tv Charlie Rose Bloomberg October 29, 2017 7:00am-8:00am EDT
♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin this evening with a focus on the opioid addiction problem. it claims over 100 lives daily. today, president trump declared the situation a public health emergency. in a speech alongside families affected, the president called it the worst drug crisis in american history. pres. trump: my administration is officially declaring the opa
-- opioid crisis a national public health emergency under federal law. that is why i am directing all executive agencies to use every appropriate emergency authority to fight the opioid crisis. this marks a critical step in confronting the extraordinary challenge that we face. charlie: the president's announcement fulfills a longtime pledged but falls short in declaring a national state of emergency. joining me from washington is jenna johnson, a reporter for the washington post. i'm pleased to have her here on this program this evening. tell me about the president and what he is attempting to do. jenna: he said he wants out -- to help those already addicted and prevent more people from becoming addicted. but declaring this health emergency, he is getting some of the help more quickly. they are trying to set up thatedicine program so
people living in isolated towns can get treatment remotely. they're hoping to expand the number of treatment places, where those on medicaid can go and get treatments. they might make some grant money available through the department of labor for those who are addicted and need a job. and are perhaps having trouble finding work because they have a criminal record. a lot of what is happening with this national public emergency is that they are trying to get help more quickly to people. one thing that is not happening with this is getting more money to the problem. the white house is saying they hope congress will step up. there is not a lot of money that comes with these kind of problems. willare hoping more donate. experts say it could cost tens
of billions of dollars to properly address this. charlie: there are reasons why he did not call it a national state of emergency. what are they? jenna: these are two different things than he has a commission on this crisis. they said he can't pick either -- could pick either one of these. if he declared a national emergency, which is what he said he would do, that would be just like after a tornado for a -- or a hurricane. where you have targeted areas that need help very quickly, and they need a lot of money very quickly. had he done that, certain states and certain areas would've been able to apply for federal disaster dollars and the white house is saying they did not think they would let them do anything they could not do without a public health emergency. so what they did is, they did a public health emergency. this is what we did back in 2009. the obama administration did this with that influenza virus going around.
what this does is it allows the department of health and human services to relax some of the regulation and to make an effort to get help out there more quickly. the white house says they picked this option because they thought it better addressed the issue. charlie: what difference will it make that the president says homeland security and the postal service says they will prevent fentanyl from coming in from china? jenna: this is been a big issue. the white house and others are looking at how are these trucks -- drugs coming into the country. addicts are getting them from a variety of ways. sometimes they were legally prescribed and then sold on a
black market. -- coming in illegally into the country in the mail. this is something already underway and has been underway for a while. again, looking at every avenue possible, just trying to cut off the supply chains. charlie: originally, tom marino was going to be the drug czar. he has withdrawn his nomination because of controversy developed. when do we expect the president to nominate another drug czar? jenna: they haven't said yet. we are also without a permanent health secretary because tom price stepped down. those are very key positions. the white house said they are urgent spots that the president wants to fill, but they did not give us any indication as to when we could expect to see some nominees. charlie: what did the president -- what is the next step for the
administration for the federal government? jenna: money. this all comes down to money. a lot of advocates that we talked with today said the president can call this whatever kind of emergency he wants to call it. what we really need is more money. more money for treatment. more money to help people. just more money. the white house is pointing to congress, saying they're the ones who need to find that. that is what we're all waiting to see. the initiatives can help make a little bit of progress on top of what already is being done, the people are saying they paid -- they need billions of dollars to really do the sweeping changes they want. charlie: when you look at the politics of this thing, how does it play? jenna: this is an issue that is impacting the entire country. the really is not a community
that has not been affected by this opioid crisis. any when talk to have someone they know who has dealt with this or perhaps has died of an overdose. this is especially hitting the states where the president won. that were very critical to his win last year. states on the east coast like pennsylvania, in the midwest like ohio, indiana. a lot of these more world communities. hurting them. i talked to people in small communities to say their local mortuary is having a hard time keeping up with all of the bodies that keep showing up. death rate that small communities cannot keep up with and it is young people.
people who are supposed to be the future of these communities. so this is something that is really hurting trump country. he is hearing from them. he is hearing that they want him to take care of them. to follow through on his campaign promise to make this go away. charlie: thank you so much. jenna: thank you for having me. charlie: back in a moment. ♪ ♪ charlie: we continue our discussion with a distinguished panel of experts. the director of the national institute on drug abuse at the national institute of health. from boston, an addiction medical physician and the former chief of addiction medicine. with me is the vice
president of the eastside service center. i'm pleased to have each of them. tell me where we are today. we've spoken to what the president said. tell me where we are today in terms of the crisis and what is necessary to get our hands around this. >> it is worse than it has ever been. i work for an agency and the -- in the city, the lower east side service center, that has been fighting the battle for the last 58 years. there was a time when he was -- it was confined areas in new york city like the lower east side and harlem and bad parts of brooklyn, but it has changed. now, it has affected everyone. the affluence, the whites, and wonderful areas like long island and staten island. scarsdale. it's -- charlie: it is as much in rural areas as urban areas.
peter: exactly. it used to be confined to pockets of minorities but that has changed. more people are using opioids than ever before. the cbc said or than 140 people overdose every day. that, 140 people overdose every day. it is a complex problem. charlie: almost everybody knows somebody that has been a victim. peter: absolutely. this is the thing people do not talk about. because this is embarrassing, shameful. nowadays, i cannot think -- i've been in the field for quite some time. i cannot think of anyone i talked to that isn't affected directly or indirectly through a friend, family member. i find people are talking about it more than they have ever talked about it before. charlie: how did we get here? >> we got here probably 25, 30 years ago.
perhaps with the intentions of trying to treat patients suffering from pain but without the sufficient knowledge. we became complacent and started to overprescribed opioid medication under the belief that if a patient has pain, they would not become addicted and under the belief you can increase the dosage of opioids to high levels without risk in the life of the patient and unfortunately, neither of those things turned out to be right. when prescription lets a diversion of the medications. getting, seek out for high. also those with prescriptions led to an addiction of the medications. some of them were becoming addicted and overdosing. we became complacent as a health care system. on the other hand, we have the need of 25 million people in the united states that suffers from chronic pain daily. that is a huge number, and it can be quite devastating.
charlie: i read somewhere one in 10 people who get surgery in this country will go on to become a continued opioid user. interesting. my father was just hospitalized for a that viral infection. people in genuine pain are being under prescribed pain. i agree that there are many patients in whom opioid painkillers are actually clinically indicated. my concern now is the pendulum is swinging too far the other transition to a clinically indicated to get opioid painkillers are not getting it. having said that, i agree with dr. volkow, doctors do not have the training they need to properly and appropriately medications. truth be told, i never learned any of this during medical school or residency. i went to really good institutions.
everything i've learned and i'm talking about now has been on the job training. where over 50% of the men and women have substance abuse issues. all of these things prompted me to learn more about addiction. doctors, surgeons, they never got any of this training. hence the misprescribing that happens is not surprising. federal organizations and agencies are all really recognizing the strong need to educate medical students and trainees now in addiction and understanding the brain biology and how substances like alcohol, heroin, and other opioids like percocet bind to birth of the brain that control decision-making, craving.
the amygdala, the emotional center, the fight or flight, these substances are hijacking the brain and preventing people from really controlling their behavior. charlie: i don't know how long ago it was when i first met you. because of your expertise in the area of addiction. what are we learning today? dr. volkow: we have an enormous amount with respect to have drugs actually hijack. they hijack circuits that are there from evolution for us to survive as a issues and individuals. they take them over and trigger
adaptations, new pathways that favor the motivation to take the drug at the expense of everything else. we have learned, among other changes byt these these drugs are very long-lasting. when you stop taking the drugs and say i don't have a problem at all, that is not correct. it is a chronic disease of the brain. why you in the treatment interventions, what the evidence shows is continued care for addiction, just like you have for hypertension or diabetes. you are not going to be able to cure it. not now. but we can treat it. nations can recover in lead very normal lives. have gone through
this and know it firsthand. peter: it is where i been to the table. i am sober a 27 years. when i was going through my darkest days, i lost everything. what opioid did to me i can do to myself. i gave it away. it was more important than my wife, daughter, money -- charlie: because of the pain? peter: i had gotten into it and couldn't come out of it. it was so strong. i mean, it is a brain disease and i am glad we're putting that on the table. i did not want to lose everything. my dignity, my respect, my daughter, who is so precious to me. the drug this sort of like this. do you want the drugs or do you want your daughter? you have a choice. well, i want both. i want my daughter but i need the drugs to be with my daughter. i consider myself one of the lucky ones. anyone can get sober. you can put someone on rikers island for a couple months, you will get sober. this is an about getting sober.
it is how do we stay sober. had you put a day together and got to the second day? what do you do? how do you get out of the quicksand? the thing that is killing us. first of all, treatment works. people need to understand that. charlie, i went to nine different treatment centers. short-term to long-term. the last treatment center i went to is the same organization i work for. a long-term treatment center. i went in there after three and a half years. everyone doesn't have to go to treatment for three and a half years. money was different then. there were guys and women that lived in treatment for four and five years. there was more money available. the point is, if someone had cut this off of the second or third treatment center and given up and said we are not paying for this, i would not be here today. the truth is, every time a person relapses is one step
closer to them getting sober or dying. so i know what i have. this diseases vicious. charlie: you say "i know what i have." peter: i know what i have and i know what i have. i might not want to be a drug addict. it is a difficult situation. the only thing i have to do is not drink and not drug. i am given this life to do what i do now and carry the message. peter: what happened at the glory side service center? charlie: it is a wonderful organization that has been in service for many years. we deal with opioids, hiv/aids, mental health. there are people on the streets heroin, and after a month
or two of being pregnant, they realize they can do something. they can live with us by the time they're pregnant, have their baby in bellevue, and live with us for a three-year in a years in a safe environment and we will teach them how to live without drugs. charlie: what do you think of the president talking about nih and taking the first steps for a public-private partnership to develop non-addictive alternatives and treatments? dr. volkow: this is a very important initiative we have been working on since the beginning of the summer. the idea is we are going to solve this crisis by every buddy -- by every party getting involved in it. that involves the government, of course but also industry. industry can play an extremely
important role. it is two-pronk. have sufficiently good that don't have side effects. but we need better pain medications. the science is out there to take them and develop into products, which is what pharma does. the patients and their families are the ones that -- why do you think they need to move this forward? how can weer area is develop new formulations for medications that can help people addicted to opioids be able to recover. it was mentioned, imagine being addicted to heroin and have to go to a day-to-day basis to a methadone clinic. it is an hour away. you have to make it every day, will i go to the clinic are no? how about a medication you can take every week or month that will prevent you from overdosing or relapsing? how can we create this partnership to plan the second
-- this type of research? and a very important area that we have been discussing, how do we also create better treatment intervention that are more effective and accidental overdoses? now we see the lacing of heroin with very potent fentanyl or other drugs, where patients are required three or four doses. potent,develop more more longer-lasting drugs that patientsnt and protect better. if you're are a high risk person, it could basically reduce your risk of overdosing. this is why we have innovation and science.
science transforms the way we solve problems. in medicine, that is what we are for other diseases. charlie: let me turn to dr. roy. give your assessment of what the president that and where you think we need to focus for the future. dr. roy: i believe the president's message is moving in the right direction. we certainly need funding but let's be really clear. there are people right now struggling and dying of a disease that is preventable. it is not a mystery, we know how to treat people with addiction. there are three fda medications available now. we need to get people this treatment. of the 23 million americans, only 10% access treatments. can you imagine if i was told only 10% of my diabetic nations -- patients got treatment? that means the rest would be dying of heart disease, strokes, and kidney failure. by the way, i would probably lose my medical license. yet for substance disorder, we seem to be fine with that and that is unacceptable. we need to get people to treatment they need. life-saving medications but we
need to intervene in several stages. obviously the late stage were people are overdosing and dying. they need to get the locks and or narcan. but we need to be able to treat both with medications and counseling, but we also need better pull to treat and diagnose so training doctors can make sure they recognize that. we need to focus on the kind of roots of addiction, which is really pain in suffering. for as long as human beings exist, pain and suffering well exist. as long as we do not address that, people will continue to self-medicate. toer: i would like to add what the doctor said about this. part of the equation has to be taken into consideration. the stigma and shame.
the reason i wanted to come on here and share this personal story is perhaps this will give courage to people. when i come on a show like yours as someone in recovery for a amount of time, it reminds the viewing audience that look, there is hope. they can come on and tell the audience. they can say, i'm looking at 27 years. there is hope. this is what i have to do. hopefully, someone is listening saying, maybe i can do something and should pick up the phone. there is treatment. we need money for, but there are centers available today. there is a tremendous amount of hope. i know what it is like to be desperate. there were really dark days. somehow i never gave up and with
the grace of god i got sober. and stayed sober. i hope someone listens to me and says, he is on there. he is sober. terrible bottom. it is the most impact. you can share with you tonight. dr. roy: i really commend this gentleman. first of all, i congratulate him on his recovery and i cannot emphasize enough how storytelling of success and the work he is doing, we need far more organizations like this to provide care. science and evidence-based data from people like us and stories of recovery from this gentleman from the lower east side service center. we need far more organizations like this. science and evidence-based. stories like this gentleman's recovery. that is what we need. ♪
♪ charlie: robert plant's best known of the front man for one of the most successful bands in rock history, led zeppelin. rolling stones ranked him the best lead singer of all time. his soul look or has spanned 3.5 decades and the 11 albums. his new album is called "carry fire her coat the new york times called it "a swirling mix of deep blues, heavyweight." here's a look at the single "bluebirds over the mountain." ♪ >> bluebirds over the mountain
eagles over the sea bluebirds over the mountain bring my baby back to me. ♪ charlie: did you simply know -- leonard cohen talked about this. he had a great voice, not the perfect voice, but a great voice people one to hear. going on.omething was i did not know what it was but i howinfatuated right different you can be with the aid of some sonic device. you could be, i'm not know. a classroom, i can hear something else going on outside of just singing on my bicycle. i had this other boys coming through. yes. i was actually glad to get it. charlie: but then people
noticed. the more people notice, the more you want to figure it out. robert: it is cause and effect. you begin your plan very naively. and, for a guy who just sings at the sharp end of everything, there is a lot of instrumentation going on around you. far moreo are musically talented usually than the front man. -- iront man gets is great don't know. it is like i'm a launch. melange. like a it is like, i could pick up all kinds of rhythms these guys are creating. it, mimic it,ugh i can join in. charlie: they give you with the sound the place to carry this
forward. robert: sure. a place to carry this forward. i make an inference. following notations from a guitar or whatever was to try to get in with them crazing -- cravings of a very rude scat. some things -- they give me something to do and some very long solos, as well. i could come in and come out very long sustained notes of sometimes gibberish. charlie: you are celebrating your 50th year with led zeppelin next year? robert: it is true. in 1968, there was a collision gift.d and a that ceased.ago, charlie: has it been that long? but 50 years ago it came together in 1968. describe what you just did.
robert: a collision of sound, mind, intention, energy. we were really young, a lot of things went boom. charlie: don't remind me. a grammy for best rock album. robert: yeah. charlie: still doing it. still doing it. robert: there is a lot of romance about it because it did not blow itself out of the water. it did not go on too long. it just stopped. charlie: you mean led zeppelin. it just stopped. robert: that was the deal when we got together at the beginning. that would be it. we couldn't carry on -- if we cannot carry on as four, that would be it. when you only have four people, it is hard to think about full-time replacement. charlie: do ever listen to this music? how did you come about "carry "?re
robert: a lot of people said that is a good picture and i said who is it. charlie: you like it. robert: yes. a little more stern than i would like. charlie: how did it come about? robert: the same guys i have been working with on and off since 2001, we venture together with a little bit of changing personnel. we went around the world with the previous record. i spent some time living in the united states and i finally went back to britain, we reconvened and got together. charlie: and this came out of it? robert: this is the second one. it is the first time i made a record with the same people twice since 1977i think. this is a great place to be today. it is very expressive. "carry: what about
fire"? robert: that is a tough job, but we all do it. it is marking time and all the cause and effect that he leave around you. and you have to go back. some of it is right and the stuff that is right you have to make it even more relevant and impactful. charlie: who wrote these? robert: my chums and myself. charlie: did you write these collectively? get around a table like this? robert: not as lavish as this. a tiny little room. and we have a lot of ideas. each of these guys has his own studio set up and works around the globe and other projects too. every time we think there is enough material interesting enough to put into the cauldron, we convene, we get together and play out.
charlie: i read where you said there were not many front men left and you named three. mick, and rod stewart. a front man is what by definition? robert: a guy who cannot hide. of course there are a lot of other people around. but here in britain. those two guys were around a little before me. also from the who. roger alton. altry.er d maybe we should get together once a year. charlie: i think you should have a celebration. and i could come to that party. robert: i would like to see you
buy the drinks. [laughter] charlie: it is a skill that is beyond voice, too, isn't it? it is a presence because you cannot hide. robert: to a degree. in days a long time ago, it was a little more bonus on individual musicality -- more onerous in terms of individual musicality. charlie: do you sing when nobody is listening? robert: yeah. i have various songs that alter time have come back to me. i was a huge fan of anything -- of benny king when he was with the drifters and left and all that stuff. my mom was not keen on me singing. perhaps she knew better than most. to she gave way when it came benny king's songs. i always used to sing them. so many great songs. in the zeppelin days, we were signed to atlantic records.
for us, as british musicians, it was beyond -- charlie: this was early i assume. robert: yes. off we went. our label stablemates were everybody from bruce brand, the coasters, the drifters, ray charles. martin jazz quartet, crosby, stills, into nash. obviously, atlantic decided it was more revenue from getting a few of these english bands over. i think a lot of the holy looked upon decisions and jerry webster to some degree was looked at as being a little bit offbeat. they signed dusty springfield. jerry watson worked on that. but we were really, really great. i got to know benny king very well.
charlie: everyone i have ever talked to from the british music scene, there is a direct line from wherever they are or were to the blues in america. whether london, liverpool, wherever they were to the blues in america. robert: magnificent. every morning and still is to me. straight on it. just to get the day going. who is on your playlist? robert: there is a guy named blind lemon johnson from texas called an album matchbox, which someone borrowed and the beatles took it on later. it is one of the best displays of singing and guitar. it is like the ring of light coming through in a recording from 1929. just fantastic. yeah. charlie: do you want to be inducted into the rock 'n roll hall of fame as a solo artist? robert: is that a good place to
be, really? know.e: i don't robert: i don't know. i don't know of the validity of it. i don't know. there's not enough room for the ribbons on my chest. charlie: that is true. you can put them on your back. robert: yes. start having them under my arms. i went to buckingham palace and a kid said, i cannot go there. said, but how else are we going to see inside? he said, you have got to go and get your gong, dad. i did and as i was standing in the line, i look in the public gallery and i see my three kids. i have never seen him looking so smart. charlie: thank you for coming. great to see you. robert: you too. ♪
>> yeha. sure do. $38 a night. >> ok, i warned you. out.rip and you were >> no! >> no! >> come on! it is going to melt outside. >> but bobby. >> thank you very much. >> you are not welcome. >> the man who lives in here gets our rest a lot. >> these are the rooms where not supposed to go in. >> that we go in any way! >> can you get us some paints place? >> open up. >> there's already been a dead fish in the pool.
>> we're going to have to send it back alive. >> water balloons. >> boobies! boobies! >> mom, you are a disgrace. >> new job? ride share. >> if you are a were, who's looking after? >> yeah. >> you are not my father. >> i do not want to be your father. >> you cannot treat me like this. >> you don't think everybody knows what is up? everybody. >> she is about to cry. i can always tell when adults are about to cry. >> was my mommy crying? >> we're just talking. we need to figure something out. see, i took you on a safari. >> have a nice day!
love you, bobbing. >> i love you, too. clip] deo >> charlie: i am pleased to have sean baker at the table for the first time. welcome. what do you think is instructive about the lives and capturing the story you tell of people living on the margin? sean: i think i approach each film, each film is a response to i think, not seeing, in contemporary film and tv at least in u.s. cinema. not enough. and i think my approach to it is very simple. that are more stories told about marginalized communities, subcultures, in minorities, the less marginalized they will be. it is very simple. -- with each film of mine
charlie: because why? in other words, if you show stories about their lives they will become less marginalized because people will then understand more about them and something will change about them? sean: i think it is about putting a human face on perhaps communities that we often look at from a distance or are hidden. my co-screenwriter happen tended have co-screenwriter and i attempted to tell stories in a culture that is not necessarily focused on in that way. and, i think by telling a universal story, showing the make us allds that one, make and sell human, think what it does is that audiences -- it expands peoples -- it allows audiences to say, ok i can identify with this person even though i never thought i
would be able to. because they're outside my circle. and i think that is one step -- rds allowing our charlie: a condition of the world. ask, have you been interested in the life of the people you portrayed here? sean: i didn't know about their life. i didn't know about the issue of the hidden homeless, quite honestly, until my co-screenwriter brought it to my attention. he brought me articles from local news media focusing on this area in orlando, florida and this juxtaposition of children growing up in motels, living in budget motels right outside of the tourist capital of the world and the place we consider the most magical place on earth for children. so i was obviously taken by -- , taken aback by these articles and knew there was something in there in which we could find a
fictionalized story, a story line in there focusing on the lives of these individuals. and also the fact of this juxtaposition focusing on the children, because the children obviously is what made that juxtaposition so sad and real. i've always actually wanted to make a film about children. i've been very inspired and influenced by the little rascals. gang."ch's "our if you think about what they were, they were comic shorts in the great depression, in which most of the characters were living in poverty, but the focus was on kids being kids. the behavioral humor of children. charlie: it was set against the background of the great depression and living in poverty. sean: exactly. i actually thought this would be our opportunity to make almost
an updated -- or a present-day rascals," and focusing on one little girl in particular. a little girl by the name of moony, an rambunctious little rambunctious little six-year-old. charlie: this is bobby telling her and her friend she is causing to much trouble. [video clip]] trouble.>> i got a >> i got it. >> if this happens again, you are out of here. it is only the second week of the summer and there is already a dead fish in the pool. >> we're doing an experiment. we were trying to get it back alive. that was my idea. >> and water balloons thrown at tourists. you can't mess with tourists. >> they didn't tip us!
>> are you serious? i failed as a mother. you disgraced me. >> yeah, mommy. you disgraced me. >> i am going to talk to ashley, by the way. when your friend put you in charge of her kids, those kids become your responsibility. you aren't taking responsibility. from future land, all right. you ruined my night. >> pay the man his three hours. >> i don't have any money. [laughter] charlie: willem defoe. great casting. sean: he is incredible to work with, transformative, he really became this character of bobby. it was an honor to have worked with him.
charlie: in doing research, you went to a lot of motels. looking for what? sean: for information. we were from outside of that world and we needed to -- we wanted to -- will, we approached this -- well, we approached this in a journalistic way. we interviewed people. we approached people who are interested in telling their stories. this involved us speaking to residents of the motels, the small business owners, some of the motel managers, and some of the agencies that provided social services to people in need in the area. him there was one man in particular, a motel manager, who really opens up his world to us in a way. he was our passports in. he felt this was a story that should be told. he was managing one of those budget motels across the street
from the magic castle hotel, where we shot. he was in a very tough position when he was actually working there. it has since closed. he had compassion for the families and the kids were there. \there he understood the struggles they were going through. yet he had a job he had to hold on to. he knew perhaps any night and he might have to evict one of these families and put them out on the street if they cannot come up with the nightly rate. it was a tough position for him. i could see this obvious -- this compassion, but i also saw a distance that he would keep from them. it was a reluctant, parental figure in many ways. i saw it not only with him but a few of the other motel managers. i think that inspired our bobby character. charlie: where the locals wary of you being there? sean: yes, of course, at first. they did not know how we were
going to depict the area. we did have people asking us about our approach to it. and then also just you have parents from the local motels, some of the residents not trusting us at first. we had to basically gain their trust. i think by the time we're actually shooting for the most part, at least with the motels we were shooting on and the agencies we're working with, we were in a very -- it was very collaborative. in a place where i felt the people he wanted to be involved had a very and 20 stick approach that they wanted us to do it correctly. enthusiastic
approach to it. they wanted us to do it correctly. charlie: some people are taking note of the fact that you don't have a lot of plot developments here. almost a sense where you are living with these people and most summers do not have a plot. sean: that is why i am thinking. if you look at the summers of your youth, most summers do not have a three-part structure. the people who want a heavy plotted story might not be able to see on the surface, but it is there. charlie: the casting of moony. sean: she is brooklynn prince. that is the name she was born with. already a hollywood name. with two "n"'s. i really believe she is a prodigy.
she is one of the most incredible actors i've ever worked with at any age. she understands acting. to watch her work is really incredible. she was holding her own with willem defoe. first off, i said i wasn't going to make this film as i found a present-day spanky mcfarland. i think we will have to hold the production off until i found this little girl. she was local. orlando-based. i wanted all the kids to be from the local area. a local casting company by the name of crowd shot had her in their database and suggested we see her and she walked into the room and within seconds won us over. she had those qualities that spanky had. you know, the energy, the wit, the cuteness.
the little puffy cheeks. should would idea deliver tears and really an emotional performance. i think she truly does that in a way that she understood her character and she understood the predicament and circumstance -- charlie: she's your protagonist. sean: yes. i put her in the same camp as jodie foster and mickey rooney, a child actor who was born to do loves it so incredibly
much that i think she will have a bright future. and anecdotes. we had a limited number of hours to work with our children every day because of child labor laws. you get the day and it was like you have to go and she would be upset that she had to go every day because she truly loves acting. ♪ who knew that phones would start doing everything?
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