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hour. for all the latest political news go to our website cnnpolitics.com. that does it for us. suzanne malveaux takes it from here. live from studio 7 i'm suzanne malveaux. want to get you up to speed for october 10th. well, it's take your kid to protest day. demonstrators are asking parents to bring their children to an occupy wall street rally today to see activism at work. after 24 days, the protests in lower manhattan, well, they have now spread to two dozen cities across the country. the movement it says represents the 99% of americans who are suffering in this economy. they say that politicians protect the richest 1%. one republican presidential candidate, herman cain, calls the movement anti-american. gop house leader eric cantor says mobs are occupying wall street.
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more funerals in syria today. opposition activists say that 31 people died when syrian troops opened fire on sunday. the attacks on anti-american -- rather anti-government protesters took place in several cities. president assad is warning countries not to recognize the syrian national council, which is set up in turkey last week. that council appears to be positioning itself as syria's next government. crisis talks are happening in egypt today to head off new violence. fighting between muslims and christians left at least 25 people dead over the weekend. christians say they were peacefully protesting a church burning when they were attacked by people they describe as thugs. christians say egypt's military rulers aren't doing enough to protect them. >> it's a very volatile
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situation, and many critics say it's not helped by the actions, for instance, of state-run tv which last night called upon what it called honest egyptians to come down and join the army in fighting against these predominantly christian protesters. >> the burst of vie lenolence i characterized as the worst since the uprising that drove president hosni mubarak from power. well, they had to bob in choppy waters for almost 20 hours. a family's boat sank off the florida keys on saturday dumping eight people in the water. the miami herald reports that one of them, a 4-year-old girl, survived by clinging onto a cooler. rescuers say some of the boaters didn't have life jackets. >> they said the seas were so rough they're looking at three to four-foot chop waves coming in at them. two of the officers jumped in the water, actually went and carried these kids back to the fwc patrol vessel.
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there were four kids, four kids under 12, and their lips were blue and possible hiypothermia was going to set in. they had to really kick into gear. >> an 80-year-old woman didn't make it and drowned. california kids will have to get that sun-kissed glow the old-fashioned way. the state is kicking anyone under 18 out of the tanning beds unless a doctor gives them a medical reason. studies consistently link tanning beds to a growing rusk of skin cancer. netflix says forget qwikster. customers ordering dvds by mail will logon to netflix.com just like people who stream movies. last month netflix announced plans to make dvd rentals a separate service called qwikster. that's because customers who get both mail and streaming services were angry over a price increase. well, qwikster goes away, but the price hack for the dual services, that does not. a weak economy means weak
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demand. that is why it keeps getting cheaper, right, to fill up your tank? that's the reason why. the lundberg survey says gas costs now 25 cents a gallon less than just a month ago. the national average for regular is $3.42 a gallon. and congratulations to paul mccartney. the former beatle married for the third time over the weekend. he's 69 years old. his bride, nancy shevell, is a vice president in her father's trucking company. legend barbara walters introduced the couple. she and shevell are cousins. congratulations. well, he called mormonism a cult and said mitt romney shouldn't be the republican presidential nominee. baptist poster robert jeffries' controversial comments at the values voters summit in washington this weekend. well, it's got a lot of folks still talking about it. so today's talk back question, should a candidate's religion matter?
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carol costello is joining us from new york. carol, covering president obama certainly a lot of people made a big deal about what his faith was, how he practiced it, his preacher who was involved in his faith. it seems like this is kind of fodder for everybody. >> yeah, it happens every election time, doesn't it? kind of expected this, didn't you? mitt romney's mormon faith may now sink his campaign. conservative christians important in a republican primary never did quite embrace romney or his faith. listen to what evangelical preacher robert jeffress said at the values voters summit. >> southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denomination in the world, has officially labeled mormonism as a cult. i think that romney is a good moral man, but i think those of us who are born again followers of christ should always prefer a competent christian to a competent nonchristian. >> pastor jeffress was largely criticized for that remark, even
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kind of sort of by herman cain. >> i'm not running for theologian in chief. i'm a lifelong christian and what that means is one of my guiding principles for the designaturd decisions i make is i start with do the right thing. i'm not getting into that controversy. >> and this from a candidate who said he wants to add gospel beats to "hail to the chief." let's face it, religion has always been a factor in presidential campaigns. john f. kennedy delivered a speech in 1960 insisting his catholic faith would not interfere in his presidency, and, oh, wait a minute, mitt romney delivered a similar speech back in 2007, the last time he ran for president. romney said, i do not define my candidacy by my religion. imagine if a jewish or muslim candidate goes for the gold? wow. that's the talk back question today. should a candidate's religion matter?
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facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your comments later this hour. >> thank you, carol. here is a rundown of some of the stories ahead. first, the occupy wall street movement marching across the country. well, today in new york demonstrators are being asked to bring their kids along. plus, the recession officially ended more than two years ago, but life at home is getting worse for many instead of better. details from the new york stock exchange. and then republican presidential candidate herman cain says african-americans should give up blaming racism. 21 years after being forced to leave his ministry, a gay presbyterian clergyman is welcomed back. and this -- >> how often do you get bullied, do you get pushed around? >> lalmost every day. >> almost every day? >> yes. >> terrorized by their peers, they're finally speaking up. anderson cooper hosts bullied kids at a town hall.
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it's day 24 of the occupy wall street protest. demonstrators in new york are asking parents to bring their kids to the rally today so they can witness what activists say is uniting against corporate greed and economic inequality. meanwhile, in washington political leaders, they're starting to weigh in. reaction seems to be pretty much split along party lines. >> i, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying wall street and the other cities across the country. >> i didn't hear him say anything when the tea party was out demonstrating, actually
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spitting on members of congress right here in the capitol. >> the occupy wall street movement is spreading far beyond where it first started in lower manhattan. we are now seeing protests in more than two dozen cities across the country. even a few cities around the world. and that is despite not even having a central organizers. steve kassenbaum of cnn radio is at the protests in new york. he joins us live. steve, good to see you. i understand that, first of all, the group has -- >> reporter: thanks for having me. >> sure. welcome. i understand they have sent out a list of demands today and this is really newsworthy. what do they have on the list? >> reporter: you know, it's really interesting because this is a leaderless movement. it's really not clear where this list of demands came from or whether it's representative of everybody taking part in an occupy wall street demonstration here and across the country. but on this list of demands they're talking about passing house rules 1489,h r 1489 which
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would be the return to brunt ba -- prudent banking act. we are talking about reinstating provisions of the glass/steagall act. it's really not clear where that list of demands came out from, and because they're trying to create consensus through a group process, those demands change day in and day out here, and, again, it's not necessarily rent tiff of the thoughts of everybody taking part in the occupy wall street demonstrations. >> sure. and some are calling this the civil rights movement of our time. what do you make of that? you're on the ground. you see folks there firsthand. does it seem like it rises to that level? >> reporter: i don't know that it rises to that level yet, but you're seeing more and more people from across economic lines here joining this
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demonstration. we're not just seeing young folks here in the park that made up this demonstration in those early days. we're starting to see people from all walks of life, all ages. i have seen young families with children in tow. i have seen folks close to the retirement age, and the one thing that seems to be binding them together is this sense of truss trati frustration that government does not have the people's best interest at heart anymore. they want that to change. in a word what they want is equity and they also want to see ethics in government today. they say that doesn't exist anymore and they want a change. the big question is how do you go about creating that change when you're trying to build consensus through this large group process. by the way, that group grows every day and everybody's voice is heard every day. so it's hard to say where this will go. >> steve, real quick here, we heard from congressman eric cantor. we heard from him describing what he saw there as a mob. is that what you're seeing or
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does it seem like it's rather a peaceful and orderly situation? >> reporter: yeah, you know, i think anybody here in this crowd at the park and at any of the occupy wall street demonstrations across the country would take great offense to being called a mob. it's anything but a mob here. they've organized into a small city here. they have a media center here. they have an area where donated food is distributed in a very orderly fashion. they have dozens and dozens of donated bags of clothing here for folks who may not have the proper clothing for the colder weather when it arrives. we see a library has been set up in one corner here where donated books are being lent out for free. they even have a media center here where they're trying to get their messages across to the rest of the world and asking other people to join the movement. it's actually a pretty well-organized encampment here at least. >> steve, welcome to tv. you did a great job. appreciate your reporting.
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thanks again, steve caukassenba. >> reporter: thank you. cnn ireporters are helping to document the occupy wall street protests. you see the map of where they're being held. submit your own photos of marches, sit-ins, add to that time line at ireport.cnn.com and click on open story under occupy wall street. now for a story that our affiliates are covering across the country. san francisco's waterfront was packed over the weekend. everybody trying to get a glimpse of some of the navy's biggest ships under the golden gate bridge. pretty cool stuff. the famed blue angels you see there. also to help celebrate fleet week. go away! he won't stop. >> this is just funny.
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ended in june of 2009, but you wouldn't even think -- you wouldn't even believe that by looking at the household income. a new report finds a steeper drop in household income in the two years since the recession ended than actually while it was going on. karina huber standing by at the new york stock exchange to give us this story. first of all, if the recession is over, why do we think that pay is still being held down? >> reporter: well, suzanne, the main factor here, of course, is unemployment. while the unemployment rate has fallen to 9.1% since the recession, the number of americans who are no longer a part of the labor force, those who are so discouraged by the situation they're not even looking for work, that number has increased. those who do have a job, their wages are not being increased. companies don't have to pay them more because there's so much competition out there. the medium income has fallen by since the recession ended.
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>> how much of a drop are we actually talking about here? >> reporter: well, according to the research, which comes from the center research put together by two former employees of the census bureau, the drop during the recession, so from december 2007 to june 2009, was 3.2%. since then we've seen a 6.7% drop, so that means the job drop is more than double. officially the recession is over, many americans aren't feeling that right now. >> how does that affect the overall standard of living for folks when their income takes a dip like that? >> reporter: dramatically. one researcher that we spoke to said the almost 10% drop, that's if you include during the recession and since the recession, represents a significant reduction in standard of living. of course, the problem is wages, they're worse than stagnant, they're falling. at the same time inflation continues to march forward. we're seeing higher prices for food and energy. that means americans have to make some tough choices about how they spend their money. suzanne. >> karina, thank you so much.
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here is a rundown of some of the stories we're working on. republican presidential hopeful herman cain says that racism no longer holds anyone back in a big way in this country. we're going to get reaction from talk show host tavis smiley and professor cornell west. then the presbyterian church usa ordains its first openly gay minister. we'll talk to him about his long journey. later, imagine being bullied every day. 40 people tormenting you. that's what one student told anderson cooper at a town hall meeting last night. stopping bullying, our cnn in depth. republican presidential hopeful herman cain again tackling the race issue. you may remember the african-american businessman sparked controversy when he told cnn late last month that black voters had been brainwashed into not even considering a conservative point of view. well, he was back on cnn over the weekend. this time saying that blacks are not being held back by racism. take a listen.
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>> i don't believe racism in this country today holds anybody back in a big way. is there some -- are there some elements of racism? yes. it gets back to if we don't grow this economy, that is a ripple effect for every economic level, and because blacks are more disproportionately unemployed, they get hit the worst when economic policies don't work. that's where it starts. i have seen blacks in middle management move up to top management in some of the biggest corporations in america. they weren't held back because of racism, no. people sometimes hold themselves back because they want to use racism as an excuse for them not being able to achieve what they want to achieve. >> so herman cain points to his own credentials as former ceo of godfather's pizza to make his case that many african-americans have a level playing field when it comes to economic issues. that is despite the labor department's statistics showing african-american unemployment
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almost double the national average. princeton professor cornell west and pbs broadcaster tavis smiley is joining us from los angeles. thank you for being here with us. i know you just wrapped up an 18-city poverty tour and your week-long series on poverty starts today on pb s. professor west, i'd like to start off with you. what do you make of what herman cain said? he did acknowledge that racism exists, but he says, you know, it doesn't matter that much, that more of it is about actually working hard and making opportunities happen for yourself. >> well, one, black people have been working hard for decades. i think he needs it get off the symbolic crack pipe and acknowledge the evidence is overwhelming. i think he also knows that if brother anthony davis, a brother who was just put to death, were a white wall street banker brother, that the response in the nation would have been very different as opposed to being a poor black brother. that's just one small example,
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one very small example of that. of racism still at work holding people back. >> i want to go to you, tavis. do you think he has a point, that there are some african-americans who will use it as a reason, as an excuse, for not getting ahead and not getting ahead as far as they'd like to go? >> it's not so much whether or not he has a point. herman cain is trying to get the gop nomination. when you're running for the nomination of a republican party and you have a talk show background that was a conservat radio, these are the stantement you make to play to your base. it trubs oubles me cnn and msnbd all these networks fall for the banana in the tail pipe. every time he says something ridiculous or crazy, suggesting racism doesn't hold people back,
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there are disparities in this country in every father that we follow, every socioeconomic factor we follow. the numbers are clear there's disparity based upon race. disparity in health care, disparity economically, disparity culturally and socially. there is a racial disparity element that's a part of it. it's almost silly to respond to because the evidence is so overwhelming. >> tavis, certainly i don't think cnn is falling for anything by simply bringing up this discussion and bringing up what he has to say. that's his point of view and he certainly is rising in the polls among the republican candidates there. i mean, people are going to talk about this issue and debate about this issue in a serious way. >> my point respectfully is anyone who listens to what herman cain says and asks a question, does he have a point, a point about what? the numbers are so -- it's so evident, it's so abundantly clear that there's such great
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clarity that race is such a factor. you cover the president and the white house. why does president obama have a secret service detail that -- there's no comparison in history for any president that's had a budget the size of the secret service budget now just to protect barack obama and we're talking about whether or not he has a point about racism in america, suzanne? >> certainly when you talk -- he's bringing up the fact that his own family, his own experience that he believes that is an excuse for other people to use racism for not getting ahead. you bring up president obama. let's listen to what he said at the congressional black caucus just a couple weeks ago because he also, he is accusing black leaders in particular for being lackluster for fighting for the poor. i want you to listen in. >> take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes, shake it off. stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying. we are going to press on. we've got work to do. >> dr. west, i'd like you to
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tackle that. >> well, i think it's fascinating to juxtapose on the one hand herman cain who has immediate yot i can, mendacity, mean spiritedness toward the poor, now mean spiritedness toward black people fighting for their lives in this ugly economy. on the other hand we have president obama who is much better than any other republican candidates no doubt, but at the same time disrespectful, arrogant, condescending acting as if black people have been walking around in their bedroom slippers as opposed to working very hard, not just leaders, but also the everyday people. so it's a reflection of the two-party system. mean spirited on the one hand and still too arrogant on the other. who is really going to speak for poor people? who is going to speak for working people? that's what i think the occupy movement is all about, occupying wall street movement is all about. >> tavis, i would like to wrap this with you. the poverty tour starts today on pbs and as you had mentioned,
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rightly, so the unemployment for african-americans double that of whites at 16%, and for black youth it's more than 40%. what is the message here? what needs to happen? what needs to be done to specifically improve and target that community when it comes to getting jobs? >> now we're onto something that really matters, not whether or not race holds people back. you know what's holding americans back? it's not just race. what is holding americans back is poverty. the new poor are the former middle class, and that's people of all races and ethnic origins and sexual persuasions and religious persuasions. too many americans are having their humanity contested every day by the exponential growth of poverty in this country. they're being treated as disposable, they're an afterthought, a political calculation. nobody is serious about doing anything to eradicate poverty in this country in washington. so, yes, to answer your question, we need jobs in the short run. the president has got to have courage, conviction, and
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commitment now that the senate has taken up this bill or will take it up this week, the jobs bill that is, he can't compromise. he can't capitulate. he can't cave. he's got to draw a line in the sand and fight. my granddad put it this way, some fights ain't worth fighting if you win, other fights you have to fight even if you lose. the president has to fight for jobs for all americans. that's how you get rid of poverty. >> we'll leave it there, tavis smiley, professor west, thank you for joining us. look forward to seeing your series. >> thank you very much. called to serve the church but banned from leading because he's gay. not anymore. we're going to talk to the first ever openly gay man to become an ordained minister for the presbyterian church usa. first k was really important to me. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke -- and personally that's what i knew i needed. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix.
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for the first time in its history, the presbyterian church u.s. has ordained an openly gay minister. the reverend scott anderson has been waiting a long time for this, more than 20 years. well, he joins us from madison,
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wisconsin, and, scott, i understand that this is a very big day for you. what does it feel like to be ordained and accepted in the ministry after all those years? >> well, it's an exciting time for me personally to be the first openly gay person ordained in the presbyterian church u.s. and it's a big moment for our church that has has excluded gays and lesbians for so many decades so it's a new day for us. >> did you ever expect your church would come to accept you? >> well, you know, i left the ministry in 1990. i had been a presbyterian pastor for eight years, and when i left, i never thought this day would come in my lifetime. god has brought a variety of surprises to my life, and this certainly is the biggest one. >> what did you think was the tipping point for the church, the congregation backed you, supported you. >> well, i think what's happening in the presbyterian church is happening also in the christian church across our
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nation right now, and that our church is recognizing there are a variety of viewpoints on scripture. there's no longer a right viewpoint and a wrong viewpoint but several faithful viewpoints one of which includes me in terms of being a minister in the presbyterian church. so we're honoring a diversity of viewpoints in our church. our church is a big tent and has always had diverse views. this move symbolically expresses that to the wider culture. >> tell us about that moment that you were outed by two church members 20 years ago. i mean, you had to give up a dream. you had to give up serving your community. what was that like? how did you respond? >> well, to be honest with you, tornado watches both the best and worst day of my life. the best day because i was able for really the first time to come out of the closet and to share with people i cared about who i was as a gay man, to be honest with people that i loved. it was also the worst moment
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because i have felt called to be a minister since i was a sophomore in high school, and i just loved being a minister, and to have to give that up just created an incredible amount of grief. so a whole series of mixed emotions in that day. >> reverend, do you think that this might be something that also other chumrches, other faiths will embrace? >> well, i think we've seen over the last couple of decades four protestant denominations in america, the presbyterian church being the most recent of the four, open the door to welcome gay and lesbian individuals into ministry, and i think there is a movement afoot in the church to widen the door, widen the circle to include us so, yes, i think we're going to see more of this in the future. >> and i know there's the church, but there's also politics as well. there's been a lot of debate in the gay community whether president obama has done enough. what do you think?
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>> well, i think we've made some progress. the bipartisan vote last december to repeal don't ask, don't tell for the u.s. military. you know, these changes don't come quickly, and, frankly, from my point of view so much has happened. we have five states which now have recognized civil marriage for gay and lesbian couples. i never thought that day would come in my lifetime. so i think we've seen enormous change already. it's a slow process, a gradual process, and i think god has more in store for us as a culture in terms of full equality for gay and lesbian people. >> all right, reverend scott anderson, thank you so much for talking with us this very important occasion, very important day for you and your congregation. thank you very much. >> thanks. mitt romney's religion comes under the microscope. a prominent texas minister calls mormonism a cult. romney has a town hall meeting this hour. we're going to talk to our
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it will air in the next hour. republican presidential hopeful mitt romney is holding a town hall meeting in new hampshire. that is happening this hour. his religion came under attack over the weekend by a texas pastor who called the mormon church a cult and said romney is not a christian. our cnn deputy political director paul steinhauser is live from the political desk in washington. so, paul, he's going to be speaking before folks. do we expect he's going to address the issue of his religion, his faith? >> probably not unless he's asked about it specifically. they have some live pictures in milford, new hampshire. the former massachusetts governor soon to be in front of the podium to talk to people at this town hall. all the candidates are in new hampshire today in advance of tomorrow's presidential debate. for romney who came under attack over the weekend, i think for him unless it's brought up, he will probably not address it. for romney he feels, been there,
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done that. it was four years ago he gave a major address on his mormon faith. he feels now he does not have to do that again. most voters know he's a mormon and are okay with it. he wasn't delve into it again unless he's asked about it. for some social conservatives it is still an issue and polling indicates that. not as much as it was four years ago but still an issue and for some social conservatives, they're very influential, iowa, south carolina, two early voting states. >> we are also hearing from jon huntsman this morning from new hampshire. >> he's up there as well. we have some live pictures. he's up there and giving a major address on foreign policy. his comes three days after mitt romney did the same thing. some of the things huntsman is talking about, he's saying he's going to call for a nimbler u.s. military force around the world. he's going to say nation building is not the role for our military and for our international relations. he's attacking the president over what barack obama has been doing in the white house on foreign affairs. take a listen.
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>> the world needs american leadership now more than ever. yet we are struggling to provide it. president obama's policies have weakened america, and thus diminished america's presence on the global stage. we must correct our course. >> huntsman is also touting his foreign policy credentials. remember, he was the u.s. ambassador to china for the last couple years before coming back here and deciding to run for president. >> paul, thank you. for the latest political news go to cnnpolitics.com. don't forget, we'd like to hear from you. today's talk back question, should a candidate's religion matter? julia says, religion doesn't matter to me. it's romney himself tells people what they want to hear. christopher says a candidate's religion is not important to me. after all, we are electing a president, no the a high priest. more of your responses coming up
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next. plus, nose dives, belly flops. yeah, and some flying. this festival crash landed in tampa this weekend. we have sights and sounds from the world famous do-it-yourself approach to flying. ♪ all laugh when you walk by ♪ and the neighbors' kids run and hide ♪ deep inside you, there's a person who refuses to be kept deep inside you. ♪ but you're not ♪ you're the one be true to yourself. what's healthier than that?
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we've been sounding off on the talk back question. should a candidate's religion matter? carol costello with your responses. carol, a lot of folks looked at president obama and very carefully about what he believed, what he didn't believe, whether or not he went to church, who his pastor was. it looks like everybody gets this treatment. >> you mean reverend wright?
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>> yeah. >> yeah. that mattered a great deal to voters. so our question today, can't forget that, should a candidate's religion matter? this from al, initially some may think to say no, but when you think it through it just might. not because it's religion per se but because of the ethics and a practice and instill in their practitioners. this -- no, but their morals should. people think you can't and moral person without being religious, which is sad. harry -- doesn't matter a single bit. this voter based on personal character and prospective political agendas. once in office, frankly, romney's picks for foreign affairs are morer withsome than his religion. this from don -- absolutely. it will be examined every time a person makes a decision. i wish we could remove this factor from the white house but we all know we cannot therefore we must pay attention to the religious influences of who we elect.
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facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read more in the next hour. >> are afraid of flying? afraid of heights? >> i am afraid of heights but not afraid of flying which is strange. >> i want you to see this piece. these are some crazy attempts and defying gravity. in tampa this weekend, it is an annual event. people make these machines, homemade machines and they try to get them to fly. watch this, carol. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> what is flugtag? >> about flying innovation. >> what is it? flugtag is the flying mechanical
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man. it is in honor of the mechanical flying man. >> we're trying to get to the farthest buoy to see if they can beat the people from last year but we haven't seen anyone do it yet. >> how do they judge this event? >> three things. first creativity. second is a little skip that we do. and last thing, you got to fly, dude! >> the record is 207. that's going down today though. >> our theme is miami beach lifeguards and he is going to be sitting in a glider and glide to safety. >> i'm a natural breast cancer advocate. we just launched a non-profit. we fight breast cancer in very unusual ways. red bug flugtag is an amazing way to kick it off. we're the second basemen. >> usa team has already been copyrighted. i don't know what they're talking about. >> i think it is cool. also funny. >> would you guys ever want to be in this? >> she wanted to be this year. i'm like we don't have time!
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♪ ♪ >> i don't know why they don't get farther. they all just seem to fall off the edge there. you know? >> i'm glad they weren't running off like a piece of the grand canyon. none of them even remotely flew! >> i don't understand. you'd think with all this information we have and modern technology they'd get a little farther. just a little bit! they all just seem to fall. >> and they spend so much time creating these beautiful pieces of art and then just throw them in the water essentially. >> the winner is called willie wonka and it's a flying adventure that won this year. they also won three years ago and so even with all this --
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what we saw, the belly flops, crash landings, there was only one crew that had an injury which i think is pretty good if you look at them. and these events, carol, are held all around the world! >> oh. well they had a similar event in baltimore but they make like things that can drive on the road and then float on the water. usually they sink, but that's just destroying your hard work. >> it's pretty fun to watch though. human innovation. we got to leave it there, carol. see you in a little bit. for reminding me. t, thans wait, what? i have the hotels.com app so we can get a great deal even at the last minute. ah, well played get the app. tels.com.
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cnn's "in-depth" this week, stopping bullying. anderson cooper hosted a town hall with kids who have been bullied and celebrities who are trying to stop it. these kids are amazing. they're up-front about how they've been treated and they're courageous. take a listen. >> how often do you get bullied? do you get pushed around? >> almost every day. >> almost every day. >> yes. >> and you're straight but your two dads are gay and you're on a
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gymnastics team which people make fun of you for. what do people say to you? >> they would call me gay, faggot, fag boy, gamian, gay-boy. >> what do they call you? >> they call me dike, [ bleep ] -- i've been called words i can't even say to this day. >> dylan, you're now being home schooled. did you just not feel safe in school. >> kids made me feel like i was the grossest person in the world and they would just go against walls and say "here comes the he-she," or "here comes the trash." i didn't feel safe at school so i just left. >> i'm sitting here and i'm stewing with rage and i just feel so angry and so upset for the four of you and your class experience and it seems to me that this is all backwards. instead of taking it up with the kids that are tormenting daily and using abusive language and
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being abusive to their students, this young man can't even go to school anymore. he shouldn't be the one having to stay home. i just want you to know that people do care about you. i care about you. and i really feel touched for your experience. >> you and your wife are raising a daughter. when you hear these kids, what goes through your mind? >> well, you know, these kids do need to know that they are loved and it's really, really sad that they don't have an advocate. i think this neutrality policy is abdicating their responsibility, the adult's responsibility, of protecting these kids and it is really very sad. it makes me very sad. >> how do you get through the day, kyle? >> i pray every day that i didn't have to go back to school. and i go -- >> i pray every day you don't have to go back to school. >> yeah. i hide under the seats of the bus -- >> you hide under the seats? >> i would. and then i'd go to the nurse three times a day, at least. >> just to get someplace.
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>> yeah. to go home. >> to go home. i understand at one point -- how many kids did you know who were bullying? >> 40. >> 40 kids. >> yes. >> you could identify 40 kids. >> yeah. >> i want to thank you kids for your courage and your strength. i think you're just so impressive and so brave and i think you have tremendous courage. thank you. i appreciate it. yid interviewed kyle and i was talking to him, i said is there anything else you'd like to do or say? he said i would like too sing a song. he said that to me today whether he came and sat down here. he's like, can i sing? so kyle's going to sing his favorite song. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm on the right track baby i was born this way ♪ ♪ don't live yourself in regret ♪
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♪ just love yourself ♪ i'm on the right track baby i was born this way ♪ >> you got to love that kid. to find out more about bullying and some of the solutions, tune in to "anderson cooper 360" tonight at 8:00 and 0:00 eastern. top of of the hour, i'm suzanne malveaux. want to get you up to speed. it is day 24 for occupy wall street. protesters against the corporate and political machine are calling on parents to bring their kids to the rallies today for a firsthand look atonstrato lot of things, including pay
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disparity betwe disparity. from lower manhattan to city's coast to coast, politicians are now taking notice. >> it is class warfare. some of them are there because they don't have a job, yes. but the fact of the matter is, why aren't their jobs? go and picket the white house. demonstrate in front of the white house. >> when we said everyone should pay their fair share, the other side said that's class warfare. no, it's not. it's the most endearing american value, fairness. it is about everyone paying their fair share. the hackers who call themselves anonymous say that they're going to erase the new york stock exchange from the internet today. anonymous says that this move is in retaliation for the mass arrested of wall street protesters. a new poll shows that occupy wall street has more work to do to get the public in their corner. the survey from orc, an international caravan, shows that barely half of americans have heard of the movement.
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just 27% say they agree with the goals of the protesters. 19% say they don't. more than half say they just don't know enough about occupy wall street to have an opinion. crisis talks are happening in egypt today to head off new violence. fighting between muslims and christians left at least 25 people dead over the weekend. christians say they were peacefully protesting a church burning when they were attacked by people they describe as thugs. christians say egypt's military rulers aren't doing enough to protect them. live report from cairo is right ahead. the senate is expected to take up president obama's jobs bill this week. more than a month after he proposed the $447 billion emergency package. republicans plan to filibuster. and even if passed in the senate, republican leaders in the house have already pronounced the bill dead on
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arrival. a weak economy means weak demand. that is why it keeps getting cheaper to fill up your tank. the lundberg survey says that gas costs 25 cents a gallon less than just a month ago. the national average for regular now, $3.42 a gallon. almost a slam-dunk that now there is going to be no nba games come november 1st. commissioner dave stern says that if there's no deal to end the lockout today, he's going to cancel the first two weeks of the season. owners and players are deadlocked over salaries and revenue sharing. the nba claims most team owners lost money last season. back to the religious violence in egypt. the capital is reeling from the deadliest protest since president hosni mubarak was overthrown. our senior international correspondent ben wedeman joins us live from cairo. ben, you just got back from the hospital. tell us about what you are
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seeing regarding those who have been wounded or even those who have been killed at this point. where well, what we saw was more in the hospital in cairo was absolutely crammed with dead bodies. they had so many bodies they didn't have enough room in the freezer for them so they were laid out on the ground covered with ice. people were spraying them with perfume to keep the stench under control. now they were supposed to hand over the bodies to the authorities for an official autopsy, but because of the high level of mistrust between the coptic christians in cairos and the authorities they refused to do it. these clashes that took place sunday evening obviously have sent shockwave throughout the country. they are the worst violence since the overthrow of hosni mubarak in february. what's interesting is what we also saw at the hospital, there were muslims there -- in fact one muslim woman was holding the hand of a christian woman who
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had had a relative killed in the clashes and she was apologizing for the violence. one of the muslim women saying, yes, there are muslim fanatics, christian fanatics. this is the result of the policy of the old regime and they, muslim women, had gone there to try to heal the wounds that are obviously quite open at the moment. suzanne? >> what are people doing to make sure that this violence doesn't continue? >> reporter: well, some people say not enough is being done. now the government has deployed a lot of security forces around downtown cairo. they've imposed a 2:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. curfew. they're saying they will conduct an investigation into the violence to find out who is responsible. but the worry is in this city of 18 million people, where people are very easily whipped up into an emotional state, that it will be very difficult to bring things back to normal.
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one of the main accusations is against state-run tv which last night called upon what they called honest egyptians to come and protect the army and the security forces from coptic christian protesters. so it is a very electric atmosphere. tensions are very high in cairo this evening. suzanne? >> ben, if there's anything that happens, we will definitely get back to you but we'll see if that calm remains. but as you say, tension is very high there in cairo. thank you, ben. he called mormonism a cult. said mitt romney shouldn't be the republican presidential nominee. baptist pastor robert jeffress' controversy comments came at the values voters summit in washington that happened over the weekend. i got a lot of folks talking about this. so today's "talk back" question, should a candidate's religion matter. carol costello joins us from new york. we saw this with president obama, people had a lot of questions about his faith, what
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he believed, who his pastor was, how he actually celebrated or did not exercise his faith, whether it was private or public. i suppose this is what all candidates go through. yeah? >> you're right, suzanne. i mean you expected this, didn't you? mitt romney's mormon faith may now sink his campaign. conservative christians important in a republican primary never did embrace romney, or his faith. listen to what evangelical preacher robert jeffress said at the values voters summit. >> southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant denomination in the world, has officially labeled mormonism as a cult. i think that romney's a good moral man but i think those of us who are born-again followers of christ should always prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian. >> reverend jeffress was largely criticized for that remark, even kinda-sorta by herman cain.
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>> i'm not running for theologian in chief. i'm a life-long christian. i start with do the right thing. i'm not getting into that controversy. >> and this from a candidate who said he wants to add gospel beats to hail to the chief. let's face it, religion has always been a factor in other presidential campaigns. john f. kennedy delivered a speech in 1960 insisting his catholic faith would not interfere in his presidency. and, oh, wait, mitt romney delivered a similar speech in 2007 the last time he ran for president. he said do i not define my candidacy by my religion. imagine. if a jewish or muslim candidate goes for the gold. "talk back" question today, should a candidate's religion matter? facebook.com/carolcnn. i'll read your comments later this hour. here's the rundown of some of the stories up ahead. first, capsized off the florida keys. we'll tell you how people
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winning story airs later this hour. a fishing trip turns into a nightmare for eight people in the florida keys. they ended up spending saturday afternoon and all night in the water. about 20 hours total. after their boat capsized off the coast of marathon. most, but not all, had life jackets. sadly an 80-year-old woman drowned before rescuers could reach her. jacqui jeras will explain more about the conditions there. but first, i want to bring in officer robert dooney with the florida fish and wildlife conservation commission. you are investigating this boating accident. tell us what you know so far. there had been reports early that folks had actually been treading water. we're now learning that's not true. some had life vests, some did not. what do we know about what they were faced with when that boat went over? >> when the boat capsized and flipped over, three of the male
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subjects clung to the vessel. they was uprighted underneath the water. the son on the vessel tried to hold on to his 80-year-old mother with the sea conditions and the current could no longer hold on to him and she went underneath the water. fortunately enough the three female victims and the 4-year-old girl already had their life jackets on which pretty much saved their lives. they were out on the water in the sea conditions and storms and everything, over 20 hours. so that definitely could have been a lot worse situation down here in the keys. >> do we know about the 4-year-old, how that 4-year-old managed to get through 20 hours in the water? we know that the 4-year-old had a life prevever, the jacket, on. were they able to hold on to anything or -- >> they were clinging to a cooler. thank goodness. and the three females along with the child -- actually the child was in very good spirits. she was a little exhausted after
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the whole ordeal but according to our investigator that took all the witness statements said the daughter was actually the positive little one out of the group an they kept trading her around among the other three women holding her but she was actually in very good spirits. but she did receive some treatment at fishermen's hospital in marathon for mild hype p hypothermia, mild exhaustion and some bites from the jellyfish. >> you say they encountered jellyfish. they'd been bitten by jellyfish? >> yes. yes. four of them were treated and released there at fishermen's. had a lot of jellyfish stings which are common this time of year down in the keys. >> the three men you talked about, were they treading water? were they able to tread water for those -- >> no, they weren't treading water. fortunate for them they were able to cling on to the portion of the vessel that was sticking
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out of the water after it sank and which we advocate to stay with the boat at all times and pretty much probably saved their lives staying with the boat when a good samaritan, one of the local commercial fishermen guides, spotted the vessel, returned and with the three men clinging to the vessel which sent everything in motion to get more rescuers out there. that's when the u.s. coast guard rescued the female victims, the three ladies and small child. >> robert, hang with us, if you will. want to go to jacqui jeras in the weather center. first of all of, were there any warnings that this was actually going to happen, that this was going to come and what kind of conditions were they dealing with in the water if. >> we knew conditions were bad. we've been watching this area for a couple of days. we actually thought there was a potential for a tropical storm to develop and conditions were just terrible for these folks. this is the radar image. we'll take you through the 20 hours. there you can see, here's marathon. they were looking at showers and thundershowers on and off the entire time. so there were lightning strikes.
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wind gusts easily around 50 miles per hour. as thee strong winds moved in as well, that created some very tremendous waves. we saw some reports of seas anywhere between eight and ten feet throughout the area. now water temperature is a big issue. we just heard that they had some mild hypothermia. hypothermia is when your body temperature drops below 95 degrees. you think to yourself, well, this is the florida keys, even this time of year that water's very warm. well, it is. it's roughly somewhere just below 80 degrees is what we think. but when your body's in water for that amount of time it starts to cool down quite a bit. so when the water temperature is between 70 and 80 degrees, hypothermia exhaustion and unconsciousness can set in within just 3 to 12 hours. so when you look at all those things together, suzanne, it really is amazing that these people made it out of there alive. >> unbelievable. thank you very much. really appreciate it. federal prosecutors are now cracking down on what has been
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called a culture of corruption in health care industry. medicare and medicaid patients are being overbuiilled or bille for treatment they never even received. deb feyerick has the story of a vietnam vet who exposed a major case of fraud. >> reporter: going through his medicaid statements one day, richard west realized he was being billed for nursing care he wasn't getting. you weren't even here on some of the days that the company alleged they provided services for you. >> i wasn't here. i got no service. >> and yet here it is. it's billed. >> reporter: the 63-year-old vietnam veteran suffers from muscular dystrophy and requires nurses seven days a week just to shower, dress and replace the oxygen tank he needs to breathe. yet when he called the medicaid hotline to report maxim health care services and complain his nurses were either leaving early or not showing up at all, he was told he was wrong.
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>> they were getting paid for eight hours and i was just getting sicker and sicker and they did nothing. >> reporter: his spirit intact, the former u.s. infantryman hired a lawyer and filed a whistle-blower lawsuit in 2004 triggering a six-year criminal investigation. are you surprised at just who people will try to do to rip off the medicaid system? >> yeah, i'm surprised every day. >> reporter: tom o'donnell heads new york's office of investigations for health and human services. it turns out maxim, with hundreds of offerses, wasn't just overbilling richard west, but medicaid recipients across the country. >> probably the most egee just thing that they did was they were overbilling and they were fraudulently altering the time cards. >> how much money were they essentially ripping off? >> i think the actual amount was about $61 million. >> prosecutors recently
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announced they'd reached a deal with maxim health care services which cooperated with investigators and is now restructured under new management. >> none of us can afford our government's coffers to be blddyed by fraud. >> reporter: the company will pay $150 million, half to reimburse 41 states that were overcharged. nine maxim executives and employees have pleaded guilty to various charges. others were fired for misconduct. in a statement to cnn, maxim's new ceo plaiz prairaises richarr uncovering the fraud, saying the company takes full responsibility and has established a new infrastructure, "including an entirely new senior management team and an unrelenting commitment to strict compliance with all laws." although prosecutors did not accuse maxim of compromising patient care, west says he almost died twice because of life threatening infections he got when nurses failed to show. >> there were nights i didn't know if i would wake up, and
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that's the reality. >> because west exposed this scheme he's said to get $15 million under the whistle-blower's act. that means he could end up paying for his own health care an likely lose the medicare benefits for which he was initially fighting. deborah feyerick, cnn, new york. inside the world of fashion and fantasy from almost three decades. carl lagerfeld has been the creative force behind chanel. alina cho met the man behind the logo. look, every day we're using more and more energy.
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paris, the birthplace of fashion, and chanel's carl lagerfeld, one of the high fashion's biggest names. alina cho was backstage at paris' fashion week and has a rare conversation with the elusive icon. >> reporter: not just in france, but around the world, carl lagerfeld is mobbed wherever he goes. he's not just a celebrity designer. he's a celebrity. why do you think it is that people are so fascinated by -- >> very good question. i don't know what it is. it is a strange thing. you know? i think it is flattering. i don't sing. i've not an actser. i have no scandals. >> reporter: he does do this.
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lagerfeld's chanel show is arguably the most anticipated fashion spectacle of the paris collections. something he's been doing at chanel since 1983. when he was hired as artistic director. >> i was asked to do it, chanel wasn't trendy at all. like this, if you can make something, okay. if not, i sell it. huh? and we made something out of it because he gave me total freedom. >> reporter: lagerfeld answers to no one. rare for a company the size of chanel, a rarely owned $200 billion busy that sells not just iconic handbags, and ballerina flats. perfume -- you know, chanel no. 5. the won mayor are inmonroe famously said she went to bed with.
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an icon, just like the company's founder -- coco chanel. >> it has an image but it was up to me to update. but i never did. she would have hated it. >> reporter: lagerfeld made chanel cool again and it can happen at any time. in addition to his duties at chanel, he's the creator at fendi, has his own label and this season launched a line at macy we and an avid photographer, author and owns a book store. outside of fashion, lagerfeld has designed bottles for coca-cola and here is he in an ad for a washer and drier. >> i am a walking label. huh? my make is not layingerfe enot. >> too many people forget what i did. forget it all and start again. >> reporter: even at twice the age of his competitors, it is an attitude that served him well,
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made him rich and virtually irreplaceable at chanel. >> in fact it is a good thing for him, it is a good thing for me and it is not such a bad thing for fashion. >> for the bebest lost look at fashion had to offer, the backstage pass from paris airs this saturday, october 15th, at 2:30 p.m. eastern. no more tanning beds for californians under 18. but is it even a good idea for adults? information on your odds of getting skin cancer from fake bakes.
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here are some of the stories we're working on. next, california becomes the first state to ban tanning beds for those under 18. then, fox host bill o'reilly criticized the federal government for serving what he says are $16 muffins. did that really happen? the truth-o-meter puts his statement to the test. later, any child of the '90s will remember, right? pop-up video. thought-bubbles with those fun facts. well, they're back again. don't expect to see as many
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folks, young people, in hollywood with those fake tans. some of them overdo it, some in the movies we see. remember this zpreen "thescene "there's sbg mary." reality tv star snooki is known for her constant tan and now california has a new law that makes it illegal for anyone under 18 to use tanning beds. the concern is the health risks that tanning beds pose. we've asked our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen to weigh in on how dangerous they can be. first, are they dangerous? and are there differences here? >> i mean this is a no-brainer. every dermatologist, the national cancer institute, everyone says stay away from tanning beds. so whether it comes to kids, which is who california is acting -- is telling to stay away from these right now, for a kid, if you start using tanning beds before the able of 30, you increase your risk of skin
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cancer by 75%. just starting to use it before the age of 30. >> it is more dangerous than just being out in the sun? >> not necessarily. it sort of depend where are you when you're out in the sun and how much time you spend in each place. but you have to be out in the sun. right? you have to be out in the sun at some point in your life and you can use sunscreen. there's no reason to be inserting yourself into this kind of cancer causing device. there's just no reason to do it. >> are kids at any more risk of greater risk of getting skin cancer by using these beds? >> they are. you may have seen kids who get these like blistering sun burns. a blistering sunburn as a kid more than doubles your risk oti. >> what about tanning for adults? >> also not safe. the nci, national cancer institute, is very clear -- avoid tanning beds. we're even told that snooki is now going for tan i sprning spr
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three-quarters of women and one-third of men who have aged out of foster care receive benefits like food stamps and housing assistance. it is a tough cycle to break. >> veterans and young people leaving foster care are the two largest pipelines to homelessness among young adults in this country. >> reporter: for those young adults who age out of the system suddenly being on their own can be difficult. >> right now i'm actually looking at any job that's hiring at the moment. i just need to be financially stable at the moment. >> reporter: tom hilliard is the author of a new study on employment and former foster children. these kids, he says, need mentoring and jobs programs. >> any tee ateenager who gets into a difficult work situation could just say to heck with this and then walk out. but what if you knew that you were going to be taken care of and nobody was going to say a word to you about it? well then you're a lot more likely to walk out, aren't you? raven profit says mentors she met in her early teens put her
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therefore driving up prices. there's some truth to this. we talked to some experts who said, yes, it was a factor but it was just a factor and in fact the gas prices had been going up before arab spring. so we rated this half true on our truth-o-meter. >> all right. let's talk about michael moore, independent filmmaker. he was asked about protesters at wall street being arrested. he said, "not a single banker, a ceo from wall street, anyone from corporate america, nobody there was not one arrest of any of these people who brought down the economy in 2008." what did you find? >> we gave that one a mostly true. he's right. if you look at all the major wall street firms, we could find no evidence that there were any arrests or charges filed against the major wall street firms. we did, however, find a few arrests, particularly one mortgage company in florida. so we ended up giving that a mostly true. his underlying point was correct but there were some arrests.
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>> okay. this one was from fox host bill o'reilly on comedy central's "the daily show" last wednesday. he said the federal government hosted a conference, and, quote, ordered 250 muffins at $16 a piece. is that true or false? >> this one gets a mostly false. this of course is a talking point many of us have heard a lot, that the government is overspending for things like muffins. $16? well, when you read the report, it's true that the report does refer to $16 muffins, but if you dig into it, you canse to the a event that there were some other things purchased. there was tea and coffee and some other things, as well as the cost of the meeting space at the capitol hilton. so it is misleading to say that the muffin cost $16. it was invoiced that way but the muffin itself didn't cost that much. so mostly false. >> okay. the muffin came with a lot of other things, right?
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>> exactly. exactly. of course that's what the truth-o-meter's all about, putting things in context. >> all right, bill. thanks. we appreciate it. as always. we like to hear from you. today's "talk back" question, should a candidate's religion matter? tyler says, look up the definition of a cult. a as a leader of a christian faith, you should not be judging others. practice what you preach. more of your responses next.
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you've been signing off on today's "talk back" question. should a candidate's religion matter? carol has your responses. what are folks saying? >> varying responses.
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this from nick -- no, no, no! i would much rather see a candidate who didn't have a religion than one who bases their political views off of their religion, off their religious commitments. our fournding fathers didn't have this problem, therefore no political candidate should ever have this problem. julia -- yes, a candidate's religion does matter. i believe it always has given voters a perspective on that candidate's morals and values. that should definitely be taken into consideration for the elections. this from irene -- some politicians proudly point out that religion gives them a moral compass. fun funny, because their compass seems to navigate them toward bigotry and hate. and this -- if freedom of religion is truly protected in this country, it shouldn't matter at all. i'm a christian but i'm more concerned with how the next president will handle the economy and jobs. this from owen -- if a candidate's religion matters to you, look to other countries like iran an afghanistan where
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hard lessons are be learned from religion in politics. keep the conversation going -- facebook.com/carolcnn. thanks as always for your comments. >> great feedback there. carol. we got another story here from -- did you watch modern tv in the '90s? >> pop-up video. >> you already knew. somebody told you about that. yes. pop-up videos. all right. so for a while, they weren't around and those little factoids that come up with the music video on vh1. christine romans has a report about the ten-year break and now they're back. so watch this. ♪ >> reporter: bieber's "love life." kinks "middle school smoking spot" and a rejuvenated theme song. after a ten-year hiatus, pop-up video is back. debuting in 1996, pop-up video
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offers nuggets of trivia and behind the scenes information on top of music videos. it was an instant hit and now with ten years' worth of new music videos to pop, it's creators have a lot to work with. >> there is plenty to mine. we haven't hit o-town, we haven't had every "american idol" contestant, winner, loser, so the time is now. >> reporter: slotted for 60 new episodes, pop-up video has mined 300 fresh music videos from amy winehouse to cold play. when word got out, music industry types were lining up. >> everybody wants to be on this show. even though they may take a few hits, i think everybody knows it's like being on "saturday night live" or being a guest on "south park" or "simpsons." >> reporter: the landscape has changed a lot since pop-up video went off the air. facebook, twitter, we almost live in a pop-up world. with information on demand, audiences' attention span is not the same and pop-up plans to
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play to that. >> i think we're at an age right now where hopefully this is more of a jumping-off point where we tell a story on top of a popular video and then we throw it out to the community and the community pops it themselves. >> reporter: christine romans, cnn, new york. >> carol, i think that's why we're multi-taskers. while we're so good at that, you can watch and follow things, then start reading stuff all those little factoids. right? >> suzanne, is a twin. i knew that! >> i don't know. >> i hope that's not on me. >> oh, wait a minute. what's that one? we work together at competing d.c. stations. i like that one. >> we did! we did. >> we did. you at wrc, me at wjla. >> yeah. >> suzanne always won. >> i was going to say i always won. >> in the '90s. >> then you beat me to it.
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they're probably going to have to speed these things up now a lot faster. what's that last one say? did i miss one? carol loves the detroit tigers. >> yes! and they play tonight, 4:00 p.m. eastern! >> i see it. i got that one. yeah. when do they play? >> what's that one say? >> suzanne doesn't even know detroit has a baseball team. they totally dissed me, carol. that is so true. they really called me out on that. let's see if this catches on. we might do this for each one of your segments, see what happens. people will be facebooking and tweeting you all the time. you'll double your friends, i'm sure. >> i would love that. >> you told us what you'd like to see, your "choose the news" story is next. ♪
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navy's ships under the golden gate bridge. also this video, pretty cool. famed blue angels also there to help celebrate fleet week. go away! ahh! >> i feel sorry for her. this news producer decided to investigate reports of turkeys chasing people in a sacramento neighborhood. so yeah, they started chasing her. the only thing the birds don't seem to chase are the mail trucks. going to save that for the dogs. check out what a homeowner in manchester, new hampshire found. this in his swimming pool. it took nine police, some firefighters, wildlife officials to pull out -- yep, that's right -- it's a moose. a big moose in the pool. no harm done. so you voted for today's "choose the news." the winner, cheapest computer in the world. small. why so cheap? here's cnn's sara seidner. >> reporter: now computers are
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getting cheaper and cheaper but this is crazy cheap. ind industry's ministry of education has announced it's come up with the world's cheapest computer and this is it. we got a sneak peek at this little gadget here. it is about seven inches so it's smaller than an ipad. it has two usb ports here. it also has an hd screen so you can watch videos, for example. what the ministry has done, because obviously it is the education ministry, it has uploaded some applications in here so that you can actually watch for example a lecture. this is a lecture from one of india's very prestigious schools, one of their iits. so students can use it for all sorts of things. basically anything that you can do on a computer, typing your notes, sending an e-mail, you can do on this little gadget. the hd screen is nice because again you can watch different things, including movies if you so like, on this computer. one of the things with this is that basically you have to have
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wi-fi in order for it to get a signal, in order for you to be able to get online. so that's one thing that people might have a bit of an issue with. the other thing is that some of the touch screen technology is a little bit difficult. you have to be a bit forceful to try and make it work. it is not as sensitive, for example, as an ipad. however, we are talking about a device that does just about everything you could imagine a computer does, except for the fact that it is only about $50. so a lot more people could afford this. now initially the ministry says that it will be handed out to students given as a textbook would be given. so this will be something that students can access and have a hold of, especially if they don't have much of an access, for example, in their dorm rooms. to computers, they'll now have one that fits in their bag. eventually hoe, as you might imagine, with technology that's so inexpensive, you will imagine that private companies will pick this technology up and try to go out there and sell it. all

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