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♪ >> welcome to this brand-new edition of the best of "with all due respect." trump going all in and declaring the election rigged. hillary clinton heading big on red states in the nation getting front row seats to take a stage show. the third and final presidential debate is over and the reviews are in -- the final match between trump a clinton was one for the history books. that is where we begin tonight. donald trump supernova of suspense the republican nominee walked off the debate since having created one mega galactic
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problem for himself when he refused to say he would accept the result of the presidential election. here's every try to clean up the mess. >> i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states, acceptwill totalyly the results of this great and historic election, if i win. would accept a clear election result but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable results. efforto, mark, with its today do you believe donald trump has put this matter behind him effectively? mark: he compounded one error
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with another first history will live on now in the absence of debates i don't expect any of the big news to occur he has created a second day problem by saying something that is almost as offensive to people underneath seven layers of rhetoric he has a point but it is under seven layers of rhetoric. the way he has talked about this has offended people across the country. he only compounded his problems. john: the reality come we do not problem ofspread voter fraud. in the things that we have as many states with mandatory recount laws of the vote is close. he don't need to unveil yourself of those rights. one is not a problem the second one is handled. we have recount and examinations. i don't understand why if you wanted to make the second point to say that i will make sure
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everything is legitimate here why did he need to say the first thing? the first thing the soundbite that will play forever i will accept if i win which is as you said is in some ways worse to what he said the night before. mark: he took a solid debate performance and undermined by this. i watched a lot of coverage last night it is all everyone is talking about. now, the storyline change tomorrow? maybe with this will linger in history and in the news cycle. john: to be clear there's a reason why it is lingering. republicans elected republicans currently in office and former republicans the former chair of the republican party said it was disqualifying. this is something no major party nominee has ever said or done before to suggest that they would not abide by the peaceful transfer of power. huge abdication of a basic democratic principle. we are not just being media freaks. your leads can more
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about this than regular people and i think that is true. you lead to control the coverage and the political talk. people who really care about this and drive the coverage. john: no doubt about that. they care more about it but there were lots of normal americans were upset about this last night. mark: democrats have no intention of letting this issue go. after the debate, hillary clinton pater press corps a visit and dean donald trump remarks were fine. some of her top surrogates twisted the knife more on the tv airwaves. if you asserttion that a democratic election is fixed you are attacking the very essence of the notion of whether not we have a democratic system. after a campaign where he insulted everybody else now will insult the very central premise
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of our democracy was a huge shocker. when you try to show the seat of doubt in people's minds about the legitimacy of our elections that undermines our democracy. then, you're doing the work of our adversaries for them. our democracy depends people knowing that their vote matters. they're plenty of republicans were critical of what trump said last sent including senator john mccain. before the debate last that we agreed that trump's chances were between slim and none. does the prospect of a hail mary come back now after what he said last night become more remote? john: last night's chances were between slim and none now slim is packing his bags. this is, again, there are many days still.
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i don't will of the possibilities of cataclysmic thing happening. in the absence of that i think this thing is cooked. there's not a way. this was his last-ditch checked and is now spent one full day we just said he will spend more days now justifiably answering criticism for this crazy thing he said. mark: it is criticism and keeping him from having anything positive going on. it is keeping a from arguing that he actually won the debate. he lost the debate and one single remark. but the good been judged that way anyway. but, the reality is the polling data now has gotten worse. and noless time now other big events. the other thing, the perception is now more than ever. john: he needed to gain some new votes of the things he said last night do not gain him' it almost
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certainly lost them some vote. there are some who said i don't my president. now the split in the republican party is even wider. you're calling into question the electoral system and don't want any part of that. mark: when they are angry at the press, they do not perform well. wassaid one thing that completely out of bounds. john: you talk about why hillary clinton has the advantage because of the sara gets. they today think they have the boot on trump's throat and pushing down hard now. >> more the best after these words from our sponsors. ♪
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>> you might have heard that last week in new hampshire and gave a speech. [cheers] sense thatust say, my office has been flooded with thousands of letters and e-mails from folks all across the country. values ofut for the decency and respect that we all hold the deer, men of all backgrounds agreeing that these -- decent demand do not demean women. [cheers] not tolerate this behavior from any man let alone one that was to be the president. >> that was first lady michelle obama criticizing donald trump and every zone and not too long ago. the first lady was there were several power democratic ceric it's hammering donald trump. with us from the city of brotherly love is above the try
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to just kim and mike. of the things that it's been happening since last i went donald trump made this comment about not necessarily accepting the results of the election is that people on his campaign out there in the country have been saying what is so bad about that? al gore contested that. given your close to vice president gore and part of this or explain to us whether they have a point or not. a point but it is the wrong point. this is been well litigated today. 2000 was a disputed election. as you know, florida was under recount by law. nobody would doubt that it was good to go through every legal process they could to determine the will of the photo was honored by the process.
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again, when the highest court in stop theweighed in and recount al gore and plenty of people were encouraging vice president gore to pursue it further he not only graciously conceded the election but told everybody don't trash the court. there's a fine line between --rchy and a disputed scrimp supreme court decision. it was a good moment and what concerned me about last night about people using that example when in fact what mr. trump did last night was the very opposite of that graciousness. it might everybody we stand with the nominee. are you voting for him? kim: i'll keep you in suspense. john: very good. [laughter] john: let's this program and in your phone rings and it is kellyanne conway on the speaker saying that mr. trump decided that the debate answers not good he wants something new to put
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this behind terrorists -- put this behind us what would you tell to do? kim: stop trying to be so clever. the people were supporting him and disgruntled with washington in the system wants to hear that he takes it too far. i think that happened to him a couple of times in the debate last night. he has good gut instincts about what is going on in the hearts and minds of people, then tries to be too clever instead of just laying that out there. john: when you were watching the debate was a moment when hillary clinton metta, the but not paying taxes and he snapped at her and called her a nasty woman. i have women all day today who felt and read into that not just a snapping as but a kind of misogyny that upset them. do you as a woman in republican
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woman when you heard that did you groan? what was your reaction? kim: a suburban pennsylvania voter. so, look, i think that i don't like the guy. i really don't. i think the people are getting bunch over a in a lot of stuff. he says things in an incendiary way. but he treated her like any of the guy on the stage. if you're a woman in the business like i have been in a long time where there were no women i would've taken that as a complement not that i would want anyone to talk to me that way but i would have gotten so upset over that. i think the bulk of everything he has been talking about does turn them into a really big jerk. are actions as well
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important. there is some as actions have been pretty gross too. john: so if philip clinton calls you and his everybody says things are going well come to the headquarters tomorrow and interview everybody in the staff to make sure we're doing everything we need to do who would you talk to? mike: i think they're doing a pretty good job. it was overshadowed last night by these comments that mr. trump made. she has got to start laying outcome of this election for selectica the election were tomorrow people would view as a total repudiation of her opponent and not a mandate for her. you saw her starting to do that last night to try to talk to independent moderate republicans and others for to know but he heard very much of it just because of the outcome of the debate. they need to think about how they will govern in addition to how they will turn out their boat. thing, i agree with what you
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said of the substance, the does matter. preparation for debates matters. what this debate showed is that a lack of preparation and discipline which is troubling and a potential president. it is not like mr. trump didn't know there will be a question about his comments. every single member of his team was giving them a trail of breadcrumbs for that answer. yet, he still dominated the news the day after i make a comment that was clearly viewed out of bounds by people in his own party. both the sameyou question, michelle obama's down in arizona. the polls in texas are close, , their placesuri the clinton campaign is suddenly playing. today, do you think hillary clinton will win by -- what? mike: i don't know.
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a this is the look like landslide? >> electorally, sheila very good night. her campaign methodically hesitant to fighting communicated with the voters. they have a pretty good idea who will show up as the trump campaign is less idea who will show up. took the campaign will do for the next few weeks which is sara gets, principles, everybody out there trying to energize. a dispassionu are to feel a landslide? does this still feeling a tight election to you? kim to predict anything in this election because i was on six months ago i got everything wrong. i will lead with that caveat. i think we can take a landslide , itan't predict a landslide
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is sort of rigged on the what they don't work but it is with the electoral college leans democrat to begin with. but, i don't think this is a left right split anymore. bottom split.of how that plays out on election day will be new and different for all of us to look at. alike, is a good any chance donald trump wins pennsylvania? in suspense.p you [laughter] >> kim is taking a pass of a lot of questions today. thank you for being here today. when we come back donald trump's echo chamber of conspiracy and the tree always talk about all of that and more. ♪
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♪ >> welcome back, a lot going on politically today. here now with as a reporter from the washington post. a great story looking at donald trump's actions over the last couple of days and what they mean. do you think he is in a different place now in terms of rhetoric and his mental state? >> id o do. i think he has been moving in this direction for some time. he is the setting to turn inward and speak directly to his base and talk a lot about dark conspiracies. core giving away from the messages that animated his campaign early on. that many republicans believe to give him a better chance to win the election focusing instead on things like the polls are rigged
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and corrupt in the media is biased. even saying as he repeated again today that the election is going to be stolen adn that voter fraud is happening. it is a pretty dark turn. his advisors and that is great like that. they think it will help. he has other advisers saying you should be talking about the economy, change, hillary clinton as part of the problem. are there divisions? why is trump not listening? and think there are, traditional strategists are deeply uncomfortable with the rhetorical direction that trump is taking. his getting many of his cues from the chief executive of the hisaign and stephen miller speechwriter as well. they are helping feed a lot of
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this to trump. that speech in florida on thursday night was really a thicket turning point but he went full on with the global conspiracy and talked about the clinton campaign in the media multinational corporations all colluding in very dark ways to undermine this election. just explain what the theory of the case is of how this helps him win. it appeals to hsis base, but for those urging this they're doing this because they think it is the way to win. their world how to explain how this is the path to victory? >> there are two pieces, it is his base. he is saying things you think will galvanize and motivate these aggrieved white people many of them working class. there are more these people out
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there prepared to foot for donald trump than our polls indicating. people that an operative's people thations -- have not participated in elections before. he wants to give voters who might the going to the polls for hillary clinton a reason to think twice or feel uncomfortable about doing so or that something is wrong with the process or they'll be too much friction or tension at the polling places. i was talking to a former mayor of philadelphia today and he said this is his big fear in philadelphia that the trump campaign talking about voter fraud and urging supporters to go to the polling places could be an intimidating force and suppress the african-american vote in the city which would help donald trump. >> i wants to ask you about info wars if you are familiar with
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alex jones you seen trump reid priddy things from that and if there is that hillary clinton was on drugs at the last debate which is straight out of the info wars world. and us what is infoworld wise donald trump talking and taking paged out of their playbook? >> it is one of the darkest corners of the media. traditionalo journalism but spread a lot of theories including 9/11 truth or theories. this was home to many ideas after 9/11 that it was somehow a tyrannical government plot. alex jones is somebody that trump has done interviews with and listens to what he has to say. it's also a place where roger stone a longtime trump advisor frequently appears and pedals ideas. many of the conspiracies you
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hear him bring up in the campaign trail like the drug use which by the way there is not evidence of that originated with info wars. it is like breitbart, probably lesser known to the mainstream public. >> do you know how that can bear no works? -- conveyor belt works? is trump weeding these things himself -- reading these things himself? stonestarted with roger advancing the theory in an interview with alex jones. all of a sudden the came out of trump's mouth over the begin at the rally. somehow or another trump is getting this information in front of him. i don't know if it is his chief executive at their some conduit here. would be fascinated to know people are pitching this to
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him or futurity it himself. particularly with the debate coming up all before that if you say something about of the camera that he or she may well just learned out on the stump. he had a teleprompter at that speech. i wonder if that was in the prompter or if that was an ad lib.. it is not something everybody wanted him to say. >> it would be really striking at that was on the prompter but he did say it. the debate coming up on wednesday. if the trump campaign thinks this is their last best hope of cutting into hillary's lead? hope to the last best talk to 100 million people directly. he prepared for it over the weekend with some advisors. he is clearly not putting in the time that hillary clinton is. she is taken three full days of the campaign trail and is in new york doing debate prep.
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trump will be doing rallies instead. >> coming of the new politics poll. what is is a but hillary clinton's lead. ♪
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>> before we dig into the under the nine point lead, hillary clinton is winning among groups that make up the core of donald trump's coalition. 2 points ahead of trump among men. what he 6% to 44%. non-educatedamong voters. she is widening the gap between voters, 2 groups that donald trump needed to do better with to close the gap with clinton. 62% said there would be panic if donald trump won. campaign ads.as 2
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here is one from hillary clinton. an inspirational spot. hillary clinton: my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place. this is the america i know and love. if we set those goals and go together, there is nothing america can't do. trump's new ad is running in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin targeting economically anxious voters with a message. >> our economy dominated the world and our middle class thrived here today jobs are gone and factories are closed because of bad trade deals pushed by the clintons sending our jobs to other countries here donald trump's plan, renegotiate nafta, stop foreign countries from cheating us, reopening factories, donald trump knows
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business and will fight for the american worker. >> talking about the logic mind the ads, the political logic and how it fits into the campaign strategy. clinton wants to be more of lifting. hasn't that athy beyond the air since the summer? that is his winning message, if he has one. taste on the data, everything can go right for donald trump. i'm not sure if you get close the gap. he is falling behind in many states. he doesn't have the resources or discipline just closer strong as he would need to. it is only running in 3 states. things, oneportant is what we said yesterday about donald trump's ethics message.
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another one that would have been great since april and may. we know that in this media environment that exists for presidential campaign, any individual ad that comes out this late, they are in the way. that is true for the clinton ad , too. they now believe she will win and she has to talk it a positive and uplifting way to make it possible for her to shift the governing. >> donald trump's troubles have caused a change. he previously said the obama team in 2012 were very confident they would win. clinton people were not that certain. they are certain now because they had a lot of data and they have seen what trump's bad week has done to his numbers. mark: basically in every battleground state except for
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ohio, maybe i was, they are more ahead then where obama was in 2012. although hillary clinton is less of a strong candidate, donald trump worse and has more trouble than mitt romney. mark: one subject that may come up in las vegas is the wikileaks e-mails that were reportedly taken from the inbox and other portions from the campaign .hairman's e-mail account republicans have been trying to use that disclosure to get stories in for a couple of weeks . there is always one person that doesn't agree. senator rubio explained why today in tampa, florida. senator rubio: i will not be talking about any revelation that come about as a result of wikileaks. our intelligence professionals have told us this is the work of a foreign intelligence agency. we can not be a country where foreign intelligence agencies
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can interfere or influence the political process. to my republican colleagues who may be disappointed in the addition i take, today it is them, tomorrow it could be us. if we want to be a country where foreign intelligence agencies can influence our elections, we will receive e-mails from managers, your wife, daughter, or son, we will embarrass you. if you don't want to be embarrassed him and do what we tell you. that is what vladimir putin does. john: you think other republicans will adopt that position? >> i hope they do. we have been saying for the last six months, where was that marco rubio a year and a half ago? that could have been the republican nominee. we have been thinking about this a lot. whatever happens, this will be an unprecedented election. we have never seen a hacked
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election before or when a foreign power has tried to influence the outcome. the politicians of both parties should be saying "we are in ugly, uncharted, dangerous territory." mark: i think any republican nominee in our lifetime would have called the democratic nominee and said we must put out a joint statement and denounce this. donald trump is taking advantage of it. as are other republicans. good for marco rubio, but no one else has thought of doing this, and as forcefully. john: i'm doing the mental exercise. if this happened in 2008 john mccain and barack obama would have then as one. 2004, they would have been as one. there are a lot of unprecedented things in this election,
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deviations from the norm. this may be the greatest deviation. this story and what it means for our democratic future. mark: donald trump denies that he hearts putin, but he hearts wiki links. john: getting to the bottom of this rumor of rigged elections, we sent our con man all over las vegas before the debate. they channel their inner danny ocean to try to pull off the heist of the century. >> you want to knock over a casino? an election? >> do you believe the election could be rigged? >> the presidential election? >> this will be a $2.5 billion residential campaign. >> do you have any idea how impossible it is to rid an election? >> have to get by the bipartisan election officials at every
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station. >> then the party lawyers. >> it has been rigged before, it can happen again. >> that was more than 80 years ago for louisiana state election. and i got caught. >> huey long did not have a computer. >> millions will be watching. >> millions have already been proved to the point of concern. >> that is just probing. >> 10,000 voting jurisdictions could be hacked. that is the opinion of the director of the fbi. he means that in a good way. >> we don't need to hack the entire system, just one vulnerability. >> one swing state. in that, just one swing county. precincts in pennsylvania use computers without a paper trail. >> some systems are running windows 2000. >> in virginia they are
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protecting with a five-digit key. >> a b c d e? >> thanks to our friends at argonne national laboratory we hackit takes $26 to this. >> there has to be another way. ofthe most-watched debate all time, and what a show it was. rings and binders. in those, every question. could this be staged? i have a man on the inside. i interviewed him in march. control the binder, control the moderator. >> had we get the binder? >> go to the debate. >> in 2012, 90 3 million did not take part in the democratic process. institute't you just repressive voter id laws?
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or cherry mentor the district to keep powerful people in power? or make election day a week day. just kidding, those are already happening. >> looks like we're going to the debate. >> we go on the stage, swap the binder, manipulate the data, rig the election, without getting caught? >> yeah. you know how to get into the debate? >> why do this? >> because the house always wins. because you have 235 million 2igible voters, parties, everything in my life can be solved at the voter box. i liked it. >> this election is not being rigged. counties. we have 67
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each conduct their own elections. there is not a 67-county conspiracy. >> i am in charge in ohio. they will not be rigged. perfect, butot be they are legitimate. they have integrity. everyone needs to respect the outcomes. john: if you watch the show ever, you already know this was directed and shot by hammond. he is amazing. >> these quick words from our sponsors.
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>> joined by our coast-to-coast strategist. she has worked for george w. bush, arnold schwarzenegger, and on the other side, steve mcmahon
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. thank you for joining us. mindy, you are a republican not for donald trump. give us your sense for the state of the race. what are donald trump's chances for winning? mindy: there are several weeks left in the election. the debate could always change things. it is not looking good. of his own volition, he said something that i shaken the race. it turned off a large group of voters that will not vote for him. i think he is in trouble. took off the things that would have to put donald trump in the position to win the race. steve: the international conspiracy would have to stop. the media would have to stop doing everything to block his path to the white house. mark: serious list. steve: he needs to give people some reason to be for him. he needs to stop attacking paul ryan. stop attacking hillary clinton.
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get back to a change argument that is powerful. if he stuck to it from the conviction -- from the convention and not gone off in rabbit holes, he might be in a different position. but he said 11 years ago shook the race to the core. there were people that have not decided that were considering him. i believe those people are turning against him. you will see the erosion continue. there will be more republican senators in jeopardy. the democratic chances in the house have improved. it is still possible, but now because of donald trump. john: we all assume there will be more hack e-mails that come out, that wikileaks will continue being a factor. comparedt with voters, to the controversies around trump, what kind of a revelation
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would it take to have real political impact on the race? steve: it would take a revelation. something beyond a normal from campaigns. what has come out so far is interesting for those on the inside. we think i know this person and that person. to a voters it is not interesting or newsworthy. in order for some ring to occur, it would have to be something that stops the news cycle in its tracks like donald trump's tapes. clinton, is hillary this what we really want to do? they were asking that, she answered that. i think her campaign has done a good job mitigating the impact of the noise. it is donald trump stepping all over himself for the past two weeks. we talked about melania
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trump doing these two interviews. to me, that suggests the donald trump campaign recognizes it has a problem as a result of the tape and the women that have come forward, continue to come forward, to accuse donald trump. is this look like a situation where you send out the spouse because you realize you are hemorrhaging support? mindy: that is what it looked l ike. they thought it was going to go away. they blamed bill clinton, trotting out his women problems. it is not going away. it is bigger than they anticipated. it shows how disjointed he is from reality. it is bringing her out. i don't know that it will help. it is not big enough to overcome what he said. we're still talking about this a week later. it is a problem for him. i don't have great advice for
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him, nor would i give it to him if i did, to change it around. mark: does it matter if hillary clinton starts talking about her agenda for the country, bringing the country together? ins that make differences her chances of winning or governing if she wins? mindy: it is helpful. what michelle obama showed us is that her surrogates can be very powerful. the anger against her hasn't changed. a lot of people are still angry with her and don't trust her. that still exists. others were able to come out with a bigger message about america, how much this election matters, bigger than party. that goes a long way to helping hillary clinton. michelle obama not it out of the park. she changed the face of the election for women. if they make moves like that, that will be helpful and smart. mindy if i could, i think
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is right about what michelle obama accomplished. i also think you are right when you talk about the turn hillary clinton can make to uniting the country and a hopeful future that is better for everyone. i'm willing to work with republicans when appropriate and fight when necessary. she will be elected president with a pretty substantial electoral college majority. i don't see any harm in reaching out her hand and say i understand it is my job to make the country work. republicans control congress and i will work with whoever is there to move the country forward. until a week ago, the people on the fence, they would like assurance. pretty aggressive question, if you are on hillary topic wouldam, what you be most worried about raising in the debate? steve: any allegations about the
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clinton foundation and pro-quote's you can't disprove a negative. anytime you talk on that you're off your message. i assume the chris wallace laughed about that. i think donald trump will press it. hillary clinton would be wise to look past it. she will be the next president, the first woman, come to office at a time that is very polarized and her approval numbers will not be bigger than they are now he can start by being grown up and looking past childish questions. john: at this moment, you would you say democrats will control that house or senate on november 9? mindy: i'm on the fence. there is a chance given what is going on. if hillary snowballs her lead into places like arizona -- who
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knows what other states we will talk about a week from now, but i am aware of the anger that exists, the frustration. i am hopeful in some way that bipartisan result of checks and balances in terms of party in washington. i won't predict. if you asked me a year ago, i would say donald trump would never be the nominee. here we are. i've given up predicting. it is too crazy. we just need to be mindful of the sentiment, how angry people are we could end up with anything. mark: not angry, but seeing the angry all around us. we will about the ambitions more when we come back.
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mark: as donald trump struggles in the battleground states, senate candidates are on the hunt for what is an endanger species in america, the ticket splitter. eground 2016. here to talk about the latest installment. the country is more polarized. people vote on party lines more than a generation ago. why do the candidates think they can change that and get ticket splitting ahead of donald trump? >> it is less common. 11% of the electorate voted for one party for president and senate.for donald trump's popularity, he has less of a ground game operation then passed candidates and is more reliant on party operations and ground games. they have different goals than
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donald trump does, especially in an election like this where he is so unpopular. i talked to a party chairman in arizona that supported him, but says we are working in the same direction but have different goals. my goal is to turn out all republicans, and at this point, not all republicans are for donald trump. john: in terms of the mechanics, how are they trying to find ticket splitters? >> i colleague and i took 2 different sets of data. the data that shows voters 'likelihood to be republican or democrat, the partisanship. also the data likelihood to be a trump supporter. republicans, voters who looked like they would be republicans, the number was higher than voters who look like they would be trump supporters. those are the vulnerable targets the clinton campaign may want
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to target. map them around the key swing states. the top for new hampshire, an independent streak, arizona, and ohio. ohio, things are so close that any movement to move the needle. focusarizona is a huge because you have a lot of republicans where hillary clinton could move up. some could be mccain voters but not trump voters. does john mccain need to give -- get a lot of voters to be reelected? the clinton campaign needs mccain voters. they're making a play there. republicans in arizona have gotten an text message. the two senators have been anti-trump. the chairman of the party has been one of the vocal trump supporters.
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in if you are a republican that state, it is not clear what you do on election day. mark: maricopa county, what did you find? steve: we found that most of the voters are from maricopa county, 60%. around phoenix. it is key to any turnout. we found out a huge percentage of the ticket splitters were there. were of them, we found, mormon. one group. a lot of them follow the same had problemshas with. women, higher education, voters, young people. mark: thank you very much for watching this new on the latest addition of "best of with all due respect." if you're watching and washington, d.c. him you can listen on the radio every day at a bloomberg 99.1 fm here check
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out bloombergpolitics.com for all of your election and whether coverage. we will see you on monday. until then, sayonara. ♪
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