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the u.s. for a visit that is going to last months. find out what he's doing here and why the royal family might be a little nerve was about his trip. let's start with a prominent pastor who backs republican rick perry for president. he is sparking a political firestorm at the values voters summit in washington. shortly after introducing governor perry to the crowd of social conservatives, texas pastor robert jefferss talked to reporters saying republicans should not take mitt romney as their nominee because he is morm mormon. later, jim acosta gave jeffers a chance to clarify his controversial comments. >> if you don't mind me saying, pastor jefferss, you created a bit of a stir coming out of that speech. in talking to reporters, you said in strong, plain language what you think of mormonism. you described it as a cult and you said if a republican votes
for mitt romney, they're giving some credibility to a cult. you stand by that comment? >> absolutely. that's not a fanatical comment. that's been a historic position of southern christian ee advantage gelky. i think mitt romney is a good, moral man, but i think those r of us who are born again followers of christ should always prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> what do you say to those voters out there who say that religion as mormonism shouldn't be an issue in this campaign? >> i agree he's just as american as anyone else. >> and mormons say they're christian. they believe in jesus christ. >> but they do not believe historical christianity. and i, again, please that we
have a duty to select christians as our leaders. that's what john jay, the first supreme court justice said and i think between a rick perry and a mitt romney, i believe evangelicals need to go with rick perry. >> and jim is there at the value voters summit. let's start with, i guess, several of these different camps. let's start with governor perry, first of all. what was his spont response to the pastor's comments? >> well, the campaign put out a statement last night saying that governor perry does not believe mormonism is a cult. but following pastor jefferss comments, he was introduce iing rick perry yesterday, perry got up on the stage and said pastor jefferss hit it out of the park. so it's interesting that he would use those choice of words
given what pastor jefferss thoughts are on mormonism. mitt romney earlier this morning followed bill bennet, who sa prominent christian conservative. let me first play bill bennet's comments and then i'll explain what mitt romney had to say about those comments. >> and i would say to pastor jefferss, you stepped on and obscured the words of perry and sanatorium and cain and bachmann and everyone else who has spoken here. you did rick perry no good, sir, in what you had to say. and if i may say, i hope you have to announce this to the press in terms of the debate between mormons and evangelical christians, i was there first. the one true holy catholic and
apostolic and universal church, and i forgive you all in the name of the father and the -- >> so bill bennet is trying to use some humor there to lighten the mood. governor romney, when he got up on stage after bill bennet, he said bill bennet hit it out of the park. it was a subtle dig at rick perry, but it was a dig that everybody here at this conference completely understood. later on in his speech, mitt romney had something else to say about a gentleman by the name of brian fisher with the american family association. he's another prominent social conservative who has criticized mormonism and mitt romney said that poisonous language, in his words, does not advance our cause and has never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. just for a brief few moments, mitt romney talked about his faith. here is what he had to say. >> our heritage of religious faith and sole rans has
importantly shaped who we become as a people. we must continue to welcome faith into the public square and allow it to flourish. our government -- our government must respect religious values, not silence them. we will always pledge our allegiance to a nation that is under god. >> now, the romney campaign, those that are close to mitt romney and the candidate himself, t.j., all thought they had dealt with this back in 2008 when the former massachusetts governor ran for president, he gave a big speech at texas a& m talking about his faith and trying to put this behind him. but make no mistake, it is bag in a big way. it really exploded here at this conference this weekend and it will be an issue for mitt romney as the days and months go on. >> jim, thank you as always.
i want to to take a look at a recent poll, do you think the country is ready to elect a mormon president? 61% said yes, 25% said no. the poll was conducted from september 26th to this past thursday. more now on mormons. you may not know a whole lot about the religion. the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints was founded in the 1800s. according to church doctrine, smith was led to a city in new york where he found tablets and those tablets are the basis for the book of mormon. smith claimed he god god on a hill in the flesh. he and his followers fled persecution and eventually headed out west and settled in what became utah. mormons do believe in christ and
god and do consider themselves christians. again, the pastor backing perry says basically, americans and basically he's saying that the republicans, primary voters, they should not be voting for romney because of his mormon faith. let's turn to these demonstrations we have been seeing in the streets. they have back in the streets today. the occupy wall street protests continue to grow in their 22nd day now. these scenes are new york where protesters first gathered. protesting against disparities and corporate greed. hundreds of people marched through downtown austin, texas. similar scene in philadelphia. one of the leaders say protesters won't stop until their message reaches every single house in america. so you might still be wondering, exactly what is the message open occupy wall street? what is the message of
protesters across the country? what are they trying to get out? several of those protesters from the obvious atlanta organization, they joined me earlier in the news room to shed some light on who they are and what they want. >> social and economic inequality has been a tipping point and people are hungry for getting involved and trying to do something to change it. when nine out of ten races and in politics is won by the candidate with the most money when, you know, one in 14 in georgia right now are in poverty. that's a 21% increase since the recession started. people are struggling. it's almost like a -- i want the american dream back movement. >> john, what do you do the change it, though? you've got our attention. we've got you here. we've been covering the protests. now what? >> i think the first step is acknowledgement. people coming together in unity, acknowledging these issues and saying we have to be more progressive, more inknewive about coming up with solutions.
>> they went on to say that one of the most important things is that all americans get involved in efforts to overcome the country's problems. meanwhile, president obama, he's turning up the heat on congress. so to pass his $447 billion jobs plan, the senate is scheduled to vote on the measure next week. and in the president's wreakly address, the president says his package of job cuts, job training assistance will put americans back to work and prevent another economic downturn and he issued this challenge to republicans who oppose his bill. >> this is not the time for the usual games or political gridlock in washington. so any senator out there who is thinking about voting against this jobs bill needs to explain why they would oppose something that we know would improve our economic situation. if the republicans in congress think they have a better plan for creating jobs right now, they should prove it. because one of the same independent economists who looked at our plan just said, our ideas, quote, wouldn't mean
much for the economy in the near term. >> republican senator john thune intended to do some explaining to the president. listen to this. . >> president obama's policies are damaging our economy and his proposed solutions are not serious. it's nothing but a rehash of the same ideas combined with a tax increase. this sa political employ designed not to create jobs for struggling americans but to save the president's own job. >> now, the snee is expected to vote on the bill next week. republican senators in the house say the bill will not get a vote in that chamber. the breaking and sad news out of oakland, california, the legendary owner of the oakland raiders, al davis, has died. the announcement come on the team's website. he hasn't been in great health over the past several years. but for the past 45 years, davis
had been serving as the team's general manager. he saw his teams win a number of championships. three super bowls in there. he was 82 years old. we'll have much more on al davis throughout the day. but the news we're just getting from the oakland raider is that their legendary owner, al davis, has died. we turn now to steve jobs and two days after his death, reportedly he was laid to rest at a private funeral yesterday. a source telling "the wall street journal" that services were hell at an unnamed location. the source says the funeral was a small family affair. the apple co-founder died wednesday in california after a long battle with pancreatic cancer. the company says there will not be a public memorial ceremony for steve jobs. 11 minutes past the hour now. what was michael jackson's doctor doing in the hours before and right after jackson died? stay here. you'll hear what jurors have been hearing all week. also, there's magic in that perfect fold at your favorite
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14 minutes past the hour now. all week, we've been hearing more about michael jackson's final hour. yesterday, before testimony wrapped up for the week, jurors were listening to jackson's personal physician talking to detectives. here now are ted rollins, following the story. >> t.j., the murray trial ended the week with riveting testimony from conrad murray via an audio tape the jury lynched as murray talked to investigators. and this was done just two days after michael jackson died. he talked about the fact that when he came on board to take care of mike y58al jackson, he found out he would be giving him
propofol on a daily basis. he said each and every night he would put michael jackson to sleep using propofol, except, he said, for the three days leading up to jackson's death. he said he was trying to wean him off of propofol and that was the only time he didn't give it to him. listen carefully as murray tells investigators what happened during those crucial moments when jackson was unresponsive. >> no. i came back to the bedside in -- a sense that he wasn't breathing. immediately, i felt for a pulse in the femoral region. his body was warm. there was no change in color. i then lifted his leg, which can be -- on auto transfusion. then i continue to do cpr and mouth to mouth resuscitation
until the paramedics came. the paramedics came, they called ucla. they hooked him up to the pulse oximeter. he was not breathing. >> the headline from this audio is that murray never mentioned any of the telephone calls that we've already heard in court. phone calls to his girlfriends and to his office staff during those critical periods. it's something the defense will have to grapple with in closing arguments. looking forward to next week, monday is a dark day there there's no court at all. on tuesday, we'll hear the tail end of this audio tape. it's about a two-hour long tape. we got through in about an hour and 40 minutes. we'll finish that up and then it will be cross-examination time of the detective that's on the stand. t.j. >> thanks to our ted rollins. coming up next hour, stick around to hear some of our legal experts, sonny and lenny are taking on the view of the
girlfriend. kyra philips is coming up at the top of the hour, as well. the next time you go shopping, it could be today. whatever you do when you walk into that store, do not turn to the right. our financial analyst, collide anderson, is long to explain some of the shopping trips that you are -- or tricks that you are falling tore.
20 minutes past the hour. your favorite retailer is studying you, literally, watching you when they're shopping. they're figuring out what you're going to do and collecting that data and using it against you, trying to get you to spend even more money. earlier, i spoke with collide anderson and he tells us how to recognize some of these retail secrets. >> how much time, energy and effort and money do they put into this research snch. >> millions of dollars. it's a big game. we have to realize the game .play it like it's a game. we don't know the rules a lot of times so we lose. >> clearly, that gets us to spend millions in the store. >> exactly. >> here is one of the tricks. the display and how they fold the clothes? >> it's the way they fold the clothes. it's a proper fold and it looks so neat there. but also you have that display with the wonderful model there with the shirt on that's wearing the shirt and you believe you're going to look like that model in the shirt there. so you're going to go ahead and push chas it.
and it looks so neat there, you can't refuse that. i thought they stack them because you want a clean, neat store. >> i plays in your mine. >> here we go. you're telling me buy one get one free is not a good deal sometimes? >> not always. >> come pop if i buy one and get another one free, that's not a good deal? >> do you always know what the original price was? if you don't know what the original price was, how do you know if you're get ago deal. that's what you have to look for. they could be increasing the price to give you that. the more units they sell, the better their numbers look. >> i don't know about that one. now, here is the one. when you walk into the store, don't turn to your right. this is something we would never think about. >> they're anticipating that you're going to turn to the right. the majority of people in this country are right-handed. what do we all automatically do? you turn to the right. they're going to put the higher cost items on the right, they play the music louder on the right-hand side to attract you to the right-hand side.
so the new items, the feature items, the things that are higher priced items, they're going to have them over on the right. >> aren't you going to eventually get around to that part of the store, anyway? >> sometimes maybe, sometimes not. you may spend all your money before you get to the left. >> and is those little things at the counters as you're standing there to pay, you see all this stuff around you. >> we know this, we've talked about this, but we still fall for it. we're standing there, waiting at the register, that looks good. it's only a couple of bucks, i'll buy it. they know you're going to do that. that's why they strategically place it there. it was not your intention when you came into the store to buy it. >> you fall far all of it, don't you? 22 minutes past the hour. still ahead, britain's prince harry is living in the u.s., at least for now. we'll tell you what he's up to. also, how much, other solar energy companies who are looking for federal help. we'll take a closer look. [ junior ] i played professional basketball for 12 years.
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25 minutes past the hour now. the white house has handed over 2,000 pages of e-mails related to that controversial solyndra loan. congress is investigating why the administration backed the deal. a year later, solyndra went bankrupt. more than 1,000 people lost their jobs. at issue is how much did the obama white house know about
solyndra's financial problems and red flags raised by the energy department. one e-mail from an energy department adviser said the president is, quote, breathing down my neck about this, end quote. and weeks after solyndra collapsed, another solar company is in line to get a greater amount of taxed base financing. but the company insists this time it's a good deal. here now is casey. >> reporter: the remote town in nevada peaks during the early 1900s silver boom when the last mine shut down. >> 1947 struggled. the historic hotel, once nevada's tallest building, closed 12 years ago. but locals say their future is brighter than ever. mines are reopening and 600 new construction jobs with coming, thanks to the sun opinion. >> it's called the crescent dune solar energy facility. this is where about a 650 foot
tower will be built here in the middle of the famt. and then that tower surrounded by a field of mirrors, about 17,000 extremely large mirrors that focus the sun's energy at the top of this tower. >> reflected sunlight will be collected by a receiver and heat molten salt to 1,000 degrees. that will be combined with water to produce steam generated electricity starting in 2013. solar reserves and investors put up $650 million. construction began in september. but the entire project hinged on help from the energy department. still reeling help collapse another another solder company, solyndra. they have requested $200 million more than solyndra received before it filed for bankruptcy. but solar reserve says it has little in common with solyndra. solar reserve has a 25-year
contract with the nevada power company to provide enough electricity up to 75,000 homes. >> our contract is based on selling electricity. >> photo voltaic manufacturers have been crippled. solyndra was further hurt by a bad technology bet. companies are saying they're being unfairly tarnished by solyndra's collapse. >> how confident are you that american taxpayers are not going to be left on the hook for $730 million that you received in federal loan guarantees? >> we think it's a very good investment by the u.s. government. >> but it's an investment some say is misplaced. >> these industries, polar pv, solar thermal and other alternative energy producers have real economic disadvantages and continuing to invest in the current technologies for alternative energy production is not likely to yield big payoffs.
>> the chinese are pouring 20 times the money we are into their technologies. we can either decide to try and compete or we can withdraw from the market and let everybody else lead that market. back in town with, restaurants welcomed the solar project. hotels are booked solid and the mispah has reopened. >> it was a big relief noelg that the doe funding came through. >> but two other federally backed solar projects have been delayed recently as solyndra cast its shadow over solar. and as we come up on the bottom of the hour, a ten-month old girl goes missing. police now say the parents are becoming less cooperative in the investigation. we will have the latest on the search for that little one, baby lisa. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil now and maybe up to four in a day.
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veterans and their families and protesters walked through washington, d.c. carrying signs that said fund jobs, no war. we'll tell you what angers them. america has lost nearly 1800 service members during the war, another 14,000 came home wounded. this cost take packsers some $323 billion and counting. i want to turn to kansas now. for the parents of a missing 10-month-old baby insists they have never stopped help police find what happened to little lisa irwin. at one point, the cans conditions city political says the couple was no longer cooperating with the investigation. today, the search expanded to a landfill. ed lavendera is there with us. ed, what led them to want to search landfills? >> what i'm gathering from talking to police contact here in kansas city is that they're just kind of doing whatever they can. they're basically saying
publicly here that they have no leads to follow, so they're just trying to think of things that may be possibilities at this point. that's why you saw the search yesterday at the landfill, fbi helping out in that search. that didn't turn up anything. after many days working here in this neighborhood, they returned here yesterday with metal detectors and they were working a wooded area back in this area behind the house, t.j. they've been talking again to neighbors who live around the family here, as well, so they continue to do all of that simply because they're really just trying to come up with a wide aware of series as to what might have happened because they have no solid leads. add to that the confusion to what's going on with this family and the he said she said about whether or not the family of 10-month-old lisa irwin is cooperating with authorities. thursday, the police department said the family stopped cooperating. the family saying yesterday that that's not true, that they continue to work with
authorities, although we've talked to a couple family members that say they don't want to sit in the police department for hours and hours upon end. despite that, the mother of lisa irwin says she was told by police she failed a polygraph test. that has made a lot of people suspicious about her. family members say they fill have full faith in here. >> absolutely. there's zero doubt in deborah. you know, i don't want to go into b it too much, but the police are doing their job the. if you don't have any suspects, you go to the one person that was there that night, the last person to see her. who else do you point your finger at? >> and t.j., the last thing that the family -- or the mother of lisa irwin says that she had put her to bed on monday night. it wasn't until tuesday morning about 4:00 in the morning when the baby's father had come home from working an overnight shift
and skofrd that the baby was missing. we're going on quite some time, there has been no update as to where this baby is. the more time passes, the more scary this situation becomes. >> ed lavendera, thank you. meanwhile, back to presidential politics, the republican presidential candidates are converging on washington this weekend. there's a gathering of social conservatives. about every major gop candidate is looking to win. today on the stand was texas governor ron paul. >> our liberties are under attack today, no doubt about it. we will have to meet up and make these decisions. to me, the most important decision we have to ask is what should governing be like? what should the role of government be? it isn't where do you put this penny or this penny and what do
we do here and there and tinker around the edges, it should be what should the role of government be? the founders said the role of government ought to be the protection of liberty. >> the experiment is about to end unless we reverse this trend. i would say we have gone downhill for the last ten years, especially for the last ten and especially for the last four when we think of our economy. but the real challenges, are we going to transition from the republic to the empire and to dictatorship? and there are so many signs that we are transforming into empire and dictatorship and just think of the bearing down on our personal liberties today. think about what happens when we go to the airports. think about now you have no privacy whatsoever. now, the government can look
into every single thing. so we are living in an age where government is way too big and it's time this government act properly and that is to protect our freedoms. >> mitt romney spokes after ron all. he blasted the president's economic policies and he also did not mention the controversial comments by a pastor who backs his rival, rick perry. pastor rival jeffer ss started political storm. he said voters should not vote for roomy because romney is a mormon, which he believes is a religious cult. prince harry is in the united states, but this is no vacation. we'll explain, next. stay with us. looks great, hun.. woman: ...and we're not real proud of this. man: no...we're not. woman: we...um...
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desperately needed. >> scott, come here for a second. this is what i did. just zoom in a little bit. t.j. was asking what part of texas needs the rainfall. i basically told him, texas needs rainfall anywhere inside this particular line right there which, of course, is texas, one of the driest summers on record. the problem is, the growing season is over and now all the damage has been done. but now we can see potential flash flooding, namely on parts of i-20. amarillo and lubbock appear to be in the clear. but now even over to odessa, there's a chance they can see 2 to 6, up to 10 inches of rainfall in some areas. keep it in mind, right along that frontal boundary, we're going to see the scattered showers. and in some place webs possibly
a few thunderstorms. now, on the back half of that system, you will see the rain, but in the higher elevations, the rocky mountains, we're not talking about rain drops, rather, we're talking about snow. some spots may be up to a foot. as we wrap things up, very quick look at your temperatures around the nation. 76 in new york, 45 in denver with the high, 69 in san francisco and 6 in seattle. all right, t.j., i will not make fun of you any more. we'll pitch it back to you. >> no, i appreciate the clarity. thank you, as always. 16 minutes up to the top of the hour and britain's prince harry is in the united states. he is here to learn all he can about attack helicopters, at least that's what he's supposed to be doing. the story now from cnn's max hoff. >> prince harry has already been to war, serving on the front line necessary afghanistan in 2008. then he was on foot. but as he returns, it will be by
air. harry is about to qualify to fly this, the deadly apache helicopter, fully loaded with rockets, missiles and a 13 millimeter chain gun. this may look like afghanistan, but it's arizona and the setting for the final part of harry's apache training. the course is called exercise crimson eagle, and those who have done it before talk of the white knuckle moment when you fire a live missile for the very first time. it will be a first for harry, too, and a reality check for someone referred to as the party prince. in some parts of the press. it's perhaps worth noting that just a few hours' drive from harry's training base in arizona is the city that builds itself as the entertainment capital of the world. it is, of course, los angeles. we're not expecting any media access to harry while he's in the u.s., but there will be a few photographers holding out for a shot love him here. prince harry is due to return to
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birthday. he joined me last hour in the studio and talked about the republican presidential lineup. >> probably one of the most sensitive fellows in line is huntsman. but they don't pay any attention to him. they're interested in herman cain, bless his heart. >> what do you mean bless his heart? >> he's having the time of his life. he would give ten years of his life for what's happening to him now and i'm happy for him. i don't think he realizes that they're using it. >> what do you mean by that? hasn't he done this on his own? >> i think that they're using herman to send their resistance against romney and perry and the other fellows who are up top in the money raising. if you notice, i don't think herman's money anywhere reaches his votes in the popularity, and that's how you can measure how much support he has. by how much money he raises.
>> a few years bag, people didn't think we would have a black president. but what would you say about the day when people go into the voting both and their options are to vote for a republican, a black man and a democrat, a black man. what would you think about that? >> incredible. i don't -- well, i didn't think we would live -- in 1965, when we succeeded in getting the voting rights act passed, martin and others of us used the talk about the fact that we would never live to see an african-american president. we thought there would be one, but none of us would live to see it. unfortunately martin didn't, but thank god he did let me live long enough to see it, not only see it, but participate. but i didn't think we would. and so i take the same position, a black democratic candidate and a black republican candidate. i don't think i'll live to see that and i don't think you will, either. >> well, were you here, 90 years
old this week. you've got a big birthday celebration happening this weekend. i don't know what 90 is supposed to feel like. what does 90 foal like? >> it feels just like 89. >> does it? >> 89 felt good wednesday and 90 feels good friday. >> now, here we are and i want to turn to a serious note here. it was just days ago fred shuttlesworth, someone who you knew very well was right there with you all to help found the aclc march on the streets with you. he died. what is the significance of the elder statesmen, those civil rights era guys like you getting older? what's the significance of us losing those guys over time, those men and women over time? >> well, time moves on and, as much as we might regret it, we're all born to answer the bell when it tolls for us. but god has rams in the bush. and i think you will see from
time to time leaders will come forward. and the leadership is proliferating. we no longer, back in those era days, we depended on civil rights people for almost all the leadership. but now, leadership comes from many corners. we have leaders in business, we have leaders in science, we have leaders in education and we are experienced and widespread proliferation of leadership and i think it's healthy for the country. >> all right. and as i mentioned, we have a special -- they're all special guest anchors, but this is something else. >> this is a special part of your day? >> it is. she bricks the news, a lot of energy, she brings some class to my show. >> she is very sophisticated, let me tell you. >> but this is nice to set up some conversation.
>> you and i can get into trouble the way we chitchat. we have a lot coming up. holy cow, first shift, i'm going to be going until 5:00. this is like the energizer bunny shift. >> we get it done on the weekends. welcome to it. >> yes. hey, i remember doing the weekends. had a great time, yes, many, many years ago. conrad murray, of course, that's the first thing that we want to talk about. that will be coming up in the next hour. you know, our legal beagles, we have a segment with sonny hostins and lenny. they always get their opinions. strong willed women. we're going to talk about the fact that we're going to hear from conrad murray's girlfriends. that should be interesting. >> how many did we get up to? >> there's a handful. you've been talking about that, right? >> we have been talking about the trial. a lot of people, they try to follow it. on the weekends, this is a good time for us to get people caught
up. >> also, the baptist preacher, you've been talking about this all morning coming forward, he had to introduce rick perry at the summit. you remember this moment with our jim acosta, he says mormonism is a cult, don't vote for mitt romney. we're going to actually interview him in the 2:00 p.m. hour. then you'll hear from two women who changed their lives from being men. they say, hey, don't stereotype us. you'll hear their personal stories. and t.j., something that -- i can't believe it's been ten years since 9/11, the war started in afghanistan. you know my military background. i've done a lot of training, have maintained a lot of sources through the years. you'll see this piece i put together a decade ago when i got exclusive access to the air wing that was getting ready to bomb torabora. their mission was to take out bin laden. i'm going to talk to the captain
that has just retired. i knew we were going to war, i knew they wanted to take osama bin laden out. now a decade later, i'm going to be able to talk about what it was like behind the scenes. >> how long was the that before that first initiative? >> they were getting ready to drop the first bomb. 9/11, the terrorists struck our company and the military was getting ready to response. >> incredible. kyra philips is here. she's just about four minutes away. if you've just signed up for medicare or will soon,
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all right. before you do that yard work, you need to hear this. your neighbors might not appreciate it. you know those leaf blowers, pretty loud, annoying to some people. should they actually be banned? they will be in florida if some college students get their way. listen to this story from our affiliate wptv. >> reporter: it's a common sound across south that, the leaf blower. not everyone likes it. this group wants this piece of equipment, and all that comes wit, banned in all of palm beach
county. >> you can't have any type of conversation. you can't hear your music. you can't hear the bird. it's very annoying. >> reporter: some palm beach state college students are calling themselves save, students against volatile emissions. they will urge county commissioner to ban the leaf brothers effective 2012. >> i'm sure many of us have had a conversation and walking by said, wait a minute, groundskeeper going by. >> reporter: environmental effects the leaf blower brings. ray alvarez who owns pro lawn care plus said such a ban would take away one of the most efficient tools we have. >> if we can't use this, it's like cutting our own arm to do the job we need to do. >> reporter: alvarez said the leaf blower works much faster than cleaning up with the broom. saving time saves money. >> it's probably not going to be