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♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." this eveningegin with the presidential race. donald trump continues to gain ground on hillary clinton in the polls even as he comes under five are for the controversy of president obama's birth certificate. he writes about this conversation into k's washington post headline. post today's washington headline. i am pleased to have bob cost of back on this program.
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donald trump speak. bob costa is driving the news cycle. high was loose -- tie was loose. there it is. there is the scene. tommy what was significant -- tell me what was significant and why did he tell you he would not speak out on the birther issue and this morning he speaks out about it. mark: bob: trump is very confident at this moment. never seen him more bullish about his chances. he revels in looking at the poll numbers. spending 10 hours with him, this is still donald trump, someone at the center of his campaign, running on his instincts. campaignard his
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heager say a week ago, that believes president obama was born in the united states, i thought, that is quite a change in position. i asked him, what you think of conway's statement? he said he did not want to engage on it. trump said conway can say whatever she wants to say. this is still a candidate who comes out of that birther movement, a true outsider who does not follow the political rules. charlie: do you believe he believes barack obama was not born inside the united states? is: i cannot speak for what in his heart and mind. you have to look at someone's actions. i covered him heavily in 2011 and 2012. this is someone consumed by the issue. he was obsessed with it. charlie: as to what it might do for him politically? bob: i'm sure it was a
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political, publicity stunt. driven by ideology. on this issue, he was deeply interested, sending people to investigate, conspiracy theories. charlie: why did he change his mind? bob: he did not have his mind changed on wednesday night when we were speaking on the tarmac but he is under immense political pressure from fellow republicans and some of his campaign aides. in the final eight weeks of this general election, can he appeal to those skeptical suburban voters, minority voters, and college educated women? use trying to make a pitch to that he isrican and trying to make a pitch to african-american and latino voters. they take it personally. asaid to trump, you recognize lot of these black voters you meet at the church and elsewhere issue as a cloud over
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you. charlie: he is trying to discredit the first african-american president. is a cloudsaid it over the reporters. he think the press is to into this issue. the voters care about it. charlie: i don't know why he changed. did he change because of political pressure and he didn't really believe it? or did some of them caused him to say that i am no longer a birther, and they no longer believe the president of the united states was not born in states even though he submitted his lengthy birth certificate. bob: he gave a 60 word statement, something approximately around that range. that was it. states even though he toured his to word -- he hotel. i think he is driven on the polls. he sees a winnable race. charlie: number one, this comes from the national review.
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not likenal review did donald trump. he used to work there. bob: conservatives cannot stand trump because they do not see an ideology there. charlie: the editor-in-chief bob:said "if you are not seriouy contemplating the biggest black swan event in electoral history, you are not paying attention. trump had a weird penchant for proclaiming he was running for president. is close to being elected the 45th president of the united states." is falling. " what has happened? bob: some of it has to do with clinton and her comment about "deplorables."
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thinks that is that he sees his supporters as people disengaged from politics and he thinks he can roust them to the polls. outsider,total someone outside of partisan lines, and when i was with him in canton, and he saw this crowd, it is electric, working-class voters. they are not bush republicans or romney republicans, they asked for trump. he loves it. he calls it a performance. charlie: he does. bob: he things of polls like he things of television ratings. he made sure to have medal of honor winners surround him. yet four african-american supporters behind him. all of the networks carried him live before he made his terse statement. charlie: when you look at the constituency, they are in favor
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of hillary clinton. at the same time, it is a neck and neck race. are her unfavorable ratings very high. it is not about trump winning over voters. talk to talk republican strategists, they say look at the millennial's. it is not so much that republicans need to win them over. keep them home. charlie: hope they do not vote. that is why when i talk to the clinton strategists, i say what is the biggest issue? and they say turnout. they have got to turn out democratic voters. bernie voters were democratic voters. bob: that is why you saw clinton ize on this issue. clinton is talking about the birther issue on the campaign trail. in washington, talking about the issue on friday on the campaign trail because she knows a group of african-american with them -- women, this gets the base out.
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it is her base. a lot of democrats like her, respect her, but they are fatigued by the obama years in a obama andlly admire love him as voters, but fatigued by the political establishment intrigued by trump. she has run this campaign against trump based on temperament. wrapping herself around the obama administration, it is the figure of obama. what he means to many voters. charlie: what is interesting about the election, apart from the candidates, president obama is over 50% in approval ratings, yet the country is going in the wrong direction. bob: the mood for change is out there. a lot of these swing voters want change, but president obama remains very popular. she is trying to latch herself onto that popularity, but she needs to also find a way to be the change agent.
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did not beat quickly in condemnation of secretary clinton when it was discovered and we had the video and she went home to rest for several days for a day and a half. he did not think a thing. what is influencing him not to say something to take a non-attack position while she was getting all the attention on her pneumonia? bob: that was the most illuminating part of my full day with trump, who really has influence in this inner circle that is a mystery to most of the country. these names are not on tv all the time. kellyanne conway people know she is on television. stephen bannon, he is kind of the soul of the trump campaign. himself as a populist nationalist, and he has latched himself onto donald trump, the
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horse that can bring his worldview to prominence and power in america. david bossi, the anti-clinton investigator, operator, he is providing a lot of fodder for trump. killian conway, -- kellyanne conway is pretty conservative. the thing that unites all of these new people is they get trump as a new yorker, as a businessman, in a way that paul manafort never did. the other thing is -- too.ie: kushner, he is the liaison. he is someone who shies away from the press. he is almost always off the record when he talked to him. he is talking to businessman, connecting trump with the donors, and people in washington in a way that governor christie is in a similar way and new grin gringrich.wt
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is becoming more of a spokesperson. she is someone who he deeply respects and admires as a spokesman for his company and for his campaign. charlie: here's what he said you about his medical issues. i have done everything i have done. no more. it was just a few records about his cholesterol. bob: very limited information. i pressed him on this. this is a letter. your doctor has had some controversy and scrutiny for being a little different. charlie: he wrote the letter while they were waiting outside. bob: that is exactly right. the doctor is very respected, but -- charlie: wife you trying to shut it down? -- why is he trying to shut it down? asked him point-blank because i am curious as an
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american and reporter. have you ever had a major illness, have you ever had a heart attack? he said no. charlie: what else came out of this conversation you had? bob: he sees this race in a different way than i think a couple months ago. i pressed him on the issue of will he form a media company if he loses the race? i am background. the chatter there is what is this all about? is he going to start something with roger ailes? bannon, who ran breitbart? trump pushed that aside and said it is a false rumor. charlie: he really wants to be president. bob: i believe it. charlie: he wanted to be president for a while, not just two years ago. he wanted to be president when he raised the birther issue.
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there is no other explanation for me as to why he raised the birther issue is that he wanted to get involved in right politics. bob: you cannot assume trump does not want to be president. charlie: why wouldn't you want to be? he is clearly intoxicated by the process. i am in the as newspaper, i am winning. get my name right. spell it right. talk about will debates in a minute. roger ailes said he is my friend, we talked to him, but he is not an official advisor. what is he trying to save their? -- say there? roger ailes has a lot of controversy. there is a lot of concern within trump's orbit to not have role. have any formal
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they do not want to link trump to ailes. he is influential. when someone goes to trump's golf course in new jersey, and trump told the, he is telling all of these stories about history, his time with nixon, his experience in the 1980's and 1990's. trump loves it. charlie: what is his agenda for -- first, the debate is coming up. how does he see his own path and how he spends his own time between now and the debates and between the debates and the election? consultantspublican are advising the trump campaign to focus on certain swing state, north carolina, florida, pennsylvania, a few others. charlie: in north carolina, how is he doing? bob: it has been tough.
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triangle, educated voters, it is very competitive. torlie: he has to appeal college educated women in the suburbs, a clear constituent. it makes it a very difficult challenge for him. what else does he have to do if you want to score one of the most surprising political upsets in political history? bob: on the wind in front, ivanka is going to be on the campaign trail more. she has been rarely seen since the republican national convention. you see trump on policy. he is not a traditional conservative. he is advocating more spending on child care. charlie: he believes that tax codes will be paid for because of economic growth, correct? a natural fit
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with that wing. he has taken up some of their policy proposals. charlie: in polls, he is viewed on questions of economics and handling the economy of the united states, more favorably than she is. bob: he is seen as a strong steward of the economy on questions of tone and temperament, he has weaker numbers. your question is the most important one. what does he have to do between now and november 8? alliesalking to a couple , who are well known. one of them put it to me like not really about trump, but about change, frustration with clinical institutions and parties. can he hold on and ride this wave into victory? he cannot get distracted. maybe that is why he came out today. i have not spoken to trump about this. smalle out with a
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statement. i know his campaign officials want to get rid of the noise that has always been around trump because they see this wave. charlie: that is why they latched onto to some kind of identification with >> it which was considered -- with brexit, which was considered a movement. sense, he did not produce it, but he got to the head of the parade on the issue of discontent and the anablishment having had opportunity and failed, and what was necessary with a new direction. bob: one thing that really struck me was he was reading the paper on the plane about ford moving some of its operations to mexico for some of production. he seized on this. he started scrolling notes, i am going to talk about this. he has a teleprompter that he treats from for most of the
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speech. it about mexico, the wall, 35% tax he's proposing on board and others who produce abroad. --is not a natural charlie: basically trying to make the appeal that all of the things he has been talking about in terms of trade and saving jobs. bob: he is mentioning things like obamacare, some usual republican talking points, but it is mostly unusual talking points. heavy trade tariffs, talking about mexico and populism and globalism, and talking about jobs, jobs, jobs. that is what he thinks -- charlie: this whole idea of what did they call them, the alt. jobs, jobs, jobs. thatbob: that is a cloud over hm still. he shrugged it off. he said the old right -- the
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is a fiction. it is not. it is very vocal and has had a presence in this election. they have connected themselves with donald trump. bob: charlie: he has not disavow them in any sense, has he? bob: he does not seem to want to talk about the concept of the alt-right. charlie: the name has been around for a while. bob: it is the ugly side. charlie: 20 does that say to you?-- what does that say to you? he wants their support but does not want to acknowledge it? he wants them but does not want them? bob: it says that to an extent. i think you can connect back to how he handled the birther issue. he does not engage or even want to talk about any kind of moral side to politics, whether it is about apologizing for talking about were the president was born were disavowing the alt-ri ght.
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someone is talking down to their base, and trump does not want to go there ever. charlie: it is great to have you here. of the washington post, back in a moment. stay with us. ♪
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charlie: joining me now is nu
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ick. welcome. donald trump gave a press conference. we speak at lunchtime on friday and talked about the birther issue. what did he say and why did he say it at this time? >> he's finally said that president obama was not born in this country. he said hillary clinton had spread the rumor in the first place and he has now got to the bottom of it. nick: he seemed to have put it behind him without acknowledging his role in endologix in the first place. he has been hounded about it by the press. his campaign wanted to put it behind him. error ort admit any mistake but still somehow said the right words about president obama's birthplace. there was never any compelling evidence of any kind that the president was not born in hawaii. charlie: it was primarily internet chatter, wasn't it?
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nick: correct. her campaign never had. clinton herself never had. it was confined to the conspiracy reaches until trump came along and became the prime proponent of it for five years. charlie: is he in any way a hostage to the early supporters who gave him his first substantial core support in this presidential race? nick: he is 100% hostage to them. it is the core of his support. he has shown time and time again that instead of debating on immigration, let us say, he will not do it because he does not want to lose the passion of those core supporters. they are the people who brought him through the primary, the 40% backing him in this election. choice. either/or how does hillary clinton get the support she needs? charlie: when you look at her campaign, she has got a former
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president, her husband campaigning for her, barack obama campaigning for her, a lot of surrogates out there. are they making a difference? nick: i think you will see some movement out there. among the obama coalition, her challenge is to reassemble that coalition which had elevated turnout of millennials, black, and brown voters. it will make a difference to have the leader of the coalition, out and stump for her. out andtion come stump for her. theis trying to prepare for operative debility of it. it is not clear to me how trump is preparing at all. he has only recently decided he wants to get into the debates. it is going the to be a real tet for him. she is an excellent debater. he is good at front of their balance in these debates.
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i'm not sure you can see anything like that in modern politics. i am sure it can be prepared for. that before, when he was behind, it might have been his only chance to change the fundamental tenor of the election. it is closer than we thought. of them.time for both she can remind people of what they are getting along with his unconventionality. he can access a new pool of people who might take him seriously after seeing him on a presidential debate stage. it is a real test for both of them. stay with us. ♪
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all, i started when i was in my early 20's. 23 years old, a girl comes from europe with wanting to be independent. i was married. i was a princess. i wanted to be independent and i came with a few dresses that i designed. i worked in a printing plant and made these few dresses. i become this huge success with no experience, known whate ver. i truly lived the american dream. i had no licenses. business. selling the
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that was my first phase. that is american dream. comeback kid.s i come back in about 18 years ago because i see the young girls are buying the old dresses in the vintage stores. is in they brand dust. gradually, i get it back, the name, and a start again. this is comeback kid. at that point, my motivation was not to be independent, but to my successrld that had not been an accident. fashion is fashion. it has waves. later,, 40 plus years you are established. you have an established name. you are very much part of people's lives. my mother did, my grandmother did, i did. got my job, id, i
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did whatever. i conceived my son. you hear all kinds of stories about what happened. now is heritage. ok, howow is the time, is this going to, how did this brand survive after me? how do i plan it? personally, i feel like i have given, in terms of creativity and fashion, i feel i have given what i knew, expanded ainly have long time. i feel like it needs, i also always remember jonathan, when he appeared on the scene about 10 years ago. he started his own business. colors he uses print and , it immediately struck me
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because my business, i mean my fashion, it is very much about colors and prints and how you put it together in simple styles. >> your decision to step back and put him in place happened because you thought of him? diane: it is a combination. i was looking for someone. was i looking for someone that i would give that much power with? i am not sure. i was definitely looking for someone. and then, i found him. time, i amt the same i the moment of my life, uh, am 69. who else would tell you that on television, but you could see on the internet anyways. [laughter] thinking, ok, how am i going to live the next 10 years of my life in a way that i can still participate, that i am relevant, and not ridiculous. the best way to deal with your
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age is to embrace it. if you embrace it, what is it that i have to offer at this point in my life?? it is my. , my wisdom, and use my voice for people who have no voice -- my wisdom,perience, and use my voice for people who have no voice. it is a huge panorama of things i can do that will give me pleasure, that will help people, that will help women, and by the way, that will also help my brand, you know? i am still there. i am the owner. >> how hard is it to step back? somebodyis it to watch else to have put in this place take effective, to some degree, control of the brand and what it is supposed to be? diane: i know. it is very hard not because it is hard, but because you want
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him to succeed, and therefore, you think that you can help. when we met in london, when we met in london, after one hour, "we." saying and then he came to do consulting, freelance consulting, and he never left. and he said, "i can do this." how intelligent he was, how hard-working he is, and how meticulous he is about everything. i discovered all of these other strengths, that i am us he was talented. i will tell you, how do we combine jonathan and his power me, theompany and owner, the name, and all of
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that, and still around, and , andully for a while hopefully combine it. think about this. the umbrella, when the blast me how do you want to be remembered, i say, i would like to be remembered as somebody who told women that they can be the woman they want to be. i worked hard at being the woman i want to be and i want every woman to do that. jonathan is in charge of helping women to be the women they want to be by giving them the right product. beautiful handbag, the right dress, anything you can buy. i help women to be the women they want to be by finding their own strength and their own confidence, and they do not have to spend any money on that. >> what happens to the company? as it the company ultimately sell? company you
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ultimately want to sell? diane: you never know what happens. , there need expansion may be a strategic partner that could be helpful. i mean, you know, but i -- it has lived so long, it may as well continue to live. >> when you talk to jonathan for the first time for him to explain to you what he wanted to do with this business -- diane: we celebrate freedom. freedom means freedom of being, freedom of movement, so it is simple. right?wer women, you give them confidence. and we inspire confidence. .hose are the things colors are very important. softness is very important. we have that in common.
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that is why a lot of people even before they saw anything thought it would be a perfect match. fashion and a little bit about this business. there is something to be said, an argument made in the b tell world, that there is no new fashion. reasons -- in the business world, that there is no new fashion. diane: i don't know who told you that. it is completely wrong. the whole fashion industry is struggling because there is a product pollution. there's too much of everything in every color in every this, and too many stores, too many this, too many discounts. that is the problem. it is not true. fashion is, i mean, you manot think it is fashion, but all of a sudden, everybody being very casual, that is fashion. it is not true.
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there is a lot of really talented new designers. it is just that, it is like for any industry, the digital revolution has changed everything. everything. you can see everything immediately, you can shop, you can ask for something the same. it has changed everything. the industry right now is surfing a tsunami. fashion week was a trade, it is trade. it is a time that buyers, partners, and the press would, and review, and then they would write a review, photograph one thing, it would be in "the new york times," and this and that, and six month later, people store.et it in everything was six months late. celebrity started to go to the shows.
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celebrities instagram and all of that. then it became completely confusing for the consumer because they saw things they could not buy. a few months ago, i called in the chairman of dcf da -- of the and i said, i do not have the solution and nobody has the solution, so i wanted to feel like young designers did not have to spend all of their marketing budget on a fashion show that really at the end did not hurt them more than this. right now, you have a confusion of a lot of things. is doingren tomorrow another thing. it is confusing, so no one has really figured out how it will really -- >> does the business have to change? diane: there are three things that have to change. we have to do a cadence of markdowns.ns -- of
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inhappens because people june, it is about to get hot, rsd you have coats and fu in the source. it makes no sense. go back on calendar some people find what they need when they need it. calendar discounts, and then decide about the fashion show, how much do you want to reveal to everybody? by the same token, everybody talks about show now, wear now. it is not like you see an instagram and you want it right away. you have to digest a little bit. sometimes you go to it right away, but it is not immediate. you have to digest. you do not have to digest six months. at, youngyou look designers, you say, you know what, that is pretty interesting and reminds me of myself. diane: i was the first woman who
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socialite,kind of although i cannot say that, i cannot believe i would ever say that. i mean, i was the first one. after that, there was a lot. anytime there is a woman that olivia, birch, girl, of course i relate to them. i really to any woman. -- i relate to any woman. i am the godmother. diane: >> no >> but there is nobody right now. diane: i am the mother of all the american designers. i am not supposed to tell you that because i should protect everybody. >>diane: ok. thank you. roger ebert talks to
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s ofdirector and star the new movie "snowden." ♪ the new movie
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>> good evening. filling in for charlie rose, who is a away this week. "snowden" is a new film by
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oliver stone. it tells the story of the far-reaching reach in u.s. he has been called a hero and a traitor and become one of the most polarizing figures of the 21st century. in the new film, al qaeda, audiences will get a personal look at the man behind the headlines and the relationships he risks by his decision to leak top-secret information. edwards noted causey the film "as close to real as you can get." "as close tofilm real as you can get." before we get into the stores, i need to know more about you. old.d 59 years i work as a private contractor for the nsa, for the csa. they are going to come for me. they are going to come for all
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of you, too. >> how about we start with your name? >> my name is edward joseph snowden. >> what was it you were doing again? >> analysis for the state department. >> don't be shy. >> the modern battlefield is everywhere. >> how is this all possible? >> think of it as a google search. instead of just searching for everything people make public, we search for things they do not. >> are they watching us?
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>> one man can stop the motor of the world. >> what is it about this job that makes it more important than your life? snowden has been charged with espionage. you have no idea what it is like to be accountable for other people's lives. >> are you going away? >> joining me is the director, oliver stone, and the film's ands, joseph gordon levitt,
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that frequented, who plays former guardian journalist glenn greenwald. i am pleased to have them at this table. welcome everybody. why edward snowden? [laughter] is an historical figure outside our time. he addressed something that we did not know. he made the world aware that our government has deployed and created and deployed a massive andrnational spying system surveillance system. without democratic consent. he is the one who brought it out. i believe he made it, he did so out of conviction and love of country. >> i visited the set briefly. one of the things that struck me is the level of security precautions you were taking to avoid the script leaking out.
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from the beginning, we operated off the grid as much as we could. we kept everything on paper. we used all forms of encryption available at the time. actors and other parts of the world had to read something to whether to do the part or not and we sent it in pieces to whatever country, and sometimes, and the phones, that was another issue, yes. we had our offices debugged. in germany, we felt more comfortable, that is were we shot most of the film. we know from the snowden papers that germany is a main target of the u.s.. but still, we functioned in a good atmosphere. people were more, how do you say, prone to snowden's cause because they suffered under the communist regime and the nazis. >> edward snowden is not necessarily universally loved.
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looking at opinion polls, and a large majority of he was ans think traitor, and a lot of democrats have doubts about him, too. this film entries him as an ambiguous he a good thing for this country. unambiguously a good thing for this country. important to see how he feels and what his relationship was. , and they helpal support what he is feeling and doing. characteryou get into historically when you're paying a real person as ultimately you were doing, do you meet with a real person, do you study to jump them, do you listen to tapes or do you create your own version of them and go? >> i think it is different for all of us and different on this project. the film is called "snowden."
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personally, it was important to know the function of the character, which is to contextualize the story, to capture the urgency and vulnerable that he of these people -- born or ability -- vulnerability at this time. i did not get a chance to meet glenn in preparation of going into production. i was able to read many of his articles, watch interviews, debate, his book, "no place to hide." there was no shortage of material. function thathe my character served, that was more than enough for me to draw from to feel like i can capture those things and will honor him as a journalist and a person. >> how about you?
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>> going into it, oliver had met her, and the other writer of the screenplay. i trusted the character in nice trip was based on the person they had come to known. i did research. she had passed social media posts that have not been taken down since ed did what he did. shailene: there was a lot of her photographs online with blog posts about them. there is only so much insight when it comes to figuring out a human being from the two-dimensional cyber world because you can be anyone you want to be. a lot of it was creating a character that they had come to know, but also replicating the human they had come to know, but also being really truthful in the character i was playing because above all else, i had never played someone who was real before. apart from wanting to give a good performance and being
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truthful, and making sure the actors you are working with feel honored by what you are doing, not honored, but feel like they trust you with the performance, you want to make sure you are honoring and protecting the of you aref who all talking about. they are in moscow right now in real-time. he is a historical figure who is still dealing with the repercussions of what happened, casually,e discussing what is their daily reality. being mindful of that and mindful of wanting to protect what this movie was for them as well. >> what do you think about all of that? did you meet edward snowden, steady edward snowden? to what degree are you try to capture the physicality of this guy? >> both. when you are acting, people talk about acting from the inside out and acting from the outside in. some actors say they
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prefer one or the other. a mix of both is what works best for me. joseph: i studied as much as i could as far as what he said about why he did what he did, and you know, what was going through his head as he made his decision to act. , ando did get to meet him when i got to meet him, my focus was actually less on those sorts of politics and more just on him, which is funny because he's trying to take the attention off of himself and put it on the issues he is bringing up, which i admire, but sort of disobeyed because i was focused on him personally, how he sits or stand or walk for talks or how he shakes your hand, or how he eats. we ate lunch together. these are the nuances that were really valuable to me as i was putting together a performance. me one example of something you gleaned from studying him that you use in your performance? joseph: i noticed right off the bat from the very first moment i
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met him, he is very gentlemanly. you do not necessarily expect that because the stereotype in our culture, right or wrong is that guys who are good at computers are socially awkward. admit, i was may be guilty of some of that expecting he might be that way because he is really good at computers, but that is not what i found. he looks you right in the eye and gives you a warm handshake. he is almost old-fashioned in his sort of manners. expecting he might that was something i really wanted to incorporate. >> i know you are starting to root for him. i have been watching your inner liberal grow. >> you deserve it. >> what is this? that, just leave that there. , they canckers
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activate webcams now. >> that is creepy. >> bothering me. >> you should not let it bother you. >> it is not a big deal that someone could be watching you right now? >> let us talk about the relationship between these characters and the role it plays in this story. us aree: a lot of familiar with the name edward snowden. has a lot of strong opinions about him, whether they agree with what he did or not. they had a lot of strong judgment. those beliefs are based off only a few narratives. those of analyst, our government, has a lot of strong -- of journalists, our government. we do not know the whole story. this movie, you see why he did what he did, but it is grounded in the humanity that is the relationship of lindsay and ed. it is something all of us can relate to, the foundation of
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love, and the trials and tribulations that occur within partnership, and lindsay, they have been together for nine years, when ed decided to do what he did. throughout those nine years, there is obvious up and down's, but they stayed together and it was not always easy. he was not able to explain to what he was encountering at work, what information he had been entrusted with, and what he was doing, but there is still a foundation of the relationship that kept them together. >> did working on this film center on habits when it came to privacy? do you do anything differently? do you think about things differently? >> aikido is very cavalier when it came to my relationship to algae. subsequently, i have put tape over the camera on my laptop. i reinforce all of my passwords. zachary: the bottom line is, if
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they want to get in there, they are going to. people are far more advanced than i will ever be when it -- with that kind of thing. it certainly, we were talking about the distinction between paranoia and awareness. paranoia suggest there is nos credible reason for concern, which obviously, in this case, is not applicable. this is about the aware and vigilant and being as proactive as possible in addition to the responsibility we have to hold our government accountable to intrusioncriminate and constitutional violation of our privacy. we also have the opportunity to be aware of how vulnerable we are and to protect ourselves. that is something i have tried to do as much as i can. >> oliver, tape over the laptop camera, yes or no? oliver: yes. >> thank you very much for coming by, and good luck with
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the film. >> thank you. ♪
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♪ tonight, we are covering all the political angles of the terrorism related incident that spanned three states over this past weekend. today, the man believed to be responsible for saturday's explosion in manhattan and new jersey was taken into custody after exchanging fire with garden state police. authorities said he is a naturalized citizen who was born in afghanistan or reportedly traveled there several years ago. there is no direct evidence that links him to the islamic state, al qaeda, or other international terrorist groups.

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