tv Squawk Box CNBC April 5, 2016 6:00am-9:01am EDT
"squawk box" begins right now. live from new york, where business never sleeps, this is "squawk box." good morning, everyone. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. check out the u.s. equity futures this morning. you are looking at triple-digit losses. the dow futures down by 137 points. s&p futures down by 20. the nasdaq down by 35. this comes after the markets ended at about their lowest levels of the day yesterday. nothing major for the dow. only down by about 56 points. again, you can see how this is carrying into today. overnight in asia, the nikkei was down sharply as a stronger yen hit japanese exporters once again. china bucking the trend as stocks close near a three-month high. stocks in europe right now also under some pressure. you can see that the dax at this
point is down by almost 2.5%. the ftse is down by 1.5%. if you look at the price of oil, which was under quite a bit of pressure yesterday, you can see this morning it's down another 22 cents, sitting below $36. >> let's tell you about some of the big stories we're watching today. perhaps the biggest right now is this one. shares of allergan are plunging after the treasury and irs announced new rules to curb tax inversion. the two companies releasing a statement saying, quote, we are conducting a review of the actions. prior to completing the review, we won't speculate on any potential impact. we should say that allergan is one of the largest holdings of some of the hedge fund community. it's considered a top-ten holding of about 80 hedge funds right now. so you might see a big impact in that stock this morning. >> the stock was down by about
21%. >> i'm saying it may even be worse. some of the people we know. >> we're checking the potential impact. it's down 60 points. there's not a potential impact. there's the impact right there. >> the impact has happened. >> you're waiting for the real open? >> i'm waiting for the real open. >> that's pretty close. >> a lot of lawyers think they've overstepped here. >> the treasury department. >> and if you actually went to court, you might win. but it's a three, four-year process. so this may have stopped it dead in its tracks. let's tell you about other news. tesla giving back some of its gains, saying it didn't meet its first quarter sales goals, pointing in part to a part shortage that impacted production of its model x suv. they promised not to make the same mistake with its coming
model 3 vehicle. and new details this morning into the drama at pimco leading up to the departure of bill gross. a legal filing arguing that gross' abusive conduct and an effort to, quote, sabotage colleagues he saw as disloyal, gave them grounds to fire him. the money management firm says it has good reason not to pay gross any more of the $200 million of damages. last night's national championship game came down to two shots. villanova saw a six-point lead slip away down the stretch. down by three, north carolina's marcus page hit an incredible off-balance three pointer to be tie the game at 74-74 with 4.7 seconds left in the game. moments later, chris jenkins of villanova delivered in the clutch, draining a three pointer as time ran out. the wildcats stormed to the
court to celebrate an improbable 77-74 victory. this was the reaction of the villanova fans inside the school's watch party on campus. that's so exciting for them. it was a great year all the way through. i was on the losing end of a couple three pointers like that with wisconsin. the last team to beat villanova was xavier. >> this is why college basketball is so amazing. >> that's why the ratings are so amazing. north carolina wasn't supposed to be able to shoot three pointers. they were both like -- wasn't 70%, but maybe villanova was 58% for three pointers. north carolina was even higher than that. >> just the crowd's reaction. >> i saw some people watching. depending on where you can watch it, you could watch pro-unc announcers or pro-villanova. welch got stuck on the pro-unc. what's going on?
could we have a little objectivity. somebody tweeted, you can switch the channel. but they have that one guy, rafferty. i can do an imitation. he does this weird voice every time. that's his only schtick. >> it works. >> well, i don't know it works. we're going to have ariana on later talking about sleep and how important is sleep is. >> and that stupid 9:19 p.m. start. >> that's impossible for us. if we violate these sleep rules, you get some terminal disease, you can't think, you get fat. even ceos that brag about getting four, five hours of sleep, they're -- >> lying. >> did you see the craig sager interview? you know who i'm talking about? >> i know who he is. >> he's battling cancer. that was something i was watching this morning.
>> it came back for craig. >> it did. but they did a very nice interview on the sideline yesterday. jordan was at the game. spectacular. >> former villanova -- >> unc. >> you like him, right? >> michael? yes. >> and you like carl malone. >> it's a generational thing, yes. >> i know about that. believe me. here's this news. is this going to be sheryl san diego be-- sandberg. why do they have a hard time replacing people? >> iger has big shoes to fill. for a while, people doubted whether he would be able to fill isner's shoes.
>> what happened to this guy? he was a deal guy, but then he ran the theme parks. he knows what's going on. he's not a big enough thinker? >> he's not a creative guy. >> did you know iger was a creative guy? >> let's get into this. i can give you a lot more inning a second. >> there were doubts about iger. >> set it up. >> let me just read this. disney's coo thomas staggs announcing he's stepping down from the post he had held. he had been considered the guy to take over for ceo bob iger. here now to talk about what happens next at disney, i have to do this one, but you're doing stewart. >> yep. >> but brett harris is a research analyst. nobody had any inkling or wind of this until it happened.
>> no. >> extremely young man. exceptionally young man. 55, staggs. so he had plenty of time. >> fair to say he had been heir apparent for a long time. big surprise he's given the coo position and 12 months, 18 months later -- >> and this isn't iger that doesn't like the idea. this is the board. or is it iger? >> apparently. >> and iger is now extending the search. that's one of the reports. >> did iger want to stay longer? >> i'm not sure we know about that piece of it. i think iger supported staggs, however i think there were people on the board who were never comfortable with him. there were a number of missteps he made since he got into this job. the theme park thing.
he's a very complicated guy. so there's a whole group of people there that apparently have not been thrilled. back to you, you're the professional. >> i was going to say, look, you said it in your opening remarks, that i think they might be concerned he's a finance guy. he was cfo for ten years. sure, he ran the parks. they wanted somebody with, as you said, maybe a little bit more vision, perhaps a better ability to navigate -- >> who qualifies for a role like that? it's pretty difficult if you have not spent time within the company. >> absolutely. that's the next question. well, if you don't want somebody like tom staggs, 26-year veteran, who then? so that's a big question out there. >> who do you like? sandberg gets thrown around. she's on the board, knows the company. you heard peter's name thrown
around here and there. i've heard chase kerry's name. >> chase kerry has been on the beach for a while. i'm sure he'd do a great job. certainly has the experience for it. there are a number of existing ceos today that are at perhaps smaller companies that are highly respected. >> is nbc universal a smaller company? >> no comment. >> that would be a lateral move, wouldn't it? >> certainly a lateral move. >> by i think he'd rather crush disney than go there. >> he does get brought up. >> he does? >> yeah, yeah. >> bite your tongue. he's going to stay. >> as i said, no comment. >> you hear that, sorkin? >> i have heard that name. >> before we just said it? >> yeah. >> were you scared? >> scared.
of you. >> don't be scared of me. he's the guy. no, it would be lateral. i'm sure he loves it here too, right. and he's ceo of nbc universal. comcast is almost a separate -- >> yeah. but there are a lot of -- les moonves, very highly respected. >> you don't think they're going anywhere? >> not yet. but these are names that get tossed around. >> is there anybody else inside disney that you think has a shot? >> well, the two major candidates are off the table. >> former cfo. >> right. and then jay rissoula left when tom was given the coo position. unclear if there's another internal candidate. you have to think, is there really another -- if they had these issues with somebody like tom staggs, would there be anybody else? >> we mentioned before sheryl
sandberg from the board of disney. is that someone you would see stepping into that role? >> certainly a possibility. who knows if she'd want to the leave her current position, which is a pretty great position. >> right. >> all right. we will get more color from a guy who knows a lot about it. >> 7:00 a.m. jim stewart. wrote the book on them. >> not only did he write the book on disney, he actually did write a book on disney. >> yeah, he wrote the book. he wrote a book on disney. >> there you go. >> one of the great sort of business narratives of our time. >> brett, thanks for coming in today. >> thanks for having me. >> let's get another check on the futures this morning. there is some red across the boards this morning. dow futures down by 133 points. the nasdaq off by 36. if you take a look at what's been happening in the treasury
markets, you'll see that yield is still stubbornly below 1.8% at 1.725%. checking out the dollar, you'll see that at least right now the dollar, which was weaker yesterday against the yen, hitting its lowest level since march 18th. this morning, the dollar is down against the yen once again at 110.37. it's up against the euro at 1.1355. and gold prices are up by about $14 today to $1,233.30. >> the other person, jack dorseying tadorsey i could take a third job. he's on the board. >> you're joking, right? >> sort of, yes. >> i like ovitz. >> maybe they'll take the job together. voters in wisconsin hitting the polls today. john harwood joinin joins us th
morning with more. >> reporter: andrew, this is an opportunity today for both the leading candidates behind the front runners to make up ground in the nomination race. they're both behind, ted cruz and bernie sanders. first of all, let's look at the republican side. you can see that donald trump has got a lead of not quite 300 delegates over ted cruz. on the democratic side, hillary clinton, 600 delegates up on bernie sanders. both are expected to lose today, trump and hillary clinton. they've been trailing in polls coming up to now. what's the significance of that? well, first of all, on the republican side, donald trump still has a path, even if he loses today, to getting the 1237 delegates he needs to be nominated on the first ballot. but every state he loses makes that a little bit harder. if ted cruz does very well today, if he wins all the congressional districts and can deny donald trump all the delegates, then trump's path gets steeper. on the republican side, you've
got bernie sanders way behind. very, very difficult for sanders. his aides even participated in a postmortem story in the "new york times" the other day, which diagnosed why he hasn't done better in the race so far. he's done better than many expected. but he's got to win a huge set of victories in upcoming states in order to overtake her. that's not very likely. the next states coming up are going to be new york on the 19th of april. new debate set between sanders and hillary clinton. on the republican side, ted cruz is beseeching john kasich to get out of the race so he can snatch more delegates away from donald trump. john kasich is showing no sign of doing that. both of these races are going to go on after wisconsin. but you could get new life, a little bit of new momentum for these trailing candidates, should they do what the polls tell us and win wisconsin today. >> john, ted cruz has made a big
point that either he or donald trump should walk away with the nomination. he's made the point even if he has fewer delegates and fewer votes that have come in the primary, that it would be okay for him to win by convincing enough delegates to come to his side. he's also made the point it wouldn't be fair for kasich to do it because he doesn't have enough. is this something you think the electorate buys that, look, you can come in second place and still steal first place from the guy who comes in with the most delegates and that's okay, but you can't come in third place? >> reporter: well, depends which electorate you're talking about. when you get to a republican convention, if neither candidate can win on the first ballot or the second ballot, then delegates are released and ted cruz can't get to 1237, then i think you're in with those republican officials, many of whom have long histories in republican politics, you have a
free for all. that's the case for john kasich or for somebody from the outside. >> i understand the argument trump is making, that if you come in with the most, you should be the winner. i understand the argument others are making sailing, look, it doesn't matter. if you don't get to 1237, the rules are the rules. what i don't understand is the point ted cruz is making. if you come in with the most, it doesn't mean you're the winner because the rules are the rules, but we throw the rules out once you get to the point where we only look at the top to two people coming in. >> reporter: at this point in political campaigns, we're not talking about principled arguments. we're talking about arguments benefitting the person making the argument. ted cruz wants to disqualify any non-trump candidate other than him saying, well, no, of course you can't have somebody like paul ryan come in, you can't have john kasich come in. but this is a situation if we, in fact, get to cleveland
without a first ballot winner that, we haven't seen in a very long time. so what the republican rank and file have a tolerance for, what the republican party officials have a tolerance for, that just hasn't been tested. everybody is making self-interested arguments. that's what ted cruz is doing. i think which of those argues will fly is something that we're just going to have to see play out. >> i think kasich is much more ridiculous than the cruz argument. that is, you know, certain polls -- to talk about general election polls at this point and point to those as a reason -- even though i've won only one state and usually get 4% or 5%, and to make the case because these nebulous polls show me winning over hillary clinton, that's even flimsier. that's just a way of staying in. >> the rules say anybody can win on the second ballot.
>> he had his chance to get the nomination. he never did well in any state except one. >> reporter: joe, you're right. it is a flimsy argument. but again, it's all self-interested arguments in that case. for john kasich to win under this scenario at this point, it's kind of like that twistering three pointer that marcus page hit last night to tie the game with four seconds left. >> no. >> reporter: he made the bucket. >> it's more like that northern iowa shot from the top of the other key to beat texas. >> reporter: okay. fair enough. >> did you stay up for the end of that game, joe? >> we didn't stay up for the beginning. >> we have ariana huffington on. you need sleep, john. maybe that's your problem. >> reporter: that was the best finish ever in a championship game. >> stop rubbing it in.
i know that. i'm going to watch it again now. anyway, that's the problem. there's a lot of good things about this. i was just reading some stuff about iger. gets up at 4:30 no matter where he is. >> big time exercise routine. does the climber. >> we got one of those, and i hate it. you know i have a personal trainer. did you see that yesterday? >> i did. >> austin powers decided -- i don't know, does he decide those things? yeah, baby. when did he get a show on hbo? >> who? >> austin powers. >> like a year ago. anyway, coming up, markets under pressure. u.s. equity futures lower by triple digits. we're going to talk to strategists from jpmorgan and citigroup next. show me movies with romance.
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here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let's talk about where we are. jack, how are you feeling? >> color if hn his cheeks. >> i think things are okay. we have certainly a friendly federal reserve. we have somewhat lower oil prices, which reflects lower inflation expectations. valuations are not cheap, but we are about to get earnings season. hopefully that gives us a change in the discussion. >> so you think earnings season is going to surprise even though so many people have been worried that this is going to be the worst earnings season we have seen in a while? >> the fact everyone talking about it being the worst earnings season sets up lower expectations. the fact that people are so cautious going into earnings, i think, means you have the potential for some surprises. >> steven, how about you?
>> we've had upside surprises since mid-2009. every single quarter has been an upside surprise. i think that will be substantially stronger than this negative 7% first quarter estimate. so that's where we are. but markets have come full circle from where we were a couple months ago. now there are much more reasonable expectations for where we're going. but there's also a great deal of new confusion over global monetary policy. this idea that we're going to now stimulate the world but we're not going to spill across borders and not going to have the problems of, you know, affecting exchange rates. >> and yellen spoke last week, but yesterday the boston fed president was out once again saying, look, i'd be willing to vote sooner rather than later. >> this is adding to the new confusion. we just had in the employment report on friday the best news
that we've seen in the expansion so far. six consecutive months of increases and labor force participation. it's as if the labor force is suddenly reawakened. i didn't expect that after six years of a dormant, weakening labor force. this is supply and demand in the u.s. labor markets, now recovering for the first time. yet, you see this idea we have to cling to monetary policy. we better do something, otherwise we're in deep trouble. >> i know that you both feel like we've talked down earnings season. maybe things will look a little better. i don't know if that'll translate into earnings for the current quarter. maybe ceos are starting to feel a little better, but do you think you'll hear confidence from them on the earnings calls with the guidance they give out? because the market will key off that closely too. >> the way the macro data has performed, it's strengthiening into the second quarter. back to these issues of exports,
but we've been through three quarters here where we're having a global inventory recession. manufacturing will hold back pruk profits. so the first half of the year, we're not going to see this massive earnings drop and we're not going to repeat the full decline we've had in the energy sector last year. >> jack? >> the data is coming in better than below expectations economically. two, we're hiring. and generally, you aren't going to hire people if you think the world is about to go through another contraction. >> i agree. >> the extent you're willing to spend money, bring in workers who need to be trained, need to be brought up to speed, i think that speaks to there is underpinning thrust to the economy. >> david rubenstein was with us yesterday. he's the co-founder of the carlisle group. his point was, look, in the last month, he's really seen a turn. he's got over 200 companies around the globe.
he's seriously seen a turn in consumer confidence, business confidence during that time. i just wonder if that's so new that a ceo is going to be a little cautious before saying that on a conference call and getting pinned down to expectations for the rest of the year based on a turn that's happened in the last month. >> neither are monetary policymakers saying anything great about the outlook. again, how much can you expect them to say? the estimates themselves have been cut more than we had seen at any point last year, and conditions are probably moving in a slightly more favorable way. the bigger part of the earnings gains for this cycle, sad to say, are over. >> would you both be willing to commit money -- would you tell people to commit money here or wait for a slight pullback? >> we're having a slight pullback today. >> triple digits down? we're still talking about levels right within distance of highs for the year. >> within highs for the year, but i think you're constantly trying to look at what happens over the next 9 to 12 months. that's what the market can try to discount with some degree of
success. six months ago, we would have been talking about markets closer to highs than low, and everyone was saying, well, i want to buy on a pullback. they had a pullback. no one really aggressively bought. they had a rally, another decline, another rally. the fact is, people want to buy cheap. generally you don't get to buy cheap without some headline trying to scare you at the same time. >> we're constantly committing new money to both equities and fixed income. where we were two years ago, we were committing a lot more incrementally to equities. now you take a look in the united states where everybody feels yields are low. in the high-grade corporate bond market, you can get 5% yields if you're willing to take some duration risk. folks have been generally staying in on the yeield curve, expecting rates to rise dramatically. so we're committing incrementally more, but we still like u.s. equities. >> all right. thank you both for coming in today. coming up when we return, baseball legend johnny bench has
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welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. folks, check out the u.s. equity futures. if you are just waking up, you're in for some red ink this morning. dow futures are indicated down by about 141 points. dow closed down yesterday at about its lowest levels of the morning. it was only down at the end of the day by about 56 points. you can see this is carrying over this morning, and it's not just happening here. the s&p futures are down by close to 20 points. nasdaq down by 37. in europe, the losses are much steeper this hour. the dax in germany is off by 2.5%. the cac in france down by 2.4%. check out the price of crude. it was under pressure yesterday. you can see that wti is down once again today, another 22 cents to 35.48. >> time now for the executive edge. a couple fun stoes to tell you about. a new study showing the most popular cities for college graduates. here they are. charlotte, denver, san francisco, and seattle. that's at the top of the list of graduates, followed by dallas,
new york, and portland. according to the data from student loan marketplace. those cities saw more out-of-state graduates moving in despite being some of the most expensive cities in the country. apologie apologies, there's no boulder. >> no boston either. >> or cambridge. >> but boston is not great for weather. that's the only thing. >> that's true. >> spring starts in june. >> does palo alto also count? >> yeah, i think that's san francisco probably. charlotte is nice. charlotte has weather that we're all going to have here in a couple years, which is -- why people complain about it, i don't know. >> nice and balmy. >> wouldn't you sign on for north carolina weather here? never really any snow. >> there's got to be snow. >> there's a blizzard up -- >> i don't want to get into this. i just read a whole article
about how weather and climate are not the same thing. >> i read that too. they make that point that you never attach a weather event to climate change unless it's sandy. then you do attach. if it works for the argument, then it's climate. but if it doesn't, that's just weather. >> can i tell you about another pressing concern i'm actually very freaked out about? after ebola, this is the new scare. vietnam has confirmed the country's first two cases of zika virus. >> i bet you bedbugs could carry zika theoretically. >> no, just mosquitos. health officials say the two women, who are 64 and 33, have tested positive in vietnam. they're in stable condition, but the younger woman is eight weeks pregnant. the world health organization says there's a strong scientific consensus that zika can cause microreceively in children. vietnamese health officials say no health issues have been found
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year. gold prices gained 16%, and that is the best quarter for gold in 30 years. joining us now is the ceo of rex shares, greg king. greg is launching two gold heads to etfs this morning. i thought it would have done better than 16%. that was a slow, steady, multiyear move that it had three, four, five years ago, right? >> yeah, i mean, gold is big time in the headlines obviously with the last quarter. our etfs are a new way basically for investors to access gold. we think it's a good time for people to be looking at it, but in a way that allows them to stay long the market at the same time. >> it's rolled over a little bit since moving higher. you think that's base building to move above 1300 eventually? >> yeah, i mean, you know, a lot of different technical ways to look at it. obviously a great quarter. uncertain about how quickly it consolidates, but i think
long-term gold is a great thing. >> you make the case that negative interest rates make it a yield -- a high-yield play. other people say you're just whistling past the graveyard. i can't imagine negative interest rates are good for gold. >> look -- >> what do you mean a yield play? there's no yield. >> no, there is no yield. in fact, that's something that people, you know, don't like about gold. the idea is in europe and asia, investors are looking at negative interest rates, which some people are saying has put a bid into gold. >> why though? >> why? because it's -- >> you're not getting yield anywhere else, so you might as well have gold because you're not getting the yield anywhere else anyway. >> yield is greater than negative something, right? >> it seems to indicate deflation is still a worry, and that's never good news for gold. >> yeah, i mean, it's interesting though, right. when rates got pushed negative was one of the biggest surges in gold. i'm not sure that the conventional wisdom really applies. >> well, the big surge you're talking about is back to 1250. the big surge in gold came at
the front end of all of the qe around the world and all of the easy money around the world because people thought that would debase currencies. that's why einhorn decided to buy it at 1800 or whatever it was. but the move had just been made and the central banks were moving into the last stages of all these accommodations. gold had already come back down. i think it was in anticipation of that. >> we stay away from predicting the day-to-day moves. the point is having a little bit of gold is a prudent thing to do in a portfolio. for the last three years, nobody wanted to talk about gold, and gold was just going one way, right. the last quarter, all of the sudden people are thinking, wait a second, it still has safe-haven type properties. you saw vix ramp up at the same time. vix has come back down, but gold is still up 15%-plus. overnight, you see markets off and gold up. it has this diversification.
we think there's a time for investors to get a new way to access gold. >> why an etf? >> you know etfs are growing by leaps and bounds. they're convenient. they're transparent. there's been sort of this misconception with gold that people have to sell out of something. they have to sell out of stocks and buy gold, you know, when everything is bad. people don't, you know, necessarily want to have gold. it doesn't have income, doesn't have an earnings yield. it's kind of like paying your insurance premium. what we're doing with these ghs and ghe, which launch today, is for the first time you can have a stock portfolio, right -- so based on the s&p 500 or emerging markets, we have two funds, and you have that stock portfolio support a position in gold futures. so you don't have to -- you can stay long the market at the same time but have a little bit of that gold in there.
>> except we just said the other day that i want the physical metal. when i go to bribe the border guard and i show him my statement that i own some etfs and say, here, i'll sign these over to you, that might not work to let me out of the country or something, will it? isn't it better to buy physical gold? >> look, there's people -- >> do you really back up all these etfs with gold? is it really somewhere? come on now, greg, tell me the truth. >> i will tell you the truth. ours is an investor product. there's people who want the coins. they want to hold them. that's fine. >> they're heavy. >> or they want the etf that has physical bouillon. this is taking the price of gold through futures. we're not as concerned about the bars and bringing them home. >> but isn't part of the problem that when you don't have the physical ownership of the gold, that the moves you see in the etf can be largely exaggerated from the actual moves from the metal itself? >> not really. actually, the price has stayed pretty closely in line with each
other. >> all right. greg, thank you. >> i'm going to be dropping some barrels of oil off at your house in the backyard. you taking delivery in the driveway? >> that was when i wanted cattle. i didn't want oil out there. i wanted cattle when oil was 200. i would have rather have had cattle. get leather, milk, meat, all those things. >> he's running a farm in his backyard. >> or an oil well or a gold mine. coming up when we return, shares is of beverage maker coca-cola and pepsi co. on the rise. it's on the rise in a weird way because there are falling levels of soft drink consumption under way. we'll talk to a beverage analyst. back in a moment. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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>> welcome back to "squawk box". soda may be facing a scary reality. americans cut their soda intake in 2015 over 1% in the u.s. alone. coca-cola dropped by 1% in volume consumed and pepsi dropped by 3%. but shares of both coke and pepsi have been surging. join us to explain why is our beverage analyst. good morning. what is going on. it doesn't make sense. >> i think that the stocks are responding more to macro issues,
people looking for dividends, stable dividends. the sort of business while it's in decline is declining slowly. you also had the dollar reverse a little bit so the currency which has been very negative for the last couple of years is not quite as negative. and most important if you look at coke which is outperforming you have some management change. >> the other thing that both pepsi and coke talk about constantly is packaging and margin, which is to say they are coming down in the size of packaging. they are saying don't worry that nobody -- that people are drinking less of the actual product we're now producing different size products, smaller products and people love them just as much and willing to pay as much if not more for them. >> the price per ounce is going up. trying to get a higher price for whatever they are selling. but i think you're absolutely right. this is not the tobacco industry where you got an addiction and
people can't stop drinking soda. there's lots of alternatives. >> when you look at what they are doing on the packaging front is that just a temporary step? >> i think -- >> long term -- >> throughout latin america they were successful in matching price with channel price. >> what about the effort to diversify the mix of products. you have pepsi which is clearly pursued that strategy the most. tried to make pepsi as healthy as you can make a soda company effectively. coca-cola has not done the same. they tried to diversify the mix but in a different way. >> coke knows the more coke it sells is better the profits. particularly water is much less profitable because the competition is much more intense and they don't dominate those coordination. they have been very reluctant, they got in so slowly and counting against them. their mix is still 80% to 90% carbonated soft drinks.
>> management change at coke? >> we have a ceo for the first time. kent has been chairman for some time. that will change over the next year. the company accelerated it's refranchising program. return on investment capital is going up. earnings will not. >> would you prefer to put money in coke or pepsi. >> pepsi. she's differed the fwoods. snack business is bar none one of the greatest consumer businesses around the globe. they dominate snacks. it's got great margins. it grows every year. on beverage side they are lotion. >> is there a big transformational action for pepsi. >> no. people are now looking to coke and coke stock is outperforming because they are really under pressure to move faster. >> and you think there's a deal to be had on the coke side?
>> the story is, ab when it's done with south african breweries it will come in a few years. let's get south african breweries done first and see what happens. when we come back a shake up at disney. the chief operating officer and heir apparent is stepping down next month. jim stewart is here with the latest on disney's succession plan. "squawk box" will be right back. you know, to show the importance of saving for the future. so you're sort of like a spokes person? more of a spokes metaphor. get organized at voya.com.
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a little bit better. they were down over 140 now down 115. oil pulling back, that probably isn't helping but it's been less correlated in recent sessions and not down that much. europe is a problem. down more than 2%. still are. germany is down 2.3%. ugly chart or ugly board right there with four out of five down more than 2%. only the ftse down 1.36%. this hour we have some economic data out of the continent. german industrial orders dropping unexpectedly in february and maybe that's part of the problem. >> got some other headlines. here's what's going on at this hour. a war of words between pimco and bill gross. pimco saying gross engaged in abusive conduct and acted unprofessionally when he abruptly quit the firm. gross is seeking more than $200
million in damages. two economic reports investors will keep an eye on. february trade deficit comes out at 8:00 eastern time. expected to increase slightly from january. and ims index that is seen as improving in the march reading. also bernie madoff is back in the news. he'll be deposed for former custom customers. it centers on victims who said their claims were undervalued. there's been about a billion dollars in legal fees. >> a billion dollars >> a boon for the legal business. >> isn't it always. all right. let's tell you about some stocks to watch. shares of allergan plunging.
allergan-pfizer released a statement saying we are conducting a review of the u.s. d.o. department of treasure aactions announced today. the market is speculating on that. allergan shares were down by 21%. tesla announcing it did not meet its first quarter sales goals reporting a cart shortage. the electric car company promised not make the same mistake with its coming model 3 vehicles. that stock is down after moving up sharply on news of how many people put in their orders. >> i don't know how you can make that promise. >> try not to. >> they won make the same mistake. but they have to make so many more. >> big ramp up. phil lebeau said you won't get it until 2018, maybe 2019.
>> maybe late 2017. >> now they have so many orders than they can ramp up to. united airlines reaching an agreement on contracts everything k30,000 employees and machinist union. that deal will increase pay by 30% over five wears. disney making a surprise announcement. bob eiger's heir apparent is leaving the company. he's stepping down effective may 6th. julie boorstin has more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. that's right. quite an unexpected departure coming. disney shares are down more than 2% in pre-market trading before he became ceo last february. there was a period of major growth and laid the growth in shanghai. he was cfo for 12 years. close to the situation tells me after a year as ceo the board
would not assure him he would be named eiger's successor and made sense for him move to. stag disney's board of directors will broaden the scope much its succession planning process to identify and evaluate a robust slate of candidates for consideration. there are no plans to name a replacement ceo. this is part of a plan to extend eiger's tenure. he's scheduled to depart in june of 2018. disney is looking internally and externally with a focus outside of the company for now. right now i hear there are no front-runners. andrew, certainly a very interesting war to watch. a lot of interest in who is being considered for that post. >> thank you for that. joining us now to talk about the
leadership at the magic kingdom, jim stewart. as we mentioned earlier he wrote the book on disney. we wrote "disney war." so, you hear the news yesterday and you think what? >> frankly i was totally shocked. both because there's a long history, as you know, of trouble with succession at disney, and that problem seemed to have been laid to rest. eiger i thought was doing a fantastic job as he's done in many aspects of management in laying the ground work for succession, smooth transition, highly qualified, very popular, very smart, great candidate in tom staggs who was in this bake off for five years. >> what went wrong. the board wanted to look beyond tom skaggs? >> this is eiger's board and i can't believe this is happening
without eiger's blessing. stagds seemed to be eiger's choice. only one year since then. what happened in that year? something happened. >> difference between, without his blessing and if he was the one with the knife. >> could be easily either one. the history there was -- to be the heir apparent at disney for so many years was to have the kiss of death on your back. that was going to be an end. under eisner was there no one of good enough. >> eiger has almost the same aura. >> it's significant that eiger said he'll step down on schedule. >> why? he's such a young guy. the whole world moved away from 65. almost 70, 75. >> he's young for his age. >> is that a possibility? >> i assume so.
he's already extended it two years. he could extend it again if the search doesn't go well. so from a shareholder perspective it's not a huge issue. >> let's talk about that search. among the names, cheryl sandburg. she's on the board. >> a year ago when i wrote the column praising eiger for a succession plan, cheryl sandberg was the name. she's a woman, she's digital, she's young, she knows the consumer base. so, yes, she's on the dream list no doubt about it. >> another guy -- >> would she leave facebook? is that an option? >> is she going to be ceo of facebook any time soon? i don't think so. this is a great job. why would you not want to be ceo of disney. that's why it's so interesting. this is one of the great jobs in the world. >> anybody more qualified than steve burke? >> steve burke. he's got all the -- >> he knows abc, he knows
disney. >> he has a creative background. would he leave comcast a family controlled company? maybe. >> what about chernen. >> he was much talked about when eiger -- >> chase carey. these are my names. you might have some. now we're getting too far afield. >> look you got to manage talent. st staggs, i don't think anything went wrong. you have to be a master orchestrating these things. >> one person, ben sherwood. >> great guy but only been running this a year or so.
there was somebody else in there. i think -- >> there's nobody inside disney that you think is on the list. >> no obvious candidates. >> nobody had their job long enough. staggs has been there 26 years. he ran the theme parks. hand on management experience. >> is that what staggs is saying if you're looking for others i'm not is going to stay here and be in the midst of this. >> when you have been named heir apparent so visibly after five years you get it and then suddenly a year later board says we'll expand the search you leave. >> what's weird about that, it would make sense if it was iger you got to move him out. why do you want to start all over grooming some guy with 26 years and has these qualities unless it's you thats to stay.
>> if iger wants to stay he can stay. he could have gone to staggs let's keep going. >> i would say staggs gone makes iger harder for the next 12 months. the next person plus they have to have somebody to manage the place. >> we won't hear he goes to 2022? >> i can't say that. who knows. he could go longer. >> he's on that stairmaster. >> does he want to? he's the one that set this retirement plan. he said he wanted to go out and do other things. >> staggs is supposed to stick around. shanghai is coming. is that face saving or on the ground working? >> i hate to say this i like tom staggs, he's a great talent but a lame duck.
>> what do you think about our other idea was to give jack dorsey a third job. >> yes, know. >> you don't like that idea. >> he hasn't benton board that long. i wouldn't put him on the list. >> marissa mayer might need a job. >> there's going to be plenty of people who would love to do this even if it means going in there -- look what happened when they brought in ovitz from the outside. it can to be done. >> fair enough. thank you. great to see you sir. when we come back we'll talk about this morning's selloff. futures are lower. down triple digits most of morning. dow down by 113, s&p off by 16, nasdaq by close to 30. weak demand for it was line adding to the global oil glut. we'll talk about that too. later former indiana governor new president purdue, mitch daniels will be our guest.
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>> i'm committed that at the end of the year, no one is going to be confused about the risk that remains. at the end of the day up to the american people and congress to decide whether or not they want to go further. that's up to them. that's their call. that's the job of our elected representatives. i feel our job at the minneapolis fed is to speak bullpen the risk we see so no one has a false sense of security. >> neel kashkari planning to release a proposal with a list of solutions by the end of the year. we have more from neel kashkari when he joins closing bell. he'll do that live. and talking hong kong overnight, chicago fed president charles evans argued the u.s. central bank needs in his words proactive and aggressive to get inflation to hit the fed's 2% target. he's been pushing for only two rate hikes this year, just standing pat doesn't seem to be
proactive and aggressive. we had him on last week and that's what we heard. to stay where you are and not increase is that proactive to stay where you are? i don't know. how are you proactive and aggressive when you stay with the current policy. >> data points. continue to northern. very aggressively monitoring the data points. >> we're aggressively not raising rates. let's get a check on futures. we've seen a lot of red arrows. the dow futures are down by 111 points, s&p down by 15, nasdaq by 29. things are looking worse in early trading in europe. joining us now is the chief investment officer at the bank and investment officer at deutsche bank. these red arrows we've seen, particularly weakness in europe, what do you think is happening? >> europe is in a tough year.
and the u.s. market has had a nice rebound off the lows but we're flat year-to-date. i don't think the market makes a whole lot of upward progress until after the election. >> you're not expecting much out of earnings season. >> earnings season will be tough. profit recession continues. revenue will be down 5% year-on-year and earnings down a few percent. still very slow growth and our advice is stay away from energy. advice for quite some time. i think it's a good thing to keep doing. keep selling energy. i like health care. health care and pharmaceutical stocks will have a good performance. >> jack what do you think about the markets >> fundamentally seems fine. it's valuation. trump says there's a bubble. investors are nervous. but i think that the real test is going to be first quarter earning season when investors come face to face with these
earnings numbers. seems like the market is trading between, you know, roughly 15 1/2 forward pe to 18 pe where it's 17 1/2 now. if we can get to that upper bound about 3% upside from here. >> here's what i think about this. we're incorporate earning season. first quarter not is going to see great numbers although we've heard from some people in private equity, people who are willing to come in and say look we think things have gotten better in the last month sore. there's a serious things. i don't know that will translate into confidence on the calls with the ceos who may not be willing to stick out their neck based on a relatively short term trend. >> i look at bottom up estimates, and it's been a big miss. as recently as last june analysts had been anticipating something like 10% -- >> 10 or 12% increase. >> instead we're looking at an
8% decline. >> a lot of people look at that and say the bar has been lowered significantly. >> true. that's for this quarter. the problem is if you look out two or three quarters they are still back at the 10% increase. my sense is as we get closer to these quarters they are bringing these estimates down. >> the guidance you don't think we'll hear much guidance that improve the outlook. >> that's the key. certainly not going to be the numbers. two-thirds of the companies will outperform whatever those estimates are. you know, i think that's a given. question are they going to say okay brighter skies ahead, we do see revenue earnings growth, whatever. but i tend to focus on revenue growth. what i've written about is look, company management hire accountants like movie stars hire plastic surgeons. they are not nipping and tucking at revenue. what they are doing is changing the bottom line. if you look at the spread between reported earnings and
gap earnings it's the widest it's been since 2008. >> david, in terms of you thinking the market will be range bound that means if there's a 5% selloff you tell people to jump in. 10%. what makes you think this is a time to get. >> in decide at the time. i'm very concerned about the commodity complex. while things have stabilized in the economy and stabilized in manufacturing, it's still tough in manufacturing, still very risky in commodities. i think people should be very concerned that oil has gone back to $35 a barrel despite the dollar weakening by a few percent. >> because >> if you have a weaker dollar -- >> why are you concerned about oil back at 35. we came up very sharply. >> as we've learned and largely past the point of debate weak oil prices are a negative for us. the energy and industrial sectors, banks are under pressure. so oil of $35 doesn't justify these equity valuations and energy stocks, oil needs to be
$65 to justify that. that's why we're underweight on energy. earnings season will be as it typically two-thirds of the companies beat 8% decline. it will turn out to be 3% decline pup don't see decent earnings growth until the back half of the year. getting that will require higher oil and not a surge in the dollar and an improvement in global and u.s. investment spending. those are all-big ifs. one encouraging piece oil sustained a barrage of bad news in late january and early february. when the oil minister of saudi arabia says we won't cut production because we don't cut any opec member and oil stayed at 27 that suggests at least we now know what the bottom is. we think that neighbor credit markets, you know, have a bottom there too. >> jack, david, thank you both. when we come back if you went to bed early a dramatic finish to the ncaa championship
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welcome back, everyone. among the stories that are front and center this morning, darden restaurants reporting a profit that was two cents better than expected. same store restaurant sales rose during the quarter. that stock is up by 1%. a mixed quarter for walgreen's. the drugstore beat the forecast by three cents with a quarterly profit of $1.31. revenue was below. walgreen's says it's making progress in cuts costs in what it calls a challenging retail sales environment. that stock is down by 2.5%.
sports authority reaching a settlement with suppliers as the sports goods retailer navigates through bankruptcy. they wanted to take back $85 million in goods. sports authority said it needed products to sell in its remaining stores. new entry in crowded market for streaming services. starz is launching a new service that cost $59 month aimed at 20 million u.s. homes that pay for internet but not the full cable tv bundle. part of a big unbundling strategy out there. it will offer original starz shows as well as thousands of tv episode and movies. "star wars" force awakens will happen later this year. >> treasury department unveiling some new inversion rules. shares of allergan falling more than 20% on the news, on fears this could derail its merger with pfizer.
>> so what i'm hearing this came as a shock all around. while people were cautious about whether this deal would close given treasury's aversion to inversion nobody expect these rules to come out and nobody expected them to target this deal like it is. let's look what these new provisions bring. treasury came out with two other set of rules before. people are calling three year look back and earnings stripping. earnings stripping is a way of shifting around assets or debt to lower taxes after a deal. folks are not bothered by that one. the one that affects this deal is the three year look back and it reinquires to the number of acquisitions that a foreign company make of u.s. companies that can be counted in its size when you consider whether it's an inversion. look why people think it targets pfizer-allergan. we have a list of the recent deals that allergan has done in the last three or four years.
you can see it did its first, first acquisition of warner back in october of 2013. that's how it ended up moving to ireland. in 2014, actavis bought forest labs and then they bought allergan last year. folks are saying these new rules would take out those latter two deals and that equity wouldn't be able to be count in its size when you calculate against pfizer size. it wouldn't meet that 40%-60% threshold. >> what about allergan. would it be paying different taxes? assume the deal doesn't go through and allergan is a standalone. would it no longer be considered an inversion. >> that's what's causing fears driving down allergan stock. that's not a concern because the warner deal was long enough ago. it's inversion would still stand under these three year look back. >> can you imagine both of these
companies suing the government or -- >> i can imagine it. what i've been hearing is that that would be a long legal battle, presumably they might have to close the deal with the u.s. tax base and then sue the government and what i'm hearing that's too risky for both sides to contemplate. that can take too long and the deal as structured doesn't make sense for either side if they pay usa tax rate. >> threw have it. >> people are nervous about whether this deal goes through. >> it certainly seems like it will shut down inverge erosion but what it doesn't do is change the valuation for u.s. corporations that foreign companies would come in and potentially buy. they would still pay more money in a situation like that. it fixes part of the inversion problems, but it would take a complete tax reform change the entire system. >> that's what treasury says as well. even though they come out with these rules, congress needs to act and they are still asking
for tax reform. this does chill this potential inversion. there's a question whether they can still do it under the 80-20% threshold but that takes away the trappings of the deal for them. >> in terms of foreigners coming to buy what might not be considered an inversion, straight deal, that it still makes that harder or makes it less appealing to some degree because of the earnings stripping issue. that's going to impact you no matter who you are. >> i have heard that will impact everybody maybe a couple of percentage points but that's not considered to be as big news today at least with the three year look back. >> thanks, meg. battle for delegates is all about wisconsin today. the candidate that will eventually go on the win the white house will have a lot of big fiscal challenges. joining us now is mitch daniels former governor of in, co-chair of the committee for responsible federal budget and president of
purdue university. welcome. good to see you. we just had all this conversation that i think is in the air about inversions, and it all brings up the overall point of how we get enough revenue to keep the government running. do you think there will ever be a time when we don't have to, you know, work around the edges of these issues and we just make capital to be more attractive to be kept in the united states. will that happen in the next administration, governor >> we'll deal with this eventually. we'll either work around the edges or i hope more directly or the problem will work on us in a catastrophic way. i think -- i'm just a spectator these days. nor participant than any of you. we spectators have been a little disappointed let's say in the quality of the debate so far. but the single most
disappointing element to me is the almost complete absence of wrestling with the really the transcendent problem facing our country which is 18 trillion of deficit, tens of trillions of unkeepable promises, unfunded liabilities that the federal government has taken on. would you have thought by now that this monstrous problem of imminent enough that it couldn't be evaded. so fair trade has been. let's hope in the months remaining that somehow someone will force it on to the, into the front of the debate. it's stark choice too between two sides right now. even if you don't speak specifically about the individual candidates on either side. on the left they are running head long towards even more entitlements, more promises. i don't know how that would affect the 19 trillion or the unfunded liabilities. i can't imagine it would affect it in a good way. on the other side people talking
about getting rid of the deficit in eight years but at least they are talking about an answer to the problem of being found in growth, not in just increasing the size of government and giving out more free stuff. is that a fair assessment of what's happening. the american people, wouldn't you go for growth? it's always easier to accept more free stuff. >> neither side has distinguished itself in my opinion. there's been again completely unkeepable promises made on both sides and nothing substantive said by the remaining candidates about how we begin to address this problem. but, you know, i think about it -- like everything else these dis -- look it through the lens of young people on the purdue campus and elsewhere. young people today that have student debt. we worry a lot about that. average maybe $30,000. they owe 25 times that, they are
in store for 25 times that much debt courtesy of us, our elders that we piled up for them and a threat to their future. it's a threat to the present economy. you know, you are exactly right. this won't be solved without a lot more revenue. but there won't be revenue at 1, 1.5% growth rate. you would think people on both sides would recognize this reality and as a starting point before we get to any other issue agree we got to stop strange technology growth in the american economy. >> seems like, governor, it would have been an ideal year for a pragmatic republican to gain support with the growth platform and maybe lowering corporate taxes and in sort of a reasonable way. after these eight years it would have seemed you would be a
pretty easy winner. that's not what we have. 35% to 40% are very happy to break the establishment wide-open for, i guess, based on a populace message. would you prefer someone like a paul ryan to come in that might have an idea what to do with the budget and entitlements and social security and medicare and everything else? >> i make no comments these days about any individual or even as between two parties. i will just say that although i don't yet hear anything really constructive or realistic being said by the so-called anti-establishment candidates it's not hard to understand why people are anxious and frustrated and looking for something very, very different. this is clearly true of people who have seen their own economic prospects lowered, and their expectations not met, and frankly for those who have thought about it, if you're not
displeased with the way the establishment, both parties have failed to deal with our national debt problems then i don't think you paid enough attention. >> you don't want to cut your nose off to spite your face either. >> i'm not sure which nose you're referring to. >> let's say people on the republican side of things, 35% 2 to 40%. they are unhappy where they are in life, angry about a lot of things. you want solutions. you don't want to exacerbate it. you might elect hillary clinton. that's what the current thinking is. >> a number of people on both sides appear to believe they have not been dealt with honestly and forthrightly by our political process and they are right. single best example, however of that is the completely misleading things they have been told about the nature of the so-called entitlement programs, the size of this problem and the threat it poses to them and
their children. you know, you should never blame the american people for believing that somehow this current arrangement can continue. they've been actively misled and politicians of both parties share in that responsibility. >> you're not getting involved in politics. are you involved in critics. that entire conference you're in right now, what was that? i mean i'm kind of embarrassed for the entire conference. what happened? >> well we beat each other up all season and, yeah. i'm actively involved in recruiting. once again we're recruiting the strongest entering class academically in purdue history even as we grow the school. >> who cares about that. i'm talking about your basketball team. >> i know what you meant. >> i'm kidding. anyway good luck. thanks governor, president of purdue. good to see you. coming up when we return, "food and wine" revealing its
list of best chefs for 2016. find out who made the cut and more importantly if the restaurants in your own city. at the top of
the hour we'll dig into politics, economy and executive changes at disney with arianna huffington and talk about sleep and how we're not getting enough of it. box will your honor in just a moment.
. welcome back to box. futures right now, take a quick look down 109. best we've seen this this morning. not great. triple digits but it was almost 150 earlier. s&p now indicated down 15 or so. and the nasdaq down, faring a little worse than the others, down almost 34 points. >> "food and wine" emergency best new chef's list is out. this list highlighted the young leaders behind most of america's most celebrated and successful restaurants. the editor-in-chief of "food and wine". great to have you here. and joined by chef andrew. kind of hard to get into but now
we know each other. >> just text me. >> we can work on that. >> i don't know if you can non-invite. >> how do you make the ranging? >> this list is a list we have been doing since 1988. we've literally been putting incredible talent on the list. daniel bloom, thomas keller, nancy silverton. the way you headache the list this is not what you take lightly. it takes a year of our staff working hard. you have to be running a restaurant for less than five years. >> less than five years. >> five years or less. >> by the way, how much do you guys like try to get on the list? is this a whole back behind-the-scenes. >> i won in 2000 and i had no idea they showed up which is why it's a legitimate list. you don't know they are there. they do a lot of research. still a prominent thing.
>> we tease this and said we'll tell you some of the chefs. can you tell us some of them? >> yes, i can. we had a party for them last night. they were all in town. what's exciting about the trends, i see a lot of entrepreneurship. now that we look at what andrew has done, established an empire of restaurants. these very young chefs have started their mini empires. three started restaurants in their own homes. these are people especially committed to the idea. >> top, top three new chefs. >> well depends on where you are. i'm really excited about the duo we have in new york. incredibly talented young chef. wild air and contra. they have two. i like lazy bear in san francisco. another chef in san francisco. if you're down in new orleans go
to mofo. it's a combination -- it's a play on the vietnamese word for pho. >> morrison foster is the company. goes by mofo. what were you talking bp >> same thing. >> restaurant question for you. there's a whole trend now to getting away from tips. what do you make of that? that make stones you >> the no tip situation? i'm conflicted as a customer i like the idea of tipping. at the end of the meal i can choose how well service was and reward somebody. as an own i like that incentive it gives somebody to sell well. give good service. with the new labor increases we'll see how that model works. we're studying it on a weekly basis. >> how does minimum wage debate impact you? >> it's going to impact things a
lot especially new york city. >> what will change as a function of it? >> prices will go up. >> service go down. will you decide, you know what? we're going to try to find a way to eliminate one or two positions. >> that's the balance. do what we do well. make sure the prices are in line what people want to pay for. >> what do you see in terms of customers. >> depends on the restaurant and neighborhood. i'm in a bunch of different neighborhoods. depends on style of the restaurant. i like the sense you can stop by for a bite to eat and a big night out. neighborhood place and destination. >> it's interesting in terms of what you're saying in terms of the economic impact of restaurants. 39 million americans say they make their decisions where they will go based on what they will do there with food. that's incredible impact on the
economy. these people are stimulating our economic future. >> bigger opportunity in the ultraexpensive side of the restaurant or middle of the road or lower right now >> you know, i'm in like the middle upper. middle middle upper. >> you look up and say the per se stuff done work. >> it's about the real estate. depends on what your occupancy costs are to make that deal work. what your costs. depends with you are. that model works in new york but not work in cleveland. >> does everybody need to get in the burger business or some way to franchise themselves. >> shake shack was the big deal there. burger field. >> trying to do some kind of franchise, something. is that the way every chef has to approach the world? >> i never thought i would have multiple restaurants. i thought i would be there
cooking every night. now i have ten. it's a new way to look at things for chefs. >> thank you for bringing the croissants. >> at the top of the 8:00 a.m. hour we welcome arianna huffington as our guest host. we'll be talking politics, matters and much more. at 8:30 a.m. we have mark ber torch-- bertolini as our special guest. why do so many businesses rely on the us postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. that's why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. here, there, everywhere. united states postal service
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they had prepared for even the unthinkable. and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. new this morning an nbc news poll shows donald trump's national lead dipping after a rough week for the gop front-runner. this comes as voters in wisconsin head to the polls for the badger state's primaries today. our special guest this hour, arianna huffington.
>> a healthy view on business and life. aetna ceo mark bertolini is here to talk about his company, the industry, why he says it's more important than ever to get some sleep. and oops we'll tell you why walmart is apologizing to the university of maryland this morning as the final hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ we're on. welcome back to box here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with becky quick and andrew ross sorkin and we're less than 90 minutes away from the opening bell. i feel like opening the market today. futures are down 114 points. not as bad as it was.
they were down by 150 earlier. a lot of this is directly import order exported from the continent over there. journal down 2.3%. we definitely don't want numbers like that here if you're long. over 2% in france. ftse down 1.3. italy and spain down 2%. i don't know what's ailing them. those german orders for something. >> i read something about that briefly. but look we've seen the market come back really sharply. a lot of people nervous about it. the fed is not raising rates which won't help things in europe. >> you saw bubba watson on "60 minutes". did you also see the german prison story? these people live nicer than -- >> they do. >> it's just -- germany they are a kind-hearted people and they want to treat -- now they decide they want to -- couple of world
wars later they are now sensitive. i was just watching it. it's classic. >> allergan shares are under pressure and that may be an understatement if the shares are down 20%. they are down after the treasury department and irs announced new rules to curb inversion deals. allergan down by over 19%. pfizer superby 2.5%. allergan and pfizer are waiting to close the biggest tax inversion of all time. they are reviewing the government's actions. disney chief operating officer tom staggs is leaving the media giant. staggs learned he was not guaranteed the top job and disney's board would broaden its search for a new chief executive. this came last year when he was named heir apparent.
disney shares are down by 2%. >> tesla is giving back some gains. the company said it did not meet its first quarter sales goals part due to a parts shortage. tesla promised not make the same mistake with the coming model 3. twitter social blogging is on a deal to show thursday night nfl games online. and will stream those games. we should tell you there's a connection. darden -- julia has more on this story. >> reporter: i just confirmed from a source close to the situation that twitter and nfl are about to announce we can expect the announcement within the next hour twitter has secured the streaming rights for those thursday night games. this was first reported by bloomberg and we should expect
to see the official announcement shortly. of course there's that connection between twitter and nfl. this speaks to what twitter is trying to do in terms of driving users and hoping to use this as a way to grow its base audience beyond that 300 million number where it's been stagnating. it will be an interesting area to watch. the question whether it will attract new users and whether twitter can be the destination for real-time commentary. twitter has made deals with the nba. putting an emphasis on sports. doing stuff around super bowl. this is an interesting move. likely a very expensive one for twitter. some commentary this is a make or break bet. >> do we know what the price tag is? >> we don't know. i'll be doing some digging. i don't think twitter will disclose but we'll get some reports. nfl games do not come cheap.
so certainly a big investment on twitter's part. >> do we know how they plan to stream. currently they have a website. they have twitter mobil. >> they own periscope. which is live streaming technology. the periscope acquisition is about a year old. has bean big success. but streaming nfl games to a massive number of people rather than periscope streams which usually one person streaming to a grouch people, a couple thousand twitter needs have the technology in place but they have some time to get this all set up. >> the twitter embedded in a lot of set top boxes now? >> i think you can access twitter if you have an apple tv but this is really more about the second screen. what twitter wants here is for everyone to go to their phone and say hey i want to watch a football game, i want to comment
on what's going on here. i think this is less about the tv and more about where a lot of video success consumed right now on month binghampton devices. >> julia, thank you very much. julie boorstin. let's talk politics. voters in wisconsin hitting the polls today. at stake there are 86 delegates for the democrats and 42 delegates for republicans. john harwood joins us right now. john this one is interesting bus the front-runners in the parties not necessarily the front-runners in the race tonight. >> reporter: that's right. if you look at the polls they are both favored to lose. let's start with trebs. you see from these numbers real clear politics.com averages, donald trump is behind 39-35 in those averages. ted cruz is hoping for a bigger win than that. the bigger his margin of victory over donald trump the more delegates he's going to get and the better chance he has of denying donald trump a first ballot nomination in cleveland this summer. on the democratic side you see also a narrow lead for bernie
sanders. if bernie sanders is going to overtake hillary clinton given the democrats proportional allocation rules per delegate he's got to win big in wisconsin and many other places. so a narrow victory for bernie sanders doesn't do all that much. let's step back and take a look at the national picture which is an indication where the race may be headed as we go to other states. nationally donald trump still leads by a healthy 17 points over ted cruz but his lead is down slightly in the nbc survey monkey poll from what it was before the week that he had last week which was filled with bad news. on the democratic side, hillary clinton has a nine-point lead. she's in a pretty healthy state with regard to bernie sanders. where the race goes now to northeast, hillary clinton's home state new york. donald trump has a large lead. he needs to win big to stay on track to get those delegates that he needs. tonight will be important to see whether for either of these candidates the momentum shifts in a significant way.
not just narrow wins but in a big way towards cruz and sanders. >> john, the new hairdo going there. got your go to sunday meeting hairdo for the big wisconsin primary. was that it. looking good fella. >> there you go. >> and thank god north carolina -- that would have been actual. that's why you got a bounce in your step. at least the worst case scenario didn't pan out. you can be happy for cramer. >> north carolina is a great program. their team really showed a lot of fight last night overcoming that deficit late. >> great shooting. >> tremendous game. amazing finish. the sequence of those two three-pointers the circus shot from paige to tie the game and chris jenkins winner we haven't seen a final end like that ever. >> amazing. winning it all which is the story of my life. we're going to talk politics and
a lot of stuff with our guest host, arianna huffington. we have to start because i didn't see a minute of that game last night because i needed to sleep. appropriately arianna is author of "sleep revolution" which is out today and she is editor of chief of the "huffington post". i was going to start with just the, whether you think twitter and social media and the internet has just lowered all of our civility or what do we blame where we are today. i'm blaming twitter anonymous trolls that write whatever they want. >> actually, you can blame sleep deprivation. there's a study at the university of massachusetts did where they actually looked at people's sleeping habits, people
who can't sleep at night and tweet. it's much more negative. more sleep deprived more negative they are. they've done a study of tweeting patterns, insomnia and negativity on the internet. >> there should be some mandatory jail terms, anyone who is crazy enough to tweet while intoxicated, right? >> absolutely. >> to your boss or to anybody. it's insanity. >> what's happening now because of this awareness around drunk driving the accidents, the krarks the deaths going down but deaths and crashes for drowsy driving are going up. >> and distracted driving. >> 1.2 million crashes last year. 8,000 deaths because people are tired but they get behind the wheel and they think they will power through. getting people to take the pledge the way they designate a driver for drinking to designate one if you're exhausted.
>> i just -- can you help at the "huffington post" to launch a new way to socialize that starts -- what are we supposed to do? we need to have people start thinking it's cool to go out at 5 p.m. we'll never be cool. never hang out. we got to get up at 4:00 a.m. >> you are the epitomy of cool. what you do sets trends around the world. don't worry about that. >> i need eight hour. >> we need to change cultural norms. when super successful matcho guys like you two say i need eight hours it will have an impact. tradition has been for men -- >> we all need eight hours. we don't get eight hours. how many hours did you get last night >> i got seven. my ideal is eight. >> how often do you get eight. >> 95% of the time.
>> what about napping? >> napping is fantastic. i was talking to charlie rose yesterday who naps three times a day. >> how many times do you nap a day? >> napping is fantastic if you haven't gotten a full night's sleep, jet lagged, a sick child, whatever. we have rooms at the "huffington post" that are full and it's better than going for a third doughnut. here's what else is so serious about that. is the connection between sleep deprivation and alzheimer's. it's now one in nine people over the age of 65 is going to get or has right now alzheimer's. all the new research shows if you are sleep deprived and toxins collected during the day are not cleaned out during the
night and that's the time when the brain actually washes away the toxins. that's one of the primary causes of alzheimer's. there is to be a correlation between the epidemic of alzheimer and epidemic of sleep deprivation. >> you talked to the current state-of-the-art researchers on this. >> absolutely. >> it was not understood 20, 30 years ago. >> science is very recent. the first scientific sleep institute was founded in stanford in 1970. now there are over 2,500 centers. >> which toxins. when neurotransmitters mediate thought and everything else we do they are not broken down. i'm sure they need to be replenished. obviously sleep must be a time when -- there's a lot of important things happening. rem and nonrem. >> we used to believe that sleep was a time of inactivity.
it was like turning off the ignition in the car. in fact, time of frenetic activity, that's when all the things that lead to memory consolidation, processing of information happen. there's a tipping point last week, i don't know if you noticed, the "harvard business review" run a study by mckenzie consultants and the title was "proven link between leadership and sleep." that leaders sleep deprived are less likely to come up with solutions, less likely to be able to build and motivate teams, less likely to find short cuts through problems and they have all the science behind that. what happens in their pre-frontal core texas where executive function happens. what i love it's scientifically based. >> is it get picked up by ceos today. that's the example that has to start at the top. >> exactly.
this is a very new phenomenon to have a new ceo taking over and making that announcement. in the past probably if they did sleep for eight hours they kept it to themselves. now it's supposed to lead to better management. >> we need to change a lot. ben franklin, smartest thing he ever said was early to rise -- it's better. this lifestyle the better. we were talking about bob iger gets up at 4:30 in the morning. better lifestyle but difficult to be happening and out in new york city at night. we need to change. got to be 5:00 to 8:00. >> i'm doing the early bird special. >> i can get reservations at 5:00 p.m. every night. >> coolest places. >> you look cool when it's light outside. that's our problem. >> that's changing. we can change culture.
>> the other thing, these are all physiological things. think about the arguments you overcome or weird things you go through that somehow are taking care of past problems that you didn't complete. >> absolutely. >> dream analysis and all -- >> how much joyful you are. i don't know about you guys. when i'm sleep deprived i'm ranky arank -- cranky and i overreact. >> still to come we have global stocks under pressure this morning. we'll talk investor sentiment next. later aetna ceo mark bertolini joins our guest host arianna huffington to tell us why a good night's sleep is so important. stay tuned you're watching "squawk box" on cnbc, first in business worldwide.
we have the vice president of american association of individual investors and is editor of the aaia journal. help us through this. so investors are staying in cash. some cash but going to work in the stock market right now >> yes. some are. we actually saw this in january and february where some investors said they were looking for bargains, looking for opportunity to buy stocks. in early february, around february 11th before the market bottomed we saw bear sentiment such up 48%. bull sentiment was below 20%. once the market rebounded a lot of fears that the drop would actually get worse and we have not a correction but a bear market some of those father fe subsided. investors looked around and saw stocks were on sale and picked up stocks at lower prices. >> when you say investors going into the smart are they buying
individual stocks or buying mutual funds? >> they are doing both. a lot of our members do buy individual stocks. we spend a lot of time training them how to look at individual stocks. i think the majority own a mixture of some funds and some stocks. >> you know, we're walking into earnings season. there's a since that earnings season may be bad. i know yours is backwards looking. what do you think they will have done when you look next? >> a lot of them are not changing allocations too much. some small things around the edges. we try to encourage them focus long term. certainly concern about earnings. it's split. some members are encouraged that overall trend in earnings is positive and certainly if you take oil out of the calculations, earnings look better. but certainly fears. there's fears in general or i should say concerns about economic growth not only here but also in europe and china.
even here in the u.s. there's concerns that the pace of growth is just still too slow. >> right. real quick i notice here it says cash, you tell me m is the allocation 18.5% or is the average 24% >> the average is 24%. right now about 18 administers allocated to cash. our average members are in their 60s. we see high levels of cash because some members need some set aside. >> not that they are waiting for this big moment. >> you have some but a lot aren't necessarily waiting for this big moment. some are looking for bar begins or some fearful there could be a further drop in the market and what we've seen so far this year is the first step in a bigger downturn. >> charles thank you for joining us this morning. >> my pleasure. >> coming up we got some breaking economic news. this time on trade. plus it's masters week in augusta. we'll show you the pros prepping
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thursday's opening round but then after that the weekend is looking all clear for the 80th edition of the masters at augusta national. hopefully no snow that we have up here around this time of year. you picking anyone, becky? >> bubba, maybe. >> jason day really good. the one i'm pulling for is ricky. >> tiger returns. >> tiger is not playing andrew. >> how is your game? >> horrible. my arms will not is synchronize with my body. i need sleep. i need a psychiatrist. i'm not really sure i need a lot of practice. i need practice on the range without being in tournament settings because that's only time i play. crowds, cameras and everything.
i can't fall back on anything when the nerves -- i got to play well with penelope. i'm a scratch golfer with my wife. >> you need look at tournaments. you need a partner. >> breaking economic news on trade plus we'll welcome aetna ceo mark bertolini to discuss all things hearth. you're watching box on cnbc, first in business worldwide.
seconds away from the international trade deficit report for february. rick santelli is standing by at the cne in chicago. >> reporter: here we go. february's read is minus 47.1 billion. trade balance is a deficit, minus 47 and change. to put it in perspective, minus 50 is the most recent high watermark august of last year. this ends up being the next biggest deficit next to that. the best level we've seen as of late was november at 43 and change. this comes at a particularly interesting time as many of the candidates, of course, talk about trade issues and trade imbalances. i think the biggest issue today is eight basis points is the low yield today on a ten year boom.
historic all time low yield close, about one basis point away from that. the dollar is losing ground against the yen. risk off starts to take its toll on counter intuitive moves on foreign wrecks change. you want to pay attention on this day and i hope everybody saw that buzzer busting great finish to the ncaa tournament last night. wow! back to you. >> all right, rick, thank you very much. rick santelli. we got some other breaking news four. nearly half of all americans can get less than the recommended seven hours of sleep a night. for most of us we know that. for more on productivity and health of business we're joined by mark bertolini. the yceo of aetna. our guest host this morning is arianna huffington. she's the author of "the sleep revolution." there's the new book. mark, great to see you. thank you for joining us. i know health and wellness is a
top priority for your at aetna, something you've been watching very closely. sleep is something you've been monitoring. how important is it? >> it's really important. and as a matter of fact being president in the workplace and making better decisions has a lot to do with our business fundamentals. last year we start ad program that was built around how do we get our employees to sleep more. if they can prove they get 20 nights of sleep for seven hours or more in a row we'll give them $25 a night up to $500. >> how do they prove that. >> fit bit. >> fwhat have my kid wear my fit bit. >> we assume positive intent. the whole idea -- >> you think it makes stoirns bottom flynn people are sleeping out more. >> if people are checked out in a meeting why are they now. if we're talking about important things we can get things done quicker. you can't be prepared if you're half asleep.
>> it changes the cultural delusion that most businesses have been operating under. which has been that the more exhausted and burned out the employees are the more productive they are and all the data now shows that this is completely false. that, in fact, we lose 11 days in productivity because of how exhausted employees are. and how disengaged from the job. what i love, mark, about your story is that while you've been bringing these wellness programs into aetna over the six years you've been ceo you have quadrupled aetna stock. you see the direct connection between how engaged and healthy your employees are and the bottom line. >> definitely. it's all about the business fundamentals. business fundamentals in our business are brought forward by people. it's in those business fundamentals we have consistently product that
customers buy over time. some of our greatest revenue gains is customers we keep which is selling customers. if we can make those business fundamentals better by investing in our people that shows up in our revenue. shows up in our bottom line. and in the street's confidence. >> measuring it. you brought in duke university. >> yep. >> to measure the impact of your wellness programs. what did they find? >> 69 minutes more a move productivity on the part of us investing in mindfulness. >> it's the other programs. >> sleep, meditation,o garks mindfulness. >> 69 minutes in additional productivity a month. >> are you monitors fitbits and stuff like that. is there a big brother element to this? >> we don't monitor as a company. we have people use those tools to monitor their own health. >> in terms if you're providing
$25 for sleep, how does the company monitor that? >> we have an on site website called get active aetna which allows people to record their diet, sleep, exercise and record it every day and they get points for doing that. >> how long are you on? are you even -- >> no, he's here for two segments. >> there's other stuff i want to talk about. >> i want to talk about exchanges too. i get minus on the "huffington post" and chelsea clinton said obamacare is, the premiums are so high it's just -- it was telling that she said that. i'm not sure what it means. i'm trying to read the tea leaves by her criticizing it. in such an open manner. can we talk about it now. we'll continue it. what are we going do with these exchanges >> we have to serve a population -- we have to build products that serve populations that those products. people we have in the public
exchanges today are the people who are too poor -- too rich for medicaid, too young for medicare and quite frankly are crony jalkly ill and subsidized. those products attract those people. >> that's a terrible demographic. >> we want to maintain that as the exchange population we have to think about the risk adjustment differently. if we want more people in exchange stop subsidizing at the premium level and create more products and pool and subsidize at the capital level like we do as insurance companies. >> what do you mean? >> right now what we want to do is cross subsidize across all populations. for people at the younger and healthier ages they don't want to pay out of pocket, they don't want a $6,000 deductible, they don't want to pay for the doctor every time they go. if we get a different set of premiums they will use services they always use them. that cross subsidizes the other
pool of people who are sicker, older and need more care. new don't think the young people will use is service where it becomes -- >> you have to offer them products that they want. they want to look good. they want to feel good. they want to exercise. they want to do all those sorts of things. they are not waiting to see a doctor to get a test or a prescription. >> you had a meeting with a health and human services secretary criticizes some of the exchanges. you toller about some of these things. what was her reaction >> she's a great secretary. she gets the whole program. she's working very hard. she has the data right. we need legislation to make these kind of changes and that's not going to occur in this cycle. we have to wait until we get to a different place. everybody has a mind to make it better. >> will aetna stay in the exchanges? >> too early to bail and we're not being hurt. in the grand skeechl thing we have million lives in the
program and we're not making money but we're not, you know we're not hemorrhaging money. >> so you're a million or -- united health care. >> we're the biggest. >> let me ask you a customer technology question. >> yes. >> in this great age of technology, why is it so impossible as an aetna customer i speak on behalf of every aetna custom out there to submit my bills to you? and get paid back. it's crazy. >> you're getting out of network services. if you use doctor in network that's taken care of behind the scenes. >> but out of network you know how impossible at the moment aetna makes it. >> submit them in paper. yes. we have more to do. >> you don't have it any more. >> you just lost them.
>> two months. >> what are you talking about. united health care all year. you're not even in aetna. >> every customer -- no. >> is there a day. >> we have yunited health care. >> we shouldn't be doing claims procession. we should have a reserve department. we'll get there. with these consolidations you're seeing and ability of large companies to pull resource we can create a clearinghouse. >> meaning that, the patient won't ever touch the bill at all >> right. >> how far along are we on that? >> five years. >> five years? it's only bean couple of months. >> it's all year long. >> don't fight. >> what is it, march? >> april. >> two months. >> increasingly -- right.
>> people are awake at night bothered their health insurance. >> what your talking about? >> you're not answering him. you have united health care. >> he done use in network doctors so you shouldn't buy the product. >> i shouldn't use the product. every new yorker using aetna product bass you guys can't handle it. >> people are going to use out of network. you don't want them as patients. >> better to use network providers for the billing purpose. >> no. >> for cost purpose. >> for cost purpose. >> cost doesn't matter. >> you know great doctors in new york city that don't take your insurance? >> yeah a lot of them. >> give me a list. >> i will. >> that's taking new patients. >> yes. >> doesn't matter. >> it doesn't matter.
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>> donald trump is sort of an american equivalent of kim jong-un. he's a buffoon and dangerous. we first covered him under entertainment and then day he proposed to ban 1.6 billion muslim from the united states we started covering him as a clear and present danger with the same editor's note reminding our readers and viewers every moment that he's a birther, he's constantly inciting violence at these rallies and he wants to ban a complete region from this country. >> but the republican establishment is the treatment of the 40% of their base that views mr. trump favorably and just looking totally down at that time entire population. those people are not "huffington post" customers in the first place. i understand that. but i had a problem as a
journalistic entity you were choosing my candidate before i had a chance. >> no -- >> that's definitely an editorial comment that it should be in the entertainment section and i thought it was kind of embarrassing you had to take it back. now he's four out of five of your stories. >> i don't think it was your idea it was the editor's. >> entirely my idea. >> 40% of the country, they are so dumb they are entertaining. >> making a decision that donald trump is dangerous for this country. do you disagree? >> i'm a journalist. >> come on. that's absurd. >> the first time you ever said that. >> i feel that way about bernie sanders. i think bernie sanders is a bigger embarrassment from policy. >> how could you say that? >> easily. because socialism doesn't work. >> a man who believes that barack obama of not born in this
country. that a moan who thinks women who have an abortion should be punished. do you think this man should deserve to be president of the united states with his fingers on the nuclear button. >> the tone of the campaign on the right has been, we should have asked for more but the substance of the debate for me on the left is much more disturbing in terms of socialism and of throwing away or attempting a system -- >> you have -- >> no system lifted more people out of abject poverty -- was is not all fraud. it's not alter bill people. >> you have a daughter. i have two daughters. >> i know. >> isn't it the most embarrassing thing to have her watch a debate with donald trump, to have her watch a rally with donald trump. done he represent everything -- >> we've made this point. the tone on the right has not
been -- could have been a lot better all along and politics is dirty and nasty but the substance on the left, watching hillary clinton all of a sudden change on tpp and fair trade, watching, all of a sudden all of wall street is a fraud. >> you're changing the subject. you're changing the subject. >> i'm not at all. >> yes, you are. >> could i add something. all of this served of how angry americans are at the system. so we have people on both sides. if you look at the demographic and anger it's on both sides. far left and far right and people are upset because we had a denigration of our economy and quality of life in this country as we regressed globally and social determinance how people live. we have to make those investments. >> when you decided to increase minimum wage. >> that's part of -- when you look at the oecd nations and
look at the amount spent on gdp and social programs united states is 12th. 12th. when you look at the split between the two, less than half is on health care every where else but the united states it's 80%. underinvest in social determinance which the middle class took care of by itself for years and now it's gone. >> those are issues that matter to you. what candidate addresses those issues best? >> none of them. it doesn't fit the populace rhetoric that you need to get through the primary to get elected. the primary system is broken. >> does that mean you're not is going to the polls. >> i'll go to the polls. i'll make my choice. i have a right as an american to vote. but in the primaries is where this is being decided and the way the primaries are set up it's not good. we're not talking about the real issues and not having this talk about how do we re-establish the middle class. that's why we did the minimum wage in our organization. we changed benefits.
we got to make that investment and business needs make it now. we can wait for government. >> what about the acknowledgemen you made yesterday about national health. >> we'll engage cities around the country to talk about holistic health not just physical health but how, bike lanes, urban farms, how do we invest in our population, how do we deal with the storm determinance. for a company like ours to invest in sornl determinance of our employees and members it's a better way than them showing up in the health care system and playing big dollars. >> what has happened? >> we have a microsite. people are talking about how they do it. it's not the same for every company. and the expense of how they do it. social determinance issue is a big issue. it's why people are angry. >> as a ceo and you've watched
the way "huffington post" covers trump do you think that media organizations should cover candidates this way >> i think we should all ask questions that are relevant to what people want to hear versus attacks going on both sides. >> there's a dereliction of duty to have major media players like bob woodward conduct a 96 minute interview with donald trump and not ask him about his incitement of violence, not ask him about wanting to ban all muslim, not asking about the fact he questions the legitimacy of the president of the united states. that is not objective journalism. that is simply not doing your job. that's been happening. the media are very responsible for the rise of trump. you know, the republics have been destroyed by demagogues. now we begin to have -- >> everything is in the eyes of the beholder. >> no, i don't agree with that.
>> you watch george stephanopoulos interview hillary clinton or do the debate when he was a hitman for a husband and a chief strategist for the democratic party and doesn't disclose his own donations to the clinton foundation, it's happening on both sides. it's in the eye of the beholder. if i were to interview bernie sanders, i wouldn't know where i would start as someone who covers business news. i wouldn't. there are people on either side. that's how you view the world. i view the world -- bernie sanders sanders world is much more disturbing to me than the donald trump world. >> i disagree with ted cruz, but i don't consider him an unstable, dangerous farce for america. it's a completely different composition. >> you understand there are avid trump supporters. so you're just dismissing 40% of the republic party as racists, bigots -- >> that's not the point.
the point is that the campaign is always about either appealing to the better angels of our nature or our worst and darkest fears. >> every primary season we see the former. every primary season we see a lot of the former and not the latter. >> john kasich is maintaining a civil tone and appealing to the base. but he's not doing well in the polls. >> he has three delegates. >> we will continue this conversation. thank you, mark, who has done a great job staying out of this fray. when we come back, jim cramer will join us live from the new york stock exchange. "squawk box" will be right back. there it is. ♪ ohh. ooh. [ gags ] so when you need a house cleaner or an exterminator, we can help you get the job done right, guaranteed. get started today at angie's list, because your home is where our heart is. ♪
let's get down to the new york stock exchange. jim cramer will wear that hat. oh, boy. jim cramer wearing his villanova hat. so you saw the -- you saw the last minute of that game, jim? >> geez, you know, i would have liked to have gone to sleep, i'm trying to get my voice back. i'm screaming at the tv. the tv was listening to me. i was watching the neutral version, which was only -- that was very pro unc, but very neutral. >> the neutral one was pro unc, too. that's what i heard. >> well, look, there's a lot of
pros from unc in the audience. not from nova. they keep showing raleig raleigh mossamino. it was nova and goliath. >> the guy who goes, look at that big fella! every time they go to break. that big fella! he does it every time. they're all big. >> they're all big. which one? >> this -- i was speaking to richie -- i'm sorry, to ryan's father on sunday. >> were you? >> i was. i love this team. my friend murphy, who was a cheerleader on the '85 team. he said ryan's dad wants to speak to you because you're such a big supporter. all i can tell you is everybody graduates from this team. everybody goes to college. they actually go to school. >> a lot of them are coming back with two red shirt freshmen. they'll be better next year.
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thank you for being with us. congratulations on the new book. >> thank you very much. i brought you a pillow to remind you to sleep your way to the top. >> can that be used for any part of the body? >> any part. because there's nothing better for performance, including sexual performance. wasn't talking about that part. >> all right. thank you. we'll see you guys tomorrow. time for "squawk on the street." ♪ >> good tuesday morning. congratulations to the villanova wildcats and to jim. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with jim cramer, david faber at the new york stock exchange. futures are weak, and if they hold up suggest the worst two-day dec