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for the prospectus containing this information. read it carefully. distributed by invesco distributors inc. out of time. thanks so much for watching. "mad money" with jim cramer starts right now. #. my mission the simple. i'm here to level playing field for all investors. there's always a bull market somewhere. and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. my job is not just to entertain but to educate and teach you. so call me or tweet me @jimcramer. on a day where the dow gained 84
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points. nasdaq advanced 4.6%. the big story is that the industrials are stalling out here. that's right. they're stalling out while the techs are head rot. what does that mean? you can easily interpret this action on an hour by hour basis, suggesting that we need to be worried about an economic slowdown. but i think that would be a mistake. to me the teches are roaring while the industrials languish, because investors keep gravitating toward the companies that have the most up site in the second half. now that it looks like the trump steam roller has run out of gas. remember, is stock market is a forecasting machine, it looks ahead about six to nine months. we thought that the president would repatriate foreign assets,
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tax cuts and lots of deregulation. wall street is enamored of him. which means the stock market likes him very, very much. now we're getting deregulation in spades. just last week, the president presented two men to the regulatory commission, trump's already put in regulators who favor consolidation in television. he's cut wilbur ross as the ak secretary. and he wants to protect the entire steel industry by declaring it a national defense asset. but when it comes to actual legislation, like corporate tax reform, it seems like that's now taking a back seat to the comey/russia investigation. tax reform is so stalled we don't even hear anymore hang
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wringing about that possible border took, because the house has deep sixed the entire package. even steve -- the president would rather spend his time relitigating the election. major legislation simply does not pass without the white house ramming it through. chinese's indicate va-- all i c
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say is thank heavens for communist china. our republican controlled congress hates spending money. in fact, the biggest projects here in america our state highway systems, most notably, california and texas, they've got money to burn. meanwhile the rally between crude and the world's largestics porter, crude's big move today may seem like a big surprise, but the tostocks anticipated la week. u.s. producers will just sell futures aggressively as oil goes higher here. and so many of them are really quite profitable at this level. but the stock market like nature abhors a vacuum. it's not like you take that money out of the asset plans, you just roll it from one sector to another. as you saw in today's just
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released sec files. let's start with the one that's getting rolled in the most of any company in the stock market. the red hot semiconductor stock. you might be wondering how is it possible that a stock without a takeover bid can go day after day. besides the fact that many people were shorted. a loftier valuation that many tech companies. you only need to listen to the conference call to recognize that jenson wine, the kroenlt isn't justs toing out artificial intelligence. he's pioneering ai. there's a moment on this call. once said that while software is going to eat the world and jenson thinks, and this is really important, people. artificial intelligence is going
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to eat software and is going to beat every aspect of software. every single software developer has to learn deep learning, every single software developer will have to learn artificial intelligence, every single company will use artificial intelligence. ai is the automation of automati automations. all that money that's going into tech stocks should be going into artificial intelligence. why do we do it? nvidia. there's a second ai play, that's alphabet, the parent of google.
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alp which goes to show this suspect some sort of pie in the sky move. i think alphabet is way ahead of everybody else in the category. when you get in that car, and you tell it to go to ruth's steakhouse, you can sit back and enjoy, it's a much bigger driver than you would be or any other professional would be. it could be a real foot race if intel can lower the cost of mobilized autonomous driving chips. attend of the day, there's always a story that makes tech look good. and then cramer fave proof point. i hope you watched them when they were on our show two weeks ago. stocks soaring here, not done.
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after last week's slaughter of intel at the hands of amazon. we have listen to believe that there's a few retailers among a ton of losers. look at dominos hitting another high today. they're congrestantly trying to come up with better ways to order online or even mobile. the driverless cars and the internet of things and gps will really help the bottom line here. here's the bottom line itself. as long as the president remains an impasse with congress, look for ancillary plays, like sbs. broadcom or analog devices, these chip machines that you need in order to put out the best semiconductors. and don't forget, the money managers buying these stocks all
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think they're cheap on next year's numbers. they want revenue growth, and these companies they have it in spades. george in california. george? >> caller: structure funding, what's the gamble jim to holding on to nucor? >> we told our travel trust holders, it's in a straight line, being hurt by the others, and if you want to look at chinese infrastructure. it's going -- betty in connecticut. >> caller: i want to know what you think of cigna stock in light of all the trouble they had with the merger. >> i think that they're a big winner in the republican plan, i think that's what people have to start recognizing, cigna,
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united, they're all winners. how about nick in california. nick? >> caller: boo-yah, mr. cramer. first i want to say that i really appreciate you and everything you have taught young investors like myself. >> thank you. >> caller: i have a question about amd, after the second quarter guidance was released, the stocks fell 20%. is now my time to buy? >> i think it's fine, i think that the company really botched its conference call. they really gave you no real sense of things. but snap's bouncing back, so amd can bounce back too. >> caller: jim, viacom is my stock. >> this thing has come down so hard, so fast, i got to believe there's some value there. the thing is at 33, i don't know, to me that's just too cheap. i would certainly not sell at
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this level. that would be wrong. i don't know what gets it higher, but the market has gone down. there are plenty of winners out there, we'll find them together. on "mad money" tonight, epr properties is one of the largest real estate investors in schools and megaplexes across the country. i'm find out where the company can continue to break down. then as we enter the next round of retail earnings, is all hope lost for the group? maybe not, i'll tell you which stocks in this base can potentially rally. and it's different from what you're hearing. good news for oil today. with saudi arabia back on line, c where could crude be headed? stick with cramer.
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these retail properties in this country, we simply have too many stores when consumers no longer want to shop in person. if companies want to make it through this difficult period, they need to give the millennial so hotters. a real estate investment trust that owns all kinds of educational to retail related -- they are merchants of experience with a charter school kicker that can't hurt given that our new education secretary likes charter schools so much. a fund named cnl web style
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properties. while the company reported a solid quarter two weeks ago, it wasn't able to hold the stock's decline. is this the buying opportunity we have been waiting for? let's check in with the ceo of epr properties. i'm thinking this is a great opportunity but i want you to walk people through a really important transaction with cno, which gave stock, which maybe people who got the stock sold it down. >> it was a $700 million transaction that we funded with over 90% equity. so we took the advantage to d e deleverage the company. so we thought there could be some volatility. we have not seen large numbers
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of volatility, we have seen some trading, but really strong support in and around the low 70 number. so we think it's a real good opportunity. >> what did you get? >> we got ski properties, we got water parks, not resort destination, but daily metropolitan, in and around major metropolitan areas that are serviced by top quality brands. water parks that use water as an experience and an ability to take advantage of admissions an concessions businesses that we know a lot about. >> this is where people take thousands of selfies and pictures. i want to talk about top golf. somehow this thing is booming, you told me it would boom, i didn't see it coming, i saw calloway a lot. what the heck is up with golf. >> it really is about the experience, you take an activity
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that's difficult for many people, the time commitment, the expense, the frustration. but you wrap it up in an entertainment setting with a credible food and beverage opportunity. to have fun with friends, family, colleagues and it's been incredibly successful. it's just a great concept that wire proud to be a part of. >> there's some short sightedness about the analysts. this megaplex business is fabulous. talk about the numbers that go up after you've been involved and refurbished. >> we have a good set now that we have been open for a year or more. and those stores, it's been a top line revenue increase over 40%. >> doesn't that mean if you're one of these gigantic real estate trusts that are hurting in shopping malls, they should
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be trying to figure a way to partner with you. >> we actually do with some of the mall guys, part of the answer is going to be, everybody's looking for experienti experiential, but entertainment doesn't solve bad demographics. if we have a bad property, entertainment's not going to fix that. entertainment makes good properties better. >> okay. what's going to happen to some of these guys? you know, it is true, everyone was looking pretty good, but as stores get shut, i mean, you can come in and you have no dog in the hunt. as stores get shut, it's not that much fun to go. >> and truly, what we have found out is that the malls used to be part of the experiential, you went there, and you met with friends. here not a foreteller that retail is going away. we are over retail as a country
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and we need to get down to a right size. >> for some reason wire under a megaplex. >> there were retailers that could pay big numbers. >> right and before this happened, before amazon, you were not the highest and best use. >> now it's creating opportunities, where there are good properties. >> i think epr, monthly dividend, good return, that's got to be right. >> it's going to be great. what the properties we own, people understand, they experience them every day and we're really glad to be part of this experiential economy. >> trump trade, the charter, you got the person, in this country, who may want charter schools more than anybody else as near as i can tell. >> it's no doubt that school choice and school options being led by someone who has a big voice in that community is very positive. at least for school choice and we're proud that she's out there carrying that voice. >> and what can she do?
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i mean what happens, what can the federal government do? >> the federal government really doesn't drive schools, but it does set the narrative. when people are beginning to talk about these issues, when people are beginning to understand that we have someone who's supportive of choice, then again, it lets it at a local and state level, where most of these decisions are actually made. >> i think this is the right time to own this stock, i don't see yields going back up to 4 bucks. so many of you say how do i get paid monthly? how about 5.8% monthly. everything is hitting on all cylinders. "mad money" is back after the break. coming up, cramer sets his eyes on energy. can a bounce in oil earn you a barrel of profits? the ceo of magellan midstream partners gives his take on the sector.
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as we head into the next round of retailer earnings this week, i think we need to wonder if things are really as grim as the action in the stocks would have you believe. and you know i've been more negative than anybody. take a second look at the crucial reports from macy's, kohl's, nordstroms, penny's, you find things you can like about these. i'm certainly not saying that they can't go lower, but it's possible some of them have indeed come down too far too fast. let's start with macy's. the numbers were clearly disappointing. the company's been relentlessly cutting his forecast. same store sales horrendous, down 4.6%.
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apparel is pretty disastrous and the stock fell hard down to six years lows, first macy's does sport a 6.5% yield, pretty stable. second the stock may have been near to these levels all right, it wouldn't be such a precipitous decline if there wasn't such 50ididle nonsensibl takeover talk. seems to have an awareness of what they can do to race their numbers. they got to make the stores look better, get rid of those plastic hangers, shoes have become a winner. fine jewelry, makeup's doing well. it's not a total debacle. although i could argue that macy's is the best of the four. i actually like kohl's. an aggressive buy back, and for the last five years, they have
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shrunk the share cap from 200 million to 170 million. also stores in street malls, which makes it easier for the company to leverage order pick up at the store better than any of the other mall based. kohl's saw what can only be described as a dramatic pick up in february. the real story is how under alarmed the launch went. if kohl's brings in other name brands, it sure seems to know how to sell them. i also like it's personalized price -- there's a lot kohl's can do with machine learning, in short, it is the best of the four. as for nordstrom, i was confo d confounded by this one. they have a 4.6% decline in same
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store sales. apart because nordstrom itself becomes confused. the discount business seems to have stalled. i nordstroms seems to have lost it's way. unfortunately at a bit of 3.4% earnings. but one that's most intriguing, just in terms of being down and dirty is jcpenney, because it certainly has some strong things going for it. on the same day that amazon was vocal about taking them on and the company's support business remains hot. it's in many more stores that people realize, and wherever it goes, it works. including long lines out the door of the mall. a block long in some of the rural openings, i'm not kidding,
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they have been opening in these places. the salon business is smoking too. and they still have a lot more stores that they can put supporters in. however ceo marvin ellison started his conference call by saying his stores had disappointing top line reports. the downgrades here seem endless, this stock's truly been kicked to the curb. home depot is facing its first real amazon challenge, with many of its suppliers reporting good numbers. however, it's worth wonderering if some of these retailers aren't oversold. i wouldn't be surprised if kohl's can rally after a potential win from either home depot or target. don't get me wrong, bricks and mortar as a category is in trouble.
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but when the smoke clears here, i think you will get a snap back and the best snapper will most likely be the stock of kss, the stock of kohl's. parker in washington, parker? >> caller: hey, jim, a big boo-yah from washington. i'm a 20-year-old new investor and i would like to say thank you for all the insights i gained from reading your book "mad money." >> thank you. >> first any advice you can give me and other young investors on how to face the bull market we are in currently? >> a particular stock. >> caller: i was wondering what your take was on shopify. >> they make the quarter, they make the quarter, and they make the quarter. there's got to be some flyers on this one. is it amazon? nothing is amazon. nothing is amazon.
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raymond in california. >> caller: boo-yah, from the san fernando valley, california. my question to you is on fit bit, a little over three months ago, there was an article where united health group was offering -- and just a couple of weeks ago, they came out with a commercial for the wearables device. given this level of exposure, do you see other investors catching on to this trend. >> fit feels like jcpenney, it just feels like they're 80 cents down and two bucks up. i don't know what gets it there. but i think you're right in terms of the risk-reward. fit seems right when it comes to risk-reward. as we head into retail earnings
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which starts tomorrow. some of these stocks are oversold. especially kohl's. it could rally if we get positive news, either home depot or target. probably the former over the latter. i talk to with the ceo of magellan mid street. but it's in the red so far this year, it seems wrong to me. but today's jump in oil companies, could the company see its earnings rise? and do you know that 60 million americans spend money on their dogs every year. can it keep climbing or are you barking up the wrong tree. and then we'll have a magical edition of "the lightning round." so stick with cramer. what's better than "mad money"? how about more "mad money"? follow "mad money" on facebook, twitter and instagram to go one-on-one with cramer.
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today we're unleashing american energy and clearing the way for thousands and thousands of high paying american jobs. >> the words focus on american energy, translate into profits for an industry that can suffer from some crude price swings. >> this is a good day for the price of oil, four in a row. but i believe crude willikely stay stuck, bouncing between the mid 40s and the mid 50s for the foreseeable future. because there's so much good supply in this country keeping a lid on prices. this is one of the most pro
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petroleum presidents in history. we got volume aplenty. however it's not easy owning a pipeline limited partnership. take magellan midstream partners, a pipeline operator. i like magellan so much i own it in my travelers trust. unfortunately we have seen the stock down 9% from its 52-week highs. that payout becomes a lot less attractive when investors believe interest rates will keep rising, the whole pipeline complex also tends to sell off along with oil, even though magellan is a toll road operative for. magellan delivering a nice top and bottom line. the stock barely budged on the
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news. with crude climbing again, could the pipeline -- magellan midstream partners, mr. meres, welcome back to "mad money." have a seat. >> glad to be here. >> we're trying to explain to people the relations between an oil pipeline and an oil storage company and the price of oil. and all i can tell is that the more oil we take out of the ground, the better it's going to be for you. >> that's true, we're well positioned for the permian basin. we have got two pipelines out of the basin, we're looking at building another one, we have contracts on the pipelines we have in place. it doesn't vary with the fluctuation of the price of oil and we have plenty of capacity on existing pipes and we have potential to add pipes to the permian. >> let's talk about that, because i know you've been talking about the potential for
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a half a billion dollars worth of projects. >> it's really in the category of consistent. most of our projects are long lead line projects, many of them need customer commitments which take time to secure. but once we have them, they're very solid projects, we have a number of crude oil pipe lines and we have a number of refined products opportunities also. >> when we hear that the u.s. government allowed us to export u.s. crude, that's also a win for you? >> absolutely. as light oil production grows in this country, it's going to surpass the capacity to consume. that oil has to go to the export market. so it's given us opportunity to build infrastructure, we're building that in houston, we're buiwe're -- >> how much of it is not a toll
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road? how much of it does have commodity exposure. >> about 19% of our company is fee based. and about 15% is on -- that's not a money losing proposition, really, in any circumstance. there's always money to be made there, it just fluctuates from year to year. >> you have a no-incentive distribution rights strategy. and this is the one that is best for shareholder, if you could just in english explain what that means and why it's so much better if you're a shareholder of magellan? >> when many oil companies were formed, the general partner which has a small equity stake in the partnership, gets up to half of the cash flow over time. and obviously that's a drag of cash flow, you're investing capital, half of that is going
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to somebody else, only half of it is going to the public market. we don't have that draft, 100% goes to the shareholders. >> you've been doing a lot, you've got saddle horn from the rocky mountains, you've got a lot of different thing going on right now, which of these are the big -- can be a kind of a fulcrum to take things higher? >> we have three focus areas for growth, one of those is additional crude oil pipelines, we're looking at expanding out of the permian down to corpus christi. the other one is crude exports. we're building another one in corpus christi. as we have so much abundance of cheap crude in this country, refiners are going to continue to run, and they're going to export that. >> who takes it? who needs our stuff? >> the world market. and so you've got needs in asia,
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you've got needs in latin america, you've got sometimes the needs in europe. >> your consistency is remarkable and i think that right now 4.7% yield is pretty darn good, i'm going to continue to add the position from my travel trust any time i can. >> this is the most consistent one. no distribution rights means that you're in the driver's seat. "mad money" is back after the break. [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. it can provide what we call an unlock: a realization that often reveals a better path forward.
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it is time for "the lightning round." [ buzzer ] and then "lightning round" is over. let's start with joe in new jersey. joe? >> caller: hey, jim, i'm a first time caller and i would like to
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ask you about abbvie. >> i think this is one of the finest drug companies around, bye, bye, bier. let's go to danny in georgia. >> caller: what about qualcoca went higher today, i think it can go even higher from here. >> let's go to allan in washington. >> caller: i'm in the land of russell wilson. >> the commercials look greet about him. how can i help? >> caller: i'm an ex-philadelphiian now living outside of seattle. my question is, i owned
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enbridge. >> i would go to with magellan. let's go to peter. >> caller: my question is about tvg ooir cvbi. >> the sector is turning around and i think you got a good play on it. >> caller: i'm holding north american tanker. >> i have not liked this company for a very long time. they keep buying ships and that's just a mistake. i do not want to own nordic american tanker. >> caller: boo-yah, jim.
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question, what is your stance on epd. >> it's a very good partnership, it yields 6%, i think it's in very good shape, it's got a good balance sheet. let's go to pat in maryland. >> caller: i bought nbr on friday. # with a 6% gain. what should i do now? >> caller: just walk aw. >> just walk away, i am not in favor of buying that. >> caller: i'm a long time owner of ford, i can't figure out why it's number one in production and sales in the country. >> because it's going to have a down year, the company has even said that, they have not encouraged you to wire as far as i'm concerned.
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you know i'm a big believer in identifying powerful long-term themes and sticking with them for years, as long as they keep paying off. right now one of the hottest things out there are
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immunization for pets. zoletta as the global animal health company that's focused on livestock and pets. they have had a 13% gain versus where it was trading just a month ago. while it took about a year for the company to find its footing, as i told you it would. ever since this company has been on fire. 5 cents earnings beat, up over 6% year over year. but even up here with the stock only a few nickels away from it's all-time high, i think it could have room to run. let's talk to the ceo of. there's a deal we made that's in
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the news, the cattle with the chinese. some of the work you've done to make our cattle the safest in the world. >> for our customers, farmers in the u.s. now they will have access to the chinese market. the chinese have significant potential. there's a lot of people there. there's more growth in consumption of beef, will be very important for the cattle business in the u.s. >> you have done a lot of international work with vaccines in china since i have seen you last. it sounds like that market has become a great growth market. >> china is growing very fast. we have a lot of vaccines for companion animals and livestock and we do believe that china will be an important market, it's already an important market for us. >> you revealed that some of your medicines for dogs would take off.
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i was shocked to see the market share, your atopic dermatitis drug already gotten. how did that happen? >> that drug is responding very well to the needs of pet owners, it's also not only leading in s but innovation. it's two options for treating allergies in dogs. we're very pleased with all the products we are making. >> it's very clear that this is a superior drug to the steroids that we give our dogs, right? that's just without a doubt, superior. >> it's better efficacy, it's faster, because in very few hours you have relief of all these itching conditions and they're very important.
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you don't see the side effects that you see with steroids. >> this acquisition, this intrigued me, because we care tremendously about our dog, we don't know if our dogs are in pain, we can look to see if they are. this is a very serious chronic pain possibility for you guys. how do we know that dogs have it. >> dogs, when they are quiet, when they are not moving, it's a good sign that there is pain on the animal. so the best thing is take the dogs to the veterinarian and the veterinarian, they have the tools to identify what will be the best course of treatment for the pet. >> this could be a gigantic drug, we care so much about our dogs, we can't talk to them, but we would do anything to relieve them of pain. >> using pain, because also, we
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expect that the side effects reason fewer than -- instead of the other medications that are already in the market. the other opportunity will be not only dogs, but also cats. because cats today, there is not available for cats, which is working well. this will be an injectable formulation, and it will do very well with injects cats with painful conditions. >> you are a very high taxpayer, if there were ever a change in the income tax, it would be a boon for the company. you have been so pro shareholder. >> we define the capital location for us, first is invest in the business, so we have scene a significant return in investing in research, investing in commercial. in manufacturing, these are the focus that we have today.
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genetics or biodevices. we bought skacandinavian microbiologist office. >> you have to be satisfied that if president trump gets this through, it would be very good for the company. >> it will significantly increase our profitability. we are improving that profitability. because 400 basis points in 2016, good improvement, now we have 32% margin, which is very
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remarkable. we have plans to keep growing the margin, but the help of the tax reform, we also have a positive effect on our operation. >> you have done exactly what you said you would and thank you for everything you've done for shareholders. they're just doing fabulously. stick with cramer. the new guy? what new guy? i hired some help. he really knows his wine. this is the new guy? hello, my name is watson. you know wine, huh? i know that you should check vineyard block 12. block 12? my analysis of satellite imagery shows it would benefit from decreased irrigation. i was wondering about that. easy boy. nice doggy. what do you think? not bad. (shouting) more power tools. more power suits. (shouting) more power... chords. with customized loyalty programs and data-driven insights,
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