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have departed in terms of the fire -- and in terms of the firing of james comey, he was asked an opinion by the president and he gave it and he does not believe that country in his r -- contravened his recusal . for more on the testimony, let's go to capitol hill with kevin cirilli, and we are also joined by sahil kapur, bloombergs national political reporter. kevin, i will go to first and outline what i said there, a pretty stringent denial that there was no interaction or challenge with russia and if there had been, he would have left the campaign. kevin: absolutely, julia. he was stringent and adamant that he had no type of collusion communication with russian officials. he was pressed on this, and to be quite frank, you will hear
strong criticism coming from democrats who said that he did essentially invoke executive privilege, because he dodged repeated questions about his own communications with president trump. democrats are already taking to twitter to criticize that. i would anticipate that that line of attack is going to continue. republicans are going to say this was pretty much a boring hearing, i'm nothing -- a nothingburger, in that the critics did not get the kind of smoking gun that they tried to get from these hearings. most folks when you talk to them suggest there is not enough evidence right now for there to be any type of charges brought against the administration or particularly the obstruction of justice charge. i'm not sure that today's hearing is anything to change the political makeup as of now. that said, i think it is only andg to bolster the notion the rhetoric coming from the administration's critics, some
of whom are republican, to get more intelligence, to get more documents handed over. we did see one heated exchange, the attorney general jeff notions dodged whether or he would hand over any documents of a personal note taken between the president and the attorney general. ,gain, he did not invoke technically, executive privilege, but he did manage to dodge questions about his own personal communications with the president, saying there is precedent for that. some republicans say they remember one attorney general eric holder during the obama administration did the same type of political strategy. either way, julia, another day, another russia hearing, and another day that we are not talking about what the white house wants to be talking about, workforce development. julia: report -- great point, kevin. i want to ask you about
the hearing and pick up on what kevin said about executive privilege or at least jeff sessions observing the right of president trump to use executive privilege and he got into a heated debate with senator harris over what content it is at the department of justice that allows this. it did not seem like the attorney general could respond about where that law effectively comes from. do we get more information going forward, as the chairman of alluded to? sahil: that's correct, julia. he did not use the words by theive privilege," attorney general did refuse to answer many questions about the nature of the conversations with the president regarding comey, and he used the words "i do not recall" or "i don't recall" many times at this hearing. i suspect that is what democrats will put the focus on, using that as evidence that there are things that the trump administration is hiding. you saw sessions get pretty irked and pretty angry, unusual
for a man like him who is pretty ven-keeled..-- e he sees these charges as an attack on his integrity and that really bothered him. i he talked about scurrilous and you sawlegationsl and particularly heated exchange between him and senator wyden was accusing him of stonewalling and not satisfied with the answers he was getting, and you saw the democratic senator joe manchin asked him about whether he knew about conversations other members of the trump campaign had with russia come even listing name after name after name, and on every name, the attorney general said "i do not recall" or "i'm not aware of any conversations." it is unclear what came out of this hearing in terms of legal revelations, but politically the issue will continue to loom very large over this white house. julia: you are absolutely right, and i want to make the point
that he did not deny that there could have been a third meeting with the russian ambassador. he said he just cannot recall it. another one of the critical questions that wanted answering here. kevin, i want to get your point, attention here taken away from the business of enacting policy in washington. donald trump speak today, talking about the health bill debated in the senate. i want everybody to listen to what donald trump said about that. oh, actually, we don't have that. kevin, i want to get your take on that, please, because apparently he called the house health bill "mean." signals are and the that they feel the version out of the house is too conservative for the moderate upper chamber in the senate. i'm told that are working in the senate on the health care legislation, they are going to have to move it to the middle. one i interviewed, top
republicans in the house freedom caucus, they have washed their hands clean of these negotiations as goes on to the senate. i want to go back to the hearing and your's point point, too, about what we just saw with the attorney general testimony, because there is a going moment here that is to -- cybersecurity policy, particularly with the relationship with the russians. that is that the attorney general testified under oath that he has not received a briefing on the cyberattacks and russia meddling. i think as lawmakers, particularly this week, are voting on legislation crafted by republicans such as the senate banking committee chairman mike crapo on a new sanctions against , hacking into political institutions -- and by the way, everyone in the financial sector knows about the risks of cybersecurity in the financial market sector -- to hear from the attorney general that there has been no briefing on at 2016urity and
election, that is a moment we will be talking about for quite some time, especially with the backdrop of these sanctions about to pass this week. julia: kevin, really great point, and it cuts to the heart of what we should be debating here, particularly with midterms coming up. kevin cirilli, chief washington r,rrespondent, and sahil kapu national political reporter, guys, thank you very much. that is all for our coverage of attorney general jeff sessions' testimony "bloomberg technology" is in progress with an exclusive interview with apple ceo tim cook. what you see now as your bid for the future of personal computing, all of these platforms? the great thing is they are all built on the same core go through but we how they are used and the experience needed to get the best experience for the user in
each of the cases. macos.that came ios and we think that when you begin to risk is the lowest common denominator kind of approach, and we are staying away from that. i know others that have a different view, but that is our view, and we are straightforward with it. and so with tv, we wanted to get an update that amazon was tvning the tv app and apple later in the year. we will have more to say on what we are doing in that area later. i will keep you in suspense a while there. from: a cliffhanger there apple ceo tim cook in our exclusive conversation. by oure, we are joined bloomberg tech reporter. alex, we will get to tv, but
let's start with cars, because this is the first time that tim cook has personally lifted the veil on the apple car ambitions. what was the most illuminating thing to you that he had to say? alex: i think it was interesting that he spoke at such length about electric vehicles. we wrote about this and them paring back their ambitions last year, but the fact that he spoke so bullishly about electric vehicles and the experience that gives customers, and apple constantly harps on the customer experience with their products -- the fact that he spoke about that it may be resurrected down the line if they manage the economist piece. emily: given the autonomous peace come he said autonomy can be applied to a lot of things, but especially to cars, do we have any new clues about what apple is actually working on? alex: well, we know from our
conversations over the past year or so with any number of people in this space that apple tried very hard to sell its autonomous platform, it's car platform, to carmakers. now, what they are doing, in terms of what he said, being quite coy about what they are going to do with products down the line, i don't think we know yet. they are trying to nail this autonomous piece and that will allow them to make a decision, whether they acquire a carmaker, partner with a carmaker, or design their own cart that is subsequently manufactured by a contract manufacturer, like a canadian company who can go out and build the car. emily: we do know that apple has been testing self-driving cars on the road, correct? bloomberg has obtained pictures of the testing, and apple does have a public permit with the dmv to do so. alex: yes, and we have heard
from our sources and written about this, they got the permit only recently, but they have been served viciously testing things for a little while now, over a year. they have half a dozen cars on the road. compare that to the likes of google, where scores of cars racking up miles, which allows them to test the machine-learning algorithm how to drive without a human holding wheels. emily: last question on tv. we note he gave us the anger on tv. -- the big cliffhanger on tv. bloomberg has reported that they could potentially unveil a new apple tv set-top box this year. do you think that is what he is referring to? alex: i think that seems like a good possibility. 4k, very high definition, and we reported that before christmas they were in talks with film studios about being able to release films a little closer to their cinematic release date, and to do that, one expects them to have really high definition
pictures in order to be able to appeal to people who are going to not bother watching a film in the cinema but instead watching it at home on their massive super high definition television. emily: alex webb in a d.c. come our bloomberg tech reporter who covers apple. we will have more of our exclusive interview with apple ceo tim cook airing throughout. coming up, the role of tech in combating terror. a new pact between the u.k. in france. this is bloomberg. ♪
emily: french president emmanuel macron welcomed u.k. prime minister theresa may to the elysee palace for her first meeting with a foreign leader since the u.k. election. a main topic of discussion, combating terror. aree minister may: we launching a joint u.k.-french campaign to ensure that the web cannot be used as a safe space for criminals and cannot be used
to host radicalizing materials that lead to so much harm. emily: tackling extremism has become a major priority for both governments. christians election campaign was interrupted by 2 deadly attacks -- britain's election campaign was interrupted died 2 deadly attacks in manchester and london. joining us this caroline hyde. what are they pushing for and how with a an act it? -- how would they enact it? caroline: it seems to be a new legal liability, emily. this is ripping a page from what the german government is discussing. if the tech giants don't quickly enough take down any sort of terrorist-related content, any hate speech, illegal content, they will potentially be deemed illegally acting and also find. beenis something that has talked about by the party home affairs select committee here in the u.k. this is something that the german government had been
discussing, up to 50 million euros is what germany has been number. no wonder we are starting to see the leaders in the u.k. and france say the same. emily: some tech giants have responded, including facebook. caroline: this is something they embracing themselves, i think, for since the tragic attacks in london. theresa may had been bracing them on the so-called safe space for terrorists on social media. google has come forward saying they have invested heavily, highlighting the links they are going to on tech related solutions and also human-related solutions. pmea for facebook was at a conference talking against terrorism, saying "we want to be a hostile environment for terrorists, there is no place for content on our site."
the european commission just this month came out and said they are doing pretty well, that the companies have made significant progress in taking this sort of content off-line. but when you have got hundreds of millions of pieces of content, how quickly are you able to do this? this is clearly something they perhapse to fight, and like fake news, have to realize their responsibility and be more proactive rather than reactive. emily: and the public is dealing with fresh fears around new term or attacks. what is the public's reaction here? for do they come down? -- where do they come down? caroline: i think it is fascinating because this is something that politicians are trying to put into the forefront mind, butlic's whether the public blames social media, the jury is out. the media is coming down hard. newspaper, the most widely read newspaper in the united kingdom, is calling the tech companies fatcats, saying
that they should be helping push against this terrorist content. equally, you have prominent mp's, particularly a labour mp who is in opposition she has used crucial language here, saying youtube has been getting away, she says, with a dangerous and irresponsible approach to extremism for too long and it is disgraceful. they do seem to have the public not on their side at the moment. emily: more to come. caroline hyde in london for us. thanks so much, caroline. coming up come on the day that u.s. attorney general jeff sessions testifies before the senate, bloomberg is out with an exclusive report that russian hacks on the u.s. voting system could be wider than. leno. this is bloomberg. ♪
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attorney general jeff sessions testified before the senate intelligence panel about the firing of former fbi director james comey and the investigation into russian hacking in the 2016 presidential election. this is what attorney general sessions had to say about his participation in any collusion. sessions: the suggestion that i participated in any collusion, that i was aware of any collusion with the russian government to hurt this country, which i have served with honor for 35 years, or to undermine the integrity of our democratic process, is an up and detestable -- appalling and detestable lie. fact -- that i did not answer senator franken's question accurately here that is false. emily: bloomberg reported that russian hacking during the presidential election was far wider than previously reported with a voting his -- system of
35 states hit by attacks. i want to start with sessions. what new did we learn, but more and probably, what didn't we learn from his testimony today? reporter: a lot could be made about jeff sessions' refusal to answer almost all the material questions put to him, but we did learn a couple of really critical things. for one, for what may be the first time a trump administration official has acknowledged that russia tempered with the election in a critical way, but at the same time, attorney general session nevercknowledged he will -- he never received any briefings regarding cyber attacks on the u.s. and the total infrastructure, which is remarkable when you consider he would be the person responsible for prosecuting and charging any usential perpetrators behind attacks, if they were arrestable. you have been
reporting on the russian hacks into the u.s. presidential election. you say that 39 states may have been compromised. talk to us about the extent of what you learned. reporter: it's a pretty big deal. as we reported today, as many as 39 states across the u.s. had indicators of compromise showing that portions of their electoral systems were infected by the same russian group responsible for attacking the dnc and hillary clinton's campaign. these were not all statewide systems. some more county and some more local, but that doesn't mean they weren't important. some of those local and county systems are the most important you can have in a state, because those are systems that actually run elections. that they point is that the systems number we knew, in 20 states reported by nbc, now we know it's as many as -- 39.ine the real question cross as a
country is how do we know how deeply the attackers have burrowed themselves into our electoral system? the fact is, we don't know the extent of it. unfortunately, the government doesn't know either. that's a scary process -- prospect considering we are going into another election cycle. emily: on that note, do we have any evidence to show this actually affected the election results? reporter: we don't. former fbi director james comey testified previously there's no evidence of the hackers actually changed of votes. but we do have evidence alice -- out of illinois, the canary in the coal mine that alerted the government to the ongoing hacks, that in that state the attackers tried to alter or delete voter'' names and addresses. that is a big deal. if you tinker with enough of those data fields and people go to try to vote and they are not in the voter rolls at their
precinct they will not be able to vote,. ont, or they have to vote provisional ballots. the idea of tampering can take many forms. it is pretty apparent that the hackers in this case were experimenting with a few different varieties of how to tinker with electoral systems. emily: bloomberg's jordan roberts, excellent reporting. thank you for that update. now to a story we are watching. airline passengers may soon be able to put away their ids and boarding passes on flights. we will bring you more of that story when we had it.airline passengers awayoon be able to put their ids and boarding passes at screening lines as the tsa begins an experiment with fingerprints to verify identities. the tsa would be the latest security agency or business to begin using automated biometric information to verify people's identity.
emily: back now to our exclusive conversation with apple ceo tim cook. apple just issued a $1 billion green bond fund renewable energy generation, building on $1.5 billion worth of lines the company sold a year ago to further its goal of furthering 100% of operations on renewable energy.this comes after president trump withdrew the u.s. from the paris climate
accord. tim cook is one of the silicon valley leaders who asked the president not to pull out. we asked how this would affect apple's relationship with the white house. mr. cook: i think he did listen to me. he didn't decide what i wanted him to decide. i think he decided wrong. i think it's not in the best interest of the united states, what he decided. but the way that i look at this thing, do you interact with -- mycians or do you not view is that first and foremost, things are about, can you help your country? if you can help your country and you do that by interacting, then you do it. the country eclipses politics. know, if there's something that we can work together that helps people in the united states, then of
course we would do it. emily: you have other people that are leaving the table, though. like bob iger, like elon musk. is the president jeopardizing his relationship with his key constituencies, the business community? mr. cook: i would differentiate leaving a council and advising in a way that you think could help our country. i think the first one is a judgment call that people make. i didn't join a council. so it's not a decision i had to make, but i understand both sides of that. but advising on something that you believe will help america i think is a requirement as a ceo. you definitely do that. chance toif i get the go pitch the paris agreement again, i'm going to do it again, because i think it is very important that we engage to
fight climate change on a global basis. this isn't something where you can solve it country by country. .t requires a global action emissions created in one country affect another. it is something that we feel very strongly about, and i wanted to do every single thing that how how do important it was to stay in the agreement. unfortunately, he decided something different. emily: why didn't you join the council? mr. cook: two reasons. one, my primary job is being the ceo of the company. i spend the bulk of my waking hours doing that. i do so willingly because i love the kind -- company and the people in it. traveling back east isn't something that i look forward to
doing, except when i need to do it. secondly, i don't find these councils in general and committees to be terribly productive. about not wanting to advise on something where i help, orhat we could we had a point of view that should be heard. so i'm doing the letter. i can't imagine a situation where i wouldn't do the letter -- latter, because it's in the best interest of americans to do it, and i am forced and foremost -- first and foremost an american. emily: this is important to the country. how would you like a repatriation bill to be restructured? mr. cook: it should be a deemed repatriation. this means it should be a required text. thisu are -- hacks -- means it should be a required tax.
must payaying that you the government x percent now or over some period of time. my own advice would be is that the u.s. use that money for a significant infrastructure because it the u.s., creates jobs. there are people who would argue we don't need an investment in america. that's what i think should be done. i think it should have been done years ago, but it hasn't. tomorrow is good. clear you have made it that the privacy of apple users is of utmost importance to you, even as terror attacks continue to happen around the world. does the new ios strengthen user security and privacy? mr. cook: these terrorist attacks, first of all, our heart goes out to everyone affected by them. and -- they are
horrendous. the u.k. is our neighbor. we have thousands of employees there. our heart goes out. what do we do to help with this? we have done one thing since the beginning of the app store, we curate the app store. we don't want hate speech on there. we don't want these recruiting , so we haveere tried to be very careful from the beginning about not having that stuff on there. emily: some of our exclusive interview with apple ceo tim cook. we will have more of the interview coming up, including what he has to say about the apple's answer to amazon echo. we are leading up to the fed decision at 2 p.m., as well as
emily: back to our exclusive interview with apple ceo tim cook. in part three of the conversation, we discussed where the big innovation at apple will come from in the future, and the recently announced home pod, the answer to amazon echo and google home. i started by as -- asking about the newest addition, the home part. mr. cook: the underlying technology is something to behold. to get the experience that we ,anted at the quality we wanted like apple products in general take multiple years to do. out there have people saying, "finally, what took so long?" mr. cook: for us, it has never
been about being first. we didn't have the first mp3 player. we didn't have the first smartphone. we didn't have the first tablet. arguably, we shipped the first modern mp3 player, the first modern smartphone, the first modern tablet, but we were not first. for us, it's not about being first. it's about being the best. emily: it is the 10th anniversary of the iphone. -- youeiled the new irs, unveiled the new ios, ios 11. what can you tell us? mr. cook: i can tell you it is unbelievable, both for iphone and ipad. it's doing incredible things like peer-to-peer payments. it is the biggest ipad released ever. an area that i had great personal excitement -- i'm excited about all of it, but i'm incredibly excited about ar.
developers, of the we will have the largest augmented reality platform in the world. arly: you talked a lot about and yard with regards to developers, but what about consumers? mr. cook: with a color technology -- core technology, the first thing, arguably the most important thing in some ways, is to build the foundation. from that you can build many things. first, you have to have a solid foundation. emily: peter thiel says he believes innovation in smartphones is over. are the days of quantum leap smartphone innovation over, or are there more to come? mr. cook: i don't agree with that view at all. the thing that drives quantum leaps is the core technology. when i think about all of the things that are going to change from a core technology point of view in the future, i think
we're just getting started. i'm incredibly excited. clearly, there's nothing that i think virtually anybody would say is going to replace the smartphone anytime soon. on, thehas gone smartphone has become more important to people's lives. when it started, the phone call was still the dominant reason for having it. now if you look at what people are doing on smart phones, it is a minor piece of what a fun is now. -- of what a phone is now. the i look at that, and help kit, getting people's data on, car play, i'm controlling all of my house with siri using the iphone. i think about all of these things. -- you just it
don't leave home without your iphone. i think it is in the early stages still. i don't see it in that light at all. emily: controlling your home with a device is still a fairly niche behavior. when do you see that becoming more mainstream? mr. cook: i think it's going to become more mainstream this year, honestly. we have built it into ios 10. after that, you saw more and more accessories coming to the market that were home kid enabled. it is easy to set up. we just made it easier for accessory vendors to be compatible with home kits, because you now can use software encryption. you don't have to have hardware encryption. i think that also unleashes even more accessory guys to join. i think people increasingly will want to automate different parts of their home. i wouldn't live without it at this point. it's one of those things, how
could i ever have done that in a different manner? emily: in the past, he said ipad is our clearest expression in our version of the future for computing. but sales continue to fall. why is that? mr. cook: we make bot i'm happy with whatever choose to buy -- people choose to buy. some people only by a mac, some people only want an ipad. many people buy both. what we want to do is bring more productivity features to the ipad. some people decide they would rather have an ipad pro, and that is great. i think people that have an ipad would want an upgrade. but the mac remains very important to us. both of them are computing devices. we will keep investing in both because we think both have a great future. -- of the reason that ipads
just looking at the numbers, you see the units are going down. keep in mind the ipad mini came out at a point in time that smartphones were pretty small. people had 3.5 inch or four inch screens on their smart phone. one thing we are seeing is a natural move to a smart phone not taking all of the market, but taking a piece of it. we are ok with that, too. the seven plus is phenomenal. we are seeing growth rates that have shocked us. emily: our exclusive conversation with apple ceo tim cook. you can catch the full interview online at bloomberg.com, or this weekend on the special edition of bloomberg's "studio 1.0." it is airing throughout the weekend. now it is time to find out who is having the best day ever. the winner is disney's abc.
the golden state warriors championship clinching the win over the cleveland cavaliers, producing the highest tb rating for an nba finals game five 1998. it was also the second most streamed nba contest with an average audience of over 500,000 viewers. the only other nba game with a larger streaming audience -- the decisive game seven of the 2016 finals. that does it for this edition of "bloomberg technology." tomorrow, we will be live at the e3 gaming conference with nintendo america's president. that is 5 p.m. new york time, 2 p.m. in san francisco. that's all for today. this is bloomberg. ♪