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emily: i am emily chang, this is "bloomberg technology." fake news take center stage in france, with the presidential election days away. how big tech is mobilizing to prevent viral misinformation from influencing the vote. plus, after an earnings bonanza with apple and facebook leading the charge, we break down the latest headlines of this week in tech. free original content courtesy of youtube. the video giant's big bet on celebrity-driven shows. the nasdaq and s&p 500 closed at new, all-time highs. u.s. stocks rose for the third straight week. abigail doolittle joins us now from new york. what happened in this session in tech stocks in the week in general? >> today we started off, relatively lackluster session, and on the close, both the nasdaq and s&p 500 finishing at record highs.
a lot of this has to do with tech, the best-performing sector of the week, relative to the best stocks for the nasdaq. it helped of the nasdaq rise of third week in a row. some of the best weeks since november of last year. they posted a solid march quarter, beating estimates by 1.5%. there drug numbers were good enough. that stock went up quite nicely on those results. another winner, a software company. they are saying some of the bidders, could include bain and carlyle. they have a $23 billion market cap. they may not choose to sell themselves that all three of but it shot up higher on the week around as big investors.
the possibility they may by cit rix. and analyst said it has to do with a report out of europe suggesting demand for travel is very strong. interesting, on the day the stocks were down as hotels say they will fight the monopoly these two online travel agencies have formed. it'll be interesting to see how that lays out. emily: we saw moves on the back of apple earnings, where did we end up? abigail: another record for apple. they put up a march quarter that was disappointing. they beat on earnings, missed on revenues. they are getting a pass on iphone 8 super cycle. we are waiting to see. that is where the pressure is for the back half of the year. if we hop into the bloomberg and take a look, this is a longer-term chart. back in 2012 and 2013, the stock
plunged in a big way. that was around disappointment for the iphone 5. then it shot up in a huge way. the disappointment was on the iphone 6s. the iphone 7 has been stronger. everyone is looking forward to the iphone 8. if you look at the move up between the blue lines, we could see choppiness. the technicals here are mainly pretty solid. let's rounded out with netflix. netflix did trade higher on the week, having its best week, up a second week in a row. gaining on that baidu deal, their entry into china. netflix could potentially be bought by apple with that huge apple cash pile of more than $250 billion. microsoft and intel were among the bed -- best stocks for the nasdaq.
microsoft released a $999 laptop with an intel chip inside. tech was the best sector on the week come a really helping the nasdaq. emily: abigail doolittle in new york, thank you so much for that update. as she mentioned, a lot of earnings report cards over the past couple weeks from the biggest tech companies, apple alphabet, microsoft amazon. the majority have beat on revenue and earnings. what is the mean for the health of tech stocks, can they keep it up? joining me, tom, great to have you here. can tech stocks keep up with this optimism? tom: the optimism is real, the big changes happening in the ecosystem are these moves to the cloud.
anytime you see 50% growth year over year in the u.s., large enterprises starting to move, that drives operating income and growth. emily: so it is worth it? tom: in the private markets we see a version, when you had me on the show 18 months ago, the private market valuation, the same company in the private markets was twice what it was in the public. that is no longer the case. emily: you talked about a spike in venture debt. why is that a trend? tomasz: one way is to raise equity dollars. they invest dollars to buy shares and that dilutes the company. we by 25% of the company. but there is a recent trend where companies borrow. it is happening more and more and growing faster than equity investment. that is because this kind of financing is non-diluting for founders. as companies stay private longer
and longer, like uber, 10 years before they go public. instead of raising that pre-ipo round, they raise about $2 billion a day. emily: when you talk about private companies reverting to the mean, are and airbnb an exception? tomasz: they are. emily: are they the only exception? tomasz: no. what i mean by reverting to the mean, exceptional companies will command exceptional prices. two were year -- two or three years ago many were demanding exceptional prices. the middle class of companies are not growing as fast, are not as iconic. the price of those companies is lowering. emily: is it a reckoning? tomasz: no, a slow correction, not as dramatic as 2000. emily: jobs report added.
you have the chairman of alphabet say he does not think robots will take all our jobs. he said, i will not take the position because no one knows the answer. well we have a tremendous dislocation and jobs, i am not denying that in aggregate, there will be more jobs. you agree with him? tomasz: when the first dishwashers came out, it was the first robot in the house. people were terrified dishwashers and businesses would be out of a job. but we still have half a million people with that job. i was on a panel with the chairman and tesla. there are as many people employed per car produced in the tesla factory as in any other factory in america. what ends up happening with machine running automation, it is not that we have fewer jobs read but that humans do changes.
we focus on more interesting, cerebral work, as opposed to more manual. emily: let's talk about self driving cars, uber and alphabet are in the middle of a lawsuit over whether or not technology, i.t. was stolen. if self driving cars are a success, what is the mean for these people who have been building cars in the first place? and driving them? tomasz: there are five stages of automation. we will not get to that in 15 years. emily: we will still have to have steering wheels. tomasz: or companies that offer to drive trucks with remote controls, like we drive drones in the military today. it will be another 15 to 25 years.
the idea is that during that time, people will be able to learn new skills and still be employed. it is not a discontinuity where tomorrow, 19 million cars sold in the u.s. each year will suddenly become a fully automated and everyone will be without a job. it is a much more gradual change. emily: what are the new skills? tomasz: imagine driving eight trucks at the same time instead of one. the gig economy is fragmenting labor. one thing we are pursuing inside our firm is a new forms of education. more vocational education. what those skills are going to be is still to be determined. we are hopeful that as we invest and build the next generation of educational institutions, people will be ready. emily: if automation is a trend, private companies are reverting to the mean, where you see the most potential? what you putting your bets on? tomasz: machine learning and
artificial intelligence. we have been working on speak recognition. we believe speech recognition is the new form of human-computer interaction. you can speak three times faster than you can type. it is more convenient to speak to a computer. another big area of focus is machine translation, wondering which to another. computers can do that better than humans. we are continuing to look for investments in that kind of way. emily: you are here a year ago. what it will be -- what will we be talking about a year from now? tomasz: very big ipo's. we have seen nine companies go public through may. at a two-time space since last year. emily: uber and airbnb, most things point to those being two years out. tomasz: at some point, they will go out. you still have interest.
if the recent markets have shown that there is a lot of appetite for high-growth technology companies, the average gain is 35%. the doors are open, so lots of companies will be going out at the same time. emily: thank you so much for joining us, great to have you. coming up, is warren buffett saying bye-bye to big blue? why the investor is cutting his stake in ibm. bloomberg tech's live streaming on twitter weekdays 5:00 p.m. in new york. this is bloomberg. ♪
emily: ahead of its annual shareholder meeting, berkshire hathaway's ceo announced he would be -- ceo warren buffett announced he would be tricking his influence. one point trading at its lowest level since november. for more i bring in cory johnson in new york. what is your read on this? cory: the fundamentals of ibm are not the kind he likes. he is not afraid to step into a business to turn around and make progress. if you look at ibm's progress -- his first purchase was of a lower-level. he bought a lot of stock when it was at its all-time highs in 2012 and 2013. it has been a money losing position for warren buffett, a difficult one. the corporate results reflect a
business that is contracting, not growing, which is what buffett wants. emily: how much has he lost? cory: we do not know what he has paid for the stake itself. fundamentally, it is a reflection of ibm's business. if you look at the sales figures, they have been drinking every year. they wanted to grow the bottom line. but if you look at the even audit growth, there is not been any. it has been falling 5%, 7%, 11%. it is not only getting worse, but worse faster. that is a great concern and not the type of business he wants to be involved in. emily: buffett said in the past he does not understand technology. he has a stake in apple but does
not own an iphone. in fact, he has a flip phone and is quite happy with it. does this prove maybe he should not be investing in a sector he does not understand? cory: really what he does not understand is the valuation of tech stocks. stocks that are valued on what they have yet to do as opposed to what they have been doing. the intrinsic value and the free cash flow generation from the business is always at the cone. i have been covering technology so long, it is hard to believe companies that have not done anything yet. it is hard to do it venture capitalists do. he is trying to discount future cash flows. there was a clue however that it was not his kind of company. when the annual letter comes out from berkshire hathaway, i have gone to to a quiet room on a
saturday morning to go through the letter. i got to a section where he talks about the kind of businesses he likes and is not. i think we have the exact text of the letter available. he talks about how he and charlie look at the stock market. charlie and i cringe when we hear analysts talk about managers that make the numbers. business is too unpredictable for the numbers to always be met. ibm always makes its adjusted number. they talk about that in press releases to journalists. but the stock tends to suffer because they focus on making adjusted numbers, not making the business any better. that was the clue that warren
buffett had given up on ibm. emily: cory, our bloomberg editor at large in new york, thank you. coming up, youtube betting big on original content to round up ad dollars. we bring you the latest from los angeles. this weekend we bring you our best interviews from the week. tune in this saturday for the best of bloomberg tech. this is bloomberg. ♪
emily: a story we are watching, city analysts wrote a note on apple acquisitions. the targets, netflix, disney, hulu, tesla. they said netflix would be apple's best bet. the iphone maker could use 1/3 to buy netflix, and 2/3 for buybacks. youtube is planning to expand original content. they are getting even bigger. thursday the announced a half
dozen original series available for free on the world's most popular video website. the alphabet-owned company hopes to attract viewers and advertisers. here with more on the expansion plans. what do you make on the reality is succeeds? >> my first take was, oh no, more tv. my friend said the handmade scale is great. but now i have to subscribe to hulu, too. but they invented video on the internet. we're seeing a huge push by them in the last year or so. they have 35 channels coming out, a typical cable-like bundle they are offering. you have youtube red with original programming for $10 a month. some you will be able to watch for free. it is a big push to captures some of those original programs.
in the big picture, google crushed print advertising and this is their chance to bring analytics to the tv world and get that revenue. emily: i interviewed the youtube ceo toward the end of last year and asked her about her vision for the future. she said she imagines the youtube will be a platform for all of these different media companies. take a listen. >> if you fast forward 10 years, you will see a new generation of media companies that have strong followings, are able to create amazing content. it will be global, they will interact with their fans in all sorts of amazing ways. i am looking forward to being part of that.
emily: we know anything about the numbers? can youtube or is youtube competing with netflix, hulu, amazon? can they give them a run for their money? chris: no doubt about it. these online video companies are promoting their wares. a lot of amazing technology, targeted advertising, tracking every single viewer. we see a dramatic turnaround even for youtube. just a month or so ago, big advertisers were canceling. there was controversy, they did not want their ads placed next to beheading videos. now johnson & johnson, is now an advertiser for a big youtube show. they are embracing online advertising. with all this spending, you will see viewers. emily: how is it different from what you to have done in the past? chris: they had a push five years ago to produce $100 million to produce original content.
this time there is an effort to create content with people that have both online followings and traditional followings. ellen degeneres, for example. a lot of this is timing. this is the tipping point this year for online tv. emily: comedian kevin hart, a lead -- ellen degeneres, others will be producing these scripted shows. you will be charged and watching all the new original content out there. thank you so much. coming up, we bring you the top tech headlines of the week, including the possible criminal probe into uber. if you like bloomberg news check us out on the radio and sirius xm. this is bloomberg. ♪ the show's about to start! how do i look?
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alisa: i'm alisa parenti in washington and you are watching "bloomberg technology." let's start with the check of your first word news. french presidential candidate marine le pen was pelted with objects at a local cathedral. protesters are mostly supportive of emmanuel macron. we will bring special coverage of the french presidential election runoff result on sunday. activist with the environmentalist group greenpeace unveiled a banner from the eiffel tower contain the french national motto. it was removed after 45 minutes. a conservative cleric running for president of iran, said the nuclear deal with the u.s. must be respected.
they said despite issues that exist, the deal should be considered legitimate. he is hoping to unseat the current president in the may 19 vote. in florence, italy, european commission president opened his state of the e.u. address today was a direct swipe at britain. >> i made a decision between english and french. [applause] slowly but surely, english is losing importance. [laughter] >> he spoke ahead of formal talks for britain's exist on the block from the e.u. will negotiate with the u.k. in full transparency. he meets with president trump in brussels may 26. the e.u.'s chief negotiator responded today to claim that
the block is responsible for uncertainty leading up to the brexit. >> the only calls of uncertainty is brexit. the only way to remove uncertainty and to protect rights properly is through article 50 agreements. >> he also said before trade negotiations begin, he wants to ensure the rights of people living and working in the u.k. anti-e.u. german chancellor angela merkel is standing tough against president trump's demand that germany pay more for nato's defense. nato countries are decided to contribute 2% of their gross national product on defense. germany includes foreign aid in that total, but mr. trump does not. merkel says she stands by her country's spinning approach. a deal to set up four state zones in war-torn syria goes into effect today. is still between russia, turkey, and iran would ban military action in those areas.
global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2600 journalists. ron washington, i'm alisa parenti, and this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: this is "bloomberg technology." i'm emily chang. earnings season is just about to wrap up and almost all of the tech giants have reported, including apple and facebook. next week, we will get scott numbers -- stock numbers. to break it down, we have our bloomberg tech editor and are bloomberg tech reporter. let's start on apple. shares ended up 4%. there is concern about the iphone, but there is optimism about services. what is the big takeaway? >> the actual number of iphone sales went down compared to the year before, but the iphone revenue went up, which means
they sold that a lot of people bought the high end iphones. that bodes very well for the new iphone coming up later this year. from that point of view, it is good. could you add in the services business, which means if you don't buy an iphone, you may subscribe to apple music, download apps. emily: he also played up wearables. they have a watch, air pads, beats. >> it is not going to go away, they are still working on it the air pods especially, you could have a lot of new technology based off voice interactions. emily: let's talk about
facebook. the biggest concern is that they are running out of space in the core apps. there are all these issues about violent content and what they are going to do to police that. >> they said they are going to reduce the ad load, but at this point, it was not news. their deadly trying to want the markets about that incident are going to calm down. on the other hand, i think people are really excited about instagram. it is a place for people really want to advertise. that is going to absorb some of this concern. and then like you said, video -- it feels like they are trying to figure it out. emily: there adding 3000 people to police it. >> there was just a report saying they were going to do premium stuff, so they are committing to video, even though as a user, they have definitely not figured it out. emily: what do you think is the can do to succeed and original
content? >> they pulled back from betting on sports content, which is the best example. everyone is getting crazy for sports and paying so much. they are not going to do that. they are being a little tentative, but the opportunities await too big. if you can grab a third of what youtube does, it would be a huge business. emily: snap is coming. what can we expect? >> his first quarter, we really get to see them as a public company, so it is super important. are they a high-growth company are not? there will be this big debate around sort of user growth versus how well they monetize their existing users. snap would much prefer to monetize the users we have. they are super engaged, much more on facebook and instagram. we will continue to come out with new products.
pay attention to that. don't pay attention to the fact we are not facebook or some huge, international global business growing at the same degree. don't treat us like twitter. emily: shares of 30% of the ipo. let's talk about uber. every day, another uber story. now they are facing a criminal probe. what is the latest? >> we found up to the city of portland, there was this extensive document that included this mention that the u.s. justice department was investigating uber. people are seizing on this idea that -- so the justice department is using -- is looking into what uber looked into to obscure itself to make it hard for people to find uber drivers. it is called greyball because they are operate in a gray area legally. >> i think in general, the patent --it is an amazing
company and it has won in its market, and now, they are missing it all up. they had a great self driving car program, then they hired this guy who is obviously a little crazy. then they messed it up and a lot of people have left. their tripping over themselves right now. emily: i have heard anecdotally that lyft is getting moment him. some people are saying that they are deleting uber and going with lifting. most of the drivers seem to prefer lyft. what we take away with that? >> i saw a bunch of lyft people the other day and they were just glowing like they all had weddings or something. they are also happy. [laughter] everyone is very happy over there. everything just keeps coming up on the uber front and it is a lot of old stuff.
their old skeletons getting doug out of the closets -- getting dug out of the closets. they have to figure out how to they overcome all of this history. part of the hope is the report, a new coo, those things happen in may say, stop it is us for making a lot of mistakes. we are going to start to see that messaging of the new uber over the next couple of months. emily: all right. thank you both. said that apple shares were up 4%. that was snap. apple shares are up 1.6%. neutrality rules are fated to change according to the fcc chairman. he recently gave more on his take on the state of neutrality while speaking at the right-leaning american enterprise institute friday saying, you do not need a weatherman to know that the wind
is blowing towards modification or elimination. the fcc will vote on may 18 to formally begin the process of loosening regulations that enforced and that neutrality rules for internet service providers. disney could be headed to the top of the summer box office. the studio hope to capitalize on the power of proven franchises, pulling out sequences -- sequels. guardians could top $1 billion in global ticket sales. the summer movie season is a bellwether for the year, generating almost 40% of annual domestic box office. the world turns to francis bacon of the country built for its next president, and the polarized race is getting heated. we will discuss how big the problem is and what tech giants are doing about it. ♪
emily: ahead of the french presidential election this sunday, there is widespread anxiety that fake news could sway the vote. have bigger problem is this for france? what is being done to combat it ahead of the election? we are joined from new york by the ceo of news whip. with me in san francisco is sarah frier. paul, i want to start with you. we have seen a report that the links shared on social networks and france around the election are fake news. is that accurate? paul: that is reasonably accurate. there is a fake news problem without any doubt, but what we like to do is try to quantify how about the problem is.
when we are talking about fake news, we are talking about the stories that are out now and very partisan reporting. so, a lot of websites specialize in doing that. when we looked at data from the last two months leading up to the french presidential election, we see they can news is a problem, but not a huge problem. the most top 200 shared stories -- 20 of those are the partisan-type sites. 72 out of the top 200 stories last year were fake. almost 40% of the stories were fake in that instance third but only 20% and the -- in that instance, but only 20% in the french instance. emily: but you don't want any of the news stories you read to be fake. what is facebook doing about this? what is twitter and google doing
about this? they have one big lesson under their belt. sara: the first thing they did since november was it meant that they had a problem, right? they saw it happening and there was his public uproar. then they decided, we have to tackle this problem, but we don't know exactly how. there is a mix of solutions they are trying to figure out. at the same time, these platforms don't want to be arbiters of what is true or false. so, facebook is teaming up with journalists, so was google, to try to align what factfinders have to say about the post on their networks to make it clearer for people that maybe they won't get is easily misguided. emily: google backed a collaborative effort called crosscheck around the french election, and they are using some of your technology at new whip.
how is that working? paul: crosschecked is about the truth getting it boots on faster. it is a collaborative project started by the first that news coalition. they have 37 news rooms across france spotting very early on, when a new trend is emerging on social media, like a new video, a new piece of content, or a new image -- where our technology comes in is the are really good at spotting content as it starts to trend. so the journalists can spot coming very early on. at the instance of the first big fake story about the french candidate macron say you think finance by saudi arabia, that was spotted by journalist within an hour. they were able to stick a pin into a very quickly. this awareness upfront to fake news is why we are seeing less of it in the french election than we saw it back in the u.s.
election last year. emily: aside from the quantity of it, what other trends are you seeing emerging in the fake news that is specifically focused around the french election? paul: there has been at least two fabricated stories, but there has not been as much as the u.s. part of it is that the pirates have not come to town. the run-up to the u.s. election, you had macedonian teenagers, content farms in california alternate out stories that they reckoned one side of the other wanted to read. emily: there was a study by facebook release last week saying that pointed to information operation, sort of, those people that they fake accounts under real people's names to try to spread information and comments and message groups around the web, and they actually got rid of 30,000 accounts in france,
spreading information. it is less dramatic, but there is a lot of coordinated efforts to misinform. emily: everything to the question -- can fake news -- that brings me to the question --can fake news really be stopped or prevented? paul: it is hard. people have predispositions for liking certain kinds of stories, and if you have certain opinions of politicians. people are opting into fake news a little bit as well. it is hard for the platforms because they are developed algorithms serving you the stuff you want. if you want fake stuff, it is hard for them to strengthen and protect that. one thing that is important that journalists and people in media are able to step outside of their own culture bubbles and see what stories are trending in the worlds if they are not normally a part of, or looking at.
2016, we saw on our platforms, that trump 2 was gettingx -- was getting 2x the amount of attention that hillary was getting. emily: sarah, you and i talked to -- about fake news. they take a very, very seriously. what is your read on whether facebook and get this under control? sarah: the company needs to take a few is a because it is not an issue for their revenue compared but it is an issue -- their revenue, but it is an issue. we for their users feeling like they trust the platform to inform them. we get more and more of our news passively. i think this is going to be a situation like spam, like hacking -- you can only move as
fast as you can to fix a problem, but somebody will find a way -- you're always one step ahead. emily: sarah frier and paul quigley -- we will be watching the french election intensely this weekend. bloomberg tv and radio will bring special coverage of the french residential runoff on sunday. next, we will look at the funding of biotech research as the industry faces an uncertain future to the policies of president trump. this is bloomberg. ♪
emily: welcome back to "bloomberg technology." i'm emily chang next week, the trump administration these of biotech leaders talking about future funding for research in the industry faces a lot of uncertainty under the new president. bloomberg television will be in the hub of biotech in boston for a special week of programming shining a light on tech and the biotech ecosystem. bloomberg's caroline hyde will be presenting special coverage
and joins us. thank you, caroline for filling in for me while i was gone. you did an amazing job. what is on tap next week? caroline." now i am on the east coast. what an inside scoop it i got to see what the highest academic places such as harvard, and i am getting the towards -- the tour of all tours. i spoke to the woman at the helm. we will see the administration talking to biotech leaders, and the concern of the pulling back in funding coming from the administration scared have a listen of what she told me earlier. >> i worked with congress this spring trying to make a case of
how research operates, and how universities are dependent on a long-standing partnership with the federal government that are on federal support. we have been concerned about immigration issues and the free flow of talent. the greatest advantage as a country this year has been the attraction that we can pole -- pull people into the u.s. and we benefit greatly by that. caroline: it is interesting that academia is singing from the very same hymm sheet as -- silicon valley leaders are the moment as well. seems as though the president of harvard is worried about the attraction of u.s. universities amid the administration. more worried that they will not have the same pool of talent that is currently helping build new companies. many of whom said the companies are actually led by foreign students. we have heard that same
sentiment at code -- that same sentiment echoed. >> we have such a vibrant innovation community in so many dimensions here and it is exciting to see it growing an exciting to see the output, and i think that having mark zuckerberg comeback will be a great moment for everyone to celebrate him, and remind ourselves of the many ways in which we have been innovators will continue to be innovators. caroline: interesting, talking very highly of the rolling within the ecosystem. more than 20 universities and schools based in boston and in massachusetts in general, helping to build a thriving tech hub. mark zuckerberg will come back to speak at harvard may 23. emily: caroline, you are so kind to say my name in the same sentence as mark zuckerberg and bill gates. the city has been focused on
building innovative hubs. what have you seen? caroline: it blows my mind. it is the lifeblood of boston, too. one third of all of the growth state product, all the money that massachusetts makes comes from tech, notably, about half of the payrolls across massachusetts are in tech and biotech. clearly, amazing statistics. emily: caroline hyde in boston with a big week a special coverage next week. think so much, caroline. we will be seeing you all week long. have a great weekend. do not forget to catch special coverage of boston 5:00 p.m. eastern.
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