or that one, but at this stage of the election, if you are a voter in say ohio, are you paying that much to -- paying that much attention to his speech or just the ads on your local broadcast channel with his xena phobic rhetoric -- xenophobic rhetoric? it is all about media and grassroots organization. john: just a make it clear, dan is famously never trump. coming up, a two-for-one. a two-for-one. best of within the best up. the best moments from both nominees, -- campaigns. ♪
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>> it is extraordinary, but get used to it, there will be more of it. mr. trump: if i'm elected, i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the united states. >> i do not think a muslim ban is in our country's interests. i do not think it is reflective of our presidents -- principles. >> a lot of the media and a lot of republicans do not want trump to win, but those that do, think this is being cooked right now in a way that will make it difficult for him to recover from. mr. trump: the republicans, honestly, our leaders have to get tougher. this is too tough to do it alone. but i think i will be forced to. >> the notion that you can go it alone and become the president of the united states with no help from anyone, it is all me, all going to be me, is not in touch with reality. >> donald trump used his signature line, you are fired, today. >> donald trump's message to his campaign manager, you are fired.
>> after months of tension, having two people bickering over personnel decisions about how he operates, donald trumps children and other advisers convinced him that this had to be done. mr. trump: hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> the themes trump chose about changing washington, not being able to rely on hillary clinton to change things, i thought they were well chosen. and he just so happened to be in the united kingdom today, he reacted to the brexit news. mr. trump: i see a parallel between what is happening in the u.s. and here. saddam hussein was a bad guy, but you know what he did well? he killed terrorists. >> the saddam thing has gotten as much attention as clintons e-mails.
>> there is speculation that has reached critical mass today. a lot of news outlets reporting pence is the choice for trump. he is the opposite of trump and -- in a lot of ways, and that will reassure people. >> i have a great deal of respect for john mccain. >> clearly this man is not a politician. >> for a lot of people his performance on 60 minutes was cringe-inducing because you have mike pence saying these things about issues he does not clearly believe. >> the twitter session of copying michelle obama. >> this has republicans concerned about the competence of the campaign. they have done nothing to turn the page on a narrative which is killing us. >> speak and vote your conscience. >> everyone talking about the fallout from last night, ted
cruz's endorsement-less speech. mr. trump: i gratefully accept your nomination. >> it left the convention on a high note. mr. trump: russia, if you're listening, i hope you were able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> there is no upside for donald trump to give ammunition to democrats at this moment. u.s. service members killed in combat are demanding an apology for talking about them at the convention. and the campaign is also dealing with a different controversy from over the weekend. mr. trump: he is not going to go into the ukraine. >> they went into ukraine two years ago, this is not a headline you need to be an expert to know about. >> we are organized in moving forward.
>> it could be worse, but below the scenes, there is panic in the republican party. mr. trump: we are reducing from -- your taxes from 35% to 15%, i am going to cut regulations massively. >> more than he ever has in this campaign since the general election started, he said, here is a coherent set of ideas that republicans and others can get on board with. mr. trump: if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is. >> he loves to be a showman, he loves to joke. this was a joke that was not appropriate. mr. trump: i call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. >> he called president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. they don't get sarcasm? might explain his new slogan, could i be any lower in the polls? donald trump hasn't shaken up
-- has shaken up senior staff. she gets on the plane with trump, keep them focused, that improves his chances of winning. >> paul manafort, out. >> my father did not want that distraction looming over the campaign. mr. trump: you're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, what the hell do you have to lose? >> the nihilism of what do you have to lose? as arguments go, you have to hand it to trump for innovating. >> first meeting with a foreign head of state. mr. trump: we did discuss the wall, we did not discuss payment of the wall. we will build a great wall along the southern border, and mexico will pay for the wall. john: the weather report in hillary land was a little sunny and breezy and heated.
her summer non-vacation. mrs. clinton: i believe the person the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. >> it is a sustained attack on trump, and she showed she could do it with humor and i would say elegance. despite what trump said about her, but a good performance skills. last night the associated press reported that clinton had reached the mega-majestic magic number to advance as her party's standardbearer. mrs. clinton: bridges are better than walls. >> she leads the race with a bigger head of steam than people expected she would. democrats have more confidence in her performance abilities the -- than they've have had in months. >> i am fired up and cannot wait to get out and campaign for hillary. >> it is tighter on a staff level than anyone in modern history. mrs. clinton: the orlando
terrorist may be dead, but the virus that poisoned his mind remains very much alive. >> she is playing at a very high level. her biggest weakness is a still the record. mrs. clinton: i have clearly said that we faced terrorist enemies who use a perverted version of islam to justify slaughtering innocent people. so if donald suggests, i will not say what it is, he has not been listening. economists on the right and left and center all agree, trump would throw us back into recession. >> i thought this was solid, sharp, strong, and made the case she wanted to make. not as effective as that first foreign policy-driven one. mrs. clinton: i am here today -- because i am with her. >> does she look like hillary clinton's running mate?
mrs. clinton: if clinton was a smart, she would seriously consider elizabeth warren for this job. mrs. clinton: the benghazi committee reported it found nothing. >> republicans could not have played more into hillary clinton's hands on how do you investigate a clinton? they're getting blowback for an ordinary and extraordinary private conversation on monday between bill clinton and the attorney general of the united states, loretta lynch. >> bad, horrible judgment. >> this will add to the partisan decision. >> although we do not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing classified information, there is evidence that they were
extremely careless. we are expressing to justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case. >> indictment or no indictment. if she was indicted or he suggested criminal charges, this would be one of the worst days in her life. she might not be the democratic nominee and might not be the president of the united states. mrs. clinton: please welcome me -- please join me in welcoming the president of the united states. >> the crowd here was in love with what they saw on stage. and the clinton people were in love with it. he was once a critic of hers, now a convert. that is a powerful, political plus. >> no reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence. should have known, must have known, does not get you there. >> hillary clinton won the day. they just were not ready to have the kind of strategy. they did not have a strategy. >> hillary clinton will make an outstanding president, and i am
proud to stand with her today. john: already a rocking, raucous, rollicking convention. infuriated by revelations brought to light by the dnc's wiki leak. >> to the bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous. >> hillary clinton should be nominated as the democratic nominee. mrs. clinton: i accept your nomination. >> all of those speakers -- that is why it looks more successful than the cleveland convention. mrs. clinton: comey: set i was -- comey said i was truthful and consistent with what i told the american people. >> she paid a big political price. >> this shows the clintons doing
what they said just, moving things along so that everybody wins. except some would argue, the american people. >> hillary understands that the most damaging single appearance -- thing to a parent is to look at a sick child or a child in need, and not be able to do anything. >> the biggest hole they need to fill quickly is around the clinton foundation. the fact that the clinton campaign is still ticking for -- taking foreign donations at this point is highly questionable. >> ap reported that more than half of hillary clinton's meetings with people outside the government as a secretary of state were with individuals who gave money to the clinton foundation in some way. >> it is clearly the case that is -- that there is a quid pro quo and they may have changed foreign policy, that would be explosive. we do not have that yet, but there is still something seedy. mrs. clinton: trump built his
campaign on prejudice and paranoia, he is taking hate groups mainstream. >> they have been doing very good at flipping to focus on trump because he gives so much ammunition. mrs. clinton: you do not build a coalition by insulting our friends or acting like a loose cannon. you put in the slow, hard work of building relationships. john: the summer has presented unprecedented events. our favorite moments up next. ♪
the most relevant story to understanding what is happening in 2016? >> wallace stepped into disappointment with regular, blue-collar workers and the elite. and at the crux of it, they make these decisions that you pay for. and we will not stand for it anymore. i feel like think that is a similar sentiment then you get the idea that wallace -- the voters of he spoke his mind. and the sense that wallace said something other people were not. mark: i thought, presidential candidates are really interesting and great speakers who work 20 hours a day. your first presidential candidate, equally unusual, trump. what gives the sense of what it is like to cover him day-to-day? >> is -- it is a wild roller coaster ride, or a hurricane making land on a daily basis. you can do one story up until
5:30 that day, and a 6:30 the nightly news comes around. he might tweet something or say something that upends the entire process. i never thought in my entire life i would hear someone running for president would say that someone else was schlonged. >> i think we will hear more pre-aware titles, as we say in the movie business. but there could be another filter where maybe a kardashian is not such a good idea, or someone that has done their homework, like a clooney or sinise. john: we want a long-term dock, cody simpson. you are not thrilled by the subject initially. what turned it around? >> this larger canvas, we want to do five hours. the thing about the five hours part of this, i was a supposed to do an article about guilt or innocence.
as soon as it happened, that i had a bigger canvas to work with, i could tell a story about los angeles, about race in america and in los angeles, about who oj was, and the lapd. these things i am interested in. and, i think of been overlooked in explaining the offense of -- events of 1994 and 1995. >> if donald trump was not our nominee, and hillary had -- but if it were another democrat, running against a guy like trump, the democratic nominee would be probably up 50 points. we have these two flawed candidates, and another missed opportunity that is missing in the cycle. mark: evaluate how it has gone to uniting behind donald trump. exit think we are moving in the right direction.
we will be largely united, if not entirely. and that is important because being united is not enough. we have to come out of here ready to appeal to moderates and disaffected democrats who want change. >> where are the bernie people from your state? what is their mood as they approach and prepare to leave? >> we have had an incredibly positive mood, and we have worked incredibly hard. nothing is rosie, but we introduced bernie as a congressman, put our delegate counts together. we worked really hard to make sure that we come together. and i think you will see that in our delegation. and you will see people yelling here and there, it is the convention, the democratic party. but the notion, the people that want to do something about climate change, he will say it is a hoax perpetrated i that chinese.
-- by the chinese. or someone who wants to do more with diplomacy will go with support of a guy who told russia to engage in espionage -- this does not feel like the bernie supporters to me. john: with our time when you thought she might lose to bernie sanders? john: -- was there a time when you thought she might lose to bernie sanders? >> i cannot say a was not nervous, once i thought about it, people say, did you see this? get nervous. i did get nervous. >> one of the biggest challenges this country faces is the threat of islamist terrorism. i am the only credible candidate who has any experience whatsoever, firsthand, fighting terrorist. i know exactly what needs to be done to defeat isis and other such groups.
and on day one, i can start that process. i have 100% confidence in that, zero doubt this is my wheelhouse. >> i will make you a deal, i will look him in the high, we -- eye, will have all the transcripts from the speeches and all the e-mails, i want the 32,000 e-mails. some smart kid out in silicon valley can get them, i will pay you. mark: what are the chances trump will win? >> looking at the polls, 20% or less. when i look at the polls today, if you take -- hillary is winning. but i will say what you said to be fair. mark: what is trump's floor in the popular vote? >> it is 42%, 43%. mark: what is the feeling of the popular vote? >> her ceiling is about 47%. he could win.
>> eventually everyone gets tired and exhausted from it. unfortunately, that usually is the voting public. everyone is exhausted and does not want to be involved anymore. but my hope is that a show like "hamilton," keeps interest peaked, makes teenage kids pay a little bit more attention to what happens in civics class, what happens before i was born so i can understand the context. john: coming up, we talked to will leitch about controversy around the quarterback colin kaepernick. ♪
when the first man landed on the moon, when president obama was inaugurated -- here is what kaepernick said. >> it was not a timing thing, nothing that was planned. but i think the two presidential candidates we currently have also represent the issue that we have in this country right now. >> do you want to expand on that? >> you have hillary, who has called black teenagers super predators, you have donald trump who is openly racist. we have a presidential candidate who has deleted e-mails and done things illegally, and is a presidential candidate. that does not make sense to me. if that was any other person, you would be in prison.
so what does this country really standing for? >> it is a compass -- a country that has elected a black president. can you say why the outrage in a country that has elected a black president and has done a lot of things for freedom? >> it has elected a black president, but there are a lot of things that have not changed. john: our friend will leitch has a column calling kaepernick's protest a pivotal moment for the nfl. and there will be many players who do not appreciate the position he put him in, even if they agree. you cannot dance between the raindrops forever. will is with us from atlanta. pivotal moments, though a bit more into detail -- go a bit more into detail. >> we have seen other players wear hoodies to support the families of trayvon martin.
but it has always been with an approving nike swoosh, things that people would not be as upset about. but it is one thing to support trayvon martin, but another to not stand up for the flag. in the nfl, the military gives money to nfl teams. so what this did was -- you did not have to go to major -- every major black athlete and say, what do you think about that, what is your stance? this is a story that seems like it has crossed over a bit. we might not know all the details of the i cannot breathe shirt, but it is the flag. -- but they know what it means to not stand for the flag. you will see major black athletes all ask about this.
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