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cnn.com. the news room continues right now with t. j. holmes. >> we're just getting started, fredricka. i will see you tomorrow, right? >> sounds great. >> thank you so much. and hello, i am t. j. holmes. and go on with us with the next couple hours. whitey went from santa monica and back to boston. he's en route to boston. he will inbound court later this afternoon, and he will be there to face charges for money launderi laundering. he was in court yesterday along
with his long-time girlfriend. she is facing criminal charges. the two are now on their way back and expecteded to stand trial in boston. this, the video, this may be is what they could credit for their catch chur -- leading to their capture. this is a subservice announcement the fbi started to air this week. the thought was that the best way to get to bulger was through his girlfriend. and it turns out, would you believe, her frequent trips to the beauty salon and frequent teeth cleaning may have lead them to him.
debra in boston for us. what do we know when he might arrive and when we might see bulger in court today. >> this is the first time bulger might have been here since christmas of 1994. the fbi saying they did think outside the box on this one by going after the girlfriend thinking she would be more identifiable, certainly during daytime tv than bowl gulger. assuming the plane can land, because it's a very foggy day here in boston, he should be on the ground within the next couple of hours and then brought to this court house where he will hear the charges against him. we're told by the attorney that he has the opportunity to plead to those charges if in fact he has had time to talk to his lawyer and to make sure that he understands everything against
him. i raised the question, is there a possibility that there could be more charges pending, as a superseding indictment, and perhaps talking about more murders and nobody willing to speculate on that. the u.s. marshalls service is transporting him. when we spoke with the agency here in boston, it ends a chapter for everybody here. his reign was so brutal and people feared him. he had a psychologically terrorizing grip in south boston, and murdering people. even his girlfriends. he is accused of killing some of them. he is coming to boston again for the first time anybody knows of officially and coming under u.s. marshall escort. >> thank you. we are standing by for that.
that should be sometime later this afternoon. we have seen so much after the past few weeks and months about the historic months on the mississippi and missouri rivers. we need to turn our attention now to another river in north dakota. this one threatening to wipe out the city. it's going right through minot, north dakota. the river is flooding much faster than expected there. the water is rising to levels they have never seen before. 12,000 people have already left their homes. many homes already flooded. workers and volunteers racing against the clock trying to save what they can of minot. jim is there for us. hello. want to make sure we're not overstating it here, but i have seen a number of places where the people are saying this could essentially wipe out this town. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, t. j. this river runs right through the middle of downtown. so many businesses and homes. 12,000 people have already had
to evacuate. you mentioned in the beginning how fast the water is coming up. when we started to report from here three days ago they were calling for the river to crest on tuesday. now, today the latest estimates is late tomorrow. they run out of time to try to protect the whole town. you can see how much the water is coming at. this is an intersection right here in the heart of minot. you can see these traffic signals here all the way up. what those bars over there -- that's a railroad crossing and the road goes underneath it. it's just been coming up faster and faster. we started reporting here earlier today t. j., and the water was about 20 feet back down there. we're running out of our live shot area and we'll have to go up to higher ground as well. not overstating the impact of this. the people that left, they know when they come back they may not have any kind of home with them, they took everything with them,
t. j. >> a little over a quarter of the population of the town has left. are we expecting more to head out? >> it's a little depressing, i think. even if the river comes up a foot or two, they cannot expand the evacuation area, because everybody in the valley and downtown area has been evacuated. the local's officials sounded defeated. the mayor sounded like there was nothing else they could do and they cannot expand because they have everything out in the low-lying valley here. seems inevitable that the valley in downtown minot will flood and cause major damage. >> jim, we appreciate you as always. thank you so much. want to turn to the house of representatives owe specially opposed to the u.s. military operation in libya. the house turned down a resolution today that would express support for the american involvement. this is a live picture you are seeing. you are seeing ron paul speaking
on the floor right now. a live picture, and he is a republican presidential candidate as well. they're expected to vote on another measure that would severely respect for the military funding in libya. we will have live coverage of that for you when it happens. president obama is hoping to come to an agreement with senate leaders about cutting the deficit. he will hold separate meetings monday with harry reid and mitch mcconnell in hopes that ending the stalemate on the debt ceiling. the white house will discuss a ways to find a bipartisan solution. advisory president biden expected to be at both meetings. and president obama at a fund-raising event in new york last night he said out right that gay and lesbian couples should be awarded equal rights but did not go as far as using the word marriage. new york state senate is taking
up right now a bill to legalize same-sex marriage. we could see a vote on that today. one house, one chamber, i should say, of the assembly there has okayed it, and so if the senate okays it, new york could become the sixth state in the union to okay same-sex marriage. we are keeping a close eye today on the casey anthony murder trial. her mother and brother take the stand, and what they say about caylee anthony. it brought some folks to hear in the courtroom. stay with us. that's next. [ male announcer ] germs in your mouth build up
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help us put into perspective what they were going after, the defense today at least, when they talked about the pool and climbing in and out of it and little caylee's clothes and the car, and what were they trying to get at today? >> i know you remember baez's opening where he put forth the theory of defense that it was an accidental drowning and caylee opened the sliding door and walked up the ladder and drowned in the pool and that's where george found her. here they are trying to establish and give a visual to the jury of her walk-up the steps. although cindy was behind her they got to see her on the steps. that's why the pictures for some jurors, they are going to embrace the pictures. stains in the car? lee testified there were stains in the car. the prosecution seems to intemate this was stains from a body being in the car. the prosecution is losing credibility. when cindy testified yesterday, consistent with her deposition testimony of two years ago, two years ago, t. j., the
prosecution knew this, that she was the one that did the chloroform searches. they almost fell out of their chairs. baez, they are trying to make headway with the defense. very difficult case to defend. >> i want our viewers now to listen to part of the testimony from lee. again, some of this was really some of the emotional stuff we have seen since the trial started. this is lee, the brother, talking about how he felt about casey's pregnancy in the first place. let's listen to this and i will ask you about it on the other side. >> i was very angry at my mom, and i was also angry at my sister. i mean, i was just angry at everybody in general that they didn't -- they didn't want to include me. and, uh, and they didn't find it important enough to tell me, especially after i had already asked.
so i was -- i was very hurt. >> okay. richard, what do you make of that? it sounds like -- we heard other testimony about possible infidelity in the family and relationships and then you have the brother saying he was left out. it's almost painting a picture of a dysfunctional -- a lot of families are dysfunctional, but sounds like they are trying to paint some kind of picture here. >> t. j., that was about the most bizarre testimony i have ever seen. everybody was riveted to their chairs waiting for him to say because he was the father, everybody waiting to see if that would come out of his mouth. so unrealistic he would be that emotional years after this took place. baez went to the opening saying he was molested by the brother and father, and one or two jurors could sit there and watch him hesitate when baez asked him
any other reasons you were upset, and he paused and then said no. some jurors are going to lock into that, t. j. they are fighting hard to get a hung jury on the first-degree murder. that's the most important thing they can do. get a hung on the first degree. and then go to the other charges. that would save her life. >> how do you think that they are doing so far in trying? it only takes one juror they need to get through to. how are they doing? >> t. j., the smell, the smell just keeps ringing, that testimony of the smell and the stench coming from the car, and her conduct for those 30 days after the child was either dead or missing, you know, you can't explain that away. they cannot put a shrink on the stand and give her a free pass for that conduct. everybody has problems in their life. everybody has issues. but that doesn't give you the right to be a serial compulsive liar and perhaps kill your child. her conduct was so bad and
that's going to infuriate jurors. five people testified to that smell of a dead body coming from that car. very difficult, t. j. the best they can do is a hung jury on the first-degree murder. but she will get convicted on the other two charges. >> all right. richard, always good to see you. you can see richard every weekend, every saturday with our fredricka whitfield here in the "cnn newsroom." we'll see you soon. there is a special on the trial, tomorrow night, 10:00 eastern, but before that we will have nancy grace who has been following this case from the very beginning here with us to give us her thoughts. meanwhile, we're standing by still. there is a house vote on libya funding, and we're waiting for that and we'll bring you the details of the boat as that continues. and the president made a
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19 minutes past the hour now. time to take a look at some of the stories making headlines. president obama's poll numbers have dipped in recent weeks. he's in pittsburgh to promote u.s. manufacturing. there is a new partnership teaming industries and universities and the government will create new jobs and put america on the cutting edge of
technology. the best of america's production days may lie ahead. we're talking about the support that may have kept bin laden hidden in plain sight. u.s. intelligence officials are prying secrets from the cell phone of his trusted courier. according to the new york times he spoke to a militant group long tied to pakistan's official agency. and then a hacker in arizona releasing files about police officers, including names and phone numbers and addresses. they say they are doing this in retaliation for the state's immigration law. the state highway patrol association says this puts officers at risk. you may have heard the news, the obama administration says it will release 30 million barrels from the reserve, and it's 5% from the country's emergency
supplies. it may lower gas prices, at least some are hoping. but was the white house justified in tapping the emergency supply? christine romans breaks this town. >> t. j., washington's business lobby says that reserve is to address true emergencies and not convenient white house emergencies. let's look at oil prices, shall we? after the fighting in libya, oil prices rose to $109 a barrel. since then, prices have been slipping back and falling below $100 a barrel. why? because the economy is weak. it means you useless oil. with prices moving lower, now the president is tapping into the strategic petroleum reserve.
it's about 30 million barrels, about 5% of the country's emergency supplies. 30 countries are dipping into their emergency stock piles in conjunction with the u.s., and saudi arabia says they will pump more crude oil as well. a reminder of where it's going. the u.s. is the single biggest consumer of oil. it accounts for a quarter of all demand. china consumes less, 10%, but is growing fast and furious. only the president can tap america's emergency supplies. the last time was in 2005 by president bush and that was after curtain katrina. 30 million barrels were tapped back then, too. t. j.? >> thanks to christine romans. you can catch up on all your financial news with christine romans on "your bottom line," right here on cnn on saturday morning. and then we're standing by a vote for the funding being cut
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>> you see there, maybe you can make that out, he got a standing ovation for those comments. but, he did stop short in his comments throughout the evening, stopped short of using the word marriage. he did not go as far as saying he supported gay marriage. that's something that certainly a few people in the crowd noticed and let him know about during his speech. listen. >> that's why we're going to keep fighting until the law no longer -- i heard you guys. believe it or not, i anticipated that somebody might say that. [ applause ] where was i? >> now, some light heckling from a few people in the crowd. the president was able to get a laugh out of the crowd at some point. the president was speaking at a lesbian and gay and transgender
council. is this clear to you? >> reporter: they want to hear the president say the word of marriage, and here we are in a state where we have a a governor champion marriage equality, and we would love to hear the president say it as well. >> are you resigned to the idea, i guess, in your heart of hearts that you know this president cannot, some would say, and others will tell you, will not come out with gay marriage before election day 2012? >> reporter: what the president
has said is that he is evolving. we would like him to evolve very fast and say he supports marriage equality now. you have to look at the totality of the president's record and no president has done more for lgbt americans than this president, from hate crimes bill to revealing don't ask don't tell so gay members could serve proudly in the armed forces, and in order to repeal that he had to bring together a coalition of republicans and democrats to get it done and he said he would stop defendsing the so-called marriage act because on its face it's unconstitutional. we would like him to say he supports marriage equality, and i expect he soon will. >> do you have any -- i guess, any -- any issue with him possibly coming out and saying he does it next week, and says i support gay marriage. are you support that would then fire up the other side, fire up the base, the conservatives, the
republican party, and they would come out strongly to try and defeat the president. do you think it could do more harm for your cause than good? >> i think the entire country is moving and that includes democrats and republicans on this issue. look, all recent polls show that over 50% of americans support marriage equality. in new york, it's a super majority, nearly 60%. the country is evolving and the president is evolving and we're all evolving towards justice and fairness and equality. what we are fighting for is the right for loving and committed couples to make a lifelong commitment to the person they love. and protect their families. this is a conservative value that we're fighting for. we look at the coalition we are looking for in new york, of business leaders and professional athletes and democrats and independents and upstate and downstate and super majority support all over the state and we're seeing that all throughout the country like dick
cheney and laura bush and barbara bush, and so i don't think that this is going to remain a partisan issue. this is where the country is moving as a whole. >> we appreciate you taking the time out again. the senior strat gist for the human rights campaign. we are waiting for the action to be taken in new york to approve same-sex marriage in new york. we'll talk to you soon if there is action in new york. thank you so much. to the viewers, we have a lot of moving parts in the newscast. this is happening live as you see right now. another sidebar it appears with the lawyers, the prosecutors and the defense attorneys in the casey anthony trial. we're expecting casey anthony's brother to step up and testify. he broke down earlier in tears at one point when the questioning turned to his sister and her pregnancy. we're keeping an eye on that. and then another close eye
on capitol hill. they are debating another libya issue. this one would severely cut the funding to the u.s. military and its participation in the nato-led effort in libya. so a vote here to possibly full the funding. we're standing by for that as well. we'll bring both of those to you as they happen. right now the alleged mob boss, bulger, who has been on the run for 16 years, and he is presumed to be on his way back in boston where he has a court date in a couple hours in boston. all that happening right here so stay with us.
alleged mob boss, "whitey" bulger headed back to boston to appear in court. the former leader of a gang managed to evade the fbi for 16 years. authorities captured the pair in california on wednesday, and bulger is now 81 years old and faced 19 counts of murder, extortion and a list of other charges. we have been seeing what may be some of the most emotional testimony in the casey anthony murder trial. we're standing by now for her brother to take the stand. we're seeing live pictures on the camera fixed on casey anthony. another camera showing a sidebar, and seeing a lot of side conversations as the judge called the attorneys over. a lot of breaks to discuss a variety of things. her brother expected to be back on the stand. we'll take you back there when that testimony kicks up. also, coastal communities in
alaska are breathing easier today. a tsunami issued after a 7.2 earthquake yesterday. no longer in effect. the earthquake prompted 155-mile radius tsunami warning. there have been no reports of injuries or significant structural damage from the earthquake. also the third annual congressional women's softball game was a nail biter last night. things got started with supreme court justice, sotomayor throwing out the first pitch. the game was close until the end, and one of florida's own planted a big hit that ended that game in a 5-4 decision. the drug company scoring a big win. what your neighborhood pharmacy can now reveal about your drug-buying habits.
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you see the attorneys muddled there on the right side of the screen and another camera fixed on casey anthony. we are expecting casey anthony's brother to get back on the stand. when he does, we will bring that to you live. meanwhile, score one for your local pharmacies. the u.s. supreme court ruled pharmacies can sell your prescription information to drug companies. they can't, however, reveal your name. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, explains what this means for you. >> i think it was surprising to a lot of people here, and a lot of people don't know this. every time you get your prescription filled, there's a lot of information collected, age, gender, and your dosage, and the doctor that prescribed it as well, and that information could be shared with pharmaceutical companies for marketing purposeses
specifically. the supreme court decided that could continue to happen. why is this important to pharmaceutical companies? about 4 billion prescriptions are written, and pharmaceutical companies want to know which doctors are prescribing what and if they are prescribing a competitors drug, they want to make sure they are sending the reps out to the doctors and hospital to tout the benefits of their drug. this has been hapg for sometime and will continue to happen. there's a lot of data from the pharmaceutical companies on exactly what they get in exchange for the information. they note, for example, and this has been panned out in studies, if the sales reps go to doctor officers, it does make a difference. and they know for every dollar they spend in the targeted advertising or marketing, they get $10.60 back. it's a huge return. and there is a cost issue.
my guess, certain medications, much more expensive than others, for example, a blood pressure medication that costs $160 a month, compared to one that costs $12 a month. for the consumer, i think it means asking a lot of questions of your doctor, at your pharmacy, and asking why you are getting a particular medication. is there other alternatives. could some of those alternatives be cheaper. and trying to figure out was there influence from the reps to your doctors. we're standing by for two live events. a vote happening on the house floor. this vote would severely
restrict the funding for the u.s. military and its effort in libya. that's going on right now. we're expecting voting to go on for the next ten or 15 minutes. when we do is the final numbers, we will bring that to you and check in with dana bash on capitol hill. and then the casey anthony trial continues. one camera showing the parents in the back row and casey anthony and her attorneys. we are expecting the brother to take the stand. he has given emotional testimony already. when he gets back on the stand, you will see it live right here. two big live events taking place. stay with us. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. at our kearl project in canada, we'll be able to produce these oil sands with the same emissions as many other oils and that's a huge breakthrough. that's good for our country's energy security
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we're watching the vote right now on capitol hill. it's a bill that would severely restrict the funding for the war effort in libya. we're expecting it to be open for the next ten minutes or so and when we get the results of that we will let you know. we will check in with dana bash, and another live event we're standing by for is in the casey anthony murder trial. this huddle has been going on for sometime. the attorneys and the prosecution and the defense attorneys are huddled with the judge there. we are standing by. the testimony will resume and
casey anthony's brother lee is expected to take the stand. looks like they are breaking now. we will keep a close eye on this, and when lee goes back up, we will get back to it. meanwhile, let me get into other stories making headlines. anti-government protesters taking to the streets in syria today. new demonstrations against the president there. at least 11 people were killed. snipers killed three people in the capital of damascus. meanwhile in the north hundreds of syrians continue to cross the border into turkey fleeing a military crackdown. more than 11,000 syrians are now in the country. anti-government demonstrations sweeping across yemen today. as they have for weeks now. protesters shouted demands that the president there step down. he is now in saudi arabia
recovering from the wounds from the attack on the presidential house last month. first lady, michelle obama in the second leg of her trip to south africa. she is speaking about her first stop in south africa and her meeting with the south african president, nelson mandela. >> i wanted to make sure he understood how important his leadership and sacrifice has been to who i have become to who my husband has become. in short i just said thank you. it's really hard to know what to say to such an icon. >> mrs. obama was scheduled to meet with the president today and visit a park before returning back home. let's get back to the casey anthony trial. a quit break and you will hear
trial. her brother, lee, being cross examined. let's listen in. >> i was present during a discussion where information came out that i thought it was important for jose specifically to be made aware of. i took days later, as i had no indication that he was going to be made aware of it. i took it upon myself to do that. >> was this on the subjects that you have discussed under direct examination here today? >> no, sir. none of those items were discussed, no. >> now, in reference to your discovery of your sister's pregnancy, did i understand you to say on direct that you did have a conversation with casey when you discovered what you referred to as "the bump"? >> if i said "bump," i
apologize. i don't recall saying that. >> no. the evidence that you thought. >> i more or less made a remark. i don't know if i was even expecting a response, because i didn't really get one. i just said something of what the hell is that in passing. >> do you recall having your deposition taken on july 30th of 2009, almost two years ago, in reference to this case? >> yes, sir, i do. >> and you were oath at the time, were you not? >> yes, i was. >> and you were questioned by mr. george, is that correct? >> yes, i was. >> and mr. baez was present along with other counsel, correct? >> yes, sir, he was. >> this is from page 30 -- let me start at 30. page 31, line 6. can we show that to the witness?
let me publish to the witness. all right. can you show about line 6 to line 15? do you recall that series of questions and answers about the event of your seeing the bump or the bulge? >> i recall this testimony, yes. >> and in that testimony you were asked whether you i believe the word was called her out on it i it, that being the bump? >> correct. >> i'm going to object to proper xwree impeachment. the witness has testified that it refreshed his recollection. >> this is impeachment, judge. >> overruled. >> when asked if you called her out on it, you said it wasn't
really my place. i think if i did, not directly to her. do you recall saying that? >> yes. >> in july of 2009, you indicated that you did not say anything directly to her about it, but your testimony here today was that you did? >> well, sir, i also did not call her out on it when she showed up at the airport to pick me up, and it was quite obvious at that point as well. i don't know exactly which scenario this one is referring to. maybe if you'd refer to it. >> can we show the witness. >> show the date or time. >> show the witness page 30, and we'll let you read the whole context. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> no problem. >> i would ask that counsel read his entire answer, not just half of it. >> read the entire answer. >> if i may, the remainder of the answer does not deal with this subject matter, it deals with a separate subject matter. >> just the subject.
>> you can do it on redirect. >> have you read the context? >> i didn't really have a starting point. i just kind of started in the middle, so would you like me to read that entire page. >> just to yourself to establish the context of whether this was the first occasion you saw the bulge or the airport occasion. this was a reference to the first occasion, wasn't it?
>> all right. t.j. holmes here at the cnn newsroom joined by attorney holly hughes watching it with me. we're keeping an our on it. for our viewers catching up, what is the point, the purpose of trying to get at the bulge and when he found out she was pregnant? what is the prosecution trying to get at, and why has this become such a point of contention here? >> this is the heart of the defense's case. that this family kept secrets, t.j. they didn't tell the truth. they didn't operate like normal people. he's trying to back door that abuse excuse. the defense got him on direct, he being lee, being casey anthony's brother. were there secrets in the family? you didn't talk about the fact when she was obviously pregnant? you all didn't discuss it. what he's trying to do is get just enough evidence in that he
can rg uto the jury in closing. they can infer things from the evidence. that this was a family of secret keepers. they kept things quiet, so therefore he can argue what else did they keep quiet? if he can do that, then he gets into some of the evidence he said he was going to present in his opening without having to put casey on the stand, because we all know if she gets on that stand, t.j., it's going to be in evis rags. they'll bring up every lie she ever told. the prosecutor is trying to backtrack and say, okay, you're saying that now that we're in trial now that she's facing the death penalty. back when you gave your deposition, you told us something completely different, didn't you? >> let's listen in quickly. >> i didn't pay a lot of attention. it was something i was told to let go and not address, and i was frankly quite angry that i wasn't included in it.
so it's a little easier to block it out at that time. >> so you said mr. anthony. can we have page 35 of the deposition, please. could you just read that whole page, mr. anthony, for me? >> yes, sir. >> to yourself. >> all right. as he reads that page to himself, as the prosecutor just said, we will take a quick break. we're getting close to the top of the hour. we will rejoin the testimony of lee anthony, the brother of casey anthony, when we come back. [ waves crashing ]
we're at the top of the hour at the cnn newsroom. we're keeping a close eye on the casey anthony murder trial. it's been an emotional day of testimony. her brother lee is on the stand. he's given tearful testimony today. we will keep a close eye on this, and we'll take you back to it here in just a moment. we have other important news we need to get to. this just happened up on capitol hill, and let me bring in dana bash for it, who joins me now. dana, we were watching a couple of votes there in the house today. this was the second one that would pull some funding, pull a lot of funding from the military effort in libya. what happened? >> reporter: this is supposed to be a big double-barrel blow to the president when it it comes to the libya mission, but this bill, which the republican
leadership thought was going to pass, actually failed. so it turned into an oops for the republicans here in the house. what this bill was supposed to do was to take away funding for most of the mission, at least the combat part of the mission in libya. the goal there was to make it clear to the president that the house of representatives is not happy with the fact he's not come to congress for consultation and specifically authorization, but we're fotold after watching people scramble to go to the house floor to figure out what was going on here in a moment of drama that apparently there were enough republicans who the leadership thought would vote for this. they thought what this ended up being was authorization for the mission in general. that they didn't support it. it was a little bit of a mess, if you will, and republican leaders are insisting they did not actually whip this, which means they didn't know which way they're membership was going to go. i can tell you point-blank that the republicans were confident
going in this will pass and send a strong message to the president that he's simply wrong on this. this is something not expected here, and as one of my colleagues said, everybody is rewriting their leads. earlier there was a vote on the president. there was a vote on a vote to authorize it, and it failed. >> they were trying to send a message, and it backfired. dana bash, we appreciate you hopping in front of the camera for us. as promised we're keeping a close eye on the other live event right now in a courtroom in florida. casey anthony, the murder trial continues. her brother is on the stand. i am joined in studio by holly hughes, an attorney here. we will be giving -- she will give you the analysis as we continue to listen to this together. >> i was not being made a part of it, so i'm not going to go out of approximate my way to invite myself or to know everything that's going on if i'm led to believe that i
shouldn't be involved with it. so if that hopefully answers that question on why i wasn't an attentive potential uncle, i wish i was, but i was not. >> but your parents weren't hiding this fact from their friends and loved ones? they invited them to a party? >> no, they weren't. >> objection, judge, as to this witness' knowledge of what his parents would do with their friends. >> sustained. >> during this deposition, mr. anthony, we discussed the period of time leading up to the birth of your niece, and we discussed, in fact, whether you were present when she was born, is that correct? do you recall that? >> i don't recall if we did. as far as me being present or not. >> okay.
page 36 just for the witness, line -- let me sure this is published to the witness. yes. line 22 to the end of the page. that's for the witness. do you recall that question and answer? >> i see the portion of my answer, yes, sir, and i recall the question. >> did you cry during that portion of this deposition, mr. anthony? to your recollection? >> i don't recall if i did. i don't think so. >> what was different two hours ago in this courtroom about that question that caused such raw emotion today, which was not present two years ago when you were asked the same thing? >> there was other things that were asked in my deposition, specifically if i believed
caylee was -- >> objection, your honor. nonresponsive. >> sustained. >> what was different about the question being asked of you -- >> i'm going to object. i think we need to hear what the answer is. >> i sustained the objection to the question. >> the question before you, mr. anthony, is this. what was different about the way the emotion with which you answered that question two hours ago, what was different than the emotion that you did not display when asked the same question two years ago? >> two years ago i did not 100% hold the belief that caylee was dead. at this very moment, two hours ago, and during that two-year sp i've come to the place where i believe that she is.
and my emotions are elicited from those facts that i have regrets, and i wish i could have been there a lot more than i was. >> mr. anthony, you attended and spoke at a memorial service for caylee in january of 2009. that was six months before this deposition was taken, didn't you? >> yes, sir, i did. >> you -- no further questions. >> redirect as to those issues. >> yes, sir. >> mr. anthony, you were asked about -- can i see that?
you were asked about a stain somewhere in this vicinity, the size of a basketball? may i publish this, your honor? >> yes. what's the exhibit number. >> state's exhibit 80. you may publish. >> yes, i was asked about that. >> do you see a basketball-sized stain there? >> the photograph speaks for itself. >> overruled. >> do you see any basketball-sized stain there at all? >> i see a few stains. nothing necessarily that's the size of a basketball, no. >> do you see white powder of some sort? >> objection. the photograph speaks for itself. the witness has no basis to
answer that question. >> overruled. >> i do, and that's not what i would even reference necessarily as a stain that i was referring to. a white powder is a lot different than a stain. >> point to me where you see a stain in that area where mr. ashton was questioning you. if you see one. >> in this section, i do not. it's very hard to see from this photo, but there is a stain here and there's a stain here. there's also things that are circled right there at b, it looks like a different color of powder or substance. i don't know exactly what that is. the stains i was referring to were darker in nature, almost like -- i apologize. i'm color-blind, so my interpretation of it might be different. more like a red or a black sort of just darker, deeper color. >> did you see your mother use an entire bottle of febreze in
the trunk of car. >> objection. exceeds the scope of cross. >> overruled. >> never. >> did you see law enforcement spray the entire trunk with blue star? >> i don't know what that is, and no. >> okay. now mr. ashton asked you about whether you had met with myself in reference to your testimony. did you meet with the defense at any time prior to trial? let me rephrase that. let me narrow that down a bit. >> okay. >> did you meet with the defense prior to you testifying for the state of florida against your sister? >> no, sir, i did not. >> did you advise us of any testimony you intended to give for the state of florida against your sister? >> no, sir.
>> okay. did you testify truthfully when you testified for the state of florida -- >> objection. >> sustained. >> can i bring up page 31. >> what are we publishing? >> the question and answer asked by -- during his deposition. >> it was offered or published by the state of florida. >> i'd like to question the witness about it, your honor. >> you can question it, but show it to the witness. go ahead. >> yes, sir. page 31. >> we're ready. >> i'm double-checking. can you go to 30? i'm sorry.
>> page what? >> 30. i'm just double-checking. i want to follow-up on a question. 31. i'm sorry. it's 31. 31. you were asked, can you review lines 12 through 14? >> again, standing by here with attorney holly hughes as we watch this. what was the prosecutor -- that was a dramatic moment a short time ago. the prosecutor asking mr. lee anthony, casey's brother, why is it earlier today you were crying when you were asked about your sister's pregnancy, but in your deposition the same question was asked and you weren't crying
then? what essentially was that prosecutor saying? >> the unspoken part of that question, t.j., is you big faker. what he's trying to signal in his questioning to the jury is, consider what's happening here, people. he was asked this exact question after he already knew the little girl was dead. there was a memorial service in january. he didn't give him deposition until six months later, and when it's just a rumor, nobody is watching and it's just the lawyers and the witness, he's not emotional, t.j. he doesn't get all broken up about it. he's not crying and weeping. so the prosecutor says to him, hey, back whether n we asked yo about this before, you weren't crying and weeping then. what's different now? >> that's a way to signal to the jury you might be looking at a really good actor here, and that's what he wants to get across. >> we will continue to keep a close eye, and we're listening into this. we're going to squeeze in a
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we have holly hughes standing by with some analysis. let's listen in right now. >> you were asked why you didn't cry during the deposition. >> yes, sir. >> is sitting here today much different than sitting in the state attorney's office two years ago? >> objection. leading. >> overruled. >> absolutely. >> and can you share with the ladies and gentlemen of the jury why? >> i don't want to be here. i don't want, you know, my sister and my parents to be here. it's -- i'm also emotionally and
all that stuff in a muff different place. than i was a couple years ago. this is obviously just very, very emotionally draining and very difficult. >> mr. ashton asked you about giving a speech at caylee's memorial. that was prior to your deposition. and you testified about not -- at your deposition not believing caylee was dead. is that correct? >> i was not willing to write it off at that point in time. i didn't want to believe it. i couldn't believe it at that time. >> so you were able after having a funeral for your niece to block her death out of your
emotions for approximately six months? >> objection. leading. >> sustained. >> were you able to block that out of -- that emotion out of you, compartmentalize it it? >> same objection. >> sustained. >> what were you able to do in regards to the death of your niece emotionally for six months? >> i don't know the exact time frame. i don't even know when i really came to the belief that i have now that she is no longer with us. i mean, i could still tell you even with that belief, if there was someone is that looked familiar to her today, i would turn my head, and it would make me look twice or three times or a hundred times. i don't know when i really -- that really changed for me.
i know last year was particularly hard for me around caylee's birthday and my birthday. during the time of the deposition specifically and they had even asked me at one point if i believed she was dead and i remember it being a big joke to some people that i didn't want to believe it or couldn't believe it. at the time i didn't believe it. i couldn't believe it. right now i do. so i'm -- i've had a very, very tough time with that. >> who was it a joke to? >> objection. relevance. >> sustained. >> i have no further questions. >> again, i am -- >> recross. >> mr. anthony, you remember when you testified for the state
of florida? do you remember? >> july 2009, i think you referenced it earlier, yes, sir. >> when you testified for the state of florida as mr. baez pointed to. >> yes, sir. i apologize. yes, sir. >> how many times did mr. george have to step up to you and show you your deposition to refresh your recollection about -- >> objection, judge. the record speaks for itself. >> it goes to bias, your honor. >> relevance. >> overruled. >> probably as many times i've been shown here today by yourself and mr. baez. two or three times. i don't recall. i wasn't kointing. >> in your direct examination by mr. baez, did he need to refresh your recollection at all? >> he referenced me to a few pages he asked me to read. i don't believe he qualified anything he did to refresh my recollection, though, no, sir. >> during his initial direct
examination, your testimony is you recall him having to refresh your recollection? >> i don't believe so. >> your recollection was just fine for the questions mr. baez asked you in your initial direct, weren't they. >> on all these i believe they were, yeah. >> when mr. george attempted to question you on direct examination, your memory was more troublesome. >> it's hard to remember something you did two years ago, absolutely. >> could i have just for myself and the witness page 31 of the deposition. lines 17 through 24. i'm sorry. lines 15 through 24, please. it you were asked the question at the deposition, did you say anything to your mom, say, hey, casey's looking and your answer was probably. at a minimum probably of
passing. i don't think i ever made a big enough deal, because, you know, if my mom didn't make it a big deal or shrugged me off -- >> objection. this is not impeachment. >> it is impeachment, your honor. >> overruled. >> she shrugged me off or either i was wrong or my sister was just getting fat or for whatever reason they don't want me involved in it either way. at deposition your recollection was at best that you probably spoke to your mother. >> that's what this says here, is probably. i do remember speaking to my mother, but that says probably. >> so your recollection is better today than in july of 2009 in the deposition? >> if you assume that because i didn't say the word "probably" today, sure. >> you will admit your recitation seems to be somewhat not a big deal. i don't remember it very well, correct? >> argumentative. >> sustained as to the last
question. >> you said probably at minimum of passing. i don't think i ever made a big deal. >> objection. excuse me, mr. ashton. my objection is this has been asked and answered. he's read this already. >> sustained. >> if we could go to page 33, please. lines 1 through 8. read that, please. >> to myself? >> yes, to yourself. >> if you need to see the page before, i'll be happy to show it to you. >> quickly, holly hughes, what is the prosecutor trying to get at? >> it pains me to say this because i think jeff ashton is one of the best i've ever seen in all the years i've practiced and i've watched these trials and covered them. he's pushing the envelope here.
he's trying to prove that lee anthony has changed up his testimony. he's making it more dramatic and positive toward his sister and family. he's trying to show the jury that lee has a bias, and that bias is to help the defense here when he clearly wasn't trying to help the prosecution. he was called as a prosecution witness earlier, and it was very difficult for mr. george, who was the prosecutor questioning him at the time, to draw that information out. it was like pulling teeth. that was so long ago, mr. george had to say look back at your deposition. jeff ash to know ton is pointinn the defense attorney questions him, suddenly he doesn't have trouble remembering. he's much clearer three years after the fact. that should not be the case. memory fades, but he has to be careful here. this is emotional testimony. this is take family no matter what you think of them in forment.
>> we're watching this video. it looks like they might be down with lee anthony, the brother of casey anthony. it it looks like he left the stand. it looks like the prosecutor made his point, he didn't remember much when the prosecution talked to him. when the defense got up it seemed like his memory is just fine. he's up here trying to help his sister out and put some doubt into that testimony. >> absolutely. >> holly hughes thank you so much for being with us and sticking around with us in the courtroom. you're going to be with me tomorrow as well. court is going to resume tomorrow, so you'll be here helping us through it tomorrow morning on cnn saturday morning. thank you so much for being here. we'll take a quick break here. be right back. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.
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them after all these years. what do they credit for bringing him to justice? this service announcement. they were targeting older women. they aired this in places where older womenmy be watching. they thought it was the best way to get to him was his girlfriend. maybe that worked. trips to the beauty salon and regular teeth cleanings may have what led police to their front door. d deb is covering the story for us. he has a court time at least set up. >> reporter: well, he does, and that's pretty much or barometer, our gauge. there's a huge truck that pulled up behind us, so i can't show you the barricades set up around the courthouse a little while ago. whitey bulger and his girlfriend expected to come here under tight security. they will not confirm whether,
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right tip came in. take a listen. >> as it came in as a direct result to the campaign to us. it was fub niched to our los angeles office and relayed back to our command post we set up contemporaneous with the initiation of campaign. the tip was analyzed and vetted very rapidly and thoroughly. we determined it to have good potential and determined it to be credible. so we passed that information back to our los angeles field office, who deployed the agents and task force officers to the vicinity of the location in santa monica and were able to identify bulger and grieg there and safely and quickly affect the arrests. >> reporter: t.j., take a look. that's some of the security. you can see some of the police down there. the barricades that have been set up. cars, obviously, slowing down to figure out exactly what's going on here at the courthouse. he's scheduled to be arraigned
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potentially damaging evidence has been discovered on a cell phone belonging to osama bin laden's trusted courier. the phone was seized dur the u.s. raid that killed bin laden last month in pakistan. the times says contacts on that cell phone are those of a militant group that's an asset of pakistan's powerful spy agency known as the isi. let's bring in michael holmes here. smoking gun or not? >> not really. it doesn't actually prove -- of course, the big suspicion was whether the intelligence services, the isi, had been protecting osama bin laden. this group, this group has links to the isi. there's no doubt about it. the isi monitors them and
controls them to some extent. there's no actual evidence that links the contacts between the courier to this group back to the isi. it's significant. we'll give you background, of course. the navy s.e.a.l.s got osama because they tracked him back, and the courier was killed. they got that treasure trove of stuff, the computer drives and cell phones and the like. whether they went through the courier's cell phone, they found these contacts. the group is calmed harakah-ul-mujahedeen. he was using this group as part of his support system in pakist pakistan. it has deep roots in the area, so they chose that. it doesn't necessarily show that the isi was directly involved although a lot of people believe they were. >> at the same time in the next breath you said this is still
significant, but it's raising some questions. the possibility is still there there was that connection. zulg >> absolutely. the isi in the '80s formed a lot of militant groups or groups that worked as proxies in afghanistan and kashmir and doing the dirty work of the isi. what has happened in recent years is a lot of groups have bitten them in the you know what. a lot of those groups carry outerorout terror attacks. the isi is a mysterious group. the government doesn't know what they're doing half the time. that's a criticism. it's like the cia running around and doing all sorts of things, and the government not finding out what it was doing. very suspicious group. you had osama bin laden living, you know, a two-minute drive from a military installation in
an area controlled by or has links with this militant group. >> last thing, are we getting any response to this isi reporting from the isa or pakistani government? >> they're denying it. the group is denying it. they say we didn't have contact with him. they did have contact with al qaeda over the years. they set up joint training camps and had a lot of links, and osama bin laden knew the leader of this group. they had no contact with osama bin laden in recent years. you take that with a grain of salt. >> michael hoemlmes, good to se you. we're going live to a town in north dakota coming up. a town that you some will tell you about to be wiped out by flooding. stay with us. my cream is what makes stouffer's fettuccini alfredo
we are closely monitors what's happened in minot, north dakota. the mayor says the flood is hitting the city deeper and harder than they expected. the situation is growing more urgent lilt rterally by the hou. the river is rising to levels never seen before. it snakes its way through canada through minot, north dakota. this is a real threat, and the flood could wipe out the city, a third of the town displaced now, 12,000 people already underevacuation orders, and more people could be forced to leave homes soon. emergency crews are fighting to built makeshift levees and fighting to save what they can of the town. it's too late for some homes and
businesses already. let's bring in jim spellman standing by. jim, even in the last hour since i talked to you, you talked about a minute by minute, hour by hour. how is it changing hour by hour? >> he yeah, people are starting to call this lake minot, t.j. we sat here all day watching this little part of minot especially disappear. this is a road that went down underneath a railroad trestle here into the main part of the evacuation area here. we watched the street signs disappear and everything. you can see how high it is up to the traffic lights. what's impressive, t.j., is even though it surpassed the record, this water rises about another 7 feet. i'm 63th. that means this much more waurlt. that will put these makeshift dikes around city hall and the police station into jeopardy.
they're just about at that level. they're shoring them up all day, adding sandbags and plastic drapes. originally they thought it would crest on tuesday, and then it was monday and sunday and now we think tomorrow night. they're running out of options, t.j. >> we talked about these evacuation orders. are more evacuation orders possibly coming? >> it's possible, but at this point honestly they've gotten everybody out of the valley of the city they can. it's sort of a low area along the river right in the middle of city essentially dividing minot in half. they have everybody out of that low-lying area up. they've known for at least a few days that this was going to be catastrophic there. not a little bit of water on your basement, but water most likely up to the roof lines of most of the homes in the evacuation area. t.j. >> jim spellman is keeping an eye on things there.
we want to remindz your viewers or tell you right now, we've been watching the casey anthony trial. you saw the testimony of her brother a short time ago. now it appears they have called her mother, cindy, back to the stand. we are going to go and listen in to this now. >> was it before or after caylee was born? >> caylee was supposed to be born in september. we had the shower slated for august the 13th, and caylee was born on the 9th. so i had to switch the invitations. i had to contact everybody and change the date of the baby shower. >> just so we're clear, though, was the baby shower held before caylee was born or after she was born? >> i just stated it was after caylee was born because caylee came a month early. >> i understand that. i just wanted to be clear about that. your honor, may i approach the witness? >> you may.
>> what is that a photograph of? i'm sorry. excuse me. i'm showing you defense exhibit er. >> your honor, mr. baez has shown these series of photographs, and i have an objection to all of them in relevance. >> pardon? >> mr. baez showed these photographs to me and i have an objection on the series of them on grounds of relevance. >> okay. >> i object to a description of the photograph prior to its submission. >> okay. all you need to do is establish does she recognize it, and whether or not it adequately and accurately describes the subject matter therein. you can offer them, and we'll see if they object. >> do you recognize the photograph, mrs. anthony? >> yes.
>> is it a true and accurate depiction of what it actually is? >> yes. >> at this time, your honor, i would move exhibit e.r. into evidence. >> it's e.r. i'm sorry, sir. >> i would have an objection at this point as indicated on relevance grounds. >> you want to approach the sidebar, mr. baez? >> yes, sir. >> it appears here we go again. we have seen actually a lot of this throughout the day today when her mother was on the stand earlier, her mother is on the
stand again and her brother was on the stand earlier, but there were a lot of sidebars with the attorneys discussing things that the other people in the courtroom were not able to hear. cindy anthony is back on the stand right now. we'll continue to keep an eye on what's happening there in the courtroom and certainly take you back to that if they get going again here in the next few minutes. quick break here in "the cnn newsroom." we'll be right back. . spiriva helps control my copd symptoms... by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. and it's steroid-free. spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and call your doctor right away if your breathing suddenly worsens,
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lrtd all right. the attorneys, the prosecution and defense attorneys huddling with the judge on the side. they get together and do what attorneys do on the side talking to the judge. casey anthony's trial continues and her mother back on the stand right now. we're expecting that testify to resume at any moment. we're going to take a break here and go to politics now. we turn to our political update from our cnn deputy director paul steinhauser in washington for us. what's going on with the president here? he missed a major latino conference, and i assume somebody is letting him hear about that? >> reporter: i think some people are upset with that. latino voters, we can't how much more important they are and with every election they're more influential. we have representatives there from cnn covering the event. the president is not there. he has a lot on his schedule,
and it says himt not going is not a reflection of him not caring at all about latinos and hispani hispanics. they say what he does every day to work on the economy and trying to progress immigration legislation is proof. let's be honest, there has been no immigration reform as he talked about whether he was running for president. that has upsetting some latinos. the congressman said still a supporter of the president, bullet he said appearances do matter. the fact the president isn't there, that is troubling to him, t.j. >> all right. you talked a second ago, and everybody understandses how important the hispanic vote is. can you put that in a perspective here. how important. >> oh, yeah. look at numbers. look at the percentage of latino and hispanics who voted for democrats in the last elections. from four to six to eight there was an increase of democrats voting fosh -- latinos and his
panics voting for democrats. look at that. it dropped off a little bit in the midterms last year. only 60% of hispanics voted for the democrats, and that may be troubling as well. this is the president's approve rating among latinos and hispanics. look at the drop from 2009 to this spring, 63%. that 63% still higher than the president's approval rating overall right now among all americans in the mid 40s to all those things. there are four states where the latino and hispanic vote could be crucial in the race for the white house. those battleground states, florida, nevada, new mexico, and colorado. those four states, the latino and hispanic vote could be crucial. these are battleground states the president wants to win and the republicans like to grab back. these states are important in control of the senate as well. >> paul, appreciate you as always.
thank you so much. we head back now. cindy anthony is back to the stand testifying in her daughter's defense. let's listen back in as she is -- it looks like the attorneys did break their huddle. >> is this a photograph taken at your brother's wedding? >> yes. >> and is it a photograph of you and your daughter? >> yes. >> and at the time that that photograph was taken, did you believe that your daughter was pregnant? >> no, i did not. >> did anyone advise you that your daughter was pregnant? >> objection. >> exception to the hearsay rule, mr. baez? >> i'll withdraw the question. >> okay. >> judge, at this time i would move into evidence this as
defense exhibit a. >> state. >> same objection as previously lodged on relevance. >> the objection is overruled. that would be admitted. that will become defense number 66. >> mrs. anthony, who attended the baby shower? >> casey's grandmothers, her aun aunts, some of my friends, just s jesse grund's mother, neighbors. >> was lee present? >> no, none of the guys were present. >> i have no further questions. >> you may.