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donald trump. he doesn't need to do it. he's on the record, h he's said he thinks this is not an issue that people ought to be talking about anymore. he says he thinks that president obama was born in america. let's let it all go. let's stop nitpicking and talk about the issues people care about. like jobs. >> let's talk about this supposed war on women. i know you battled it out with governor rick perry, the state of texas. he defunded planned parenthood in your state. it to talk about something mitt romney said about cutting the deficit. >> is the program so critical it's worth borrowing many frun china to pay for it? of course you get rid of obamacare, that's an easy one. planned parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. >> so why is rick perry wrong for wanting to get rid of planned parenthood but mitt romney isn't. if romney becomes president, perry is governor. i know planned parenthood, it's funded by the government, a third of it is funded by the
government. where do they get that third of funding from? >> where he will, i think the point here is that planned parenthood does abortions. and i think that mitt romney and governor perry and myself do not believe that government should in any way be funding abortions. because so many people don't believe that that's the right thing to do and their taxpayer dollars should not be spent on doing abortions. >> but you disagreed with rick perry on the issue. >> what i disagreed is that they are not allowing the side of planned parenthood to give the services to women, the contraceptive services, the mammograms, the kind of health care that these women are not getting anywhere else. >> so given that health care -- sorry for interrupting, is mitt romney wrong for wanting to
defund planned parenthood? >> i think he's talking about the abortions that planned parenthood does, not the health care services. we don't -- i mean, myself, mitt romney, no one believes that we should defund the health care services that are given to poor women. if they want to find an alternative place to do those, then i think that's the right way to go. but to talk about defunding the only organization that does these contraceptive and health care services that protect women from cancer getting out of control before they catch it, then i think we're talking about having to give those services. so i think that was the dust-up. >> senator kay bailey hutchinson, i appreciate you coming on. thank you so much. and quick note to all of you, "donald drump will join wolf blitzer live. and now, as we roll on, top of the houring i'm brooke baldwin.
thank you so much for being with me here on this tuesday. a quick look at the white house. 13 awards, the presidential medal of freedoms. you're going to recognize a couple of the faces here. rock legend bob dylan, madeleine albright, former astronaut and senator john glenn. tennessee basketball legend pat summitt. those are a couple of the names. definitely stick around for that, but first, want to take you to the northeast. syria's dreadful spiral into an allout war. they' got fighting all across the country today. but we are getting these new details theer about the massacre that happened in syria friday night. in total, 108 victims, 49 of whom were children.
this is newly acquired video tho shows when and where it happened. do you hear that? this is friday evening. you can hear the screams, the tank shells exploding. but that is not the way most of the victims died here. take a listen. >> the majority have been the result of house to house summary executions of armed men going into houses and killing men, women and children inside. >> the syrian government massacred women and children. it's a shock charge, is it not to hear this from the united nations?
>> employing once again that narrative we heard from the beginning of this crisis that armed terrorist gangs are responsible. but a 10-year-old boy spoke to human rights watches and said he saw syrian forces go into his home and kill his mother. they were responsible for the house to house assassinations and executions that happened in hulap .hula is not far from homs which suffered more than a month of government shelling. and parts of this town are controlled kbi anti-assad free syrian army rebels. and this is part of the reason that it's been targeted so hard. anyone entering the house of em
hoes of the civilians and slitting the throats of 5, 7, 8-year-old children. this is something that shocked the entire world and for good reason. vul of this, these ambassadors from certain countries have been expelled. syrian ambassadors in certain western countries. >> that's shocking but i want to point something out. this russian newspaper "pravda" is questioning the authenticity of some of the video of these child-aid victims. it's using the term photographic manipulation. they go on to say, the only question remains is whether this massacre was committed by syrian rebels or by the british and american special forces reportedly already inside the country. before i ask you the question here, it's worth just reminding everyone that it was the russians who ran cover for slobodan milosevic in bosnia as he massacred the bosnian
muslims. now it appears they' essentially doing the same thing for bashar al assad. are the russians not complicit in this killing and can they not be held accountable? >> well, that's an international legal matter that i cannot address. but diplomatically, russia is very much aligned with syria. they're very much on the side of the syrian regime. there are reports that arms are still being shipped to russia. as far as russia and iran as well closer to syria, they're close diplomatic allies. they vetoed two resolutions condemning syria. but an interesting shift did happen with regards to the nonbinding statement that was adopted by the u.n. security council. russia supported it. it doesn't mean that russia is on the verge, for instance, of putting pressure on the assad regime and asking bashar a al assad to step down, but it does mean in the aftermath that
russia felt compelled at least to join members of the u.n. security council and condemn the killing. that said, we heard from the foreign minister saying look, you need to investigate this killing in hula enit's possible that other actors were involved. and a much more tempered nuanced statement than we're hearing from france who called it an ownous crime and expelled the syrian ambassador from paris. though her case is a little bit more complicated because she's also an ambassador to unesco in paris. so it could take longer than 72 hours for her to be thrown out of the country. >> but still, the russian newspaper to imply photographic manipulation. i appreciate you putting this in context for us, this massacre. 49 children killed. thank you. >> a lot more for us over the next hour. watch this. >> it's known as a the flame.
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>> one of the world's biggest banks may have no way around default. ben stein says the debt is so large, america won't be able to pay it off without major changes to our tax systems. ben stein joins us line from los angeles. nice to see you. i read your diary entry in "the american spectator." and i've got to be honest. it's depressing. why is -- >> it's extremely depressing. it's really, really depressing. >> so given that, why do you think the u.s. treasury is in such dire straits? >> well, we are spending $4 billion a day more than we're taking in in order to stimulate the economy. it's not working very well, although we don't know what would happen if we didn't spend the extra $4 billion a day.
we were adding to the national debt roughly $1.4 trillion a year. we couldn't even pay it off before when it was $5 trillion. now it's $15 trillion. it took 224 years to get up to $ $5 trillion in national debt. in roughly the next 10 years, we had another triple that to $15 trillion. there's just no way we can pay off the debt. we'll need to have massive inflation in which prices rise in a way that will torture people or we default on the debt. there's no other way out. i'm not going to say it's this year, next year, five years. it's just going to happen. >> hang on. i know despite this doomsday picture that you write about in your article, i want to rattle off these quotes. jobs and opportunities are thriving again, virginia is growing strong, so is our future.
john kasich saying we're alive again, we're out of the ditch, we're growing. nevada governor brian sandoval, nevada on the move again. we're seeing signs of economic improvement. are they wrong then? >> we are seeing some signs oof economic improvement and signs of not economic improvement. whatever tien li little bit of economic improvement they are, they are not enough to generate re knew to allow us to start paying off the national debt. a certain point, the national debt will rise at such a level that not even the chinese, not even the japanese or the british will buy our debt. it will have to be financed by printing in money from the federal reserve. that's a recipe for why germany's super hyper inflation. we have our choice. we can either adopt ideas like the incredibly good ideas of the simpson/bowles restriction and try to decrease spending and
increase taxes or jump off the cliff. >> well, let's avoid the cliff. you have ways to avoid this negative growth. i want to begin with this, i just want to quote you. you write, taxes cut automatically when unemployment reaches levels. that would stimulate demand. taxes raise to create a surplus when there's ever a frothy recovery that would take money out of the system and retard demand. let's keep the quote up on the screen. two words you use, uncomfortable levels. let me begin with that. what is uncomfortable? >> well, i think uncomfortable is any level above 6%. certainly 4% level would be quite comfortable at this stage, although flot comfortable for people who are employed. but when we're up around 8% with very large numbers of people leaving the labor force when they're discoveraged, that's definitely uncomfortable. the problem is if we keep taxes lo e, which i think we have to
do, we are adding to the debt at a colossal rate. i have to say we have gotten ourselves into a box and there's no way out of that box except some kind of default or large inflation. we've gotten that incredibly feignful step out of the way, we have to go to the old time religion of balancing budgets over the cycle. deficits, employment situation when it's poor, surpluses when it's good. i want to give credit to our friends mr. clinton, law school classmate that he had the right idea. >> yeah, he created a lot of jobs, didn't he? >> he did a great job. he did a great job economically. a great job. >> we'll see who gets that job come november. they have quite the task when it comes to the economy. >> it's an impossible task. >> who do you think will win, quickly? >> obama. >> ben stein, to uh.
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out a larmg larger mortgage and the rate she is now. >> should she take out an arm or a fixed? when we think of arm, i just sort of shutter. i think that's too risky right now. >> granted, the mortgage industry has created different types of mortgages to make home purchasing a lot easier. i think for individuals who plan to stay in their property for five years or less, then that might be suitable. i'm more of a traditional type of guy, i like that 20% down. that's actually the better way to go as far as i'm concerned. >> send it back to you. >> thank you. forget the debris. crews finding radiation in all places, fish off the coast of california. radiation from the nuclear crisis in japan. plus, new guidelines for hormone replacement therapy.
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a couple stories here, radiation levels in tuna suddenly higher than normal. and new concerns about hormone replacement therapy. time to play "reporter roulette." first two casey wian los angeles. so i hear this about blue fin tuna is a very high fine grade of tuna. should people be worried about eating it in the. >> well, according to the scientists, brook, they shouldn't be worried, at least not yet. last year, 15 blue fin tuna caught off the coast of san diego were found by researchers
to contain 10 times the normal level of radiation found in blue fin tuna in previous years. they say that's a big surprise because they expected the radiation to dissipate as the tuna made their way all the way across the pacific ocean from japan to the coast of california. now they stress the levels of radiation they found were only 3% higher than the level of radiation that sort of naturacuy exists in the ocean. and compare it to something a lot of people relate to. i had a banana this morning, that contained 10 times more radiation than the blue fin tuna did. but they're concerned about the tuna they're going to catch this summer. because those were much younger when they were exposed to the radiation. they say for now the blue fin tuna, no matter where you get it from is safe to eat. >> you should be eating more than a banana for breakfast, by the way, but that's another segment.
we have a question on hormone replacement therapy. we're talking menopause. >> it used to be, sort of in our mother's day, they would tell women, menopause, go on hormones, stay on them for the rest of your life. feel young, forever young, you won't get heart disease, you won't get dementia. you'll be just like you were when you were 25 or some form thereof. n . >> not good advice? >> not good advice. it doesn't work and, in fact, puts you at higher risk for getting all sorts of bad things. it puts you at a higher risk for having a stroke. a higher risk for dementia and for all sorts of things. what the stasing force is saying now, it's not great to take it long term. there's a caveat. so the cav nat is, if a woman is
just starting menopause and she's having terrible hot flashes, taking low levels hormone replacement therapy for a short period of time -- >> that's the key. finite. >> finite. that nay work. it's perfectly fine. talk to your doctor. but before you do, go to kpr nn.com/empoweredpatient. we have the whole sort of laying out the land on hormone replacement therapy. >> an allout bral and it's a retired firefighter saying he was beaten up for telling these drunks to leave his family alone. and he is now suing. does he have a case? this country was built by working people.
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gathering and waiting and seated. we are minutes away. i have one eye on this. we're about to see the president here. this is a tremendous, tremendous honor for these 13 americans who will be receiving the highest level, the highest honor for any civilian, the presidential medal of freedom. as soon as we see the president and some of these recipients, including bob dylan, madeleine albright, john glenn, coach pat summitt, we will take it live. so stick around for that. but for now, i will move on. and talk about this beatdown at the ballpark. this retired new york city fire is suing the yankees for getting beat up by some drunk guys. he's going after the stadium and also the beverage vendor, just on a supervisual level here. does this guy even have a case? >> he has quite a strong case. and i hate to say it because i'm
from the bronx, love the bronx bombers. have been a life long yankee fan. but certainly he does have a case. there are these laws called the dram shop laws. they used to sell alcohol in little small amounts of liquid called drams. the bottom line is pretty much all states have these laws, but especially new york certainly has the law that provides a cause of action for injuries caused by someone who is visibly intoxicated, especially if you sell that liquor to that person. so, you know, i don't think i can stress enough the fact that certainly, certainly this gentleman has a case. >> so we got in touch with your favorite team today, the yankees. and they gave us a big old no comment. do you think this is something that we should be dealing with publicly, commenting on publicly, or should they just stay quiet and see how the whole
thing plays out? >> i'm sure their attorneys are saying don't say anything. these are cases that are filed historically. . unfortunately beer and baseball sometimes go together. certainly a lot of investigations has to be done. as to determining whether or not these gentlemen were, in fact, visibly intoxicated and whether or not they were told that liquor right there in the bronx at yankee stadium. >> thank you. got to get to break. we're watching and waiting the presidential medal of freedom ceremony.
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again. they have suffered a deadly earthquake. at least 15 people died when this 5.8 magnitude quake hit northern italy today in the same area the 6.0 earthquake hit back on may 20. 70 people died then. one aftershock was caught on camera. take a look. >> i will never feel safe because we have -- we're still having quakes. sdeive so every three to five minutes. >> they are now introducing the honorees of the presidential medal of freedom.
♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. ♪ ♪ >> thank you. thank you very much. everybody please have a seat and welcome to the white house. it is an extraordinary pleasure to be with all of you to present this year's medal of freedom. and i have to say just looking around the room, this is a
packed house which is a testament to how cool this group is. everybody wanted to check them out. this isle highest civilian honor this country can bestow. which is ironic because nobody sets out to win it. nobody ever picks up a guitar or fights a disease or starts a movement thinking you know what, in i keep this up in 2012, i could get a medal in the white house from a guy named barack obama. this wasn't in the plan. but that's exactly what makes this award so special. every one of today's honorees is blessed with an extraordinary amount of talent. we could fill this room many times over with people who are
talented and driven. what sets these men and women apart is the incredible impact they've had on so many people, not in short blinding bursts, but steady over the course of a lifetime. organize the honorees on this stage and the ones who couldn't be here have moved us with their words. they have inspired us with that i shall r their actions. they've enriched our lives and changed our lives for the better. some are household names. others have labored quietly out of the public eye. most of them may never fully appreciate the influence or the job they've done. but that's our job to let them know how extraordinary their impact has been on our lives. so today we present this amazing
group with one more accolade for the life they live. and that's the presidential medal of freedom. i'm going to take an opportunity to brag about each of you. starting with madeleine albright. usually madeline does the talking. once in a while she lets her jewelry do the talking. when saddam hussein called her a snake, she wore a serpent on her lapel the next time she visited baghdad. when slobodan milosevic referred to her as a goat, a new pin appeared in her selection. as the first woman to serve as the top diplomat, her courage and toughness helped bring paste to the balkans and paved way for progress to some of the most unstable corners of the world. and as an immigrant herself, the granddaughter of holocaust
victims who fled her native czechoslovakia as a child, madeline brought a unique perspective to the job. this is one of my favorite stories. once at a naturalization ceremony, an ethiopian man said only in america can a refugee meet the secretary of state. and she said only in america can a refugee become the secretary of state. we're extraordinarily honored to have madeline here. and obviously i think it's hair to say that i speak for one of your successors who is so appreciative of the work that you did. it was a scorching hot day in 1963 and mississippi was on the verge of a massacre. a final procession of medgar evers had just disbanded and a group was throwing rocks at policemen. and suddenly a white man in
shirts sleeves walked towards the protesters and talked them into going home peacefully. and that man was john doar. he was the face of the justice department in the south. he was proof that the federal government was listening. and over and over the years john escorted james meredith to the univty of mississippi. he walked alongside the selma march and the voting rights act of 1965. in the words of john lewis he gave civil rights workers a reason not to give up on those in power, and he did it by never giving up on then, and i think it's fair to say i might not be here had it not been for his work. bob dylan started sing other people's songs, but as he says, there came a point where i
wanted to say because what i wanted to say nobody else was writing. born in hibbing, minnesota, a town where you couldn't be a rebel. it was too cold. bob moved to new york at age 19. by the time he was 23, bob's voice, with its weight, its unique power was redefining like not only what music sounded like, but the music it carried, but how it made people feel. today everybody from bruce springsteen to u2 owes bob a debt of gratitude, there's not a bigger giant in the history of american music. a all these years later he's still chasing that sound and still searching for a little bit of truth, and i have to say that i am a really big fan. in the 1960s more than 2 million people died from smallpox every
year. just over a decade later that number was zero. 2 million to zero. thanks in part to dr. bill fauxi foege. bill helped have a vaccination strategy to eliminate smallpox from the face of the earth and when that was won he moved on to other diseases. in one remote village, after vek ain eighting people, he had explained to people to come to the village and see the tallest man in the world. today the world owes that really tall man a great debt of gratitude. on the morning that john glenn blasted off into space america stood still, for half an hour
the phones stopped ringing in chicago police headquarters and in new york subway, drivers offered a play-by-play account over speakers, and the president had a breakfast with leaders and offered viewers to hear the famous words god speed, john glenn. the first american to orbit the earth, john glenn became a hare owe. as a senator he made a difference. in hks second trip in 1977 he defied the odds once again, but he reminds everybody don't tell everybody he's lived a historic life. all living, don't put it in past tense. he's still got a lot of stuff going on.
george hirabayashi knew what it felt to stand alone. as a student in the university of washington, gordon was only one of three japanese-americans to define executive order that forced thousands of families to leave their home, jobs and civil rights behind and move to internment camps in world war ii. he took his case all of the way to the supreme court and he lost. it would be another 40 years before that decision was reversed giving asian-americans everywhere a small measure of justice. in gordon's words, it takes a crisis to tell us that unless citizens are willing to stand up for the constitution it's not worth the paper it's written on. this country is better off because of citizens like him who are willing to stand up. similarly when ceasar chavez sa
down dolores huerta and told her they should start a union she thought he was joking. she was the single mother of seven children so she obviously did not have a lot of free time, but dolores had been an elementary school teacher and remembered seeing children come to school hungry and without shoes so in the end she agreed. workers everywhere are glad she agreed. without negotiating experience, dolores helped lead a worldwide boycott to help growers to agree to the the countriy first farmworker contracts and ever since she's fought to give more people a seat at the table. don't wait to be invited, she says, step in there. on a personal note, dolores was very gracious when i told her i had stolen her slogan,si se
puede, yes, we can, and she went easy because dolores does not play. for years, georgetown knew he was a great professor and possessed a photographic memory, he served as a courier during the darkest days of world war ii. the resistance fighters told him jews were being murdered on a massive scale and smuggled into the warsaw ghetto and a polish death camp to see for himself. he took that information to president roosevelt giving the first accounts of the holocaust and imploring the world to take action. it was years before jan was able to tell his story. i don't need courage anymore so i teach compassion. growing up in georgia in the late 1800s, juliette gordon low
was not exactly typical. she flew airplanes. she went swimming. she experimented with electricity for fun and she recognized early on that in order to keep on with the changing times women would have to be prepared. so at age 52, after meeting the founder of the boy scouts in england, juliette came home and call herd co called her cousin and said i've got something for the women and the girls and we'll start tonight. girls gained skooip -- they include ceos, astronauts and secretary of state. they include girls of different faiths just the way juliette would have wanted.
toni morrison is used to a little distraction as a single mother working as a publishing by day often with her two sons tugging on her earrings. is once her baby spit up on her tablet so she wrote around it. the circumstances may not have been ideal, but the words that came out were magical. toni morrison's prose brings us that kind of moral and emotional intensity that few writers ever attempt. from the s.a.m. of solomon, to toni reaches us deeply using a tone that is lyrical, precise, distinct and inclusive, she believes that language arcs toward the place where meaning might lie. the rest of us are lucky to be following along for the ride. during oral argument, justice john paul stevens often began
his line of questioning with a polite may i interrupt or may i ask a question? and you can imagine the lawyers would say okay. after which he would just as politely force a lawyer to stop dancing around and focus on the most important issues of the case, and that was his signature style. modest, insightful, well-prepared and razor sharp. he is the third longest-serving justice in the history of the court and justice stevens applied throughout his career his clear and graceful manner to the defense of individual rights and the word of law, always favoring a pragmatic solution over an ideological one. unsuspecting tourists would ask him to take their picture in front of the court and at his vacation home in florida, he was john from arlington, better known for his