tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN May 30, 2012 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
that does it for this edition of "360." thanks for watching. outfront next, how the euro crisis took a bite out of our financial future today. and head of apple says he's going to start building iphones here in the usa. why that doesn't add up. and is a zombie-like attack part of a growing trend in an american city? let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, stocks plunge. thanks, europe. market dropped 160 points today. now, it's down 6% in the month of may. that's the biggest monthly loss in nearly a year.
in case you were thinking that europe's crisis was their problem and your eyes glaze over when you hear about it, this is the wake-up call. america's 401(k)s are losing value thanks to greece and spain. well, because if and when greece drops the euro, it's a little domino with a lot of punch. next comes spain, portugal, ireland, maybe even italy. they could all fail. and that means the breakup of the world's biggest economy and america's biggest trading partner. it means at least tens of thousands of american jobs will be lost. this is the scene in greece now. destitution and riots. suicide has surged. just today a 61-year-old man left a suicide note. his name was alexanderos. he hung himself in a park in suburban athens. he said, quote, greece will be wiped off the map and he hoped his grandchildren wouldn't be born there. the personal toll is tragic and it's a terrible fall for something that was supposed to cure all the continent's ills. the euro was supposed to unite europe after suffering through
two world wars which caused 75 million deaths. that's why its launch was met with massive celebration in 2002 when the first euros arrived in atms. in greece, they rolled out the red carpet to see leaders pull the first euros out. this is literally in greece on that day in january, 2002. people were partying in the streets, they were staying up until the early hours of the morning to try to commemorate the day. >> the euro is the beginning of a stronger european union. we shall be the best in the world. the best in the world. >> it was incredible to imagine that. people out in the streets celebrating a currency. newspapers captured the momentous occasion. here's some of the headlines. euros by the billion. everyone should drink to future success. the euro is our future. the euro is born. europe is embarked in a grand experiment. and hopes running high as europe becomes hard cash. well, now many are just hoping the euro survives including all of us here in the united states.
peter kenny is managing director of knight capital. peter this is sort of the wake-up call. i mean we've known now for a year. the last month the market was this bad was september and that was because of what was going on in europe. but how bad is this going to get? >> it could get a lot worse. the euro today traded at 123, just shy of 124 versus the dollar and that's the lowest it's been. that's a two-year low. the trend is clearly lower. there doesn't seem to be any near-term support for the currency and it is all about the risk off trade. which is why gold caught a bit, the dollar seems to have caught a bit. >> shawn, how much worse could this get? for americans saying this is an awful feeling where you have no control, it could get a lot worse and go on a lot longer and you see your own 401(k) getting decimated. >> that's true. i think there will be a greek
exit from the euro very, very quickly. because of the run on the bank situation. it's going to cause a credit crunch because none of the loans can be rolled over. because deposits are leaving. they're going to switzerland, they're going to england. now, in the case of a default and devaluation if the drachma comes back, money will come back in because everything will be very inexpensive in greece and there will be a much higher growth rate in greece eventually over a six or nine-month period. we'll have a turn-around similar to what we saw in argentina. so going out six or nine months, europe could be growing again technically, or some of the countries that drop out in the early stages because given their labor costs, that they're much too high relative to their overvalued currencies, these countries are rendered completely uncompetitive in the eurozone. >> before the european currency launched, everyone said can we imagine such a thing succeeding. now they're saying it's impossible to imagine breaking up.
it's the biggest in economy in the world. but really is this much ado about nothing. they should just take the band-aid, rip it off your arm. you've got hair on your arm so it hurts but you've got to rip it fast as opposed to what they're doing now, which is ripping every hair. >> there needs to be some dramatic steps taken to correct the structural flaws of the european union. the eurozone. if you look at what iceland did, remember, iceland was the canary in the coal mine. but if you look at iceland's economy now, they took austerity measures and the tough medicine. >> they're fishing again. >> exactly. >> doing what they do and doing it well. >> and much to mr. scully's point, they are actually on the rebound because they took the medicine, took the austerity steps and got their economy in line. >> back to the united states, if it gets really bad in europe and the economy continues to go down, then you see tens of thousands more american jobs lost. that means we could have bank issues here, right? u.s. taxpayers could be on the
line again for this because of europe? >> well, there would be a severe recession because the living standards in greece and spain would drop a lot in the early stages of an exit, because the price of exports would soar. therefore, their living standards would drop before their own industries can ramp up and start producing at lower costs and compete again with what are now no longer cheap imports, right? but that takes a while. so there's going to be this period of complete panic where we're going to have a big drop in european growth and it's going to hit us hard. now, six or nine months or a year out, they're going to be growing again. >> but what do you do during the panic? when the panic happened in this country, i think we all remember, we're talking about the atm image. we were worried that it might not work. that our money wouldn't mean anything. it was a horrific feeling in everybody's stomach. >> at those moments what really drives a theme is what is valuable. which is why you saw the fight to gold.
over the last ten -- >> they go into gold, real estate. >> even the u.s. dollar. they go into real estate, they go into tangibles. you're going to see some of that in the eurozone. you're seeing capital leave greece, capital leave spain. where is it going? it's going to the u.s. dollar, to the u.s. debt markets, it's going to switzerland, it's going to where the risk off trade has a home. >> thanks very much to both of you. it's a frightening moment for everyone. i think as that suicide shows, such a horrible personal story for so many in these countries. it seems like a headline, but people are literally choosing to take their own lives. coming up, president obama has invited mitt romney to debate. let's get real. when we looked at the numbers, it didn't add up. and forget a possible war with iran. some experts say we are already in the middle of a war with iran and we'll explain who's been being killed and where. and a break in the possible murder case of a man who vanished on his honeymoon. police have recovered a video that shows men discussing what happened. while brushing misses germs in 75% of your mouth,
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republican nominee. both sides wished each other well and said they looked forward to a healthy debate. it must have been such an awkward call. hi, it's -- congratulations. thank you very much. i just -- the readout, it's a tone. i wanted to hear it. anyway, we look forward to healthy debate, but let's get real. this is going to be the most expensive election in history. once they got off the phone, they went back to saying, wow, that guy is a jerk. civility in 2012, does it add up? john avlon, reihan salam and jamal simmons are with us now. good to have all of you with us. i'm sure they have pleasant things to say about each other as well. they have got to have respect. but the spending is going to be insane, john avlon. we've seen more than $2 billion, super pac spending. $133 million. it's pretty unbelievable. >> it already is insane. >> how do you get a clean, pleasant election when you've got all this money. and a lot of it kind of the hide behind the fig leaf kind of money. right?
>> re. >> i didn't say something nasty, it was the super pac. >> there's going to be a tsunami of sleaze coming across our air waves for next six or seven months. >> tsunami of sleaze? i love it. >> it's going to be because of super pac money. anybody that thinks it would have been spent on positive ads, get real. this is going to be ugly, it's going to be negative, it's going to be on both sides. already we've seen 70% of the ads this year so far have been negative. only 9% positive. outside money, five times what it was when president bush was running for re-election. we've got a problem, people, and it's going to degrade our civil discourse. it already has. >> will this be something that back fires on one or both of the candidates? it is pretty amazing. 70% of the ads so far negative. back in 2008 only 9% had been negative and at that point we felt it was a really nasty, negative campaign. >> and it's going to get nastier. this is not going to get better. i think today what we saw is sort of like two boxers who have been trash talking each other for the last few months come out.
they bump gloves. everybody wishes each other well. the next time you see me, i'm going to try to knock you into next week. that's what we saw today. that's what's going to go on in this campaign from now till november. >> reihan, we know the super pacs are negative. >> i have a slightly different view. fair enough. >> i know you don't think they're necessarily all bad. by the way, you've got some real convincing arguments on that front. but separate issue. here's the biggest spender so far, restore our future. mitt romney's related super pac, here's what it did before. here you go. >> you know what makes barack obama happy? newt gingrich's baggage. newt has more baggage than the airlines. santorum voted to raise the debt limit five times, increasing spending and debt by $3 trillion. and he even voted to let convicted felons vote. >> that's just a taste of what we saw in the primaries. by the way, they have taken that off their youtube channel. as if they think in this day and age that means it goes away.
>> look, here's -- my own view is that even without the super pacs being present, this would have been a very nasty and contentious campaign for a simple reason. john holliman has a great big article in the "new york" magazine about the obama campaign and its approach to this year. there are quotes from leading officials in the campaign talking about how they're going to drive a wedge between mitt romney and women, between mitt romney and latinos, between mitt romney and young voters. they want to run an aggressive fear-based campaign because it's going to be very effective for them. in a similar vein, george w. bush in 2004 presented himself as a decisive commander in chief during a time of war. that's what incumbent presidents do. when you have a record that is ambiguous, when you have a climate that is tough, you run an incredibly fierce, ferocious, tough campaign. republicans do it and democrats do it. and then the person on the other side is going to have to respond. that's the way it goes. the super pacs definitely contribute to this environment in some sense but even without them, the campaigns themselves are intending to run a tough campaign because the stakes are very high. >> but there's a difference between tough and principled and
sleazy and overwhelmingly negative. the super pacs have super charged this instinct. this goes back a long time. this used to be called positive polarization when nixon ran for president. you could have a republican strategist talking about driving wedges. this is part of the standard operating procedure. now they have a new weapon in their arsenal. it is huge, it is unprecedented and it's going to create its own kind of economy all based upon polarizing the american people. >> jamal -- go ahead. >> what makes super pacs really dangerous is they devolve power from the elected official. you can make a judgment on. you can vote yes or no for obama or romney to the hands of staffers, advisers, independent billionaires who we have no ability to influence what they say or do and we're giving them the power to set the tone for the debate. that's the most dangerous part about super pacs. >> all that may be true. the only thing we'll say if we switch topics, before you had people with huge influence and ambiguously named organizations that were sort of about one cause that gave money and it was a little bit harder to see the money. now it may be vial, but at least you can see who's spending money. so it's very transparent.
but let me play an ad, planned parenthood. this is one of the ads the president is running to push on the women's issue against mitt romney. play this and get your response. >> when mitt romney says -- >> planned parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. >> romney is saying he'll deny women the birth control and cancer screenings they depend on. when romney says -- >> do i believe the supreme court should overturn roe vs. wade? yes. >> that was planned parenthood running that. will that sort of thing stick? the romney campaign is saying we're just against federal funding for planned parenthood. but that's different for saying we're against health care for women. but these sorts of ads are obviously intended to give a different takeaway to the viewer. >> absolutely. and i've been on the receiving end of some of those ads when i've worked on campaigns in the past. and what happens is you spend a lot of time, you spend
paragraphs trying to explain why your position isn't what they said in six words. and i'll tell you, paragraphs don't beat six words. it's a very tough -- it's a very tough environment to be in. and mitt romney has to take it seriously, because if you look at the last couple of elections, the president beat john mccain by about 13 points with women. and in 2004, john kerry only got three points better with women than george bush and george bush won. so losing women by double digits is not the way to get to the white house. >> thanks to all three. appreciate it. ahead, apple's ceo said something that took our breath away. we looked into it. he said he wants to make iphones here in the united states. but does it add up? and a man's horrifying flesh-eating attack could be part of a growing problem. it's truly bizarre what we found in our investigation. we'll be back. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles
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today the dow down 160 points thanks to concerns about europe, part of the reason oil prices fell about $3. we heard what would happen to the u.s. if the situation in europe gets worse. >> there's going to be this period of complete panic where we're going to have a big drop in european growth and it's going to hit us hard. now six or nine months or a year out, they're going to be growing again. scottish police have charged a former "news of the world" editor with perjury. andy colson's arrest relates to evidence he gave in the trial of a politician in december of 2010. the case was related to a story in "news of the world" which is the paper at the center of the phone hacking scandal in britain. cnn's dan rivers says the arrest is significant because of the job he held after he left the paper. he was british prime minister david cameron's media chief. a judge has denied jerry sandusky's request to delay his child rape trial. his attorneys had argued they
needed more time to prepare their case. sandusky has pleaded not guilty to charges that he sexually abused ten boys over a period of 14 years. sandusky's attorney cannot appeal the decision before the trial starts. illinois state legislator mike bost was not happy about having to debate a pension reform proposal just hours after it passed a vote. here's what he did. >> once again, total power in one person's hands. not the american way! these damn bills that come out of here all the damn time, come out here at the last second and i've got to try to figure out how to vote for my people! how ashamed -- you should be ashamed of yourselves! i'm sick of it! >> i think we all know how he feels. i mean, you know, you've got to say. that was pretty -- pretty passionate. all right, well, now illinois has some serious money
problems because its unfunded pension obligations alone are $83 million. its credit rating is the second lowest among the states. representative bost will be our guest tomorrow night. it has been 300 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? obviously the 160-point market drop today didn't help. apple did try to help, the stock was up more than a percent. when i referred to taxes, i want to refer you to the article that discussed apple's tax avoidance. check out "the new york times" how apple side steps billions in taxes. it's a great article. now our third story outfront. the united states proxy war with iran. we're learning some startling details tonight about the flame. now, the flame is a powerful computer supervirus that's been attacking iranian government computers. we've learned a little more about what it can do. it can capture what's on your screen. it records conversations. it can detect what users are
actually on a network and it can collect passwords. but who is behind this crippling cyber attack, which apparently has been in process for a couple of years? experts see the links between this virus and the stuxnet, which you may recall attacked iran's nuclear plants in 2010 and was suspected to be the work of israeli intelligence. iran blames israel and the u.s. for the mysterious deaths of at least four iranian nuclear scientists over the past two years and iran is fighting back. in october of last year, agents disrupted an assassination plot targeting saudi arabia's ambassador to the united states. iran denies that. in february, there were three attacks on israeli diplomats in india, georgia and thailand, all that used similar magnetic bombs. israel has blamed iran. then there's this "washington post" headline with chilling details of iran-linked plots to kill american diplomats and their families in azerbaijan. outfront tonight, the reporter who broke that story, joby warrick and art keller. great to have both of you with us, appreciate you taking the time. let me just start by asking, are
we really, do you think, in a proxy war with iran? is that fair to say that at this point? >> yeah, we call it a shadow war. it's been under way for a long time. both sides are involved in it. i think we've just see the iranians step it up a lot in the last few months. they have been doing things they have been cautious to do before, like attacking diplomats overseas. now we see for the first time really targeting americans too, which is new and pretty chilling. >> it is. and also when you couple that attack with obviously with what the u.s. says was an iranian-sponsored attack that would have killed u.s. civilians in washington, it seems as if it's taken another step forward. art, from your study of stuxnet and the flame, which is the new one, do you think the u.s. or israel is involved? is this the u.s.? >> well, with the stuxnet, i'm pretty confident that was the u.s., simply because of the precision of the virus and the
care which it took to only attack very specific computer controllers that had to be controlling a uranium centrifuge and it was designed to erase itself after the attack. so it made sure it was only hurting very narrow things. flame, i haven't been able to determine yet because i have had -- because i have heard that it does surveillance, but it also has the potential to wipe hard drives. so one is a simple straightforward espionage thing. the other is more a covert action and an attack and a pretty blatant one. so that suggests it might be a little bit more heavy handed and not have fully the precision that stuxnet did. so that muddies the water a little bit. i do believe that the stuxnet probably originated with the u.s., but this one is more heads up in the air. >> hmm, that's pretty interesting. when you talk about your reporting about how it's possible that iranian-linked
people were trying to kill american diplomats and their families in azerbaijan, how closely can they link those plots to the iranian government? that always seems to be the problem, that direct link. >> it's always the m.o. with the iranians. they never do something directly. they usually have a proxy, maybe it's hezbollah or another militant group that it works with. so that way it has plausible deniability. it can take a few steps back. people wonder was it the iranians or was it not. in this case of the azerbaijan attack, once again, they hired some local gangsters that gave them materials and set this thing up with some iranian involvement, but just a few steps back so they don't look directly responsible if something goes wrong. >> and you've reported that since there's been this latest round of talks, which have really been on hold for years between the west, the u.s. and iran on the nuclear program, that the attacks have sort of slowed down. but obviously the talks right
now sort of seem to be going nowhere. so if they end without a solution, are we going to see more of these sorts of attacks? are there more in the works now should we assume? >> that's a good question because part of this -- the action by the iranians is striking back. they had four of their scientists killed in these bombings within their own country. they have been attacked three times with cyber viruses that have gone to the heart of their industry -- to their nuclear power plants, to disrupting their whole society. so they're looking to lash back. i think they called a bit of a truce for several months because these talks were beginning to happen. now that the talks are being derailed, it appears, so maybe it will be back on again. we'll have to wait and see. >> art, cnn has just obtained some pictures i want to show you. we got these right before the show. these are new images of the site. we've talked a lot about this on this show. this is the site where some foreign governments allege the
building at the bottom was used for high explosive testing, nuclear testing. there's been allegations they're trying to clean up this site. the after picture. that before picture was april 9th. this is may 25th. you can see according to the satellite image, they are saying the small buildings have been razed, there's machinery tracks, water coming out of the high explosives chambers indicating they're cleaning it up. how significant are these sorts of pictures, art, in terms of setting back the west's belief that iran is serious. >> well, material swipe sampling which can take very, very minute particles of any enriched material is one of the chief weapons in the arsenal of iaea inspectors. so this further suggests that they have something to hide and it's also a page from their old play book, because there is a facility called the physics research center that the iaea wanted to look at and not only did they clean it up, they bulldozed the whole thing and then bulldozed two feet of top soil and said, yeah, you can come look at it now. so they have done this kind of thing in the past and it really
is kind of audaciously in your face. yeah, we'll let you in to do it after we've removed everything that could possibly get us in trouble. >> art, thank you very much. joby, thank you very much. check out joby's stories about the azerbaijan alleged plot. well, our fourth story outfront, new evidence in the case of a connecticut man who disappeared while on his honeymoon in 2005. you probably remember this story. the evidence now points to foul play. george smith and his wife, jennifer, were on a cruise when they went separate ways after a night of partying. jennifer said she never saw her husband again. his body has never been found, but now a videotape made by a group of men who helped smith to his room the night he vanished is giving the fbi some fresh leads. outfront tonight, george smith's sister, bree smith, and the family's lawyer, mike jones. bree, let me start with you. what do you know or have you heard, seen in this video? what is new? >> well, we haven't actually
seen the video, but from what we have gathered it's a group of the russian men last seen with my brother sitting around a table. apparently during the course of their discussions, one of them makes an incriminating remark. >> about something about your brother? >> yes. >> that maybe he was with him or what happened to him? >> that's right. >> and, mike, you spoke to the men. you did depositions. >> i did their depositions, that's correct. >> does this surprise you that this is happening or that you hadn't seen this before? >> i actually found out about the tape about a year ago and i found out in conjunction with a turnover of evidence by royal caribbean to us in connection with the settlement of a lawsuit against them. i was on a phone conversation with one of their in-house counsel and all of a sudden he mentioned this tape which i hadn't heard about and it hadn't come out in the depositions. there had been talk in one of the depositions about videotaping the things they had done on the ship but more in reference to sightseeing. >> because this was the russians themselves, right? taking a videotape of
themselves? >> yes. apparently they were filming everything that they did, including what turned out to be an alleged sexual assault a couple of nights after george died. so they filmed basically everything they did. >> and what were they like in the deposition? what are these people -- i mean obviously it's horrific what we know on the tape. whether this ends up being something that they did as well. >> i took basically four depositions. one was of josh askin, a young california man hanging out with the so-called russians. in his deposition for 40 minutes he took the fifth amendment, invoked the fifth amendment, so he didn't answer anything. then i took zachary rosenberg's deposition and he alternated between taking the fifth amendment and answering some of the questions. rusty kauffman gave a lot more information but there was a lot of talk about i just don't remember. which is interesting because it was a seminal moment in his life. and greg rosenberg was very chatty. he was in prison for drug trafficking. so he was talking about everything and anything. unfortunately he sort of rambled along and he even got into
discussions about polygraphs and failed polygraphs. >> do you think that they're -- that this could be the answer that you've been looking for? have you come to terms with never knowing or always believe there was something and foul play involved? >> oh, we knew from day one that there was foul play involved, but we always believed that we would have justice. it's just unfortunately taken longer than we expected. but we think that this is perhaps the missing puzzle piece that the authorities have been waiting for and this in conjunction with the evidence that we have amassed through the years, hopefully this will bring arrests. that's what we're hopeful for at this point. >> how do you feel, you've got to be so frustrated that this tape has been there, they had it a year ago and they didn't hear this. >> it's frustrating, but we're also in the process of trying to transfer the case from the district of connecticut to the district of -- southern district of new york and we hope that with new, fresh eyes from the fbi and the u.s. attorney's office looking at the evidence,
they may come to a different conclusion. >> are you frustrated -- i know that george's wife was, for a while, a suspect. i know that was something you never thought was the case. do you think that they lost valuable time and weren't maybe looking other places because of that? >> i'm not sure. i know that she was the suspect in turkey, but from the evidence that royal caribbean provided to us, she was actually not with the royal caribbean cruise employee, lloyd botha, as was first discussed. when we actually got that information from royal caribbean, we transferred our focus from jennifer and the royal caribbean employee to the four men last seen with my brother. >> well, we're hoping this will bring an answer and closure. thanks so much to both of you. >> thanks. and still outfront, a man's frightening and violent zombie-like attack. it could be part of a new trend. it has police in one u.s. city extremely concerned. and the united nations has named the new leader of tourism. he also happens to have the
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tonight we start in syria, where the u.n. has discovered another 13 people shot to death with their hands tied behind their backs. ivan watson is following the story. i asked him who's responsible. >> reporter: erin, united nations observers made a gruesome discovery of at least 13 bodies outside the eastern syrian city. all of them had their hands bound behind their backs. they appeared to have been summarily executed some with gunshots at very close range to the back of their heads. the u.n. observers are not saying who may have carried out these executions. we've talked to syrian activists in that area who came all 13 victims were rebels and their bodies were dumped by syrian security forces out of vehicles. we cannot confirm these claims. turkey and japan have expelled syria's diplomats from their capitals in protest for a massacre last friday, bringing the number of countries that have done this to more than a dozen. the syrian government has responded tit for tat by
expelling the dutch from damascus. erin. >> thanks to ivan. now to canada where police today issued an arrest warrant for a gay porn star. luka rocco magnota in a grisly murder case where a man's torso was found behind an apartment building in montreal, while a hand and foot believed to be from the same body were sent by mail to ottawa. cbc's judy tranis covering the story and i asked what police know about the suspect. >> reporter: erin, police have a suspect. he's a 29-year-old, better known by his porn star alias. police believe he killed his male victim inside this apartment. veteran detectives say they have never seen such a grisly scene. it all began yesterday when a
janitor in montreal discovered a torso stuffed inside a suitcase. that was around the same time in ottawa a blood-smeared package was being delivered to the headquarters of the conservative party of canada. that's the party our prime minister belongs to. a few hours later a second body part was discovered, a left hand. now, dna testing have linked the hand and foot in ottawa to the torso in montreal. even more troubling, cbc news sources tell us that he may have filmed the killing and dismemberment of his victim. erin. now our fifth story outfront. the gruesome face-eating attack in miami could be part of a trend. an example of something larger and much more dangerous. miami police say they have seen similar cases recently of people behaving strangely and showing what appears to be superhuman strength. over the weekend, rudy eugene attacked a 65-year-old homeless man chewing off most of his face. police say he was probably high on a drug known as bath salts. we have to warn you now we have new pictures in tonight. they are disturbing.
police say eugene was naked, that he was growling like an animal. he was shot and killed by police when he refused to stop, but it took multiple shots. that's leading to the descriptions of what seems to be superhuman strength. outfront, armando aguilar, from the fraternal of peace. but first, elizabeth cohen has been looking into the bizarre effects of bath salts. what are they and can they do things like appear to have happened here where the man was growling, acting like a dog? >> right, erin, bath salts have nothing to do with the bath. they have nothing to do with a bath, but it's an amphetamine. these are chemicals that people make in their open hands, homemade kind of recipes and sold in places like gas stations. it used to be legal, because they're the new chemicals. now they are illegal. not everyone who uses bath salts is going to have this effect. you know, that's obvious. but it can have this effect for several reasons. it's a stimulant so it's like
meth, for example. kind of like ecstasy. so several things go on. one, people start to hallucinate and become psychotic. two, sometimes they don't feel pain. so they're not feeling pain even if someone hits them or does -- afflicts anything on them. it's quite scary for something you can buy in a gas station. combative, violent behavior, psychosis. confusion. paranoia. so this man didn't get stronger because of the bath salts, but a he perhaps was paranoid. he became psychotic. he imagined things and didn't feel any pain if indeed he was using bath salts. >> elizabeth, thank you very much. it's -- bath salts themselves are disturbing. there's testing going out right now to see if the man was on bath salts. it's possible it could have been something else or combined with
something else, lsd. armando, you were on the scene of the incident. what was your reaction? what did you see? >> well, i have been a police officer for 30 years now. this was by far the most gruesome scene that i have ever seen in my life. we have had as you said before two other instances in where the persons have disrobed themselves and became very, very violent. they have taken lsd and we believe it's being mixed with some sort of other drugs. in this particular case, we won't know until the final toxicology report comes in. but the cases were so similar in nature that they both -- all three took off their clothes. all three became psychotic. all three had superhuman strength and felt no pain. and it's very concerning to us because it's not just an act of a crazy person. if in fact there's a drug out there that people are taking,
that is making them psychotic like this, we're going to to see more and more of it. and it's very important that we know how to deal with these individuals. >> yeah. >> and be able to contain them and get them medical attention they need right away. in this particular case, obviously, we couldn't because it was so dramatic that they had to use deadly force. >> so i mean, a horrible story. when you talk about seeing incidents like this in the past few months i know you were talking about one guy who would strip down naked, he was attacking multiple people. it took -- what was it, 15 police officers to subdue him? >> yeah. he was running around naked. he was hit by a taxi. he jumped on the taxi. starting beating all the occupants in the taxi. it took at least 15 officers to subdue, tasers had no effect on him whatsoever. he took the baton from one of
the female officers and severely injured her arm with it. it took at least 15 officers to be able to contain him. >> that's just stunning. armando, thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time and sharing some of those stories. this is bizarre that that is happening. well, robert mugave is the world'ses worst dictator and he's the face of something incredible. that's next. [ male announcer ] this is corporate caterers, miami, florida. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers
in the past, the united nations has taken some heat for the people it's chosen to represent it. this time, when it was time to pick someone to aid the u.n.'s world tourism organization and promoting sustainable and university accessible tourism, the u.n. went with a real world leader. who you might ask? robert mugabe. if you never heard of him he's the 88-year-old president of zimbabwe. but perhaps the strangest part of this, the u.n.'s tourism membership includes 155 countries and seven territories. and robert mugabe can't visit a lot of them. maybe because time dubbed him the world's worst dictator. he's under a european travel ban. that's right, they're hoping a