tv Squawk Alley CNBC March 31, 2016 11:00am-12:01pm EDT
>> first up the iphone se and new pro now available in apple stores across the country. josh is outside one of them in palo alto. how is it going. >> as you can see it's pretty quite still here in downtown palo alto and another sign of that expected muted reaction apple stores will be open at their regular times today but we should keep in mind that for apple the se is targeting a different consumer. apple did sell 30 million iphones last year. the hope is they now give some of the people a reason to upgrade and also with the starting price of $399 it could also appeal to more price conscious consumers and there's also the new smaller version of
the ipad protoday. for our audience, for traders, for investors, the ipad is no longer as financially material as it once was. it now makes up 10% of the country's revenue but whenever i talk to tim cook he remains confident in the product and the ipad and does believe they'll continue taking more and more share in the work place. look at apple stock. they believe it could provide additional support in the slower june quarter. looking ahead, the next would be the iphone 7 in the fall. and putting together their wish list for that device. stronger battery life and faster charging. back to you. >> thank you so much. we'll wait and see what happens when that actually opens but we appreciate the report this morning. steady treatment of am news. nbc news reporng the fbi
helped to unlock an iphone and ipod in a arkansas murder case. according to bob wright jack welch passed on buying apple for just $2 billion back in 1996. here's what he told squawk box. >> apple came to us, we had had quarterly meetings and he wanted the opportunity to give his pitch. a lot of people would do that. he gave a pitch in 1996 and he broke down during the presentation. he was telling us that the stock is killing him. the investors are on his back and he can't get this thing rolling. the consensus in the room was we can't do anything with this. this is way outside of our game. we wer not a silicon valley company or orientation at that point and there was no supporters at all but we all felt terrible that we couldn't
jump in here. >> who didn't have the chance to buy apple 20 years ago? and that was a great insight. the turn around of apple is a shockingly rare event and i would argue completely unpredictable at the time. before steve got there and before all the new products. they made a good decision. >> it wasn't apple. steve jobs wasn't there. >> so many things had to happen. steve jobs had to come back and introduce the programming that braug os 10 and cut back the product strategy dramatically. allow them to refocus. arm technologies had the huge surge which helped fund apple's research and development that lead to the ipod and iphone and
so on and if ge had bought it it would have been something completely different. >> that's a pretty stunning chart we should mention here over the last ten years. ge is down 8%. apple is up more than 1,000%. of course apple wasn't flat lined by the financial crisis but but this has become a product we're familiar with and it's facing it's own cannibalization of its own products. can it rejuvenate the ipad? >> that's the main thing is the larger iphone and the good news for apple is if you're going to sell one of the two, they're in great shape selling a super expensive big iphone because they make a huge amount of money there too but the idea that there's this massive untapped market for tablets, we haven't discovered it yet. the apps aren't there yet, obviously. >> can we go to the fbi thing for one second because i'm fascinated that now they're
opening up other phones which is exactly what steve jobs said. not steve jobs tim cook. the argument is the slippery slope has begun. having said that it's now completely out of their control. >> a lot of interesting things. first fbi is thumbing it's nose at apple. apple is we're going to make it so nobody can get in and the fbi is saying we don't need your help. we got in. secondly this is a very good reminder of why it might be helpful for society to allow a way to get into these phones. this is a murder investigation. the fbi or police think there's useful data on the phone. it would be nice to get at it. this is another side of it. >> i don't know about this thumbing the nose at apple. >> i don't know if apple is happy they're able to break into
the phone but the main issue for them was don't try to force us to make software that we don't want to make. if the best intelligence agencies in the world can figure out a way into an iphone to solve a crime. good for them. wait for the next os release and see if you can get into that. >> exactly. they'll one up it. >> but that's worse. >> now it's on apple to make it more secure if that's how they feel about it. we should move on though. a new report by citi says an uber moment for banks is coming and more than a million people could use their jobs. banks are quickly approaching the tipping point and could see a 30% reduction in staff over the next decade. we know that silicon valley has been gunning for wall street for a decade at this point. why is now the tipping point. is it? >> we're talking about a long tipping point. it's going to happen slowly. the idea that banks will get more efficient and we can move to mobile banking and things.
do you need the huge retail networks? probably not. so changes overtime make sense and it's a reasonable call. >> i would argue the ramifications are larger when it comes to employment. think about new york city. it's like starbucks now. there's a bank on every corner. if all the braings shutdown what happens to the real estate price. you can see a real ripple effect. >> yes, but this is what the economy does but appreciate what's about to happen here. >> absolutely. the economy will adjust to that. the economy naturally adjusts to this. obviously it's horrible if your job is he little nated but the economy will employ and ultimately take care of the space issue. >> i'm wondering if there are any cautionary tales in the valley that the banks with these cumbersome pieces of real
estate, legacy architecture and hundreds of thousands of employees should look to, hp maybe? >> oh gosh. this is continuing to happen in technology as well, there's a big looming job loss in it from the cloud. you have them going around saying we want you to switch to the cloud and customers are saying how can we afford this? they're going to have to cut people currently keeping up their it infrastructure and they have not done that in a massive way yet and when that starts to happen over the next year or two we're going to see massive lay offs there but the irony here in banking is people need -- >> those are jobs replaced by people working for the cloud companies. >> they're being replaced by software. it's about taking the people out of it. you don't need somebody to maintain the server because the server is being maintained by amazon and they know how to do it with software. people need more help with their money than they ever needed so we still need people. smart people in finance in
banking but maybe not doing the branch job they used to do. >> you're more tech savvy than the average person but just before we leave this topic we're talking about jobs being replaced by machines. they know that's largely happening on lending and on the consumer and payments side. they say there's basically very little capital going after insurance, investment banking and working with corporations. if you're working at one of these banks where do you feel you're safe? >> advice. people are always going to need that and new services. the thing that replaced farming and manufacturing in the economy is services. new services will evolve. these huge campuses of old dying silicon valley companies have now been occupied by facebook. >> he's going to send you an
e-mail and tell you to stay in the market. >> and then you'll find something else to do with your time. that's how society and progress and the invisible hand works and it works. all you have to do is step back and look at the transformation of this economy over hundreds of years. >> it's all happening as washington wants to regulate the innovation at these banks. >> thank you for having me. >> we do want to check in on the markets on the last day of the first quarter. right now trading roughly flat. the dow is up slightly, the s&p about the same and fit bit shares rallying after it shipped more than a billion blaze devices -- it can't be a billion -- a million blaze devices in the first month i should say of availability. shares still down close to 30% since the ipo. also a nice gain after they upped the price target to $168 a share.
seeing strong customer growth at watson and has more confidence in full year estimates. coming up as election season rolls on, the next battleground this year is going to be on mobile. we'll tell you who stands to benefit. plus, lately movie theaters doing anything they can to compete with streaming. one plan could let you rent same day releases in your home. $50 per movie. we have the details. and sis coecisco's john chamberd the board of a drone company. not as interested in the planes themselves as the software. he'll join us live in a cnbc interview. back in a molt.
this is a week when he had to defend his campaign manager against battery charges on a female reporter and defend himself for ted cruz over their wives and now he has to defend himself on the issue of abortion after this exchange about this exchange with chris matthews. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? yes or no? as a principle. >> the answer is there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the women. >> yes. there has to be some form.
>> how much trouble is he in in the wake of this? he has taken back these remarks saying only the abortion provider would face punishment and not the woman herself. we have a new poll out in the state of wisconsin. ted cruz has got a 10% lead over donald trump. that's not what donald trump wants to hear. the new york primary there's a new poll out today showing donald trump ahead by 36 points over ted cruz so whether or not this is a bump in the road or the sign of a lasting problem. we don't know yet. we'll have to see the voters let us sort it out, john. >> thank you for that. great to see you again. mobile devices playing a big role in this year's election but the question is how much. joining us from miami . i'm walking down the street seeing people on their iphone
watching by the way, the chris matthews interview with donald trump physically on the phones but how much do you see in terms of the impact of mobile on this election? >> well, mobile devices are accounting for about 70% of all the time spent on the internet and if you look at certain segments of the population, somewhere around 20% of their time is only spent on mobile devices where in the hispanic segment it's a third of millennial hispanics using their mobile devices to access the internet. so it's important to get information and video is just one of the ways in which people are enjoying content. the other thing that's important is the role social is playing in
this election. facebook on twitter, somewhere and 80% of the time is coming via mobile device and the influence that the social networks are having on voter preferences is pretty astounding. >> how about, programming versus social. you look at trump. he's on twitter every day. he makes news on twitter which then feeds back on television which then creates a video which then gets back on social, versus folks trying to do paid things on twitter or book. is the paid stuff working? >> it's working but what works better is the organic communication. there's a phenomenon on the social network where is people have friends that share the same preferences and the same political believes whaend you get a communication coming in from a trusted friend it has a
pretty persuasive impact on you and that's one of the ways bernie sanders came out of nowhere. this organic immucommunication exploded and made him a viable candidate. donald trump is leveraging social but in a different way. he's so ready to tweet and looks like he is personally tweeting so there's an authentic aspect to it but he's tweeting so often that the mainstream news organizations are picking it up and he's producing a massive amount of content then communicated by television. >> what do we know about what it takes for this digital activity to translate into actual real world action? is it more likely to have an impact on mobilizing people to go out and canvas door to door? to bring out the vote and get people registered or is it more
likely to result in people changing their opinions about certain candidates? >> i think it's much more about the former. i think it is certainly helping bring it out and mobilize people et cetera, et cetera but probably given the phenomenon it's likely reinforcing one's already held believes. but then you have, you know, you that social impact and then it's being amply identifiified by te. what's going on today is astounding. for example, we now have 40 million television set top boxes that are providing us continuous measurement of audiences and the campaigns are integrating all of that information with voter registration data and their own data and it's amazing. >> co-founder, of comscore.
welcome back. movie theater stocks all downgrade on concerns about tough comparisons for the sector. julia joins us with a sneak peek at the technology that aims to fight the rise of home entertainment alternatives. julia. >> well, take a look. this three screen panoramic theater with surround sound is called the escape and it launches here tomorrow in downtown los angeles at this theater. unveiling new laser projectors and immersive peekers. theaters are grahdealing with t fact that the number of tickets
declined 7%. that's thanks to the explosion of premium content available at home and that threat will only continue to grow. sean parker is working on screening room to allow people to watch movies at home the day they debut in theaters. plus nearly half of all u.s. homes are projected to own a 4-k tv by 2020. >> we need to raise the bar. we need to do something that is so compelling that people put down the ipad and leave the couch and go to the cinema. this is why we created barko escape. >> this new theater joined thekx theater already here. the seats move and there's wind and smells but more accessible is this triple screen here behind me. it costs twice what it would cost to install a traditional
screen and they're talking to all the theater chains to roll out at a thousand locations over the next 3 to 5 years so the more your living room feels like a movie theater, the more your movie theater is going to become high-tech. back to you. >> thank you, julia. always looking for excuses to get out of the house. joining the board of a technology company. dropping the ceo title at sis coe. he's going to join us in an interview when we come back. became a stay over. and a parade rained on the sales team's parade. and they still made the meeting, without actually going to the meeting. before any of this, cdw orchestrated a mobility solution, using the hp elite x2 1012 with intel core m vpro processors. mobility by hp.
>> four turkish police officers were killed and 20 people wounded when an explosion hit a passing police vehicle in a southeastern turkish city. the blast hit here a bus station in the city which is the largest in the kurdish southeast. several ambulances were rushed to the scene. authorities searching a wooded residential area close to the french border amid reports that the action was related to the french suspect. the eiffel tower in paris closed due to a strike over government reforms which would relax the 35
hour work week and other rules. there was not enough staff to keep the tower open. and severe weather rolled through eastern oklahoma wednesday evening. these pictures are from the tulsa area where a tornado touched down. 7 people were reportedly taken to the hospital with injuries you're up to date. let's get back downtown to kayla. >> thank you so much for that. europe has just closed. let's bring in simon hobbs as we get the movers across europe. >> european markets heading lower as you can see into the end of that quarter. though some of them are off their lows. of course there's a battle in the foreign exchange markets in the wake of the dollar weakness after what yellen told us. you see that the euro is moving higher just on a weekly basis. that's up almost 2% on the euro. we broke above $1.14 but this is what the european central bank does not want to see of course
tomorrow they double down to 80 billion euros a month. the banks are the focus today. particularly the italian banks. they may delay what is a rights issue and ipo for one of the cooperative banks. it's on the hook effectively to guarentee up to $1.7 billion of that transaction and there's some nervousness about how that might be received by the market and therefore a bigger comment on investor appetite for bank shares. particularly bank shares in italy. they're off their lows but still down 3%. weaker banks have also fallen. it's also important to note that it's still going through it's own separate project which is very similar so it may also comment to the relative strength of the balance sheet that important because they don't have a proper government in place so they can't enact budget
reforms. meantime, let's wrap it up for the quarter in europe and you'll see where as the s&p here has recovered into positive territory for the first lee months. the broader market in europe, the stoxx 600 is still down and the banks stoxx index is still down 20% despite the fact of course that you have the ecb come through with the extra mechanisms which boosted the bank shares after march 10th but they headed back down into negative territory as we await of course the double down on qe tomorrow. thank you guys. >> thank you so much. midtown manhattan, john kasich is taking questions on donald trump's come mens. >> you need to be able to get it right the first time. we know about his comments on abortion which put women in a very difficult position and he
has since moved to correct those in one way or another. he talked about the use of nuclear weapons in the middle east and europe. you wonder about his hand or his thumb getting any close to the critical button that presidents are in charge of. number three, he said we should abollish the george anthoneva c and engage in, i guess, more torture which doesn't set well with the people that served our country so honorable. people like john mccain. he called on nato abollished. i happen to believe that nato needs to be strengthened and turned from solely a military
organization into an intelligence and policing organization that can work across boarders to make sure that we can begin to create safe areas in europe forcing people to work together, to gather intelligence and also to learn how to properly police. it's absolutely critical now in a world where we have people intent on just destroying us because of our way of life. believing that somehow that gets them a path to paradise. this morning i had a long conversation with my former colleague who spent a lot of time over in the middle east. particularly working with the kurds and it's based on
destroying us. people with attitudes like this need to be destroyed and we need to find out where they are and we cannot get this done unless we're able to have the effective intelligence gathered all across the globe from people of all faiths because i believe -- >> is that john kasich speaking in new york city addressing comments by donald trump yesterday evening at the msnbc town hall as well as his stance on foreign policy saying the u.s. should strengthen its relationship with nato. this is coming ahead of next week. >> he is saying all very sensible things but i don't think the american public cares. it's almost going over people's heads. the reason that donald trump
resinated with the public is he's talking at a base level. >> what kasich is trying to do is draw a line between these abortion comments that some people found irresponsible to come mens on the use of nuclear weapons and his comments on nato and tie that back into the need to coordinate intelligence. so he's trying to thread the needle here. >> the finger on the button thing is a compelling argument. who really has control of that? and i don't think voters think about that enough. >> indeed. former cisco ceo is a part of this round and now joins the board of directors.
it's great to see both of you. >> thanks for having us. >> first to you, you founded this company five years ago now so you have been at this for awhile and you're focused on software. normally when we talk drones we're looking at the hardware and maybe the images that drones are taking. why did you focus on the hardware system. >> around the time i started the company there were over 700 companies globally building the drones themselves so a lot of investment in the device layer and a lack of enterprise software to tie the pieces together and take these images and turn them into insights that companies could be using so that's been our focus as a
company. >> what lead you to say i want to not only invest but sit on its board. >> the biggest market transition is the internet of things. the result of every company and country in the world. air wear focuses on the robots piece of that and the drone component part of it and oil and gas and the utility sector et cetera. they got really excited but also this young man. he is an amazing yun ceo. he built his team very well and they are at an inflection point that you're talking about drones going from 2.7 million drones a year to 7 million in the next
four years. his team can lead the entire segment of this business. >> what gives you the confidence that now is a time when this is going to happen. you know better than most that government policy and regulation can have an enormous impact on an emerging technology's ability to really take off. is there somewhere else you see the technology accelerating more quickly that convinces you now is the time to put the technology into a company like air wear. >> you know getting market transitions right one to two years before they take off is the whole key. one of the things that i found is they understand the issues around drones.
this is an inflection point and it's going to be five to ten times to date and the segments that relate to operational changes to do innovation, jonathan has his company well. maybe your thoughts on why you started getting involved with those early. >> we're very encouraged by the progress. a couple of years ago there were no companies in the united states allowed to operate drones commercially. today we have over 4,000 granted exemptions to enable commercial operations. 200 of those with large fortune 500 companies and further regulatory barriers with the release of a small rule for unmanned aircraft. >> to the last part of the question john you find france understanding this. they're very progressive in terms of their regulations and also in terms of the digittization thoughts for their countries and their businesses. >> john, talking about policy and regulation, hoping you can
weigh it into the debate around apple and the fbi. you dealt with back door questions around the world before. when you look at that issue, where do you come down? >> on the side of apple. however government has very legitimate issues that they ought to get together and say how do you solve? however you solve it here has to be true for the rest of the world. why jonathan is taking this company around digittization you have to be able to address the same regulations and say how do you address the legitimate needs of government and here's trust and security and privacy. >> is there a sector where you feel the need is so dyer there might be a fast track with regulators to get this technology implemented at the enterprise level more quickly than we would have otherwise thought? >> the last year surprised me. we have seen a lot of rapid
adoption where all 10 of the companies have section 333 exemptions meaning they have gone through the process to get permission from the faa. we're working with the largest insurance companies in the united states including state farm now and the faa has been very supportive of our limited development that's on going now in the testing that we're doing with them and so this is an entire industry need with a lot of rapid progress and it's no surprise. companies are looking for better access today at a to create better insights but also operational cost savings and enhancing worker safety. >> what was interesting is when i called cios and ceos i was thinking about going on this board with an exciting young leadership team every one of them was aware of the concepts of drones and how could it transform segments of their business so they're all trying to innovate and recreate themselves for their future. john, you have done it on a
platform base and outcome base as opposed to individual segments. >> that's really -- >> go ahead. >> we've really found that's what the market needs because the companies that we're working with they don't want to use drones for one application. they want to use it for a lot of different applications including the multirow to vehicles but also fixed wing aircraft. >> i'm curious about your conversation with other ceos and experience having run cisco which is a highly global business. you joked you're a moderate republican which is an endangered species and we're hearing this rhetoric around huge tariffs on chinese exports and some tax policies being thrown around and i'm just wondering how you read the policies that you have seen so far and whether they worry you or there's some feasibility in there. >> two comments to that. first i'm a john kasich fan.
i thought he was articulate and he would make an excellent president. to the second part of your question, what is missing, republicans and democrat, every country in the world is talking about a digittization policy. that is true when you're with prime minister modi where i was two weeks ago. this is missing entirely from the u.s. debate so we have to think about how we reskill america and how we raise the incomes of our model class like during the 90s. this is where i did one of my first interviews over 0 years ago before i became the ceo. it's very good with you with your company and i'd love to see you hit those growth rates as well. >> thank you. >> and jonathan, sitting there
next to john chambers is also not bad. but i want to ask you, also in the news is techs reaction. tech's reaction to this north carolina law that would basically overrule local antidiscrimination ordinances. what is your take on tech's reaction to that and on what seems to me to be an increasing amount of social activism in ces's? >> we do not tolerate discrimination in any format. as an individual i was disappointed in the north carolina position on this and i'd like to see them revisit that and get it changed. >> all right. very much appreciate you being here with us on squawk alley. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, john. good to see you again.
thank you and andrew. thank you. >> yes, thanks to both of you. meanwhile a quite rally afoot in the markets now. let's get to rick and the santelli exchange. >> thank you, kayla. indeed as i always do i like to hn to all the great interviews and i walk away with the notion that mr. chambers is pointing outside the country, a big finger saying europe is doing it better. they're all doing it better. helping train for better employees with all the skills needed for the 21st century's economy but if that's true why is our economy still doing better than their economies? i'm sorry doesn't hold water. we can't control outcomes and make statements like governments need to make sure people are better suited to do certain jobs. if it's governments job to do
that then you shouldn't look toward europe. a profit motive and successful employee have to pull themselves up by the boot straps. you can't legislate that stuff. you can legislate incentives to help businesses see the light for sure which leads into my talk today. massaging the messengers. their pillars. what do they entail? maximum employment? they want the best level of employment and stable prices. my definition of stability is exactly what price versus been doing. they're running less than they would like. but something else has changed they complete various surveys with regard to jobs. kansas city fed like the atlanta fed do things very helpful and if we look at atlanta, gdp now it's .6 so i'd like somebody to
say why it wasn't so great. it doesn't hold water to begin with. but the surveys are squishy. you reconstitute them. the unploiemployment rate is dropping. if that's the key to our policy and it's not real let's reconstitute it to find something that shows a more real view and that unemployment rate is about a percent higher than our unemployment rate. gdp and employment. conflicting messages. why is gdp weak but jobs are good? none of it holds water but what are we doing? instead of tackling the problems
we're changing the way we look at the data and the way we constitute the data. just doesn't make sense. john forte back to you. >> thanks, rick. always a clear look at the data. up next, it's been six months since the use of chip credit card readers became a must for retailers. not only has engagement grown, companies are testing a new thing called selfie pay. details after this break.
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and a look at the halftime portfolio. what's working, what isn't and what our experts are doing now. >> it's been about six months since the start of the emv chip card transition. we want to check in on how the change is adopted by merchants and consumers. craig is the president of north america markets for mastercard and he is here with us this morning about 67% today. who is that 33%?
still holding out. >> i don't know that i classify them as hold outs. this is a complicated and significant transition for our market in the u.s. it's a large market and sophisticated market and a lot of work that needs to take place by parties across the system in order to effect this upgrade of our payment system. everybody is working through it and we're encouraged by the progress in the last six months. >> in the last six months all of us have been at a store where you have been waiting in line and the check out agent has been trying to explain to the customer how to use the chip terminal and you're looking at your watch and takes a long time. i was at a store the other day where they said why don't you just swipe it. how high is the hurdle still for consumers? >> there's a learning curve for sure and we as consumers across the country are going through that but it's a learning curve with an important underpinning
and it's about making the payment system safer for everybody involved. >> can i ask a selfish question? put ago side the issue of learning how to do it, it takes longer. it legitimately takes longer and i just wonder in the great age of efficiency and productive whether there's a two point or three point or 4.0 version of this where you will put it in and take it out and that will be that. >> that's a fair question and i get that question a lot. there's an element of that i really believe that's an matter of perception. there's a change in behavior. if you think about a swipe transaction you swipe the card while it's processing you're putting the card back in your wallet or in your pocket and purse and starting to gather your things. with the chip transaction you stair at the terminal and wait for it to say now remove your card. you're not parallel processing. it feels longer.
there's instances where it does take longer. there's variation in that but i think it will improve overtime as the software gets tightened up but your question about technology is a good one. there's different ways to define what constitutes better. safer is better. >> we haven't gotten to the selfie pay thing yet but i want to ask is this going to push us to this? this is faster by far than both other methods but still sometimes there's retailers that don't allow you even if they have an nfc terminal to pay with the method you want but this is just as secure, is it not? >> it is if it's a transaction with tokenization and this is part of a multifaceted effort to secure our payment system our
objective is to enable choice for the consumer. we want it to be safe for them. >> you guys are trying to innovate too. the next time you come in, craig, we want to demo that. >> it's such a conversation we had. >> i'd love to. we're excited about that. another leg in the safety story. >> always a pleasure. >> coming up, peel are camping out at tesla stores for a car that won't start production until late next year. more on that in just a moment. xerox predictive analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. hello mr. kent. can i rebook your flight? i'm here! customer care can work better. with xerox. wait i'm here! mr. kent? (gasp) shark diving! xerox personalized employee portals help companies
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this or the car and they're going for the car. >> they have more money than they know what to do with. >> yeah. we'll keep an eye on that happening later tonight. andrew thanks as always. >> thank you for havin me. >> let's send it over to noon on the east coast. >> welcome to the halftime report. why the markets might not be done rallying as a crazy quarter comes to a close. with us for the hour today, joe and josh and pete. what a three months it's been for stocks now on track for a 1% gain after falling nearly 10% in the middle of february. the question now, should you stay with the names that have worked or play for a rebound in the ones that have lagged? and that debate begins now. josh brown, you think you should play the lager