tv Squawk Box CNBC April 27, 2016 6:00am-9:01am EDT
donald trump. we'll bring you the latest from the campaign trail. it is wednesday, april 27, 2016 and "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ good morning everyone. i'm becky quick. let's take a look at the u.s. equity future this is hour. you can see this morning there are some red arrows. if you look at the nasdaq down about 41 points. dow jones are down and s&p as well. wti at 45.03. brent is sitting just under $47
a barrel. and you have to go back to november so when we've seen prices like this. if you went to bed early donald trump declared himself the presumptive gop nominee. after winning all five states yesterday by huge margins. >> i use the analogy of the boxer. you don't have to wait around for the decision when the boxer knocks out the other boxer. so that is what is it is. >> hillary clinton beating bernie sanders in pennsylvania, maryland, delaware and connecticut. bernie sanders winning rhode island. sanders is showing no sign of dropping out. we'll have more on the race coming up in a few minutes. >> corporate news. comcast reportedly in talks to buy dream works for more than $3 billion. the price represents a big
premium over the current market cap. comcast parent of course of cnbc has enjoyed success with animated films. the company reports earnings before the opening today. we'll bring them to you. dream box is behind "shrek" and "kung fu panda." the company has been on the block for quite some time now. they almost did a deal with hasbro. >> you can see why comcast would want to do it to try to keep up to make sure they have constant content for the parks and things too. >> and animation is one of the biggest businesses. >> not that i follow the stock closely or something.
but i thought it was 61.05. there was a quote that was higher -- i had 60 -- yeah it's 30 cents different than what i thought. i have to factor that into. it's either been -- results have been consistently good the last few quarters. >> results coming in from comcast -- >> -- 7. >> what disney's done with paying and over purchases and. >> and there aren't many of these around. things like that. what is it called? like a? >> content creator? >> no. i don't know. there is a name for it when you are buying something that is rare. that there aren't. >> -- >> yes. >> beach front property.
>> yes. >> i know. i know as a writer it sometimes takes you a while to get to that spot. >> that's not what it is. you will experience this. it's not that far off. and, you know. and you didn't have to go to bed that early. >> i actually saw most -- >> unless you are on "squawk box" you know what happened last night. because i even know -- >> if you were busy and you should a rock. >> they called those things at 8:00. >> right at 8:00. i knew they were going to make those declarations right at 8:00. and then went straight to the reporter at trump headquarters. and it was crickets. and is everyone there excited hearing the news. and they weren't watching. it was like crickets. >> i thought 40 was the maximum. >> 40. >> and he got 50 once in new
york. and that was supposedly a fluke. and he got 60s. >> he's your nominee. >> i'm scared for you. >> he's your nominee. >> i am not endorsing it but -- >> you're fighting on it. >> base on the people who said they will leave if he's electelected. i'm not going to mention any names. he actually said this is going to add to my mojo. ill th elena dunham. >> there are people who have threatened to leave the country and move to alaska. >> rocket ship? outer space? >> if you weren't watching cnn they were probably on twitter last night. a mixed quarter. average monthly active users coming in at 310 million now up
only 3% from the prior year topping streets expectations which had been so low to begin with. but posting second quarter guidance significantly lower than street's estimates. >> i think we're focused on our things. we've never had more focus as a company and development team and we're engineering what we believe to be the best experience out there around life and around what's happening now. and i want to make sure twitter is the place you check to start your day. it will tell you what's important, what matters and that's what we're deriving towards. >> -- periscope before the products launched and said the company would continue looking for other great teams and other products to acquire. >> the beard is back. the himself pster.
did he move to brooklyn or is he live over -- >> san francisco. >> free food. i understand when you are in the playoffs or something, you know. >> you don't want to lose your mojo. >> you don't understand facial hair in. >> the mojo for twitter is definitely you want to shave the beard and put the hat on backwards. the beard is not working. three food stocks today. buffalo wild wings getting clipped. missed expectations across the board. same store sales falling 1.7% at the company-owned restaurants and 2.4% at the fractures-owned locations. . chipotle losses. same sales tumbled nearly 30% from last year. but the chain is still looking ahead, opening 58 new
restaurants during the quarter. the bakery cafe for panera serving upbeat on the top and bottom lines. and increasing full year guidelines. not supposed to eat anything white. no pasta, no bread, no milk. no dairy. >> if says who? >> i don't know. for everything. everything that happens you know you got to watch the sugar in your bloodstream. you got to watch your irritable -- ib -- thing this comes hand in hand with, you know. >> this -- >> no. trying to keep it sharp. trying to keep things running. >> shares of apple, posted a miss on to top and the bottom line. that is being polite. shares were down about 8% for a lost of about 46 billion dollars
in market capitalization. by the way that loss in market capitalization is greater than the total for about 391 of the s&p 500 companies. apple shares down about $7.60 to $96.75. first quarterly sales drop year to year since 2003. that's 13 years. apple shipped 51.2 million iphones. ipad sales at 10.3 million topping expectations of 10.1 million. and 4 million macs, fewer than the 4.5 they were looking for. dividend boost and 50% increase to capital return program. joining us is aaron rakers. manage director at steval
nicholas. we new sales for the iphone were going to come down. revenue was going to come down but it was steeper than anticipated. what happened? >> yeah, i think it is more about the expectations on a forward basis. the guidance was obviously weak at 41 to 43 billion. i think the street was 47 billion. that led us to estimate about 39 million iphones shipped for the current quarter where we were previously modelling more. and i think we knew the two quarters for march and june were going to be challenging. clearly the guidance was the weaker point. on top of that the gross margin guy of 37.5 to 38% was versus the street estimate of north of 39. i think you could adjust that though because there is clearly some channel inventory burn. lot of moving parts.
we still like the set up for the iphone 7 cycle. >> does this raise the question what kind of company apple is? is it no longer growth? market growth for china sales were down 26%. that's eye opening in whether they have reached a saturation point? >> that's a fair point. when we look forward and look back at fiscal 2015, top line revenue close to 28%. we're modelling around 9% this year and return of growth into fiscal 2017. the point on the growth versus the value story, i think we were seeing that in the valuation with shares trading back somewhere 7 times cash. thinking about the iphone seven
cycle next year. we're estimating 9.40 in earnings power. >> i guess we found you. i don't remember whether you had the $200 price target and refused to come down. those guys, you know, we call them down and it's like oh no. dan ernst? brian white? he's not here. is there a brian --. and so many of the apple annians hate me already if price going up forever and forever. and that's thing. you don't have a birthright to do $60 billion every quarter when everybody is nipping at your heels. obviously. there is people trying to get into this business. did you see the chinese gentlemen talk about mocking apple in their technology earlier this week saying the
entire platform for the compared to -- but why do they argue with so many analysts? why? whether do they get paid for? to think that all the trees just grow to the sky and there is no law of large numbers. they had the stock doubling to where it it would have had a $1.2 trillion market cap. and all they could keep saying over and over time is -- that's all i could say. please do not discount because i'm -- >> i'm not discounting anything you're saying. the question is, is this the trough though? it is just a question given the cycle of these phones. >> now that is the question. and we heard even talking about this saying we knew this was going to be down or.
now from the future here what if we don't get anything great until there is a car. >> this idea that the next great apple product if there is one is four years out and it is the form of a car. >> i don't come to you for non conventional typically. but do you think it is the trough? >> i think an relative basis -- >> i do. i think -- >> so you think it is the trough? >> yeah i do. i think a lot -- >> okay. go on. >> the work we do in terms of the install base and the opportunity that sets up for the iphone 7 given that we like the cycle going in. apple has a 95% plus loyalty rate in terms of upgrade rate on
iphones and -- >> two questions. first what is your price target? >> $120, ten times x cash. >> what was your high? what did you come down from in. >> what were around 135 -- >> when it comes to iphone 7 do you think the take rate looks anything like the take rate on the 6? and the reason i ask is because there was such a monumental shift in the form factor in terms of the size of the screen that there were really people upgrading not just from the 5 but the 4. but if the form factor isn't
substantially different do you think people wait it out? >> to be clear when we lock at numbers going into the next fiscal year, we're roughly around 75 million units. the take rate on the iphone 6 in late 2016 was around 14%. growing to their pre iphone 6 install basis. we're clearly assuming a lower upgrade rate. >> thanks for joining us today. >> thank you. >> we have onto analyst coming up later in the show that we've never heard of. that is fresh. so isn't sort of being blind sided by any of this. there is still a $200 price
target out there. would you lower your price target. or were you just that dog gone market is wrong. >> at 200 i think i'd lower. >> he's not in a terrible place. i do think that on a relative basis where we are today would be surprised -- >> what? >> more people would buy the 7, the next version of the phone. >> a lot of people have to buy it. that's the thing. when it was really humming there was a lot of things going right. a lot of price to perfection. >> and there was -- >> take the cash out and icahn was right there too. >> so what do you do with the cash? that's the fundamental question. >> what could they buy? >> anything you want. >> basically anything you want.
what do you want? >> i'd probably buy comcast for 235 billion. >> you think? >> there yougo. >> and i'd finance the rest of the purchase because i'd paid 400 billion i think for it. >> and a fee for that. >> a giving a premium. shareholder. >> -- >> -- including the battle ground of pennsylvania. john harwood joins us now with more. john, yeah, you didn't have to stay up very late last night to see what was gonna happen, did you? >> nope. we've been slip sliding towards this result for some time of a
trump-clinton general election. and last night moved us a giant leap closer. first on the republican side, the stop trump movement has talked about the ceiling on his support of 40, 35, 2. he busted through that. over 40 everywhere. every 60 in delaware and rhode island. and hillary clinton wins 4 out of 5 with robust majority. she loses rhode island to bernie sanders but bernie sanders needs to win big in every state to try to overcome her lead in the proportional delegate allocation system. none of this makes on these -- last night makes either of these two candidates the nominee. hillary clinton is not over the 2300 delegates she needs but she's on her way to do innidoin that. and on the republican side there is still some flickering possibility of holding donald trump below the 1237 he needs
for a first ballot nomination. but he still has a solid chance of doing that. california on june 7th is where he has the potential for wrapping up that nomination and by declaring himself the presumptive nominee on the heels of these results. donald trump is trying to break the will of the optiposition. and when you look out weak cruz and kasich were across the states it looks he's going to succeed. i don't think there is a lot of optimism that donald trump is going to be stopped at this point, guys. >> if you want to win indiana. and the great sports movie, gene hackman, you know, "hoosiers." they played a lot of hoop hoops. or would it now be referred to as they play a lot of rings? did you see that? that ted cruz referred to the
basketball hoop as a basketball ring. >> no. >> oh yes. >> he didn't do that. >> and it's all over twitter this morning. >> this must be be bobby knight is campaigning for donald trump. >> this i think if you have to win indiana and you are standing in indiana where the hoosiers are, i think they might take your name off the ballot. endear yourself to the voters. >> you have never heard lebron at the top of the key saying i'm going take it to the ring? >> ha ha. >> i watched two of the speeches last night. ted cruz's speech and bernie sanders speech. seemed remarkably similar. they both blame the media for why they are not going to win.
and both say they have a much better chance to beat the opposition. and how successful is that argument at this point? >> the argument is not true first of all. second of all it is what happens when losers whine to the media. these are lame complaints and they are -- it is not correct that ted cruz and bernie sanders would be stronger general election opponents. i suppose nobody can know the future for sure but there is no reason to think that bernie sanders would be stronger general election candidate than hillary clinton, whatever match ups say now. and ted cruz is not the -- the polls do not show ted cruz as a strong general election candidate. so take it with a grain of salt. and certainly republican voters are taking it with a grain of salt. >> thank you sir.
joining us. one more this year steve? >> one, maybe two. >> rate hikes? >> yeah. they said it would be urgent, seam urgent if they were to move in april. so it is going to seam urgent any time over the course of a year. tough uk vote on the referendum right after the meeting. so june is difficult. unless they are taking chances or the polls are very far apart. >> the lecture in chief delivered the speech over here. the same speech he gives over here. now they are going to probably go. >> well the polls did move in the other direction to be fair. >> they did?
>> yeah. if it was this, if it was other things. the polls moved slightly away from the idea that there will be a break from the european union. >> this tightening cycle that we had. how many have we had? >> one. >> feasibly it could be none this year. >> steve leisman made the point we're now entering the longest period we've ever seen between a rate hike moving cycle and i guess that raises the question was it a mistake to go? >> i guess wire going to find out in time. they are focuses more on developing. >> with good reason. >> absolutely. and take a look. there is never a good time to set off certain triggers and you can look at the very direct line they have made between chinese currency risks and the u.s. and if you run monetary policy with these sorts of issues in mind,
the problem is delayed. and it can become bigger. so you look at where we were in the past. and not to say we're repeating all this right now. the data have been modest in terms of u.s. strength. but it is still an issue for us if we run monetary policy with the rest of the world in mind and those risks build. >> do you agree with that? and do you think the fed missed its chance a year or two ago to get up to 1 or 2%? >> it is hard to say what the -- is. i think the dollar has done a considerable amount of heavy lifting for them. equivalent too roughly six hikes. the cumulative tightening has been quite considerable. >> 106, 107 and the euro back to 113 now.
>> i think proponents of a june hike or even april will say that financial conditions are back to where they were early december and they were comfortable lifting rates. the dollars back to where it was in october. but my problem with all of this is that this is all built on a foundation of a much more dovish rate outlook. december, october the market was priced for three hike this is year. can the fed put a hike back on a table for june or even september. >> it's almost full employment. and if we are going to see a victory tour for the current administration and about economic rebounds and activity, what kind of victory tour can it be if you can't get out of your own way at 0% interest rates? what is the real story of whether this economy is above or not? we can't afford 1 or 2% interest? >> i think the real story is the
supply side is a problem. and in the u.s. we've managed 2% gdp growth in the cycle and taken out a considerable amount of excess capacity. look at the kploimt rate. we've cut it in half. so telts you potential growth has expanded at 1% in the past five years. and that is the real story. and if potential gdp really is closer to 1 than 2% that means the equilibrium real rate is much lower than what the fed assumes we'll -- >> even that would be 1 and 3/4 percent or something like that. >> does mean we just have to change our expectations of what's possible in the world? >> just think about what's going on in the world. 30% of sovereign bonds across the world trade on negative yields. you may more than your future catch flows and return of principle. there is tremendous stretching
in the rest of the world to provide accommodation and it is feeding back and doing heavy lifting of tightening. but as you said, janet yellen pointed to the fact that we back off and financial conditions eased around the world. everything is going well now. but that is putting off issues to the future the problems build abroad or here. >> we used to assume that we didn't have to think that the best we could do was how the rest of the world was. we used to think that we were exceptional. >> -- basis. >> exceptional on the relative basis. >> that is exceptional for the world. and look at our interest rates at. >> -- be doing better if we were 3 or 4%. >> we all wish we could grow stronger. absolutely. >> yes we can. another factor we'll never know about. thank you steven. thank you. coming up.
slumping sales in china helped end the streak in quarterly revenue growth. and then later, former texas governor rick perry is here to talk about the race for the white house. a ted cruz backer. obviously he's from texas. but we'll see whether he still is after last night. also the climate for business in america right now. and the s&p 500 winners and losers. ♪
time now for the executive edge. shares of apple under pressure this morning. the company's earnings missed on the top and bottom line. big part of the story is china. sales fell 26% from last year. joined from beijing with more. i just want to know, we still have some comments last week that there is technology out there that at least one individual thinks apple is even behind the curve on this. and doesn't surprise me. you know, there is always a better mouse trap coming along it seems like. >> well that is actually what was on social media today. a lot of people were talking about la eco chwhich is a compa, kind of the founder of netflix in china. and he called apple outdated and
said the market is moving differently. from his perspective he was showing me some of his phones and you can watch on his phone nine different broadcast channels at the same time. so he's saying it is all about content now. you are seeing that with xiaomi as well. la eco's founder is saying he thinks the future is more about the content is apple is not only having a problem because they are more seen as the hardware company with some services but also facing challenges because of the government here. the government recently starting champing down on some of apple's services, itunes and ibooks. and regulators came in and as part of a greater sweep of the internet clamps down on those services. so he is saying that the future in china is now more all about the services and especially
content. and that is one of the reasons he thinks apple is going to face a lot of challenges and that it is as he said outdated. >> wow. i wish i could see into the future. i'd like to go even two years. i'd really like to go 10 or 20. >> about the super bowl or. >> to about this. or what we say. i guess it is going to be an internet of things. we're going to know about everything i uh-oh, i have a little mutation in one of these genes. got to get that checked. and there's going to be a lot of innovations and awesomeness. who should we buy? >> what should we buy?
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policy meeting today. and in earnings central we're going to be hearing from boeing, comcast, and other technologies before the bell. then after closing, facebook, paypal and marriott. >> and pearson testifies before a senate panel this afternoon. pearson says the company was to aggressive in pursuing price increasing and on monday named form former parrigo ceo joseph papa as the ceo.
>> barred in 2010 for a alleged role in a pay to play scheme. the about face now coming after two commissioners objected to the a deal. says he's no longer interest in restatement. he's pull that request. little bit of an interesting back and forth. >> he's a morning voe. guest more than are the -- they are political appointees aren't they? >> yes. it's very political. >> -- no a republican? >> no. one republican, one democrat. so it is not a party line issue. at least at the moment. but you could argue that the two commissioners are on the -- in the same way people think that bernie is on one end and donald trump is on the other. you might say these are not the folks in the middle.
>> definitely -- it is a new york story. definitely. can remember the woody allen new york story. that that was an actually movie i think. >> a huge media meister for a while. >> couple of stocks to watch today. barclays quarterly profit dropping 33%. results hit by weak performances in its investment banking division and also losses as it continues to sell unwanted assets. however the shares are getting a little after the lender said that it is in talks to sell its french retail unit. although now down about 35 cents. shares of ebay beating consensus on increase in sells.
gives investors hopes the turnaround efforts are working there. >> and at&t earnings such and such. the. >> and u.s. steel. sales fell 30%. u.s. steel is also filing a trade complaint with regulators against the big chinese producers. i swear you could have read this same story any time in the last 20 years. accusing of conspiring and steeling trade secrets. coming up. we're going to talk to an analyst and asking the person if ceo jack dorsey's focus on live events can maybe keep twitter
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users together on the platform during live events. >> life is not just about live streaming but it's around the live events and we think twitter is better positioned than anyone else out there because of the people on it who are tweeting every day about what they're seeing and thinking and about what's happening right now. because we're public, because we're distributed, because we're realtime and because we're simple, that allows people to see the world faster than any other platform. >> let's bring in ron josie, senior internet analyst at jnp securities. how disappointed are you? >> hi, andrew. disappointed is a relative term. the engagement numbers, adding 5 million new users in the quarter was in line to expectations. the biggest surprise was just that advertising demand fell off as much as it did in the quarter and the acknowledgement that, what used to be their bread and butter, promoted tweets are quote-unquote legacy products and newer ad products like video, and installs are taking
share. the biggest surprise was just that advertising demand fell as much as it did. >> i am looking at a headline, the verge.com, part of vox, with the headline nothing twitter is doing is working, with the sub-head jack squat. is that overstating the case? >> probably. it's a little -- it's a little over the top. there is a lot of things that seem to be working. it was good to hear some encouraging signs around the on-boarding process and enhanced time line. a lot of things need to go better. good to see profitability better but if domestic monthly active users are not growing. one cue is a very -- a very popular quarter because of a lot of national events. the oscars, the ncaa tournament. all the national events came out and you would have expected to see better overall miu growth.
a lot of things can go better. the biggest surprise on the street was the advertising falloff that really began in march. >> how much of this is about not just attracting the big advertisers, which i think they have done a decent job at so far, but really creating a self-serve platform that works for everybody so that you can actually get all sorts of small businesses jumping on the band wagon? >> that's exactly right. remember, twitter launched their new self-service platform i think in 3q. went live globally. that, in theory, is what got a lot of people excited. we've seen what self-service platforms can do for advertising with what's happening at google and certainly on facebook. that's the future. that's where things have been going. twitter is still very much a brand-based business. and so i think one of the takeaways from last night is just that, okay, brand fell off, and self-serve or direct
response, snbs are not necessarily looking to twitter to spend. one of the reasons why is maybe i don't think they have as good of tools for planning, buying and measuring their ad products. it will come sooner or later. it's a matter of time. exactly right. we would hope the direct response service and self-service platforms go stronger. >> how do you feel with what facebook has been doing to steal market share or change the narrative around twitter? launching facebook live, bringing celebrities onto the service, trying to take advantage of instagram in a more meaningful way than they have thus far. i would argue turning instagram to some degree into a mini image-based version of twitter. >> i completely agree. facebook is our top pick. just got back from f8 two weeks ago. they're one of the few public companies that talks about a ten-year plan. we see where they're going for the next one to three to five-plus years. and they are approaching the
business in a methodical, calculated way in a way that users -- it's resonating with them. if i am twitter looking back and you say a twitter is a one to many platform, public versus facebook or instagram are more private. or can be private depending. twitter is looking at ways to increase engagement. >> how long has the honeymoon for jack dorsey last? when do people say we have to try something new and do something drastic? >> we're a few quarters in of him taking the reasoins officia as ceo. there were some improved statistics there. but covering two companies, at least being the ceo of two companies, a lot on his plate for sure. >> we'll leave it there, ronald. appreciate it. >> thank you. earnings just minutes away. expecting reports from comcast. we'll hear from glaxosmithkline
. apple shares bruised and battered. company posted its first revenue decline in 13 years. sales of the flagship iphone falling for the first time ever. big trouble for the tech giant in china. we'll go inside the stock slide and get tim cook's comments to cnbc straight ahead. clean sweep for trump. big night for hillary clinton. we'll break down the race for the white house with former texas governor and presidential kentucky der candidate rick perry. reports out that comcast in talks to buy dreamworks
animation. the details on that potential tie-up as the second hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ you close the door ♪ on so many men >> live from the beating heart of business, new york city, this is "squawk box." ♪ welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with rebecca quick and andrew ross sorkin. a couple of big hours coming your way. nasdaq's bob greifeld here to talk earnings in a minute. guest host governor rick perry is waiting in the wings. next hour, a rare squawk appearance. travis kalanic. >> i like colonic. >> it's kalanic. >> uber ceo joins us on set along with aryana huffington. she is going on the board,
right? maybe. it's an idea. john chambers, executive chairman of cisco. earnings from the mothership. the dow component utx came in with earnings of -- one second. let me double-check. 147. $1.47 versus the 1$1.39 that th street was anticipating. giving guidance for the full year. seeing revenues of $56 billion to $58 billion. the street is in the middle with an estimate of $56.99 billion. looking for a full year earnings per share of $6.60 versus the street's estimate of $6.50. the shares are still unchanged. but we'll continue to keep an eye on that. we have results out from our parent company, comcast, coming in with earnings of 84 cents a share for the first quarter.
5 cents better than the street had been anticipating. revenue beating forecast. of course, when it comes to comcast there are a lot of other numbers that the street tends to look at. if you're looking at operating cash flow, those results came in a little better than expected too. they talk about some of the breakdown for this. the cable, they say, had an outstanding quarter. this is impressive. grew subscribers across every product line as they added 269,000 new customer relationships. that's a 36% increase over a year earlier. and that gets rid of some of the naysayers who had been so concerned about cable nevers or cable cutters. talked about how they added 53,000 video customers and achieved what they call their best first quarter video customer additions in nine years. high speed internet grew. achieved best results in four years on that front. you can break through a lot of the numbers. they also talk about how free cash flow for the first quarter, $2.8 billion down 12% reflecting growth and consolidated cash
flow offset by higher capex as they invested in businesses like x 1. wireless gateways and businesses. cable network's revenue up 4% to $2.5 billion. >> okay. other big earnings story of the morning is apple. shares down sharply. earnings to revenue falling short. the tech giant posting its foyefirst year over year sales drop in 13 years. iphone sales declining for the first time ever. more later. twitter out with disappointing resulted. adjusted earnings topping estimates. revenue missed consensus. here is jack dorsey on user growth. >> we're total audiences is massive. over 800 million people are experiencing tweets on a regular basis. that's just immense. you can't go to any media, see any television screen or outdoor space or billboard without
seeing a hash tag or app. that's all twitter. >> ebay beating consensus on an increase in sales giving investors hope that the turn-around efforts are working. chipotle posting its first loss ever. same-store sales sliding after the food-borne illnesses last year. buffalo wild wings, same-store sales fell. taat&t's profit increased helped by the acquisition of directv. nasdaq adding to the list, just out with its quarterly results. the stock has been on fire. up more than 10% this year and trading around the 52-week high. for more on the numbers we bring in bob greifeld. are you doing a victory lap? ceo of nasdaq? >> it's an endless series of quarters. one good quarter begets another one, hopefully.
>> what's happening? >> we're doing well. we have picked the proper businesses to diversify in. in the businesses we're competing in, we're gaining share. between the two factors it's been a good quarter. 14% increase compared to average s&p company declining 7%. we like that. >> yet the ipo market is, dare i say, close to dead. >> it has been. certainly it shows the diversification of our model. we had a great quarter without any real ipos. ten for the quarter. that's sub par. we see some signs of life. 120 ipos on filing to come public. whether they all make it out, we don't know. with secureworks and others planning -- >> secureworks has been a disaster. >> it got out, right, and that does help. certainly we like -- >> that was the ugly situation, no? >> it could have been better, but it did get out. >> what was wrong with that? >> you have to understand in the first quarter we had a lot of
ipos that tried to get out but didn't. >> that was -- those were a couple of hairy days. >> we could have done better. again, the point is, in the first quarter, we had ipos that could not get out. now we have those that have come out and we're going to see -- >> when you say on an ipo you could have done better, what's that mean? >> when you look at the first-day price, second-day price, you would like it to price up. >> then, when you look back and say, okay, was there a lesson there, for the exchange, is there something that nasdaq could have done differently? is there something a banker should have done differently. >> i'm talking about the ecosystem, in terms of how our systems worked and how we process the orders and it's a fairly active ipo. we did very well. clearly we care about the ecosystem. your broad comment is what's going to make the ipo market more resilient or more active. first you have to get companies
get out. i think there are two broad categories. we have to have really companies that have strong economic performance and when you look at biotech, which continues to be strong, companies that have pure innovation can continue to get out. >> bob, you probably need a little more stability in the markets too. we've seen some incredible volatility just over the first quarter into the early part of the second quarter. >> we saw that in january/possible february. we have a mismatch because the indices are high and then the market tends to be more buoyant. >> when you talk to ceos of potential public companies, do they worry that, if they start the process, all of a sudden you'll see another collapse in stock prices which puts them in a bad position? >> i would say anybody who is thinking of floating the company is worried about everything, right. it's a difficult time for them. and there is a bit of emotion through the process on the investor side and the company side. that's why windows will open and shut. >> how much do you think the political cycle is playing into
whatever instability you think is out there? >> i don't think it's a major factor right now. i think investors are certainly looking for the returns in tshot and medium -- >> you said you stayed up late last night watching the returns. >> yes. >> you look at where the political process is and say to yourself, as ceo of a major exchange, is there a candidate out there that's more attractive? you don't have to tell me your own politics, but to the extent that you think one candidate is more attractive than the other for purposes of the economy and for your business, that person would be whom? >> i would say this. listening to all the political debates, i think what's missing in a large sense is the great innovative, entrepreneurial culture in this country and more singing the praises of capitalism, right. you just don't hear enough about that. i was at your conference last week. it's a tremendous uplift to see all these young entrepreneurs wanting to help change the world
and advance their business models. we need to hear more of that from the politicians. this country is built on capitalism. we just -- >> are you surprised you don't hear it more from donald trump? >> i think you will. i don't want to speak for donald, certainly, but as the election waxes on and you get past the primary season, i think you'll see, you know, the benefits of capitalism being extolled by the -- >> they've both done very well. one is a billionaire and one is worth 200, 300 billion. one with a government foundation but they've both done well in this system. i like hillary talking about donald flying around on private jets and living in expensive markets. >> capitalism is a great thing. >> hypocrisy there. we're done. coming up, donald trump and hillary clinton scoring huge victories in the northeast last night, moving them both significantly closer to being the nominees for their party.
even more since some of the economic sanctions against the country were lifted in january production and exports have climbed sharply. our chief international correspondent is in iran with a look at the efforts of that country to try to ramp up production. michelle. >> reporter: hey there, becky. the government of iran wants the world to know it is back in the oil exporting business. earlier this week the oil ministry said they'll be back up to pre-sanction levels by the end of june. if that is true, and there are a lot of skeptics, that would be incredible. they seem very eager to prove it. they gave cnbc access to the island of kharg, about 25 miles off the coast of iran and it's extremely rare for journalists to be able to see it. american journalists, workers there said they didn't recall a time when that had happened. consider this place iran's cash register. solely dedicated to exporting iranian oil. the oil is sent to kharg and
placed in storage tanks and they pipe it to tankers which arrive on a daily basis. when the toughest of the sanctions were put into place in 2011 iran's exports fell sharply. they had been exporting 2.2 billion barrels a day. that sunk to 700,000. their production was impacted dramatically as well. now, reuters thinks that they're exporting about 1.75 million barrels per day based on international shipping data. one insight into the intense and bitter rivalry between iran and saudi arabia was on full display out on kharg. this tank has persian gulf painted on it in huge letters. the director of the facility told me they did this on purpose so that when tankers pull into the island they see it. that's because the saudis call the huge body of water the arabian gulf which unfewinfuria
the iranians. three english language newspapers in iran. the predictions about oil output the big lead this week. >> 4 million barrels per day. wow. >> michelle, thank you. we'll see you soon, hopefully. after a landslide victory in five northeastern states a confident donald trump declared himself the party's presumptive nominee during a party peaspeect trump tower. >> if you have a football team and you're winning and you get to the super bowl, you don't change your quarterback. i am not changing. >> he picked up delegates with sweeps. hillary clinton won four out of five states. joining us now is former texas
governor and former republican presidential candidate, rick perry. will we ever see you standing next to chris christie and behind donald trump? >> i'm sure i'll stand by whomever our nominee is. i'm not quite into the presumptive category yet that it's donald trump. >> if it is, you would stand behind him? >> absolutely. >> so the -- the way to victory is shrinking for ted cruz -- >> it is. but we have known that all along. i think the issue is are we going to a contested convention. i think i have thought for some time that that was where we were headed. >> let's say it's 1100 or somewhere close to -- >> interesting he would use that analogy about the super bowl. i use the analogy that, just because you're leading in the middle of the fourth quarter that somehow or another the game is over -- the game is not over
yet. >> i understand how it works. but what happens if you -- if -- say you're right and it's 1,050. >> it goes to a contested convention. >> where do they go from there? why wouldn't they somehow try to get up to the 1,237 for trump instead of -- >> that's the reason they play the game. that's the reason they play. it's the reason they have -- >> if you pick kasich instead -- >> but you're going to lose the election when 40% of the trump people don't show up, right? >> listen, i don't buy into all of the scenarios of somehow or another, if you don't pick this individual, you're going to lose the -- you know, you can square around. really, you can argue this thing all the way. i just know how the rules are set up. and if you're not going to follow the rules, why are we a rule of law country? it's like tom brady being upset about the way that the judges -- when he signed the contract to play with the nfl, you gave
roger goodell the ability to make these decisions. and so, if you didn't want that, don't sign the contract. >> right. >> if you don't want to play by the rules of the republican party. don't run in the primary. >> but we also -- >> it's not the horse in the race. these are the rules. >> the other side would say, if you have got millions more votes and you've got twice as many states that you won in the -- the spirit of the nominating process, the spirit, not the law. >> sounds like al gore grousing about not being the president of the united states. >> you pick the guy who got the most votes to be the republican nominee, you don't -- >> are you saying you can have both sides? >> your side is saying it's the rules -- the rules say if you have 1,236 and you go with the letter of the law you can give it to john kasich. but people would say that is probably not the spirit of the law in the nominating process to give it to a guy who won three
states and has a tenth as many delegates. that's not what people think of when they entering into the nominating process. >> we'll see after indiana. >> the guys should have known it was called a basketball hoop and not a basketball ring. did you see that? >> no. >> indiana. >> the movie "hoosiers." he said the height of the basketball ring around the country is ten feet. >> if we're going to start to go back and criticizing people for using -- >> we're not going back. it was less than 24 hours ago. >> you don't think a contested convention ultimately breaks the party? >> no, i don't. not at all of the these are the rules. this is the way it's set up. people are upset in this country, i get that. they're mad about what's going on in washington, d.c. >> right. >> and they feel like that the whole system is rigged against them, that kids are graduating from college and they can't get a job. >> they think the convention process is rigged against them.
>> the rules have -- have already been -- are they arcane or different? yeah. there are a lot of different rules for every kind of organization i've ever been involved with. >> let's talk about what got us to this situation, because the rules have been out there for decades and decades and decades, and we haven't tested them because we haven't been in a position where you've got somebody like donald trump or a bernie sanders who are huge outsider candidates who have really stepped into a position like this. >> well, ted cruz is not exactly mr. insider. >> this is true. but what's going on with the voter, with the electorate right now, that makes them so angry? >> i think they have seen what's going on. the middle class in particular. when you think about the diminishing of their wealth, of their ability to raise their standard of living at all across -- as a matter of fact, i would suggest to you the middle class has gone down over the course of the last eight years. they're really mad about that. >> in terms of their standard of
living or in terms of their feeling of security? >> i think it's both, not only their able to save or to be able to acquire more or to be able to -- most people feel that their children are not going to have as good a future as what they've had. >> and they can't retire anytime soon. >> all of that is really grinding on them. it's made them incredibly upset. they are mad. when you do -- i mean, i speak for myself, when i've gotten mad a time or two, i've made some irrational decisions that i looked back on and went, wait a minute, maybe that wasn't the best decision. i thought from the get-go that this would be an election where experience really mattered. when you're talking about someone that's going to be running the most important country in the world, the experience of someone, you know, a jeb bush, bobby jindal, squawker. rick perry, one of those individuals would probably be who we settled on, a governor
with a proven track record. >> we know now that that's not -- >> it's not the case. they're like, you know what, we don't want anybody who has been involved in that business at all. >> that's why we keep coming back to the idea that what put a lot of the republicans that are voting for trump in that position is like a reince priebus or the republican establishment, and that's just the only point i am making. if after all of this, if we're in this position because of that, and then you have those same guys saying, look, we don't like the way this turned out, we're going to put in our guy here or someone that we think is better as a king-maker, i just don't think it's the right -- it's not going to bode well for the general election. and i think you know that. i know you're from texas and everything, but i mean, one of these -- a hand to play. there is a hand that includes bobby jindal and jeb bush. that hand got thrown away a long time ago. the only three cards you have left are trump, kasich and cruz. >> i agree. actually the only two cards you
have left are trump or cruz. >> if we had a kasich surrogate on he would be talking exactly like this. >> really? >> yes. >> they'll point to polls that show bernie sanders does this, kasich does this and cruz does this and they'll be saying i do better in a general election. >> you think kasich or cruz could be a vice president to trump? do you think any of these wounds can actually be healed? >> oh, sure. >> really? jeb bush cannot be vice president to -- to donald trump. there is no way. >> there's a difference between whether someone would take it and whether they could be one. >> i just wonder that there's so much bad blood this time around. >> that's my point. >> what about cruz talking about carly fiorina? make any sense to you? >> yeah. listen, there is some great talent. when you look at the 17, 16, however many, there were some amazing talent in that pool. and the argument was made the other day, had there been 16
people running in the democrat side bernie sanders would be very close to picking up the nomination today. it's really an intriguing argument, but i think there is a little truth to it. >> trump might be able to win texas with you as a vice president. >> i don't think so. >> he wouldn't be able to win texas? >> no. >> never? >> with you as a vice president? >> trump will win texas either way. >> i'm sorry. i thought you were talking about a primary. >> we have to go. governor, stay with us. >> a republican will win texas. . aflac... and major medical? major medical boyyy, yeah! berr, der berrp... i help pay the doctor, ain't that enough for you? there's things major medical doesn't do. aflac! pays cash so we don't have to fret. something families should get! like a safety net! even helps pay deductibles, so cover your back, with...
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welcome back to "squawk box." among the stories front and center at this hour. nbc parent company comcast in talks to buy movie studio dreamworks. price tag more than $3 billion. comcast would combine dreamworks with the universal studios division. both stocks higher than expected. comcast reported better than expected earnings this morning. mortgage applications falling 4.1% last week according to the mortgage bankers association.
new purchase applications and refinancing activity fell. outgoing valeant ceo mike pearson having a meeting today. saying he regrets the purchase of two heart drugs and rising the prices. that later on cnbc. earnings out from dow component boeing. missing estimates by 8 cents. profit of $1.74 a share. boeing took a 24-cent charge for engineering changes to its refueling tanker program. that's the third charge for that program which now the charges total $960 million. boeing did not, however, change its full-year guidance. can you see at this point, the street seems to be reacting in stride. stocks down 1.5%. the dow component looks like it's trading at $131.24. microsoft suing the justice department over customer privacy arguing that it's unconstitutional of the government to ask for access to individuals' personal data without their knowledge.
joining us is the company's president and chief legal officer brad smith. he is in washington at tech net day as a gathering of executives and lawmakers on technology policy. brad, first up, why is the move necessary? what has the government been asking for? >> well, what we're here today with tech net is to talk about a broad range of technology issues. one of the important ones is people's privacy. the case that we brought recently is really all about a situation where the government is obtaining people's emails from data centers, from the cloud, with non-disclosure orders that mean that over half the time people will never know that the government has their email, whether they're an individual or a business. we think that goes too far and really infringes on people's constitutional rights. >> is this something that the government is doing on a regular basis beyond their need to try and investigate for security issues for the nation? >> well, when we pulled the data at microsoft, we found that just at our company we had received
over 5200 of these warrants over the last 18 months. we found that half of them had these gag or secrecy orders and two-thirds of that half had no expiration date at all. so it really has become in our view too routine and too widespread. >> it's interesting, to put this in the context of bill gates' comments around the apple department of justice situation. the way he kind of looked at it is, if this were a bank the bank would be required to turn over its customers' information. what do you think of his stance and does it match up with what microsoft the company is doing? >> i actually think these things absolutely do match up. all of this needs to be put in a broader context. the world is moving towards cloud computing. data is being stored not just digitally but in data centers. there are times when the government is going to need access to data. it will go to court to get it. but people's rights continue to
matter, just as they were when information was stored on paper. now the data is in the cloud. people have a right to know, certainly eventually, that the government has their emails. >> brad, how do you feel about the decision by the fbi not to share, or at least their recommendation not to share with apple exactly how they hacked the phone that was involved in the san bernardino shootings? >> i am not familiar with all of the details in that case. i guess i would step back a bit. as an industry, as a country, we're working through a set of complicated issues that go to when law enforcement can get information, how people's privacy rights will be protected, fundamentally how do we preserve the balance that we've had in this country for over two centuries? and i think we're all trying to get ultimately to a position where people feel that that long-term balance is preserved. >> in terms of preserving that, part of the balance -- you, by
the way, i mean, microsoft has been very aggressive about trying to protect some of -- not only some of these rights but certainly, you know, protect against some of these subpoenas and other things. there is the little bit of a question -- rick perry is here. i'm curious about that. who should we, the public, trust more? part of this is a debate about whether you trust the government or you trust microsoft or do you trust apple. right? >> that's an interesting question. i will suggest to you that the american people don't trust either. >> right. >> at this particular point in time. i mean -- >> i think -- >> brad? >> yeah. i actually think you raise a very interesting point. and i think fundamentally people should trust themselves, but in order to trust themselves, they need to have enough information to know how their data is being handled. and that's what we're fundamentally standing up for. greater transparency. i think our industry has been moving to provide more information, and i think that's a good thing. we think the government should
provide more information in an appropriate way. then people can evaluate that information for themselves. they deserve that right. >> because of the way the apple situation was settled, it kind of takes that off the table. we thought at one point that maybe this would go through the court system, maybe have congress weigh in on this. what's your hope for on outcome? would it be to have congress weigh in and try to come up with rules of the road? >> absolutely we need more action by congress and by the white house. there will be more action by courts. i mean, the end of the apple case sort of brought a chapter to an end, but this book has a lot of chapters still to be added to it. we'll be working through this as a society over the next few years, and we're going to be working on it in a way that, frankly, brings together a number of strands, from how we have economic policy to create technology jobs in this country, how we create trust in technology for people, and how we educate the next generation of people in this country so
they have the skills needed to fill the jobs that our industry is creating. ultimately all of these things actually need to come together. >> brad, i want to thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. apple, as we have been talking about, posting top and bottom-line results that missed analysts' expectations. reading this. revenue declining 13%. 13% year over year. stock at this hour indicated down below 100. been there before. it's bounced off of the mid 90s and gone back up. we'll see whether the same thing will happen. joining us to break down the results. sherry scribner. senior analyst. in your view -- it's been here before recently. down from 130. got into the mid 90s, went back up. back into the 100 and teens for a while. is it the same situation this time, or is there a 70 or 80 number in the cards? >> yeah.
i mean, i think there is some support for the stock in the low 90s. that's what we have seen in the past. we are in a little bit of a different situation now with the revenue coming down for the first time in, what -- forever or apple really. looking at a quarter going forward where revenue will be down in the mid teens. so it's a little bit different. revenue potential is slowing here. i do think there is some valuation support for the stock as you get into the low 90s, definitely into the $80 range. >> the next thing that happens that, you know, that gets the company to consistently do $55 billion a quarter -- >> yeah. >> -- i mean, that's -- >> hard. >> we say it. $55 billion a quarter. i can say it in less than a second, right. >> yeah. >> it's a lot of stuff, isn't it? >> it's a lot of stuff. i think that's the problem apple has going forward is that they're already in one of the biggest technology markets in the world, the smartphone market. and the smartphone market is
slowing and they've maxed out their share. they'd argue that they have not but they've kind of peaked at share. >> this all along has been an argument. why isn't someone working on a better mouse trap, smart people around the world, to try to leapfrog the next -- whatever the next technology is? it's not steve jobs anymore there. it's just normal human beings trying to figure this out. >> the next mousetrap, we don't know what that will be. >> that's what i mean. >> it has to be these creative people thinking about that. at this point we don't know what might come out of apple but there is nothing to indicate there is anything significant in the near future. >> one analyst yesterday said the only thing is the car. >> that's a ways off. >> tim cook said last night this too will pass. what do you think? >> we've continued to say we're concerned about the slowing in the smartphone growth and their
share. they have high asp products. we think it's going to be hard for them to grow going forward. >> which means you value the company how? is it seven times earnings it should be trading if it's not going to be a growth company? >> i don't think it's been a growth company for a while. it's been a trading stock. you see that with the ups and downs. we still look at p.e. as a good multiple to use for valuing the company. many talk to us on the buy side of using a market multiple. but some companies this big just can't trade in a market multiple. >> let me ask you a steve jobs question. is there an innovation problem at apple? when you look at -- in a post steve jobs world. do you think if steve jobs were there today somehow it would be different for this company? >> it's a hard question to answer but i do think there was
something very special about steve jobs. somehow he was able to have this vision and get people to come along to create these amazing new products. he had sort of a visionary-ness to him that i don't know that we have there necessarily now. there are a lot of really talented people at apple but you haven't really seen that vision-ness out of apple. >> it's always a hard act to follow. i look at trying to do $55 billion every quarter. you talk about a multiple -- >> yeah. >> -- i understand trying to figure out where the multiple should be. but i don't know what the earnings are going to be. i don't care about the multiple. the earnings could go down in half if someone takes over their market. >> yeah. >> i don't know how that's a relevant metric at all which is what i've been telling these analysts for years. anyway, thank you. coming up, former chief of staff to vice president joe biden will join us to discuss the race for the white house. the delegate drama and the beltway buzz. back in a moment.
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the democratic side hillary clinton getting four out of five states. joining us now the former white house chief of staff to vice president joe biden, ron klain. now executive vice president and general counsel at revolution ventures. of course, thinking a lot about entrepreneurship today. one of the things we brought up earlier in the show was the idea that actually neither of the leading candidates talk a lot about entrepreneurship today. if you look at the polls, so many young people actually seem to have a negative view, if you will, of capitalism and to some degree even entrepreneurship itself. what do you make of that? >> i think that each of the candidates, they're engaged in their own primary right now, they're largely speaking to voters in their primary, so that's why you get this dynamic. i do think that, as we move towards the general election, i hope both parties will address entrepreneurship more, the needs of the start-up economy. that's what we're here today -- tech net day in washington. leaders from the technology sector from all over the country have gathered to try to persuade
policy makers at the white house on capitol hill that advancing this innovation economy is an important part of our future as a nation, economically and more raising wages and growing the economy. >> if hillary or donald were watching right now and you were to tell them one thing that you would want them to do assuming they're the frontrunners. rick perry will dispute that. i think you'd like to see ted cruz get the job. say ted is listening too. what's the one thing on -- in the first 100 days, you would want them to do when it comes to start-ups and technology? >> first of all, i will be honest. i am a democrat. i am a big supporter of secretary clinton. it's not my place to give advice probably to donald trump or ted cruz. look, i think immigration reform is a very important issue for the technology sector generally, for start-ups in particular. and i think secretary clinton is a big supporter of comprehensive immigration reform. i think it is important to get that done. it's crazy that we have the brightest people from all over the world come to our colleges and universities, we educate
them, train them, give them a great start and then tell them to go back to their countries to start businesses, create jobs and economic activity there. we should want those people to stay here, create jobs, create growth in our country. i think comprehensive immigration reform is an important part of that and i hope the next president will make that a high priority for his or her first 100 days. >> i would suggest we're way off base there if immigration reform is the first thing we're going to do in the first hundred days from the standpoint of entrepreneurship. i think that was the question. >> right. >> the issue is about taxation-ltaxation taxation-regulation. that's what's stiefifling growtn this company. when people can't get out and get a job, that's the issue. that's why people are mad in america today, because they don't have the opportunity to get a job or to go upwardly mobile in the place that they are. what's really strangling america's economy at this point in time, highest corporate tax rate in the civilized world and these regulations.
i would suggest, first 100 days that's what ted cruz will be focused on, lowering the corporate tax rate, giving relief on the regulatory side so that entrepreneurs know they can risk their capital and have a chance to have a return on investment. >> do you think that the next four years will be easier or harder for the president to do anything, given how the -- how difficult it has been for the last four years and how polarized washington has been? so everybody can walk in with a plan, but -- >> i think there were -- >> executing the plan is more complicated. >> i don't get confused that washington is a difficult place to get things done, but it can be done. it's about reaching across the aisle. that's one of the things we learned in texas, you have to have democrats helping you as well as republicans. don't get your, you know -- don't get your hair all on fire on the issue of whether or not you're helping a democrat or on the other side helping a republican. get the job done for the american people. that's going to be an issue that
i think -- whoever the next president of the united states, one of my real criticisms of the current resident of pennsylvania avenue is that he has no interest in working with republicans. and that's -- that day has to be over with, regardless of who the next president is, we have to have some people to work on both sides of the aisle. >> ron, go ahead. >> it's funny to hear governor perry because actually i worked closely with governor perry and david laky, who works for him and a bunch of people in texas on the ebola response where we reached across the aisle and ultimately congress on a bipartisan basis passed a $5 billion plan to fund and fight ebola and turn things around. i was president when president obama talked directly to governor perry. i think there are things where we can work across party lines and i think it's important that we do that. i agree also with governor perry that tax incentives, regulatory reform are also part of what the next president can do. i do hope that -- we're in an
election season right now. passions run high. partisanship runs high. i hope that after the election the two parties can sit down and solve some of these problems like repay treeization and economic reform. all these items are on the agenda. >> let me ask you this. you went straight at immigration first on your list. you're at this tech-net event. if we were to do a quick poll this morning of the folks who are going to come to tech-net and ask them the question i asked you, do you think they'd say immigration is their number one concern or do you think they'd be talking about some of the issues that rick perry talked about, whether it be taxes or regulation? >> i think they're all important. they're my concern. you asked me to pick one. i picked immigration. clearly we need to do something on tax reform. we clearly -- you know, i worked for a company that invests in start-ups. we need to make our labor laws fair and dynamic. we need a safe harbor so
companies want to provide in this new sharing and gig economy, companies that want to provide benefits to workers don't have it counted against them in litigation, regulation. there is a lot we can do. at tech-net we have a robust agenda to help start-ups that includes immigration but also better s.t.e.m. education. more dynamic labor laws and access to capital and washington. the federal government is the number one producer of goods and services in the country. they should be open for business to start-ups. there is a lot of government can do to help to fuel dynamism in the economy, fuel innovation, and i think that's what we need to see out of washington. >> ron, appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you. when we come back this morning, uber ceo traviskalanack is here with arianna huffington. she is joining the uber board. later, executive chairman john chambers joins us on old
checking stocks to watch this morning. comcast rising this morning after beating estimates on the top and bottom lines. nbc universal parent of this company also said to be in talks about an acquisition of movie studio dreamworks for more than $3 billion. you're looking at that. yeah, it's going to look pretty up. shares of dow component boeing under pressure.
earnings 1$1.74. due to a 24 cent charge for engineers changes to the refueling tanker program. apple taking a hit after reporting disappointing earnings late yesterday and its first-ever iphone sales decline. shares of buffalo wild wings going down after the company results -- posted results that missed expectations across the board. same store sales fell 1.7%. company owned restaurants and franchise owned restaurants down 2.4%. chain lowering its forecast for profits for the year. chipotle mexican grill logging its first quarterly loss in history. same store sales tumbled nearly 30%. chain looking ahead, though, opening 58 new restaurants during the quarter. and better news from panera, the baking cafè. bakery cafè serving up a beat on the top and bottom lines. company boosted its full-year guidance. when we come back, uber ceo
travis kalanick on the sharing economy and his company's massive valuation. we'll speak to him exclusively after the break. arianna huffington is here as well. we have news about her joining the board there. plus, much more on polapple. it's has some impact on the nasdaq. futures this morning. right now looks like the dow futures down 33 points. also reflecting some of the apple weakness. nasdaq down 42 points. s&p futures down 2.5. we'll be right back. this clean was like, pow!
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a "squawk box" exclusive. uber ceo travis ckalanick joins us. his vision for the ride-sharing service. no topic off the table. apple and twitter join the list of names posting disappointing results and then getting punished by the investors. decision 2016. big wins for donald trump and hillary clinton as both move closer to securing their party's presidential nominations. is it time for the rivals to drop out? we'll ask former presidential candidate rick perry as the final hour of "squawk box" begins right now ♪ and it goes like this
♪ take me by the tongue and i'll know you ♪ >> live from the most powerful city in the world, new york, this is "squawk box." ♪ i got the moves like jagger welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with rebecca quick and andrew ross sorkin. our guest host this morning, former texas governor rick perry. great to have him here for another hour. less than 90 minutes away from the opening bell on wall street. futures continuing to trade a little bit weaker this morning. we have had a good month, good six weeks actually. now positive across the board in what looked like it would be a tough year. oil prices have also rebounded -- almost to 45 now. almost to $45, which would be up more than 50%. that's one of the biggest, quickest, snap-backs that we have seen. we take it for granted. goes from 27 to 45. that's a real move. >> we should tell you about some of today's other top stories. apple shares under pressure this morning but the earnings
and revenue for the first quarter falling short and the company giving a weak outlook for the full year. take a look. you see that that dow component is now down by over 8%. a decline of -- declined to $95.90, a loss of about $46 billion in market capitalization just since earnings came out yesterday afternoon. that market capitalization that it lost, $46 billion, is greater than the total market cap for 391 of the s&p companies. declining year over year for the first quarter, 13%. the first quarterly sales drop since 2003. a few other metrics. iphone and ipad sales topping expectations but the max sales missed wall street's mark. aaron rakers joining us earlier this morning. >> i think we all knew that the two quarters for march and june would be somewhat challenging and the setup was really for the story going into the iphone 7-cycle later this year. clearly the guidance was the weaker point.
we like the iphone 7-cycle. but clearly disappointing. twitter shares down. revenue for the company light for a quarter. the guidance fell short of the street's consensus. julia boorstin spoke to ceo jack dorsey in a cnbc exclusive and asked him about the drop. >> we're focused on the right things. we have never had more focus as a company, as a development team and we're engineering what we believe to be the best experience out there around life and around what's happening now. and i want to make sure that twitter is the place that you check the first thing to start your day. it will tell you exactly what's happening in the world, what's most important, what matters, and that's what we're driving towards. >> comcast earnings and revenue topping the street's expectations. in the meantime, the parent company of nbc universal is also in talks to buy dreamworks animation for more than $3 billion. dreamworks is behind the "shrek" and cunning fkung fu panda fran.
a reerprevent proxy filing show that jack catsenberg who get a big payout if the company is sold and he leaves the company. also hearing from two dow components in the aerospace industry. boeing missed estimates. took a 24 cent charge for engineering changes to the refueling tanker program. that's the third charge for the program. boeing did not change its first-year guidance. see how i do that, arianna? i don't even read what's there necessarily. i change it. >> because you had a good night's sleep. you are running on all cylinders, you are cognitively at peak performance. >> you've heard the term "preaching to the choir" here. you know that. >> that's why i love you. >> i need sleep. i love it. i love it. we're so simpatico on this. i didn't do the meditation thing. >> that's okay. that's interesting. >> i couldn't think of a good
word. they were all taken. you wouldn't tell me yours. you wouldn't tell me your word. >> uber is a good meditation word. >> that's good! >> you do it from the back of the car too. >> right. i can meditate better -- >> it's one of the unintentional benefits. >> i don't care whether i do ut i x or not. it's there. will you bear with me for a second. >> quickly, though, okay. >> quickly. >> utx earnings and revenue topped estimates. shares right now indicated up 70 cents. >> you're done! thank you. >> to the news makers of the morning. they were sort of introduced. we'll do it again. uber is the best funded start-up in history and the most valuable unicorn estimated $62 billion available in over 60 countries and growing. this transportation titan doesn't come without controversy. this morning a "squawk box" exclusive. uber's co-founder and ceo. travist kalanick joining us with
the latest addition to his company's board. arianna huffington joining the board. also co-founder and editor in chief, of course, of the huffing post. good morning to both of you. we have a million things to talk about but let's start with the news. how did this happen? why did this happen? >> arianna and i had known each other for a couple years, a few years now. and i -- you know, we have just -- we just kind of had a connection from the beginning. we just sort of -- >> you're into sleep too? >> a simpatico thing on sleep. we have a simpatico thing on building companies. i like to say, look, on my board right now the -- the non-common board seats, right, the preferred shareholders, they're financial folks. i like to say they're chess enthusiasts. but actually as a ceo/entrepreneur i am a chess -- i play chess, and i play chess 60 hours a week. i needed a fellow chess master
at the board level. >> this is your chess master? >> for sure. there are a whole bunch of other things that arianna brings to the table that's really important and very valuable having her, you know, at the highest level at uber. and we're really excited. >> did you just call her up and say, mahey, do you want to do this? you said yes immediately? >> we were having dinner in san francisco. and it was his girlfriend and me, michael, his girlfriend and i. halfway through dinner he says to me, can we meet tomorrow to talk about something? i was thinking to myself, we're having dinner and we want to meet tomorrow to talk about something? okay. so -- so we meet tomorrow to talk about something, and he asks me -- what i loved about it, he said, we need to have like three long sessions to walk you through everything, through the big bets for the future, through the controversies, through the cultural values, and the final meeting was last week
at my home in l.a. when, for four and a half hours, travis circled my dining room table, did not sit down at all, talking to me about it. and that was it. >> that's how it happened. >> mm-hmm. >> let me ask you this. is this in advance -- becky was saying it somewhat sarcastically, i think. we were watching the twitter news and how difficult some of these things are. she said, i can see why you don't want to go public. or now i understand or when will you. is this in advance of going public? is there something going on here that we need to know about? >> i mean, i -- you guys heard me answer this one before. i mean, i am your classic founder-entrepreneur that's way more into product innovation and building a company than i am like thinking about liquidity. and so this is about building the company. you guys have seen me over the years. it's the -- it's always been that way for me. >> right.
>> and i have said -- even on cnbc, that we're going to take as long as we possibly can to go public. >> right. >> so that's not top of mind right now. >> i understand that completely, and looking at what these companies go through, i get why you would be focused on building the company because it seems like a lot of different directions to be focused when you are looking at trying to run a company but then also deal with shareholders. i started thinking about it and i refinanced my house recently because i could get a 2.99% rate. i could get that because of an 800 credit score. when you don't need the money is probably when you pay the least for it. if you go public, based on what you have said to this point, i might think, okay, he needs the money now and i think why? >> you have an 800 credit score? >> amazing. >> that's good stuff. >> that's the lead. what's your uber rating? >> exactly. >> what's your uber rating? >> unfortunately, it's only 4.5. little henry sorkin threw up in the back of a vehicle. >> he is always -- he is always
nice to the driver. yeah. >> i know. well, what do you think? >> it's the kid's fault. >> i think a lot of times -- this is something we're working on the technology side, a lot of times we're running a couple of minutes late as riders. we have to think about the drivers in that situation, right? they're making a living. those minutes where they're waiting for you are not paid for. and so sometimes that -- >> the wait -- >> can you confirm that, if that were a child throwing up could result in the four or fiveers. the attitude of the father in general. can you confirm that a throw-up would cause the four or five? >> i put this in the attitude category. we have training programs for this. on the rider side. >> can we go back to the -- i'll make it my first job as a board member to investigate how you got a 4.5 rating. and then we'll come back to
report. one point i wanted to make from my point of view is that i was a champion of uber and the transformation not just of transportation but of cities that's going on. before i became a board member -- and it's exciting to see what's going to happen in the years ahead. >> back to the ipo question for one second. i want to read you something that fred wilson said. these are fighting words. i would like you just to respond on this issue. >> oh, wow. >> he says the following. he says that, quote, i don't know if we can show it as a full screen -- he is wimping out. that should be a publicly traded company. when you take money from me, am i getting money from you? you have a responsibility to give me my money back. sometime. you can't just say -- well -- this is a family show but f you. take the g.d. company public. what do you say to fred wilson? >> first, he doesn't have money in uber. >> fair enough. >> he passed on the series bfe. that was a $300 million
valuation. just putting it out there. >> nice! >> generally, as it relates to vcs and how they think about this -- i'll start with how -- well, where we are. first is, yes, we have a number of investors who put money in. there is a moral obligation to find liquidity, right. that's part of the deal. that's part one. part two, i have a number of employees that have put heart and soul, blood and sweat, into making uber a great company. and there's -- a lot of that is sweat equity. so we have to find a way to get that liquidity at some point, but we are five and a half years old, and it's a little early in our life cycle to go there. now, we'll go there eventually. we have to find liquidity for these folks. >> right. >> i am not sure where the sort of negativity that that commenter may have had.
>> let me ask you about a couple other things. i want to talk politics, china, some of the controversies. something that hillary clinton said, i think it's important because we are having a debate about the gig economy and what employment means these days. she says, by classifying employees as contractors employers can exploit or even steal their wages. this on -- so on demand or so-called gig economy is creating exciting opportunities, she says and unleashing innovation but it's also raising hard questions about workplace protections and what a good job will look like in the future. how do you think about that? >> well, look, i think, you know, first is the -- taxi drivers across the u.s., like -- i think over 90% of taxi drivers are independent contractors. it's because, well, they can choose -- they can choose how to make a living. and on the uber system, we have one which -- well, it's not just about the on-demand economy where you push a button and get a ride. that's the rider's side of the
equation. on the driver's side, i can push a button and start work. and i can push a button and stop work, whenever i choose. so for the first time, i think, in possibly history, work is flexible to life and not the other way around. and so, it's not just about the things i think that uber is doing on the positive side for cities and making them, you know, creating jobs, reducing congestion and pollution and reducing drunk driving. but it's also changing the way we work in a way that's very, very positive for the average worker. and i think that's a story we need to get better at telling, but i think it's a very positive one. and if we get better at telling that story, i think, you know, various politicians will get a look at these very positive changes that are happening for folks, for workers in cities. and, you know, just all the great things that -- >> it takes a -- i mean, can
you -- are the taxi guys in greece so entrenched that uber is running into all kinds of resistance and -- >> you don't have to go to greece. you can go to austin, texas. >> look, what we see is that, wherever uber does well, we eventually see resistance. and it's because we happen to be in an industry that has set things up that essentially competition has been outlawed. >> i am planning to work on the greek situation. what's interesting about the flexibility question. if you talk to riders, and after here we're going to meet actually with a group of female drivers. but if you talk to the drivers, the key thing for them is flexibility. and over 50% of uber drivers are not full-time. they may do, what is it, 10 or 20 hours -- >> the average is under 10 hours a week. i think moms who want to make extra money, people who are in transitions between jobs, i mean, that's the future. and the question is how can we
make it as good for the drivers as possible and how can we keep innovating to improve their own experience. and the reduction in stress, the importance of being able to start work when you want, to be able to take your kid to school or take your kid to a doctor without the stress that all these issues have created. >> probably sleep more. >> absolutely. very important. >> think about this. think about when -- you know, because you've got a system where the average driver is doing less than ten hours a week, it can become a safety net for a city. like, oh, manufacturing plant for whatever, you know, falls on hard times, a few thousand people get laid off. uber is there. uber is there to make ends meet for those folks who are maybe finding a transition in their life. ubc uber is there for people who need to add a little extra income to their job. these are positive things for folks who are, again, just
trying to make ends meet. >> governor perry was excited that you guys were coming in today. >> one of the most fascinating things for me to watch is the city of austin, unquestionably one of the most innovative cities in the country. i think about the eighth largest market for uber. and they're in this pitch battle with uber. the political class is against uber in austin, texas. i am sitting there watching this and i spent 25 years living in austin, and this is someone on the right side of the political spectrum saying that uber and that disruptive technology that you all are bringing to this whole concept and all the different things that you bring to the table here, and why that's not being embraced in austin, texas, rather than this huge fight that the political class is putting on to try to stop uber from being able to do what you do very, very well in austin, texas. i am curious about your observation of that. >> well, look, i like to say that, you know, these -- the
taxi rules that exist today, right, these old rules today, there was -- once upon a time those were the new and controversial rules, way back. i like to say every new and controversial rule has a right to become an old rule. but then it also has the privilege of being replaced by new rules that bend towards people and towards progress. so we've gotten into a situation where some of these old rules have become protectionist and have essentially outlawed competition. and ultimately those things need to change. >> right. yeah. >> policy question for you. one of the things you're doing is talking about employment and the ability to create employment through uber. at the same time you're also working on creating autonomous vehicles and working with the carnegie melon and the folks outside of carnegie melon now. how do you square that? how far are we off from that? what do you do then when you
have to talk to workers who will be -- this debate gets flipped around. >> you look at the effort and autonomous cars, driverless cars that's happening. it's been going on for almost ten years. it was started in earnest on the commercial side by google. why? a million people a year die from cars. because many -- probably tens of millions of people are getting injured. because, well, when you're behind the wheel, like the quality of life is just, you know -- it's a very stressful thing. i am from los angeles. i have spent contiguously years of my life behind a wheel on the 405. and so, there's just so many great things that will happen. but that's what progress and technology is about. and so this kind of technology is happening, and so the question for uber is, do we resist the future or do we find a way to become a part of it. >> right. >> if we're going to find a way to become a part of it, if we embrace it, then how to you
optimistically lead through it, how do you partner with cities as that transition happens? it's going to take a while. the transition will take a long time. to be honest, there's going to be -- i mean, that transition literally could take decades. >> okay. >> so we -- >> when guidelinioogle says we'e driving autonomous vehicles in five or ten years you think that's off the mark? >> you don't drive an autonomous vehicle. i think in that time frame you'll certainly have a lot of autonomous vehicles out there but it will have not rheplaced everything. >> you think of the history in the agricultural side. in california when they came up with a new type of tomato that could be mechanically picked. all these people who were picking tomatoes lost their jobs. but technology is what continues to change, and we'll manage this. i mean, our challenge is what is the next big thing that will use
the educated workforce that we better be working on in this country today. >> that's it. we are planting the seeds five, ten years out but working also to mitigate the inevitable, unintended consequences. >> remember, when we -- not we, but 50 years ago, 80 years ago when there were operators who had to physically switch phone lines, right. and the world moved on, and that was okay. then look at today. uber is five and a half years old. this year we're bringing over a million drivers on the platform in the u.s. alone. maybe close to two. and so who would have predicted that five years ago? so there are going to be other ubers, other companies that come from nowhere -- >> other uses for labor. >> -- that create huge opportunities for people who want to work in new ways. >> don't you get off the 405 now with google maps or with ways
and go surface streets? i lived in l.a. for seven years. i was afraid. now you put in google maps. i'm going through neighborhoods. it's weird because there is traffic going through the neighborhoods now because everybody is -- >> it's better to be in the back of the car like reading, talking. >> sleeping. >> meditating. using uber. >> let's cover it all. >> eating toast. >> arianna, some of us are children of the '60s that still like to be behind the wheel. >> depends on the car. >> fair enough. >> let me ask you about china. which is to say you're still working hard there. >> of course. >> unfortunately losing money there. there is a little bit of a winner-take-all thought about companies like uber. you have a huge competitor there that's already number one. >> yeah. >> can you be number two? is that acceptable to you? >> well, look, i think the way we look at it is, you know, when
you are a tech company or maybe just a new company generally, you need to invest in new places and new products. china is like a very interesting place to do it. we're able to invest and lose money in china because we have markets that are profitable. that helps to fund, well, new places and new products and we're totally okay with that. winner takes all or not, i mean, i think we're just there to serve customers, we have riders, the drivers, and make a system that's super efficient for helping people to get around. if we do it right, we'll be there for the long run. >> you're investing or losing about a billion dollars a year in that market right now. >> that's correct. >> will that number go up? what's acceptable? what's the time line? >> there are some interesting -- when i was quoted with that, there are some interesting commentary. it was like i said that we will be able to invest sustainably a billion dollars or more per year in china. but that's, again, because we
have profits in the more mature markets that we're in. and so, for us, it's -- when you go to china you cannot -- you cannot go there sort of half-hearted. you have to go in all-in. the opportunity for uber is to say, well, if you have a chance to be amazon and alibaba at the same time, you should most definitely try. and if you try, you do it full hearted, you do it all the way, and you give it a shot. and the expected outcome, the r.o.i. is there, so let's go. >> do you think of yourself as -- we often talk about uber potentially in the future as a platform company, not just driving but bringing you food, delivering, doing all sorts of things. how far are we away from that next step? is it easier or harder than you thought? >> well, look, right now i think we have made a number of bets in different areas, and i am good with the bets we've got right now. i'll keep you posted if we've
got anything new. but right now we're sort of making sure we get our existing bets right. i am really excited about uber eats. it's really taking off. and we're launching in a number of markets here in the u.s. and even starting to do it internationally as well. >> ceo question. now that you are on the board -- how much time do you spend thinking about the business, and when i say the business, what markets to grow in and all these other things, versus having to deal with public policy issues, different lawsuits, class-action suits that you've settled, various controversies. i imagine you wake up every single morning -- >> after a lot of sleep. >> -- after a lot of sleep and read some headline from somewhere in the world that is not as attractive as you would like. >> i mean, look, my management style i like to say is problem solver in chief. i am an engineer. i like to solve problems, the same way, like, a math professor likes to solve math problems. like, that's what she loves to
do. and so i am the same way with problems. and so, whether it be a regulatory situation or a legal situation or a product thing that we want to invent or a new country we want to roll out in or launch, those are all things that we get excited about. and if the problem seems really difficult, we get super pumped about solving it because, if you solve it, there is a huge outcome on the other side. >> actually that's one of the things, andrew, that i have learned from travis watching him over the last couple of years is how relentlessly optimistic he remains in the middle of the biggest battles, including the battle here in new york with the taxi drivers and how it's like a challenge that energizes him. and that's sort of a great thing for leaders to -- to learn from as a way to navigate challenges. and for -- i think from travis' point of view from everything i have learned, a lot of it has to do with the culture you create
in the company and the cultural values and communicating that to every employee so it's not just coming from travis. >> look, i can't be the only problem solver. to be problem solver in chief means you need to create a culture of problem solving at a company as big as ours. >> you settled a number of big suits recently. can you speak to the decision process in terms of doing that rather than trying to take the case all the way, and are there a lot more settlements to come? >> well, look, i think, if we -- we call it the o'connor case, the most recent one, you know, it reaffirms independent contractor status for the folks who are on our platform, which by the way, that status is one that they appreciate and prefer. but also, sort of holds us to account in some ways, right, like you know, you should have a deactivation policy that's straightforward and transparent. and essentially fair. and so, you know, there are things that we have to do to get
better too, and we're always getting better. and sometimes you are able to figure those things out out of court, and that's okay. and that's just -- that's one of those specific incidents. >> we're going to thank you. thank you guys both for coming in. congratulations on joining the board. we should do this more often. nice to see you again. fred wilson was on twitter admitting that he missed the early investment. he said that was correct. somebody tweeted out what you just said and he wrote back "that is correct." >> i guess we're on better terms now. >> next time we should have you both in together. >> happy to do that. >> thanks. >> see you in austin. >> come on! good luck with the -- that election there. i just -- i am stunned that you all would be even at this position where you're having to fight and push back on it. >> anytime we succeed in a city, we see resistance in a city. >> i leave here and go to my next stop, and i'll be using
uber. >> awesome. i can't wait to make it back to austin. >> it's a great city. >> sometimes south by southwest. >> it's a great city. >> thank you. coming up, tech heads to washington. cisco executive chairman and former ceo john chambers joins us from tech-net. talking trade and public policy. stay with us. >> thank you, guys.
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welcome back to "squawk box." here is what's making headlines this morning. apple the big drag on market sentiment after its quarterly numbers came out late yesterday. missing on the top and bottom lines posting its first-ever iphone sales drop and first-ever quarterly revenue drop in 13 years. the dow component down by over 8% to $95.85. opposite fortunes for nbc universal parent comcast. the company's earnings and revenue both exceeding street's estimates, additionally they added people and cable lines,
brought in new video subscribers, new high speed internet accessors. that stock up 1.7% to $62.10. additionally sources say the company is in talks about dreamworks about possibly buying the movie studio. for more than $3 billion. earnings beat this morning from snack maker mondeelez. 9 cents above estimates. bottom line was helped by a strong gain in profit margins. that stock is up by about 3.6%. the ceo irene rosen feld joins squawk on the street. cisco executive chairman and former ceo john chambers joining us now from washington. he and other technology leaders meeting with lawmakers today to discuss public policy, trade, tax reform, education, and other issues. and i -- you know, i know you're busy down there, john, probably haven't seen the whole show, but
it's been a common theme to try to figure out how to make sure this entrepreneurial spirit in this country, which has made this country and we're still tops in the world there, but we'd like to make it even better. and i think that's going to be on the plate down there for what you're talking about. >> completely agree. joe, if you look what we're doing, government and business have to work closer together. you look at the future of our country, 92% of the jobs created over the next decade will have technology skills involved in those jobs, regardless of if you're in the service industry or manufacturing. if you look at what other countries are doing, over country in the world except the u.s. has a digital plan for how they're going to grow their gdp one to three points faster than they would have otherwise. how they create in india a million jobs a month. how in france business and government are working together. a socialistic government to really say how do they get unemployed back to work. business committing to a million
incremental jobs on it. each of these countries when you go to the top, you say here is what we need on tax reform, here is what we need on education. here is what the public sector and private sector should do. you go back six months later and it's done. in the u.s. we're falling behind. all of you know it. you heard the comments earlier both in terms of the number of start-ups. been relatively flat for ten years. only going to do 60 this year in terms of the nasdaq where normally you do 240. we have to reskill mid america and change the education system so when the young people graduate from high school they have the skills necessary to get the jobs. instead of talking about tax reform, this is my tenth year coming on the same international tax issues. fifth year on patent. we have to say how do we act more like countries that we used to say move slowly. now they're setting the innovation pace. >> you've given up on tax reform, john? >> never. never. if you watch tax reform and governor perry i think it was
one of the questions you asked one of my colleagues. tax reform allows us to create jobs in america. right now the tax reform as you all know and many of your viewers know, it not only does not allow you to bring back the earnings you made overseas. there is $3 trillion overseas. it means you can't create the jobs in america, and what the overseas governments are saying, the u.s. isn't stepping up to its obligations so they'll start taxing the earnings we have overseas. unless you locate new employees in their countries they'll tax you more. so our tax policies are completely broken. i have been here for ten years. we need to fix it in this next year. if i would have told you that france is moving so much faster than the u.s. and india moving so much faster than the u.s. two years ago you would have said no way. they're getting the job growth because of it. >> i see you're a clinton-friendly republican. i understand that. you're not alone probably there. but just wonder who is the real
hillary sometimes. when you hear someone say that don't let anyone tell you that it's the private sector that creates jobs. when you hear a quote like that, do you think she got just off base or moved off center by her -- her competitor in the democratic race? do you think that when she was -- if she were to become president, do you think she would be a private-sector friendly president, john? i guess you must. >> well, i would break, joe, it into two pieces. first the political parties have moved so far to the right and so far to the left whoever wins each of the primaries has to move appropriately on that. america wants to be governed from the center. you'll see whoever wins, in my opinion, they'll have a tough decision to make. will we be the company that leads in innovation is this we're falling behind. the longer we wait on the decisions we just talked about, the further behind we fall. it does require the courage to make fundamental changes with business and government working
together. if i would have told you the socialistic government in france would be so business-friendly that we actually speak to universities together, that medef is saying when you cut taxes you can create jobs, you would have said no way. i think the next leader needs the courage to develop a digital strategy for the country and say we'll grow one to three points faster. america has not had a pay raise since 2000. we're at the same level we were in 1992. i will point out those areas happen to balance -- i am a strong but moderate republican, that clinton during his eight years of presidency, 22.5 million jobs created, 18% growth in real gdp. 17% growth in real per capita income. last time the america got a raise was with the information era. you're about to see a digital era that can have the same effect on america except three to five times larger. we as a country are not moving
with the speed necessary to create the start-ups to give middle class america a chance to participate in this. policies cannot take a year. they're taking five and ten years to get the job done. that's our message today. how do we win together and how does america win? >> is there a candidate who you think best represents that? >> i really do. i think john kasich best represents that. i also am realistic. both political parties are pretty smart. if you are really going to get gdp growth and i think it's one to three points incremental gdp growth. if you get back to being excited not about generating 2 million jobs a career, which is not enough. we have a job shortage of high-skilled workers of two million. i think you'll see the candidates move that way. kasich has been the most balanced in terms of saying how do we do this as a country and how do we do it in a logical way. use trade as an example. no country has gdp growth for any sustained length of time or economic benefit without key trade programs going through.
at the same time, as you do trade, you have to re-skill the work force and show that the average american will have a much brighter future and the children will as well as opposed to the last 15 years. >> john, fun of tone ever the t that's important that you talked about in the last couple minutes, is government and business working together. i think that's so important that we have the next president of the united states, and, you know, regardless of who that will be, obviously, you know, i am for ted cruz. but the point of this is that a very thoughtful plan and what you all are doing on digitalization -- we've worked closely on this back over the course of the years and what we saw done in israel. israel is now going to be israel 2.0 as they come in and take the next step up. but what you have done in france and what we should be doing in the united states. and the next president of the united states, along with congress, that needs to be one of their most important issues
that they work on together. obviously, you know, bringing the wealth back into this country, repatriating that money with tax policy makes a huge amount of sense to me. but being able to have a plan and to devolve that plan back down into the states where we give states really the lead on it, where you let these, you know -- i will suggest to you that governors and legislators working together can take a lot of this and develop the digitization concept and have the federal government be a partner with those states and the private sector. so you've got, you know, the states, the federal, and the private sector working together. if we can -- if we can put all of that into the tank of the engine of america, this economy can explode. >> the economy, governor, you nailed it, could probably go three to four points faster than we are. the job creation could be 2 x what we're currently doing.
we could retrain the unemployed like in france where we put training programs in place where 70% of the unemployed go through the training programs and all of a sudden get a job in six months. israel is a great example. all they have is their innovative spirit. they've redigitized the whole country and made a huge difference on it. in india, the chief minister gets it. they are not talking 3 or 4% economic growth. they're talking about 15%. you're talking about modi growing the fastest-growing economy in the world at 10%, not 7%. you're talking about bringing the capability to every citizen in the state. they use a federalism where the central government outlines key concepts and literally does reviews with all the states about are you on your metrics to achieve those or not. governor, what you did in texas was remarkably basic but very effective. you outlined a vision. you are the easiest place to
start a business. during the time you were governor you saw 30% of u.s. jobs created in texas. you go to hunting in california -- nice way of saying come to visit us. come to texas and locate your jobs, you said. you create a citizen friendly, government friendly approach where they work together. this is a the exact approach that this country needs to do. but we have to quit following people. we led during the '90s. we got the economic and job growth benefit and middle class america grew income by 17%. now we're moving the slowest of the major countries in the world. we are moving -- not pointed together to outcomes. somebody needs to pull us together as a country and have the courage to take the risk like modi did in india. like netanyahu and perez in israel. like hollande in france.
i couldn't agree more. >> john, you found a sweet spot. i know you always wanted to do something like this. you're perfect for it. maybe -- cisco's loss is everybody else's gain. >> we're going to change the world. >> thanks, pal, good to see you. when we come back, 100 days until rio. we get ready for the olympics with nbc's bob costas right after the break. yet many people still build portfolios with strategies that just track the benchmarks. but investing isn't about achieving average. it's about achieving goals. and invesco believes doing that today requires the art and expertise of high-conviction investing. translation? it's time to bench the benchmarks.
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welcome back, everybody. we're just 100 days to the 31st oy limb pad in rio. bob costas is joining us. >> we're here on the famed copa ca nana beach in rio where this summer's olympic games get under way in exactly 100 days. we have been here the past few days checking out the city and talking with people. various olympic and governmental officials about preparations for the games. on the issues that they confront, the zika virus, water quality, political turmoil. after all, the president faces the possibility of impeachment. but all of this hasn't dimmed the anticipation and the excitement about all the stars who are returning to the games like michael phelps and carey
walsh jennings who will be competing in beach volleyball. usain party atmosphere we anticipate in brazil, everybody has their fingers crossed that these serious issues, no one's trying to minimize them, can be surmounted so these games can proceed and everybody can have a heck of a good time. >> bob, i think that's one of the huge questions people have been asking though. obviously every time we start to open olympics there's all kinds of questions about whether the cities will be ready, whether travelers will be able to get around. but the political backdrop in brazil is a huge one. is that having any impact on things as they're trying to get ready there? >> reporter: well, i spoke the other day with the head of their olympic organizing committee. and he made this distinction, he said, we are -- we being the olympic organizing committee, are in charge of every aspect of the games with two exceptions, security and power.
the electrical grid. so that's the only part that the government has direct control over. so he said even if there is turmoil, and there is, even if there's a changing of the guard at the presidency, it will not have a direct effect on our preparations for the olympics. it could be a little weird as they try to decide who it is that officially opens the game because the head of state at the opening ceremony has that duty and perhaps they'll have a new head of state a half hour before the games begin. who knows. >> bob, you've been covering these olympics for so many years, i think you're now the longest running anchor hosting olympics like these. just physically being on the ground and seeing the preparations and all the questions that people have again about, you know, how prepared are they, does it look to your eye that they're closer, worse, better? how does it compare to other olympics where there have been these questions about how prepared they are? >> reporter: well, the ioc to be
factual about it, the ioc warned them sternly not long ago that they were lagging behind in their preparations. the same thing happened in athens in 2004 where there were threats to take the games away and will they be ready in time. and remember visiting athens in april of 2004 and thinking there is no possible way they can be ready. and then the rush to the finish line and in fact they were ready. and they were able to pull it off. brazil says they're moving closer. they're moving in supersonic fast motion at the moment. they're getting more accomplished in the last six months leading up to the games than maybe in the years prior to. and they assure us that they will be ready. there's skepticism, and that skepticism is understandable. we'll have to wait and see. >> bob, you think about in the past and contrast when the olympics are on the other side of the world and there was one channel, nbc might be doing it, and then contrast that with only an hour difference and all the different platforms that nbc can
broadcast this on. it's mind boggling the amount of live finishes or gold medals or moments that you're going to be able to experience live given where it is and given the number of platforms it can be on. this is going to be by far the best ever in nbc sports. you know, probably going to be hard to do it logistically, but i have a lot of confidence. >> reporter: well, in that respect there should be more live competition in primetime than in most olympic games. and the other point you made is very important, be it the live streaming or be it all the various television platforms that come under the nbc banner, if you want to see even some of the more obscure sports, nothing is going to stop you from watching them from start to finish. and if you see something out of which necessity taped, delayed and played in primetime but you want to see it live, you'll be
able to and see all the lead up and really the background. really the olympic menu serves everybody pretty well, i think. >> i think we're ready to eat up. bob, thank you very much for joining us today. >> reporter: thanks, becky. okay. coming up, i think you've seen it all this election season? well, you might have to think again. we're going to talk voting booth selfies when we return. the first stock index ♪ (musiwas createdoughout) over 100 years ago as a benchmark for average. yet many people still build portfolios with strategies that just track the benchmarks.
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making headlines this morning, snapchat is fighting for the right to selfie. the company filed an amicus brief in new hampshire voting against a ban on taking photos in the voting booth. calling it a key part of how young people participate in the voting process. who knew? >> i don't know. our guest host this morning former republican governor of texas rick perry. what's next for rick perry? >> back to roundtop, texas. that's where i hang my hat now. we have a wedding coming up. >> i kind of meant the big picture. >> that is the big picture. i got a daughter getting married, that's the big picture. middle of october we're going to have a great wedding. >> are you done in public
service? >> oh, i don't think so at all. >> that's what i mean. what are you open to? >> you know, whatever comes along the road i'm going to be open to. i love this business. i love my country. you know, we're really passionate, my wife and i, about the veterans and being able to help them. so maybe on the public side, maybe on the private side, but you haven't heard the last of me, joe. >> what can we do to help johnny football? >> he is a really fine young man who's got some great problems. i hope he will listen to some people who really care about him and get the help he needs. the whole substance abuse issue, you know, we as a country have to deal with. but he's a high profile one that maybe some lemonade can be made out of these lemons. >> i know you're a cruz guy, but just for argument sake let's say the guy who calls himself the
presumptive nominee does become the nominee, who would you suggest he picks for a vice president? what would be the most important carrying ohio, carrying florida? >> well, there were 16 men and women who were competitors -- >> one of them? >> you can do a whole lot worse. i mean, there are some really great talent there, people with a lot of experience. when you look across that board of the governors, when you look at carly, who i think is one of the most capable ceos, you can pick a john chambers. >> outside the box. >> you want to bring somebody out of the box to the vice presidency. i happen to think john chambers is one of the great ceos of all time. i think he is every bit of innovative and consequential as steve jobs. monumental. >> what do you think should it be about winning a state or maybe offsetting some of the downside of trump? >> i think it would be both. >> you think the vice president should be both. about winning a state and maybe
being -- >> sure. but listen, they're not going to pick a guy like me from texas because republicans are going to carry texas. that's going to happen. can you go pick someone who maybe can deliver a state and help down ballot, help in a particular -- >> mexico governor, maybe, a woman, hispanic. >> marco rubio. i mean, there's some real talent out there. >> all right. governor, pleasure. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow. right now it's time for "squawk on the street." good wednesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with jim cramer, david faber at the market exchange. earnings from apple, twitter, boeing, chipotle. a fed statement this afternoon, the nasdaq going for a fifth down day, the longest streak since january. europe's in the green, oil hits 45 this morning. that's the highest since november. as