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been brainwashed. stand by for an interview with cane about racial politics in the 2012 campaign. and iranian warships like these could be in firing distancest united states. this hour, is tehran's new deployment plan a dangerous threat to america or just saber-rattling? welcome to our viewers in the united states and aren't world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm joe johns. you're in the situation room. >> another of the world's most wanted terrorists is dead and president obama is calling it a significant milestone in the war against al qaeda. there is no question that an war al alaki was a dangerous threat as the public face in the arabian peninsula and a terrorist recruiter. there are questions about the united states' role in targeting and killing an american citizen.
our pentagon xpont barbara star has more on the air strike that killed al-awlaki. >> reporter: this is important. this man posed a direct threat to the united states had inspired him by all accounts ordered attacks against the u.s. now this apparently is the result of a two-year effort between the u.s. intelligence community and the people to go after him to find him, target him and take him out. very controversial as he is an american born citizen. killed for his activities in another country. by all accounts, it was a drone strike that killed al-awlaki. there were three other persons in that convoy with him. they are believed also to have been killed. this is something that the u.s. long wanted. this is a target that they were making a great effort to go after inside yemen even as that
country remains in a good deal of political social and economic unrest. joe? >> barbara, if we know how much was yemen actually involved in this strike? and if we don't know that, typically what would be the role of another country? >> reporter: well, look, after the u.s. went into pakistan to get bin laden without telling the pakistani government, this becomes a very sensitive issue. the yemenis are talking about it. they were the first out to say publicly that he had been killed. the u.s. is making it clear as well as the yemenis it was in the words of one source a joint intelligence sharing operation. so there is a great effort at this point to say that the yemenis were involved. but let's be very clear. this is a highly sophisticated effort. it involves some of the u.s.'s most sophisticated drone technology and missile technology to be able to target
an individual, follow them as they go down a road in a convoy and be able to quickly call in that lethal firepower to get them before they move out of range. pretty problematic. one can only suspect for the yemenis to on their own carry out such a difficult operation. joe? >> quickly, he was an american. do we know on our own reporting if he was on the kill or capture list? >> reporter: this is one of the most sensitive issues in washington for many years now. by all accounts, as they say, sources have indicated that there was an order to kill or capture al-awlaki. this is something that has been discussed very -- in a very round about fashion. it does appear that there was some type of order to kill him or capture him. but, you know, i think you will
see that many human rights groups are going to raise the question of the legality of such an order and such an action. joe? >> barbara star at the pentagon, thanks so much for that. now let's bring in cnn senior international kmont nick robertson. nick, in terms of operations, what does this mean for al qaeda and the arabian peninsula? >> it certainly means psychological blow. al-awlaki was hugely influential in recruitment, if you will, his dvd sales, thousands upon thousands, his online sort of speeches also very popular will mean it will be harder for al qaeda and the arabian peninsula to get the same levels of money flowing to them, the funds that they need to continue with their operations. so it will hurt them in that way. although, he is -- or has played a role in recruitment, recruited the underpants bomber, tried to
bring down that airliner over detroit christmas 2009. he is not somebody that's at the forefront of the bomb building and the other exploits of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen. so it will have an impact. but it's unlikely don't the operations in the long term, joe. >> you say he recruited the underwear bomber. but the question is now about the man who created that bomb, the bomb maker, if you will. how dangerous is he and how important to u.s. and other authorities? >> the bomb maker who maze the underpants bomb in 2009 who made using the similar powerful explosives in 2010, the printer bombs, is still on the loose. and al qaeda now has operational control over three provinces in the country. and this gives the bomb maker a greater ability and space to make his bombs. he's made some very
sophisticated weapons. so he poses the real operational bomb making challenge to the united states. he is the man behind the two last principle attacks against the united states. so a lot of concern has to lie now with either capturing or killing him in the same way that -- in the same way that al-awlaki has been killed. al-awlaki is a big get. >> how much of a sense do we have between the relationship between al qaeda central and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula? >> they sing from the same sheet, if you will. they are against the huunited states, against europe. he said he didn't need a religious ruling to attack americans. it was do you think dwroi attack americans. so they have the same core ideology in that way.
but what yemen potentially gives al qaeda is a failing state which is what yemen is becoming in the same way that somalia is and the same way that al qaeda used the failed state of afghanistan to set up training camps. al qaeda potentially and no one is saying that they are doing this in a major way at the moment, but it gives them the potential to set up training camps in yemen where they can train more bomb makers and more people who can go out and perpetrate attacks in the west. so this is, i think this is where the sort of al qaeda and the arabian peninsula perhaps begins to sort of step up to the plate for al qaeda, if you will. al qaeda and pakistan, al qaeda in somalia or al qaeda in north africa. yemen is becoming a failing state. and that gives al qaeda a lot of potential and scope to exploit that. >> so if yemen really was
involved in all of this, it would seem that yemen was actually taking a move to save itself, if you will, or at least the man who rules the country. >> oh, absolutely. the president has just come back after three months recoup rating from an assassination attempt. he spent three months in saudi arabia. it's interesting that within a few days of arriving back al-awlaki has been targeted, intelligence leading to his targeting and his killing has come into the domain of the united states and the people who are flying the drone aircraft. and there's no doubt that the president looks to the united states to try and support him and his 30-year rule. there are so many demands for him to step down from students, from tribesmen and from opposition politicians, part of the army and major partners defected and trying to bring him down. and what president sali wants through support to try to crack down on al qaeda is to win
support of the united states -- is to win the support of the united states to back his regime at the moment, a regime that is pretty much on its knees. as he pulls troops back to the capital to secure the capital, that gives al qaeda a freer hand in the south of the country. which they've been exploiting. president sali is in a desperate situation and very much needs the united states' support. so helping target al-awlaki is a direct and straight forward way of him trying to get that spord. no indication he will. but it's what he would try to do. >> thanks so much for that. now listen to what president obama had to take about an war al-awlaki's death and impact on the al qaeda terror network. >> the death of al-awlaki marks another significant milestone in the broader effort to defeat al qaeda and its affiliates. furthermore, the success is a tribute to our intelligence community and to the efforts of
yemen and its security force who's have worked closely with the united states over the course of several years. al-awlaki and his organization have been directly responsible for the deaths of many yemeni citizens. his hateful ideology and targeting of innocent civilians has been rejected by the vast majority of muslims and people of all faiths. he has met his demise because the government and the people of yemen have joined the international community in a common effort against al qaeda. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula remains a dangerous though weakened terrorist organization. and going forward, we will remain vigilant against any threats to the united states or our allies and partners. but make no mistake this is further proof that al qaeda and its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. >> president obama's problem at home with african-american
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let's look at two huge issues for president obama's fight to win a second term, a lack of jobs in the united states and a lack of enthusiasm among many african-american voters. let's bring in our white house correspondent dan loathian. >> reporter: president obama has always taken a big picture view when it comes to race and his policies, pointing out that his efforts are aimed at helping all americans not just african-americans. well, that has not gone unnoticed. now as the president courts black voters key to his success in 2008, some of them are not as enthusiastic. >> 9:00 a.m. >> reporter: on this radio station, one of washington, d.c.'s top urban radio stations, daron "big ticker" morgan serves up music, edgy morning talk and commercials. but off mike there is a more serious tone when asked about
president obama. >> his level of expectations in the community, however, unrealistic is higher than for him to help us. that being said, i still think that lots of people are very, very supportive president obama. >> reporter: but in a searing opinion piece in the "washington post," columnist court land maloy wrote, it's hard to see how the plight of black people could get any worse, even under a president cane referring to the conservative republican hopeful. the managing editor of the root, a daily online african-american magazine, has heard the exasperations. >> there is a segment in the community that feels he could have targeted more efforts toward the african-american community. i don't think politically it's feasible in this country. >> reporter: one big criticism that the president has not addressed the high unemployment rate among blacks which the bureau of labor statistics puts at 16.7%. much higher than the national average. >> for african-americans, it has been absolutely devastating in the last four, five years. you know, as badly as the
majority community, the white community has been affected, it's been even worse for blacks. >> reporter: courting his base, the president sat down with a one-on-one interview with bet and gave a speech to the congressional black caucus where he acknowledged the economic cross-ice hiss taken a toll on an already hard hit black community. >> you have to be a little craye to have faith during difficult times. >> maxine waters was pleased that the president gave recognition to a problem some feel he's ignored. >> and that's extremely important that people understand that the president gets it. >> reporter: but a little air leaked out of that warm feeling when the president seemed to chastise african-american leaders in the same speech. >> i respect all of you who march with me and press on. take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes. shake it off. stop complaining. >> reporter: representative waters found the comment curious
and sick lated mr. obama had gone off script. a white house official confirmed it was an ad libbed but insisted it was meant as a rallying cry. while some african-americans may be frowning at the president, they aren't smiling at the options. >> we're going to talk about that whole situation. >> reporter: which is why morgan who voted for mr. obama remains optimistic. >> i think that they'll come back out again. it's about engaging them. it's about speaking to them directly or indirectly about what issues affect them. >> reporter: the question is will the president be able to generate the kind of enthusiasm that sent a lot of young black voters to the polls for him in 2008 in a tight race some believe that could be a factor. joe? >> dan loathian at the white house, thanks for that. more now on race and the presidential campaign with republican candidate herman
kain cain. wolf spoke with the former ceo of godfather's pizza. >> herman cain is joining us from atlanta. thank you for coming in. >> thanks, wolf. >> you doing well in the polls right now. let me specifically ask you about the african-american community. why is the republican party basically poison for so many african-americans? >> because many african-americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded, not even considering a conservative point of view. i have received some of that same visbecause i'm running fore republican nomination as a conservative. so it's just brainwashing and people not being open minded, pure and simple. >> that's a strong word to talk about your fellow african-americans, brainwashed? >> for two-thirds of them, wolf, that is the case. now the good news is i happen to believe that a third to 50% of the black americans in this country, they are open minded. i meet them every day. they stop me in the airport.
and so this whole notion that all black americans are necessarily going to stay and vote democrat, vote for obama, that is simply not true. more and more black americans are thinking for themselves and that's a good thing. >> you suggested, correct me if i'm wrong, that if you were the republican nominee, you think a third of african-americans would vote for you? >> i do believe a third would vote for me based upon my own anecdotal feedback. now they won't be voting for me because i'm black. they'll be voting for me because of my pl poolicies and what i'm offering to fix this economy starting with, as you know, my 999 plan. that's what they're responding to. >> let's talk about some of the issues like health care, for example. could you support mitt romney who when he was governor of massachusetts supported a mandate for health care? >> no, i could not. i do not support a government mandate for health care. i don't support the mandate that's in obama care. i wouldn't have supported a mandate that was in romney care.
no. i happen to believe that there are better market driven patient center solutions out there that were not even considered. that's the approach that i would take in order to first repeal obama care and then let the market determine and let patients and doctors term what's best for the patient and the doctor. >> so what i hear you saying is, correct me if i'm wrong once again, if he were the republican nominee, you wouldn't be able to support him? >> well, i wouldn't say that i wouldn't be able to report him because he has said that his first order of business would be to repeal obama care. if he stuck to that commitment, i could support him. but if in any way he wanted to go for a health care mandate, i couldn't support him. but i believe that he is backed off that. and he is saying that he would repeal obama care. >> if you were to repeal obama care, right now there are 50 million uninsured people in the united states. they'll get insurance under what you call obama care. what you would do with those 50 million if you repeal the health care reform law?
>> first of all, wolf, they are not going to be without health care. everybody in this country will get health care. hospitals cannot turn you away. if we look at the early rollout of obama care, more and more people are becoming uninsured. more and more companies are being forced to drop their health care coverage because obama care is just that bad. look at the fact that over 1300 companies asked for a waiver because when they look at the details of obama care, they're better off to either stay with what they have if they can get a waiver or they're going to put everybody on the government program. the plan simply does not work. >> are you with rick perry when he says he supports instate tuition for children of illegal immigrants in texas? >> no, absolutely not. because i happen to believe that that puts children of illegals in front of citizens, in front of soldiers. i don't agree with that. we must first secure the border
for real. that's the real problem we need to make sure that we solve. then decide later -- now i do agree that it's a state's issue and decision. i don't believe in putting children of illegals because of compassion in front of citizens. >> could you support rick perry if he were the nominee? >> today i could not support rick perry as the nominee for a host of reasons. him being soft on securing the border is one of the reasons. i feel very strongly about the need to secure the border for real, the need to enforce the laws that are already there, the need to promote the path to citizenship that's already there. but more importantly, empower the states to enforce the national federal immigration laws because the federal government didn't do it, can't do it, and they never will do it. so that's where i think he and i have a basic fundamental difference of opinion. >> you surprised a lot of people the other day when you won that florida straw poll. yet, there is this clammering by a lot of republicans for chris
christie to jump into the race right now. is that insulting to you and the other republicans who are in the race? >> it's not insulting as much as it is a disservice to the american people. chris christie has said for a long time that he wasn't interested in running for president. unfortunately, wolf, the media is trying to create a story by sucking chris christie into this race just like they tried to create a story of sucking rick perry into the race. now he had to make his own decision. and i respect that. but the fact that they continue to ignore those people that have already declared, focus on the people that already declared and i believe that that will do a better service to the american people if they get an opportunity to find out more about what we are about. that result in florida last weekend where i won that straw poll, it sent two very distinct messages, wolf. number one, the voice of the people is more powerful than the voice of the media, with all due respect. secondly, it says that the
american people are going to make that decision and it also says that this movement that we call the citizens movement is more powerful than we thought. message is more important than money. i believe that that's what's happening when you look at the results like those that happened in florida. >> herman cain, good to have you in "the situation room." good luck. >> thanks a lot, wolf. my pleasure. and this note, beginning monday "the situation room" moves up an hour. be sure to join us from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. eastern on week days. don't worry, international viewers, for you, the time stays the same. a syrian-american performs a protest song here in washington. and in retaliation, his parents are brutally beaten back home. the amazing story ahead. plus, bizarre new details about the man blamed for that killer anthrax case revealed nearly a decade later. ♪ here's where we deliver steady income - month after month.
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a poll taken in syria shows eight out of ten wantal la sad's regime to go. the survey was done with the help of an american group. even when syrians openly expressed their views in the united states, the regime can react with horrific brutality back home. cnn's reporter has more. ♪ >> reporter: 38-year-old musician says the message of his son arabic for my homeland is me is simple. >> what does it say? i am my homeland. and my homeland is me.>> what d?
i am my homeland. and my homeland is me. >> days after he played the song at this july 23rd anti-assad protest rally in washington, the reaction in his homeland, he says, was swift and brutal. >> you can see the blood of my wife. she is on the floor, on the carpet. my wife. >> reporter: his father, a 72-year-old surgeon, says these images taken moments after he and his wife were beaten at their home in syria showed just how far that government is willing to go to silence dissent. even if the voices being raise ready thousands of miles away. >> as came back from work evening, from my hospital, i came two men inside and closed the door and start hitting me, handcuffed me back. put tape on my mouth and nose.
pushed me upstairs where my w e wife -- they came up and start hitting her. mostly on her face in front of me. and they said to us this is a lesson to you to know how to behave your son who is demonstrating and making fun of us. >> reporter: cnn was unable to confirm at tack in homes and the government would not respond to our questions. but in the past, it is blamed arm gangs for attack onz
civilians. when malik learned what happened to to his parents, he said he was saddened but'surprised. >> it is a regime that is possible of doing any crime, any atrocities to terrorize people and to terrorize them. >> as he sits in his son's home in the united states nearly two months after the attack, the doctor's wounds may have healed but not the pain. >> i was very, very, very shocked. and the most what hurts was to watch -- to watch my wife being hitti hitting. and i can't do anything. >> reporter: far from silencing a song of protest, the attack against the composer's parents may have instead made it a rallying cry for the syrian
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armed iranian ships a dozen miles off the coast. that's the potential situation the u.s. is facing as iran threatens to flex its military muscle. cnn's brian todd has more. >> reporter: joe, up until now, iran's challenges to the u.s. have been mostly confined to the persian gulf region. now the islamic regime wants to take that gamemanship to america's doorstep. a direct threat to the east coast.
iran's top navy commander says his country will move naval ships into the atlantic, "with a powerful presence close to the american marine borders." the iranian admiral says his nation would only be reciprocating american military patrols in the persian gulf just miles from iran's shores. he didn't say when, how many, or what kind of vessels iran would send. the saber-rattling gets a quick brushoff from u.s. officials. >> we don't take the statements seriously. and given that they do not reflect at all iran's naval capabilities. >> reporter: it may be a matter of distance and resources. any iranian battle group would have to travel 9500 miles to get dlo close to america's east coast. experts say that would be difficult. iran's navy doesn't have many friendly ports where kit refuel and do maintenance and communications are a challenge. but this is no laughingstock navy. it's recently patroled in the mediterranean sea and indian ocean. it has three submarines and ships capable of launching
missiles with the names nor and naser. >> they can get as close to 12 miles from the east coast in international waters. let's say a ship is between 12 and 50 miles out, could one of those missiles hit u.s. mainland? >> well, this is a picture of a iranian launcher. it has a 75-mile range much it's no the fitting to the larger ships that would make the travel over here. so if it were fitted, then, yes, theoretically it can engage a land target and another ship up to 75 miles. >> he says the missiles wouldn't be as accurate if they tried to hit land targets. analysts believe it was a missile supplied by iranand fired by hezbollah which damaged an israeli ship in 2006, killing some israeli sailors. i asked an expert why iran would want to project power they may not have so far away from their borders. >> the reasons are all based on being able to justify their own grip on power in tehran, to
justify the abilities of defense expenditure in that country when people have other things worry b. >> reporter: things like economic problems. they say this saber-rattling may be enough for iran's leaders right now, zwroust give off that distraction and that they may never actually follow-through on this threat because of all the logistical challenges. joe? >> the most visible u.s. effort to fight terror focussed on air travel. we see a lot of it every time we fly. but there's a growing emphasis on terror underwater. cnn's john zorella has more. >> reporter: the fbi has had dive teams for a while. they've always been referred to as agents first and divers second. now they have a full time dive team. it's so new that many within the ranks of fbi itself don't know they exist. the diver needs help getting in the water is tricky. the state of the art equipment
including stainless steel diving helmets. the diver is fbi, specially trained. >> our team is certified to 300 feet where we can do recovery investigations and nuclear type diving as well. >> that's the primary mission of the ten-member team, to recover evidence in water environments too polluted or contaminated for anyone else. called the technical dive team it was formed a year ago in response to the threat of terrorists using water as a means of attack. >> and you look at various international instance that's have occurred where it is attacks on american civilians, where water has been involved that we've determined that we really do need to expand our capabilities. >> reporter: side scan sewn ar maps the bottom identifying targets of interest. the water is murky. visibility is low.
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fbi, it's going to be virtually impossible except in maybe 2% to 3% of cases for the defendant to even have a thin read of a hope of convincing a jury of his innocence. >> reporter: in the casest submarine, the team was successful in the war on drugs. if called upon, they plan to be ready in the war on terror. a second drug submarine was ceased on the 17th of september by the coast guard. they recovered some cocaine and the crew before the submarine sunk. in this case, the fbi dive team was not called in. joe? >> facebook is ramping up the political networking. why are social media companies trying to make a bigger impression these days? and a decade after anthrax attacks, new information about the sorority obsession that helped crack the case. [ fema] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture.
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as the 2012 campaign heats up, one of the most influential internet companies in america is creating a new vehicle to influence elections, that would be facebook. our lisa sylvester is here. so -- >> google has actually had a pact since 2006. facebook is now getting in on the action. and, you know, for all of its grassroots origins, facebook is actually a multibillion dollar corporation with a lot at stake in washington. facebook is friending people in high places, the internet company that ceo started in his harvard dorm room has formed a new political action committee to financially back political candidates. >> i think people are surprised because they look at mark zuckerburg and say wow, this
young kid is -- has so much money and so much influence and now he's going to go to washington and try to exert himself on the lawmakers. >> reporter: in a statement a facebook spokesman said, "f.b. pac will give our employees a way to make their voice heard in the political process by supporting candidates who share our goals of promoting the value of our innovation to our economy while giving people the power to share and make the world more open and connected." google hosted a debate last week, linkedin held a town hall meeting with president obama. at the same time, congress starting to pay more attention to internet companies. google's ceo was called to testify before senate panel last week on antitrust issues. other issues that might invite lobbying by internet firms, intellectual property, patents, taxes, and the biggy for facebook, privacy.
>> they are playing a unique role as a company in terms of all of the privacy and personal data that they control. and there's no question that they are going to be dealing more and more with legal overtours and regulatory challenges that are going to require extensive governmental interaction. >> reporter: disclosure forms show that facebook which had almost no presence in washington a couple years ago has been ramping up on the political front, hiring big guns like erskine bowles, president clinton's former chief of staff and former clinton press secretary joel lockhart. >> with google and the tech companies, we're seeing a real spike in activity in their campaign donations and lobbying. >> reporter: facebook so far spent $550,000 on lobbying this year. google has spent about six times as much or $3.5 million on lobbying this year. last year facebook had two lobbyists in washington, this year it has more than two dozen
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nearly a decade since those killer anthrax letters terrorized parts of the united states. we're learning surprising new details about the man authorities say is behind them and the woman who helped track him down. when the anthrax letters hit in october 2001, nancy is an up and coming scientist in seattle, specializing in hiv. a few months after the attack, january 2002, the fbi e-mails the american society of microbiology members. fbi profilers believe it is very likely that one or more of you know this individual. >> in my mind, it was as though something clicked. >> who did you think of? >> bruce i've advance.
>> bruce ivans. a scientist at the u.s. army medical research institute for infectious diseases, ft. detrick, maryland. ivan is an expert on anthrax. in fact, he is supposedly helping federal agents. >> in january 2002, bruce ivans was in the thick of it. >> what the feds do not see is the hidden side of bruce. i am being eaten alive by paranoid thoughts. >> bruce has lived a double life. >> psychologist will describe him as a secretive, paranoia and rage-filled man. >> there's a definite dark side to him that no one knew about.
>> i met bruce in chapel hill, california. >> nancy was a graduate student at the university of north carolina. bruce ivans was there, too. ivans asked about the sore tea, and seemed obsessed. >> every time i talked to him, he would mention it. finally i said, bruce, that's enough. as their careers took shape over the years, ivans kept in touch. shortly after the anthrax attack, he e-mails these photos with what is now call the infamous strain of anthrax. >> he wants his former colleagues to know that he was doing important work. >> one detail stands out. >> he said he was working in the containment lab. and he wasn't wearing gloves. and that's a bio safety hazard. what that is, to me, a sign.
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jeanne moos is on the trail of pranksters who are using presidential candidate rick perry words. >> reporter: if you thought that he rambled before the debate, you haven't seen nothing yet. >> and i suspended off this bridge. >> reporter: no, rick perry is not the victim of a neurological seizure, he's part of bad lip reading. and it turned into this. >> ice cream. that is cheap. that's a fact. >> reporter: and this. >> with the support of my family. >> reporter: became this.
next thing you know he's saying all sorts of nonsensical things. >> eggs, doritos, cheesecake. >> reporter: he was known for taking music videos and, for instance, black-eyed peas hit and the rick perry video is exposing bad lip reading to a whole new announcement. >> i declare to you today as presidential nominee of the united states. hot yellow kool-aid and save a prets zel for the. >> reporter: one twitter said, this is the most sns that he's ever made.
for instance, i love you. olive juice. i love you. olive juice. i love you. olive juice. the creators of bad lip reading are still being mysterious. one said i'm interested in maintaining the anonymity of blf for the time being and took president obama's words and transformed them but it's not as funny as rick perry's. something about that texas drawl. >> hot, yellow kool-aid and save a prets zel for the gas jets. >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> i'm joe johns, join us every we