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that's a peacock. >> jungle bird didn't actually know he was doing the mating call of a peacock but he's still proud as one. >> and -- >> jeanne moos, cnn. new york. >> stop deforestation. >> that's it for me. remember, the conversation continues. follow me on twitter @ wolf blitzer. the news continues next on cnn. >> i'm john king. tonight presidents obama and putin talk syria but agree on nothing new to stop the blood shed there. now reportedly russian troops heading to syria. senator john cain says the obama white house is failing a crucial "tom green's house tonight." mitt romney's bus tour across the heartland and the tugging states that now lean the president's way back to the tossup category. and do the greek elections mean
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your 401(k) is going up or down in the latest effort to save the euro zone and how it impacts your bottom line. we begin with what you would have to call tonight's picture of frustration. president obama, vladimir putin looked grim after a two-hour meeting that apparently did nothing to head off an even bigger bloodbath in syria. another 68 people died there today adding to an overall death toll now estimated to be above 13,000. at the same time, a ship thought to be carrying russian attack helicopters now stopped off scotland after earlier being en route to syria. the pentagon also suspects russian troops may be heading to syria aboard other ships. yet after their meeting, the first meeting since president putin returned to the presidency, this is all president obama had to say. >> we agreed that we need to see a cessation of the violence, that a political process has to be created to prevent civil war
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and the kind of horrific deaths that we've seen over the last several weeks, and we pledge to work with other international actors, including the united nations, kofi annan, and all interested parties in trying to find a resolution to this problem. >> heard the president's tone there. well, the president's overseas at a summit, senator john mccain says the very least, usair power should be protecting safe havens for the syrian opposition. senator mclain says the united states is not leading. >> when it comes to the administration's policy toward syria, to say they are leading from behind is too generous. that suggests they are leading. they're just behind. >> cnn white house correspondent dan lothian is with the president at the g-20 summit in mexico. dan, the president said the meeting was cordial. the state department dictionary, cordial, the talks were candid
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and frank. white house officials say don't read too much into the body language. hearing the president's tone, any reason to believe this meeting went anything other than it appeared? >> no, not at all. yes, in fact, you know, white house aides saying it was business like, that it was cordial. they did talk about some of their differences nonetheless and talked about areas where they do have things in common, areas of agreement. but as you pointed out, i mean, the body language tells a lot of the story here. they spent about a third of that meeting talking about syria, and then when they came out to make these brief remarks, there was very little interaction. there was space between them. president obama leaning in. president putin leaning away. at the very end, you saw kind of a half smile on the face of president putin. a quick handshake and then a pat on the shoulder from president obama. as you pointed out though, white house aides sort of trying to move our focus away from the body language saying that this is how putin is, and they're
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giving that yes, in fact, in the past, president obama did enjoy a very good relationship with former president medvedev but that's a different kind of personality and this is a new style we have to get used to. >> it would be easier to move away from the body language and the terse tone of that meeting if we had something concrete to grab. the president said the two agreed that you need a political transition in syria. if the russians don't agree assad needs to step down, what kind of transition are we talking about. >> we asked ta to white house aides. they said they did discuss different strategies to coming to zoom kind of political transition although they never gave us any details. they pointed out while the u.s. is focused on assad having to step aside, the russians are looking at a much broader political process. they're asking questions such as what happens when president assad steps aside. and in fact, according to white house aides they brought up examples like egypt.
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look what happened in egypt. so that is the biggest concern for them, not necessarily one person but what fills that vacuum. >> dan lothian at the g-209 with the president in mexico. thanks. we'll stay on top of the story. as we mentioned the united states now believes russian troops may be heading towards syria. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is with us. slight hitch to this russian mission though, right? >> in detente, a russian cargo ship believed to be carrying some of those attack helicopters that we have seen be the center of much of the controversy right now, that ship has been stopped off the coast of scotland. the london insurer canceled the maritime insurance for that ship. there's a european union embargo. you can't carry weapons to syria and be insured by a european country. the maritime insurance has been canceled. the ship now will likely return to its home port in russia because it can't really dock anywhere all the way to syria. that's where they believed it was headed.
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key but small victory. it keeps at least three m ty-25 russian helicopters from going to syria. helicopters that are very much used in some of these attack operations from the air, john. >> and barbara, one who doesn't follow sort of the geopolitical importance of syria to the russians might hear russian troops heading to syria and think they're going on a combat mission. explain if they go what it would be about. >> at this point, i don't think anyone in the administration believes the russian troops are headed for a combat mission. a small number of troops likely to go, likely to at best reinforce or defend the russian military presence at a key syrian port called tartus on the mediterranean. this is the real strategic importance to russia. they want access to this port on the mediterranean to remain in their hands. they don't want it to be interrupted. this gives the russians the strategic and political advantage of having a port in the mediterranean and that is a
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gateway to the entire middle east for them. john? >> barbara starr on the strategic importance tracking developments at the pentagon. all of this begs the question, whether the u.s./russian relationship and president obama and putin can reach an agreement here. david gergen, i just want to start of with the pictures. you've advised four u.s. presidents and you know, the white house always says when the meeting doesn't go well, don't pay attention to the body language. look at these pictures. putin is leaning away with the stone face. i remember it well from covering him back in the jrnlg w bush administration. he had a much more friendly relationship with george w. bush. you can see it in the president's face. you could hear it in the tone of his words. this is not a working relationship at the moment, is it. >> it is not a working relationship. and it's been an enormous source of frustration for the administration. as you know, the obama is team came in promising to hit the reset button with russia. in the beginning it seemed to be
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working. obama had a an excellent relationship with medvedev. the two saw themselves as risings members of a young generation that was going to transform the world. and they made some progress on some issues. but now with putin in, we have this authoritarian that many in washington regard as a real thug. obama clearly doesn't like him. putin has no real love for obama. more importantly, it's not just the body language. it's not just the personal animosity. it is the fact that the russians are blocking any real effort or net success in getting assad out of office. this is a -- syria is a foot hold for the russians on diplomacy in the middle east as you know. as long as they continue to reinforce assad, it makes it very difficult. we want assad out of there in part because it would be a real blow to iran. this is starting to flare up in american politics. that speech by mccain today was important. >> he says the president's not
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leading at all, not leading from behind. that was a reference to what many people said from the libyan conflict. he said he's just behind. senator mccain made a pointed reference to the role of the russians here. let's listen. >> they are doing enormous damage to their image in the arab world harming themselves dramatically. we're going to have to take a much more realistic view of our relationship with russia and our ability to do business with them. >> define what a more realistic view of our relationship with russia would be, david. you hear mitt romney saying this from time to time on the campaign trail, as well. they have a vote toe on the security council, critical when it comes to the north korea question. sometimes they are critical critical when it comes to the iran question. now had he are front and center on the syria question. how do you redefine the relationship? >> it's going to be very tricky. we do have other things that we do with the russians for example with our difficult getting into afghanistan now from pakistan through the roads there. we've been able to work with the
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russians to have more access from the north. that's been helpful to us. but in syrian issue i think is -- has a real chance to become a conflagration point in the american political election because mitt romney all along has taken a very hard line toward russia. he has said it's the greatest security threat to the united states. many experts have scoffed at that notion. they just don't agree with it, but now that the russians so clearly are blocking us and nato in syria, you know, this -- there's going to be more conversation. i think the mccain statement today is the beginning, not the end, of what could be a very controversial point. there are a lot of people who are in the human rights movement after all who would like to see the u.s. take more of a lead as we have. they ask, how can you defend what we did in libya, which was the right thing to do with what's going on in our inaction in syria where far more people are getting killed and a far greater strategic interest to
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the united states. and you know, american officials have to answer except to say it's very hard. >> no answer except to say we're going to continue to try a diplomatic process na so far has failed miserably. appreciate your insights always, david. keep looking for the answer. i'm not sure it's out there. the greek elections seems to have regulators breathing a sigh of relief. what it could mean for your 401(k). and later, better than 700% increase in what some people consider the online censership. stay in the moment sanya
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word markets ended on a flat note despite the news a pro bailout party in greece emerged the victor in the elections this weekend. that is a must to secure the euro. in the united states stocks opened on a high note but closed in red for the day. asian markets up a bit. as the world economy waits for long-term signs of stability, president obama saw the election as a sign of hope. >> i think the election in greece yesterday indicates a positive prospect for not only them forming a government but working constructively with their international parents in order that they can continue on the path of reform, and do so in a way that also offers the prospects for the greek people
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to succeed and to prosper. >> richard quest, the anchor of cnn international's quest means business is right there on the ground if athens and joins us now. you look at all the headlines after the elections. they say this bodes well for saving the euro zone but it guarantees nothing, does it? >> you're absolutely right. guarantees nothing at all because what has to happen in greece is a coles has to be formed and i'm hearing tonight that the parties are quite close to actually putting that together. and on tuesday, probably will announce some form of coalition. but then they have to go to brussels and ask for some relief, if you like breathing space from the austerity, the crushing austerity that the country's been under. and then they have to actually implement many of the reforms. >> and so let me play selfish american here. as an american investor watches this play out, the markets pretty flat today. they started up and seemed to say let's watch this for i an couple days.
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when? is there a date on the calendar whether we should know at least with greece you're getting stens in the right direction or do we not know? >> there are, i would hesitate to say, i could tell you the 27th, 2th of june when there's a european summit. i could tell you the middle of august when greek bonds are due to be rolled over and paid off. i could tell you dates ad nauseum up towards christmas, but the truth is, it is a question of confidence. and it is only when the markets believe that this weird combination of country, commission, ecb, are all have built a fire wall and have got -- i mean, to put it crudely, john, in the way in the states that the u.s. did with t.a.r.p. and the stimulus package and yes, there were some problems, but they got their hands round the throat and neck
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of the problem. that has not yet happened in europe. and that is what until we see that, that is what is lacking. >> and so, there's a child's game here in the states called whack a mole. one comes up, you hit it, another one comes up when you think you've solved that. if greece goes forward in a big way, what is the next big question? is it spain, somewhere else? >> whack-a-mole is a very good analogy. one sometimes does wonder. i'll give you an example. it is monday night in greece. so bang. we've just managed to knock down the greece question of a coalition. but over there, suddenly spain's interest rates are up by 7% or up up 7% and italy's are up, as well. behind us we've got questions of whether spain, portugal and ireland would want to renegotiate. and we have terrible industrial production numbers elsewhere in the eurozone. and we have the euro under
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pressure. and we have -- and you get the idea. so whack-a-mole is a great analogy albeit crude and some might say insensitive, but that's exactly what they're engaged with at the moment literally seeing if they can manage to get the next one before it comes up above the par pa parat. >>. >> richard quest, thank you. see egypt's presidential election, why the eventual winner may not have much power at all. plus, what's behind the big increase in what some critics see as censorship by google. hello bobby. do you know you could save hundreds on car insurance over the phone, online or at your local geico office? tell us bobby, what would you do with all those savings? hire a better ventriloquist. your lips are moving. geico®.
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welcome back. here's kate bolduan with the latest news right now. >> hi there john. good evening, everyone. other headlines to catch you up on. theis islamist candidate of the muslim declared victory today. he may not have much power. egypt's extreme council of the armed forces issued a decree keeping most of the power to themselves even though they promised the new president will not be a puppet, a pro democracy
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activist we spoke with today fears the worst. >> they made the same promise several times before. the next president is going to be a puppet president. >> reporter: the administration's nominee to be u.s. ambassador to iraq has withdrawn from consideration after revelations of questionable conduct. e-mails that were written. 2008 recently came to light reveal agfair between brett mcguirk and a former "wall street journal" reporter. the two the have since married. an administration official says he regrews with the draw but adds he hopes mcguirk will be asked to serve his country again in the future. only half of the colorado wildfire that has consumed almost 60,000 acres of land and nearly 200 homes is contained. the hyde park blaze has been raging for more than a week fueled by low humidity and gusty winds. other western states have also fallen victim to critical fire conditions including california where a fire broke out in san diego just this morning. crews hope to contain that fire by tonight. that continues to happen.
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>> and more than 6,000 requests in six months to sento censor g. they're reporting an uptick in requests to remove specific content. u.s. agencies increased their appeals by 718%. google says it only complied with about half of those requests. it's very interesting to see kind of that trend, if you will. >> trained in our business to oppose censor ship, some of what they're taking down are terror videos or encouraging terrorism. >> there's always that debate though. censorship, where is it good, where is it bad, where is it limiting free speech. >> as technology changes, this conversation will be with us for some time. next, mitt romney trying to pull tats that went for obama in 2008 back into the tossup column. plus, today's big change at the sex abuse trial of the former penn state coach jerry sandusky. if your car is totaled,
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in this half hour of john king usa, mitt romney's for ray into what's been considered obama territory. we'll look at which states he's
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trying to triback into the tossup column. the truths about his cautious answers to questions about illegal immigration. plus roger clemens walks. his perjury trial ends in verdicts of not guilty all counts. romney's campaign bus rolled through parts of wisconsin and iowa today. it's the next to last day of his five-day tour of six states that all of them went for senator obama back in 2008. but as governor romney told the wisconsin crowd this morning, this time he hopes 80s different. >> i think president obama had just put this in his column. you just assumed from the very beginning wisconsin was going to be his. but you know what? we're going to win wisconsin and we're going to get the white house. >> so let's look at the map. this is the 2008 map. you see all this blue. he started in new hampshire, blue last time. he went to pennsylvania, blue last time. ohio blue last time. michigan blue last time. wisconsin blue last time. iowa tonight blue last time.
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all, all obama states last time. most of them have been democratic states for some time in many presidential politics. look at this year's map. we have it 247 leaning or strong for the president, 206 votes for governor romney. he was just in wisconsin. what if he could make that a tossup, see how it changes the math. he was in michigan, a tougher one for romney. the auto bailout quite popular there. recent polling showing romney in play. what if michigan becomes a tossup. much george bush tried so hard in pennsylvania. but can romney get it this time. maybe not win them in the end in november but if he puts them back in the tasup category it puts governor romney ahead and it means president obama has to come into all of these states and spend more money, more time on the ground more ads and the like and it increases the opportunities then, gives governor romney a clearer path to the white house. they think they will win florida and ohio. look it something like that
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happened, it's advantage romney in the end even if the president keeps some of these as you go. let's bring our chief political analyst gloria borger in into the consideratioversation. these states have been democratic 0 for so long, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. but if you could put one or two or three back into play, how much does it change the whole strategy of the election? >> i think it changes it tremendously. what their goal is in the romney campaign is to win back some of the states that were traditionally republican that barack obama won in 2008. take a look. how about the state of virginia, for example, john. going to be a key state. indiana, key state. north carolina, those are three that they think they have to win and they call them sort of historically republican. >> t you go --f theywin ohio and orida, p in ohiod rida, ad that, and then they've got a bunch of
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wildcard states, some of the ones you were talking about that they think they can win. maybe michigan as you were talking about. it seems to be pretty much a tie there. what about the state of new hampshire? >> in this map, if you took these away from president obama and then you gave florida and ohio to governor romney and virginia to romney, that's a hypothetical thetical, the obama supporters are saying wait a minute. if this happens governor romney only has to win one of the rest of these states. right now it's the other way around. he has to win most of the tossups and president obama has the easier path. taking one or two out of the blue changes the map. they do this, most of the bus tour was through rural areas. the president did struggle in some of the blue collar working class rural america. so you're trying to boost your margin there to put those states back in play. >> right, and they believe they have a real advantage in the exurbs in rural america so you're going to see a lot of mitt romney on buses probably
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going to those parts of states where he believes he can get out those voters and that's a big if, if he can mobilize them, get them enthusiastic, get them to vote, that that could make a big difference in a farm state such as like the state of wisconsin which they believe is in play. democrats say not so much. but you're going to see a lot of mitt romney trying to get wisconsin. >> and even if they can't win those states, it's the old argument and we've given up on this argument, they say try to get the democrats to play for california because it's so expensive. they haven't had to do that in recent history. if you make them play michigan, wisconsin, it's money and resources. >> you're going to make them spend a lot of money. the difference this year from 2008 is that the republicans are going to be at parity if not have more money particularly super pacs than democrats. and so if mitt romney forces president obama to defend territory that he should already have, it's going to cost the
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obama campaign money and manpower and presidential travel and don't forget, it's very important when you have a presidential candidate come to your state and spend time there. it's only a certain number of days and a certain amount of resources. >> 141 from today. >> about you you're counting. >> the electoral college chess in this race is fascinating. >> i know. and changes every day actually. >> we'll count them as we go. thanks so much. turning to the important trial we've been tracking from the beg beginning, the prosecution rested in the sex abuse trial offairery sandusky. his defense attorneys began presenting their case, which may be done by mid-week. cmn contributor sarah gan nom is covering the trial. what was the most significant shift in the tenor? >> there were two headlines. one was in the morning when a mother took the tand and bolstered the testimony of her son who testified on thursday.
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she said she noticed her son would be missing. underwear that it wouldn't be in the laundry and feels guilty for pushing him to keep going back to jerry sandusky's house. in the afternoon, the big headline was these twos former penn state assistant football coaches who worked alongside jerry secretary who caandusky w shower with boys at the ynca, have sometimes done it on campus in this penn state locker room where so much of this abuse is alleged to have taken place. there was one huge distinction though that was really a key element today. they say they've showered with boys. they've seen jerry sandusky shower with boys but never have seen or participated in any contact. and almost all of these allegations surround of contact, either a bear hug, lifting a boy up and putting them underneath a shower head. those kinds of allegations are
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very different from what they testified to that they believe is okay. that's something that people really, i mean the courtroom as it exited for a recess was just abuzz withers whether or not this is considered still to be acceptable conduct or if it's something that has to do with a cultural sports culture or generational idea. it's really an interesting day in court today, john. >> hopefully if it is still considered acceptable, that moves on. what is the biggest outstanding question in terms of defense strategy? is it whether sandusky will testify, is it something else? >> i think that everyone is wondering if jerry sandusky is going to testify. the judge told the jury today that he expects the defense case to wrap up by midday wednesday. so threw is really only about three hours of testimony today. not a whole lot happened here. they started a little bit late after some motions for dismissal, which were all denied.
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and then ended early because of technical difficulties that weren't explained. so they actually have, you know, what i would expect a full day tomorrow. they have a lot to present tomorrow and wednesday morning. >> sara ganim at the trial in pennsylvania. thanks so much. why the republican presidential candidate is earning the label risk averse romney. ♪usic plays] there's another way to help erase litter box odor.
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mitt romney is a study in caution and it often serves him well. but at times, it can leave you scratching your head and wondering why a man who wants to be president can't tell us a little bit more about what he would actually do. like over the weekend when the issue was president obama's decision not to deport younger illegal immigrants and not only that, to make them eligible for work permits. >> there needs to be a long-term solution so they know what their status is. >> five times, five times bob schieffer of cbs tried for a direct answer. >> would you leave this in place while you worked out a long-term solution or would you just repeal it. >> we'll look at that setting as we reach that, but my anticipation is i'd come into office and say we need to get this done on a long-term basis.
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>> that's not exactly a direct answer and it's not the first time. in an abc interview he employed the same tactic when he was asked by diane sawyer if he would have signed the lilly leadbetter law. quote it's certainly a piece of legislation i have no intention of changing. i wasn't there three years ago. not exactly be bold leadership. i could give you a few more similar examples. risk averse romney is the label awarded the candidate. and it fits and truth is while people in my business prefer more direct answers and it might help you make your mind, caution is in his dna. so don't expect a big strange. here tonight, cmn political contributor done nan brazil and alice stewart. he's running for president, alice. so the president does this executive action that says we're no longer going to deport anyone under 30 years old, as long as they don't have any criminal history. they can come and get a work
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permit. it's temporary but it's renewable. why can't the governor say if i came into office, i would stop the policy while pursuing a long-term policy or say i would leave it in place while pursuing a long-term solution. >> he's answering the question. some people don't like the way he's answered he said we need to look at a longer erm solution. >> he didn't say if it he would leave it in place in the interim. you know we don't assume congress is going to change in any great way. >> he said the important thing is to look at a long-term solution. >> it doesn't answer the question of what happens in the meantime. >> what he's going to do is look at the big picture and address the issue. the most important way. immigration is a big picture issue. first and foremost, he's going to do what he can to secure the border and work on employment verification. >> donna, he didn't tell us what what would happen. am i wrong? >> no o. >> on jan 21st, 22nd, 23rd he
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doesn't like what the president did, he thinks you should pass legislation, have the congress do this. but that will take weeks if he can get it done quickly, it will take months if it takes awhile and it may not happen. welcome to the last five years of immigration debates. he didn't answer the question would he leave it in place in the meantime, did he? >> no, he did not. i think he likes to avoid tough questions. he doesn't want to give us a plan how he will cut the deficit, how he would create jobs, how he will deal with iran, how he will deal with europe. this is part of a long pats tern. >> and more specific on some of those things. it's when he gets asked specific policy questions. >> unless he can criticize his opponent and be negative, there's really not a lot of there there. i watch him. i watch him all the time to see if he's saying anything new or he's outlining a vision for the future and you're not going to get it from mitt romney. as long as he can stay close in the race, without laying out his
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plans and the media is not demanding that he lays out these plans, he's going to continue to vacillate and not tell us what he will do. >> when you're the challenger and think things are going your way, you tend to be more cautious. the lilly leadbetter, that's a role of government. some conservatives don't want the government saying women should get equal pay. they wouldn't want the government saying men should get equal pay. they don't think the government should be doing that. immigration, anything he does to reach out to the latin note community could hurt him with the base. is it those kinds of questions where he tends to be more cautious. >> while the president may have signed the piece of legislation with the lilly leadbetter, 403,000 women have lost their jobs as a result of obama's he leader had ip. more than 90%. >> that's not the question as to whether or not he would sign the bill. that's a separate issue. >> that's not accurate, as well. that's not accurate. what's not accurate is that because of the recession, the fact that construction workers
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and many other sectors started losing jobs early on when we started losing 750,000 jobs, women in more of the service industry started losing jobs as a result of the recession much later. >> here's an example of when he did answer one of the questions. during the debates he did answer, this is to me why he's cautious on other points. here's the d.r.e.a.m. act. >> i've indicated i would veto the d.r.e.a.m. act if provisions included in na act say that people who are here illegally, if they go to school here long enough, get a degree here, they could become permanent residents, i think that's a mistake. >> is that a reason not to answer those questions because he's on the record there saying i would veto it and now trying to get to a place where i don't like the democratic version but i do want those young people to get status, not citizenship. when you answer it and then you've got to wiggle out of it -- >> he has laid out the case that you're certainly -- your heart goes out to the children here by no fault of their own. there are circumstances that need to be addressed. but this is not a
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one-size-fits-all problem. a stop gab measure to win obama some favor with that community through the election is not the way to go about it. we need to look at a long-term solution. marco rubio has a great plan on the table that's got to be discussed. >> he has a great idea on the table. we haven't seen the paper. >> he has an idea. >> i still think the guy who wants to be the next president has to answer at least some of the questions what he would keep or get rid of from the last president. maybe i'm naive at this. >> look, john, as long as he's able to do well in the polls simply by avoiding all of these tough questions, then mitt romney is going to continue to attack and not offer any plans. >> you've both done a lot of debate prep in your careers. john kerry, the presidential nominee for the democrats against george w. bush, massachusetts senator, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he's mitt romney. he's the debate. he's going to -- help president obama prepare for the debates by playing the role of mitt romney. you went through this with al gore.
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paul begala played george w. bush. john kerry, what do you think? >> i think he will do a great job. i think he understands the way his mannerism. he understands his policy which is pretty much nothing. and i think john kerry will be able to do a fantastic job being a stand-in for mitt romney. >> i understand george clooney was busy getting ready for his next obama fund-raiser and wasn't able to help out in the debate prep. >> ouch. >> the point is, it's just about going through the motions regardless of who it is. i think the true "tom green's house tonight" will be. >> did you go through this with given huckabee in the last cycle, or congresswoman bachmann? is it generally staff? >> we had generally staffers come in and do that. you go through the motions and sometimes you try not to laugh because you know the person very well but you're trying to be serious about serious issues. it's a way to you know really put the candidates' feet to the fire because certainly when they're in the lights facing you, it's tough. >> she said george clooney.
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i say clint eastwood. 50i78 more of a clint eastwood woman. >> is that generational, political. >> don't go there. >> thanks. if you're feeling more stressed than you used to, stay tuned. new scientific evidence could prove you're right. and tonight's moments
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roger clemens walked today. a jury here in washington, d.c. found clemens not guilty on all counts of lying to congress. that was during an investigation of steroid use in major league baseball. clemens was emotional as he faced reporters a short time ago. >> i put a lot of hard work into that career. and so, again, i appreciate my teammates that came in and all the e-mails and phone calls. >> let's check in with joe johns. joe, as we saw there, a very emotional roger clemens following the jury's verdict. you were there. tell us what else happened. >> reporter: that was probably the key thing, the emotion of the moment. a lot of hugging in the courtroom. and you saw what happened outside. it's been a long road for this guy. he's actually had to prepare for two trials. the first one ended in a
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mistrial. then you get the second one. it's interesting, the second one sort of went according to the script, if you will. a lot of people expected him, i think, to get off. on the other hand, it only took like nine weeks for the whole trial to go on. and then nine hours of deliberations, a little bit more than nine hours, very quick, the jury coming back with that decision. >> so clemens wins, if you will, on this ruling here. this is the second high-profile failure for u.s. prosecutors in days really. >> reporter: yeah, talking about the john edwards trial down in greensboro, north carolina. and then this one, too. so the thing you have to say. and i think it's important to say is that the justice department really didn't pick these cases, as it were, at least this justice department. down in north carolina, that case with john edwards, it was brought by a republican prosecutor. the democratic department of justice under president obama
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and eric holder had to bring that one. this other case, the case today with roger clemens, that was a case that was referred to the justice department by the house of representatives. and the justice department, actually the d.c. united states district attorney put out a statement pointing that out at the very end, thanking everybody involved and even those attorneys who worked on the case talking about their professionalism after the referral from congress. so they want to point out this wasn't something they brought. 12k3w >> didn't start here. fascinating case to watch. we'll see if the rocket makes the hall of fame after this verdict. >> reporter: you bet. >> joe, thanks so much. kate bolduan has the latest news you need to know. >> newly released taped jailhouse phone calls show george zimmerman and his wife struggling to come up with cash for his bond. zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder in last february's shooting of unarmed
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florida teenager trayvon martin. zimmerman and his wife also are accused of covering up $135,000 raised by their online defense fund. listen here. >> i thought you said it was like $300 total? >> huh-uh, no, kevin inflated it. >> okay, so total, everything, how much are we looking at? >> like $155. >> attorney general eric holder today offered to meet with house oversight committee chairman darrell issa and other leaders. the meeting is likely to be tomorrow. issa is threatening to hold holder in contempt of congress for not turning over information about fast and the furious. and congress has taken another step in its space exploration plan.
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this feat makes china the third country to complete a manned space docking after the u.s. and russia. this launch also included china's first female astronaut. the crew will stay in the lab to conduct different types of experiments. always an amazing sight to see one of those take off. and do you feel more stressed out than you used to? now there's scientific evidence to prove it. stress increased 18% for women and 24% for men between 1983 and 2009, this according to researchers at carnegie melon university. some good news here, the study says stress decreases with age. what does that mean? >> i'm zen. >> you're zen? >> totally zen. >> i dispute that, everyone. >> what? >> i dispute that. >> this is your stress, it's just distorting your opinion. >> i'm going to take that one home and think about that.
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thank you, john king. >> stay right here. kate is going to stay right here. tonight's moments you may have missed. an epic tennis temper tantrum. david nalbandian wasn't pleased with his performance and he snapped. kicked an ad board which hit a line judge in the shin. the bloody judge got an apology but babhe's paying the price. and webb simpson takes the title at the u.s. open but a bold fan tries to take his glory. >> i got off to a slow start but i knew that -- >> always something to spice matters up. >> yeah, enjoy the jail cell, pal.


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