Skip to main content

tv   Charlie Rose  Bloomberg  November 7, 2017 10:00pm-11:00pm EST

10:00 pm
saying it is our duty to confront the danger from "we must together, and stand strong. anyone who doubts the strength of the u.s. should look to the past." many south korean lawmakers already knew much of this. that wase, one thing clear so, that is really the scene at the moment. heidi: that's right. president donald trump wrapping up a very emotional speech before the national assembly, the south korean parliament. speech chunk of that dedicated to detailing the history of the south korean-american alliance.
10:01 pm
i suppose lawmakers would be relieved to come away with that message and the alliance remains ever strong. the u.s. remains committed to that security alliance to the region and to south korea. let's get more reaction to the president's speech. first, let's get over to our chief asia correspondent who is in seoul and has been listening in. some reaction so far to th that address to the national assembly. we discussed earlier was whether donald trump would go off script. from his cadence and delivery, i suspect he stuck to his grip. it was a speech full of one-liners and messages that perhaps the south koreans were of mixedo hear instead messages. the corery emphatic on relationship, the ironclad nationsship of the two
10:02 pm
have. some of the things that were interesting, he said in a direct message to the regime in north korea, without necessarily naming kim jong-un, he said weapons are not making you safer. they are putting you back in grave danger. and then donald trump said he to a bettera path and brighter future for the north koreans, perhaps alluding to what he mentioned yesterday, and that was that he would be open to having a deal or koreans with the north without necessarily saying that. he also said if you want peace -- saying this to the south koreans -- if you want peace, he must and strong, and called on all nations of the world to enforce and recognize, implemented those u.n. resolutions in north korea, and also those who have diplomatic
10:03 pm
ties to downgrade relations with the north. he said america will not be intimidated and will not allow the destruction of u.s. cities. he called the north korean of kim jong-un a twisted regime, a tragic in the laboratory of misery. one last point i will just recap, he said north korea has perhaps interpreted past u.s. restraint as weakness. he is alluding to the past policies of president obama and others. is aid that interpretation fatal county -- fatal miscalculation. bring in thes former trade minister. what did you make of that speech, and what is the response going to be to it? will they -- what is the response from pyongyang going to be to it? will they largely ignore it or will we get a reaction? >> it was a 35 minute speech
10:04 pm
that embraced the relationship with south korea. number two, his commitment to south korean security. number three, a very strong warning and very strongly worded message against north korean dictatorship. ,hat is interesting for me is only one or two sentences about trade relations between the u.s. and korea. , waiting forhat his arrival, people here in that korea worried differences of views might of theduring the context two presidents here. but the message so far was fine tuning. , his visit has been
10:05 pm
successful and he has been accepted by the people here. haidi: do you come away from that speech with a sense of assurance in the security of the the u.s. andand south korea being really affirmed? >> i want to talk about his mentioning peace through strength. the message we hear quite often from washington, d.c. in handling north korean nuclear issues was the military option was on the table. moon,uth korean president war should be avoided by all means.
10:06 pm
that's the background why people worry about differences in view. i think the official security administration has so far been very successful to send strong messages to north korea and two people around here the very strong alliance between two countries. quick standing in front of the national assembly, you mention donald trump's comment that he wants peace through strength, but donald trump also mentioned the three aircraft carriers nearby loaded up with lots of u.s. military hardware, like , and he also18s
10:07 pm
said nuclear submarines are appropriately positioned nearby. do think it would be wise, given , thatreat from the north the lawmakers behind me approve more spending on military hardware? believe southy , while we need our the northry to stop korean threat, number one, number two, if you hear the wrapup of yesterday's summit meeting, the two leaders have talked about the purchase of high-tech military equipment, including a nuclear summary and a high-tech reconnaissance plane -- submarine, and a high-tech reconnaissance plane. have purchased in the past
10:08 pm
almost a billion dollars worth of equipment. purchases continue, that will help build up our nuclear capability on one hand. , it will helpand to alleviate the trade deficit between the united states and korea. >> any we mentioned trade, was improving trade relations as well. you have that, improving trade relations was certainly something he discussed with the president of south korea. he also had a message debating, as he has this afternoon, saying how can you tolerate a regime that actually kills children impureere ethically .ecause of chinese blood that was quite a message for xi jinping. >> well, china is the second
10:09 pm
largest economy. there are many elements where we have to cooperate with china, , and whyve to compete south korea and the united lead china in particular markets, particularly the service industry. aidi: given that president trump is calling on china to moore, partly on the south korean side, are we going to get into a situation again where these issues with north korea flow negatively into the trade relationship between south korea and china? well, if you look at the
10:10 pm
relationship between korea and china for the last one he five years, these two countries have established diplomatic relations. the achievement they have made is really remarkable. in such a short time, they have such a great deal of achievement, both in terms of political and in trade relationships. , there is athat people jargon that the have frequently used in the past . let us pursue those things in common while setting aside differences. , differences, both problems. one example, the most obvious example was in south korea.
10:11 pm
reacted in a very .wkward manner of course, we don't understand the way china has reacted on , in thise, but anyhow case, again, we try to set aside our differences because the existing relationship is so important for both countries. those are things which have been set aside, are not resolved yet, are set aside for the time being. there is a kind of potential problem there. >> sir, will peace through strength work? on one hand, you have a threat of angry beijing if you have a military buildup on the peninsula. other you see, on the hand, donald trump offering a way to have dialogue?
10:12 pm
is that the way forward? -- dialogueg to combined with the threat of military action, is i going to change behavior that has not changed under any other administration question mark >> ?- administration question ma towell, if we really try avoid war, at the end of the day, to find a solution when the only way to get to there is to have dialogue. butogue, we have tried, after 25 years, it doesn't work. north korea just takes advantage .f the opportunities they have to continue their own nuclear program.
10:13 pm
so, the dialogue we did before cannot be repeated. the two countries, it seems to me, to focus on, to build up the highest degree of pressure on north korea through sanctions or unilateral sanctions by independent countries until north korea comes to the dialogue table. table they come up to the with their own commitment to dismantle their nuclear arsenals , that they have already built up, then there will be no chance to reopen dialogue. so, the pressures should be continued. rishaad: thank you so much for joining us in seoul. in thetrade minister
10:14 pm
south korean government. just a quick reaction to the 35 minute speech by donald trump to the korean national assembly and south korean parliament. withe going to continue more analysis of this speech in which trump called on the world and china to isolate the north it a hellime, calling no person deserves. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> it maybe a bit of both, that this is a young man who has incredible confidence that he has a way to chart a whole
10:15 pm
different saudi arabia. after all, he is changing the way the country is ruled. he is changing who rules it. he is also incredibly vulnerable. that'sthe things interesting is he may be picking up some of these people to father ist when his incapacitated or dies, that there is not a challenge to his own power, that he does get the throne. he has made a lot of mistakes in a short time. he became defense minister at age 29. he was behind to the saudi war on yemen, which has become their vietnam. he got engaged with the andnsula on the saudi coast it has not done well. hasroyal family there managed to survive isolation by its neighbor. , the saudi's think they should have a more important role in the region.
10:16 pm
this particular branch of the family thinks it should have a more important role inside the kingdom, and things are not going well. wrote it is the equivalent of waking up to find warren buffett and the heads of cbs, nbc, and abc have been arrested. it has all the appearances of a coup d'etat. saudi arabia is rapidly becoming another country. the kingdom has never been this unstable. this is not over by a long shot. >> not over. this is really the beginning. the question is can the young crown prince sustain the momentum that began this summer with ousting his predecessor, then in september, arresting prominent lyrics, intellectuals, and now this massive sweep within -- prominent clerics, intellectuals, and now this massive sweep within the royal families. charlie cole and the national guard --
10:17 pm
charlie: the national guard has been led by the of do love family, the king who died a year or two ago. for years, that was the power base. and all of a sudden, they replaced the national guard. >> the national guard in saudi arabia is the most effective military branch, best trained. it has always had the primary role of protecting the royal family. by ousting him and putting in crown princethe prono has basically taken over the security forces, so it would be hard for anyone to challenge him. this is in many ways the less shocking. -- the most shocking. charlie: thank you so much. we will be right back. stay with us.
10:18 pm
10:19 pm
10:20 pm
charlie: his 2016 film became the highest grossing film in new zealand history, despite a budget of $2.5 million. his new film, "thor: ragnarok." in the new film, the norse god teams up with hulk to team up
10:21 pm
-- to save his planet from the evil sister. the writers at rolling stone say this may be the most fun you have any marvel movie. for that reason, here is the trailer. ♪ >> so much has happened since i last saw you. i lost my hammer, yesterday, so that is still pretty fresh. then i went on a journey of self-discovery. where i met you. [roaring] ♪ thor: you have no idea. the goddess of death has invaded. >> 08, i have missed this. oh, i have missed this.
10:22 pm
>> you and i are going to fight. >> it does not sound right. thor: it is true. hela: asgard is dead. it will be born in my image. i thought you would be glad to see me. thor: you need to stop what you do stop here and now. prevent the end of everything. i am putting together a team. like the old days. >> surprise. this will be such fun. thor: hello. >> he is a fighter. hela: here we go. i am not a queen or a monster. i am the goddess of death.
10:23 pm
what were you the god of, again? thor: we are the same, you and i. just a couple of hotheaded fools. >> yes, same. -- hulk like fire. thor like water. hulk like raging fire, smoldering fire. charlie: i am pleased to have taika waititi at this table. taika: thank you for having me. charlie: who is the audience for this? taika: me, my friends, my mom. charlie: boys, girls, is it young? taika: i feel it is for everyone. when i was going to make this
10:24 pm
film a friend of mine said, you are like a six-year-old. from what i gather, it was about a bunch of six-year-olds, you could give them $180 million to of six-year-olds what they want in a movie and then gave me $180 million to make it. it is fun, audiences everywhere smile. which is not something i see often anymore, coming out of the cinema smiling. it is an escape. i feel we need a bit of escape at the moment. i am happy to provide it. charlie: good for you. what is the genius of all these marvel comic characters? is it just that? these people are larger-than-life and they take you to another world, and therefore coming to escape from whatever it is that might be troubling you? taika: yes, but i also think they are very relatable. thor is essentially a rich kid
10:25 pm
from outer space that just wants to be loved. the hulk, has a bipolar disorder he cannot control. i love that the theme of hulk is the age-old idea of wrestling with two things. as we look at every character, they probably dressed ridiculously, but there is something relatable. charlie: had you always wanted to make one of these films? taika: no, but it was never my dream to be a filmmaker. my background was painting and photography and visual arts, graphics. i fell into this after making short films, and they did very well. i was encouraged, more than anything. charlie: what happened to the art? taika: i got to address that in a rectangle.
10:26 pm
now i can satisfy that side of myself, compositionally, in the frame. charlie: do live in new zealand? taika: i live between new zealand and los angeles. los angeles is my favorite city in america. new zealand is a suburb of australia. [laughter] a traitorous comment, that was. charlie: when you started to direct films, did you feel this contributed? you had a visual acuity, a sense of color? taika: yes, i do feel that. it has been a long time, growing up in theater and writing plays, directing plays for myself and with friends. i think being in different bands
10:27 pm
and playing music and performing, all of those various things were training me for this thing, which is a combination of all those things. charlie: do have a certain type of film you want to get to, now that you were on this success track? you now have the freedom to do anything you want to do. taika: yeah, pretty much. i would like to go back and do some of my smaller films. charlie: meaning what? scripts you never made? taika: i quite enjoyed my films. i would like to come back and do some more of these hollywood things. it is pretty fun, a fun experience. you call theseo
10:28 pm
films other than blockbusters? taika: toy commercials. [laughter] taika: it is a great story, this bombastic world. it's an adventure. we have taken all the crayons, and let out every color imaginable. charlie: and with $180 million, i mean, you can pretty much say, if we need this, we can do this. taika: and sometimes that is not enough. i don't think you ever have enough money on any of these films. whether it is $3 million or $200 million. let me hear you out on this. if you had not $180 million but $300 million, this would've been a 2x better film? taika: i do not know. maybe not.
10:29 pm
maybe too much money spoils it. that's an alternative idea. >> you ask most directors, they do not know the budget. the thing you're always struggling for and the thing you always want is more time. there is never enough time to shoot these films. we shot for 85 days. most of my films were shot in 25 days. 85 days, and still struggling with time. charlie: where is the great joy for you? is it more shooting than anything? taika: i don't enjoy editing, no. stuck in a dark room with one person, much like this. imagine you and i, alone for a year, and no one else. charlie: but you have all the power and you choose. you sit there and you choose. change this, do this. put this song in. that take, not that take. taika: that is pretty much it.
10:30 pm
i really love being on set because i love interacting with a group, i like having a family feel on the set. i love creating a village and being the master of that village. charlie: there you go, power. taika: it is very complex. it is not enough to just control one person in a dark room, control many people in many environments. [laughter] charlie: that is what you should make, your biography. [laughter] charlie: what is the state of the new zealand film industry today? taika: i think it is doing quite well. we got a thriving industry for our population. we make about, i don't know, maybe eight films a year on average. i would say two of those are pretty good.
10:31 pm
the same ratio as the rest of the world. 20% is all right and the rest is --. charlie: crap. taika: the rest is crap. that is it, you look at hollywood, what is made. you have to get to the good stuff. charlie: is it all about scripts, too? taika: it is. charlie: because if you have a good script, you can fix the rest of the stuff? taika: yeah. charlie: you can find the actors. taika: everyone is drawn to a good script. i remember being in hollywood in finding these scripts, this is an amazing script. saying to my agent, i'd love to do this film. can i take a meeting on it? yeah, sure, you are number 25 on the list. charlie: to take a meeting. taika: so actors and directors, they know when it is a good script. they want to do it. you don't stumble across -- drawn to the flame.
10:32 pm
charlie: when you take a meeting, you try to convince them, whoever owns the property or studio, who will finance it, i have the best idea and i can bring together the highest convergence of talent and creativity? taika: in this film, there was not a story when i went in to pitch. i was not pitching an idea so much. i want pitching on tone. charlie: give me a pitch. taika: there was no pitch. i cobbled together images from different films and put them to music, just a show, it could be like this. but there is no story. i think the pitching process is really, you suss each other out and see if you could work together for two years. this is the pitch and i think this pitch is going well, charlie, because i like you and we could be mates. we could make something. i could hang out with you for a few years. charlie: look at the actors you have your, chris hemsworth, tom
10:33 pm
hiddleston. for god's sake. you got them all here. let's take a look at this. here is a scene between those two, meeting their sister, cate blanchett. my god. you couldn't miss with this. ou could not have made a bad movie. you couldn't screw this up. here it is. roll the tape. thor: thor, son of odin. hela: really, you do not look like him. thor: perhaps we could come to an arrangement. hela: you sound like him. kneel. loki: beg your pardon? hela: kneel. before your queen. thor: i do not think so.
10:34 pm
this is not possible. hela: darling, you have no idea hat is possible. harlie: all right. [laughter] taika: i forgot that was in the movie. charlie: that was a pretty good scene, wasn't it? taika: it was different. there are better scenes. she's good. charlie: oh, boy, is she good. she has been here many times. can you feel her presence in the chair? you do know what movies you are going to make next? taika: yeah. one of the things i am doing is a stop motion. i'm doing that. scripts i'd like to do in europe. maybe come back and make one of these studio films. charlie: maybe do something on broadway? taika: yeah.
10:35 pm
do something on broadway. off, off, off, off. charlie: congratulations. come back anytime. pleasure. back in a moment. stay with us. ♪
10:36 pm
10:37 pm
charlie: jeremiah tower's peers consider him one of the most influential chefs. he pioneered american cuisine
10:38 pm
at the chez planisse. he went on to found his own restaurant, stars, which propelled him into the public as the world's first celebrity chef. a new documentary "jeremiah tower: the last magnificent ," examines his life and industry. here is a look. >> jeremiah tower change the world. >> he was the father of american cuisine. >> one of the major names in this country. >> he was just sexy. >> they were like wow. >> jeremiah defined what the modern american restaurant ould be. >> jeremiah tower, sunday, november 12 on cnn. charlie: anthony bourdain, the executive producer, and jeremiah tower himself, welcome. great to have you at the table. great to have you back, sir. what you want to make this film? anthony: i was aware of
10:39 pm
jeremiah by reputation. i had been cooking food that was either a direct ripoff of his or heavily influenced by him, for years without knowing it. it was his book "california dish," his memoir, that left me angry. you know, in the book there is a clear case made for his true importance to what we call the american food revolution. and the fact that he appeared to have been wittingly written out of history made me press my justice button, made me angry. and was the impetus for this film. as the project progressed, i started to take a bigger view. it's also a great character story. it was initially i felt jeremiah, this great chef and innovator and artist who changed the entire industry, the way we eat in america now, that he hadn't been adequately credited for his accomplishments.
10:40 pm
just made me angry. charlie: was that because he did not get all the credit he deserved for shaping you? anthony: yes, that is true. but he wasn't around. suddenly he wasn't around anymore. history is written by the victors. it was easy for lazy journalist s to have access to the people that were still around and it was not so easy to have access -- charlie: he was in mexico. anthony: so he was knowingly written out. people knew better, they were there. charlie: what happened? chez panisse, then mexico? jeremiah: i went to new york nd did a couple cookbooks, i did some pbs shows. 9/11, there was the earthquake and terrorists, i thought i had better go someplace where there are no hurricanes or earthquakes or terrorists. so i went to mexico, to the beach. charlie: and stayed for? jeremiah: a long time, on and off.
10:41 pm
part of it was, i thought to myself, at one point "time" magazine said i had more publicity than meryl streep. a complete exaggeration. but i thought, what is the next act? i did not want to stick around. it wasn't -- i wanted to be alone. i wanted to be left alone. as greta garbo said, truly left alone. charlie: you had had enough of that for the moment? eremiah: for the moment. i was 250, 300 people a day for 25, 30 years, my mouth was stuck in a frozen smile. charlie: but in your own words, what did you create beyond the cuisine? jeremiah: it was the lifestyle you can have at a restaurant. i saw once when i walked into a brasserie in paris, two thin beautiful mod of-type women with an enormous shellfish platter, four stories high, and they were eating when i walked
10:42 pm
by they were eating crab out of the claws with their red enamel long finger nails, sort of sucking on their finger nails on the crab just like that and restaurant want a just like that. when it left the restaurant, they were still there, digging into all that. i thought, that is sexy, beautiful, powerful. i could not wait to open a restaurant just like that. anthony: that mix of the divine and the disgraceful all in one place was also a new thing. an open kitchen, a restaurant where one walked in, wanting to see the chef. before that, the last person you wanted to see, much less hear an opinion from was the chef. stars insisted on it. charlie: it was also an attitude about life? eremiah: absolutely. lucious bebe who was the last magnificent -- i mean, the man who invented cafe society. i am not sure what café society
10:43 pm
is, but i read about it a lot. he was the last one to have a private car as jim says in the documentary. that he was expelled from harvard and yale for showing up drunk to the first class of the morning in a top hat and tails. he was just a man who said -- actually, my favorite thing from lucious is when he said, everything's sort of all right with the world when you have been out on the town when you can have a hot bird and a cold bottle. that kind of sums it up. charlie: a hot bird and a cold ottle. you said we will not see the likes of this guy again. do you think something has changed? anthony: jeremiah changed it. to be the first celebrity chef, you can't be the first celebrity chef again. it's been done. the restaurant business, in many ways, has become -- almost every restaurant you walk into
10:44 pm
has become a reflection of work pioneered by jeremiah. the menus he wrote were incredibly influential, attributing -- attributing ingredients proudly to american sources by names, american wines, american products. this was new. to have that kind of tectonic effect on a culture -- how many jim hendrixes or chuck berrys an you have? jeremiah: that touches my heart. charlie: anybody's heart. but you were born to class and travel. jeremiah: right. charlie: you understood a good life. jeremiah: i was born with a passport. because of my parents traveling, they took me a long, which was wonderful. charlie: so you got to know all the good places. jeremiah: absolutely. from a very early age starting at 4 or 5 years old in sidney.
10:45 pm
charlie: what is the relationship? jeremiah: i went to the 40th anniversary, we sat in the middle of the dining room, at a little table, which he of course carefully staged but it was fun. a great evening. so she -- lydia, the director, asked her to come a couple of times to be in the film and they set up a time to film it mind at the ed her last moment. charlie: do you know why? jeremiah: no, i do not. anthony: it is an emotional issue. she feel strongly about jeremiah. i will not speak for. but i know it was an emotional conversation trying to get her to the film, which we wanted badly to happen. it is not an anti-alice waters film. charlie: and i didn't want to suggest it but she got the credit that you say partially deserve. anthony: true. charlie: coming back to new york, you surprised people. anthony: oh, god.
10:46 pm
charlie: is that right? anthony: we finished the film. we opened "the new york times" and there's jeremiah doing this outrageous, high profile thing that changes the entire trajectory of the story. and lydia, the director of the film, called me up and says, what do we do? we have to shoot for another year. my immediate comment is, no, you won't. it will be over in a month. she really thought they would have to shoot for another month -- that this could possibly work. i knew right away. charlie: why do you know right way? anthony: i had friends that went to the taff ron -- taff , friends ch -- tavern
10:47 pm
well familiar with the place. i am a cynical guy who has been in the business long time. charlie: a recipe for disaster? anthony: jeremiah, what i knew about him, is all the fabulousness and glamour. whatever you say about tavern on the green, it is never going to be that. if you want to bring your grandmother out for her birthday, you go there. none of your friends will see you. charlie: you are a smart guy. why didn't you know this? jeremiah: i have a fatal attraction for the slim chance. charlie: fatal attraction for the slim chance. jeremiah:it was a dangerous adventure. i was very often stupid enough to step up and take a swing at it. charlie: you now go around the world making speeches and talking about life and class and what turns you on. do you still -- if somebody came around and said, do i have an idea, do i have a place, do i have the perfect situation, are you all ears? jeremiah: yes, especially if it is on the amalfi coast with mario batali. sorry that bring that up again.
10:48 pm
it's so funny, a year ago, people kept asking me, what next, what next? finally, i ran out of answers. i said, the amalfi coast with mario batali. of course, somebody called him immediately and he said, yes, of course. completely fictitious. the word i am looking for. charlie: but you would do that, go to the amalfi coast and open a restaurant that was uniquely yours and basically say, i have been born to do this one last great place? jeremiah: i think everybody should look for a last act. i am 75 in a few days. by definition it's the last act. there is a little bar on the beach in phukut. i was sitting there last year and said, it was a little bar, this big. good sound system, great booze,
10:49 pm
and sand. i said, don't you have an umbrella? some guy comes out of the jungle, he cut down a banana tree and sticks it in the sand and said, this is your umbrella. that was my second moment. i said, i have to have a restaurant like this. a beach bar, i might do. he perfect ingredients, simply done, good music and a banana tree for sure. charlie: what is the attraction between them two of you? anthony: initially, admiration. but as i got to know jeremiah's story -- you know, we're talking about a -- the story of so many important celebrity chefs, the story have been -- of the neglected or abused child. however jeremiah chooses to describe his childhood, moving plaza, n liner to the he was alone. left completely alone, to his
10:50 pm
only friends, waiters, room service waiters, cooks and hotel staff. which i theorize is part of his fetishization of the beautiful appointments and flatware and the things that make that life attractive. he is a fascinating character. it is an incredible story, a fascinating character. and a wronged artist. these are things that appeal very strongly to me. [indiscernible] anthony: a charming and endlessly interesting person to be around. jeremiah: can you imagine worse people to bring up a child than hotel and restaurant staff? [laughter] jeremiah: you do not have to answer that. i admire tony because the intelligence is massive. is courage is massive.
10:51 pm
and he can say things extemporaneously. he can say things, like that, which wow me completely. a blogger came out and stepped up to us a few months ago and said, tony, what is the best eating in the world? where should i go? tony said, go to tokyo and drop acid. we got in the car. i said, i have to learn how to do that. i admire him tremendously. you are a great man. charlie: there is also integrity. jeremiah: absolutely. anthony: i am really embarrassed now. jeremiah: when i saw the ad for the new show in puerto rico, i thought, that man is unbelievable. how could he get the puerto -- to puerto rico after the hurricane and do a show and get it edited and on the air? anthony: well, right before the hurricane. charlie: it is really incredible, you mentioned, jose andreas have done down there.
10:52 pm
it was devastated, is devastated, still without power in most of the country. anthony: he went straight there, he had no support staff, no plan, he had no organization logistical lodge -- framework. he just went down and figured, i will put hands on whatever food is there in whatever condition it is and i will turn it into a hot cooked meal and distribute it as widely as i can. it grew quickly to the point where he served first one million, then 2 million. he has fed more hot meals than fema in this entirely private enterprise. it is an extraordinary thing and it all comes from the heart. charlie: i want to show a couple things, let's go to number three. third clip, if i may. this is you talking with others about the return to the profession. here it is. >> here is a guy who has been basically out of the profession as a working chef for 15 years.
10:53 pm
never operated a restaurant in new york city. just seemed incredible to me. it is something you would see in a movie but never happen in real life. >> yet, here he is, finally coming to new york. i think you have to be excited. >> my hope is that it will be a home run. do i think it will happen? i think there is a chance it will. >> stars like to go underground. it wasn't there -- i don't know how long. not many years. then he disappeared without a trace. there is clearly unfinished business. >> that quote from proust, work while you still have the light. i wanted to see if my light was still on. charlie: work while you still have the light. jeremiah: proust laying in bed, writing. charlie: and he wanted to see -- jeremiah: i wanted to see if my light was still on. charlie: but you still believe it is on? jeremiah: yes, but you have to test yourself occasionally.
10:54 pm
where is the -- what is the fun lying in bed and must you are writing the world's best novel? charlie: all the things we said about you, white is -- why this was interesting with you, isn't there something within you that wants to see, one which you would be involved in, one masterful effort for a great final chapter? anthony: i do not need that, i honestly do not. am not hungry for that. charlie: but it is not for you, it is for him. anthony: what i like to see jeremiah do that? charlie: or not? anthony: i would like jeremiah to be happy. but i think it's orson welles syndrome. in a lot of ways. when you have made "citizen kane," you do not have to apologize for anything else in your life. charlie: here would be my argument. it's what he knows, he does, he is. it's not trying to top yourself
10:55 pm
but it is him wanting to paint with new colors, wanting to -- anthony: i like -- as just as a compassionate human being who knows the pain of the restaurant business, the price to be paid for being the best, much less the best again, is too high for anyone to bear, especially in the restaurant business. i would hope for the beach bar osteria on the amalfi coast. i think that would be quite the accomplishment. and a good life. charlie: and a good place to be. where are you now in terms of adventure for the season? anthony: i am about 1/4 of the way through shooting seasons all nearly consecutively. i am between many travels. between -- and uruguay. at the moment. and continuing to produce films, working on a book.
10:56 pm
i'm a person who needs -- charlie: memoir or something else? anthony: essays. charlie: about life, all the places you have been -- this is a locker room question. if suddenly you needed to go away for a year, where would you go? jeremiah: that's a good one. anthony: maybe spain, maybe saint sebastian, in spain. it is a grown-up city, antastic food. centrally low indicated to paris and rome which is nice. that would not be a bad place to be for a year. charlie: thank you for coming. great to see you. nice to see you, jeremiah. jeremiah: thank you. charlie: let me remind audiences, "the last magnificent" will air on cnn, sunday, november 12 at 9:00 a.m. is that your time slot? anthony: yes. jeremiah: he's stepping aside.
10:57 pm
charlie: thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪
10:58 pm
10:59 pm
11:00 pm
issa: i'm alissa parenti in washington, and you are watching "bloomberg technology." let's start with a check of your first word news. president trump joined south korea's president in calling for greater collective pressure on north korea. president trump: as the south korean people know so well, it is time to act with urgency and ith great determination. all nations must implement un security council regulations and cease trade and business entirely with north korea. >> it is election day for some n the u.s. as virginia chooses between democrat ralph


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on