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as a new yorker. >> the message from america those who wish to bring us harm, you may hurt us, damage us, you may even kill some of us. you will never ever beat us. that is the spirit that made america the world's greatest superpower. and ensures whatever disabilities are thrown its way, stays there for a long time to come. that's all for us tonight, ac 360 starts now. >> this is happening obviously on the eve of the anniversary to kill bin laden and the day that saw the world trade center once again become new york's tallest
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sky scraper. instead tonight there's open partisan warfare that began with this ad narrated by bill clinton. >> it's not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. he was referring to the hunt for osama bin ladin. what he did mean by that? given osama bin ladin's role in killing 3,000 americans on 9/11. >> he had to decide. and that's what you hire a president to do. you hire the president to make the calls when no one else can do it. >> that wolf blitzer tape was part of this ad. the ad provoked a sharp response from john mccain, turning 9/11 into a cheap political attack. he went on to say, this is the
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same president who once criticized hillary clinton for invoking bin ladin to score political points, it's the same president who said after bin ladin was dead, we shouldn't spike the ball after the touchdown. keeping them honest, senator mccain is factually correct on both those counts. you can decide whether for yourself the killing of bin ladin, a year after the event constitutes spiking the ball. you can't deny he said those words, nor can you deny he criticized hillary clinton for running a primary ad featuring bin ladin. he seems to be doing to mitt romney what was unacceptable to them when the hillary clinton campaign was doing it to them. unacceptable in their opinion. this is how they categorized this on "meet the press" this weekend. >> there's a difference in the roles they would play as commander in chief, that's fair game. >> he's managed to turn it into a divisive, partisan, political attack. i think most americans will see it as a sign of a desperate campaign.
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>> whatever you think of the politics surrounding the killinç of bin laden, president obama's actions as president have been consistent with candidate obama's position to make his capture a priority. governor romney's position have changed. it's not worth with heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just to catch one person. it is worth fashioning and executing an effective policy to fight global jihad. and i have a plan for doing that. now, here's mitt romney in new hampshire. >> you would have given the order? >> even jimmy carter would have given that order. >> took president obama less than two hours to hit back this afternoon.
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>> i assume that people meant what they said when they said it. that's been at least my practice. i said that i would go after bin ladin if we had a clear shot at him. and i did. if there are others who have said one with thing and now suggest they'd do something else then i'd go ahead and let them explain. >> at which point the romney campaign fired off a statement, reading in part, it's unfortunate president obama would prefer to use what was a good day for all americans as a cheap political ploy. they went on to say, governor romney has always understood, we need a comprehensive plan to deal with the myriad of threats america faces. a short time later, the obama campaign responded in a tweet, when did romney ever outline that counter terrorism policy? al qaeda wasn't mentioned a single time in his foreign policy speech. we invited both campaigns to come on the program tonight. they declined. instead, republican strategist ari fleischer, he's with us by phone and also paul begala who is now advising the obama
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superpac. now he's using it in his own campaign ads. isn't that a flip-flop? >> sure, but there's a difference. there was an accomplishment. back then it was simply a hypothetical debate. he didn't like hillary clinton saying he would be tough enough. he said on friday, august 3rd of 2007, these are his words, if we have actual intelligence about high value terrorist targets and president musharraf won't act, we will. when he said that, he was attacked by senator clinton, senator mccain and governor romney. governor romney called those remarks ill timed and he attacked obama for saying, they would go into pakistan if there was actual intelligence locating bin ladin. i think senator mccain is a very honorable guy. i think for some of my friends from the bush administration who have a problem with this, one of their first ads, which showed a flag draped body carried out of the world trade center, if they knew that, that was really
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beyond the line. this is a legitimate triumph that the president led. and he has a right to claim credit for it. >> is this a legitimate triumph that the president!xas the right to claim credit for? >> if that was all it is, i would be praising president obama and saying this is absolutely what a president should do. i think it was false when people criticized president bush after keeping us safe after september 11th. i think president obama has every right to make his case about how he's keeping us safe, and he should brag about killing osama bin laden up to a point. where he crossed the line is by taking the one-year anniversary and turning it partisan and attacking governor romney. you're not moving heaven and earth, you're sending in the s.e.a.l.s. totally different from what mitt romney said. the president shouldn't have attacked mitt romney.
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think how much better it would have been by inviting president bush and former president clinton along with navy s.e.a.l.s and cia operatives to use the technique and indefinite detention that led to the information. that would have kept this about the moment. president obama missed that opportunity to do it. and i think he blew it. he had the chance to really elevate the nation, keep them together about the killing of bin laden and he blew it by turning it into an attack on mitt romney. >> has he politicized this? romney has not said he wouldn't go after bin ladin. >> romney attacked senator obama when senator obama said he would go into pakistan, then romney as you quoted him said he would not move heaven and earth. this is how we got bin ladin, president obama came into office and he re-organized the bin laden unit in langley at the cia headquarters. he made them work more closely with tampa, the central command
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in tampa with the forces in kabul. he moved heaven and earth. he reorganized, as president bush said just six months after 9/11, bin ladin was one person, and i don't spend much time on him to be honest with you. five years after 9/11, the president was saying to fred barnes and i quote, not a top priority use of american resources. president obama had a different view. he made getting bin ladin a top priority. and he made a call, some calling it the gutziest call he's ever made. mitt romney saying, anyone would have done it is not born out by the stated positions of governor romney and the lack of actions by president bush. >> it's amazing that paul still >> all right. can't be gracious about it, the fact of the matter is, if president obama had not flip-flopped on the very thing he criticized president bush for, enhanced interrogation techniques, indefinite detention, those were the techniques the cia used under president bush that led to the
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information about the courier which led then years later the ability to track the courier which president obama took advantage of, to president obama's credit. i praise the president for that. this is actually -- both parties andç especially the cia deserv the credit and especially the navy s.e.a.l.s. but attacking mitt romney over it, when it's not what mitt romney said, it's so unnecessary. it's revealing about president obama's character. when he ran in 2008 as the post partisan, someone who would bring us together. boy did he sell us a bill of goods. there is nothing post partisan about him, if ever there's an occasion to be post partisan, it's the one-year anniversary of the killing of bin laden. he had everything in his hands to bring us together. he chose instead to split us apart once more. >> do you agree that torture is what led to the killing of bin ladin? >> i'm no expert nor is fleischer, but i did look up what one expert said at least,
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mark fallin, a former interrogator and special agent in charge of the criminal task force at guantanamo bay. he was on television the other day. he said, by saying some event in waterboarding years ago is a disservice to our service members. a whole lot of experts. this is all for the experts to argue. a lot of experts say that's not the case. and by the way, they were waterboarding under bush, and they did not get bin ladin, those are two facts that we know. we stopped waterboarding first under bush. bush stopped the waterboarding. >> the technique was not waterboarding in this instance. it was a combination of indefinite detention. the person who said this was just interviewed on "60 minutes" sunday night, who just wrote a book about this. >> that's the guy that also destroyed the videotape of the enhanced interrogation. >> that's correct. that doesn't change the fact of
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what information was derived to help get bin laden. the point, again, is the cia professional did this, the navy s.e.a.l.s did this and several presidents, president clinton did his best unsuccessfully, president bush did his best unsuccessfully, president obama was able to get the actual intelligence that none of his predecessors had. he gets the credit for it. he made the decision under his watch. >> the president should get the credit -- >> he could have taken credit for it without attacking mitt romney, that's where he messed up. if he wants to attack mitt romney in october, he would have been on higher ground. using the anniversary of the killing of bin ladin is a terrible mistake. president obama has made showing there really is nothing post-partisan about him. >> we have to leave it there, you guys have both made your positions clear. thanks, let us know what you you think. we're on facebook, google plus, follow me on twitter, let me know what you think about this @andersoncooper. al qaeda's plans to target
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cruise ships and how those plans came to light. it's really fascinating. secret al qaeda documents found in a memory stick on somebody inside a porn tape. it's fascinating stuff. we have that exclusive report. peter bergen is here, the access he got to osama bin ladin's compound. two stories you'll only see here on "360." (female announcer) most life insurance companies look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently.
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welcome back. a "360" exclusive right now. with osama bin ladin dead, what is al qaeda planning right now. it was exactly one year ago tomorrow that navy s.e.a.l.s started their mission to kill bin ladin. with him gone, al qaeda has not stopped their plans to kill. as you'll only see right here tonight, some of the answers about what they're up to can be found in what german authorities dug up inç coded files taken fm a would-be killer. exclusive details from nic robertson. >> reporter: as u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s were preparing to storm bin laden now infamous compound a year ago, two of his european recruits were sneaking out of the country on a mission to cause carnage. they were headed for vienna and
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berlin. not long after they returned to europe, one of them was being questioned at this police station. he was arrested and searched. and hidden in his underwear, police found memory recording devices like these buried deep in the devices was a pornographic video, and hidden in files inside that were what police believe were more than 100 secret al qaeda documents. inside a file marked sexy tanya protected by an almost invisible password, a treasure trove including al qaeda's road map for future operations. a document called future works. an investigative journalist who was the first to report on the documents -- >> it contains an idea that we
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haven't heard so much about, and that is to take jihad to the seas, is easier than -- i guess what they mean is to attack aviation. >> reporter: a plot to seize cruise ships set out in chilling detail. >> he says that we could hijack a passenger ship on the sea. and then use it to pressure, pressurize the public. what he most likely means is that this would then start executing passengers. >> reporter: they would dress passengers in orange jump suits, mimicking al qaeda members in gitmo. the executions would be quickly uploaded to an al qaeda website. hijacking a cruise ship would not be new territory for islamic radicals. they famously attacked a cruise ship in 1985, murdering a wheelchair bound
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jewish-american, leon klinghoffer, then throwing his body overboard. whether al qaeda used that incident as a model is unclear. the new al qaeda documents called future works appears to have been written in 2009 by al qaeda's senior leadership. u.s. intelligence sources tell cnn this information is pure gold. but it contains details of some of al qaeda's most dangerous attacks, including the attack on the london subway seven years ago. one source says that this is the most important haul of al qaeda documents this year, outside of what was found in bin ladin's compound. another plan revealed in these documents, more attacks by ç pakistani militants in mumbai india. ten gunmen on a shooting rampage, 164 innocents killed. german intelligent sources say these two men who came back to europe last year, may have been tasked with planning a similar
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attack. two men are now on trial at this berlin court. prosecutors allege that their job was to recruit a network of suicide attackers. >> we do not know what these two young men were actually up to. but there are certain information in those files that would make it plausible to assume they probably were thinking of a mumbai style attack. >> reporter: the pair have denied being members of a terrorist organization. and their trial continues. and that would make sense. the documents reveal how al qaeda isn't just focused on the big catastrophic attack. >> the author seems to be convinced that al qaeda could be pursuing a two track strategy of low cost, low damage attacks, and large scale attacks. >> like the 9/11 attack? >> yes. the reason being, if al qaeda were to pursue only large scale attacks and those are foiled,
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then they have nothing. >> reporter: indeed a year after these documents were written, european intelligence agencies were scrambling to investigate a mumbai style plot, sparking an unprecedented state department travel warning for americans in europe. >> would i say that the euro plot is off the table? no, but i believe the general idea is still alive, as soon as al qaeda believes they have the capacity to realistically go after that sort of scenario, they will immediately do it. >> reporter: the trial is expected to last several more weeks, their case appears to be living proof that the blueprint laid out in the documents is still active for carnage in europe. al qaeda has not changed its ambitions. nic robertson, cnn, berlin germany. >> ambitions are one thing, capabilities are another. what german authorities found,
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though, doesn't begin to cover it all. when navy s.e.a.l.s raided bin ladin's compound they came away with thousands of documents and data. in 1997 peter bergen had the first interview with bin laden. in that interview, bin ladin declared war on the united states. peter's obtained access to the compound before it was demolished. these are national security analysts. he's out with a fascinating book "manhunt." it takes you into the ten-year search for osama bin ladin. the wish list of attacks, what are their capabilities? how capable are they of pulling off small and big attacks? >> i think their capabilities are pretty limited, anderson. i was given access to bin ladin's own writings ijthingwri. the picture that emerges from these documents, bin ladin's calling for big attacks, kill president obama, general
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petraeus. and his guys are pushing back saying, we're under pressure from the drones, the united states is not that easy. >> they're citing the drones in particular? >> well, it's interesting, bin ladin writes a 48-page document about how he is worried about the drones, how many of his people have been killed, he's urging his people to move to a remote part of afghanistan. his 20-year-old son, living in pakistan's tribal regions, he's urging him to move to gutar, it's the richest country in the world. it's not the front lines of the war. >> he wants him to move there for safety? >> yes, the drones are having a huge impact. they were very conscious internally that the drones were causing them problems. bin ladin was keenly aware that the al qaeda brand was tarnished. he was urging some groups not to use the al qaeda name because it would be bad for fund-raising and basically attract a lot of negative attention.
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if you tape together the picture from the documents, that i was able to look at from the compound, it's an organization in great disarray. they understand that themselves. >> they saw it. you actually got access to this compound. there was still blood on the ceiling, right? >> yeah, i looked up in the third floor bedroom, i thought it would be like being where bin ladin was killed. i thought it would be like going to hitler's bunker. it turned out to be visiting someone's not so nice suburban compound. you can see where they shot bin ladin in the face, there were patterns of blood on the ceiling, it's rather low. you could see where the bullets impacted. bin laden was 6'4". the ceilings were about 6 foot. i took a look at his toilet. it was a tiny little room, tiny little kitchen. the whole picture of the house was one of -- you know, it -- confining, not uncomfortable, but not a million dollar mansion. >> you also notice some just for men hair dye? >> yeah, we know he was dying
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his hair and beard, on the shelf in the bedroom -- and the whole thing, had been left as a crime scene. i was the only real outsider to get in. there was a pakistani version of just for men in his bedroom, along with some medicine and other vitamins and these kinds of things. >> i want to ask you briefly about the conversation we had before with paul begala and ari fleischer where they were squaring off over enhanced interrogation techniques and whether that led to the raid on the compound? >> wikileaks is a very good source on this. we have the actual summaries of the interrogations of some of the key people who gave up information. two al qaeda senior people gave information that indicated the courier was important. and the courier led to bin ladin. two senior al qaeda leaders said courier wasn't important after they had been coercively interrogated. in four cases there were coercive interrogations and they produced conflicting information. it's a gray picture.ç
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and in fact, a lot of the other -- the way that the courier was found, getting his real name from another country was absolutely vital. because he had a variety of aliases. getting his cell phone and being able to geolocate it, that was a national security agency. getting a human spy on the ground in the city where he was to follow him 2 1/2 hours drive back to the compound, all those things were vital. coercive interrogation is a small part of this picture. as were uncoercive interrogation. there were a lot of other things that came up along the way. >> both sides can use it as they want? >> yeah, there's a little bit of ammo for both sides. the idea that either was despositive is not the case. >> you spent a lot time in pakistan researching the book. the book is really fascinating. it really takes you inside both the compound and the planning of it over the years. what about the idea that somebody in pakistan, somebody in the pakistan military, somebody in the pakistan government must have known?
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>> it's hard to prove negatives, but 6,000 documents were uncovered from this compound. the relations with the pakistani government were not so great. there is no smoking gun, i talked to a number of people that had intelligence. a lot of different calls were i talked to people who talked to the pakistanis this night. a lot of different calls were made from the u.s. to pakistan. you know, and the other thing, bin ladin was a very paranoid disciplined guy. i found out there were people living on the compound that didn't know bin laden was living there. >> on the compound? >> one of the wives of one of the couriers, she's been instructed, there's an arab, don ask any questions. she had no idea who he was. she lived there for years with him. the idea that other people could have known, should have known, it doesn't hold water. >> thank you very much. congratulations on the book. >> a lot more to cover, the book is out tomorrow in book stores, you can get it, and i really do recommend it. a dramatic day
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in the john edwards trial today. there's been so much speculation over how much of the sex tape edwards made with his mistress rielle hunter will surface in the courtroom. today, the judge finally ruled on that. the findings just ahead. switching to geico could save you hundreds of dollars on car insurance... da bears. haha... you people sure do talk funny. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. [ female announcer ] new aveeno skin strengthening body cream helps transform dry, thinning skin, by strengthening its moisture barrier, for improved texture and elasticity in 2 weeks. reveal healthy, supple skin. aveeno skin strengthening.
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crime and punishment now. the judge in john edwards trial has cleared the way for the steamy sex tape edwards made with rielle hunter. that ruling came from a day of emotional testimony from the wife of the prosecution's star witness, andrew young. sherry young told the court she was disgusted by edwards' scheme to hide his mistresses pregnancy
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and didn't want to go along with it. her role in the cover-up, endorsing and depositing checks. intended to pay for hunter's expenses. she only agreed to help edwards after edwards personally assured her the scheme was legal. she testified about edwards tone during that call.ç saying, quote, he was very short and very angry. he told her to get the money in. she also described the stress of being involved in the scheme. she described how she sat in the car shaking on her way to get cash for hunter's expenses. it wasn't just the money, though. hunter moved in with the youngs and later they all hit the road together to stay out of sight. at one point she sobbed so much, the judge temporarily dismissed the jury. joe johns is with me now. i understand the sex tape was the subject of discussion in court today, what happened on it? >> reporter: that's right, anderson, it's clear that tape is not going to be shown to the jury, it's also clear the
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defense wants the opportunity -- the availability, if you will, to bring the tape up as a topic of conversation if necessary. they want to ask questions of an andrew young, the prosecution's star witness, about where he got that tape, if he stole that tape, whether he was planning on selling that tape. all of these are questions that would be used to impeach the witness if they need to toward the end of the trial, anderson. >> what was it that mrs. young broke down over on the stand? >> this was sort of the turning point where she was being asked and had to give an answer about how she decided it would be okay to say that her husband, the father of her three children had actually fathered an illegitimate child with with john edwards' mistress. she was describing a conference call with herself, her husband, rielle hunter as well as john edwards. they're all talking about this, and she's being encouraged to say it would be okay for her husband to say she broke down,
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and briefly let the jury go out of the courtroom. when they came back, she said the big answer, she did not want to explode the campaign, the john edwards presidential campaign, so she said she would go along with the cover-up. a very emotional moment. >> the whole thing is so bizarre, the idea that the youngs and rielle hunter go off on this cross country trip to try to stay below the radar, she talked about some of those bizarre moments today? >> that's absolutely right. and they went from city to city, all the way across the country, sort of twice to aspen, colorado. there's this one occasion in aspen, where they're all sitting in a restaurant and she ordered a rubin sandwich, it came back with the wrong sauce on the sandwich. her reaction, rielle hunter, was to pick up her cell phone and call her spiritual adviser on the west coast, according to the
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wife of andrew young, speak to him and try to get him to fix it. even though he wasn't there, she left a message. a bizarre behavior, if you will, described of rielle hunter, it would be nice to hear what she has to say about that. >> is she going to testify? >> reporter: we're told there's a very good chance she's going to testify. it's hard to see how she won't testify. she's sort of the big story in the room that's untold.ç >> joe, appreciate it, thanks. we're following a number of other stories. here is the "360 bulletin." delicate diplomatic situation has developed between the u.s. and china over the whereabouts of the chinese activist who escaped house arrest. there's reports he's at the u.s. embassy in beijing. the obama administration won't comment. meanwhile, secretary of state clinton is flying to china tonight for diplomatic and strategic talks. twin car bombs exploded in
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a syrian city today. at least 20 people were killed. eight died. dozens of people were injured. in new york city today, the installation of a beam on the 100th floor made one world trade center the tallest building in the city. surpassing the empire state building by 21 feet. when construction is completed in 2014, one world trade is expected to be more than 1,700 feet tall. a momentous day in the construction the building. >> thanks very much. jimmy kimmel was the host of the annual white house correspondents' dinner. president obama got some big laughs himself. just ahead, we'll talk to jimmy about the jokes that ended up on the cutting room floor. >> i did cut in advance, jokes that i thought were offensive. >> yeah. >> did you want to hear? >> sure, absolutely. >> maybe not offensive, but -- to me they're not offensive, but others told me they might be offensive.
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on the eve of the raid last year that killed bin ladin, president obama was at the annual white house correspondents association dinner. no one, obviously, was the wiser about the mission that was about to go down. this past weekend he was at the same dinner, jimmy kimmel was the host. the president got a lot of laughs. he got an assist from jay carney in the opening joke. >> could someone back there please turn off the president's mike? i think -- [ laughter ]
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the president's mike is hot. please turn it off. thank you. thank you. >> great. i got to get warmed up. ♪ i -- i'm so in love >> god, i totally had that. seriously, guys, what am i doing here? i'm the president of the united states and i'm 0ing f iopening y kimmel? i have the nuclear codes. why am i telling jokes to kim kardashian? it's great to be here this evening in the vast magnificent hilton ballroom. or what mitt romney would call a little fixer upper. >> he told me this would be a high profile event with some of the most powerful people in the they did not tell me i'd be looking directly at sophia vergara's cleavage. i saw you texting. she is from colombia. this is what women look like in
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colombia, what do you expect the secret service to do? mr. president, i know you won't be able to laugh at any of my jokes about the secret service, so cover your ears if that's physically possible. mr. president, you remember when the country rallied around you in the hopes of a better tomorrow? that was hilarious. there's a term for guys like president obama, probably not two terms, but -- it's kind of hard to be funny with the president of the united states sitting right next to you looking at you, and yet somehow day in and day out, joe biden manages to do it. i also want to thank mr. mills, my tenth grade history teacher who said i would never amount to anything if i kept screwing around in class. mr. mills, i'm about to high five the president of the united states. is that okay? >> let's do it. >> eat it, mills. >> fyi, kim kardashian was sitting in the front of the ballroom when president obama made the joke about her. she was one of many famous names in the crowd.
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not an easy crowd for any comic. i spoke earlier with jimmy kimmel. first of all, every time i talk to someone who has done this event, they say it is a very, very difficult crowd. how different was it than what you expected? >> it was pretty much exactly what i expected. it doesn't change the fact that it is a difficult crowd. about half the crowd feels like they can't laugh at your jokes. and the other half feels like they can't laugh at the other jokes. and the journalists depending on where they're sitting are nervous about laughing in front of the people about whom the jokes are being made. it's not exactly the ideal comedy environment. >> i went once and refused to ever go again. i will basically watch it on tv or online. it's like 3,000 people, it seems like a nightmare. it's also -- i imagine for you, it's hard enough following a president but following a president who is actually very funny has got to be hard.
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>> i think it's better. if the president bombs, people are going to be in a weird mood. i think it helps that the president was funny. >> i want to play a clip of something president obama said kind of teasing you. >> our chaperone for the evening is jimmy kimmel. [ cheers and applause ] who is perfect for the job since most of tonight's audience is in his key demographic. people who fall asleep during "nightline." >> i've sure you've been insulted a lot over the years, but being insulted by the president has got to feel pretty special? >> i felt like that was an accurate account of the people watching my show. i don't know if it was an insult or just a fact. >> were there any jokes you killed at the last minute because they were edgy or you suddenly got cold feet on them? >> yeah, there were some thingsç were playing better than others. it seemed like people liked the simpler jokes, i had a lot of
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inside jokes i skipped by a little bit because people seemed to be squarely focused on kim kardashian. i did cut in advance some jokes that i thought were offensive. did you want to hear? >> sure. absolutely. >> maybe not offensive -- to me they're not offensive. others told me they would be offensive. rick santorum is like the college roommate who would not leave you when your girlfriend came over but secretly wanted you to do it in front of him. >> i cannot comment either way. >> that is essentially the problem. >> yes. >> i'm going to try another one. i know why the president's ears are so big, it's to create the illusion of him listening. >> the joke that got a lot of laughter from mrs. obama is when you talked about the president covering his ears. if that's possible, i think you said. >> chris christie is a popular choice for the vp slot. many top republicans wanted him
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to run for president. but he said his heart just wasn't in it. well, chris, maybe your next heart will be in it. >> ouch. you had a lot of chris christie material. >> you must be a lot of fun at parties, anderson. >> that's why i don't go to parties, pretty much. i'm like your worst nightmare. >> i did have a lot of chris christie material. he was literally the elephant in the room, what are you going to do. >> aye-yi-yi. what's it like sitting next to the first lady. you sit there, knowing you are are not going to do your set until the end of the night. that has to be kind of a nightmare. what do you chat about? >> in a way it relaxed me. i was very nervous, and she is very nice. after five minutes of talking to her, you realize you're just talking to another person. believe it or not, that actually calmed me down and helped me not think about the fact that i to get up in front of all these people, including the president,
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and do a bunch of jokes to an audience that reacts like you. >> i know. i'm sorry about that. when i go back to my office, i will be breaking out laughing. >> yeah, if i were there to tickle you, you'd be hysterical. >> you don't want me to laugh, i laugh like a 12-year-old girl meeting justin bieber for the first time. >> that's right. once you start laughing it never, ever stops. >> it never stops. that is true. i want to play something you said about the cnn tables. >> where are the cnn tables? are they real tables or virtual tables? there you are. every election year, cnn comes up with new and increasingly amazing technology, they have the magic wall this year, they had the hologram four years ago, yet with all their technical wizardry, they still haven't figured out a way to make james carville look less like a hairless boiled cat. >> see, that i can laugh at. i can laugh at that. he's on contract.
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>> let me just say this, the hd, you look great always. you are indeed the silver fox, the hd is@)=qbuu)ju$e folks there at cnn. i think it's time to go back to just d. >> we may go back to d. there's always some fallout, last year it was donald trump who didn't seem to enjoy it. this year it seems like the strongest reaction you prompted was from keith olbermann. i want to play what you said. >> it's time for the fun part of the evening. i want everyone to look under your seats. under each one, you will find a copy of keith olbermann's resume. is keith here tonight? limo wouldn't pick him up? the thing about keith olbermann is, he's so likeable. >> now, he responded on twitter, which i think is the only medium forum he still has access to, that basically the reason you made fun of him was in revenge for him not doing your show. do you have any response to
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that? is that true? >> honestly, i swear i'm being completely honest. i had no idea they even asked him to do the show. i knew they were looking for a guest, and they called a bunch of people. i didn't really mean anything particular against keith, he was one of the people in the news this year, and, so he was -- i don't think i made any more fun of him than i did anyone else. >> i didn't think you were picking on him, just seemed like, given the venue, it seemed the appropriate thing to do. >> right. >> listen, i have -- >> he proved indeed how likeable he is with that tweet. >> yes, exactly. nothing like the ability to laugh at oneself. i thought you did a great job. thank you so much for being on. i appreciate it. >> thanks, anderson. good talking to you. glad i could get you laughing hard. jimmy kimmel will be right back, he's going to pop up in the "ridiculist." with b vitamins,
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so i brought it to mike at meineke. we gave her car a free road handling check. i like free. free is good. my money. my choice. my meineke. > i'm isha sesay with a 360 news and business bulletin. a federal jury began deliberations today in the case of a bosnian born american accused of plotting to bomb new york subway systems. prosecutors say a man conspired with two admitted terrorists in a 2009 plot to rig backpacks with explosives and blow them up. the plan was never executed. a follow-up on the story of the man who set loose 56 exotic animals from his farm in ohio before he committed suicide. the animals that survived have
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been kept at the columbus zoo since october. and now five of those animals will be returned to the man's widow. a state review board concluded today that the animals, two leopards, two monkeys and a bear are free of contagious diseases. delta airlines announced plans to buy an oil refinery in pennsylvania. they're buying the refinery ç outside philadelphia for 150 million. they plan to spend 100 million more to convert its infrastructure for jet fuel production. a billionaire in australia plans to build an exact replica of the titanic, except with modern technology. he's commissioned a chinese shipyard to build it starting next year. it's expected to be ready to sail in 2016. anderson? >> thanks. coming up, more with jimmy kimmel and his theory on my laugh. t
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time now for the ridiculist. i don't know if you're aware of this but there have been some occasions during this show where i have started laughing and can't stop, when words come up, like titmouse or some other such words. words like pit -- titmouse or asphalt. i can't help, i have the sense of humor of a 12-year-old. >> this is from ac 360's anderson cooper's show on cnn.
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at the end of the show he does something called the ridiculist. i guess to end things on a light hearted note. it tickled mr. cooper to say the list. >> the girls striking back with a tap from a pussy willow branch. [ laughter ] >> i'm not going to let you do this one. all right. [ laughter ] let it out. >> i think anderson cooper is high. how else do you explain that?
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the word pussy willow is not that funny. no word is that funny. nothing has ever been that funny. i'd like to see drug tests all around. and get a sample from wolf blitzer while you're at it. he's starting to look like the guy on the zigzag packet. first, let's see the zigzag >> first, let's see the zigzag packet of which mr. kimmel speaks. >> yeah, there may be a resemblance. i was talking to jimmy earlier about the speech at the white house correspondents dinner. i asked him about his thmosy on my outburst. take a look. >> let me get this straight, the man who started badgering the president of the united states about legalizing marijuana, you're accusing me of being high? >> i'm not accusing. i'm just trying to explain that. maybe you're