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>> do me a favor, just tick off some of the most famous red sox who have been on the grass. >> babe ruth, ted williams, johnny pesky, yastrzemski, fred lynn. you could go on and on. that's what makes fenway park so special. that's what makes the red sox such an incredible storied franchise with all of the amazing hall of fame baseball players over the years. when you go there, when you go to a red sox game, you have to remember the history that's taken place on that field. some of the incredible baseball players. that's a major part of what makes fenway park so special. >> i know they haven't even painted over the chair there behind home plate where ted williams -- not behind home plate. out beyond where ted williams hit that home run. thanks for calling in. i appreciate it. >> sure.
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>> the man who admitted to shooting trayvon martin may taste fresh air again. he could go free on $150,000 bond. a judge granted the bond after a lengthy hearing. and in a surprising move we heard from the man himself when he took the stand. zimmerman apologized to trayvon martin's parents who were sitting there in the courtroom. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little younger than i am. i did not know if he was armed or not. >> the attorney says zimmerman's apology there is too little too late. >> zimmerman makes this self-serves apology in court 50 days later. the real george zimmerman
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website never once said i'm sorry. hen when he made these statements to police, why not show remorse there if he was sincerely apologetic for killing this unarmed child. >> also in court this morning, we heard from zimmerman's mother for the first time. >> the zimmerman family testified over the phone simply for their own safety. welcome back here. the judge has granted the bond. how soon you could get out. there are things that need to be
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put in place they've got to put at least $15,000 in cash down. this is a family of limited means. that may be a bit difficult. and they also have to figure out whether or not he's going to be out of state. it could be as early as tomorrow, more likely in the next few days. >> which the judge said would be okay, he could leave the state. if they could work it out. >> you're not surprised the judge granted the bond. you're surprised by the $150,000. fair? >> a family of limited pleens 37 but we are talking about a second degree murder case. and i've got to tell you, i was a little surprised. the government asked for $1 million. i thought that was a little much, perhaps excessive. $500,000 in my view would have been a $50,000 cash bond. i don't know that that would be excessive in a case where an alleged unarmed boy was killed. >> what about the fact that we simply -- and this was a gasp
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moment a wow moment, actually seeing george zimmerman in his suit and tie taking the stand. and contradicting himself a little bit. >> i'm still so shocked by it. i went back and sort of tried to look through my notes to see i've ever seen anything like that in a bond case. i've seen a lot of trials and prosecuted a lot of cases. i don't know if it helped him that much. some people say maybe it helped him. he said i'm sorry for the loss of your son. perhaps that humanized him, but he also said, i thought he was a little younger than we i am. we know george zimmerman is 28. yet when he was speaking to the dispatcher he said this is a kid, this is a teenager. that's a pretty serious contradiction. then he also said i did not know if he was armed or not. he said trayvon martin reached for his gun and that's why he shot. that's another significant inconsistency. if he goes to trial, he's going to make my statements.
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he has to testify at a stand your ground hearing and at trial. he's already spoken to police. now you're talking about five or six different versions of what happened. that's going to make for a difficult cross-examination. >> it also felt like a min nigh trial. in case you missed some of this, i want to just play one exchange. this is mark o'meara, the defense attorney for george zimmerman and one of the investigators. take a listen. >> do you know who started the fight? >> do i know? >> right. >> no. >> do you have in i evidence that supports who may have started the fight? >> mop. >> i keep on wondering, was she trying to deep things close to the vest. was it a game of semantics. this was an experienced investigator.
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he's been an investigator for over 20 years. i think what can be read into that was that the government cannot believe george zimmerman cannot account for things. perhaps at this point, they don't have anything to contradict what he has to say. maybe they don't think they need it because they just don't believe it. that i think is the best case scenario for the prosecution. the worst case is they don't know anything. i can't imagine that. they charged him with second degree murder. it's against a prosecutor's case that they know they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. there's a lot more to this case than we know and we're going to be finding out about that. drips and dribbles. >> then i imagine another gasp, i guess, is hearing the voice of george zimmerman's wife. i think a lot of people didn't realize he was married and now here she is calling in just for her own safety, right? they don't want her come into the courtroom. i just want to play a little bit.
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whether or not he has anger issues. take a listen. >> i was curious, he had to go through anger management? >> i believe so. >> okay. >> and you stated that you think he was successful in completing that? >> yes. >> and i gather, my follow up question is have you ever seen him angry or do you think he has a problem -- let me ask you first thing, have you seen him angry? >> no, i haven't. >> do you think he has anger management problems? >> no, i do not. >> did that help humanize him? >> i think so. i mean, i knew he was married because i've been doing so much background on this. he's been married for almost five years. it's a testimony of a wife. i'm surprised she say she's never seen him angry i have seen my husband angry. he's seen me angry. i wonder if there was a bit of being disingenuous as well. for a bond hearing, that's okay. but the fact that she's never shienl angry. i don't know. i don't know if that rings so
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true to the average person. >> what a morning. >> what a morning, brooke. >> thank you. we'll take you live to the pentagon and the white house next. [ male announcer ] a car is either luxury or it isn't. if you want a luxury car with a standard power moonroof,
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we're not talking about just secret service employees, but i understand the number has changed. >> it has. the military is investigating misconduct of several of its personnel in columbia. we just got a statement that the number of army personnel involved has grown. now six green berets instead of five. six green berets under investigation. that is in addition to members of the marine court. two navy members and a member of the u.s. air force. all now part of the military investigation into the allegations. they were in columbia supporting the president's visit. there is a military investigating officer in colombia. he's expected back in the united states. wlen he returns to the united states he will interview these 11 people again, talk to them and give them their side of the story.
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how could he do this so quickly? because of this procedure under the uniform code of military justice. there's a lot of procedures about ho uh allegations of misconduct are investigated. and the military is doing this one by the book. it could take some time, but this investigating officer will write a report and he will make recommendations about how to proceed. brooke? >> i was going to ask east-west highway it's taking so long. we have 11 members of the secret service, 11 members of the military bringing it to 22 now being investigated. barbara star at the pentagon. thank you. i want to go to the white house now. we have been hearing today there might be more firings of the secret service personnel. is there any movement op that? >> no, we're still awaiting that, brooke. officials telling us there will be more resignations today. as you know, 3 of the 11 are already sort of out of the picture, i guess you will, in terms of employment.
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two supervisor, one who retired, one who the secret service is moving to fire. and a third who has not been with the service as long as the supervisors who served for a long time who did resign. so there's eight secret service members who are still on administrative leave. they've had their security clearances revoked at this point. we're assuming obviously the firings come from those eight. >> let's talk about this one agent here who went on facebook of all paces and posted this picture of himself and sarah palin. who is he? >> that's right. this is a secret service agent actually one of the supervisos,s two of the three who were supervisors who were now out of the secret service. this is someone who served long time. he did serve on the detail when sarah palin was john mccain's running mate. according to a photo in january of 2009, you can see a picture
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of his standing there wearing dark glasses from him saying i was really checking her out, if you know what i mean, in response to other comments people had posted on his facebook page. we also understand from a former secret service official that cheney as well served on the detail of vice president dick cheney and before that mefs serve on the detail of vice president al gore while he was running it is president. >> and he's posting about checking out sarah palin on facebook. i was just told cnn now confirmed three more secret service agents will be forced out today. is that's what we've concerned. and you know, we shake our heads about this current. you're at the white house. what is the white house saying.
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this is no way to act because the secret service is a representative of the united states while they're overseas. there's also another element coming out. you're hearing from jeff sessions, a republican senator. the press secretary dealing with a lot of questions today. he said it's ridiculous and trivializes the seriousness of the work the secret service and also the military do. parents talks about what they can do to protect their kids. should children just forget playing by themselves and stay inside? we're going to talk about this with marc klaas.
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the fib fub dig, digging in lower manhattan, digging right there in that red brick building, piece by piece, eare moving every square foot of the basement there. etan paetz missing for 33 years. he was 6 years old when he disappeared walking from his home in soho to a school bus stop. you can see the close proximity there from the home to where he was trying to go. and to see right smack dab in the middle of the picture, we marked search, that's the building they're digging today. and this renew the search is here, 33 years later was prompted by a mysterious comment made by a possible suspect.
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marc claas join us. his daughter was kidnapped and murdered when she was 12 years oled. thank you for joining me. the family of etan still lives in that same apartment block there in lower manhattan. they're not talking with members of the media, that's entirely understandable. >> think about it this way. the best possible news you can pick out of this was your son was murdered and buried under a slap of cement 33 years ago, how would you feel? you would feel absolutely horrible. that's the best outcome they have.
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or to be dashed and left with the ongoing mystery of what happened to etan. >> that puts it in perspective, given the fact that that would be the best case scenario, which is just awful for this mother and father. i know we heard from police commissioner ray kelly. he said today that this renewed search has really been enabled by the new technology. whoo message does this message send to potential childhood abductors that more than 30 years later, you could still be caught. >> it sends a message to abductors, but also a message to the families that there is always hope. hope remains alive. they're going to stop investigating a case because it's gone cold. we have new d.a.s, new cold case investigators that come into these things. they use new technologies and often times they do solve cases.
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so this is good on every level. >> we heard today, mark, from another children's advocate about the case here. etan's case and what it meant to parents and children all across the country. take a listen. >> i think it ended an era of innocence in this country. parents around the nation saw how it happened and thought there but for the grace of god go i or my child. it really awhackened america. >> ronald reagan marked the day. it was the beginning of the center for missing and exploited children. do you agree, was this disappearance, this particular disappearance, may of '79, was it a wake-up call? >> i look at it more as opening a lid on america's dirty little secret. this really let people see that this beautiful little boy who was absolutely innocent was somehow victimized and somehow disappeared into the ether.
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what we found after that, brooke, is that people started talking about a million kids a year disappearing in our country which we know is not true, but we started collecting the data. we started looking at investigative techniques. for instance, we didn't know -- we always thought that kids were taken by strangers. >> not the case. >> but as a result of the research that's been done since, we now know it's family members and friends the ones that most often victimize kids. >> well, we will be watching as members of the fbi and the new york police there literally jackhammering through the entire basement of this building for the next couple of days, working 24 hours and we'll see if anything they may find. marc klaas, thank you for coming on. appreciate it. >> 4/20. check the date. it's today. and it's a time of day that has a very special meaning for stoners. why one college campus actually
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half past the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. two big airlines could be looking for a merger. and it's 4/20 a late a lot of people smoke marijuana. but police are cracking down on users pitch of all things fish fertilizer. alison kosik let's start with you. us airways, american airlines. sounds like american's union employees really do want this merger? where does it stand? >> it does sound that way. it's not a question mark. of amr's unions, that's 55,000 people. i'm talking about pilots and flight attendants and ground
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workers. it's mornt to get that kind of support. then you also have the us airways ceo coming out in a letter to its employees saying you know what, us airways doesn't need to merge with anyone, but a merger with american represents a unique opportunity that we should not ignore. the timing is interesting, too. you look at american airlines it's kind of looking at a white night. the timing is really key. and amr is supposed to go to bankruptcy court next week to throw out its union labor contracts which would likely mean pay cuts. what you saw happening here, our unions, latching on to the possible us airways deal. it's looking to have the best chance to grow. >> i can hear people saying okay, okay, may merging may not merge. what does this do for me it goes
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back to the kbhieconomics class. if they merge, they only leaves four major airlines left. fewer airlines means less competition. that means higher prices for you and me. and by not having as much supply, they can fly fuller planes, charge higher prices. but they can also be more efficiently. maybe you get what you pay for at this point. >> we shall see. there's a little bit of a party of sorts that campus officials are hoping to extinguish. look at all that smoke. thousands of, we'll calm them marijuana enthusiasts, lighting up at 4:20 in the afternoon. this is a annual tradition on the school's campus. but this year, university officials are cracking down.
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jim spell lan man is live in bo. things could smell a little fishy in boulder. >> about t minus two hours to 4:30. what a difference here at the university of colorado boulder than previous years. the quad which usually has about 10,000, 12,000 people is completely empty. largely because they made it inhospitable for the people who want to smoke marijuana here. they treated the whole area with really, really smelly fish fertilizer. so you might come here to smell marijuana spoke. today you're smelling dead fish. nobody wants to hang out. >> are you smelling it? >> they're trying to figure out where to do their 4:20 later in the afternoon. >> are you smelling the fish? are you on campus as we speak? >> i am. brooke, you know, i'll go to any steps to report for you. i'm standing by this really smelly field as we speak.
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>> who are these people? they fly in all over the country just to do this on campus? >> they do. this is the closest thing stoners have to a holiday. this is ground zero. people come from all over. i think today what the university has attempted has been effective. a lot more people are going to be down in denver or just doing more small localized 4:20s here today. so it's a huge day for them. i don't think they'll have a problem finding a cause or even a place to smoke when 4:20 comes around. >> i didn't mean spellman, smelling fish all for the sake of news. thank you. happening right now, senator john mccain welcomes mitt room knee to address republican leaders. remember the silver spoon comment from ohio earlier in the week? stay right there. tltle emotional here? aren't you getting a little industrial? okay, there's enough energy right here in america. yeah, over 100 years worth.
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joining me this hour jerry schatzky, carmen juan ullrich is the president of ultra wealth management. carmen your question comes today from susan in california. we have a mortgage at 5.9% and have been paying for 10 years. should we refinance or continue with the mortgage we have. let's assume she has a 30 year. >> let's assume she wants to stay put. if they want to stay put in the house and stay there five, 10 years that's great. when you re-fi there's costs involved. you need to be able to stay there long enough to recoup all of those costs. but 5.9, very expensive. >> in this environment, right? >> at the worst case, she would probably qualify for 4.5. you've already is put 10 years in, make it a 20 year, don't give up those years. >> your question comes from jim
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in texas. i want to pay off my credit cards and build my emergency fund, what percentage should i devote to each? >> paying down credit card debt in the current investment environment is probably the best investment anyone can make. if they have a high interest credit card, which most people do have, they'll be willing to lend you more at that rate anytime. so i would be putting most of your money towards the credit cards. that should be the major focus. you can't get that interest rate anywhere else. and if it's a high interest rate, there will be a lot of people lining up to lend again. >> thank you both. if you have a question you want answered, just send us an e-mail anytime to cnn help desk at
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a major development in the case that everyone has been watching here. the killing of trayvon martin. the man who admits pulling the trigger george zimmerman could be out of jail very, very soon. a judge just this morning set his bond at $150,000 during a hen thi hearing today. >> i just want to say i'm sorry for the loss of your son. i didn't know how young he was. and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> why didn't you wait to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother, why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> since my involvement with him, he had always wanted to
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acknowledge what happened that day. >> this whole time he has never once said i'm sorry. when he made all those statements to police, why not show remorse there. >> why did you continue to follow and pursue mr. martin, isn't that true? >> yes, yes or no. >> a and there was mention of two bookmark nose are actually the language, the words that he used to describe mr. martin, or the people he felt were break
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into those houses. correct? >> yes, sir. >> do you know who started the fight? >> do i know? >> no. >> he had protective cup over his nose. his lip was swollen and cut and there were two gashes on the back of his head. >> he's very protective of people. very protective of homeless people and also of children. he was very active. >> i'm going to find the motion is well taken. going to set the bond at
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$150,000 with the following conditions. electronic monitoring, gps. i'm going to require the state and the defense to meet. mr. zimmerman is not going to be released today. >> still not really clear at this point in time where zimmerman will go when his bond was posted. >> the accused are in court and the victim's mother speaks out to cnn. i've had surgery and yes, i have occasional constipation. that's why i take doctor recommended colace® capsules. i have hemorrhoids and yes, i have constipation. that's why i take colace®. [ male announcer ] for occasional constipation associated with certain medical conditions, there's colace® capsules. colace® softens the stool and helps eliminate the need to strain. stimulant-free, comfortable relief. no wonder more doctors recommend it.
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our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. the mother of a south african rape victim is now speaking out. some of the particulars of this horrendous crime. this is the girl, she's 17. she's mentally disabled. but it's the pictures we can't show you that has south africa in shock. video of a gang rape passed on a cell phone then passed from person to person until it went rival. seven men and boys, some as young as 14, one nearly 40 appeared in a south african court yesterday facing charges. their heads down at that particular court appearance. but on the cell phone video, their heads aren't down, they're laughing. one of the biggest newspapers in the country describes the rape
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as, quote, our disgrace. you spoke with with the girl's mother. what did she tell you? >> brooke, obviously she's totally devastated. she broke down into tears when she told me that this is not the first time that this has happened to her daughter. her daughter was rape i had in 2009 and also raped again in 2010 and that she had been pleading with social welfare to intervene because where they're living is not safe for her anymore. she wanted her daughter to be placed in a home where she would be safe. something that the authorities have done, but the mother feels it's because the story is so big, so international, has put the spotlight on rape in south africa that the government wants to be seen to be doing something. here's a little bit of what she said to me. flart they arrived after the fact, just like you. i might as well thank you for the boarding school they put her in.
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they're coming now because things have turned thought way. they shouldn't pretend as if they've been standing up for me. they never stood up for me. i asked for help and they told me there was no abuse in our home and no need to remove her. children, women and people with disabilities is, she will investigate in these claims and if anybody in government is found to have neglected to help this family, action will be taen against her, brooke. >> what about action as far as the court? what's the next legal hurdle here? >> well, the men will appear again next week. at the moment, what's happening is this girl who's mentally disabled really has a huge team of people trying to support her and prepare her for this ordeal
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that she's facing. she needs to support this court case so that there can be a condition at the end of the day. the mother told me in 2009, the case was thrown out because she just couldn't testify for herself because of her mental disability, brooke. >> thank you for staying on the story with us. and speaking with this mother, we appreciate it. still to come, american women trying to serve their country. they say they were discharged from the military after they tried to report something bad that happened. >> i need report an assault. and she just looked at me and she started laughing and said don't come to me because you had sex and changed your mind. >> wow. sanjay gupta investigates. he's going to join me live in studio next. erything ok? just stay off the freeways, all right? i don't want you going out on those yet. mmm-hmm. and just leave your phone in your purse. i don't want you texting, all right? daddy...ok! ok, here you go. be careful. thanks dad. call me -- but not while you're driving.
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a d you shalling trend in the military appears to hit all forces and defies rank. is the military using psychiatry to cover up sex assault? it goes like this. a woman in the service claims sh he's raped. her allegation is dismissed. then she gettings diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder. cnn's chief medical correspondent is here with me to talk about it. but first, let's watch this one woman's story. >> doing the right thing was in 21-year-old's stephanie schroeder's blood. >> i joined shortly after 9/11. i thought it was the right thing to do. >> sick months after enlisting in the marines, she found herself training at a base in virginia. one saturday she decided to blow off steam with some fellow marines. >> we went out to dinner. i got up to go to the restroom and my attacker followed me and forced his way into the bathroom. i went to pull the door shut and
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he grabbed it and flung it back as hard as he could and charged into the bathroom and slammed the door behind him. >> reporter: back on base, schroeder reported what happened to the officer in charge. >> i told her i need to report an assault. and she just looked at me and then she started laughing and said don't come bitching to me because you had sex and changed your mind. >> schroeder said she took a lie detector test about her assault and passed. but charges were never charged against her attacker. in fact, she was forced to work by him side by side over a year. meanwhile, her rank was reduced and her pay was docked she says all because of the incident. >> if you want to keep your career, you don't say anything, you just bear it. you just deal with it. >> reporter: but dealing was a struggle. in early 2003, five months
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pregnant with her now husband in iraq, schroeder felt suicidal. she went to see an on-base psychiatrist. >> the first time he was very nice. the second time we got into the assault and then shortly after that, the chain of command said well, we're starting an administrative discharge against you. >> on june 30, 2003, schroeder received her discharge papers. , personality disorder, a disorder that the textbook defines as a long standing pattern of maladapted behavior beginning in adolescence or early adulthood. >> it makes absolutely no sense for people to be diagnosed all of a sudden after being sexually assaulted as an adult in the military to say no, you've had this all along. >> anna is a former marine and executive director of service women's action network, it's a veterans advocacy group. >> it's extremely convenient to slap a false diagnosis on a
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young woman or man and just get rid of them. >> and the false diagnosis is exactly what's at issue here. we had a chance to ask defense secretary leon panetta specifically about that issue. take a listen to what he said. >> obviously, our goal here is to try to put in place what we need in order to deal with these cases as we move forward. there are procedures within the department of defense that allow these individuals to raise these concerns and determine whether or not they have not been treated fairly, but i think -- and i hope that they'll follow those procedures to determine whether or not that has been the case. >> part of those procedures, as well, brooke, the pentagon saying look, there's an appeal process if you feel you were discharged dishonorably for unfair reasons and you could appeal through a discharge review board and this is a process and this happened nine years ago with stephanie and she is still making her way through the system. >> i'm hearing her tell the
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story in the piece when she reported it and she was laughed at by a female. how frequently are these discharges happening? >> it's a harder number to find than you might think, and we were able to do some digging. between 2009 and 2010, 31,000 military people were discharged because of personality disorder. this is men and women alike, and there's no specific link, they're saying with these 31,000 to sexual assault. personality disorder it's typically shoulding that comes on in early adulthood and adolescence. the fact that they're being diagnosed after a traumatic event saying how are you trdrawg these two things together, if they had a personality disorder why wasn't it diagnosed earlier? >> what about benefits? >> it does, two reasons. now you have a pre-existing condition, right? so now you're out trying to get your med dal treatment from the
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va hospital and they're saying wait a second. you have this pre-existing condition and it can really make things challenging and in the private insurance industry as well and also things like the g.i. bill. these young soldiers going into the military thinking they can get money for college later on and they become ineligible and it has a significant impact in many different facets of their life. >> you tried to talk to secretary panetta. >> if you follow the timeline and the story with stephanie, at that time there wasn't a mandate and that a psychiatrist trained in this particular area had to be diagnosed with personality disorder which could lead to you getting a discharge. >> there were hearings on this and they said that you do have to have a psychiatrist or someone involved and now should you have an outside person confirming the diagnosis and what exactly would be the protocol in terms of how the person's benefits and everything else is handled.
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it's still a big question mark forra lot of people. >> she's not the only one and we'll much more on this through the weekend. thank you. >> more on the story both tomorrow, sunday morning, your show. 7:30 a.m. "sanjay gupta, m.d." >> thanks for having me, brooke. >> coming up next, "situation room" with wolf blitzer. wolf joining me with a bit of a preview. what do you have coming up? >> we'll have full analysis of what happened in florida with george zimmerman. he'll be going out on bond. sunny hostin, our legal analyst and jeff to be obin our other l analyst. if you are just coming home from earning work, we heard from george zimmerman for the first time and he spoke out publicly and made several points in that courtroom. also with the chairman of the house homeland security committee peter king is being briefed on the secret service prostitution scandal that's erupted as all of us know in colombia, south america. we get the latest information
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from him. we have all of our reporters digging, more members of the secret service about to be fired, dismissed and what's going on in that front. so we have a lot of news in the situation room. >> and it's friday, each and every friday. i'll let you answer some questions and in this behind the scenes video we call week one. here's a sneak peek here. it's what we call each and every day, it's called the super tease. check it out. >> this is one of our veteran p.j.s, mad dog. that's his name. >> hey, mad dog. >> we do this every day, the super tease that pops up in the first hour of the show. we try to figure out a unique place in the building to shoot it. >> let's do this. >> we try to find a new place in the building and we run out of places and we always try to find a cnn because we always say the united states. >> now. three, two, one. george zimmerman's bail hearing takes a surprising turn, suddenly turning into a mini trial and not only are we
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gh12k3w4r50i6r7b8g wo jooish >> let's take you to arizona. in fact, senator john mccain walked in the room with romney. this is the republican national committee spring meeting. let's take a listen.
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>> but michele bachmann and tim pawlenty and jon huntsman and herman cain and rick perry and ron paul and rick santorum and newt gingrich, thank you to this extraordinary team. we have all fought hard and well and we will fight for the things we believe in. [ applause ] >> and i express my appreciation to senator mccain for his battle for the presidency, for standing true to the principles of our party, for the fact that he has been a fighter for america for decades. this is not someone who came late to the game. he has been a stalwart champion of the things that make america america from his earliest day, and he has sacrificed enormously and continues to battle to this day. i hope we can always count on seeing john mccain in the u.s. senate fighting for the things that we believe in. thank you, senator. [ appl ]