tv Squawk on the Street CNBC September 1, 2016 9:00am-11:01am EDT
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ended where they began yesterday. it was i guess a quiet august day. today is september, though. how did the european markets fair on the first day of september. whatever happened to italy and spain? come on, guys. but there's germany, france, and, of course, be the uk is the three, the one that was in the red. there's wti crude, continuing to fall now below 45, well below this morning and that 10-year note yield creeping above 1.6% at 1.613. our road map this morning does start with the first trading day of september. if you woke up and didn't look at the calendar that's what the day is. it's a volatile month. what's going to be coming. the apple tax saga far from over. tim cook calling the $14.5 billion tax bill from europe total crap. and european officials are firing back. shares of salesforce falling this morning. this after earnings that were fine, ceo marc benioff spoke with jim last night on "mad
money" and we'll get into what's going on there and why that stock is looking down this morning. as for overall stocks futures on the rise as we head into the first trading session of september. wednesday's decline snapped a five-month winning streak to the s&p 500 and a six-month winning streak from the dow. the nasdaq did rise 1% in august. that posted its second consecutive monthly gain. we talked yesterday, of course, about september, jim, and what we can expect. we made the point that it is typically a more volatile month. august was very quiet. we will have a lot of fed focus. >> right. >> we will get a jobs number tomorrow. >> yeah. this is heightened period of sensitivity and one of the things i said last night on "mad money" is this is when you -- technology, big for the s&p. comes in with a head of steam in terms of the stocks but the earnings may not. and immediately see palo alto, the other day, king of cyber security, guiding down. and then last night, salesforce with a guide down of the next quarter, not of the year.
that's important. will come into play later on. but this is what i most fear is that people are lulled into thinking that everything is good when housing is good. some retail is good. and employment growth is good. that's maybe not enough for some to be able to handle a rate hike. i think it is. >> you think it is? >> yes. >> you are expecting what are we talking here, the 20th and 21st meeting of september. >> and i think it's worth while because right now we -- last time we got british pmi it was extraordinary. it was 53. the exogenous events by nature are surprises, but right now, if you're janet yellen and see a very good number on friday, sigh i see no reason why not to. >> pmi, china, august official manufacturing pmi up to 50.4. that was a bit ahead of consensus. >> yes. >> and expansionary territory, first time since october 14. >> i regard it as very significant. again, i don't want to see any collapse. hong kong stock market's been
very hot. china remember last year, at this time, we were thinking that it's -- >> china when we -- >> 75%. >> when a great deal of focus and we saw august last year, of course, reflect that in the markets. but on what was declining growth or concerns about it and a lot of other things that came along with it, that played out through the year. there are continuing concerns, though, about capital flight from the country as they manage the currency down. >> but i also would say that the companies i deal with in china are seeing a little better, depending on the autos were pretty good, but there was a change in taxes that made the autos good. yum is seeing business over there. i don't see a turn in the big capital equipment businesses that we're all used to. i think that honeywell is doing okay. honeywell is doing well in china. >> right. >> i still don't see owe tus elevator a big business for united technology doing well. the steel stocks are doing well. why? because we've blocked chinese steel. no steel coming from china or
korea since we put in the tariffs. so -- it's a mixed picture, china, but last year was a bad picture. mixed better than bad. has to do with expectations, obviously. >> september has typically been the weakest month of the year. >> yeah. >> for the s&p 500. >> and a lot of that is bizarrely a fear of october. even though october is no at bad month historically. there are individual months -- >> down 56% of the time since 1928. >> down 1% since 1890s. now, that's des positive enough to believe it. i usually don't like these things as january goes. it's des positive. one of the reasons is, that the market has been good and people do take profits, but we are not in a position right now where you can just say across the board things are good and that causes people to worry. and i think salesforce we're going to have to dwell on it today. salesforce says that business in july was weaker in the u.s. but they didn't say it was their
own -- marc benioff said it's our fault but at the same time who is prepared for that. >> we're going to get to that fact. >> i was shocked. i have to tell you, i was shocked only because their execution is usually so superb. >> we will hear from your interview from him and discuss it. >> now look, [ inaudible ] bargain store was good. >> it was sfo replaced tractor supply. >> ali's bargain store. how do you spell -- >> o-l-l-i-e. >> ollie. >> not like the champ. >> the push cart model. the jet.com model of algorithm and good old fashioned they couldn't sell it ollie's and run the circulars. >> the trading or something like that. >> that was part of my family that owned it. >> was it really. >> well my grandfather had a push cart. really have to go there if you want to. i do think that when you have to go down that food chain and look at five below versus ollie's, ollie's good, five below bad.
dollar general bad, dollar tree bad, walmart good. it's a mixed picture. mixed picture in september means down a little bit. we need -- >> okay. >> mixed enough to good that you think the fed will be one of the many different data points they look at to say things are strong enough. >> right. and i -- >> on retail. >> that would be a reason to go down 1% as we did when somehow we weren't ready for december. in december we had oil not stable. the big conundrum for me, $2. -- 2.1 billion oils in storage in the united states. >> that's a lot of oil. >> and we have a lot of tanks. that is not sustainable at $44. it's not. that's -- it can't -- it can't stay there. now i know the saudis have a deal coming up, there's -- but saudis are pumping like mad. saudis at the highest production they've been. i don't know where this is going. >> where are they? >> almost 11, 10 point --
>> we're in the 9s? >> but we imported 8.9 and we're dropping a little bit. imported 8.9 million barrels a day. no place to put this stuff. and all the places that we refine and sent to, they're all filled up. everybody. all our eastern refineries, traditionally we send overseas, no one wants our gasoline either. the great conundrum of the market how can we say at 44 when we have no room to put oil. >> the market in the past where you and i have sat here and said it's about oil and the market will go down, despite the dividends paid to u.s. consumerses. >> turned out to be somewhat from visa and mastercard, overstated in terms of what we thought would happen. >> it was. >> some of the restaurants felt they got a little bit of a windfall but that's gone away. the restaurant group is weak. >> it is. >> a lot was -- even though -- >> kind of a conundrum. a year ago we sat here for some time wondering what was happening to the money, saved or spent? a huge number we've been dealing with for quite some time in
terms of the difference in gasoline prices now versus call it two years ago. >> we're not used to rationality. the money is being saved but credit availability is growing. good numbers from st. louis fed showing credit vulnerable. easier to get a loan than a year ago with a fico of 700. credit cards charging again. >> the apple story in terms of the eu keeps going on. a lot to talk about in apple. next week it will be back to the actual businesses of wireless phones, but tim cook sounding off to irish media about the eu's $14.5 billion tax penalty against the company in a newspaper interview with the irish independent, cook called the eu's ruling total political crap. here's what cook told irish broadcaster rte about the eu penalty. >> it's maddening. it's maddening, it's disappointing, it's clear that this comes from a political place. it has no basis in fact or in
law, and unfortunately, one of those things we have to work through. >> cook said apple expects to repatriate billions of global profits to the u.s. next year. that's an interesting story. as our viewers well know, $215 billion in cash and other lic d liquidity investments are held offshore. the number is absurd. he's been waiting for the tax holiday so many other corporations have been waiting for examito come back. maybe get corporate tax reform with the new administration in the early days of the administration next year. >> i thought that's what he was betting on is a clinton presidency and some sort of like a agreement. or a trump presidency. >> or a trump presidency. talking about 10%. >> mr. pena nieto put up that wall. a little different from reagan and gorbachev. wilfred frost i enjoyed the
worldwide exchange show is fabulous. >> yes. >> really is a lot of fun for seven minutes of their rivals are seven minutes. okay. >> but wilfred did point out that total crap, he is not allowed to say the word crap in the uk. so we think that's a word we can get away with but a word apparently a george carlin -- >> i did not know that. >> i thought that was -- standards, allowed to say things we're not allowed to say. >> i listened to wilfred and he made that clear in about 80 seconds of the show. >> are we going to stop talking about this next week when we see the 7 and i know maybe you've got an invite now, i don't know if you're going to go sflo they sent me an invite. >> hopefully you're not going. >> you just want to get an invite. it's rsvp. i'm jammed on the show. i do point out that yes, we will not be talking about this because it's protracted and because -- >> meanwhile a story in "the wall street journal" about apple cutting prices from -- or
cutting its suppliers down in terms of their pricing. and volumes. >> well, they're all subject to being squeezed. >> you're talking about pitting skyworks and corvo. it's at same group of companies you always have to say well have they diversified. one of the reasons i like both broadcom, and why i like nxp my travel trust owns that they saw it coming and x p moved into autos, number one semi in autos and procom moved into 3g into 5g actual communications. >> 5g. >> 5g? >> qualcomm so far ahead. 5g they're like ready. >> wow. >> why do you think that stock goes up and hits new highs all the time. that's just done because it's a houdini thing, david blaine, david blaine ceo. no. >> go visit his grave. not that far from here. >> that is true? >> yeah. >> when we return salesforce's guidance weighing on the stock this morning. you heard jim talking about it. hear what mark ben kneeoff told
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salesforce.com moving lower in the premarket. the cloud software company issuing current quarter guidance short of street estimates overshadowing a better than expected second quarter. marc benioff spoke about salesforce's numbers and outlook. >> you saw the m&a activity that we have done this quarter. that, of course, has weighted on our numbers and yet, of course, we are delivering these great quarterly numbers. number two, we did have the foreign exchange situation that we just talked about and number three, we did see a bit of softness in the united states at the very end of the second quarter and these three things together really are kind of what is giving us, i would say, an appropriate conservative view for the third and fourth quarter. >> all right. jim, you know things company well. you know mr. benioff well. fx and seemingly things falling off at the second quarter. what do we make of it. >> fx they roll their currency into britain. compound $150 million hit
because of the pound shortness. now, pound decline. so that was to use the word brutal was interesting. soften, i was kind of -- to hear -- >> softness. >> the word softness. >> and in the conference call they are talking about basically weakness is the word they used in the conference call, keith block, co-president, talked about how a section of july was weak. i'm giving marc the benefit of the doubt and face value. why? because he didn't lower the year revenue. >> right. >> third time he's raised. more importantly he did spell out his own execution, and it's rare for a ceo to say listen we didn't execute well. typically what they would say is the environment got tough. he did not say the environment got tough or price competition, but david, it is highly unusual for a high multiple stock to be able to withstand any onslaught if the company does come out and say they had execution risk. i do not know -- they bought demand ware that mattered and quips.
take their eye off the ball, you can't tell. i know this happened a couple years -- maybe half dozen an years ago about four years ago and the stock came right back. i am saying that i think that this is going to be made up, that don't forget dream force is starting in october. introduce this einstein product. i feel salesforce explained it. analysts were saying there was no clarity. i thought the clarity was there, that we didn't do that good of a job. we are not used to hearing executives say that. >> they typically do not have execution issues. >> as a matter of fact, i think they're the most flawless of all tech. >> looking at notes from the research community, been some time since they have had an execution issue so this came as a surprise. >> it was a surprise. this is a company that fires on all 12 cylindsilcylinders like , not the 750. the verticals are good. i think that the can customer wins are good. a lot of talk about united health doing good. big wins. but the fact is that i think people are saying, did marc
benioff take his eye off the ball and i would say everyone is entitled -- do we pull joe dimaggio from the lineup in the 57th game he didn't get a hit. this is one where you give him the benefit of the doubt. they've delivered. and they were very candid and straight forward and did not blame the economic environment. they blamed themselves. had they blamed the economic environment i would have had to call them on that. i've seen strength, not weakness, since july. >> we'll talk more about salesforce and perhaps m&a as well. to ford auto sales with phil lebeau in chicago. phil? >> hi, david. ford coming in with an august auto sales decline of 8.4%. that's a little bit better than the estimate from edmonds.com which was forecasting a decline of 9.8%. keep in mind, the august auto sales are in comparison with august of last year and it was a huge august last year. so almost all of the automakers are going to be showing some type of a decline for ford the retail sales were down 8%.
when you look at trucks which have been in demand the most, the decline is looking about 1 to 2%. so overall, not terrible, not great, but it's what we expected with august this year. comparison with august of last year which was huge. remember, guys, the sales rate what is everybody is focused on and the sales rate is likely to come in somewhere in that 17.2, 17.3 million range. down compared to last year, but any time you're over 17 million i think most will say we'll take it. get gm in about ten minutes. >> all right. phil, we'll see you then in ten minutes with gm's auto sales. up next, jim's mad dash to the opening -- to as we count down to the opening bell. take a look at futures. as we are about ten minutes away from that open here. more "squawk on the street" coming right ahead.
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♪ seven minutes before we get started trading here at the nyse and, obviously, on all exchange you want to talk campbell soup in the mad dash. they reported earnings. >> mea culpa 24 hours. my ceo on the fly reinventing this company trying to become more naturally organic writes in the release, the decline the surprise in 46 cents versus 50 that we're looking for. why, driven predominantly by execution issues is disappointing up top. she takes the blame. i like that.
decline in organic sales. i don't like 1% decline. still expects to do 0 to 1%. people hear the numbers and think benioff is apologetic about a plus 25% growth. the fact you have to deliver some organic growth if you're in the food business. declines in carrot and carrot ingredients. snacks and simple meals and beverages, delivering significant margin expansion. wasn't all bad. did boost the dividend but david, this is a stock that had a great run as they converted the company into more natural and organic. people are finding over and over again natural organic isn't so simple. that's why i thought whitewave got out correctly and hain we're still waiting for financials. >> hain with the accounting problem and potential issues there. for campbell there continues to be murmurs of more consolidation coming in the sector. campbell's certainly one name you hear from time to time. there is some control there. >> right. that's not as bad as hershey trust in terms but i will point out this, david, this is still a
great company and it has been coveted for years but it is always a bridesmaid never a bride. so pane times people buying the 60 calls, it never happens, but snacks are good, don't overlook the fact that even though it's canned soup they've made some good changes. this bold house farms acquisition was superb. >> less sodium in the soup. >> yes. they've done a lot of right things. i had denise on recently. i like many of the natural and organic products. my wife says look, jim, it's still a can of soup. but the fact is, it's far more than that. they've really reinvented kept. when you reinvent, frankly, sometimes you do make execution errors. >> right. >> and they did. >> going to suffer despite what you pointed out, the 12% increase in the company's dividend. >> campbell bun of many stocks we will be watching. the opening bell quickly approaches. stay with us, "squawk on the street." what if a company that didn't make cars
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you're watching cnbc's "squawk on the street" live from the financial capital of the world. the opening bell is going to be ringing in about a minute from now, jim. >> yeah. >> financials, had a very strong performance. >> very. >> in august. you have certainly cited them as being one of the keys we've talked about your belief that we will potentially see a rate increase. >> yes. >> in this month of september. do you keep buying financials. >> yes. and the answer is, is that this group when this as long as citi trades ten bucks below tangible book value, bank of america at tangible book value, jpmorgan mass earnings momentum, as long as wells fargo sees an increase in the amount of mortgage, mortgages these home numbers are very strong and housing punches above, thank you for giving me that line, i think this group remains the easiest to buy. is what i would say. >> although it has disappointed in the past just when you thought they were getting the wind at their backs. >> look, look, with no rate hike i'm dead wrong.
you need a rate hike. two rate hikes you will have the best upside surprise of any group in the market. >> all right. you hear the applause building here, the opening bell should ring at about now. >> back at cnbc's headquarters. at the big board global citizen celebrating the fifth year of the companygroup's festival tea to help kids across america to help kids struggling. >> i've looked at habit and done burger war stories, burgers had a big move and now a huge pullback. >> right. >> look, the restaurant group has been so uneven, it's really extraordinary. you can't make a single desoings any -- decision on this. >> phil has gm numbers for us. phil? >> david down 5.2% last month for general motors, better than the edmonds.com estimate
forecasting a greater decline in sales. the comparison was with the august of last year, very strong. general motors did see a slight uptick in overall inventory. people will keep an eye on that. not to the point where it's worrisome up from 66 days to 74 days, supply, but one other thing to keep in mind, they are looking at a light vehicle sales rate, for the industry, at 17.2 million. guys, that's going to be down compared with august of last year. 17.2 million. still very strong. i wouldn't say we're at the point of saying we're seeing a noticeable decline in sales. certainly we're at that plateau moment though. >> yeah. although again, phil, as you point out, that's not a bad number. anything above 17. we haven't hit that that often, have we? >> only three times. only three times have you seen annual sales over 17. >> yeah. >> there's no -- >> thank you. >> phil lebeau. >> august proving to be an odd month. for instance, costco we have to notice down, costco did not
do -- they did a number that was okay and people looking for 2.4. not good traffic there. lack luster results. my travel trust owns it. we've sold some higher. i have to tell you this is again one of those stories where the inconsistency is maddening. okay. the inconsistencinconsistency. now stock down. look, it's a pure overreaction but the stock had a big move after they changed the credit cards, had left american express. but this stock is a stock that's incredibly volatile in a market that's thin. the idea that this can go down say 10 of which i think would be really ludicrous on the small miss is the kind of thing that shows you even though it's september not a lot of people around. typically some want to buy costco say listen great long-term story. people are not thinking long term right now. >> they're not. >> no. because i think this is a market where people have kind of just said if you screw up, i'll catch you next quarter. >> right. the auto numbers.
>> is there a discount being applied to the automakers in terms of discounting their cash flow back i don't know how many years you want to. >> driverless cars. >> i am. >> you have to. >> right. look, we've seen let's put it this way, remember there was a moment when we saw pcs hit a level where we just realized that pcs could not grow to the sky anymore. you had to sell the stocks. and it's been -- i mean intel breaking out here but that's because there's other things going on in the semiconductor world. i think that it's happening. i think there's too many stories and companies doing things that are very impressive and that the -- this is not toyota coming in against gm. this is not the reckoning great book, be about ford. but what it does say is that you can't pay as much. the multiples are low. >> right. >> these and the airlines, you know, i had oscar munoz on last night, the ceo, you will see not great numbers from that group. a lot of that is --
>> they can generate a lot of cash and not sitting still. ford is being aggressive when it comes to autonomous. gm has the significant stake in lift. they have made a number of significant acquisitions. the basics of the idea that we're going to have these fleets of autonomous vehicles is they're going to be used a lot more efficiently and therefore a lot fewer people buying cars. >> i think that when you mention lyft, people understand the reasons those are factors people no longer the moment they turn 16, 17 get a driver's license. there are lots of people we have numbers that actually show that the average age of when people get a car is later. student loan debt often plays a role and whether you can afford a car. i think that you look at the auto nation numbers, the car max numbers not great numbers in resale value. yeah, i don't like the group. i weighed in with my travel trust, cash flow numbers this is not the 1980s where you expected regular dividend boost and ford and gm were the income producer
for you, 5, 6% yield. that's not happening. if it gets there because the cash is building so much, become munis. >> you mentioned oscar munoz the ceo of cups nental united. >> had him on yesterday. >> been in the job about a year. and that heart transplant just hired a new president. >> scott kirby gets fired at american air and then he's hired instantly because he's regarded as oscar said on "mad money," if they fired lebron james we will pick up lebron james. >> here's what he had to say about business in september. >> the energy sector is hurt, hurting big. the banking world and consulting world continues at a moderate pace. we hope to see the uptick we see when people get back to work. >> what do we make of that? >> i think we will see weakness and these numbers that come out for the month and people say
that's why these stocks sell. we talked about herb keller and the southwest air and how we felt that these are the [ inaudible ] days. there's price cutting, competition, capacity coming on. in the end united continental has improved its metrics. >> right. >> and they all had a great run prior to -- >> the stock -- >> and they are all now i think earning above their cost to capital which they never did as an industry not only that returning capital. it is a different world. >> we talked about -- >> now it may be moving a bit. >> we talked about whether $2 billion buyback is the right thing to do for the cash. the cash is burgeoning. delta. people do not trust these stocks because year over year the numbers are down. and year over year number down situation, equals sell for most managers in this country. they will not own a stock where the numbers are down year over year because they've had so many where the numbers are up. >> right. jim, this morning we've mentioned, of course, salesforce, we've mentioned campbell's. we've mentioned a couple others. anything else that's hit your
radar that we mentioned costco. >> you know -- >> that we should be keeping an eye on as we get started this morning. >> here's one that, you know, i've been very hot on which is walgreens. put on the focus credit suisse. when i read through it, it does feel that maybe we're going to get some sort of movement with this rite aid deal. if we don't, well, suspended animation situation. it is above -- this is a p/e, p/e owned a lot of this. but you know what, that could be very interesting. then just give you something to write off positive. we had numbers of macau yesterday. sounds weird, in macau revenue up 1%. june minus 8.5%. i monitor, thank you matt horwin, the flights into mccarron and they're up very big. vegas is booming. if you want to do this in a low risk way, do mgm. >> that's what i was going to say. of course you have two companies to choose from now with the rehabbing been spun. they control it. >> right.
>> but you can do mgm because that's where their business has focused. penalized to a certain extent for not having participated greatly in the growth as caesars did also but caesars has itsish auto shus. >> las vegas, sands, i have been fascinated with the career of steve wynn who tells it like it is on the conference call. he doesn't understand the game. >> you pointed out mr. wynn bought stock. >> a huge amount of stock in the '50s because he had faith and these numbers indicate that's right. the stock had a run. we had some kind of squishness in mckau. if this trend continues how weak is china. will they bring the jungettes back. junkets were part of that so-called soft corruption style. so there we go. >> okay. . jim, we have breaking news here out of cape canaveral. a spacex rocket failure on the launch pad. a plume of smoke could be seen from the distance. take a look here. i think you can see it now in the pictures.
nbc's jay barbri reports no injuries. but we will have more information on this story as it becomes available. the rocket was scheduled to be launched this weekend. again, no injuries but not sure about the fate of the rocket. >> wow. >> for spacex. by the way, we didn't talk about tesla or solar city. >> there's numbers in the "wall street journal" reporting they came out "the wall street journal" reporting about the need to continue to raise cash through whatever means they can at both tesla and particularly solar city. >> i use ax eyam's numbers. a firm that does good work on actual installs. california applications for rooftop solar down 23.8% month to month. now down 42% year over year. that's bed rock for solar city. i mean if you actually -- people tend to think well, it's a musk company doing fine. it's solar and first solar being hurt by the price competition from overseas.
you don't want to touch these on an earnings basis. might want to touch it on emerging markets elon musk is a brillianten. >> and found an ability to raise capital where he needed it to fund both of these companies. >> high growth, notice that salesforce is being given the benefit of the doubt. >> yeah. >> stock is up nicely from the down 5.6 it was last night. anybody who's candid enough to come on air and say listen, we didn't do a good job executing i like that. >> we do. all right. somebody else we like is dom chu, not that we don't love bob pisani, bob on the floor with what's moving this morning. >> good morning, david. again just to talk about a little bit about what's happening with the markets. one of the traders tell me sarcastically hey the september volatility is back, the s&p is up 1 or 2 points. the still markets kind of continuing into the first trading day so far. if you take a look at the early trading action there is a bit of a standout coming out and that is in the cyclical side of things. we've been noticing overall with modest fractional gains in the
stock market overall, that we have seen the financial stocks showing a little bit of at least early month strength to start september here. also, industrial stocks moving to the upside as well so far in the early trade. little too early to tell so far. but, consumer staples like you talked with campbell's probably weighing that sector down, off by about a quarter of 1%. the energy sector down lower crude prices, $44, handle on west texas intermediate a focus there as well and one more kind of key to look at here as we kind of wrap things up with the energy trade one of the standouts in august. we'll see if it maybe can hold on to those. if you look within the energy sector itself, guys, the xle the spider energy sector etf has been performing overall. within that energy sector the exploration and production companies in the month of august xop is the ticker there, one of the big etfs that tracks it up much more than the oil services companies. so as you take a look at the
energy trade we'll see if those trends continue given the fact that the oil prices try to bottom out in the 44, $45 range for west texas intermediate. >> thank you very much, dom chu. >> i don't know if we can hold there. a lot of issues -- >> do a faber report here. a lot of chatter about twitter lately. people can look at the stock price. it's up another 1.5%. this after a big move yesterday. you got a lot of hedge funds talking to each other and sending around clips of interviews. in particular, one that attracted a great deal of interest was an interview not done here, to be fair, but on bloomberg, on tuesday with ed williams who's a board member of the company, one of its founders some time back. who in answering the question about whether twitter will remain an independent company said, after -- and again a lot of e-mails sending this around he smirked and stalled and said i don't have any comment, twitter is in a strong position
and as a board member we have to consider the right options. people are focused on that in particular. as being a sign perhaps of some sort of change in tone, amongst for mr. williams. take a look at a year ago to what he was saying no stranger anybody following this company when asked said not at this time. probably all kinds of legal things i need to know to answer that question properly. so as i said before there's credible potential on twitter and the board will do whatever it needs to do. draw your own conclugsz if you want. what i will tell you is this about twitter, next week september 8th an important board meeting that mr. williams will be in attendance at along with all the other members of the board. and i have been led to believe that certainly amongst the discussion at that board meeting will be the future growth rate of this company and what the options will be if that growth rate continues to be anemic. by anemic i mean what are they going to do, 5%, 6. can they get the growth engine
moving at a company that as we know has not seen significant growth in monthly users. and that board is well aware of the threat of an activist investor. i know a number they're taking a look if not taking small positions. that's what activists do. don't draw great conclusions that means there will be some big battle here, but they are taking a look with the idea that if twitter does do nothing, let's say, on that front and they believe that there are potentially buyers for the company, there is the possibility come december when the window opens, that you will have an activist there. that is no stranger to the thinking of a number of these board members who will be meeting next week and so it could conceivably end up being an important meeting for twitter, one at which at least a number of the board members expressed the opinion that hey if we're really on a target of growing at this level, we need to think long and hard about our options which comes back, of course, to the -- to what mr.
williams' answer was yesterday in saying, very -- that very thing. we need to consider the right option. mr. dorsey for his part on the interviews he's done most recently with julia boorstin on this subject has had little to say, but he's not necessarily in control. there's the issue of him being a ceo of two companies. for example, iss come down on that, but guys who weigh proxy battles and what side and jim, you're no stranger to this idea. you even asked benioff yesterday about twitter in particular, he didn't answer that question at all. >> no. i had to. i'll tell you why. we had gone into the discussion about linkedin and why he decided to bid for that, cara swisher breaking that story he had been aggressive on it. he described the situation, gave us parameters where you have social mobile cloud, stock down 50%, window that's going to be closing by calendar year end and property grab and so i looked at that and said well what fits that. those parameters.
that's twitter. because the stock is down more than 50%, cloud mobile, social, i believe that asset could be used in many different ways to be able to have much more customer retention. you can use it for customer retention and use it for -- there could be a cloud, mark has a bunch of clouds, einstein, a new cloud on artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence predicative component to twitter not used by twitter. >> there is a conceivably an argument to be made to why crm would be potentially interested. >> i think should buy it. >> there are some people that say the daily average user is not going up. >> 30 million people are using this every day and everybody else doesn't matter. >> you can dream dreams about what this thing can look like versus what it is now. it's an under utilized asset by people who are always trying to figure out very small, minusc e minuscule, small think ideas to move the needle ever so slightly. and marc benioff, this could be used as a way to be able to do customer management that only companies would dream of in
terms of personal service interest a bank. he just met with -- he had just met with bank of america management the other day. i could see this fitting in very well with a customer. >> we will see whether that opportunity arises. >> i think it makes sense. that's my idea it makes sense because it fits the parameters. i'm looking at the parameters an coming up with that. >> well, again, a week from today potentially an important board meeting for that company. i would point out no insider trading there. bond pits rick santelli at the cme group in chicago. take it away, rick. >> thanks, david. you know, long end, 10s, toying with the top of the recent range. august is the range basically. two day of 10s maybe more appropriate the one week. yes, we are touching the top. bunds no different. they've sold all the way off to minus 4 basis points. but dollar index, one week of that chart has been more on the firm side. it looks like treasuries are actually catching up with the dollar which may have had it right and investors psyche and some of the fed speak last week.
dollar/yen, this is fascinating. we have one session under 100. 18th of august. today could be the seventh session in a row the dollar is doing better. the last chart this is the pound versus the dollar from february to give it some distance. the double bottom is in place. still for the most part think the pound will be improving against the greenback. back to you. >> thank you very much. rick santelli. a preview of tonight's cnbc documentary "ground zero rising" reported by jim cramer after this break.
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martelllo we had grown up since 6 years old three houses a i way and always like brothers, really. co-captains of the football team. the best man at my wedding. my wife and i loved him to death. this is jimmy's name here. >> just one of so many who died on the ground that day. it was overwhelming for greg and for a long time, he couldn't bring himself to return. >> for five or six years i avoided it like the plague, actually. i was shell shocked. it was hard. >> so many feel felt that way. it's what he did next that really set him apart. >> all right. i'm going to want to see. >> there's -- look, when you -- there's 15 years, i taught a lot about this where were you 15 years later from pearl harbor. david, the editor of "the new yorker," called it our gettysburg. should it be anything other than
remembrance and honor. what i'm trying to do in this documentary is put a perspective on, as david also told me, life is messy. here we are. we are trying -- put a coalition together that ended up with something that is i think amazing to behold that is respectful and that i want everyone to go to ground zero. it's not really ground zero anymore. it's a -- go to a 16 acre site that i think has accomplished something that i would never have thought happened which is put both things in perspective about the horror and the sadness, and also restore the luster of a great part of new york and maybe take it to a different level. i loved doing this. it was very hard because i didn't want to go back either. i was fearful. but i was too fearful. i was too fearful. i came back. i said who would want to work there. i came back thinking me. i would want to work there. >> well, be sure to watch tonight "ground zero rising freedom vs. fear" a cnbc documentary airing at 10:00 eastern right here on cnbc. got stop trading coming up with jim. i know you're my financial advisor,
but are you gonna bring up that stock again? well you need to think about selling some of it. my dad gave me those shares, you know. he ran that company. i get it. but you know i think you own too much. gotta manage your risk. and you've gotta switch to decaf. an honest opinion, even if you disagree. with 13,000 financial advisors, it's how edward jones makes sense of investing.
five below a company that makes inexpensive trinkets sells them and this is a company that i read it and said this was a good conference call. why is it going down. it shouldn't have been going down. they guided a little weaker, but i think this company is a remarkable company. when dollar general and dollar tree blew up those stocks were down big. here give them a pass. >> and they seem to be getting it. what do we have on mad tonight? >> i am going to digest -- give you the whole thing on the salesforce. i want to go back over this because people have to understand not all shortfalls are created equal, david. >> understood. all right. crm. >> and then my doc tonight. >> are you back tomorrow? here tomorrow? >> i'm here. >> all right. coming up, former u.s. ambassador to mexico offers his perspective on donald trump. keep it here.
post nine at the new york stock exchange. carl quintanilla has today off. a look at how we're faring on the markets as you see, let's call it flat. can we do that. we're up on the nasdaq. a look at oil which has been quite weak lately. you heard jim on the last hour of "squawk on the street" talking about the huge reserves held here in the u.s. at all-time highs and wondering whether he can hold that $44 level. we will have economic data by the way crossing the tape. right now i believe rick santelli, do you have those numbers? >> i do, david. yes. they've come and gone athere's surprises here. if i look at the july read on construction spending it's a lot less than the half of 1%, goose egg, unchanged. do we get horsepower on the revision. down 0.6% for june. turns out to be up 0.9%, up 1%. a big 1.5% swing. now here's the bad news. very low read. second lowest read of the year when it comes to ism at 49.1.
only number lower was july at 48.2. this is the third sub-50 read and, of course, that sequen sequentially follows 52.6. there are some spots that we should underscore with employment coming out this week, the employment index which is already under 50, move further under. last look it was 49.4, now it's 48.3. if we look at prices paid, 49.1 is the number following a -- i'm sorry that's new orders, 49.1 versus 56.9. so a real deterioration here. this looks like chicago than the national number and we want to pay close attention because rates were starting to move higher, let's see if they stall in their tracks. back to you. >> disappointing number for sure. rick, thank you. we do also have breaking news this morning out of cape
canaveral we're finding out about. morgan brennan is a few miles from there. in florida tracking this story. morgan? >> hi, sara. take a look at this we will show you video that was just shot a short while ago, a spacex explosion that took place a few short miles from here at cape canaveral air force station on a launch pad. this is likely very likely the spacex falcon 9, scheduled for the amos 6 mission an israeli satellite that spacex was scheduled to launch into orbit this saturday at 3:00 a.m. we've reached out to spacex for comment and still waiting to hear back. so currently unclear what exactly caused this explosion. but the good news here is that nbc is reporting there are no injuries. keep in mind any time something like this happens it is a setback for the company and this case, spacex, and not just in terms of the mission itself, which keep in mind had been delayed a number of times already, but also, for broader company timelines.
again, just a few short miles from here, spacex rocket exploding on the cape canaveral launch pad. back to you and we will bring you details as we get them. >> a lot of smoke blowing out there. thank you for the update. we will check back in as we learn more. just hours after meeting mexican president enrique pena nieto in mexico city donald trump reiterating his tough stance on illegal immigration speech in phoenix last night. he called for a deportation task force. have a listen. >> we are going to triple the number of i.c.e. deportation offices. within i.c.e., i am going to create a new special deportation task force, focused on identifying and quickly removing the most dangerous criminal illegal immigrants in america. >> let's talk about all this for more we are joined now from
washington by democratic strategist morris reed, former rubio senior adviser alex coneit and trump/pence campaign senior adviser boris epstein. boris, start with you since you're here. >> sure. >> what happened to the softening to use trump's word, in the immigration policy? >> all of that softening, talk, the media that was zeroing in on any one word. mr. trump has always been consistent on immigration. the first step in terms illegal immigration is to build a wall and mexico will pay for the wall. next make sure all illegal immigrants that are criminals are deported. end sanctuary cities, including this one, around the country, in which illegal immigrants are able to roam free. end catch and release. and make sure e-verify is put in place and mandate all over the country. that's been consistent since day one of donald trump's candidacy.
>> one thing we don't know, good to get more details on the plan but don't know how he's going to pay for it. the wall, which there seems to be some confusion after the mexican visit yesterday and the deportation task force that he mentioned last night. >> he's talking about tripling them out of i.c.e. agent ps we're seeing just under obama term, 300,000 illegal immigrants or criminals have been allowed to roam free in the last several years in this country. ice needs more support. as far as the wall is concerned this was a first meeting yesterday with president nieto. you have the meeting first and get the check. the paying for the wall was not discussed and the wall was. even president nieto acknowledged we need a barrier between u.s. and mexico. hillary clinton said the same thing in '08 before we flip flopped on it like she's flip flopped on everything else like tpp and everything else. it's a choice between donald trump who will keep american people safe and secured and employed and hillary clinton who wants 100 day amnesty, 550%
increase in syrian refugees and not have a country again. >> morris, i'll let you respond to any and all of that. >> i don't think it's necessary to respond. boris is consistent with the talking points that republican party has handed down. i think that donald trump's play to his audience in phoenix, played to his audience in mexico. there is a problem with our border system that needs to be addressed. i'm not sure threatening and telling, bullying people is the way to go, but there are problems with our immigration system that need to be addressed by both candidates and need to be thoughtful, they need to be comprehensive, and they need to be consistent to what -- that's not going to be an impediment to the continual growth of our economy. so i think that both candidates, donald trump and hillary clinton, need to really look at this comprehensively and do what's in the best interest of the economy first, and safety as well. >> alex, i'll turn to you now.
republican party, who he spoke to last night, and who it's resonating with. >> i think yesterday was the most interesting day of the campaign so far. you saw mr. trump make his first foreign trip going to mexico. it was a very successful trip. even clinton supporters would acknowledge that trump looked good on that stage in mexico, looked presidential, probably the best moment of his campaign so far. and then you had the rally last night where he was as the democrats were saying talking to his base, getting back to basics, i think on a trajectory, mr. trump is losing this campaign, on a trajectory to lose in november. he has to get back to basics. yesterday was a good day because he got the images of him looking presidential and then also talking to republicans reminding them why he he thinks republicans need to support his candidacy. a lot still aren't. >> alex, my good friend to disagree with you in terms of the trajectory. look at the polls, donald trump gained 7 points in the in the
fox news polls and gaining in the rasmussen poll and up in the l.a. polls. doing well in florida. ohio. >> he is. >> pennsylvania. >> as far as the trajectory, i would say that if anything, hillary clinton is absolutely losing and donald trump's polls are sky rocketing because the americans see the binary choice between hillary clinton and w.h.o. is a tired candidate, doesn't have fresh ideas and donald trump who is bringing the few ideas. >> i was just going to say the electoral college is very challenging. i think anyone would acknowledge that. and currently, he's trailing in the polls. i don't think that he -- he could still make up ground and part of that starts with bringing republicans behind his candidac candidacy, getting 80 or 85% support, needs more than 90% for this to be a close race. >> if you look at income k -- >> you guys know -- >> we're up in north carolina now. >> boris you know as well i know -- >> up in michigan and ohio. >> good, morris. >> my colleagues know that polls really don't matter. it's a snapshot in time.
>> right. >> it has nothing to do with whether this race will be won or lost by either candidate. what both candidates needs to do is try to focus and resonate with the american people. there is still some anxiety in the economy. whoever is going to be able to make the case to those americans the swing states americans in ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, arizona, whoever can make the case they're the best canndidat will win. donald trump has been up, we've been down, they've been down, it doesn't matter. >> the economy -- >> who connects in the last three weeks of the campaign. >> 68 days to go. >> hearing more from trump on the plans for economic growth and the fact that we have not seen a year in the obama presidency of 3% growth. shouldn't he be talking more about that? >> of course. and that was part of the discussion. even today we're talking to the veterans in this country who have been hurt by the obama economy, of course donald trump is talk about the economy and
simplified tax bracket, simpler bracket, four brackets, 15% corporate tax rate and the fact that we need jobs in this country. an immigration debate is a trade economics debate. this country has lost 700,000 jobs to nafta and we need those jobs to come back. just under tpp we would lose 2 million more. we need to fix that and make sure hillary clinton is not in place. >> she's against it. >> she was for it now maybe against it. >> on clinton on trade and how she will frame the economic growth case. >> listen, she needs to really hone in on her message and i would agree with my colleagues having said this but until she's able to get these issues like the internet and all these e-mails behind her she allows trump to poke at her she needs to focus on the economic issues that matter. there is anxiety in pockets of our country and whoever addresses them will win. you have donald trump and clinton who are putting ideas forward but there's so much noise that no one is paying
attention to what they're saying substantively. change the narrative to seem focus on what matters and connect with them and try to win this race. >> hose are good points by morris. hillary clinton has been around for so long show, so she can't make the argument she's going to change things. that's what donald trump is going to do when elected president. >> we can talk about this and we will much more, thanks to all of you for weighing in here. morris reed, alex coit in and boris epstein. >> thank you so much. apple's ceo tim cook speaking out against the european commissioner a ruling apple should pay $14.5 billion in backs taxes to ireland telling the irish independent newspaper, quote, no one did anything wrong here and ireland is being picked on. it is total political crap. cook spoke with the irish broadcaster about the ruling. listen. >> it's maddening. it's maddening, it's disappointing. it's clear this comes from a political place.
it has no basis in fact or in law. and unfortunately, it's one of those things we have to work through. >> cook also said he may repatriate some of the billions of cash that apple holds offshore as early as next year. the tough anti-trust cop of the european commission that handed down the ruling responding to that in brussels this morning saying this is not politically motivated and defended the idea that the european commission is overstepping when it comes to national government policy and said this is a european matter and involves profits made or at least reported here and so she has total authority to do so. >> this what is we do. i think the final piece about cook saying they may repatriate billions to the u.s. really is the neggette of news here. no commitment in the direction but if he wants to strike that tone that's a possibility. is that anticipating some kind of lower tax rate on repatriated
earnings. >> or do it at a full tax rate, $216 billion in cash and lick keds securities overseas. a number almost hard to conceive of. >> worried $60 billion for the purpose of not bringing the cash back here. >> maybe waiting for tax reform. >> refreshing to hear him say political crap. you never get to hear ceos talk like that but how much frustration there is. coming to the u.s. in september and going to be meeting with treasury secretary jack lew and done so in the past. clearly they do not agree on the results here. >> they don't. i think it's interesting that really, the european commission has been isolated in this. a lot of criticism from different directions. doesn't mean they're wrong. it's interesting everyone is willing to join together and criticize. the mechanics of this decision at least. >> yeah. a huge show ahead it says here. we're going to have more on trump's visit to mexico and what's ahead for clinton's meeting.
we'll speak with the former ambassador to mexico, earl anthony wayne. plus, tonight watch "ground zero rising freedom vs. fear," that's a new cnbc documentary, reported by our very own jim cramer that airs at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on cnbc. in honor of the premier we will speak with the designer of the 9/11 memorial michael arad. stay with us. much more ahead on "squawk on the street." when whirlpool builds an appliance, they put everything they know into it. but once it's sold, there usually isn't a way to keep improving that product. today, whirlpool can analyze iot sensor data from connected appliances on the ibm cloud. so they can continuously learn how customers are using their products. and how the machines respond. harnessing data to make great products better - that's what the ibm cloud is built for.
markets are awaiting tomorrow's jobs number but we could be in for a volatile month. historically september seen average up or down moves of 4.5% making it the second most volatile month of the year. for more on the september trade we're joined by cantor fitzgerald bill nickels and hans, global head of investment strategy at stifel wealth and investment management. nice to see you here. more volatile month than the one we came from which had very low volatility. your expectation is for economic growth to pick up a bit. what's that going to mean? >> i think we're going to continue the path we've been on for the better part of this year which is an economy that continues to move higher holding
unemployment lower and with it putting pressure on prices and essentially meeting the fed's dual mandate. at some point they have to adjust their interest rate policy accordingly. >> is that september or not? >> who knows. it's like counting the number of angels that dance on the head of a pin trying to figure that out. from an investors' perspective set what you think their policy will end up being, and then match your portfolio accordingly. >> which means what? >> in our case what we've done is we've been under weight, large cap u.s. equities and we've been under weight, bonds. so it forces a slight overweight to cash and we've kind of put most of our fixed income assets in shorter duration securities at this juncture, preparing for what we think will be an inevitability. >> right. you've lost some opportunity there though this year if you've been doing that, haven't you? >> overall between our capital commitments in the year,
tactical commitments, owned gold, took that off had a nice gain, had enough equity exposure and enough credit exposure to make the overall portfolio run ahead. >> bill, let me get to you. obviously the fomc meeting is going to be a key one. what are your expectations? >> well, i think first we have to get by tomorrow's number and if you get, you know, something 180, 200, probably raises the probability for a september move. but right now we're still seeing a 40%. it's still 60/40 against them moving in september and almost assured a move in december. but we'll see. i mean, a solid jobs number tomorrow all of a sudden no other economic data in between and all of a sudden looking at a september rate hike which would be interesting. >> bill, you know, the august action as calm as it was below the surface you had this pronounced move towards cyclical stocks, financials, the markets seeming to try to trend in that direction perhaps, i wonder, where are your clients seemingly positioned? it's been so important this year
to know what built in expectations there are among investors. is everybody on this cyclical trade as far as you can tell? >> well, it's a grinding rotation and you saw everybo everybody -- the banks and if you were lucky enough to buy them on brexit day you got a 15% rally in several weeks. you've been able to participate. energy, very much unloved last year. it was marked to the lows in january. obviously with crude rallying above 50 to $54, bounceback in energy and you've seen it go the other way with crude down to 44 all of a sudden down 5, 6, 7% off the highs. there's a grinding rotatiorotat. the market is comfortable moving sideways to slightly higher. sideways for two months. but depending on what group you're in, it's made sense to take some money off the table, utilities, telecoms ahead of themselves and pulled back, 5, 6, 7, 8%. seeing moves in the underlying groups with sideways action in the overall index.
>> did you guys see the manufacturing number that just came out at the top of the hour? below 50 which shows contraction. that was a surprisingly weak data point. >> yeah. >> something to worry about there. >> came in weaker than expected. i looked at the history of that number. i read after it came out. what -- it's interesting we saw something similar last time this year, but yet it didn't portend anything greater for the economy. it's what, only 10, 12% of the economy, the rest of it is service based. the numbers there seem fine. so, you know, it's a data point. >> in other words the fed won't worry about a single manufacturing data point like they would jobs? >> i'm sure they'll worry about it. build they do something about it is a different matter altogether. i think overall they could comfortably raise interest rates but they're not calling me. >> bill and hans, want to thank you both for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> when we come back, chinese e-commerce companies expressing worry over anti-globalization
sentiment ahead of this year's g-20 summit. we will hear from alibaba founder jack ma. shares of campbell soup, the food company here getting hit down almost 5% after reporting earnings and a slight quarterly fall in sales calling performance of its fresh foods disappointing. had a bit of a carrot issue, had to write down some of those carrot assets. ahead on "squawk on the street."
alibaba founder and executive chairman jack ma speaking out ahead of the g-20 summit in china. eunice sat down with mr. ma and joins us with more from that interview. hello, eunice. >> hey, thanks so much. well jack ma is here to chair discussions with hundreds of businesses around the g-20 summit and the g-20 summit is coming at a time which is a challenging time for the global
economy but told me he is positioning the company well for the future. as you guys know, he has stepped back from the day-to-day running of the company but still does shape the strategic vision and said he wants the company to move further away from the core business of e-commerce here in china and into new areas, such as cloud computing, finance, as well as logistics. this is what he had to say. >> we are infrastructure of commerce in china. we already gone from e-commerce to commerce. so we're giving up ecommerce platform so everybody small business can buy and sell. second we're building up is e-financing. we are giving loans and giving financial support to everybody in china. we have, you know, more than half billion people using our l ali pay and finance centers.
we are building up logistic centers, any business in the future, you want to use cheap and sophisticated logistic system. >> and he also said that that diversification is going to be even further reflected in the way the company reports numbers. currently he said that we will see the company no longer relying so heavily on gross merchandise volume and a key gauge for e-commerce firms and said the company is going to really look more closely at four segments and try to break out the numbers that way. this is what he had to say. >> when people focus too much on the gmv, and then they forget about we have a much bigger business on the financing. we have a much bigger business on cloud computing. we have a much bigger business on the entertainment side. so i think in the past two
years, we are learning how to communicate with the investors. we're so popular in china, such a big household name in china but investors in the states don't know anything about us. >> and he said that the way that the reporting is done is really essential to try to communicate better with american investors. another, though, message that he had for the g-20 leaders here was that globalization is very important and without it he said would be a disaster of course. weighing in on a very key issue here, the concerns about rising trade sentiments. over to you. >> a message i think we're going to hear a lot more of this week as g-20 kicks off. thank you. always good to hear from jack ma. let's send it to morgan brennan in florida, getting word now, from spacex, on this explosion. >> that's right. so in regards to the spacex rocket that exploded this morning a few short miles from
here at cape canaveral, spacex is confirming that in preparation for today's static fire, there was an anomaly on the pad resulting in the loss of the vehicle and its payload. per standard procedure, the pad was clear and there were no injuries. this was the spacex falcon 9 scheduled to take the amos 6 satellite into orbit this saturday at 3:00 a.m. it was made by israel aerospace industries for israeli military use. also, facebook had a $95 million deal over the next five years to get regional coverage through that satellite for internet.org. we've reached out to both companies as well. we're still awaiting comment. i can tell you a source telling me that quote/unquote amos 6 is gone. so that is, again, spacex confirming the rocket explosion that happened here at cape canaveral this morning. back over to you. >> thank you, morgan. interesting, satellite was on there as well.
i'm sharon epperson. your news update at this hour. spacex has confirmed a rocket explosion at its launch site in cape canaveral, florida, this morning in advance of a planned saturday launch. spacex says there were no injuries but the rocket and payload were lost. tropical storm hermine pounding st. petersburg, florida, overnight. heavy rain causing wide street flooding. the national hurricane center says areas can expect between 10 and 20 inches of rain. a tropical storm warning has been issued from the east coast from florida to south carolina. walmart announcing it will launch its winter holiday layaway program on friday. customers can put items as low as $10 on layaway with a $50
minimum basket and have until december 12th to pay off their account. georgetown university says it will offer an admissions edge to descendents of 272 slaves. this as part of its ongoing process to acknowledge and respond to its historical ties to slavery and will engage with the descendents of slaves in the ongoing effort. that's our news update for this hour. over to bertha coombs at the nymex with the eia inventory report. >> thanks very much. sharon, we've just got the numbers on natural gas. little bearish, 51 cubic feet -- billion cubic feet injection. slightly less cooling demand last week in part because of a few power plants were down. nonetheless, nat gas right now extending some of the losses this morning after a huge run up yesterday on the prospect that we will continue to see hot weather in the weeks ahead. taking a look at oil, the energy
complex overall under pressure p big problem with oil continues to be we have an awful lot of production, an awful lot in shortage. steven short saying we're entering into hunting season for the oil bulls, particularly after wti nymex crude crashed through its 50 day moving age. the next support level is at around $40.81 a barrel. back to you. >> below 44 right now. bertha, thank you. after a whirlwind trip to mexico donald trump took the hard line when outlining his immigration plan in arizona last night. offering no path to legalization and calling for the creation of a deportation task force. as for his signature issues, since day one, the border wall, here is gop nominee donald trump. >> we did discuss the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall. that will be for a later day. >> we will build a great wall along the southern border.
and mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. they don't know it yet but they will pay for the wall. >> at the same time mexico's president reiterating that his country will not be paying for the wall. and joining us with more insight on this issue and the entire election is the former u.s. ambassador to mexico, tony wayne. ambassador wayne, welcome, good to have you. >> great to be here. thank you. >> "the washington post" headline goes with trump talks tough in arizona and softly in mexico. how would you characterize the last 24 hours of donald trump in? >> there's been a lot more positive attention to the overall relationship in the past couple of days between mexico and the united states. this is the relationship that touches the daily lives of more american citizens than any other relationship in the world.
we trade over a million dollars a minute. 5 to 6 million u.s. jobs depend on what we sell to mexico. mexico is the country, the second largest buyer of u.s. goods. so this is a really important relationship and it's much more complex, much more important to the u.s. than has been clear and the campaign rhetoric up until now. >> having said all that, do you agree with donald trump, though, that mexico has benefited more from nafta than the u.s.? >> i think that we can see that all three of the countries that are members of nafta have benefited significantly. if you look at the serious economic studies of nafta, you find in the agreement that there's been large losses of jobs in the united states. those losses of jobs in other studies are attributed to trade with china and to the introduction of new
manufacturing technology in the united states. the irony is that the number of manufacturing jobs in the u.s. has been declining for decades. at the same time, the output per worker has been going up because of this new technology. but the new technology requires fewer workers and it requires workers that are better trained. >> ambassador, you highlight the economic links and the importance of these connections. you know, one thing that maybe not talked about as much is u.s. employers who may employ many immigrants, mexican and others, faced with something like donald trump is proposing here of constant cruteny -- scrutiny of their credentials and making them always under pressure to try to find undocumented immigrants, is that going to be a business concern? you've already heard agra business say this would be a big problem? >> well, agriculture businesses regularly said they would like to have a clearer system for
allowing the legal presence of workers who come temporarily to help them out in their harvests. and i think other studies have found that that might be the same in service industries, restaurants, and similar kind of industries that need this kind of skill level for their jobs. i think that there is a lot of use that could be made productively in the u.s. economy of people at lower skill levels which would include immigrants. but also u.s. citizens. >> wasn't the goal of nafta to get u.s. companies and manufacturing more competitive? it strikes me that 22 years after the passing of this, mexico is still heavily dependent op exports and most of those exports go to the united states. so is there scope for renegotiating this for more modern economy and get u.s. firms more competitive. >> i think first you have to look at the fact that trade
between canada and mexico and the united states has grown about four times during that period. so there's been a tremendous amount of growth. and in if you look at the history the number of u.s. manufacturing jobs actually grew for the first years of nafta through the 1990s. i think a change came when china entered the competitive field in the world and they were a challenge both for the united states and mexico. but both countries have adapted and a number of the studies that have been done suggest that we were more competitive because we could partner with mexico to create these production chains that spanned both countries and all of north america and that made our products less expensive and we focused on higher technology jobs. you also know well, i'm sure, that manufacturing jobs tied to exports in the united states pay
18% more than other jobs. similarly jobs in the advanced manufacturing tech sectors pay more than jobs do in the broad manufacturing sector. >> it could be a whole long debate and an important one. thank you for joining us. we'll leave it there for now on nafta. ambassador earl anthony wayne, good to see you. >> thank you. thank you. >> when we return, it's been just about 15 years since the 9/11 attacks and the new world trade center is up and running. jim cramer takes a look at the redevelopment of the site in a new documentary "ground zero rising freedom vs. fear" airing tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. plus we speak the architect of the 9/11 memorial michael arad. more ahead on "squawk on the street." ppening here? this is my new alert system for whenever anything happens in the market. but thinkorswim already lets you create custom alerts for all the things that are important to you. i guess we don't need the kid anymore. custom alerts on thinkorswim. only at td ameritrade.
15 years after the 9/11 attacks the world trade center is back in business. jim cramer takes a look at the redevelopment of the site in a new documentary "ground zero rising freedom vs. fear." >> how big a job is this monetary, do you know? >> our phase of the project close to $55 million. >> $55 million for marble and that's just for starters. look how the costs, a mix of public and private money, add up. the completed oculus. one world trade center. on the drawing board, 2 world trade center. three and four world trade. and, the 9/11 memorial and museum. all told, some 14 to $16 billion in public money. billions more in private investment. as head of the port authority of
new york and new jersey, pat overseas the redevelopment. though much of the budget was set before he took office. for example, the oculus. >> how do you justify $4 billion and can the people get their money back? who paid for that? >> i can't justify $4 billion. >> nobody can. "ground zero rising freedom vs. fear" premiers tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on cnbc. now live from the 9/11 memorial, its designer michael arad a partner at handle architects. nice to have you with us. it's been a number of years since the memorial was opened for business. that is your design. were you happy with how everything turned out and as you stand there right now with the completion of the site very near, are you happy with the way everything looks? >> very, very happy. i remember being here 15 years ago and seeing how the site has transformed over that period of time and it feels like it's new
york again. it's taken a while but it feels like an organic part of the city. >> you mentioned it's taken a while. did you ever imagine it would take quite as long as it has? >> no. rome wasn't built in a day. 15 years in the life of the city is a blip, but 15 years in our lives feels like a very long time. the design was selected for the memorial was selected in january of 2004 and i spent eight years working on this project. but it wasn't until a few years ago when finally the construction fences around the memorial came down that it felt complete to me. my office is nearby, i'm a couple blocks away from here and get to see thousands of people every day walk across this memorial people who work here, live here and visiting. and seeing that is incredibly gratifying. seeing the site is part of the urban fabric of the city, day to
day life of the city, it's part of new york again. it means so much. >> yeah. for those that have not been to the memorial, they should. particularly the pool stood out to me at the base of where the towers used to stand. can you go through some of the other details that were part of your original design? >> so, for those of you who can recall, what the wkt uorld trad center used to look like it was a 16 acre super block in the middle of the city. the master plan called for carving up that 16 acre into four discreet city blocks bringing greenwich street and fulcrum back through the site and taking half of the site eight acres and dedicating it to the memorial where the two pools are. those pools mark where the towers once be stood. and so if you think about it, creating an eight acre open space in one of the most dense
urban environments in the world, is remarkable. se setting aside that place for the public for memory, for new york, was a remarkable decision and that preceded my involvement in the project. and then i sent in my proposal for the memorial that should be cited on those eight acres and i wanted to find a way to highlight absence, to highlight emptiness, highlight the sense of what was once here is no longer here, but we still feel its absence. and i initially sketched ideas for a memorial and the hudson river long before this competition imagining the river shore open forming these two square voids. when it came time to design a memorial at the site i took those ideas and tried to bring them here by creating these two empty spaces where the memorial, where the towers had once been. and you can see that water flowing into an abyss but that
abyss remains empty. it never fills up. despite the passage of time, despite the flow of the water, that sense of emptiness and void remains. >> you know, michael, you mentioned that the memorial now sits in what is becoming again an organic part of the >> the memorial became a popular destination as soon as it opened. now that it's near the center of the office and retail complex is there a risk or have you seen any evidence that the memorial doesn't get as much attention or is it treated and used initially as it was? >> it's treated differently. part of the day-to-day life in new york. one of the most moving moments i had was giving a presentation about a memorial to a group of people about to move into tower
1. they could be in tower one behind me. so tell them about the birth of this neighborhood and how meaningful it was to me to have people around the memorial working like the people that perished here today. we're not forgetting what happened. we're living with hah had happened here and that's so important and seeing office workers and neighborhood residents, they're here for the once in a lifetime pilgrimage ask what gives it so much in my mind. >> we appreciate you taking the time to join us this morning the designer of that. tune in tonight on cnbc. at 10:00 you'll see jim cramer's documentary ground zero rising. freedom versus fear. >> as we head to break take a
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good. let's send it to john with a look at what's coming upped on squawk alley. >> we are watching sales force down this morning after earnings and revenue beat expectations. also tim cook with more strong words over what the european regulators are trying to do. we'll dig into that and uber ceo is speaking out. we'll talk to a reporter. all that and more coming up on squawk alley.
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