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a man chewed off the face of his victim. let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, tipping point. the latest syrian pictures of 49 murdered children in syria have made people ask whether america must step in. the uprising has left more than 12,000 syrians dead. with the rest of the world watching from the sidelines. today the only response was symbolic. eight countries including the united states expelling syrian diplomats. in the year when the president is running on his foreign policy victories syria is becoming a lightning rod. >> this administration has a feckless foreign policy which abandons american leadership. i know because i visit with these people that they are ready
to help these people and they are helping them some. it cries out for american leadership. >> and today mitt romney said the president's quote lack of leadership has resulted in a policy of paralysis and we should work with partners to arm the opposition. now, that is something a lot of people -- that's a lightning rod in itself. and the obama administration is holding firm on its stance of no military action. >> no military action is always an option. and we haven't in this case removed options from the table. we do not believe that militarization for the situation in syria at this point is the right course of action. we believe it would lead to greater chaos and greater carnage. >> but will american intervention stop blood shed? that is the key question. let's look at the last time. it was a year ago in libya the
united states spent more than a billion dollars on air strikes with nato. today the weak transitional government says it has to delay elections and tribes are fighting and al qaeda and islamists say they created their own country. which will be the sixth biggest in africa. getting rid of gadhafi had a lot of unintended consequences which can blow back on america. but there is another country that has the influence to stop the massacre. vladimir putin's russia is bashar al assad's arms dealer. assad bought nearly $5 million of weapons in five years, that's 10% of the arms exports in the past decade. reuters reported a russian ship was expected to arrive this weekend. russia signed a deal to sell fighter jets to syria which already flies 555 russian mig fighter jets. russia has nearly 5,000 tanks including the t-72 which has a
125 millimeter gun, with a range of about 6,000 feet. it's russian. add the 4,000 plus surface to air missiles syria's military is one of the largest in the region thanks to russia. here now jamie rubin, former assistant secretary of state to form affairs. and andrew tabler. let me start with you, jamie. russia has -- there is a means question and a will question. let's talk about the will because sure they have come around to condemning the massacre of children. but they still seem to be with a ship going in reportedly now with weapons very much still supporting bashar al assad. >> i don't see a lot of evidence that the russians feel pressure from the world, from these crises and the massacres on the ground to suddenly do what i know washington and some of our allies in europe are hoping which is to engage and convince the leadership in syria they
need to change assad and move him out. what they are calling the yemen option where the united states was able to do in yemen was to help with the saudi arabian involvement to get that leader out and that calmed a civil unrest. i don't see russia having what you mentioned the will to do this. they have as you said a good military relationship with the syrians. they don't feel the pressure that we feel when they see people being killed. they blame both sides. >> they have repeatedly blamed both sides, andrew. what about the means? it's one thing to sell and be reliant on syria for 10% of your weapons sales. that is a powerful incentive to keep doing what you've been doing all along. even if they stop what means does russia have to stop what is happening in syria? >> the theory is russians have assets inside the syrian military to convince the generals who run the military to oust the assad family and eject
them from the country. that would be similar to the yemen plan. the problem with that though is yemen wasn't a minority dominated regime. they were dominated by the sect from the regime that the generals hail. they hang together especially when under pressure. i agree with jamie. i don't think we see any sign that the russians intend to do that. that is the hope. that plan, that yemen option is an old plan. it was recently respun in the newspapers. it goes back six to nine months. it's hardly something new. most of it has been discredited. >> what will the obama administration then end up doing? this puts them in a tough spot. it looks like they can't force russia to do it or get russia to do it with them. or whatever it might be. as these images continue to come in it does continue to put pressure on the president or does it not? >> i think it does and it doesn't. it does in the sense that syria has been going on for a year now.
now there are over 10,000 people dead. this is a pretty dramatic uprising in the region. the part that i think people haven't begun to focus on is what i would call the major difference between this and libya. which you mentioned. >> right. >> libya served a moral purpose. we helped the people avoid a massacre. after gadhafi was gone the middle east didn't change. if assad goes, however, if we were to contribute to the overthrow of assad that would be a dramatic plus for the west, because assad and syria is iran's only entry point into the middle east. that would go away instantly with the end of the assad regime. >> if we knew who was coming in afterwards. >> almost anyone afterwards would not have the relationship that assad has developed with the iranians. >> thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate it. andrew and jamie.
it's a tough one. a moral and financial and military conundrum for the u.s. still outfront, two americans held in the death of a foreign national. and what in the world is holding up the john edwards verdict? this has been going on and on. updates every day. they're breaking for lunch, they want this. and apparently all kinds of bizarre stuff is going on. the judge made an unusual warning. we have it and then this -- >> i think if you look at the birth certificate and you tell me really -- you analyze the birth certificate. there are many people that don't agree with that birth certificate. they don't think it's authentic, wolf. >> when you say many people don't agree -- >> many people. >> give me a name of an authority who says it. give me a name. >> there are many people. i don't give names. >> donald trump doubling down on the birther issue just before taking the stage with the
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under fire for holding a fundraiser in las vegas with donald trump. there is a reason. it's the birther controversy. listen. >> a lot of people don't agree with that birth certificate. >> if the state of hawaii authorizes it and says this is official, he was born in hawaii on this date. here it is. why do you deny that? >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. >> how can you say that -- >> many people do not think it was authentic. his mother was not in the hospital. there are many other things that came out. >> after that cnn contributor, david frum took to twitter writing that was a big steaming plate of blank spaghetti. trump just delivered on cnn for his friend, mitt romney. what does mitt romney gain by having trump with him tonight? john avlon, reihan salam and
jamal simmons is with me right now. mitt romney probably pretty upset right now. >> as well he should be. you remember the pitch for the dinner with trump and romney was the idea of reaching out to donors or making donations as small as $3. >> right. you win a dinner or something like that. >> who knows what would be served at this dinner. some trump stew perhaps. you are looking at $3 donations and mitt romney has not attracted small dollar donations. the reason the donations are important is partly because those are voters who say i buy into this campaign. i'm vested in the campaign. and then you have a list of people who are more active and engaged supporters. you can use that list for a variety of reasons. is donald trump the best way to gin up and active and engaged voters? >> he's not. that was theory is that he would help raise money for the campaign. these low dollar donors.
here is the point. donald trump made himself completely radioactive to the romney campaign. he's stepping all over his story. a guy whose name used to be synonymous with success. maybe he is better at building a brand. he is a clownish conspiracy theorist who lit his hair on fire hours ago on cnn again. >> make a hair joke about donald trump. >> i will do it again. here's the point. he wouldn't be doing more damage to the romney campaign if he was a secret double agent for the obama campaign. he is their best friend right now because he's so totally out of control and making a fool of himself on this totally settled issue. >> jamal, to make it very clear for those watching where romney stands on this, his campaign put out a statement saying mitt romney said he believes president obama was born in the united states. the democrats can talk about donald trump all they want. mitt romney is going to talk about jobs. mitt romney has said he doesn't agree with all the people who
support him. does he need to come out himself personally and vocally and say something about this, jamal? >> he does need to come out personally and say something about this. but he needs to in general start standing up for common sense. he wouldn't stand up to rush limbaugh when he called that law student a slut and wouldn't stand up to rick santorum and he said the president was a snob because he wanted kids to go to college. now won't stand up to donald trump when he says the president is not born in the united states. at some point he has to put the loo loos back in the cage and tell them i would love to have your support but not under these circumstances. meanwhile the president of the united states spent the day with madeleine albright and toni morrison and bestowing these medals on them. and mitt romney is with donald trump. it is a great contrast for the obama people. >> here is an ad the obama campaign is playing about this issue. here it is. >> good afternoon ladies and gentlemen.
>> we're scared of an obama presidency. >> i have to tell you he's a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared as president of the united states. >> i have read about him. he's an arab. >> no ma'am. no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with. >> i've got to say one thing that frustrates me is that there are decent family men who are arabs. that is a different issue. that is a whole separate issue. here's the thing. when you are running a campaign it totally makes sense let's make mitt romney apologize for everyone who seems vaguely connected with conservatism in some broad sense rather than mitt romney allow him to make this case based on the state of the economy regarding whether or not president obama should be re-elected.
i think that similarly in 2008 there were folks to make barack obama apologize. for example, the whole notion that lipstick on a pill was an insult to sarah palin. >> there's a fair analogy, but he's choosing to campaign with him, appear with him. he is using the good things about trump then you are morally obligated that what this person is saying is ridiculous. if he was. campaigning with him, i could hear you. >> absolutely. that's the key point. if this was a random -- >> i will say that donald trump is not the ideal choice. also, look. there are a lot of people who are going to be surrogates. who are in the mix here. do i think romney made a bad call by campaigning? i think they might be thinking the same thing. see what they have to say about it. >> this is not a self appointed surrogate. roaming the airwaves. this is somebody who the campaign and candidate has chosen to embrace. at some point, it is a measure of leadership to say that is too far. that is appealing to the worst instincts. that does not represent me and
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our third story outfront tonight, drugs known as bath salts being blamed for a gruesome scene in miami. this is a naked man gnawing off another man's face. obviously, that sounds horrific and it is. i want to warn you that the pictures with we're about to show you are very disturbing. 31-year-old rudy eugene was described to be in a zombie-like state when caught by police. armando aguilar, president of the miami fraternal order of the police believes he wasn't der the influence of bath salts.
when he was found what he had done to this man's face victim was 65 years old. apparently all that is left is his goatee. his eye balls were gone. charles sophy is here. doctor, have you heard of anything like this? it is awful to talk about some of the things i just said that this man did to this victim's face. >> absolutely. there are many reactions that your brain can have with a substance like this. these are very cocaine-like substances. it will have a very aggressive reaction in your brain. the behavior that comes out of it could be aggression to ripping off someone's face. severe, severe reactions. they are not able to be tested. these drugs. we are putting substances in the our bodies that we don't know what is going to happen when we do that.
>> so when we use the name bath salts which i guess is the street name. you said cocaine-like. what would be in it? does it vary every single concoction? what is in quote/unquote bath salts? >> that is a really great question. the bottom line, these are not substances that have been properly studies. so we don't really know what's in them. we just see the kinds of reactions and can kind of guess what chemicals in the brain they are reacting with. then hence, the behavior. that is why the studies need to be done. and then we can make the testing that needs to be in place to be able to see if people have taken these or not. when they're behaving this way. right now we could do a test and not know that they have taken them. >> my understanding is that eugene had been at a music festival and the police said these bath salts were something people were doing. is this something that is spreading, that you're hearing more and more about? i'm thinking back to the days when meth and meth heads was an
occasional story you heard out of the midwest and then became a national crisis. >> absolutely. over the past year we have heard more and more i have had more and more patients with this type of issue. they are out there. i think there is going to be a ban if there isn't already in the availability of them until studies and tests can be developed. we are hearing more about it. >> where do people usually get them? the drug. >> most of the time they are sold at head shops under various names. they were available over the counter until recently. >> one of the side effects that appeared in this case was the man was naked, the perpetrator. is this something that would go along with that? what in the drug would cause him to do that? and he was growling. he was growling like he was some sort of a dog as he was eating the man. >> what is happening is you are putting substances into your brain and moving brain chemicals around and then there's going to be behaviors that come from that, anything from growling to
animalistic aggressive behaviors. to convulsions. you could be looking zombie-like. you are in a trance and not in control of your own body. >> thank you very much. truly bizarre and horrific story. an irish national found strangled to death after a concert in japan. two americans who partied with her are being held right now for that crime. and the strange trial of john edwards. the trial is getting stranger. flirting with a juror. wardrobe malfunctions. a warning from the judge. yes, this is america. support team usa and show our olympic spirit right in our own backyard. so we combined our citi thankyou points to make it happen. tom chipped in 10,000 points. karen kicked in 20,000. and by pooling more thankyou points from folks all over town, we were able to watch team usa... [ cheering ] in true london fashion. [ male announcer ] now citi thankyou visa card holders can combine the thankyou points they've earned and get even greater rewards.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about where we focus on our own reporting. from the front lines, tonight, dharun ravi, the rutgers student found guilty of using a webcam to spy on his roommate while he was with another man, has issued a formal apology and says i accept responsibility for and regret my thoughtless, insensitive, immature, stupid and childish choices that i made. my behavior and actions which at no time were motivated by hate, bigotry, prejudice or desire to hurt, humiliate or embarrass anyone were the wrong choices and decisions. i apologize to everyone for
those choices. ravi turned himself in on thursday. he faces a $10,000 fine. a new study has found that blue fin tuna off the coast of california carrying radioactive contamination that leaked from japan's reactor are a concern. small amounts of the radioactive sesium was found in the 15 tuna caught in august of last year. it is not enough to be harmful to humans experts say. they tell us that this is predictable and unfortunately a sign of things to come. there are a couple of big name tech companies that had a grim day. facebook still on that list. the stock fell by another 10% closing below $29 a share. meantime, blackberry maker research in motion had a business update. we checked it out. the company has hired bankers to explore its options. what that means, exploring whether it should be bought by another company and says it will
lose money this quarter and going to fire people. the shares of the company fell. it's been 299 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? it was a good day for stocks. other than those tech ones. all three of the major indices were up half a percent. our fourth story. major tension in the john edwards trial. this has become a saga. everyone thought it would be one way or the other and would happen quickly. it has been seven days. they didn't want to be done the friday before memorial weekend. they will come back tomorrow. judge told jurors today many things could happen and that some aren't good. the judge held two closed door meetings with lawyers on both sides. it was about a quote, juror issue. this came after very strange reports that the four alternate jurors are dressing alike and one alternate juror was described as flirting with john edwards. the former president candidate is on trial for allegedly using
campaign money to hide his affair and child with rielle hunter. joe johns and paul callan are both here. joe johns let me start with you. i'm trying to understand exactly what is happening here. it does sound strange. what is behind the tension in the courtroom as far as you can tell? >> this is a tough case to try for one thing. they have been at it a long time. they could be tied up in knots. we only get to see this jury probably about 10 or 15 minutes every day. they come in right before lunch and file out before dinner before they go home. you get to see them just for a couple of minutes. what i have seen in body language, arms crossed, heads in hands. i have seen people looking down at the floor. read into that what you will. it's a tough case to try. when you look at this jury you also got to know this case is about politics and you know how divided this country is over politics. >> that is true even as people
try to do what every juror does. take their job seriously. the judge gave jurors instructions to deliberate together and not in small groups. does that mean they're deliberating in kabuls together and not together? >> it is a clear indication of a kabul because usually when you get to this stage they have been going at it for seven days. they are requesting exhibits to be sent in. it sounds like a majority, maybe seven or eight, are trying to beat up a minority who are holding out. i don't know which side they are on but that is what it sounds like. >> joe, you were jumping in there. >> yeah. that's absolutely right. i was a jury foreman 100 years ago. sometimes juries form teams like the yeas against the nays. a against b. the judge had been trying to get them not to do that. she has given the instruction to them now twice this session today and the last session on friday trying to tell them not to do that.
still it's sort of human nature. it's not impossible to get a verdict like that but very difficult. >> what about this dressing alike by the alternate jurors and one saying possible flirtation. i mean, the dressing alike. is this bizarre? >> the dressing alike is bizarre but plays into this group mentality thing that they have formed a group of their own. they are on a team and now the team is dressing the same way. so i see why the judge is giving this instruction you are all supposed to be deliberating together. these are the alternates who are dressing strangely. on the flirting thing if it was flirting, if it was flirting, it was clearly improper behavior. during the trial lawyers are always looking to see is a juror making eye contact with me or with the defendants in the case. >> quickly, will we get a verdict or will it be a hung jury? >> they are continuing to deliberate.
the blagojevich case two weeks they got a verdict on one count but they got a verdict. i don't think we can say no verdict yet. i think there is a possibility of a verdict. >> thanks to paul and joe johns. we'll be covering that tomorrow to see if there's a verdict tomorrow. now two young american men are in japanese police custody tonight following the mysterious strangling death of another exchange student. 21-year-old nicola furlong was found dead in a hotel room. investigators say furlong and a friend met the american men another a nicki minaj concert and then went back with them to their hotel. one suspect is 23-year-old james blackston, a hip-hop dancer. police have not identified the second suspect but they know and have told us he is a 19-year-old musician who was also in the room with furlong. right now they are held with sexually assaulting furlong's friend. they could be charged in furlong's death as well. tim simon is a defense attorney
who represented amanda knox. the american student accused and then acquitted of murdering her british roommate when they were studying in italy. he is outfront tonight. thanks for coming outfront. let me ask you, japanese police are being very guarded about the suspects. it's unclear what charges may be filed. what do you think is going on? >> i think they are in the beginning of their investigative phase. the way it works in japan, once a person is arrested the police must refer the case to the prosecutor within 48 hours. the prosecutor has 24 hours to take one of a number of actions, either prosecute the case, move for a pre-indictment detention or release the person. they have moved for that pre-indictment detention. the exact charges if any are not really clear but they are certainly investigating for an indecent assault and/or the homicide. >> what is the japanese system like? death penalty? what kind of repercussions are
there if there were to be charges? >> the system is i would say a hybrid system. it is probably more adversarial than inquisitorial. it has many of the same principles we are familiar with. it has the presumption of innocence and burden of proof and right to counsel. probably the most different feature is in really serious cases like murder the jury is a mixed jury. unlike the united states where we have 12 citizens who decide the facts and it has to be a unanimous verdict, over in japan it is a mixed system where you have three professional judges and six lay persons and decide by majority rule so it is different. >> paul was telling me they do have a death penalty there. he was saying there is death by hanging. there is a bit more of a graphic problem than we are used to here. >> yes, they do have the death penalty there and it is enforced through hanging. it is very rarely used.
so whether it will be in this case, of course, we don't want to prejudge this case. very few facts have come out so far. it is hard to say what if anything has really happened here other than we know there's been a tragic loss. >> it is a horrific story. are you surprised that we know so little? people are saying this could be the next amanda knox case. it is difficult to say because no one knows if they will be charged. do you see similarities? there's a picture of you and amanda up on the screen right now. >> i would really not want to prejudge this case or make any comparisons to amanda's case because of you well know, and for so many people know, amanda and her family suffered a monumental miscarriage of justice of unman jable and epic proportions and we can't say what is happening there whether or not the facts justify a prosecution or not.
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we're back with tonight's outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. we begin in italy where at least 16 people are killed when a 5.8 magnitude earthquake struck northern italy today. the earthquake today came nine days after one hit the same region. i asked how the italians are coping. >> reporter: the situation is especially difficult. these people have had nine days of terror. 800 aftershocks since the last earthquake struck on may 20th. the earthquake this morning struck at 9:00 when people were at their places of work getting ready for their day. it was far more deadly than the one last week. seven people lost their lives last week. so far 15 people have been known to have lost their lives. the damage to business was especially hard on this community. this is the industrial heartland
of italy. 30% of the industrial gdp is produced here. there is so much damage and loss of employment to so many people. erin? >> next to moscow where experts are calling a newly discovered computer virus, quote the most sophisticated cyber weapon. the virus has been gathering information from computers in the middle east and a statement on a iranian security website confirmed that iran suffered mass data loss due to the virus. phil black spoke to the russian computer company who discovered the virus. i asked him what they know so far. >> i met one of the experts at kaperski lab. the russian company that discovered this piece of malware that became known as flame. he said it is the most powerful and most sophisticated piece of malware he and his colleagues have ever seen. they say it has targeted at least seven north african and
middle eastern countries. including iran and israel. they say it is a very clever snooping device for intelligence gathering. it can gather up e-mails and passwords, the usual malware stuff, but so much more than that. it can capture images from screens. it can turn on computer microphones to listen in and record conversations. all of this information is sent somewhere to whoever is controlling it. that is the one thing the experts haven't worked out just yet who is behind this but they say all of the evidence points to this being a state run operation. erin? now our fifth story, fighting for the latino vote. this is the key to who wins the white house in november. mitt romney campaigned in colorado and nevada today. both have latino populations of importance. miguel martinez is outfront in colorado where the outcome of the race could come down to the decision of just a few thousand people.
>> reporter: this man runs a bustling grocery store in aurora. this is a family business. this is your wife -- >> and my brother is over there. >> reporter: a u.s. citizen 1999 and a registered republican ever since, this day he doesn't like either candidate. to get your vote, what will one of those candidates have to do? >> um, something about immigration. i have two friends who got deported. if they come out with an immigration law they can help out other people, it will be better for the economy. >> reporter: evangelista is the type of voter both contenders hope to win over with republicans and democrats evenly split here, swing voters will make the difference. and the margin of victory here is expected to be razor thin. more than two million colorado voters are expected at the polls. the presidential race will be decided by a tiny fraction of that. the whole state could be won by as few as 40,000 votes.
this pollster says latino voters are critical, not only are they swing voters but they decide late in the game. 20,000 or 30,000 could make the difference for the entire state? >> it certainly could. and if this is a 2% race here, 40,000 votes, there's half your vote right there. >> reporter: it's easy to see how divided latinos are in just a few minutes at a park here who do you like, obama or romney? >> i like obama. >> reporter: if it was romney or obama? >> romney. >> reporter: she likes romney she said because he has mexican heritage. neither candidate has convinced you yet? >> no, not yet. >> president obama kept his promise -- >> reporter: both campaigns in high gear early. campaign ads so heavy, looks more like fall than early summer. obama hurt by an economy that
isn't rebounding fast enough. romney distrusted among latinos because of his emphasis on deporting the undocumented. he's caught in the middle. his business is doing well, but -- >> i'm not only thinking about me but most of the people are hurt by the economy. but immigration is an issue that concerns me more than the economy. >> reporter: latinos here waiting for answers. ready to deliver colorado and maybe the country to whoever offers the best solution. miguel martinez, cnn, denver. >> talk about a power position. we have ruben navarrette and john avlon. miguel is in colorado, a crucial state. but this group of latinos could decide the whole race. what are the other states where they'll swing at? >> let's take a look. this map shows where the hispanic concentrates throughout the united states. it's the fastest growing minority group. look at three other swing states
that could determine the winner of the election. first nevada where mitt romney is tonight. we have more than a quarter of the population latino. now, barack obama won by three quarters in 2008, but in all the three states they elected a republican governor. brian sandoval in 2010. so it shows just what a swing state this is. and how pivotal it can be. how much up for grabs. let's look at next one. new mexico. one of the big bellwethers. almost 50% latino in this state. >> that's amazing. >> also elected a hispanic republican governor in 2000, suzanna martinez. this shows one of the real states up for grabs. finally probably the big kahuna, florida. florida, florida, florida. the infamous ultimate swing state. 2010, they elected senator marco rubio. the hispanic population, very diverse. mexican american. but this again so key to winning this ultimate swing state. >> ruben, interesting as john points out, they went
overwhelming for barack obama last time, but since then elected lots of republicans in the states is the enthusiasm in the latino population there for president obama this time around? >> no, it is not. there's no question about it. you have a deep ambivalence in the hispanic community. they're not enthusiastic about voting for mitt romney that's a long shot. they don't like romney, but they don't trust or believe in obama. it's not just him breaking the promise to fix the immigration system, but the fact that he deported over 1.2 million people, breaking up hundreds of thousands of families in the process. latinos are very clear on one thing. break whatever promises you want, but don't mess with the family. that's the most important institution. barack obama needs to figure that out and fast. >> we are talking about mitt romney obviously campaigning with donald trump tonight in las vegas. which has a huge latino population. but you're saying latinos don't like the president, but they may really hate mitt romney. how come?
>> well, i think that romney has the same appeal with tea party voters and that's people can't relate to him. he's living a life that's much different than the live most of us live. and he's been extreme in his rhetoric. what's portrayed hispanic immigrants in particular as takers, as people who come here for freebies and benefits. he's never admitted to the fact that we have illegal immigration is because we have so many american employers hiring them. i think they see him as someone who is willing to score points off the population. >> just to add one thing with that. with mitt romney, he did hurt himself with the appeals he mad to the right-wing base, but the number one issue for the latinos is not immigration, but the economy. that's where the romney campaign hopes to make a broad, general election argument. >> i disagree with john here. the number one issue for latinos is respect. neither one of the candidates respects them. that's why they're both having trouble with latino voters. >> on policy issues. >> thanks to both. you heard miguel in the report
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so donald trump and mitt romney aren't the only ones wheeling and dealing in vegas tonight. the world series of poker kicked off yesterday. right now, thousands are playing to win a gold bracelet and more importantly, tons of cash. last year's winner took home about $9 million. this year, $12 million is up for grabs and the brand new million dollar buy-in charity event. that's right. you have to pay a million dollars to play poker. okay. that was the craziest poker tournament i ever heard of until the one i stumbled on this weekend. the british virgin islands hosted the live rick bay poker run. i saw 150 boats and 2,000 boaters arrive with a roar. billed as the most anticipated event with the goal to make the best poker hand possible. as you see, they line up with beers in hand waiting up to an hour to pick up one card at five different islands. it was a lot of boats, it was a lot of beers. and it was a heck of a lot of bikinis.
now, at the time, i thought the only thing that could make this even crazier was if someone like richard branson, the most famous resident, showed up and then he did. boom, i bumped into the dock as he jogged back with his card. see, there he is. he told me he had three boats in what race. that was his boat. when he drew his first card he told me it was of course an ace. but you know what, it didn't matter because he still didn't win. first prize went to joseph smith. a bbi local who took home $7,500. second prize went to predator from miami. predator, i have to show you the predator. it was insane. like literally made out like a caddie complete with fins. you know, a lot of very attractive people, a couple at least sitting on that boat. and then some you have you might say this is ridiculous. this is silly, it's a gas-guzzling horrific thing, but it was a lot of fun to watch. the hometown hero won. i'