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republican presidential debate. t.j., it's going to be a good one. we'll talk about it all weekend. >> of course we will. paul steinhauser, also good to see you. thank you so much in tampa. to our viewers, of course, 8:00 eastern time oon monday. the tea party at cnn debates. right now, close to the top of the hour, let me hand this over to brooke baldwin. she continues in the cnn newsroom. >> we like that. nice and early. >> a little bow on it and everything. >> very nice. we'll be watching you bright and early. hello to all of you. i'm brook pauld win. we're getting new information on this possible terrorist plot, keyed to the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. this new information suggests we are talking about al qaeda. take a look at this. this is fresh individual crow from washing where the initial warning was issued last night. it began emerging on wednesday. it's very fresh information. law enforcement authorities
struggling to piece it together. from the capitol, we want to show you images from new york city. scenes just like this. police popping up in the backs of trucks. taking a close look at trucks, vans. here is what we have learned just within the past hour. all of this coming from intel sources in washington. they say their source of information is a communications intercept involving a known al qaeda operative in pakistan. this known operative is said to have discussed a vehicle bomb attack against either new york or washington on the tenth anniversary of 9/11. we'll get you more details on that momentarily. but first, i want to -- okay. we're going to get straight to our terror expert. terrorism analyst out of new york. paul, we have heard that authorities are trying to trace the movements of -- it's not one, it's not two. apparently these three individuals, including possibly one american, these three may have recently entered the u.s. or perhaps are on the way.
what more can you tell us about that? >> well, i think the key point here is this could be an al qaeda central plot against the united states. so the intelligence suggests that these individuals coming back to america, including an american citizen are linked to alae central. at this point point it's uncorroborated information. they're not corroborating the information. but it's caused a lot of concern in u.s. counterterrorism cycles right now, brooke. >> haven't we, when i say we, the u.s. been looking for something like this? didn't the cia in the raid in a bot bad find a notebooks with writings about mounting an attack on such an anniversary as this sunday? >> well, that's absolutely right. osama bin laden appears to have been somewhat obsessed by attacking the united states ten years after 9/11. he was handwriting some notes about this. he also reportedly was in communication with another al
qaeda operative. trying to think through how they could launch this sort of attack. within this contact, this threat information through to u.s. intelligence, it's concerning. brooke, this is not a lone wolf amateur here. this is al qaeda central. over the years, they've given bomb making training in the tribal areas of pakistan, including two years ago there was a plot here to attack the new york subway system. a lot of concern right now, brooke. >> here we are, though, paul, ten years just about after the 9/11 attacks. you can see we're getting more video of police there in manhattan, lower manhattan prepping for the memorial. very vigilant in the wake of some of this possible threats. we know as you mentioned, osama bin laden he's now dead. al qaeda very much still in business. i want to throw an image on the screen. i want you paul, kruk shank to tell me, who is this man? he's a saudi american. why may he be of interest?
>> this individual is an american, but he was born in saudi arabia. over the years, he's risen up through the ranks in al qaeda. he helped orchestrate the plot against new york city. he's someone who has handled american recruits in the tribal areas of pakistan before that would understand american vulnerabilities. playing an operational role for this terrorist group now in the tribal areas of pakistan. likely a more senior role. we've seen the leaders taken out by drone strikes. someone like this man could be involved in al qaeda plot now against the united states. at this point it's uncorroborated information. that's important to stress, brooke. >> uncorroborated. as we're trying to confirm what we can, intel sources are saying that their source of information is this communications intercept. could it also involve that high level al qaeda operative arrested last wednesday in pakistan? >> it's very possible.
he was a high-level operative in africa. recently, the arrest of that -- earlier this week, he's been intimately involved against europe and mumbai plot, just late last year and also pakistani officials saying that he was actually now involved in plotting against the united states against economic interests of the you state, also against the united states. homeland was actually in touch with bin laden on this. i think u.s. intelligence agencies will be keen to get access to this individual more tan i, the pakistanis say the united states have not had access to this individual, this senior al qaeda operative that could be -- could have very important information in regard to this threat, brooke? >> the u.s. since he's in pakistan, isi has -- to talk to him. when might that happen? >> we don't know if that has happened to -- the cia would be
dean indeed to speak to this information to get information from this individual because this is someone intimately involved as i was seeing in al qaeda plotting against the west. they know about the plot that we seem to be getting information about right now, brooke. >> paul, do me a favor. stand by for me. i want to bring in allan chernoff who is standing by live following the different checks, the high, high vigilance there in the island of manhattan as people are coming and going. trucks, vans, allan, what are you seeing? what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, brooke, i can tell you that the terror threat you've been talking about is the reason we have so many of these checkpoints all over manhattan. we're at the beginning of the upper west side. there are checkpoints downtown, midtown and above us. further up the west side. it's really a traffic nightmare here. what's going on is that the police officers are visually
inspecting cars as they go by. one by one we're merging here four lanes of traffic into one. they also are pulling aside trucks and vans if they believe there might possibly be anything suspicious. they're also wearing detectors, larger than my audio box here that can tell them if there's any radiation coming from the vehicle. those detectors will vibrate f anything were to be found. also, the other measures that will be taking they're checking license plates. not just vijish ully, but the police have scanners. in some cases they're on police vehicles. they're all the time in new york, at bridges and tunnels scanning license plates in case there are any stolen plates, any other plates that are of note to the police. that's another alert they're taking. they're supposed to be aggressively towing vehicles. however, this vehicle that has been standing right here, it's been ticketed, it's standing
here illegally, hasn't been towed just yet. brooke, other than that, as you see, very, very aggressive presence by the police. >> at least where you are, allan, the traffic appears to be free flowing. we're looking at the pictures on the bridge. it seems to be crawling along. have you had a chance to talk to new yorkers going through this? are they frustrated, apprehensive or just grateful that police are being so thorough? >> reporter: well, i spoke to a truck driver a little while ago. told me it took him an hour and a half to travel essentially three miles down the west side of manhattan. he said it's the worst traffic that he has ever driven in, in all his years of being a truck driver here in new york city. but when the police officer pulled him over, had him open up his truck, he said to the officer, you've got a job to do. it's frustrating, but we all understand it.
it's basically the street equivalent of what we all go through at the airport. well, now we've got it in new york city and the police are going to keep this up through 9/11. >> we know they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't find it necessary. allan chernoff, thank you very much. paul kruk shank, my thanks to you as well. now this. i don't want to feel like -- i have to remind myself about where we were with each other. then i'm caught between having to move on because i'm still only 34. >> a film crew checked in with these people every year since 9/11. five people who are either injured in the world trade center, lost loved ones on 9/11 like that woman lost her fiancee. it's almost a decade long look at how people are living their lives after loss. i'll talk with the director behind this fascinating
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same speech today. not before congress. you see the packed crowd here. these are folks in richmond, virginia. the president is out selling the jobs plan he unveiled last night on capitol hill. take a listen. >> now not the time for people in washington to be worrying about their jobs. it's time for them to be worrying about your jobs. now is the time to put americans back to work. now is the time to act. we are not a people that just look and watch and wait to see what happens. we're america. we make things happen. >> so how is this plan supposed to work. for that, we'll go to rick knew man, u.s. news and world report. rick, good to see you. stand by for you. everyone likes it when they talk about cutting taxes. let's listen one more time to the president. >> passing this bill will give a typical working family a $1500 tax cut next year.
[ applause ] so this boosts the thousand dollars tax cut the democrats and republicans already passed for this year. >> so, rick, we heard him mention the $15 hn. what does that mean? tax cut last year, tax cut this year. he wants to cut our taxes again? >> this would basically be the amount the government withholds from your paycheck. it applies to virtually all taxpayers the way i understand it. we've been getting these tax cuts really for two years now. there was a tax cut part of the 2009 stimulus. part of the reason president obama doesn't get cred itd for tax cuts is number one, the stimulus plan included so many other things. it kind of got lost. also, this is a few dollars that basically would be taken out of your paycheck otherwise if tax rates were where they were in 2008, let's say. but isn't taken out. if this were to pass congress, it means a little bit less would get taken out of everybody's
paycheck and you'd have a little bit more spending money. it's not necessarily so much that you notice and you certainly wouldn't be rushing out to berg dor of to splurge on a new outfit. it is real money that will certainly help some people out. >> perhaps people who aren't heading to that store, every little bit counts right now. we know that. >> i suppose. >> also, the president says we have workers who need work. what is it 14 million americans unemployed right now. an infrastructure also that needs rebuilding. you know, you put two and two together here, here he is again, the president. >> you've got aging -- you've got aging bridges on i-95. need to replace them. you've got schools like nigel's that need to be upgraded. there are millions of unemployed construction workers across america ready to put on their tool belt and get dirty. >> so is he talking economics
there? would that work? >> i think that is economics. you won't hear president obama say that. that's not a popular word in washington these days. he is at least looking where the problem is. of the 14 million unemployed americans, we've lost about two million construction jobs since the recession began at the end of 007. no industry has been hurt as bad by job losses as construction. the obvious reasons is the housing bust and things like that. he's looking where the action is. he also wants to save some teacher jobs, put more teachers back to work again. there have been a lot of jobs in local education that have been lost since the recession. i think this is going to be the hardest sell in congress, though. because this is similar to what washington did with the 2009 stimulus. this is the kind of spending that the republicans say is just not very effective. >> okay. so teachers and construction workers don't want to hear you say that. but you mention the housing bust. there are millions of homeowners
sitting on homes that are pretty much underwater. it's awful for them. bad for the economy. the president said x look, we have record low interest rates. let's let the folks refinance. how would that work, rick? >> he didn't spell this out. this is not exactly part of his jobs program. but this could be something that comes later. this is complicated and it's somewhat controversial because a lot of people feel, well a lot of people underwater on the homes should not have bought the homes in the first place. he couldn't afford a home or they bought more home than they should have and did not make a good financial decision. why should the government bail them out. however, there is growing support for a plan that would at least allow people like that to refinance their mortgages so that they could take advantage of low interest rates which are close to 4%. a lot of people who are underwater, they're still paying mortgages at 6% sp rates or much higher than that. they can't refinance because no bank will give them a loan. the idea is that the government might somehow guarantee refinance loans for these people
so that if there are losses on the loans or defaults, the government will bear the burden. they wouldn't necessarily be defaults, but nobody is really sure. this is a complicated program that would probably involve fannie and freddie. it's going to take some work to get a proposal together on that. >> ultimately, the question is, mr. newman, will congress meet the president with all of this? >> for a homeowner bailout plan, it's not clear that congress would have to approve that. they would only have to approve it if there needed to be new monday a appropriated for it. some people say you could do this program without costing the government up front money. that could happen. as for the other parts, i think that president obama made republicans an offer they can't refuse with the tax cuts. out of $450 billion in new ideas, about $250 billion of those are tax cuts. those probably have a pretty good chance of getting through congress. the other $200 billion is the spending for infrastructure, construction jobs and soap forth which we might need but that's
going to be a hard sell capitol hill. >> rick newman, we love you explaining some of this stuff to us. we appreciate it. come back any time. >> glad to do it. thank you. take a listen to this. >> the apartment has become affectionately known as the sanctuary. >> a firefighter loses his best friend. a high school student loses his mom, a woman lost her fiancee and a construction worker lost his brother. a film crew followed each of the individuals since the 9/11 attacks. this documentary is emotional, inspiring. up next, i'll speak with the director of "rebirth." jim whittaker is behind cinderella man. he'll tell us about this film. >> i have to remind myself. -- have i got a surprise for you! [ barks ]
want to share a 9/11 documentary that does not look at the terror group that launched the attack nor does it simply focus on the horror of that day. it's called rebirth. this documentary follows five people over the course of multiple years since the attacks who lost loved ones or were injured in the attacks. it is an intimate look at how they fight the demons of their own grief and transcend the tragedy. here's one clip. it's called "rebirth." adelle miles an hour owe a bad. >> benjamin keith carr. eugene carr. gregory allen clark. kevin francis berry. james d clear. >> i can never question the fact that i love this man. that he loved me. but as time goes by and all this
stuff, i wouldn't have to go into this to remind myself. you know, the person that you -- i was supposed to spend of rest of my life with. i don't want to feel like he's that distant that i have to remind myself about where we were with each other. then i'm caught between having to move on because i'm still only 34. but i don't want to. ♪
♪ pretty much i closed my apartment in miami and i started going every month. the apartment has become affectionately known as the sanctuary. and my cell phone is listed under sanctuary. on my key chains, it's sanctuary. >> what a film, jim whitaker. the director of rebirth. i watched it last night. i wish someone had given me the heads up, i need kleenex. in an ins prague al way.
we met tanya who lost her fiancee, one of five people you chronicle in this doc. can you begin with ton i can't and run down the five individuals we meet in your film. >> sure. tanya lost her fiancee and her story is really about letting go and the possibility of love and actually coming to a place where she can actually fall in love and have a family. ling was on the impact floor. ling young and she sustained burns over about a third of her body. hers is kind of a struggle of the physical loss that happened. and then what's great about her, is the sort of spirit within her that emerges where she realizes, you know, i can look at life in a different way and become a different person. next a young boy, he was 15 at the time and through the course of the film, we watch him grow up. he becomes a man.
brian lions is a construction worker. he goes down to the site in order to find his brother who he lost and basically stays there. ends up rebuilding the freedom tower and still remains there today. tim is a firefighter. tim unfortunately, sustained the loss of 93 friends. he really ends up having to deal through the course of the film with survivors guilt. the challenge of that loss and how to overcome it. the thing about this story and what was amazing is that they all find a way to come to a more hopeful healing place, even though it's very hard for them in the beginning. >> that's perhaps the title of rebirth. what really struck me is when nick said toward the end, everyone heals in a completely different way. you followed these people through the years, interviewing them, having covered tragedies myself, it's almost cathartic for them to talk to you. is that what you found through
the years? >> it was interesting. you know, they were very courageous and emotionally open. they really, really gave of themselves. but after the first couple of years, you know, in a way that's natural, people stopped asking them about the day and where they were and so what ended up happening is they had a place to come every year. i was interviewing them every year, once a year for roughly three to five hours at a time. it was a time and a moment that could come and really reflect on what had happened the past year and really think about where they were headed. so for them, i think, tanya uses the word sanctuary. i think it was a place they could come to in order to have someone listen to where they were, which is primarily what i did. i just listened. >> you listened. unlike so many stories about 9/11/01 what happened that day.
you never show the planes, the smoke or the collapse. it's just black. you lay down the audio. why did you do that? >> well, i didn't know that people necessarily needed to see those images again. i also just felt the film was always about the day after. it was about the possibility of what could come after. then, you know, personally a goal for me was to create as much intimacy between the audience and the viewer. i felt like actually people's experience of that day was their own. kind of as such, as a result, i felt they should be able to allow their own experience to come into the film and allow themselves to kind of fall into it and be a part of it from their own perspective. >> the time lapse video in the film is amazing. 15 different cameras, briefly, 15 different cameras through the years showing sort of the rebuilding of that site.
>> yeah. i had -- one of my closest friends is the director of photography, from the very beginning when i had the idea, what tom and i would talk about is that we were recording history. that we were trying to do is get the best possible image we could. we decided to shoot it in 35 millimeter. it's motion picture cameras set up to take pictures every five minutes 24 hours a day. the cameras are still running. they'll run until 2015 probably with the notion that we can take that film literally and take to the library of congress. it will be a record for our country of the evolution of the site over time. >> jim whitaker thank you for sharing those people's stories. it's tearful but in an inspirational way. thank you very much. if you're interested, they're on twitter at rebirth project. also tune in for cnn's live coverage of the 9/11 memorial ceremonies in new york, in
washington and pennsylvania. our special programming begins at 8:00 a.m. sunday morning. coming up next, the flooding across the northeast is being called near historic. we'll take you there. also, this. he wasn't even two. all the symptoms and signs and things to look for that they were explaining about jason, i just kept seeing in justin. >> a family hears the news, your son won't live long enough to see high school. as they deal with the hurt here, they're also taking action. dr. sanjay gupta explains, next. s with pictures from an online search. it's okay. the internet will be just fine without you. that's why we built the first search engine for the real world -- the dodge journey. and then we left three somewhere out there.
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it is news that any parent dreads. your child may not be living long enough to make it to high school. our dr. sanjay gupta introduces us to a brave family in this week's human factor. >> the proud parents of three beautiful children. people would say they're living the good life. they were until the beginning of this year when things started to crumble. it began with reports from school. >> said something not quite right with jason. >> they took their four-year-old to hackinsack university medical center. the diagnosis was devastating. he has mps 2. there is no cure. jason will probably be gone by the age of 15 years old. >> nps 2 known as hunter's syndrome. it's a rare inherited disease. facial changes, respiratory problems and eventually brain failure.
those who are diagnosed with it usually don't live long enough to graduate from high school. since it's genetic, they feared the worst for their younger son, two-year-old justin. >> my thoughts kept going to justin. he wasn't even two. all of the symptoms and signs and things to look for that they were explaining about jason, i kept seeing it in justin. >> justin was also diagnosed with a fatal disease. the lieders face it head on. they were not about to let it change their family life. they dpan a routine. taking the boys to weekly hospital visits to get muscle juice. a concoction of medicines that helped them fight off the side effects. they try do their best in making their children's lives as normal as possible. it's not easy. they have decided another way to overcome their setbacks is to give to others. they created an organization known as let them be little times two.
designed to raise awareness about hunter's syndrome and to help provide financial resources to families who may be faced with the diagnosis. >> that's what i live for is for trying to create some type of awareness and cure with the help of doctors for mps diseases. >> dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> sanjay, thank you. now, frightening predictions are holding true. flooding along the pennsylvania/new york line known as the southern tier is now being called near historic. take a look at wilkes-barre, pennsylvania. as bad as it is there, the susquehanna river won't flood downstream in the capital until later today. the rising water, flooded homes and businesses forced just about 70,000 people to head to higher ground. according to the national weather service, it crested at nearly 39 feet at wilkes-barre i. that's about 17 feet above flood stage. up stream a -- thousands more
had to evacuate. this is what they're up against. >> is that a house? oh, my god, get off the bridge seriously. that's metal. >> oh, no. oh, my god. oh, my god. that was a house. >> unreal. unreal. now this. final salute. and you do that enough times, it wears on you. it does. because you know that that could have been me, it could have been one of these guys. >> four soldiers who were at the pentagon back on 9/11 talk candidly about that day, including how they identified bodies from the rubble. suzanne malveaux sat down with these guys in afghanistan for emotional moments. please don't miss this. ♪
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the u.s. suzanne malveaux is in afghanistan. she sat down with four u.s. troops fighting there in the afghan war zone and they told her they will never forget where they were on september 11, 2001. >> thomas carter was in room 4d, 131 of the pentagon when it was hit. >> i heard a loud sonic boom. after that, it was like an earthquake had hit the pentagon. that massive made the building shook. it was a feeling of surprise and shock and then anger. >> colonel todd key was also inside the pentagon on the other side. he had just gotten off the phone with his wife. >> i swear, i thought she was dead. i just had that feeling that she was dead. >> he realized she was alive when he reunited with her after escaping the burning building. >> i realize, too, that everyone that died in the pentagon has a family. and it made it real to me that
that's -- that was a -- it was different at that moment. it was different. >> colonel david kumar was thinking about his five and two-year-old children when he began carrying out the today lirs at the pentagon daycare. >> what was painful was the thoughts that went through my head that perhaps some of those children's parents had perished. >> for captain jason grayson, the pain of 9/11 was different. he had to leave his pregnant wife to identify the pentagon bodies. >> i was the one who was taking all the x-rays on the victims and trying to match dental records. to be honest, the toughest part was at the end of the day, they would take the victims ready to be transported back to the families. >> it's okay. take your time.
>> it's okay. take your time. it's okay. it's okay. >> take a minute. >> take your time. it's okay. you want to join him, that's okay. that's okay. >> the nurses would come, the military escorts, we would all line up and give them the final salute. and you do that enough times, it wears on you. because you know that that could have been me, that could have been one of these guys and they all had families. and that was the worst part. that was the worst part. >> suzanne malveaux in afghanistan. back here at home an $800 fine for a record keeping violation? you have heard that small business owners complain about
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regulations are strangling them. those are the ones who create most of the jobs in america. here is casey wian on the red tape choking an industry. >> as city body and frame in riverside, california opens for business, owner don feeley doesn't know about the surprise visitors who will arrive later in the day. for now, he's focused on moving a worker to help out here. >> business today, collision repair or otherwise, there are always constantly running around because you're just lack of resources. in '07 we were on the peak and we ended up, we had 60 employees. now we're down to 28 employees. >> the economy is the main
reason. feeley says constantly expanding federal, state and local regulations also are choking his business. >> you never want anyone to think that you're not trying to be compliant. you're not trying to meet the needs of clean air or clean water, because you are. >> right. >> but a lot of those, did you dot the i's and cross the t's stuff. >> on top of the regulating any small business, collision repair shops because they deal with hazardous materials are expected and permitted by an alphabet soup of government bur okay rah sis. >> we see a lot more of those people than we have. >> there's no continue -- >> the irony is that his family owned company has been in business for 37 years. he says it's never been safer or cleaner than today. >> we have the latest in paint equipment right here. we have the new spray booths which basically to install these, they're about $250,000. >> those booths use water-based paint. not the more toxic
petroleum-based variety to comply with california clean air standards. hazardous substances are a bare minimum. he says he spends 35% of his time trying to satisfy regulators. >> when the regulations are more important than the creation of jobs, we find ourselves in an economic situation where there's not enough tax revenue coming in to pay the bills because there aren't enough people working. >> feeley is still upset over a dispute that began last year with local air quality regulators that ended up in an $800 fine for record keeping violations. that agency says the regulations do more good than harm. >> the health impact associated with air pollution was estimated at over $20 billion a year. in terms of the potential costs of control to achieve federal clean air standards, that was estimated at about $4 billion a year. >> back to the unexpected visitors. about three hours after we
showed up, riverside fire department inspectors arrived at his shop. the result? another stack of paperwork to fill out. a new hazardous material fee and the possibility that he may have to pay for electronic monitoring of his fire sprinkler system. >> house speaker john boehner recently wrote a letter to president obama complaining about nearly 200 newly proposed regulations on business. he said the house is considering legislation that would require congressional approval of any new regulation that is have a significant impact on jobs. casey wian, cnn, riverside, california. casey, thank you. still ahead, the lights suddenly go out for millions of people. but did it all happen because somebody goofed? that is ahead. also, okay, so we've all seen planking, but there's a new internet craze. this one is more bizarre. i hadn't heard about this. maybe you're more hip. it's called batmaning? you'll hear what is behind this oddity. we're back in 70 seconds.
>> joining me this hour, stacy francis, a certified financial planner and president of francis financial. thank you for being here, ladies. this comes from martin in philadelphia, martin has a number of different debts. he's gt credit card debt, mortgage debt, car loan, et cetera. he says it's getting harder and harder for him to make ends meet and he's asking if bankruptcy is an option. >> i think a lot of people are struggling with debt of all form. but frankly, bankruptcy isn't
some magic bullet. with the mortgage, bankruptcy won't make that go away. a chapter 13 can help you save the house, but a chapter 7 will do absolutely nothing for it. so do think twice before you do something as drastic as bankruptcy. >> i think people saw companies go through bankruptcy and re-emerge and they think i can do that, too. but it's very, very different. joe writes he's about to leave his job and work on his masters. ehe's got about $18,000 in his mention and 401(k). what should he do with that money? should he combine it into a single ira or keep it separate. >> it's going to depend on what kind of contributions it's been. if it's pretax, it's okay to put them together in the same i.r.a. however, if that has post tax contribution, he wants to keep track of that. that will be a reduced tax when
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compared to the one we had in virginia, which was a whole magnitude smaller, 5 something, is that this one is fairly deep. about 50 miles deep. that means there's 50 mile offense padding. or the shaking is 50 miles away even from the surface. if it was 100 miles away from vancouver, that makes it 150 miles. there was shaking. so so far no reports of any damage. we'll keep you advised. no reports of tsunami issues with this whatsoever. but of course, we'll keep you up to date. >> back to the future fan? are you a fan chad? i wanted a hover board. remember the shoes that michael j. fox wore in the sequel? you need a reminder, here you go. the shoe is back, as in back to the future. here's why.
>> this shoe over time seemed to develop a cult following. >> there's been so much of a demand, nike is creating this limited edition shoe. michael j. fox, marty mcfly wore in the '89 time traveling hit movie. here's how you get them. nike released 1500 pair of these bad boys. nike mag sneaker. it's on ebay. be prepared to shell out thousands if you want to roll like marty mcfly did. but the money sent goes to a wonderful cause. all the proceeds from the shale zeals will go to the michael j. fox foundation for parkinson's research. look at that wall of shoes. unfortunately, nike hasn't figured out how to make the shoes tie themselves or create the hover board. okay, another movie legend is trending sort of. it's batman or rather. it's become a ver b, to batman
or batmanning. it's kind of like planking. watch. ♪ batman ♪ batman, batman, batman ♪ batman >> i guess horizontal wasn't good enough so they had to do this vertically, you must have crazy ankle strength to do that. don't fall. ouch. >> let's move along, shall we? talk politics. wolf blitzer is in tampa for the latest news off the political ticker and you're in tampa because? >> because this is where i'm going to be moderating the cnn tea party debate monday night. it's going to be right here on cnn obviously. it's going to be eight republican candidates.
you know, i just blogged about this on my blog page at cnn.com/situationroom. if you take a look at the various debates and i moderated them over the years. i moderated five presidential debates four years ago, democratic and republican debates, it's more difficult to moderate a debate with eight candidates up on the stage than only two candidates. i did the final debate between hillary clinton and barack obama in the kodiak theatre four years ago. from my perspective, it was a little bit easier to moderate that kind of debate. when you have eight, you try to give everybody equal time. you want to make slur everyone gets a chance to make his or her, in the case of michele bachmann, their respective case. so it's a little bit more difficult, a little more tricky from the perspective of the moderator. having said all that, it's an historic moment. one of these eight almost certainly, unless somebody else jumps into the race at the last minute, sarah palin, even though it's getting late, she may have
already missed her moment by delaying for so long. one of these eight is going to be the next republican nominee. and potentially maybe even the next president of the united states. so it's an enormous responsibility to ask important, tough, serious, substantive questions and give the voters out there, whether the republican voters in caucuses or primaries, give them a chance to size up the eight candidates. and then give the general electorate a chance to size up whoever is going to be the republican nominee against the incumbent president of the united states, barack obama. so i take these debates very seriously. i think they're historic and important and i'm looking forward to the debate monday night. you probably want to ask me, brooke, if it's monday night, why are you here today? >> because you're getting a jump on it. i know you. i know how you work. subpoena that right? >> that's part of the answer, but the real answer is you have no idea, some day you will, brooke, but right now, you have no idea how much work goes into doing a debate like this.
the preparation, not just for me, but -- >> our whole crew. >> it's a technological difficulty, let's put it that way. so they need me here to go through this. but also, we're going through questions, going through all of their position papers, saul of their speeches, their records on all the important issues. i have to be knowledgeable about that. so it takes a lot of work. sop is that's why i'm here in tampa today, tomorrow getting ready for the debate. >> doing your homework. on the beach. >> a lot of it. thank you so much. we will be watching. thank you so much, sir. now top of the hour. watch this. it's a terror country strong enough to warn a country already on threat. it's serious enough that the country isn't taking any chances. millions going about their day
when suddenly blackout. >> it was so damn hot. . >> did the power go out because somebody goofed? >> the president of the united states! >> jobs night in congress. conservatives, liberals, loopholes and the ladies? >> cutest one in the row by far. >> we go behind the scenes for moments you couldn't see on tv. plus, a dad is suing facebook after his 12-year-old daughter posted racy pictures of herself for all the world to see. sunny hostin is on the case. >> we've been hit. >> pentagon correspondent barbara starr retraces her steps on 9/11 and shows us the exact spot of impact.
take a look at this, less than 24 hour since a warning based upon intelligence that only began emerging wednesday, so it's very fresh authorities scrambling to piece this together. police stopping trucks. all kinds of vehicles. particularly, though, they're stopping vans and trucks. our new information is coming from intelligence sources. here's the key. they say their source of information is a communications intercept involving a known al qaeda operative in pakistan. and this known operative is said to have discussed a vehicle bomb attack on the anniversary of 9/11.
and alan, tell me, specifically -- >> coming up, stand by. >> tell me specifically where you are, what we're seeing. >> brooke, we're at 60th and columbus avenue, beginning of the upper west side. and you've got checkpoints like this all over manhattan, downtown, not far from ground zero. midtown, especially near times square and further up town as well. here, there are two more further up town. and have a look at what the officers are doing. they're bushing traffic into just one lane over here, and there are very carefully watching the cars, pulling over any vehicles that they believe might be suspicious, in particular trucks and vans. they want to make sure that there are no bombs. they are also wearing on their bodies, they are wearing radiation detectors. you can see the box over there. it's a little bigger than this. it will vibrate if there is any
radiation coming out of these vehicles. fortunately, that has not been the case. just so you know, they're also checking for dirty bombs. have a look at what this has done to traffic in manhattan. it is way backed up. miles. i spoke to a truck driver earlier. he told me he had essentially driving at two miles an hour. took him an hour and a half to go about 60 blocks. that's about three miles. and cross town as well, you can see the traffic over there. just a mess all over the place. brooke, they are conducting these checks. they are also checking through parking garages in manhattan, looking for bombs. and they are also searching in the subways as well, checking all the bags. >> does this last through the weekend? >> indeed. the police say they continue to continue this sort of intensive watch over new york city through
9/11 going all the way into monday. and at that point, they'll reassess to decide if they need to continue this sort of police presence. but for the next few days, you can expect a very, very intense police presence here in manhattan. >> alan, thank you. we want to stay in new york and bring in a former nypd detective. something we talked about in our morning meeting, the new york police department are getting pretty good at being individual jept, looking out, being prepared. if you're in new york this weekend, shouldn't you feel pretty secure? >> you know, you should feel pretty secure, brooke, and go about your business as you would any other day. the nypd is out there, they're doing a great job. ten years ago, we didn't even have a homeland security director. they've been preparing for this date for a long time. it was expected, it was anticipated that something like this might happen. the nypd and other agencies involved are doing an amazing
job. with in effect right now as we speak. >> steve, what potential landmarks in new york city are getting top priority? i mean, what do they believe are the top terrorist targets, also soft targets as well. >> we're looking a the financial district, times square. i notice even at columbus circle outside of triem warner there's increased police presence. they're looking at the bridge, the subways. they're going to be checking just about every struck and any suspicious vehicle that goes through those areas, coming down the west side highway. i've never seen the g.w. bridge as backed up as it is. and it reaches far beyond into the tri-state area. you have west chester county, nassau county and the state of new jersey intercepting, checking for vehicles, doing their due diligence in their respective jurisdictions for
their soft targets. >> what about the fact that the president will be at all locations on sunday, all states, i should say, but on ground zero, given this potential plot, this threat. will they be adding new security on top of what happens already planned? >> i think you're going to see a security presence like you've never seen before. the president there with all the dignitaries. two former presidents as well. so new york city is going to be crawling with law enforcement and intelligence people. some you'll see, some you won't. the hercules team is already at some of the landmarks that we've talked about. that's the team -- they look like s.w.a.t. or army officers. there's going to be an army presence on 9/11. it's going to be in hand and god willing all will go well. i have full faith in the nypd, fbi and all the other agencies working here. thank you so much for that. and now this. let's begin "rapid fire." president obama on the road talking jobs. this morning he spoke at the university of richmond in
virginia. he is out and about now, prom e promoti promoting, selling that jobs plan he outlined to congress last night. here's what the president said today. >> everything in the american jobs act, everything in there is the kind of proposal that's been supported in the past by both democrats and republicans. nothing radical in this bill. with. >> the president in richmond. hammers, poles, strucks were used by protesters to demolish this wall built around the israeli embassy in cairo, egypt. an israeli official says no one tried to break into the building. many egyptians have called for an end to diplomatic relations with israel. protesters also converged in tahrir square to demand more reforms. this is a serious case of road rage here. this is rhode island. the first car there being driven
by an elderly man. the second car follows the elderly man into the parking lot and let's watch what happens next. drive number two punches the elderly man's side mirror, there he goes. with rips it off, police are now looking for this man. they say he had no idea it was all caught on camera. "the new york times" is reporting the private medical records of 20,000 stanford hospital emergency room patients were posted online for near lay year. that includes names, diagnoses, billing details. after the breach was discovered, the spreadsheet was removed. and just in here, take a look at the numbers on wall street. they are beginning to settle and it is a very, very down day. 303 points there on the dow. coming up, we will go live to the stock exchange. also cnn speaks with secretary
of state hillary clinton rudy giuliani. both have interesting answers when asked if they're considering presidential runs. that is ahead. also up next from california to mexico, what happens that included you yesterday. millions of people suddenly out of power. no lights, novemb air condition. did a human error cause this plak ma massive blackout? a woman trapped in an elevator for nearly three hours. ♪
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arizona after a massive blackout in the area yesterday. take a look at what san diego looked like as the sun went down. no electricity for miles. people out on the streets wondering what went wrong. even reactors at the plant went in shutdown mode. they said it was caused by an employee-generated event. it happened while equipment was being replaced. the blookout backed up the highway for miles, trains, buses. and passengers were stranded when passengers couldn't leave the san diego airport. lisa gehring is on the phone with me. you were trapped in a elevator? how long exactly? did you panic? >> well, it was about 2 1/2 hours approximately. and actually, i wasn't too
panicked, but i was a little concerned at first because i was hearing a lot of sirens outside. and i couldn't get any cell service inside the elevator. >> when did you realize there was a power outage and not something more nefarious? >> i was on my way back to my office for a meeting. i tried to call my supervisor to let him know i was stuck. and after a while, i managed to get a couple of texts back from him saying well, don't come to work there's a massive power outage. but i still didn't know, you know, really what the full situation was at that point. >> did the fact that we are now days away from the techbt anniversary of 9/11 factor into your mindset as you're sitting and trapped in an elevator? >> well, it did cross my mind, yeah. especially the garage where i
was trapped is right across the straet from our downtown fire station. hearing all kinds of sirens going on thinking man, all these sirens, huge blackout. you know, you just never know. so it crossed my mind, but i just didn't have any information on whether or not to be really concerned or not. >> so many people were stuck. i was texting with a girlfriend who was just sitting on the 5 yesterday. are you all just swapping stories at work on where you were and how long you were out of power? >> a little bit, yeah. my co-worker was saying oh, that was you? >> that was you bang on the elevator for 2 1/2 hours, yes, it was. i do know that officials are telling people to boil their drinking water and don't go swimming in the ocean because there's been this sewage like. are people aware of that? are they listening as we go into the weekend? >> i believe so. there has been, you know, word getting out in, i think, some
areas of the city. buttive but i think for the general population it doesn't seem to be much of a problem at this point. >> lisa, i'm glad you're out of that elevator and able to use your phone and call me. have a nice weekend. thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead, floodwaters continue rising across the northeast. there are concerns in one state about the levees and whether they will be able to hold back all of thf water. also a bizarre incident on a city bus is sparking an investigation. wait until you see what the driver does to a passenger trying to get on. of medicare experience, unitedhealthcare medicare solutions can help. just give us a call. the annual enrollment period to switch your medicare coverage is earlier this year, from october 15th to december 7th, so now is a great time to review your situation. i'm looking for help paying for my prescriptions. [ male announcer ] that's a part d prescription drug plan. choose a stand-alone plan, or combine it
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metro officials are looking for answers after after bus driver physically tossed a passenger off the bus. you can see the driver on the left hand side is kind of wrestling with the passenger who has his left hand on the pole. he doesn't want to leave. the driver slams the passenger and begins to push him to the ground. you can hear a thud when he hits the door. several dead, thousands flooded out of their own homes. the remnants of tropical storm lee left much of the northeast pennsylvania area looking like this. this is the sesquahannah river.
we have the latest on the floodinging. . >> reporter: this is the worst flooding this area has seen in four decades. we're about 100 yards from the river. this is one of the hardest hit areas in the lucerne county. it's ordered the evacuations of 70,000 people. it's maes itted half of the town's residents have been affected by floodwaters. even though the river is reseeding, people are not going to be allowed back into their homes anytime soon. that's because the river is still way above flood stage. that's one of the concerns is that officials may go back into their homes too soon. while the river has yet to crest here, including harrisburg, the state's capital. mary snow, cnn west misson, pennsylvania. >> thank you. we're told it's the same story in upstate new york. governor cuomo looking at the damage there from the err air.
for one woman, the flood probably ruined any chance of getting out for good. >> i had just got it together. we were supposed to have an open house sunday and now this has happened. we're just happy someone was going to come get us. >> the presidential debate in which the tea party movement will be asking questions. you'll see it right here. coming up next, a preview live from tampa. don't miss this. asked him if he had a secret and the old man stopped and thought and said: free 'cause that's how it ought to be my brother credit 'cause you'll need a loan for one thing or another score 'cause they break it down to one simple number that you can use dot to take a break because the name is kinda long com in honor of the internet that it's on put it all together at the end of the song it gives you freecreditscore-dot-com,
this is a huge deal for us. >> it is. it's a big deal. it's the first time there's been a tea party debate, a debate completely devoted to the tea party. we have the honor here of actually hosting the debate. it's going to be none other than our very own wolf blitzer who's going to do it. we're excited about that and it's going to be interesting to see because the other debates really appeal to the republican, the gop field, the republicans in general. this one is going to appeal strictly to the tea party to viewers and voters at large. but this one is directed to the tea party. we're going to see how we're going to do that. there was a debate wednesday night. social security among other things. really played a big role in that, the first time we saw rick perry on a national stage. i want to bring, you saw paul steinhauser sitting next to me. brooke, you can jump in here if you feel like it. i think it's interesting like i said, the first tea party debate, and there's a certain
appeal, certain things you have to do in order to appeal to tea party voters. >> no doubt about it. >> listen, tea party, this movement about 2 1/2 years now. there were so influential last year in the republican primaries and the general election, midterm elections. they will be just as influential this time around for in the battle for the republican nomination. that's run of the reasons why we're doing this kind of debate and teaming up with the tea party organization to put this on. today, you spoke to a couple of the low tea party groups in tampa. what do they want to hear? >> how spending is going to be lowered. they want to hear about jobs. it's always jobs, jobs, jobs . that's the big thing. but there's really no compromise when it comes to at least the tea party members that i spoke to. they say if in's any more spending added, any more taxes they're not going along with that. they're very proud of what the freshmen tea party members did. they glad they stood by their
guns. >> this will be the second debate for these eight candidates in, what, three weeks? i mean, who is looking strongest as we go into monday? >> well, you know, it's funny. this debate is coming five days after the first clash wednesday night in california between mick romney and rick perry. a lot of people were saying well, rick perry doesn't have a lot of experience debating. he hasn't done much in his years in texas. but i think the general consensus was he gave as good as he got. some of the comments he made, social security being a ponzi scheme, also on global warming, some of those things could come up again, not only from wolf blitzer, but the other candidates. it wasn't just a two-person debate. it's going to be the other candidates as well. >> and the issues the februa s f the tea party, the demographics
have been quite frankly older, white men. men over 45. here in tampa, at least, women have a very strong voice in the tea party, women's voices are becoming stronger. and they're becoming a larger number. quite frankly, they said they want to hear from all the candidates. they also want to see if michele bachmann is going to become viable again, if she's going to go back to number one as she was in the iowa straw poll, instead of as the polls have been showing she's number three and sometimes number four. >> there was so much talk about her. and then now became perry and romney. we'll have to see if anyone else begins to percolate to the top on monday. gentlemen, my thanks to you. enjoy tampa. and again, let's just remientd everyone, we are hosting cnn tea party members co-hosting monday's republican debate. it will be the site of the 2012 national convention. keep that in mine, too. the republican debate monday night, 8:00 eastern. and as we mentioned, our own wolf blitzer will be moderating that one. coming up next, our pentagon
correspondent barbara starr will forever remember her birthday. it was her birthday in 2001. >> there was a pentagon policeman coming from that direction, running down this hallway yelling get out, get out. everybody get out. we've been hit. >> barbara will share her 9/11 memories there from the pentagon .apentago pentagon. and the foreshadowing call placed from flight 93 that crashed in this field in pennsylvania. >> my husband was taking a routine business trip to california and our new baby was just 11 weeks old. so i went'7" to my parents' house to get help with the baby. i sat down to nurse the baby and i turned on the television and i saw a plane hit the world trade center. jeremy had actually called before his plane took off, as he always did. and he had talked to my dad and everything was, you know,
routine. and about, i guess, 9:27, 9:28 the phone rang and i was in the kitchen and my parents were in the living room, which is down a long hallway and i heard my mother say thank god it's you jeremy, we've been so worried. i ran into the room, all the color went from her face and she handed me the phone. sorry. and he was on the phone and he had told me that his plane had been hijacked. at the same time he's telling me this, i see everything unfolding oen a big screen television. and he said his plane had been hijacked by three men. he thought they were iranian looking. they were wearing head head ban sd red head bands. first we went into a panic. then we started saying i love
closed just about half an hour ago. you saw them there, both secretary of state hillary clinton and former mayor rudy giuliani, ringing that opening bell, and they also met with alison kosick. what did they say about being mentioned as possible candidates for president? >> well, here's what's funny. when i asked each of them, there was clearly no delay in their answers. they had very divergent answers. giuliani says he's wait taking a wait and see approach. hillary clinton said a strong no. listen to this. >> i'm waiting to see who emerges. i realize how difficult it would be for me for me to be nominated. i'm waiting to see if there's a good candidate out there. if i find that candidate, then. >> a lot of great things about being secretary of state, i am
ute of politics, i am not interested in being drawn back into it by anybody. i have a big job to do and i'm happy to do it every day. >> not only does she not want to run for president, secretary clinton says she doesn't want to go back into politics at allship she says she's focused on making sure she makes sure we continue our position in the world. >> on the terrorist thread, what was secretary clinton's response? >> she said the threat is unconfirmed but they're taking it seriously. government officials learned a lot when they went through all of the information gathered from the raid. they found al qaeda, still determined to attack around these anniversary dates. but she praised northwestername. >> the reason america and this great city has shown such resill
je yens because we refuse to be intimidated. that doesn't mean we're stupid. we're going to keep our eyes open, to be vigilant. the reason we went public is to go on with your lives, but let us know if you see something suspicious. >> and the instance that she's talking about shows that anybody can help. you know, it's really a mantra, brooke, that new yorkers know very well. if you see something, say something. it's clearly worked. >> i remember that, it was a hot dog venn sdor, if i remember correctly. be vigilant as mayor blook berg say, but go about your business. thank you very much. when american airlines flight 77 hit the pentagon, some ten years ago, cnn's barbara starr, she was inside the biltding. it was actually her birthday. and she was making plans to go out and make it a memorable one.
and suddenly it became a birthday she would never forget, but for totally different reasons. here's her story. >> you were either here that day or you weren't. for the people who work in the building today who were there ten years ago, i don't think you can ever forget i'm sitting here and i'm seeing the flames in front of me on this beautiful morning. 9/11 is my birthday. i woke up that morning, looked out the window, the weather was beautiful. i thought how little time can i spend at work? i'll put something on, go to dinner with friends and it will be a nice birthday. but then, new york. ten years ago, this was the area where the pentagon press corps was working. that morning we had been watching the attacks unfold in new york. i came out in this hallway and suddenly, there was a pentagon policeman coming from that
direction running down this hallway yelling, "get out, get out! everybody get out, we've been hit. get out." american airlines flight 77 slammed into the pentagon. by the time i made my way from my office down there to this part of the hallway, it was full of people. we could smell the smoke. hundreds of people come into this hallway, coming down the stairs from the upper floors, coming up the stairs from the basement. the doors has closed shut due to the security alert. so it took a few minutes for them to open it and for people to make their way out to safety. >> this entire side of the pentagon was a wall of flame and black smoke. i remember seeing people coming out of the wreckage where the plane had hit. some koocovered in blood, tryino make their way to safety. hundreds of workers gathered here. at one point before a large
number of police or fire personnel could even get here, they called for people who had any kind of emergency or medical training and hundreds of military people came moving back in towards the wreckage to help in any way that they could. that's what it was really all about here. on that day in this place, for the u.s. military. no retreat, no surrender. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. thank you. coming up next, did you hear what they're asking potential jurors in the conrad murray trial. we're learning why michael jackson's doctor never considered a plea deal. plus, a 12-year-old girl put racy pictures of herself on facebook. now her father is suing the company.
on the case today, two for you. fist, here's the situation. parents maybe you can relate. maybe not. a 12-year-old girl lies about her age, sets up an account on facebook, but then this girl posts some rather pro-vok tiff pictures of herself. whose fault is that? what i juk described happened in northern ireland. according to reports, the girl's father is flaming facebook and suing facebook. sunny hostin is on the case. sonny, okay. how do i tee this up to you because i already know what you're going to say. whose fault is this?
the parent for not watching the child's facebook? is it really the child or is it really facebook? >> this is no the facebook's issue. this is the parents' issue. parents have to parent. what's so interest dog me is it sounds like this guy has a runaway child and he's trying to get facebook to catch her for him. bottom line is facebook legally doesn't have to monitor in this way. he is asking in terms of this lawsuit, facebook, to take it down, to take her page down. and i think facebook should do that and be a good corporate citizen. again, she is under the age of a facebook poster. posters are supposed to be over the age of 12 certainly. so i think they can do that for this father because unfortunately he can't seem to control his child and he can't force her to be the image down. >> you have to be 13 or over to be on facebook. is there anything facebook can do about people who lie about their birthday? >> once they are alerting to the
fact that someone is underage online, having their own page, yes. facebook will then honor and will take the page down. i think facebook out of all the websites has been pretty proacti proactive. unfortunately this parent has this sort of out-of-control kid and facebook i think will likely help and take her page down. >> of. >> dr. conrad murray, the man charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of michael jackson said he never considered a plea deal. his lawyer says they're for guilty people. he said murray contends his client is not guilty. we know murray's defense team failed to convince the judge and an appeals court from reading and watching news reports about this trial. keeping them sequestered. did it work? how would that affect the trial? >> you know, it's so interesting. i really thought the judge came to the wrong conclusion here. i would imagine a case like this
would have a jury sequestered from the media from news reports. he decided that whatever jury he picks will have listen to his admonition to not watch television. but certainly, this judge by today has a pool to pick. interestingly enough, brooke, it's only been two days of jury selection. he has whittled down the jury, started out with about 187 potential jurors on thursday. whittled it down to about 72. he's finished as of today. these jurors are going to fill out a 30-page jury questionna e questionnaire. nay ear going to come back the third week in september and he thinks they are on schedule to start this trial september 27. so basically, interestingly enough, he said i'm not looking for anyone who hasn't heard about this case. i'm just looking for someone who can be fair. and it looks, brooke, like he may have found some. . >> that may be virtually impossible to find someone who reese never heard about it.
we'll follow it. thank you so much. and did you watch the president's address last night? we did a little digging. because we watched all of the moments caught on an open mike during last night's joint session of congress. those two gentlemen, they weren't always talking about jobs. wait until you see what we found. but first, because it's friday, we're going to take you behind the scenes in what we're calling the "week winddown." >> so we're going to the edit pool. we're going to the edit pool because that's where we have a piece in edit right now. one of our "music monday" pieces so i want to introduce you to the editor. >> what do you do? >> i basically have taken two clips that were shot with two cameras. >> for "music monday." >> and i'm basically switching it.
wolf blitzer coming to us live from tampa here. you mentioned you're down there in tampa, what a good three days ahead of time. doing your homework. you have to moderate this thing. we're talking about eight candidates. are you up for it? >> not easy, eight candidates in one debate. you've got to make sure everyone has a fair chance to express his or her opinion. michele bachmann is here, as you know. we're doing our homework. it's a lot of technical stuff that we have to go through, too. i'm not going to be sitting behind a desk just asking questions. i'm going to be standing there. i'm going to be going up to the candidates, asking specific follow-up questions. listening to what they have to say.
these candidates have to be at the top of their game right now to convince undecided voters they're the best person to lead the frun party against president barack obama. i think it will be good for our viewers, good for the coops, good for all of us. >> what do you have coming up in the next couple of minutes on "situation room." 3. >> we're focussing on the tenth anniversary of 9/11. we'll have coverage sunday morning. but we're looking at these latest threats. how real are they? is there a real danger to washington, d.c. or new york
city or someplace else? is it possible, brooke, that this might just be a diversion, a clever maneuver on the parts of potential al qaeda sympathizers or terrorists out there to try to get us. these people are sophisticated and we're watching all of this. >> we'll see it in a couple of minutes live from tampa, wolf. >> that debate, monday night, 8:00 eastern here on cnn. and jobs. jobs may have been the reason for last night's congressional get together, but it sure wasn't the only topic of conversation. coming up next, the candid moment that the mike and the camera were not supposed to catch. joe johns has been going through all of this. we're going to have a little fun with joe. ny choices. the guests come in and they're like yeah i want to try this shrimp and i want to try this kind and this kind. they wait for this all year long. [ male announcer ] it's endless shrimp today at red lobster.
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i cannot say the atmosphere was festive in there, but it was a little better than expected. the last few weeks were so nasty. this last night was at least polite. they were asked to be on good behavior by the speaker of the house and for the most part they were. there were even some funny moments where the president's speech elicited some snickering from the audience. >> right now, warren buffett pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. an outrage he asked us to fix. we need a tax code where everyone gets a fair shake. this isn't political grand standing. this isn't class warfare, this is simple math. >> of course, a lot of people would think it was political grand standing and a lot of people would think it's class warfare, too. so got some laughs out of that one. >> you mentioned the snickering. you were there. it was even described as disrespectful to the president. what was that about?
>> well, you know, i can see how somebody who could come to that conclusion, it wasn't what you would call outwardly contem contemptuo contemptuous, more like quietly cynical, maybe. a couple of places where the laughter was cynical. like when the president started talking about warren buffett, same sort of thing, you know? but the other thing, brooke, and the thing you were talking about at the break, this off-mike moment. and we always get these things when the president of the united states comes down to do a joint session of congress. the magic of the congressional camera and the microphone that's normally not there. and there was a little tiny conversation between the vice president of the united states and the speaker of the house. listen to this. >> oh. right there. cutest one in the room by far. >> did you catch that? >> cutest one in the room by
far. >> that's my wife. >> let's listen again, just because we can. >> my wife is up there. >> oh. cutest one in the room by far. >> you see the vice president laughing. she did look lovely, joe biden, in that beautiful red dress. >> absolutely. these guys can get along if they want to. though for the record, there were some members of congress who didn't get to this at all so you didn't get a feel for the comedy. i left a little earlier before the president finished his speech. jim demint was in the basement. i asked him if he watched the president's speech on tv. he said yes. i asked him why he didn't go in and listen to it in person. he said no comment. so there were some people who decided they just weren't going
to show up and for whatever reason don't want to characterize it. >> yeah. back to where you could see, the image of the vice president and the speaker of the house. of course, i was watching cnn and wolf. you could hear them back and forth and i was tweeting with people. they were talking about eagles and bogeys. i think they were talking golf and wolf. the uber gentlemen saying hang on, we shouldn't be listening to this. but a lot of the reaction i got from people in the twitter verse is hey, it is nice to hear them at least as friends or at least kind. >> right. and the thing a lot of people missed, too, is sometime on capitol hill, even if there's a lot of going back and forth about policy, a lot of these people actually get along. and joe biden has a very long history on capitol hill. so does the speaker of the house, john boehner. and for all we know, these guys do pretty well. you know, i think they're both golfers.