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said playing video games won't get you anywhere well, they might have been wrong. ask the mayo clinic and maybe nasa too >> the man who went to financial prison and it's medicare enrollment season but the choices are not as easy as a, b, c a guide to making the right decisions. >> and he wrote an article about the worst places to live in america. now he lives in one of them. how did this happen you may ask? so did we.
>> this is "on the money." >> we begin with video games in spite of what your parents told you they can actually can improve hand/eye coordination and can be powerful learning and teaching tools they can even help train future surgeons game changers is this week's cover story. >> reporter: his family was never terribly impressed with his dream job. >> i started out at lucas arts making star wars games, spent many years at microsoft and this entire time it sort of made me the disgrace of the family because i'm the first one that never went to medical school >> but the medical force proved strong when his dad asked him to make an anesthesiology training app it turns out 100,000 doctors downloaded it. that led sam to launch level x, video games to train doctors on procedures ranging from
intubating patients. >> how to maneuver in a surgical scenario >> for doctors, the real game changer is being able to practice and even earn education credits anywhere on their phones >> the ability to use new devices in a virtual environment in a gaming opportunity and be allowed of pushing the boundaries is not only really exciting but it's the future of interventional cardiology. >> and maybe the future of health care in far away environment like the moon and mars nasa has now tapped the video game startup to help train astronauts to handle medical issues when they're in space >> my job is to invest in ground breaking technologies and capabilities that in ten years time when we are ready to go to mars these things will be so sophisticated. >> doctors at the institute for space health, a nasa partner organization, say they chose
level x because of its strong vir yul reality graphics and its gaming engagement. >> rather than making this a really boring type of practice for these nonexpert yausers it's going to be fun. >> they'll develop instructional games that can reproduce the effects of zero gravity, radiation and different gases that impact the body in space. >> i never would have thought that a few decades later we'd be using video game technology to help astronauts train for real space missions this is one of the most exciting projects i've ever worked on in my life. >> made extra sweet now that he's no longer the black sheep in the family. >> so our video games are like realistic to teach medical procedures dr. paul friedmann is the chair of the cardiovascular medicine at the mayo clinic what did you see here?
>> any human ak tuffty riding a bicycle, playing piano, takes practice and the more you can practice without putting people at risk the better. so they're on the right track. >> what have you seen? do you use virtual reality >> we do we've established a virtual reality last right next to our cath lab you're going to do a procedure and let's say somebody who has slightly atypical anatomy, imagine being able to walk into that heart, see that person's specific anatomy you can do that. you put a ct disk in the computer, put on the glasses and you're literally walking into an image of that individual's heart. so you can have a sense of where their unique valves or appendages or other structures are situated >> how long has that been around >> it's all fairly emerging technology there are things you can do. say a doctor at a far away hospital is doing a procedure and it's not one they've done
before they get into a situation where they need help imagine we can put on glasses, b they wear glasses and now we're in the room. that's still more in the research and development phase but we've done early animal studies at a distance and the hope is we can share expertise through the use of these tools >> let's talk about some of the stuff that you've been working on too artificial intelligence. you used a study that said you could look at someone's heart and get an idea of the overall health >> we use the ecg. our bodies are giving off electrical signals all the time. every heart beat is drifzen by electrical signals we trained a computer to read the ecg and we did that by giving it hundreds of thousands of examples and we asked the computer x here's an ecg, here's the person's age and after seeing 500,000 we said here's an unknown ecg. how old is the person? and we found something really
fascinating. for some people it was spot on for some the ecg age was older than the actual lidge and for some it was younger. and we actually looked at some charts to say why is that? it turns out the people with the ecg age is older have diseases they've had heart attacks, high blood pressure the ones with the ecg age tends to be younger are people who are exercising, have good health so we thought maybe this is telling us fizz oage. >> and when you think about it you're going to have a surgery, are you too frail, do you need nor medical management looking at your ecg age could be a marker we have to test that part now. another area where it could be useful is a lot of medicines are being developed to try to prevent aging. how do you know if they work
>> right >> you have to figure out a way to say well, i'm getting younger. how do you know? if you a marker telling you how old you are, that could be used to prevent new approaches against aging. >> have you tested yourself? >> i have. >> a little bit older than i should be. >> have you changed any of your behaviors since? are you running more often, are you eating better. >> i actually am i try to run regularly all of us have busy schedules but i make a point of getting up early. i have an exercise bicycle that i use more regularly and we did see some people who are substantially older than their stated age because of an illness when it's treated they get younger. >> thank you for your time it's great to see you. up next we're on the money some lessons about money and investing behind bars and the man doing the teaching has a story of his own and later it's one of the biggest expenses in retirement health care. how much should you save and how much you'll need
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♪ welcome back, everybody. brad was a ceo of a public company. in 2008 a jury found him guilty of fraud but this isn't about what happened on the outside. it's about what he did on the inside he taught inmates about investing and more and he put it altogether in a new book that's called the roadside scholar. amazing money lessons from behind the fence and thanks for being here >> my measure. >> great to see you. >> thank you
good to be seen. >> let's talk a little bit about this your book really kind of grabbed me because you wrote very straightforward account of what happened when you went to prison, what you started thinking about how did you then get to the idea that okay, i'm going to start teaching investing and finance to inmates what happened? >> well, when i first got there i was petrified. the only exposure i'd had to prison was on television and movies and i was introduced to a guy who said, you know, you should really teach. and i was shocked because i didn't assume they'd let somebody with a securities fraud conviction teach but it turns out that everyone there has a conviction for something and they needed teachers and i had a pretty good background, you know, with an economics degree and some time on wall street and there's a lot of guys interested in money and financial topics and soy started teaching primarily for me to -- to be productive, but then i started to enjoy it and i learned that, you know, a lot of the guys were
really interested in the topics and were sponges for information if you could communicate in a way that kind of grabbed their attention because they didn't have the greatest attention spans. >> a lot of it is basic stuff if you're steeped in this but i think it sheds a light on how we really don't teach things like this to kids we really don't teach this to so many people. and it's the basics that can really help you build a product i life what kind of things were you teaching what kind of thing it is were you telling them >> well, the most important thing i tell them is number one it's accessible. and in today's world, the financial markets in this country are perhaps the most democratic institutions we have. anyone can get involved. but getting people to get started is the hard part because it's intimidating. so the message was try to figure out how to communicate in a way that gave them the confidence to get started. >> was there a particular story or two that stuck out with you other guys who you thought okay, i'm really making a difference in his life?
>> one guy in particular just before i left he said my girlfriend and i, we have two kids, eight and ten and i really heard what you said in the class about getting started young. we're going to put $1,000 in an account for each of them and we're going to add $50 a month and what should we do with it? so we sat down and we talked about it and i -- i love that because like me, he was someone that was trying to stay connected to his kids, do the right thing, but stay connected while he was separated from them and so that -- those kinds of situations and it happened more than once, were the best >> you have a wife and three kids and part of this project was a way for you to stay connected with them. describe that. >> well, it's very difficult to write a book while you're in prison the -- there's no access to computers, and so you can either write it long hand which i started doing and realized i can't do that or you had to send it through this little specialized e-mail system that the federal system has, but you
can always send it in chunks of like 4 or 500 words at a time so i would send out those chunks to my two sons and then my wife would send back the hard copy in to me and i'd mark it up and i'd send it back to them so it was a laborious process, but it was something else that we could do together so it started with the financial education for my kids and then it became a family project so when i got out the first thing i wanted to do was publish this no matter if, you know, my sister was the only one who read it it had to get done because it was a family project >> brad, i just want to say, i appreciate the lessons that you put into this and why you put this together and thank you for your time. >> thank you it's been an honor to be here. >> up next, we're on the money healthy savings. how much will health care cost you in retirement. we will explain your options and tell you how you can trim costs too. and later, why this county was named the worst place to live in
285,000 sounds like a really big number but if you're sick it doesn't sound big. >> this is a cost for couple that's on average that's pretty healthy. women 150,000. men 135,000. when you're looking at these numbers you have to keep in mind what your health status is that's key when you're figuring out how much your health care costs are going to be in retirement are you healthy, do you have a chronic illness? will you retire before age 65 before medicare kicks in then you'll have to supply your own health insurance for that time period and what is your income going to consist of in retirement and how much of that is going to be taxed higher than you would have anticipated that could have an impact as well again, that tax status could have an impact on the medicare premiums that you pay. >> what are the different medicare options >> it's like alphabet soup out there. it's confusing to several people but there's several parts. four to pay attention to part a usually consists of the hospital costs that's what's covered by
traditional medicare part b is outpatient visits and then if you want an hmo, ppo type plan that's known as part c and that covers a little bit more, perhaps dental, vision, hearing that may be covered there as well and then prescription drugs, that's a separate plan, part d and so what you want to do when you enroll and enrollment starts october 15th for the annual enrollment period, you want to make sure you have parts a, b and d and if you need extra and you want to go traditional medicare then you get a medi gap policy if you want to go hmo route that's medicare advantage. >> so you think about all that and you start thinking about the costs that are probably adding up on a monthly basis for that is there any way to trim some of the costs? >> how you use your health care right now. if you have a chronic illness, you know there's certain medications you're going to have to get you'll have to factor that in in terms of prescription drug costs, so you want to make sure you look at that.
look at your health care use now and to get an idea of what it's going to be. if you go outside of traditional medicare outside of part a and part b and you do the medicare advantage plan you want to go in network to make sure you're paying less than you would if you went out of network. we have a lot of doctors and hospitals to choose from know what is covered and what is not covered. long-term care, never covered by medicare so you need to know that and with some plans you may not get the dental or the vision care so you want to make sure you know what is covered and as you're looking at your tax liability hsa accounts, roth ira accounts, cash value in life insurance, they are not impacted as much. some of those other accounts may be so you want to talk to a financial advisor, a tax preparer to find out what your tax stats us is as you go into this medicare enrollment period as well. >> thank you up next, a look at the news for the week ahead why this "washington post" reporter left city life behind to move what's been called the
♪ here are stories coming up that may impact your money on monday we'll see how much credit card debt americans were holding for the month of august. then on tuesday t producer price index for last month will be out. on wednesday, we get the minutes from the federal reserves open market committee in september and by the way, it's also national stop bullying day,
bringing awareness to an issue that many people face every day. on thursday, we'll get consumer price index report for september and then on friday we've got import and export prices for the last month four years ago "washington post" reporter chris ingram published an article that would change his life he wrote the absolute worst place to live in america is drum roll please, red lake county, minnesota. minnesotaians were not pleased and invited them to see their county with his own eyes so what happened next? chris explains in his books. it's called if you lived here you'd be home by now it's great to see you. thank you for joining us >> thanks so much for having me. >> so let's talk about that article that upset all those people in the first place. why did you write that red lake minnesota was the worst place to live >> yes, so this was based on a really interesting data set from the usda called the natural amenities index and what it did was it ranked all 3,000 plus
counties in the united states on their natural beauty, things like climate, topography, bodies of water the usda scientists were trying to understand migration patterns they thought people were moving away from uglier places and moving toward hospitalable ones. so i call out the number one place on the list and then also dead last on the list which happened to be red lake county, minnesota. a little place in the middle of nowhere. i had never heard of in my life. never set foot in minnesota in my life and so i tossed in a line and published a story and i thought it would be it and on to the next thing >> so you're a data geek and you're a mart alec you right this and the feedback was fast and furious >> the story published on a 9:27 on a monday and by 9:32 it was coming in via e-mail and social media and coming in from from all over the state of minnesota.
>> they were mad but they were polite too right? >> they were extremely right and that's kind of the minnesota way. they take pride in this idea of minnesota nice a lot of people were pitching in on it. the local newspapers picked up on it and the state senators, i had amy klobuchar sending me pictures all day, looking at this place and look at this place. so it turned into this whole thing. >> how did you move there? how did that come about? >> yeah, so i ended up visiting. eventually one of the residents in county, he said look, you should come out here and see what this place looks like because there's a lot more to us than a single cell on a data sheet. so i went out and visited and to my surprise i just loved the place. there are challenging of course in the small towns in this area but people are coming together and they are rising above their challenges and they're still working together to make their towns better places to live. after the visit, we were at a very weird time in our lives
we had just had twins. we were living in the baltimore washington metro area. i was commuting 90 minutes a day to work. i was never seeing the kids. we were never seeing each other. my wife was working a high powered government job we were living in a row house because that's all we could afford so like many families that i've talked to these kind of financial pressures of living in the city areas to be close to our jobs, they were just pulling us apart and eventually my mom was like, well, you're having all these problems in maryland why don't you move to that nice little town in minnesota that you like so much and see what happens so that's what we did. >> i get all the pros with red lake falls but at the risk of getting you in trouble with your new neighbors what's one of the cons >> one of the cool things coming out here is being able to look at the flip side of these data points and the cold and the winter and learning about the things that we can do out here that we couldn't do in other places if you love to cross country ski
and you live in maryland you can do that one or two days out of the winter out here you can -- >> you can do it 365 days? >> you can do it from november to april the snow starts falling and it it never goes away >> i love the story. love the book. thanks for joining us. great to see you >> thank you so much >> that is our show for today. i'm becky quick. thank you so much for joining us next week if you are planning a vacation, can you still get travel help or at the point is it all do it yourself in this market we'll talk all about that. we're on the money have a great one and we will see you next weekend cake in the conference room! showing 'em you're ready... to be your own boss. that's the beauty of your smile. crest's three dimensional whitening... ...removes stains,... ...whitens in-between teeth... ...and protects from future stains. crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life.
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