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best,ing up on bloomberg the stories that shaped the year in business in the americas. >> if i do not get donald trump with change, i'm going to get hillary clinton >>. he has not been able to control himself when he is this close to the presidency. >> a presidential race like none other with a business leader in the white house. the markets wait for the fed to move, and not always patiently. >> janet, get off of this taxation of lower interest rates -- fixation of lower interes rates providing economic growth.
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>> plenty of reaction to the biggest deals. >> this checks all the boxes. is making a desperation move to boost their cloud revenue. >> where did money move this year, and why? >> etf's are sharpening volatility. >> i think what we see is a plate to quality. we are in a low return world. those are the three most important words to i am not prey but i am sitting on a lot of cash. >> a look back at 2016 straight ahead on bloomberg best. ♪ david: hello, i am david westin. welcome to a special edition of bloomberg best. we will review the most
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important business announcements and interviews for the united states and the americas in 2016. one of the most globally significant events was the u.s. presidential election. this kicks off our year in review. >> let's turn to the race for the white house and the results of super tuesday. hillary clinton jumped out to a big lead in the delegate count after winning seven states compared to four states for bernie sanders. donald trump taking seven states as well, and taking a lead. the question is, how do the strategies change now? we are headed into a winner take all zone. >> the strategies change radically and this is why. we expected donald trump to do well and he did, and marco rubio have a difficult night. they are now left with his option of, do we start to think about getting behind donald
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sitting do we have lawmakers and governors saying, this is not what the republican party represents. beneficial is it that hillary clinton can probably now sit back and start to plan ahead to november, is that to her advantage? >> it is beneficial in that she can try out a lot more strategies. mark: trump one in mississippi and michigan. does this stress the ability of him to win across very different areas across distinctly different demographics? >> he has one in all areas of the u.s. that is the thing about donald trump, he has built this broad coalition of support. what are your key takeaways from last night? >> there is only one key take away, it is obviously clear. decided to drop
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out, trump was on a glide path. >> how does donald trump go about healing these rifts in the republican party among the donors and the elite? >> with great difficulty. i think the people around him recognize that there is a lot of mending to do. david: you have been pretty outspoken about donald trump. don't we need to know what he is going to change to? has he told us what he is going to take us to? >> i heard the question and i to also have some doubts, but i know that if i do not get donald trump with change, i'm going to get hillary clinton. she has already told you, i want to shut down all coal mines and .et off fossil fuels it is the most stupid statement on energy i have ever heard. declareillary clinton
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it victor, becoming the first woman to run for the party.ntial race for a she is now the candidate that the democratic party is going to have to rally around. on the donald trump side, we saw a different donald trump last night. we saw donald trump on teleprompter, scripted donald trump, a man on the leash and making perhaps and all of branch to the republican establishment in a campaign cycle that we look to be a vicious and little cycle. do you think donald trump is good for the republican party? >> obviously i wish you would stop talking about judges in indiana. anyone could beat hillary clinton. mr. trump: i humbly and gratefully accept your nomination for the presidency of
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the united states. >> what should he do about want to take it easing? what should he do about the tax code, the federal debt? andou need to ask specifically but what he needs to do is shatter the old system. you cannot effect a bureaucracy unless you crack it because the bureaucracy will tell you that you need them and you will move slowly. ms. clinton: when there are no ceilings, the sky is the limit. the democratic party in 2016 has done a very good job of trying to get to the actual concerns of broad-based american people. office i: upon taking will issue a temporary moratorium on new agency regulations. >> trump would lower the top individual tax rate to 33%, cut corporate taxes from 35% to 15%.
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david: are we going to get numbers that say, this is how much this will cost and this is how we will pay for it? >> i am skeptical about how accurate that scoring can be because you do not know how dynamic the economy can be. i think we are way underestimating america because we have been so many years in slow growth. you will get more business investment, tax revenues. it will make it easier to do the spending reforms. dayclinton: starting on one, we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment in new good thing jobs since world war ii. is one of alinton's more robust government that can get its hands dirty and the economy. is there a redistribution all aspect to her proposal? yes, to provide more benefits to the middle and lower class but what she is also doing is investing in america and that is
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a pro growth agenda. jonathan: the first of three presidential debates, donald trump was not shy to touch on yellen's fed. trump: the fed is doing, by keeping these interest rates at this level. >> the fed by design was a nontransparent entity and was designed to be that way. the real issue to me is not as a great person le janet llen, political. she is doing the best job she can. the process is not opaque or transparent and that makes it difficult to understand. you think trump versus clinton would impact the growth? >> when you have a president -- let's say trump wins -- and you do not know what he will say next, he has not been able to control himself this close to the presidency he is not going to change. david: some of the last polls
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show hillary clinton maintaining a moderate lead over donald trump. over 2% withs every major interest group and the s&p 500 up. this is the best one-day performance since march 1. >> financial markets are making it clear -- they do not want to see a president trump. >> bloomberg news saying donald trump is poised to become the next president of the united states. >> we are actually looking at a possibility tonight that is even more extraordinary, he wins pennsylvania but he might also win wisconsin and michigan. stuns the world. wisconsin has been called for donald trump, taking him north of the 270 that is required by the electoral college, that effectively leaves him as the only candidate standing. david: we will return to the
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trump transition later in the program, and look back at an important battle between government and business investment, apple's dispute with the government over data privacy. the federal reserve -- it was hard to tell the hawks from the dubs. andhere is hawks and delves haps a few chickens. ♪
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david: welcome back to bloomberg best and our 2016 america's year in review. i am david westin. call it the big great debate. throughout the year economists and investors argued whether the economy was strong enough to survive a rate hike, and the fomc became increasingly divided on the issue.
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let's look back and a fascinating 12 months or u.s. monetary policy. >> the rate remains unchanged. the fed would like you to know they are watching things, they see what you see, and everyone can take a deep breath and stop freaking out. here is the key language, we are closely monitoring local economic -- and for the balance of risks. tom: take us inside the debate at the fed of the how, how do you determine through 2016 the when of those rate increases? >> it is not, we are going to do it four times. do not have to make that decision. we say, the results will depend on the development of the economy and it will be data develop test data dependent. -- data dependent. >> no interest rate change but
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equally important is the dot plot. the fed scales back its plan for rate hikes throughout the year and policymakers expect to raise the fed funds topic -- fed funds by one half of 1%. .> it is a more dovish fed it seems to me that stan fischer has been+++
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extent by chair yellen in terms of the forward policy. >> all of your extraordinary policy, much of still in -- much of which is still in place -- are they still effective? >> i think we are providing a very accommodative policy with our zero interest rate. i think if you want to be edging closer and closer to something of a more normal setting so you do not get stuck ithis zero rate environment the way japan did. >> the federalpen market committee drafted a statement with a somewhat hawkish tone. gone is the reference to risks posed by global, economic and toeral -- which the fed used not make a change in march. >> did you learn anything about what the fed is going to do? >> much ado about nothing. the globalwngrade condition and they did mention june that is giving heart to the long bond in the u.s. by two or three basis points, but we will learn more of the next months as long as global and equity markets are stabilized. >> what does john williams have to see in june to say, i am on board for the rate hike? >> i think we need to see a
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continuation of that progress we have not seen over the past year. see inflation move generally up towards 2%, and continued job gains. >> no change in interest rates. the fed, in a unanimous decision is holding at a quarter percentage point. what is more important of course is the outlook for rate increases, the dots. there, another shift by the fed to lower for longer. i repeat, lower for longer. admissions this an that this business cycle we are in is different than what we have seen in the past and interest rates will not return to what we think of as normal? >> that is absolutely the case and this is an enormous acknowledgment by the fed. when they started the dots, it was at 4.25 and now it is at three.
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this is what we call the new neutral. are minutes away from the fomc's july decision. let's go to michael mckee. michael: no change in policy or rates, a few changes in the economic assessment. no mention of economic activity overseas or the dollar, and no timeframe for future action. if you are feeling hawkish, there is a statement noting that near-term risks to the economic outlook have diminished. tom: it is a pretty good american and yet she is central banker to this troubled world. what would be your counsel to her for september and in the next year? thiswould say get off of fixation of lower interest rates providing a push for economic growth. >> wall street, janet yellen has a message. she says the economic data have improved and "the case for an
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increase in the federal funds rate has strengthened in recent months." we are look at where with the job market and inflation and our forecast for that, i think it is time to move. >> i do not think the committee is risking a lot by being cautious and gradual. i do not think we are behind the curve in terms of inflation or risking a big financial instability event. erik: no change in interest rates, but a strong suggestions there will be a quarter-point hike before the end of the year. you can see it in the dots, 14 of 17 fed officials expend -- expect a benchmark rate of 50 points for the first time since 2014. three policymakers dissented from the majority. you take right now
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almost a pledge from janet yellen they will raise rates if nothing untoward happens? >> i did not think anything is a pledge from janet yellen anymore . it is all confusing. there is clocks and there is dollars, and perhaps a few chickens. es and perhaps a few chickens. david: the more you buy the more the bonds go up. is this sustainable in the long term? >> no. people withapital are enjoying this environment and people who are saving every day to help them build a nest egg for retirement, or a nest egg to build enough to buy a house, or a nest egg for their children's future, they are being harmed. we are seeing a real division. >> if the outcome does not change, will you argue for a rate hike in november? >> if the data comes in
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consistent with what we have been saying, yes, i think it will remain a compelling case. >> he would vote for a rate hike? >> i would see. michael: no change in rates and no explicit signal that any rate increase is imminent. .here were two dissents >> what is the big take away? >> they did not want to make any waves six days before an election and they did not. michael: did the election come up in the discussions at all? work very hard to remove --itical decisions from our political considerations from our decision-making. surprise, the target range moves up a quarter of a percentage point to a range between 50 and 75 basis points, that unanimous.
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projected policy path next year is 1.4%, which would mean three rate hikes in 2017, not two. tom: do you buy into three rate increases? >> i would doubt the fed would raise interest rates three times a year. smallhink the fed took a step the on just being data dependent. if you walk back this notion of high pressure, this is a fed that could be tighter than we think and that is what moved the market. david: straight ahead on bloomberg best, on of the years most significant showdowns, apple versus the united states government. in the dispute over privacy, did anybody win? this is bloomberg. ♪
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david: bloomberg is taking a big step forward -- uber is taking a big step forward in self driving cars. they will allow riders from pittsburgh to hail self driving cars. >> to have embarked on this crazy research that they thought would take decades, and it is very exciting and leaps them ahead of google and tesla, even though google is seen as the leader in terms of technology. you are watching the bloomberg best 2016 america's year in review. i am david westin. apple remains the world's most companyle technology but for a few weeks in 2016 it was the most controversial after it refused to comply with a court order to give the government access to data from
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an iphone linked to a terrorist attack. apple and the fbi have been testifying on capitol hill. l'syou see it in isi efforts to task people to kill innocent people in the united states. our is a huge feature of national security work and an impediment to our counterterrorism work. >> the inability of law enforcement to access devices or a judge has determined there is evidence that may relate to a crime, is having a big impact on our ability to do our job, to protect our constituents, and i think is having an overall negative impact on public safety. emily: there is no middle ground that does not put everybody at risk, it is not just about one phone it is about every phone and the future. how do you respond? seen how we do in
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fact balance privacy and security everyday. until recently, apple was able to comply with our requests, and they have some of the strongest security out there. there has to be some discussion about how to solve this problem if there is, but you cannot conscript a private company such as apple to do something that changes products. we have civil rights that prevent that sort of thing. david: the u.s. said it may not need apple's help in unlocking the iphone in the san bernardino attack. a judge has postponed a court hearing at the 11th hour before the oral arguments. the government said, we do not need you after all. if that is true, does that substantially undermine apple's position that these phones are not as protected as we thought?
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>> i think apple can and has done things in places like china that we might not want to talk about publicly. >>the department of justice withdrawing legal action against apple after they bypassed the phone without apple's help. the fbi is like dropping its request to have apple write additional codes to circumvent security features. >> folks on the apple side will present this as a win but it is so a win to find out it is insecure that people are lining up to say, i could provide you with access. i am not sure this works in anyone's favor. iphones are not particularly secure. david: still ahead, how some of the world's most respected investors coped with market volatility. >> we have apt up our caution. david: a roundup of the biggest
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mergers. >> you are truly out from the left field. david: this is bloomberg. ♪ . generosity is its own form of power.
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you can handle being a mom for half an hour. i'm in all the way. is that understood? i don't know what she's up to, but it's not good. can't the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation.
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you got a mean case of the detox blues. don't start a war you know you're going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. ♪ >> is it time for yahoo! and ceo marissa mayer to face the music? share holders urging the company to make changes, specifically in its leadership. >> the entire board comes up for reelection this summer. this is the first shot on the way to a proxy fight. >> new leadership is a proxy for selling the core asset. >> overall on the board, management and the border are very aligned. >> would you view that as a personal failure? >> i would say that what is good for yahoo! is good for me, and vice versa.
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>> at&t and verizon are both at the point where there's only so much they can do, at least u.s. wise, from an m&a standpoint. they can't buy other wireless network, regulators won't allow them to. they cannot buy a cable company, regulators will not allow them to. they can't buy a cable company, so these digital assets for content like yahoo! is probably somewhat appealing. >> verizon is buying yahoo!'s operating business for $4.83 billion in cash. this is the merger we knew was going to happen for like seven months. it finally happened. >> identifying the assets verizon has the can make a job of yahoo! that others could not. >> at yahoo! gives us scale that takes us out of the millions into the billions. combining those are the right start for us. >> what role do you envision for yourself in this new entity? >> i have two priorities. seeing the transaction to the close, but also watching over the value of our asian assets and equity stakes that we have there. moving forward, we will
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ultimately figure it out. ♪ david: welcome back to the "bloomberg best," 2016, america's year in review. i am david westin. 2015 was a record year for mergers and acquisitions. although it's slowed in the first quarter of 2016, the pace picked up as the year went on. here's a look back at the against and most interesting deals. >> ehealth and pharma deals a came out today. abbott laboratories buying st. jude medical at a deal valued at $25 billion. in the meantime, abbvie acquired stem centrex for $520 million. -- five point $8 billion. -- $5.8 billion. >> the year started with the equity market up and down. that slowed a lot of deals. in january and february, the deals were one that we were working on last year. and then he got slow. today is a busy day and health
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care is leading the way. that is not surprise, with obamacare and the push for consolidation, you're going to see more companies. whether it is pharmaceutical companies or health care companies. >> comcast tried to buy dreamcast. about a 50% premium over dreamworks last close. >> one thing that makes it appealing is the theme park action. >> kung fu panda and shrek are going to be at universal studios. >> they also make, y know, "how to train your dragon" and their sequels have a very clear tie-in between kids movies and the theme parks that was appealing to comcast. >> a blockbuster deal would create the world's biggest supplier of farm chemicals. and genetically modified seeds. $52 billion in cash, it represents a 20% premium to
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monsanto's last close. it would be the biggest takeover ever by a german company. if monsanto actually rejects your offer, are you ready, or do you have the capacity to increase the offer? >> we're totally convinced about the attractiveness of our offer. >> monsanto said today they are open to a deal with bayer, but the current offer is inadequate. a statement out today said, the current proposals immediately undervalues our company and does not adequately address or provide reinsurance for potential financing and regulatory execution risks related to this acquisition. >> do we intimate they would sell at a price? bayer prepared to pay that price? deal, microsoft buying linkedin, valued at $26.2 billion, $196 a share, a 50%
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premium to linkedin's friday closing price. >> this is truly out of left field and i wouldn't have expected that. >> what will the process be like and how you make sure it doesn't turn out like nokia or to some extent, even skype? >> when i think about acquisitions, i think is this something that's going to be expanding the market opportunities? is this writing the technology wave of the view chair? anything at the core of microsoft is something we can differentiate. this checks all those boxes. david: oracle will by netsuite at a deal valued at $900 billion. least surprising acquisition in the history. understand, oracle really wanted to move into cloud. >> founded by larry ellison. >> netsuite is like the original cloud company. >> netsuite is a truly cloud business, almost a side project for larry ellison run by zach nelson.
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it is going to be curious to see their other biddings. >> he basically said i want that. larry owns half of the netsuite. >> walmart agreed to for $3 billion in cash, giving the world's largest retailer stronger online presence. >> it's a desperate move by walmart. walmart, one year and a half ago, there market cap was double that of amazon. now they have flipped. they are at $230 billion roughly. >> bayer and monsanto, is third time the charm? the number they have to hit to acquire monsanto is $135 a share. they are talking about a breakup fee and a potential price. >> a step closer, how much closer? has offered, bayer $1.5 billion in a termination fee. we are going to want more
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because a lot of revelatory issues that are going to come up, and price always matters. >> bayer increased their offer. a second time. a -- wellit is well above their current offer, they seem to want even more. it's a five dollar pickup from the original bid. share prices dropped, it's more attractive. what's to stop monsanto from saying we accept? >> they have been clear from early on that they are not going to negotiate anything less than a number starting with the three. they want $130 minimum to try to get to the table and get a proper deal done. >> bayer announces a deal to take over monsanto, the largest merger this year and also the largest foreign takeover by a german company. >> you feel confident you are able to do whatever is needed? >> we are blessed because this combination is one that is high complementary and has
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for the size of this transaction, a very, very low overhead. >> to the big deal everyone is talking about. at&t buys time warner for $85.4 billion u.s. >> at&t really is betting on content, we are going for some and it's very aggressive that has a decent chance of regular -- regulator push back. but this is a game-changing transaction. ge combining oil and gas is this with baker hughes how many $32 billion deal. >> ge gets most of the senior positions, the chairmanship and the ceo position and baker hughes gets the vice chairmanship. it should be noted that baker hughes shareholders get a great cash payout as well. one of special dividends. $7.5 billion. if you look to the shares this morning falling in premarket trading, at the moment, it looks
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like the baker hughes shareholders are much happier than ge shareholders. >> what is going on? you would think the election would make people be concerned, but it doesn't seem like that had any impact at all. >> the election would have mattered if equity prices would have been more volatile. one of this things about the last quarter is it's incredibly stable equity prices, for very large companies. a lot of these big deals typically involve some equity. but the fundamental factors -- you know, they are very strong. low growth, which is bad for most things but good for m&a, that's how you get growth and very accommodating capital markets. david: coming up on "bloomberg best," america's year in review, on the whole, 2016 was not the best of times for hedge funds. but then again, it's a matter of perspective. >> is there too much money? >> $3 trillion isn't what $3 trillion was 10 years ago. or 20 years ago. david: this is bloomberg.
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♪ david: you are watching the "bloomberg best: 2016, america's year in review." i'm david westin. time to revisit some of 2016's most compelling conversation with investors, financial leaders, and economist. market volatility was a theme throughout the year, especially in january as a global selloff raised fears of a recession. it was the topic of much discussion of the world economic forum in davos. ♪ >> once again we are in the midst of a selloff. iels a little like 2009. i hope not. what about you? >> will countries that are growing keep growing and sustain that growth versus commodities downdraft -- and the expectation is china won't grow as fast. >> you make it sound sensible. >> it is always sensible. in retrospect. but i think at the end of the
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day, companies like ours just have to keep driving the consumers america's continue, the question is how it plays out. >> i would say that we are in an environment in which is very important to have a well diversified -- that will include assets like gold in your portfolio. try to achieve balance in various ways. that is a whole subject about how to do it. i think gold at 5% of your portfolio, 5% or 10% of your portfolio -- under the circumstances, would be a prudent thing to do. prudence is the important thing to do. the reason i'm referring to that is win situation where debt is money. we have a fiat monetary system. we are having problems as central banks operate. think of it as another form of cash. when cash has 0% interest rates
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are less, think of it as one of those possibilities in terms of how you create diversification? >> the first quarter for the hedge fund business has really been a very unfavorable period, in large part because when you hedge equity positions, for example, and markets turn and they go up, sometimes everything goes up and you are short. and it goes up. and then what compounded that were too few really interesting opportunities that many people were in. so when they tried to recover their positions, stocks went up 100%. 200%, 300%, just for technical reasons. but stepping back from it, the rates of return in the hedge fund business and the fee structure has discouraged some investors. so, it is highly probable that
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the asset class will shrink a bit. >> what is a bit? >> we will find out. >> the hedge fund industry has grown to a gigantic industry, more than $3 trillion. it's gone from a modest sized to this gigantic industry. probably about the same size as the private equity industry. maybe even slightly bigger. people are investing, and people think it hedge funds, you can get better rates of return. some of these hedge funds have had problems. typically the macro. but i do think that people will realize you have very smart people, highly motivated come investing their own money aside investors and is likely they're going to do it well over a longer time. >> is $3 trillion to much money? is there simply just too much money and not enough opportunity? remember, a lot of the money is being invested outside the united states, not just in the united states. $3 trillion is not what $3 trillion was 10 years ago.
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or 20 years ago. it isn't th big ith context. >> the market can no longer look to banks to make markets. so you actually have to have a much of a buyer and seller. what do institutions do? institutions have turned to etf's. it's the easy way to add beta and -- or take risk off. paradoxically, etf's are 3% of the market. we don't have any objective evidence of how much trading activity they provide in the market. but say it's 10%. what we're hearing. an etf flows on a daily basis do move the market notably one direction or another.
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you have the advent of institutional investors who are trying to deal with market volatility using etf's and etf's are actually sharpening volatility somewhat. i think that's a lot of detail. but what translate to is you need more and more portfolio managers have to set their course and stay on their course. >> what's happening in the bond market versus the domestic u.s. economy? >> what you say is certainly right. i think what we see is a flight to quality. after the brexit shock, people are going for sovereign debt of the strongest countries. the feeling of risk aversion is very high and they say take me to the safest asset, those happen to be the sovereign debt of japan and germany, the united states. even with interesting is the u.k. yields going down and the pound dropped 10%. you didn't do well in u.k. bonds if you were a non-sterling investor.
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the demand for high-quality liquidity has been the story of the last two or three years. >> it's very challenging today, in a low return part. and how do you do your business in a low return world? you can settle for low return with characteristic safety, or you can pursue a high return. how you get a high return in the low return world? you have to take significant risks. >> are you comfortable taking that risk? >> i'm a professional. don't try this at home. i have been doing this for 38 years. we know how to do it and what we've done in the last five years, we've operated under a mantra, move forward, but with caution.
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why say with caution for oaktree, oaktree is a cautious investor. that means more caution than usual. we amped up our caution, amped up our selectivity and skepticism, all the things i said earlier were in short supply, we have increased. >> i think the negative rates completely stop saving, because you are not only rewarded for saving -- not rewarding for saving, but penalized for saving. i don't think that's good. i also think that it has caused a huge bubble in the bond market because people have nowhere else
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to put their money unless they buy a beautiful piece of art like our ceiling, or some pictures or something of that nature. tom: where would you put your money now? if negative rates have distorted the markets in central banks have distorted the markets, how would you be exposed today into the end of the year? >> i think the only game in town are equities. and we have to play in that theater. >> you are cautious, almost as cautious as you have been at any point in your career. why? >> i am not uber-bearish. so i am not predicting calamity. but my portfolio, i'm sitting a lot of cash right now. almost 60% cash. there are a few reasons for it. number one, just going about my day-to-day business of trying to find good stocks to buy and a handful of stocks to short. and ainding very few long lot of shorts. that bottoms up tells me something i think about the markets. from the top down, i see all the major indices at or near all-time highs, complacency at
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very low levels. a very uncertain world with a wide range of outcomes. i predict not calamity, but am quite certain is going to be a lot more volatility in the world. as a stock picker i welcome that. that's how i make money. ♪
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♪ >> argentina's big win in court today. the country can now tap the international credit markets for the first time since 2001 and payback holdout creditors from its default. >> lifting the injunction allow them to issue enough debt to pay off the vast majority of the judgments against them. they can tap the market and pay off the guys with the sharpest teeth and start reintegrating with the international capital market. >> today could be the last day in office for president dilma rousseff. the senate is scheduled to hold
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a vote that may force rounded -- her out and into impeachment trials that she looks unlikely to win. >> brazilian local debt is up 30% this year, that's the best return anywhere in the world. investors are betting, you know, we have had five months of uncertainty and five months of not knowing where brazil is going. let's get this behind us and let's move on. we can take it from there. >> the vice president is now active president, inheriting the worst economy brazil has seen in decades. ♪ david: welcome back to the "bloomberg best," 2016, america's year in review. i'm david westin. donald trump profits -- donald trump's victory in the u.s. presidential election was largely unexpected and the president-elect transition has been under close scrutiny as the business community looks ahead to the new and administration. >> it's going to be a very business-friendly administration. i want to say it's going to be a
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christmas tree, but business is going to be down. in the short run, all of this is probably good for business. in the longer run, $5.8 trillion in tax cut is probably not so great for business because of inflation, just rates, and so -- interest rates, and so on. >> you are just like everyone else in your industry, and for that matter, all of finance. all of industry is trying to figure out what a trump presidency means to your business. >> it is a sea change. republican senate, republican house, and a president who wants to do things like infrastructure spending to get it done. we are moving to a faster growing economy. the pace will determine interest rates. david: breaking news now, the president-elect's cabinet is coming together. what does that appointment tell us about the treasury? >> it tells us that goldman has a lock on the treasury. [chuckle] >> he is a loyalist and he will be someone who is definitely following the lead from the white house, maybe not so much for him of his own, but
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definitely following some. david: president-elect trump is close to naming secretary of state and the front runner comes from the world of oil. yesterday he tweeted, whether i choose them or not, rex tillerson is a world-class player and dealmaker. stay tuned. >> rex tillerson is a very foundation of the trump administers and makes them shake and quake. >> he is a very impressive guy but when we saw michael jordan go from basketball to baseball. you can be great in one area and not necessarily great in another, somewhat related area. so we will have to see. david: trump's cabinet is looking more like a board room than a cabinet. have you seen anything like this injection of senior business leadership into washington? what do you make of it? what would likely lead to? >> there are very successful business people. being successful in business does not mean you will be successful in government. david: former texas governor
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rick perry, fmer nominee for president-- considered from the to the oil industry, will be nominated as energy secretary. >> big oil is dominating this cabinet. whether it is deliberate strategy or just coincidence, it's anybody's guess. that is pretty amazing how many people from the energy sector are going to run this government. >> if you are going to be president, you should have the best people sitting around the table. i think it is a mistake for the american people to constantly be told if you work for an oil company or if you work for a bank, that makes you bad. you want the best team. i think it's a good thing, because a lot of these people are very qualified peowho want to help the country. they are not going to try and help their former company. these are people with deep knowledge that hopefully will do a great job. ♪ ♪ david: that wraps up the special edition of "bloomberg best," the 2016 "america's year in review." find more stories, interviews, and analysis from 2016 at, along with all the latest business news, 24 hours a day.
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thank you for watching. i'm david westin. this is bloomberg. ♪
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