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another child sex scandal at a major university, syracuse stunned by allegations. a former ball boy coming forward. the making of a terrorist. an afghan terror group releasen never before scene video inside a training camp. a dry run for a gruesome and deadly attack. clashes with the cops. rage against the banks. a major show of force by occupy wall street protesters in new york and across the country as demonstrators mark the two-month anniversary of their cause on this "american morning." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com oh, good morning to you. happy friday. my favorite day of the week. it's notch 18 -- besides saturday and sunday, of course. >> that's what i love about you.
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>> i can't help it. ale a has the day off. i'm carol costello along with christine romans. welcome to "american morning." let's get started with new allegations of sexual abuse at another major university. this time it involves assistant men's basketball coach bernie boeheim. alina cho is with us. >> reporter: good morning. you can bet penn state did have something to do with why this is coming out now. syracuse university associate men's basketball coach has been placed and administrative leave and police in that city have reopened an investigation into disturbing allegations. fine seen here allegedly molested two former ball boys including bobby davis, now 39 years old. davis told espn's "outside the lines" last night the abuse started back in the 1980s. >> probably when i -- you know, sixth grade, 11, 10 years old,
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and he started trying to touch me and things like that, you know. and honestly, i don't even remember if i thought that was what was supposed to happen. you know? i know i cringed up and didn't want it to happen and was very, like, what's going on? i just remember it being, disgusted in a sense, but that's when everything -- when he started to touch me, my privates. >> davis says the abuse took place at fine's home. syracuse basketball facilities, even road trips including the 1987 final four. the reason why this is coming out is because there is now a parent cooperation. a second alleged victim has come forward, and he is davis' older stepbrother, mike lang. he said fine touched it him inappropriately back had he was in the fifth or sixth grade. >> when he first did it, he
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would move away and didn't want to say anything, because, you know, you didn't feel like you were capable of saying anything. he's a gd to you you know? he can do whatever he wants, but not with me. i didn't feel right about it, and i told him that, bernie, please don't do that to me and then he'd do it again and again, and -- >> now, the first alleged victim, bobby davis, meanwhile, says he first alerted syracuse university officials about six years ago back in 2005. university said it immediately launched its own nearly four-month investigation and that everyone else involved denied the story and syracuse police decided not to pursue the case because the statute of limitations had expired. in a statement released last night, syracuse university said in light of the new allegations and a syracuse city police investigation, they asked dr. daryl grose to place associate head coach bernie fine on
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administrative leave and jim boeheim released a statement saying bernie has my full support. fine has been part ever the syracuse basketball program for some 35 year. it's the longest streak of consecutive seasons in convince 1 men's basketball and fine was inducted into the greater syracuse hall of fame just last month. a lot of people may be asking, is it just a coincidence that the older stepbrother is now coming forward to corroborate the story? mike lang's second alleged victim says that, no, he saw what was happening to jerry sandusky at penn state and decided now was finally the time to come out. meanwhile, the head coach of syracuse says, it's a bunch of 1,000 lies that he has told. you don't think it's a little funny that his cousin is coming forward? he says that he believes these victims are now coming forward again because they want money. either way, obviously, explosive allegations. >> interesting to know more details of the story. i know we don't have them all,
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but -- because he's a stepbrother, right? did they discuss it as children? now that they're adults, his p stepbrother went to police -- >> assumed he went forward before going to cnn. >> initially -- >> that's this time around. >> it is unclear whether they spoke about it. nonetheless it is, as i mentioned, explosive. >> the statute of limitations. has had really run out? why is syracuse city police now investigating when they wouldn't investigate all those years ago? >> they said because of the statute of limitation, now because there is a parent corroboration. another victim coming forward, they have decided to reopen the investigation. so, they are looking into it. >> thanks, alina cho. we're also learning the alleged sexual abuse by former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky may have stretched for decades. they're representing more potential victim, some claiming
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abuse that dates back to the 1970s. our susan candy odd candkand cae in state college, pennsylvania. >> reporter: good morning. every since jerry sandusky was released on bail 13 days ago. prosecutors said they would expect more possible victims to come forward and they have. many lawyers are telling cnn they have been getting phone calls and having meetings with other people who say they, too, they claim, that they were raped and molested by jerry sandusky. now, many of these people are tell telling the lawyers they were angry, and that's why they came forward after hearing sandusky's denial one many called disturbing and angry by suggestion of sandusky's lawyer, perhaps many of coming forward simply because they want to try to make money from this. in the meantime, the wall of
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secrecy continues on the part of penn state with, as more people want to learn more about what went on during the years leading up to the arrest of jerry sandusky and all of these resignations that have been happening. by contrast, the high school where alleged victim number one attended here in this area has been credited by authorities for at least once they heard about this allegation for reporting it very quickly to police, however, the mother of that alleged victim said she also was not too happy with the school about them allowing sandusky to bring her boy out of classes to meet with him privately, where he was acting as a volunteer coach, and she also said that the principal of the school told her she might want to think twice, even though the principal was disturbed by the allegations, about the mother coming forward, because, after all, the principal told the mother, that jerry sandusky has a heart of gold. well, we went to the school to try to get more answers from them. we didn't get them. take a look. i'm susan candiotti from cnn.
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>> may we help you? >> reporter: you may, thank you very much. i'm here today because you're sealed out for praise, actually bishgs, i don't need to tell you, by the pennsylvania attorney general and as well as by the grand jury for the school's quick action in responding to allegations of abuse. we would very much like to talk to you about that, but also to the principal, of course -- also talk about some other questions that i'm not sure whether you're aware that have come to light. thank you. this is from your lawyer. is that mr. -- >> no, ma'am it is not. >> reporter: is that the prim? >> no, it is not. and that's our statement and we would like to ask you to, please, leave at this time. we're just about to dismiss school and we don't want you in amongst the students. >> can i leave my card for the principal? >> yes, you can. >> reporter: thank you. may i ask who you doctor doctor obviously you work at the reception desk. assistant principal? >> ask her if --
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>> reporter: may i ask just who you are? >> guidance counselor. thank you. can you speak with us, also. >> no. >> reporter: do you know, the mom had also said that -- that she was told at first you might want to think twice about doing this, because jerry sandusky has a big heart. >> ma'am, we would ask that you refer to this statement and on the advice of our attorney, we're sharing that with you and then we ask that you leave at this time again. our students are just about to be dismissed. >> reporter: and we were escorted out of the building by a security guard who also made us leave the property in its entirety. what they left us with was a pre-written statement saying that they are not going to comment about this investigatio cooperating with police, but many people want more answers. we sought them. didn't get them. >> oh, but you tried. susan candiotti reporting live from pennsylvania.
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thank you. all right. in new york city, recuperating from occupy wall street. clashes got bloody. protesters lifting barricades, blocking traffic and subways. one officer was cut by a flying object at zuccotti park. in the end, around 245 protesters were arrested. live in zuccotti park, our report. good morning, amber. >> reporter: hey, good morning, christine. right ow here at zuccotti we're seeing about a dozen diehard protesters standing and sitting in the park. the majority of the protesters who used to live in the park before being evicted this week are telling me they're staying at churches and homeless shelters and then plan to proceed to continue to protest, but police say they don't expect today's protest to be nearly as large as yesterday's when thousands gathered here in zuccotti park. we saw several clashes with police. especially in the park over the barricades. the protesters were upset
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because the barricades are keeping them from putting up tents and tarps, and one of the most dramatic videos that came out of a park was of a 19-year-old man with a bloody head after friends say police tackled him when he was trying to remove some of the zuccotti
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and what people say are several incidents of police violence. >> that 19-year-old with the bloody face, crying out almost. image people with the movement are saying, look at this. look what happened. we'll ask for questions about that as the morning goes on. thanks so much, amber. new this morning, he thought president obama was the antichrist. the man accused of firing shots at the white house now charged with trying to asas sass assass the president.
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oscar ramirez is heading back to washington to face charges. authorities say the man who was obsessed with president obama took two shots at the white house late friday night. one bullet cracking a window at the first family's living quarters while the president was away. gop presidential candidate herman cain will be getting protection from the u.s. secret service. the department of homeland security approved the request. none of the other gop candidates currently have protection. and on "american morning," the president making big news on his trip to indonesia, something that hasn't been attempteded in nearly a essentially. 30 years later, new questions surrounding the drowning death of actress natalie wood. homicide detectives have reopened the case. [ ben harper's "amen omen" playing ] we believe doing the right thing never goes unnoticed. liberty mutual insurance.
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and welcome back to "american morning." it's 17 minutes past the hour. president obama is in bali meeting with ind nee indonesia'
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president and making big news. sending secretary of state hillary clinton to myanmar next month. the first visit by a secretary in more than 50 years. brianna keilar is traveling with the president in bali this morning. tell us more, brianna. >> reporter: hi there, carol. this is a significant move of reaching out to myanmar. what has been one of the world's most authoritarian regimes. when you listen to white house officials emphasize some of the moves towards reform that the government has made. for instance, relaxing restrictions on political opponents in the media and the october release of about 200 political prisoner, they're also insistent this doesn't mean that the u.s. is poised to establish diplomatic relations or to lift sanctions, and i talked to secretary clinton about this just a few hours ago here in bali. >> we have no interest in any hostile action. what we are looking toward is the role that the united states
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can rightly play. we're a pick power. we always have been, and we, over many years, because we're also an atlantic power, built of you a transatlantic architecture of alliances and relationships, and we're working to do the same, and we really welcome everyone to be part of that. >> reporter: as the president flew from darwin, australia to his stop here in bali, indonesia, he called aung san suu kyi, the leader of myanmar democracy movement, to talk about this plan. he asked for secretary clinton to go to myanmar next month, run it by her and see what she thought about some of the reforms and if the u.s. could be of help trying to push myanmar in this direction. we know she will meet with the president as well. >> brianna keilar, thank you. a horrific police beating caught on tape. if that's not enough, wait until
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you see what officers are accused are doing afterward. and the republicans on the attack. recapping that hostile hearing ahead.
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welcome back. "minding your business" this morning, a shorp drop in stocks after a shaky session on wall street concerned about europe's debt problems. asian and european stock markets all down now. u.s. stock futures flat at the moment. we're watching spanish bond yields. up to that critical 7% level. the level at which other countries had to seek international bailouts. it means that it's more difficult, more expense ib, for the spanish government to borrow money.
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spain insists it will not need a bailout from the eu, helping push down the yields this morning a little bit. watching all the bond yeeds for signs of strain in europe. talk about gold rush. the world's gold council says investors in europe bought gold bars and coins in the third quarter. that's up 135% from a year ago. investors have been seeking the security of gold because of the instability of the eurozone. and filing for a $100 million ipo. yelp, the first step to become a company. no word on shares and which stock exchange it will exchange from. if you're hitting the road for the holiday season, for thanksgiving in particular, be prepared to pay more at pump. gas prices are expected to hit record highs this thanksgiving. a gallon of regular will average about $3.37. up nearly 50 cents from last thanksgiving. it's just one week from
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group known for ambush-style tactics take us inside a terror training camp on this "american morning." and welcome back, everyone. good morning. it's 28 minutes after the hour. time for the morning's top stories. police near syracuse university say they're looking into claims that the school's assistant -- associate, rather, men's basketball coach bernie
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fine sexually assaulted at least one boy in the beginning of the 1980s. fine is now on administrative leave. the basketball coach says fine has his full support. 245 people arrested as wall street protesters flooded the streets, packed the brooklyn bridge and tried to shut down the new york stock exchange yesterday. the two-month anniversary of the movement. president obama in bali and meeting with the president this morning. the president making big news during his visit announcing a diplomatic visit to myanmar. the first visit by a u.s. secretary in more than 50 years. disturbing new video of appears to be the taliban training getting ready for one of the most brazen attacks to date. suicide bombers and gunmen took over kabul's intercontinental hotel in june. 11 people were killed. now a new video showing drills, tactics and planning. cnn nick paton walsh is live in kabul and has the pictures.
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good morning. >> reporter: these are remarkable ammage ag itcmages ty wants us to see. it seems to show a new level of tactics and preparedness. one of the most brazen attacks to hit kabul. in june a government conference at the intercontinental hotel was attacked by a suicide squad who killed 11 others. it took special forces, healths and a drone to suppress it six hours later. president karzai holds a vital meeting about america's presence here, but now cnn gained a unique inside into how that raid was planned. the taliban have posted online a lengthy propaganda video they say about the seven men behind that attack. this is a display, what they
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want us to see of their skills and planning. cnn can't prove its genuine, only that it shows how sophisticated their message and media are after a decade of war. an ambush somewhere else seems to let insurgents steal military uniforms. one hotel attacker speaks of his wish to die. my message is, lie is too short, he says. he will die are cancer or a car accident. if you want god's blessing, be a suicide suicide attacker. leer we think only the faces of the dead are visible in front of a model of a hotel discussing tactics. those viewing machine guns and rocket propelled grenades he said get on the roof and use it as a control tower so the enemy can't enter easily. then there's footage of the attack itself.
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in a war about perception of victory, the taliban have an incredibly sophisticated voice. one more important thing about these images. they could be the first we've seen of the network, getting increasing attention, accused of having pakistani backup and sanctions. behind me many of the sophisticated attacks in capital recently here, rarely video the all ap but said to be behind that attack on the hotel. while the itch images don't say they are the haqqanis, is could be the first glimpse to date how they appropriate. >> nick paton walsh reporting live this morning. thanks, nick. l.a. homicide investigators are taking another look at the mysterious death of hollywood actress natalie wood. in 1981 wood drowned while boat wig hess hearse robert wagner and actor christopher walken.
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they've been contacted with witnesses with new information. a news conference is scheduled for laters this morning. all right. a hostile hearing on capitol hill. steven chu putting on a tough face during testimony. a loss of more than half a billion dollars in taxpayers' money. jessica yellin reports. >> reporter: the topic, green energy. the tone, fiery. the committee's top republican. >> it is readily apparent that senior officials in the administration put policy ahead of the stewardship of taxpayers' dollar. >> reporter: and the top democrat. >> the majority today as evidenced by my colleague's opening statement has focused on firing partisan broad sides at the obama administration. >> reporter: with the soft spoken secretary steve chu in the hot seat. >> they were palestine and i made them with the best trets of the taxpayer in mind.
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i did not make any decision based on political considerations. >> reporter: for republicans, that was far from satisfying. >> who is to apologize for the half a billion dollars that has been, that's out the door? >> well, it is -- extremely unfortunate of what has happened, but if you go back and look at time the decision were being made, was there incompetence, was there undue -- any influence of a political nature? and i would have to say, no. >> so no apology? >> well it is extremely unfortunate what has happened to solyndra. >> reporter: their charge, the energy department did not properly vet solyndra, a company president obama later touted as a true engine's economic growth, and once it started to fail, put up more taxpayer dollars, but let private investors get preferential treatment if the company went bankrupt. >> do you feel that you owe people an apology for having
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supported the taxpayer dollar for what now turns out to be a very risky venture? >> reporter: they have ideas of their own. >> house republicans and their coal and oil allies are manufacturing a scandal, trying to discredit you, president oba obama, and clean energy companies. that's a great deal if you're an oil company or a coal executive, but it's unfair to you and a disservice to the american people. >> reporter: he was also grilled on the latest charge, that solyndra officials were asked to withhold news of layoffs until after last year the mid-term election. the energy secretary said he had no knowledge of this until e-mails came to light this week. jessica yellin, cnn, washington. the president of connecticut's largest utility company is stepping down. jeff butler, the head of connecticut light and power, has been under fire since the freak blizzard that slammed into the
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northeast last month. the storm knocked out power to hundreds of thousands of residents of connecticut. it took nearly a week, in some cases, weeks before power was restored. rob marciano is off today. he's rocking a baby, i think. brand new baby for the marcianos. we have great pictures we'll brick up. >> i told her, we'd do video first. the best picture of all. let's show you the -- you see rob, erin, and in the middle, madeleine. born 7.13, what she weighs. just an absolute beautiful baby. rob, i know, is tired, as is erin. as an experienced father i can tell him, rob, you think you're tired now, just wait. >> i know. he said erin is recovering. dad is a wreck. >> absolutely. understandable. >> erin looks great in that picture. >> she looks fantastic. >> i think after 20 hours of labor, actually, she did a great job. >> she looks fantastic, though.
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>> amazing. >> like superwoman. >> happy times for the marcianos. hey, rough time for travelers. show you the forecast quickly. looks like some of the biggest issues out towards the west. san francisco, showers. major delays there. also, new york, boston, chicago, st. louis and miami, delays just under an hour. the big weathermaker we have is out towards the west. a mammoth storm that will rip its way across back into the central rockies. heavy snow, strong winds. low visibility. into parts of portland, oregon. video to show you proving our point the snow has been pretty significant there. not just in the valley or downtown portland, it will kick up towards mt. rannier, the cascades and eventually into the rockies where it will be a skiers' paradise once it moves out. coupled with strong winds. some wind gusts topping, say, 50 miles an hour. keep that in mind. back to the weather maps.
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a big storm system out to the west. in the center, back to the east, absolutely beautiful. plenty of sunshine for the gulf coast. parts of the northeast, rounding things off, wrapping it up with 58 in boston. 60, memphis. 50 in kansas city. and 57 in san francisco. that's your forecast. again, congratulations to the marcianos. just a beautiful thing to see. >> oh, it is. thanks for sharing. we appreciate it. >> thanks. brand new look for major league baseball. the houston about 'strusouston the national to the american league evening out the leagues to 15 teams apiece. and the stanford football team is shattering stereotypes. don't call them dumb jocks. the team is ranked number ten in the nation. top ten in the nation and their school is ranked top ten in academic. more on why stanford is winning on and off the field. that's coming up.
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22 minutes past the hour. welcome back. new developments in the penn state child sex abuse scandal pap new accuser is coming out and an attorney tells cnn there could be up to ten more victim. jason carroll has the latest from state college. >> reporter: i spoke to an attorney who says he has received more than ten calls from people who say they were victimized by jerry sandusky. he's formally resting o inrepre
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one man saying jerry sandusky started sexually molesting him in the early 1990s. listen to the conversation i had with him about the allegations. >> i can tell you there's that received and in every instance sandusky used his position of trust and power and his caring ways as a coach and mentor to groom the families and the children, and after he did would in some way act out on them. either at the schools, at the events, on trips, and a variety of locations, and in some instances, he raped or assaulted them on one occasion and in some instances it's multiple. as it pertains to penn state, as soon as the revelations came
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forth that there had been what looked like a cover-up or several victims, several victims started to make calls. realizing they weren't alone, and we took those calls, and we're giving them support, and then as soon as sandusky gave the interview in which he denied the sexual abuse, the numbers of contacts that have been made with us in our office have really ratcheted up dramatically. >> reporter: i also want to point out that i did have a conversation with jerry sandusky's attorney earlier this week, add ond one of his concer was any associated with sandusky early on might now want to come out and try to take advantage of what's happening by claiming to be a victim. but having said that, jeff anderson, the attorney there, who you just heard from, told me that he feels as though these new allegations are, in fact,
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credible. >> jason carroll reporting. also new this morning, explosions and gunfire reported across syria. saying at least 13 people were killed by security forces yesterday. army defectors in northwestern syria also reportedly attacked a pro-government youth group office. a new radiation scare in japan. the country banning the shipment of rice from farms near the fukushima daiichi nuclear plant. the plant was the site of a nuclear meltdown in march. authorities say they found an unacceptable amount of the radioactive element cesium in a summer of rice from a field near the fukushima plant. a police beating in albuquerque caught on tape, but that's not all. an officer tackled a man suspected of car theft. a second officer runs up and starts kicking the suspect, stomping him in the head more than a dozen times. the beating is finally over but watch the right corner of your screen coming up. nair. they did a chest bump. the officers were reportedly
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celebrating. both officers have been fired. a florida school bus driver breaking the golden rule of the road caught texting while driving a bus packed with students. this surveillance tape shows the driver fumbling around with her phone, taking her eyes off the road several time. school officials suspended her for one day. passengers onboard two charter jets hid up for cash mid-flight during a lay jover from india to britain. ordered to pay $ 200 for fuel, for gas, so they could continue their trip. most had to get out of the plane and go to an atm in the airport. one flier said it felt like they were in a hostage situation. the charter company and owner of jets are blaming each other for miscommunication. whoa. >> we've had our airline complaints, nothing like that. 46 minutes after the hour now. stanford university has plenty to cheer about. ranked in the temperature ton
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men's basketball coach bernie fine is on administrative leave this morning after two former ball boys accused him of inappropriate touching back in the '80s and '90s. the team's coach, jim boeheim, says fine has his complete support. 245 people arrested from occupy wall street. they tried to shut down the new york stock exchange yesterday. president obama in bali meeting with indonesia's president this morning. the president announcing secretary hillary clinton will be visiting myanmar next month. that's the first such trip in 50 years. gop candidate herman cain is getting protection from the u.s. secret service. the department of homeland security has not released a reason for granting protection, but many past presidential candidates have received it, including barack obama. l.a. homicide detectives reopened the investigation into the death of actress natalie wood. it was ruled she drowned off the coast 30 years ago after a night
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of partying with husband robert wagner and actor christopher walken. there's new information in the case. and actress demi moore and ashton kutcher are divorcing. he sent out a twitter message saying he will cherish the time he spent with demi. that's the news you need to start your day. "american morning," back after a break.
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welcome back. there's at least one college football program making the news for what it's doing right. stanford's team is shattering stair yore types you won't see any dumb jocks on their field.
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the school ranks top ten in football and academics. casey wian reports, they intend to keep it that way. >> reporter: a tailgate party by chandelier light before stanford university's crucial football game against the oregon duck. there's duck sausage on the grill and pride in stanford's lofty academic and football rankings. >> fun to be a stanford football fan. legitimate student athletes, great character players. >> a change culturally here that allowed them doct-- >> reporter: many remember a time in the not too distant past only a handful show up to tailgate gotail p g tailgate before a game. look at this pap true college football celebration. but did stanford ease its strict entrance program to turn around a game that won one game in 2006 yet won the orange bowl last year? >> not in the least.
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we have the smallest delta between the regular and student population and in all of collegiate athletics and stanford is not about to make compromises who comes to this university. >> reporter: many credit the team's former coach who left for the nfl last year. >> a wonderful recruiter. >> went in for kids that were winners. >> reporter: parents say coach, doing a better job reaching out nationally to high school students, telling them what studentses to take to qualify academically. >> i use my son. he came after his junior year, told him what he needed to do 20 get in here and be academically eligible. >> reporter: his son is catching passes and majoring in science and technology. >> highly competitive enstrirmt and our peers are the very best teams around the country, and you can have the best of both worlds. >> reporter: stanford football players are not just having success if college. 17 alums are now playing in the national football league. over there, the quarterback, number 12, andrew luck, is
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expected to be the first player chosen in next year's nfl draft. before the game we met alan smith a former offensive tackle who's working at a hedge fund, while preparing for the arena football league to keep his nfl dream alive. >> able to attract athletes that want to be the best at everything. not only athletics, also in the classroom. >> reporter: stanford's football team boasts an 87% graduation rate and is one of only four major college programs without a serious ncaa violation since 1953. the organize, game turned out to be stanford's first loss of the season. still, the team appears headed to another major bowl game and then, of course, back to class. casey wian, cnn, palo alto, california. stanford is one, if a family makes less than $100,000 a year, if you got the grades, can get in, they'll waive tuition.
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student aid, complete student aid packages for family so money shouldn't be a reason if you can't get into stanford if you're smart enough. >> keep your grades up. it is possible. a new protest in new york city. a small group of heartbroken ryan gosling fans gathered outside "people" magazine headquarters. look at them. just like occupy -- not really. anyway, these people braved the rain. they were wearing gosling masks, you see there. revolting against the manage seine's decision to honor bradley cooper as this year's sexiest man alive. clearly they say gosling's abs alone should have earned him the title. and also, bradley cooper doesn't have a dog. gosling has a really great, big, cute -- shows his softer side. >> i love that. occupy "people" magazine. looks like stephen colbert is in this, too. >> what makes you laugh?
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observing life. life is comicing. people tripping and falling. oh, sounds like a nice guy. hey, guys, come quick. bradley cooper tripped nana and she fell. and he's laughing. oh, how sexy. look at nick nolte. he was 1992's sexiest man and look at him now. still sexy. >> i knew he was going to show that, that unfortunate mug shot of nick nolte. >> unfortunate, but funny. he looks much better now. in a new movie. i forget what it is. ahead in the next hour of "american morning," occupy clashes with the cops. protests getting bloody in new york city. we'll talk way former nypd official how police handled the enormous crowds. ♪
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an assistant coach put on leave, and two ball boys coming forward. and alleging abuse by jerry sandusky and the victims claiming the abuse dates back decad decades. and herman cain under protection. getting his own security detail courtesy of the secret service. and nearly 30 years later, new accusations surrounding the homicide of natalie wood. investigators have reopened the case on this "american morning." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning, everyone. friday. carol's favorite day of the week. november 18th. welcome to "american morning." >> good morning. up first, up allegations of sexual abuse at another major university. this time syracuse. >> this time it involves assistant men's basketball coach bernie fine. all on the heels of the child sex scandal, of course, at penn state. alina cho joins us live with
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this. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. syracuse university associate men's basketball coach bernie fine has been placed on administrative leave and police have reopened an investigation into disturbing allegations of sexual abuse. fine, seen here, allegedly molested two former ball boys including bobby davis, now 39 years old. davis told espn's "outside the lines" the abuse started back in the 1980s. >> probably when i was, you know, sixth grade, 11, 10 years old, and he started trying to touch me and things like that, you know, and honestly i don't even remember if i thought that was what was supposed to happen. you know? i know i cringed up and didn't want it to happen. i was very, like, what's going on? it was just -- i just never -- disgusted in a sense. you know. that's when everything, when he
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started to touch me, my privates. >> davis says the abuse took place at fine's home, syracuse basketball facilities even road trips including the 1987 final four. part of the reason this is comi comingous, there is apparent corroboration. a second victim has come forward. davis' older stepbrother named mike lang, now 45 years old. he was also a ball boy for syracuse and told espn's "outside the line" fine touched him inappropriately in the fifth or sixth grade. >> when he first did it he'd move away and you didn't want to say anything, because you didn't feel like you were capable of saying anything. you know? he's a god to you. you know? or he can do whatever he wants, but -- and that was me. i didn't feel right about it, and i told him that. bernie, please, don't do that to me. and then he'd do it again and again. >> the first alleged victim, bobby davis, says he first
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alerted syracuse university officials about this six years ago, back in 2005. the university immediately launched its own four-month investigation, and that everyone interviewed, everyone else involved, denied the story. and syracuse police decided not pursue the case, because the statute of limitations expired. now in a statement released last night, syracuse university said "in light of the new allegations and the syracuse city police investigation, this evening chancellor cantor asked director of athletics dr. darryl grose to place associate head coach bernie fine on administrative leave." late last night coach boeheim released a statement saying, "bernie has my full support. part of the basketball program 35 years. the longest streak for an assistant coach in division i basketball. also inducted into the sports hall of fame just last month and around syracuse known at the
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king of syracuse. one of the victims says he thought of him as a father figure and as a god. a lot of people are asking this morning, is it just a coincidence that the stepbrother is now coming out? the university and the head coach is saying they believe that it is, at least the head coach. he is saying he believes the victims are coming forward now because they want money. he said he has known bernie fine more than 40 years. had he seen anything inappropriate he would have taken action. interesting about this story, i think, in addition to all of the allegations, carol and christine, is that the university response and the coach response, far different and far more forceful than that of penn state. so we'll have to see what happens. we're obviously watching closely. >> we'll talk more about this, for more of the news out of syracuse we turn to the author of "friday night lights "and a columnist. his latest piece on newsstands now. good morning. >> good morning. the similarities are eerie.
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another assistant coach, coaches for some 39 year, taking kids to games and tournaments. is that where the similarities end? what do you make of these allegations? >> well, this is a much murkier case, although having watched davis on tape, listening to him, it is the same m.o. as sandusky. great power. father figures and take advantage of kids, but both espn and the syracuse post standard did do their own investigations into the early 2000s and could find no one to corroborate davis' story. that's not necessarily unusual. a lot of victims are revuluctan to go forward. anyway, they didn't write anything. on the surface it can be bizarre. syracuse did a lot more on its own to try to get to the bottom of it. had their own police doing an investigation, however, i don't think university police are really that capable of doing extensive investigations.
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they're mostly good at finding kids roaming the campus drunk. the thing that bothers me most. typical closing of the ranks. typical -- >> before you go on let me bring to people what coach boeheim said. he's pretty furious about the allegations, you're right. he told espn, why wouldn't he go to the police first this time? why go to espn? what are people looking for here? i believe they're looking for money. they saw what happened at penn state and are using espn to get the money. that's what i believe. >> well, he did go to the police, the city police, and was blown off by the city police. a detective said, look, kid, it's beyond the statute of limitations. there's nothing i can do. bayhome boeheim is wrong there. the program is not necessarily clean, and in the early 1990s, put on two years' probation for
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recruiting improprieties. the same thing. boeheim, i didn't know what happened. you know what happened. you're the head coach. boeheim doesn't know what happened. he has no idea if the victims are going tore money. this is what people always say to try to discredit victims, which are why these cases are hard to prove. granted, this one is murky, but boeheim should have simply said, this is a tragedy. were you don't know whatted. i support bernie but it must go forward as an investigation, much like the university. instead he sounds like -- a mafia figure. >> geez. you've written an article, your new article in "newsweek" how they can prevent these allegations, what are some tips you have for universities to prevent this sort of stuff from happening? >> well, you know, preventing this kind of child sexual abuse is difficult. you know? are you going to have to put guards in the showers? i mean, some people suggested
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that, and i thought, that's ridiculo ridiculous, but maybe not. i don't know how you're -- if it's true, i don't know how you're going to prevent these coaches from preying on kids. they're very, very powerful father figures. you're 9, 10, 11, 12. you've heard of jerry sandusky. you've heard of bernie fine. you look up to them, and these guys use the same m.o. they give gifts. they take them on trips. they lure them in, which makes it very difficult for these kids to separate when alleged sexual child abuse begins. the key is, college sports is a monster and it has to be contained. the reforms, both long-term, granted, complicated, and short-term. so students, who aren't athletes, are getting something out of it. because now they're paying for it. >> do you think we'll see more victims coming forward? you know, accusing other university officials across the
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country of these terrible crimes? >> yes. that's always a concern. that's a concern. i did think about that with davis. i said, why are you doing it now? are you running in on the coattails of sandusky? as i say two very reputable news organizations investigated this, one cannot corroborate. and went forward because of the cover of sandusky. i worry other victims will come out, the stories will be murky and it will dilute. the absolute seriousness of the sandusky case. i've said this 1,000 times. public is skeptical, take ten minutes, read the 23-page state grand jury report, and then decide. >> it's an awful read. really tragic. >> awful. >> thanks for joining us this morning. appreciate it. all right. also we're learning the alleged sexual abuse by former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky may stretch back decades. several attorneys tell cnn they're representing more potential victims. some claiming their abuse dates
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back to the 1970s. susan candiotti is live in state college, pennsylvania, and, of course, susan, the real issue here is how many people have been inspired by other people going public and now telling their story for the first time and whether defense will say, look, these are all people trying to jump on the bandwagon and get in money. that's what the core is here. >> reporter: that's what we're hearing. good morning, christine. yes, through their lawyers, these additional potential victims are saying the reason they've come forward is they were angry after hearing jerry sandusky's denial, which many people called disturbing on many different levels, but also because his lawyer has also suggested that these people are coming forward because of financial reasons. these potential victims say they deny that, but there is still this whole wall of secrecy surrounding penn state, and what led up to all these revelations? by contrast, there's a high school here where alleged victim
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number one attended. he came forward. prosecutors praised that school for at least reporting the allegation to police as soon as they heard about it, but we also have some rather disturbing revelations from the mother of the alleged victim number one about the school. shep said that while the principal, for example, felt badly about the suspicions, the principal sutd edsuggested to t mother she might want to think twice because he said jerry sandusky had a heart of gold. here's what happened when we went to the school to try to find out more. i'm susan candiotti from cnn -- >> may i help you? >> reporter: yes, you may. thank you very much. i'm here because you were singled out for praise, i don't need to tell you, by the pennsylvania attorney general and as well as by the grand jury for the school's quick action responding to allegations of abuse. we very much would like to talk to you about that, but also to the -- to the principal, of
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course -- also talk about some other questions that i'm not sure whether you're aware that have come to light -- thank you. this is from your lawyer? is that mr. -- >> no, ma'am it is not. >> reporter: is that the principal? >> no, it is not. and at this time we gave you the statement and would like to ask you to, please, leave at this time. we're just about to dismiss school and we don't want you in amongst the students. >> reporter: can i leave my card for the principal? >> sure. >> reporter: thank you. may i ask who -- obviously you work at the reception desk. assistant principal? >> she wants to -- >> may i just ask who you are? guidance count counselor. thank you. can you speak with us? >> no. >> reporter: also it was said that, the mom said she was told as first you might want to think twice about doing this, because jerry sandusky has a big heart. >> again, ma'am, we would ask
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that you refer to this statement and on advice of our attorney, we're asking that you leave now. >> reporter: no answers in. we were simply given a statement and shown the door by a security guard. the statement reads in part mainly that because of the nature of this ongoing investigation, the school district has nothing more to say. other than to add hethey're cooperating with authorities. the backdrop against all this, the football program goes on. big game this weekend against ohio state. so a lot of people are trying to concentrate on that, but it's obviously impossible to forget about everything else that's going on. christine? >> right. susan candiotti, thanks. still to come this morning, after three decades, police reopened the investigation into the death of hollywood legend natalie wood. those details ahead. put the rumors to rest. demi moore and ashton kutcher are officially calling it quits. coming up, both stars speak out on the split. you're watching "american
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a hostile hearing on capitol
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hill. steven chu putting on a tough front during five hours of grueling testimony yesterday. he did not apologize for the failure of solar company solyndra or the loss of more than half a billion in taxpayer money. jessica yellin reports. >> reporter: the topic was green energy, but the tone was fiery. the committee's top republican -- >> it is readily apparent that senior officials in the administration put politics before the stewardship of tax pace o taxpayers' dollars. >> the majority by the statement focused on firing partisan broadsides at the obama administration. >> reporter: with steven chu in the hot seat. >> the final decisions on solyndra were mine and i made them with the best interests of the taxpayer in mind. i did not make any decision base and political considerations. >> reporter: for republicans, that was far from satisfying. >> who is to apologize for the
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half a billion dollars that has been -- out the door? >> well it is -- extremely unfortunate what has happened to solyndra, but if you go back and look at the time the decision was being made, was there incompetence? was there undue -- any influence of a political nature? and i would have to say, no. >> so no apology? >> well it is extremely unfortunate what has happened to solyndra. >> reporter: their charge, the energy department did not properly vet solyndra, a company president obama later touted as a true engine of economic growth. and once it started to fail, put up more taxpayer dollars, but let private investors get prefer rebel treatment if the company went bankrupt. >> do you feel that you owe people an apology for having supported using the taxpayer dollar for what turns out to be
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a very risky venture? >> reporter: driving this, there is political motives of their own. >> house republicans and their loyal industry allies are manufacturing a scandal trying to discredit you, president obama, and clean energy companies. now, that's a great deal if you're an oil company or a coal executive, but it's unfair to you and a disservice to the american people. >> reporter: he was also grilled on the latest charge. that solyndra officials were asked to withhold news of layoffs until after last year's mid-term elections. the energy secretary said he no knowledge of this until e-mails came to light this week. jessica yellin, cnn, washington. 19 minutes past the hour. let's head to atlanta to check in with reynolds wolf. good morning. >> good morning. no delays as of yet. that's for now. later on that story will change considerably. we expect it to change out towards the west. in fact, look at the map. san francisco's going to be the spot where we may have major
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delays. over an hour. may want to throw oakland in there as well. the eastern seaboard, possible delays, because new york, boston, the wind, up to about an hour. some places less, chicago, st. louis. miami, showers and the wind may cause an issue. miami, precipitation relatively light. the opposite in the northern rocki rockies. intense area of low pressure pupping in moisture from the pacific. heavy snowfall expected in central portions of the rockies, portions of the coastal range. not only the snow, also strong winds and gusts possibly into 40 to 50 mile-per-hour range. low visibilitialities an issue. you have a big ice storm in parts ever the pacific northwest into the rockies, unless you're a skier. fantastic there. the rest of the nation, beautiful conditions across the southeast. the great lakes and even into the central and southern plains. high temperatures, very comfortable. mild in spots like dallas, houston, 60s and 70s. 56 your high in kansas city.
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46 in minneapolis. 41 in portland. 59 in los angeles. back east we go. atlanta 56, 78 miami and tampa. 48 for boston. 46 in new york and washington, d.c., the high into the mid-40s. that's your forecast. i understand you guys got some interesting news to deliver? don't you? >> yes. >> certainly do. >> how about that? >> yes. we're introducing you to the newest member of the cnn family. madeleine grace marciano. >> there she is with her mom and dad. beautiful. rob marciano is a new dad. she entered the world yesterday. rob said erin is recovering, and he is a wreck. >> i can't believe how good erin looks. you go. and making big news on the president's trip to indonesia. and amp three decades, police reopened the investigation into the death of hollywood legend natalie wood. more details for you ahead. congratulations.
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welcome back. "minding your business" this morning, a slarp drop in stocks after another shaky session on wall street concerned about europe's debt problems. asian and european stock markets are all down right now. u.s. stock futures, though, are trading higher at the moment. we're watching spanish bond yields. they were up to that critical 7% level yesterday. that's a level at which other countries had to seek international bailouts meaning it's mo difficult and expensive for the spanish government to borrow money, but spain insists it will not need a bailout from the eu and that insistence is helping push down bond yields a
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little bit this morning. american retail icon gap struggling. profits dropped 36% in the third quarter and sales down 6%. banana republic and old navy are also owned by the gap. the company will open more gap locations temporarily for the holiday season. black friday, one week from today, and the national retail federation estimates that 152 million people will be shopping those sales this year. that's up 10% from a year ago, and proof that the retail machine is in full force to get you to spend your money. and the honda civic natural gas taking home the green car journal's green car of the year award at the l.a. auto show this week. this is the fifth generation of this model praised for great fuel efficiency and roomy design. retailing for about $26,000. for the very latest news about your money check out the new cnnmoney.com. "american morning" will be right back after this break.
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welcome back. it's 30 minutes past the hour. top stories this morning -- police near syracuse university are looking into claims the school's associate men's basketball coach concebernie fi assaulted at least one boy in the 1980s. the university's head basketball coach jim boeheim says fine has his full support. more trouble ahead for former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky. several attorneys tell cnn they're representing more potential victims and they claim april bus stems back to the 1960s. and meeting with indonesia's president. making big news announcing a diplomatic mission to myanmar. the first visit by a secretary of state in more than 50 years. brianna keilar is traveling with the president in bali this morning. tell us more. >> reporter: obviously, a very
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significant reaching out to myanmar which has been one of the world's most authoritarian regimes, and you hear white house officials stressing some of the moves towards reform. sort of a removing some of the restrictions on political opponents and the media, the october release of about 200 political prisoner, but at the same time, those same officials stressing that this visit doesn't necessarily mean that the u.s. is poised to lift sanctions or to establish diplomatic ties, and just a few hours ago i had the chance to sit down with secretary of defense hillary clinton here in bali. >> there has been some forward movement, and in this part of the world, we have examples of countries that did finally get on a democratic path after a authoritarian regime, military dictatorships, all of the problems that have been around for a long time. so we're hoping most certainly for the people of burma, that
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this is real, but, you know, if it is, the united states will support and encourage it. >> reporter: now, president obama called the leader of the burmese democracy movement, aung san suu kyi as he was flying on air force one from darwin, australia here to bali to talk about his plans to have secretary of state hillary clinton visit, and we know when she is there next month, when secretary clinton is there next month, she'll meet with aung san suu kyi and with the president, thain sein and other leaders. >> you asked about china's reaction to the president's announcement of increased military presence in the pacific region. what did she have to say about that? >> reporter: right. i asked her if especially with the u.s. emphasizing so much its economic interests and also clearly making its military interests known with this new announcement that we saw while
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we were in australia, would thissen understood to be taken by china by snag could be seen as a threat in its backyard? here what she said. >> we have no interest in any hostile action. what we are looking toward is the role that the united states can rightly play. we're a pacific power. we always have been, and we over many years, because we're also an atlantic power, built up a transatlantic architecture of alliances and relationships, and we're working to do the same, and we really welcome everyone to be part of that. >> reporter: so secretary clinton saying that they really shouldn't see this as a hostile presence in their backyard, but at the same time, carol, you can't ignore the subtext. china has been somewhat more aggressive making claims on the oil-rich south china sea which sees most of the world's
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maritime commerce. valuable shipping lanes moving through there and certainly the u.s. wants to emphasize its presence in the region as well, but rhetorically we've seen secretary of state hillary clinton and president obama d m deemphasizing thing s with chin. and working to trim money from the nation's deficit. after two months of negotiating, some lawmakers fear there's little progress. can the super committee pull it off? joined by super committee member in washington. good morning. nice to see you. >> good morning to you. >> the deadline is next wednesday. you know that better than anyone. 78% people polled don't think you'll get a deal by then. by the end of the weekend, can that happen? >> right. time is running out. i can say we are leaving no
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stone unturned. negotiations and discussions continue, and we're looking to find a way. we recognize what's at stake and we're hoping to reach an agreement. >> can you just give me a little glimpse -- we've been throwing around numbers. hundreds of billions. $250 billion in revenue. can you tell us what the process looks like? are you all in a room with blackberries turned off, ordering pizza, negotiating -- can you tell me what it's like? >> sure. there were times when there were 12 in the room trying to find a way towards a solution. more recently i think the talks have been taking place through what i would call shuttle diplomacy. trying to find ways to bridge the differences. as you know, the democrats put a substantial professional posal table and then republicans put their ideas on the table. recently they appear to have dug in on their position, and what we're trying to do now is bridge those differences and there was some progress in that area, but
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let's see if it turns out to be real. >> what we're talking about here, big issue, tax increases and entitlement reform. yesterday the democratic co-chair of the committee, senator patty murray, said you guys have met republicans offer on revenue. what does that mean? $250 billion in tax increases? >> well, that's right, and the issue is how you package that. the republican proposal says this -- if we did nothing, if the super committee did nothing, come the end of next year, folks at the very high end would go back to paying the rates they were paying during the clinton administration nap would raise about $800 billion. republicans have said, whoa. we do not want that to happen. we're prepared to say $250 billion of that will be taken essentially, but they want to lock in $550 billion in breaks for the folks at the top and the price for doing that is to
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reduce the rate to 28% which will actually increase the burden on middle income americans, and reduce it at the high end. >> we're still talking about the bush era tax cuts. basically, this is the big thing you guy, arguing over wlaer it's going to look like. republicans are insisting keeping it in place. are you prepared to make changes to entitlements if republicans can make move on the revenue side? >> well, we are. in fact, we've put on the table a number of proposals to reform the medicare system, to change some of the incentives. to improve the coordination of care. what we will not do is end the medicare guarantee, which is what the republican house budget would have done. it would have said you can no longer be in the medicare system. you have to go into the private insurance market, and by the way, declined value. >> would you raise retirement age? americans want to know how all of the super committee stuff will change their life.
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would that be a consideration here? >> i don't think that's a good idea right now, because we don't know for sure whether or not the people turning 66, for example, will have an alternative in place. that is one of the purposes of the affordable care act, but as we know, we don't know for sure whether that would be in place. we'd probably found out from the supreme court. i should say on the revenue piece, as you indicated. we have matched their number, but what we've said is, we want to achieve those savings by closing a lot of corporate tax loopholes and asking folks at the top to pay a little bit more, not locking in tax breaks for those individuals, which is what the republican proposal would do. >> so those big sticking points -- >> again, we are trying to bridge these differences. >> all right. >> let's see if we can do it in these last hours. >> okay. congressman vchris van hollen. thank you. a couple more days. >> then thanksgiving hits.
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>> the world is watching. they don't want to go to the wire. not at the last minute unity. >> still to come this morning, we'll hear from the other side of the aisle. republican pat toomey weighs in on the super committee debt talk. thae that's next. and herman cain is getting protection from the u.s. secret service. details on that ahead. after 30 years the mysterious death of a hollywood legend is getting a second look. you are watching "american morning." it is 39 past the hour.
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we just spoke with democratic representative chris van hollen about the looming deadline for the debt super committee. there's only five days left to figure how to cut $1.52 trillion from the nation's deficit. now let's bring in republican senator and super committee member pat toomey to weigh in. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> pretty good. we just heard from congressman van hollen where he stood on the negotiations, and if he thinks a deal can get done. what do you think? >> i think it's still possible. it's not going to be easy. time is running short, but time hasn't run out yet. so we're here. we're working. we're talking.
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it's difficult, but still possible. >> so when you say you're working, senator toomey, are you guys in the same room? democrats and republicans together or negotiating in separate areas, in sort ever a shuttle diplomacy thing going on? >> both. all of the above. individual conversations. large you know -- larger group conversations. we're interacting in a variety of ways trying to find a way to see if we can get something pulled together. >> when was the last time the democrats and republicans were in the same room negotiating together? >> many of us from the committee were in the same room together yesterday evening. so -- i don't know. 12 hours ago. >> was there any movement at all? because we're hearing that it's not likely a deal will be reached. >> well, i think it's too soon to draw that conclusion. we still hope we'll be able to get something done. we're still working on it. >> are we really stuck again on entitlement reform and the bush
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tax cuts? >> well, those are certainly the two big pieces. you know, when i approached this from its very beginning, i always thought one of the obligations ever this committee would be to do something that would be good for our economy and job growth. tax reform is the big, obvious opportunity. avoiding this massive tax increase that's coming at us that my democratic colleagues want to have happen, i think that's a real problem. and this isn't just us talking. every bipartisan commission that has looked at the deficit problems we face, rivlin, domenici, simpson and bowles have all says it needs to come in the context of pro tax reform that lowers rates and special interest deductions. that's one of the things we've sutted g esuggested we do. great for the economy and deficit reduction.
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make the code simpler and more fair. that's a specific piece but the real driver is excessive spending. too much spending. programs that are structurally flaw and need fixed. >> let's talk about that. could democrats ever give enough on entitlement reform you would be willing to give up some of the bush era tax cuts? is there a compromise in here somewhere? >> i'm not sure why we should harm the economy to do the right thing for entitlements. let's do something good for the economy. by the way, lots of democrats agree that simplifying the tax code and low aring marginal rates and getting rid of special interest maevers favors is good. it will result in new jobs. why do damp to the economy to do something on the entitlements? that's never made sense to me ip want to do the right thing for the economy and the right thing for our long-term sustainability. >> when you ask the american
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people, most, you know -- hol after poll shows that most of america wants there to be higher taxes on the wealthiest americans in the country. poll after poll show -- are the american people completely wrong about this? >> depends how you ask this question. but the reality is, the proposal we've put on the table would actually ask wealthy people to pay a little built more in tilu taxes. it happen in a better, simpler tax code, one with marginal rates. we've recommended reducing deductions and write-offs and credits to the point it would actually generate revenue for deficit reduction. my democratic friends acknowledged this. the problem, they want to take all that and then they want an $800 million tax increase to occur in addition to that. that's terrible for the economy. >> talking again about the bush tax cuts and allowing them not to expire. just lastly, on a scale of one
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to ten, what number would you place, ten being the best, one being the worst, on whether a deal will be struck by the deadline? >> you know, i've never been a gambler and never made any money in a casino. i'm not going to put a number on it, just tell you we're going to stay at it. keep working. i think it's not too late and i really hope we'll be able to reach an agreement. >> are you working through the weekend? >> yeah. >> okay. that's a good thing. thank you very much. senator toomey, we appreciate it. >> all right, thanks for having me. the whole point of the super committee that number is supposed to be a ten. everybody thinks that number's a ten. because congress couldn't do it, these are the people who are going to do it and the fact we're eving saying will you, won't you, can you, can't you? wow. that's -- >> i know. >> something. all right, also new this morning, gop nominee candidate herman cain is getting protection from the secret service. the department of homeland security hey not released a
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reason for granting security. many past candidates have received it, including president obama. he thought president obama was the antichrist. the man accused of taking shots at the white house now charged with trying to assassinate the president. 21-year-old oscar ramiro ortega hernandez making his first court appearance. he heads back to washington to face charges. and a new investigation into the death of actress natalie wood. she drowned 30 years ago after a night of partying with husband robert wagner and actor christopher walken. her death ruled an accident. the sheriff department now has additional information about that drown. demi moore/ashton kutcher, divorcing. moore released a statement saying she decided to end her six-year marriage to kutcher. kutcher tweeted he will cherish the time spent with demi. still ahead, the baby bust. why some couples are holding off on having baby number two and today's "romans'
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ten minutes until the top of the hour. here's what you need to know to start your day. syracuse university bernie fine son administrative leave after two former ball boys accused of
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inappropriate touching back in the '80s and '90s. the team's head coach says fine has his complete support. new accusers may be coming forward in the penn state child sex abuse scandal. the lawyer telling cnn we could see alleged victims give details of alleged abuse dating back to the 1970s. the president of connecticut light and power is bowing to public pressure and he's stepping down. jeff butler sucused of mismanaging the response to last month's blizzard. hundreds of thousands of residents spent over a week without power. so long, reg. regis philbin is leaving "live with regis & kelly." after 28 years, it was simply time to move on. you're now caught up on the day's headlines. "american morning" back after a short break.
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all right. the morning's romans' numeral and number in the news. the number is $1,500. it's an annual cost to how much it will cost you every year if you're changing your baby's diaper six times a day. that's according to diapermakers who say sales slipped 1% in august compared to the same time last year. >> i wonder why. >> maybe because we're having few kids. procter and gamble says people are potty training their kids earlier to save cash. >> just to save cash? >> well, i'll tell you, those toddler diapers you can buy diapers up to 5 years old now, i know, look, they see a big market there. but people are starting to potty train earlier because it is more expensive and diapers are only one major expense for parents. formula, clothes, room and board. that's why having a baby today
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is as much about money as it is about love and biology. finances are a big reason why some couples are holding off on baby number two or deciding against babies altogether. meet one pennsylvania couple wondering whether to have another baby because of the economy. >> do you want to go get some toys? >> reporter: laurie and ryan want to have another baby. >> you get married and everybody is like, when are you having a baby? it's not always that easy. >> reporter: the economy stands in their way. >> two would scare the heck out of me. child care costs times two. >> reporter: the couple spends $11,000 on child care for olivia, she's 1 1/2 years old. ryan, a detective gets extra income working at his family's business but laurie's job is a major factor in the family planning. >> did you get the letter back in the summertime? >> reporter: 14 to 22 people
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were laid off at the child care association where she works. laurie isn't sure she will have a job come january. >> i'm 39 now and so there's a window and so that window closing while the job window closes at the same time or potentially will close, it's a little unnerving. >> reporter: no question women are already waiting longer to have kids and they're having fewer of them. in 2010, 4 million babies were born in the u.s. down from the peak of 4.3 million in 2007. dr. jack has delivered about 3,000 babies. >> you're going to cost $250,000 by the time you're 18. >> reporter: $226,920 to be exact, according to the government. that's up more than $60,000 from ten years ago. >> there's no doubt that the economy matters in having children. it hazmatered throughout history. in the depression it went down and in other recessions it went down and in boom times, it goes up. >> reporter: the recession is
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technically over, but for most people, it doesn't feel like it. >> couples are telling me that. that the economy is tight and having a kid, it is a great expense positive i think a bigger expense up in your head than in reality. but, still, people think about kids in college and education and all the costs involved. they're right. they're seeing the moment right now, how could we ever do this? >> reporter: women think they can't afford to have a baby, but for many, they can't afford to wait. >> it's a biological clock. >> you can't wait for the economy to recover. >> the stock is up, stock is down. the stock in the egg is always going down basically every year we get older. >> can you say thank you? >> reporter: right now they remain a family of three. >> if we can add another one, great. if that doesn't happen then, we're not going to be any less happy for what we have. >> that's one cute baby. >> i keep looking at olivia thinking, that is one cute baby. my bet, i don't know. i don't know if they agree with me, by bet is they go for it.
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we'll see, i'll keep you posted, everyone. just ahead in the next hour. got loud and violent at times. is it time for "occupy wall street" to get political. we'll debate that next. 30 years later homicide investigators are taking a new look at the drowning death of actress natalie wood. we'll tell you into the cnn time machine for a live report from november 1981. you're watching "american morning," it's 57 minutes after the hour. ♪
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a a child sex scandal rocks another major university. a gop presidential candidate now under protection. herman cain will be getting his own secret service detail. homicide detectives looking into the mysterious death of a hollywood legend. new questions surrounding the drowning death of actress natalie wood. a new movement in new york,
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just call it "occupy sexy." small group protesting against "people" magazine. we know, we know, on this "american morning." good morning to you. happy friday. it's november 18th. welcome to "american morning." >> let's begin with a new child sex abuse scandal at another major university. this time, syracuse university. >> the man accused is a long-time assistant basketball coach. alina cho joins us live with more details. >> associate plen's basketball coach bernie fine has now been placed on administrative leave and police in that city have reopened an investigation into disturbing allegations of sexual abuse. fine, seen right here, formally molested two former ball boys including bobby davis, who is now 39 years old. he told espn outside the lines the abuse started back in the
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1980s. >> probably when i was sixth grade, 11, 10 years old. and he started trying to touch me and things like that. you know, honestly, i don't remember if i thought that was supposed to happen. i know i cringed up and didn't want it to happen and i was very like, what's going on? i just never, being disgusted in a sense. but that's when everything, when he started to touch me my private. >> davis says the abuse took place at fine's home. syracuse basketball facility, even road trips, including the 1987 final four. now, part of the reason this is now coming out is because there is now a parent cooperation. a second alleged victim has come forward. he is davis' older stepbrother. his name is mike lang and he is 45 years old. he was also a ball boy for syracuse university and he told espn's "outside the lines" fine
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touched him inappropriately back when he was in the fifth or sixth grade. >> when he first did it, he'd move away and he wouldn't say anything because, you know, you didn't feel like you were capable of seeing anything. you know, he's a god to you, you know. he can do whatever he wants. not with me. i didn't feel right about it and i told him that. bernie, please, don't do that to me. then he'd do it again and again. >> the first alleged victim, meanwhile, bobby davis said he first alerted syracuse university officials about this six years ago back in 2005. the university said it immediately launched its own four-month investigation and everyone else involved including the assistant coach denied the story and syracuse police decided not to pursue the case because the statute of limitations had expired. now, in a statement released last night, syracuse university said "in light of the new allegations and the syracuse city police investigation, this evening chancellor cantor asked
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director of athletics daryl gross on administrative leave." bernie has my full support. now, fine has been part of the syracuse basketball program for 35 years. that, by the way, is the longest streak for an assistant coach in division i men's basketball. the 65-year-old was also indicati inducted into the greater syracuse men's hall of fame just last month. obviously, many, many questions about this case. you spoke to a guest earlier who said the details even at this early stage seem murky. a lot of questions about why the older stepbrother is coming forward. is that just a coincidence or something more here? the head coach of the university says he believes it's a fabrication. he believes they are out for money. meanwhile, that second victim, mike lang, says he gooded issed
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decided to come forward after all these years because of what he saw at penn state, because of jerry sandusky. very interesting case. lots of similarities here. but, again, very early. we'll wait and see what happens. >> we'll see what syracuse officials come up. we're also learning that the abuse by jerry sandusky may have taken place for decades. they're representing more potential victims, some claiming abuse that dates back to the 1970s. susan candiotti is live for us in state college, pennsylvania. good morning, susan. >> good morning, carol. one lawyer, in particular, tells cnn that he is representing one new alleged possible victim. and says that he has spoken to at least ten other people who alleged that they, too, were raped or molested by jerry sandusky. many of these people telling the lawyer they are coming forward after hearing sandusky's denial on nbc earlier this week. the lawyer spoke with cnn's jason carroll.
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>> there is a pattern that has emerged, not only in the folks that are engaged us, but the cause that we received is that in every instance sandusky used his position of trust and power and his caring ways as a coach and mentor to groom the families and the children. as soon as sandusky gave the interview in which he denied the sexual abuse, the numbers of contacts that have been made with us at our office have really ratcheted up dramatically. when you hear sandusky, you really get a glimpse into the mind of the molester. >> now, penn state continues to to refuse to release documents about earlier investigations into jerry sandusky. now citing that it is exempt
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from doing so, penn state could release those documents if it chose to do so. we're also getting road blocks from the high school where alleged victim number one attended. now, that is where sandusky worked as a volunteer football coach. the grand jury states that sandusky was found, for example, late at night in a wrestling room lying face-to-face with his alleged victim. the mother also had some other concerns about the school that the boy was allowed to be taken out of class, she says. now, we tried to find out more from the school, but they weren't talking. take a look. >> susan candiotti, from cnn. >> may i help you? >> yes, you may. thank you very much. i'm here today because you were singled out for praise by the, i don't need to tell you, by the pennsylvania attorney general and as well as by the grand jury for the school's quick action in responding to allegations of
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abuse. we'd very much like to talk to you about that, but also to the principal, of course. also talk about some other questions that i'm not sure of you are aware came to light. thank you. this is from your lawyer. is that the principal? >> no, it is not. at this time we made a statement and we would like to ask you to please leave at this time. we're just about to dismiss school and we don't want you in and amongst the students. >> now, he is the football coach at the school. they only released a written statement to us saying that because of the ongoing investigation, they were declining comment. however, the school did say that it is cooperating with the police. but it's pretty hard to shake what's going on in this town. a lot of secrecy. people still afraid to talk. feeling at times that they're being intimidated from doing so. back to you. >> i know you'll keep trying, though, susan candiotti reporting live from pennsylvania this morning. word out of washington this
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morning, they might not be able to get it done. the so-called supercommittee running out of time to find a way to cut $1.2 trillion from the nation's deficit. some lawmakers saying a deal may be out of reach. they had 2 1/2 months and now they're down to five days. joining us now state of the union host candy crowley. you can argue, they actually had years. there are numerous commissions and reports that have looked at america's burgeoning debt deficits. are they going to get this done this time? >> doesn't look like it. but, here's, that's the bad news. it doesn't look like it. the committee members i have been able to talk to have been less than enthusiastic about their chances of reaching an agreement that would reach $1.2 trillion in mixture of spending cuts and revenue increases. but here's the good news, because of the way capitol hill operates, the deadline really is a good thing to have because they tend to work right up against it.
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a deadline, especially when it comes right before a holiday. tends to really promote some sort of agreement. now, this really is such a huge philosophical divide between the two sides here that it seems unbridgeable at this point. it seems that they may just wait for an election to see if they can get some clear direction from the american public. but as you well know, the markets may not want to wait until election and the american people certainly don't want to wait until an election. but right now, certainly, it looks a little grim, but, again, deadline pressure on congress is one of the things that nearly always works to break through an impas. >> we also know taking it right down to the deadline took us to a debt downgrade, quite frankly. the rest of the world wants to see we have bridged these great divides to know that we're serious about getting our debts under control because we're watching italy and spain and watching other countries that have gone too long. in the end, a lot of talk in the
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very beginning that supercommittee was nothing more than a mini me congress that would have the same problems and wouldn't be able to break through all the clutter of 535 members and deal with what the big congress couldn't deal with it and it was a mini me. >> sure, again, they are reflecting the two parties who have very different philosophical approaches to what's wrong with the economy and how to bring down that deficit. i mean, what are the two big things? the two big things are how far would you go to make cuts in the so-called entitlement programs? medicare, medicaid, social security. and what are you going to do about raising taxes and bringing in more revenue? and those have been the two big problems on every budget deal they've ever made. any committee that sought to take a whack at the huge debt this country has. those have always been the two long-standing problems and they remain so.
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>> so, candy, if they can come to some sort of consensus, a little sweet spot where neither side looks like they're giving anything up. that's what this is all about. neither side wants to end up in somebody's attack ad. if they can come to some sort of sweet spot where they don't look like anybody is giving anything up, where would that be? >> i think if they could have reached that sweet spot, they would. >> they'd be there. >> here's the problem, i agree with you. you know, i see politics in everything. and i agree with you and it's a political year and they don't want to end up in somebody else's attack ads. but i wouldn't underestimate the deeply felt sort of economic principles that both sides have here. they don't see compromise as a good thing. they think it is aabandoningpri. i think it was john boehner, the speaker, who said we are like on
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different plants and i think that's true. >> what do we have coming up on the show this sunday? >> we will see where the supercommittee is because we'll be right up against that deadline and also have a conversation with former secretary of state, condoleezza rice. who is going to stop by and talk about are things foreign policy. >> thanks, candy. don't miss it. state of the union with candy starting live at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. also new this morning, l.a. homicide investigators are taking another look at the mysterious death of hollywood legend natalie wood. her death was ruled on november 1981 accidental. the sheriff department says it has been contacted by witnesses with new information. demi moore and ashton kutcher are divorcing. she decided to end her six-year marriage to kutcher. he will cherish the time he spent with demi and said something about marriage being hard. a small group of heart
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broken ryan gosling fans braved the rain and wearing masks. they are revolting against the magazine's decision to honor bradley cooper as this man's sexiest man alive. his ads alone should have earned him the title. still to come this morning, the real "occupy." "occupy wall street" poushing through the barricades and anger against corporate america, literally, spilling over. you hate your congressman, you might be stuck. why some elections may be rigged before voters even hit the ballot box. it's the subject of a new cnn one-hour documentary that airs this weekend. we'll have a preview later this hour. you're watching "american morning." it's 14 minutes past the hour. ♪ if i should fall from grace with god ♪ ♪ where no doctor can relieve me ♪ ♪ if i'm buried 'neath the sod ♪ but the angels won't receive me ♪ ♪ let me go, boys, let me go, boys ♪
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new york city regrouping after a day and night of mass protests. "occupy wall street" turning two months old in a very loud way. scuffles with police, some clashes got bloody. protesters lifting barricades, clogging subways. the nypd says one officer was
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hit by a flying object at zuccotti park. in the end, 245 protesters were arrested. joining us now from miami is john timany, former deputy commissioner of the nypd. good morning, sir. i want to get your take on how well the nypd and protesters performed yesterday. two-month anniversary and tensions were pretty high. what you saw there on the streets, do you think that was appropriate response from police to this? >> oh, absolutely. you know, they were, but the early morning event and wall street where the protesters were getting through the stock exchange, closing it down and, of course, the police couldn't allow that. so, you had squirmishes along the frontlines with the barricades. the footage looked pretty ugly with the protesters trying to tear the barricades down. half a dozen police officers were hurt in the process. one guy required two dozen
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stitches. the police officer did. so, it got pretty ugly. it died down the remainder of the day and then picked up, again, at 4:00. mostly joined by the unions in an attempt to cross the brooklyn bridge. clearly, there was plenty of notice that you could use the pedestrian walkway across the brooklyn bridge. but that gave way to closing down both lanes of traffic inbound and outbound. the brooklyn had more arrests and it is a tough day. tough day for the police. >> we're looking at pictures here. you see police officers with batons, pushing people back. you see two or three police officers holding on to a guy's jack jacket. what is the trained police response when you are told, look, you cannot be in the intersection and they are in the intersection. what is the appropriate police response? what you're hearing from the some of the occupiers and some of the reporters who were there, it felt like some of the occupiers were antagonizing the police and the police were getting rough.
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>> i mean, no, the police respond to what they face. when you have traditional nonviolent, right, disobedience, please hand police handle that entirely different. when you have active, physical resistance, police officers are allowed to use force to overcome force. and i guarantee you, especially on television, it's it's going to look excsi police know that the police had their own sort of counterfilmers out there, too. i'm presuming it's because when you have people with cell phone video who put a little bit out there, they want to make sure they have their own video. we circled some police officers in uniform shooting, as well. there are those who think, though, the police overreacted in some cases. you see this picture of this boy, 19-year-old young man, really, who had bloodied face and he looks like he's crying. people around him said he was hit in the head by a baton. obviously doesn't look good. what do you make -- go ahead. >> you have to see the video in
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its entirety. this is why the nypd videotapes because it's almost like a hockey match where the referee catches the retaliatory who doesn't catch the initial strike. what the nypd does is film the whole event so they can give the actions of the police officers some context that the officer isn't willy-nilly, just deciding to be brutal, they're reacting to some sort of force or assault. it doesn't mean in every case the police officer is justified. i can guarantee you, no better police department as far as being better trained that has more experience of handling all types but the very nature of new york city, the u.n. and the things that go on at a daily base tls. >> what do you make of the "occupy wall street" movement. we saw everything about a police response about terrorism. it was about protecting new york and new yorkers from people from the outside. now, you've got this movement that has sprung up about the
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lack of opportunity on the inside. america not working for everyone. give me your sense about what -- it's an interesting police challenge. >> oh, it absolutely is. i guarantee you early on, even the police are working men and women. they are sympathetic to the overall message, if you will. the whole notion that the economy is not working for the last two or three years. but as this is dragged on now, it's going through its third month, others with different agendas have joined the protest movement and they have not been so peaceful and, you know, they've got their own agenda and, of course, down in zuccotti park, all of a sudon the homeless are showing up. recently released prisoners from likers island showing up. philadelphia last weekend the young woman was raped at the "occupy" camp. and we see this time and time again in city after city that the original message, the original movement has been, in some cases, subverted by those
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with other agendas. >> john, thank you so much. senior vice president of andrews. nice to see you, thank you, sir. >> thank you. still to come this morning, hitting the road this thanksgiving? you definitely will not be alone. coming up, what you can expect out on the roads during your holiday travel this year. and stanford university plenty to cheer about. they're ranked number top ten in the nation for academics. oh, yeah, football, too. what's the secret to their success? find out later in the hour. 23 minutes after the hour. the postal service is critical to our economy-- delivering mail, medicine and packages.
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welcome back to "american morning." top stories. police near syracuse university say they're looking into claims the school's associate men's basketball coach, bernie fine, sexually assaulted at least one boy beginning in the 1980s. fine is now on administrative leave. the university's head basketball coach says fine has his full support. tens of thousands of protesters packed tahrir square.
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shield the military's budget from civilian powers. the military has been ruling egypt since former president hosni mubarak stepped down earlier this year. l.a. homicide investigators are taking another look at the mysterious death of hollywood legend natalie wood. it was ruled that wood drowned 30 years ago this month while boating with her husband, robert wagner and christopher walken. contacted by witnesses with new information. a news conference is scheduled for later this morning. we covered the fascinating story when cnn was still in its formative years back in 1981. we wanted to open up our news archives and see the coverage of natalie woods' death from that time. if you were watching on november 30th, 1981. this is what you saw. >> the los angeles county coroner tonight says natalie wood slipped, hit her head and
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drowned. the exorner says the 43-year-old actress was legally drunk when she died over the weekend. we have this report from robert in los angeles. >> accidental drowning was ruled today's cause of death. but thomas nguchi left several key questions unanswered. first the facts. >> ms. wood, it appears based on our investigation, that on this day, noon, shortly after midnight, sunday morning. she apparently attempted to get on to the dinghy. slipped and fell in the water. unable to return to the dinghy
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or the boat. and later the a mile away and t dinghy was also found close to the shore. >> he said there was no evidence of foul play. he did indicate, however, that tests revealed ms. wood was technically drunk, but continually referred to wood's condition as slightly inebriated. he never suggested that alcohol was one reason why the actress was unconscious. a heated but not violent argument had ensued between robert wagner and actor christopher walken, a guest on the yacht. he could not confirm what the argument was about or whether it was the decision ms. wood decided to leave the ship alone. >> argument apparently took place, not involving ms. wagner, but mr. wagner and ms. wagner
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did not get involved and apparently that may be the cause of why she separated from this group. >> reporter: the actress had prescriptions for two sorts of pain killers, but said further tests would reveal whether these drugs were in her system. the results of these last tox logical investigates will be made public in a few days. robert weiner, cable news network, los angeles. >> that was back in 1981, 30 years later, investigators have reopened that case. the captain of the boat was on nbc this morning, he said, "i made mistakes by not telling the honest truth in a police report." david gregory also asked, was the fight between natalie wood and her husband, robert wagner what led to her death and he said, yes. >> police won't say they reopened the case of davern. he reacheditute the wagner family for a statement and they said they trust the los angeles
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sheriff department to evaluate any new information and that the information come from a source or sources other than those tries to profit from the 30-year anniversary of natalie wood's death. a press conference later today in california and los angeles. i think it's at 2:00 p.m., that's california time. we'll see who these new witnesses are and what this new information is. the argument, by the way, that robert wagner was having with christopher walken was over natalie wood. robert wagner smashed a bottle on a table, it got really heated. again, we don't know if that's part of this new investigation or not. we'll just have to wait and see. >> the celebrity in this case, quite frankly, the celebrity of this case has been gone over and gone over gone over what could be new after 31 years. only a few people on the boat. the boat captain will be on cnn. we'll get more from that then. ahead on "american morning,"
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it is 39 degrees. you're looking at a beautiful shot of central park. i love that song by the cure because friday is my favorite day of the week. oh, and let's just take a look and thank the people because i don't know if it's that day, maybe it's national day to thank your co-workers but, you know what, honestly, these guys do a great job every single day. happy friday to you. it's 39 past the hour. they showed their numbers and their anger. "occupy wall street" protesters blocking the brooklyn bridge. hasn't become a force like the
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tea party, yet. some are saying republicans, not democrats, are missing an opportunity here, thougangle of "wkl op-ed on this topic blaze." thanks to bothf thank you. >> let's start with matt because, matt, you think the gop is sort of missing the boat here. they should address this issue of income inequality from a conservative view point. explain. >> that's right. i think so far conservatives have had two approaches to this issue of income and inequality. on the one hand, some conservatives say it's not an issue and it doesn't exist. on the other hand they say, it's not an issue but we need to find ways the government can alleviate the problem. the one thing that no one is saying is that the founders of this country didn't believe it was an issue. in fact, they believe the purpose of government was simply to protect our natural rights. if you did that, you would, obviously, get inequalities of income and condition. no one is really making that argument. so, i think it would be interesting if the gop did it for once. >> that's a tough argument to
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make because it's kind of like, it's difficult to get that point across. so, will, if it were you, how would you talk about income inequality as a republican? >> yeah, unfortunately for some of our more liberal viewers, matt and i will have a lot of disagreement on this. obviously, my answer would be, who cares? better yet, income inequality is a good thing. here's why. look, we have a system that has triple, increased nominal income by 350% over 250 years. it pulled more people out of poverty than any other economic system on the history of earth. we did it through the concept of free trade, not on equality. it's easy to say economic growth is natural. that's not truer. for 1,700 years we had stagnant income growth or marginal growth in income and this is what we put together here on this society with free trade as the basis, it is historically an adm admiration. i would suggest that income inequality correlates with we're
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all richer. we're all doibetter off. >> the income inequality has grown in this country. the united states is sort of near the bottom, if you look at the country's income equality percentages. the united states isn't exactly number one. and the other issue here is that if middle america doesn't have money to spend, won't that eventually hurt the people that are making the most money? >> again, i think you have to change the conversation. they're talking about a prism over the last 30 years and not talking about the fact that over a much longer time frame we're growing richer through the same system that is producing income inequality. the economic system that makes us all more wealthy also makes us more unequal. the argument the republicans should put forward and matt has said something similar to this, that's what republicans should stand for. they should explain this concept. >> matt, do you agree? >> i think there's been a lot of
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interest in the american founding. you see that with the best-selling biographies with the founders and the john adams mini series and, of course, in the tea party which wants to get back to founding principles. we haven't had a politician who said what are those founding principals. the founding principle is that people are created equal and protect their natural equality. not to equalize incomes or material conditions, but to simply protect those natural rights. i would love to see the u.n. do a study on how well governments across the world are protecting our natural rights. i think very different from the studies that measure income and inequality. >> i think on another connected topic that the "occupy wall street" protesters says the deck is stacked against a certain segment of the population with tax loopholes and the people controlling the money really control our government. they make the rules, they control what lawmakers do. the deck is stacked against them. so, how in the world can you have income equality?
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>> that's a very different conversation. when you start talk about inequality as the production of criminality, that's not something many of us disagree on. this is the great debate about "occupy wall street" is it about corruption on wall street? about corruption in washington, d.c. or is it more broadly about one verse 99? is it more broadly about the concept of inequality? the way republicans should engage this is on the concept that inequality is not in and of itself a social ill. it correlates to all of us doing better. >> so, this is really in the context of republicans describing the "occupy wall street" movement. congressman peter king was on "anderson cooper" last night and here's how he described the protesters. let's listen. >> first of all, you listen to them and they make no sense and these are people who are living in dirt and these are people who are involved with drugs, there was violence and rape. they're frustrated. life is full of frustration.
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they're angry people, angry people who are losers who are on the outside and screaming. if they want to get involved, go and get into the system. you don't do it by living in dirt and you don't do it by carrying out rapes and by anti-american slogans. >> will, i heard your argument and it's difficult to know what exact message the prost iters want to get out, but some people say what is wrong with getting out a lot of different messages, as long as we're having this conversation. i just want to address this question to matt. when you hear congressman king describe the protesters that way, what do you think? i mean, does that add to the conversation or the argument in this country? >> well, it's a point of view, certainly. what i see these "occupy wall street" people i'm seeing a tradition that goes back 200 years. you go back to brook farm in america in years before the civil war where people were coming together and trying to create the ideal society. as the they are trying to
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reorganize society because the way society exists is unjust. what i'm saying is for congressman king or for any of the republicans, you have to defend it on the level of ideas. the society we have isn't just a society because the basis of our society is the protection of natural right, not more property for one person or less property for another. >> and, will, you're shaking your head, you're nodding. >> i think, personally, i try to apply this in all my analysis. so, have this conversation and this debate on the level of ideas and not attacking human beings. as people, i agree with matt. the congressman has a much stronger ground to stand on. the problem with "occupy wall street" it's hard to pin them down and what their ideas are. >> it has changed the conversation in this nation, don't you think? we are talking about things like income inequality and we are talking about wall street and some of the stuff that went wrong on wall street that has never been punished. we are trochialking about that >> that's all true.
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boys accused him of inappropriate touching back in the '80s and '90s. the team's head coach says fine has his complete support. president obama is in bali meeting with indonesia's president this morning. the president also announcing that secretary of state clinton will be visiting myanmar next month. the first such trip there in 50 years. l.a. homicide detectives have reoepthened investigation into the death of actress natalie wood. on thanksgiving weekend, 1981, wood was on her boat with her husband, robert wagner and actor christopher walken when she somehow went overboard and died. officials at the time ruled her death as an accident. the sheriff department now says it has additional information about the drowning. so long, reg. regis philbin is leaving "live with regis & kelly." after 28 years, it was simply time to move on. that's the news you need to start your day. "american morning" back right after a break.
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good morning to our friends in washington. what a beautiful day. congress, well, got to talk about something slightly ugly, right? konsh has been fating a lot of criticism lately. "new york times" released a poll that found congress' approval rating at 9%. that's an all-time low. want to give your congressman the boot, not so easy. jerry mandering has made it easier for incumbents to lose their seats. here to explain is drew griffin. hello, drew. >> guys, i'm so glad you have me on this morning, especially, carol, right after that ine interview you did with "occupy
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wall street." do you want to know why conservative members of congress like peter king are not lisening to the "occupy wall street" movement or why it was so easy for the liberal members to insult the tea party because they're in such safe, insulated districts they're almost untouchable, which is why we put this documentary together. >> i have been asked to do a report on jerry manderring. what do you think? >> i think he's a great guy. >> these are people lined up to see the liberty bell. what do you think about gerrymandering. >> i never heard of him. >> it's actually the way politicians draw up congressional districts. >> oh. >> into weird looking shapes so they can protect their own seats. in chicago, squeeze between two freeways, this narrow strip is needed to connect two halves of a gerrymandered district to keep
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it continuous, as is required. this is the way congress gets around the continuous rule because there's, obviously, nobody living here, i mean, unless there's homeless people, i guess. anybody here? any congressional voters out there? this is illinois's fourth district. stand it on end and what does it look like? >> ear muffs. >> reporter: lewis gutierrez has been the congressman here for almost 20 years. >> one part and another part and you stay protected and you stay together. >> reporter: the district was drawn to give hispanics a seat in congress. >> shouldn't the congress of the united states be a reflection of the city of chicago? >> reporter: gutierrez kicks off what he says a irish district, jewish district, three black districts. this is the map for those chicago districts. all held by democrats with irregular lines.
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odd connecting points. back in the earmuff strip. >> here comes a tractor. he's in the fourth congressional district right now. he's going through the fourth congressional district and he has entered the fifth congressional district. >> in his hispanic district, gutierrez connected with 75% of the vote or more. other democrats around him, it can be as high as 85%. consider this. in the last decade, 78% of all the seats in the house did not change party hands, not even once. that's nearly four out of five congressman in safe seats year after year after year. a result of district lines drawn to protect incumbents in both parties. >> in general election, it's almost rigged. >> and carol and christine. that's why we named this report gerry rigged.
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it takes place every ten years in this country. one of the most important developments that takes place in politics. it's going on right now and, as you'll see sunday night, almost exclusively behind the scenes, backroom deals with very, very little public involvement. >> that's, in part, why the mid-term elections were so very important, right? >> that's exactly right. >> low approval ratings and hyperpartisanship and you're going to show us exactly why. all right, drew, thank you. >> can't wait to see it. does your vote really matter? it might depend on where you live. is your neighborhood gerry-rigged? i will not miss it. >> me neither. beawe'll be right back. i have astigmatism.
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good morning, atlanta. looks like a nice day there. pretty chilly there. 36 degrees, but later really nice. 55 degrees. wree ha we have to talk about your show tomorrow, christine.

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