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several stories caught ourt attention today and also some photos. take a look at the elementary students in the philippines wearing protective head gear made from rugs in a nationwide earthquake drill. earthquakes are common in the pacific region. almost 3,000 miles away, these students in sri lanka look at mosquito larvae and learning how to protect themselves from the dengue virus transmitted through mosquito bites. almost 3,000 sri lankans have been infected this year. and these are pilots in the fifth day of the hunger strike. they want air india to rehire pilots let go in a merger with
indian airlines. air india was bailed out by the air india was bailed out by the government last month. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "cnn newsroom," i'm suzanne malveaux. today we are live from aspen, colorado, and beautiful setting talking about the world's most pressing problems. this is the eighth annual aspen ideas festival and leaders and thinking from the united states and the world meet to discuss ideas from policy, politics, science, art, values, culture, and everything. they have a chance to listen, learn and debate. first at the start of the hour, a huge stock market rally. a deal to help struggling banks in europe was welcomed on wall street. european countries agreed to aid the banks without adding to the country's debt. and the nasdaq is higher and the
dow up more than 200 points. deadly shooting during a safety briefing in fort bragg in north carolina. one soldier killed and one of the soldiers shot another and then turned a gun on himself. they are part of the 25th battlefield brigade. police say the man is in custody, and we will have a live report from the pentagon. right now president obama is on the way to disaster zone, colorado springs, colorado. the city has been ravaged by the most destructive wildfire in the state's history. raging waldo canyon fire has burned down 346 homes. there are 20,000 that are more under the threat, and at least one person has now died, and another is missing. president obama signed a di s disaster declaration for the state today freeing up federal funds for the recovery. now this afternoon, he is going to tour the scorched neighborhoods along with meeting the firefighters and we have the fbi and the atf helping the
local police investigate report s that an arsonist might have started the fire. a group of bicyclist have captured some key clues when they snapped photos early on. our affiliate has the story. >> reporter: this photo is the earliest proof that 7 news has seen of the start of the waldo canyon fire saturday afternoon. >> it is unreal. >> reporter: images taken by jane rhinebrant who was training two cyclists west of the garden of the gods. >> we were there at 11:00 and blue skies and nothing suspicious. >> reporter: but less than two hours later, she would capture the start of what would grow to destroy 346 homes. >> the fire was spreading pretty quick. there was a point where we watched it roll over the ridge. we were driving down the road and the helicopter flew overhead with one of the water drops, and at that point, kind of realized how serious it was. >> reporter: just taas our
interview with jane ended, a investigator stopped by to look at the video. we asked how the video could pinpoint who or what was responsible. >> when the event unfolded quickly and a lot of smoke is not extremely valuable, but the single line of smoke is. >> we will give the videos and all of the photos that we have to to a authorities a and that i can go through wit a fine tooth comb and see if they have anything. >> rob marciano is live in colorado springs. rob, give us a sense of the progress being made so far and what they are dealing with on the ground. >> well, suzanne, regardless of how this fire started, one thing is for sure the last day and a half, they have made some progress, and yesterday was cooler. and they got 15% containment which does not sound like a lot, but relative to what it was like three days ago, it is. firefighting efforts have ramped up. today is sunny and warm, but the winds won't be as erratic. we are on the air force academy airfield and they are yuzusing s
as an area to launch the helicopters who are fighting the battle and you can see them lifting off where they are picking up retardant and off on the front range there, you will see the small spot fires and smoke coming out. those have ramped up a little bit but not nearly what they were yesterday. and below the spot fires, that is a subdivision that they have been desperately trying to protect, and so far have had some success, but i can't say that for other subdivisions in northwestern colorado springs, within the city limits and as you mentioned 346 homes destroyed. those victims are spread throughout the city in hotels or friends and family or some shelters and very frustrated. suzanne, last night some of them got news as to whether or not their homes were spared. many of them still won't get back to their homes for several days, because the fire is still too close. >> and rob, tell us a little bit why is it that colorado is burning more than other states in the area? >> well, you know, i bet you that the local skiers in aspen
have told you this, it is not a good snow year at all. on may 1st, we were 80% below average on the snow pack and may into june, it has been unbelievably hot, and the second warmest spring for parts of colorado on record. so you had a barely snow pack and early hot spring and then last weekend the temperatures well up and over 100 degrees and that record-breaking coast is over to the east coast and folks east of the mississippi are enduring that, but that combination is what when this firer sparked let it spread so quickly. this is not the only one, because there are several large ones spreading throughout the state. suzanne. >> all right. rob, thank you so much. the weather of course might help the firefighters contain the flames. i want to go in to bring in chad meyers to the cnn weather center to talk about it. chad, are we seeing any hopeful signs for these guys? >> well, it is good news and bad news and a chance of rain. that sounds like a fantastic thing, and for the old high park fire up near fort collins, it
was a fantastic thing, and in fact, wednesday, there was a flash flood warning over the fire area and right now the high park fire is 85% contained, and that is the huge one, and that was 100,000 acres and 140 or so square miles and now it is 85% under control, and fantastic. but the same day, there was some rain that was in jen nesscessj n county, and that rain caused an outflow of the boundary and then all of the houses were engulfed in flames. so you want the rain, but right on top of the fire and not five miles or ten miles away, but right on top of the fire and then you have a chance of putting some containment with the natural causes here, and the chance of rain is 20% today and all of the way through the weekend. the temperatures are not over 100 like they were for a lot of the firefight. as rob mentioned the heat has moved over to the east and it is 8 87 in new york city.
that is one of the cool spots, because philadelphia, you are already up to 90. you get down into charlotte, and temperatures are 100 degrees already, and raleigh 100 and richmond, virginia, 100. and it will be hotter than that, suzanne. it is going to be 107 degrees in nashville today. >> chad, talk about that. because why extreme heat across the country and more than 100 million folks, one in every third person is going to be impacted by this? >> well shgs, i understand it i fourth of july and people are saying, come on, it is um mer and it happens, yes, i understand it does happen, but many times we say it is not the heat, but the humidity, but this time it is the heat. the humidity is not so bad, but 107 is hot no matter what. and people say, when you move to phoenix, it is a dry heat and no big deal. this is not exactly a dry heat. and it is not muggy and just oppressive, but it is not perfect. so you can cool off with water and make sure there is water on the body and maybe a big wet towel around the neck, but temperatures here from memphis, 103 degrees tonight and you need to get the house cooled down at
night, too. there is nashville, 107 for the high temp and it is hot everywhere. columbia, atlanta, and 102-106 and ridiculous temperatures. i joked with people who say, what is it like to live in hotlanta, and i say it is not hot in hotlanta, and it gets to 90 and rains and it is great. that is not happening. no rain in the forecast. there are no clouds in the forecast, and that is how it is getting so hot. >> i'm really glad i'm in colorado right now, chad. how long is this heat wave going to last do you think? >> at least five days. no end in sight. good news tomorrow and sunday, people are off on the weekend and maybe the power usage won't be bad, but by monday and tuesday, everybody is back to work and we could see brown outs and blackouts and the local authorities giving you a warning and turn it up to 85 or 90 degrees whatever it is in your house, and then turn it back down when you come home. this is what you want to be doing. i don't understand what the kids know how to do the best. there you goment i remember
running through a sprinkle back in buffalo, and that is the best way to stay cool. get wet and stay wet. find yourself a local lake and if not, $1 movie theater. they still exist, right? >> a neighbor's swimming pool or something. okay. thank you, chad. this is what we are working on for the next hour. what does the future of health care look like now that the affordable health care act has cleared the supreme court, and we are live in the pentagon and the investigation into the deadly shooting into fort bragg. and michelle kwan is one of the most famous figure skaters in history and now she is using that fame to help secretary clinton spread diplomacy, and we will talk to her about it.
reform shifts back over to the legal arena and now back over to the political arena hnow that te supre supreme court has upheld the law. and now mitt romney says that they will take the case to the voters. here in aspen, we listened to a panel that has had a lot of interesting things to say about the supreme court decision and the road ahead. very provocative conversation. let's listen in. >> i was very pleased that romney care was sustained today. i have been in favor of this plan since it came out of the heritage foundation in the late 1980s. i favored it in 1983 and 1984 and much to the first lady's dismay and when mitt romney wanted to do it, i raced up to massachusetts the do it and check it out and he was doing it for all of the right reasons and not for the things he is saying now. >> i think that the democrats and the republicans agree we want a high value and high p performance health care marketplace and better quality
and lower cost, but they differ on what the role of government should be. that debate will continue regardless. >> the popularity of the bill is in the future and it always will be. the american people do not trust government. 19% of americans trust government to do the right thing most of the time, and this bill centralizes power in government. they are just not going to like it. >> we now know that this is not a mandate, but a tax increase. and i think that president obama promised not to impose a tax increase, and we will see if the republicans can figure out how to argue against the tax increase for the next four months. >> joining me to talk about what is next fort the health care reform debate, cnn political analyst ron brownstein of the "national journal" and you rarely get a chance to meet people in the same place and talk to something about this where you have ven webber on one side who is a mitt romney supporter of the campaign and tom daschle on the other who is clearly someone who pioneered
the health care reform. let's talk a little bit about the money that is involved here. so far, this is the figures that we are talking about. the romney campaign says it has raised $4.2 million since the decision and the obama camp saying it has even earned and raised more. is that where we are headed with this newly reinvigorated campaign? >> yes, by pushing health care into the spotlight, the effect is to energize the base of both sides. reasons overwhelmingly and intensely repulseded by this law. and democrats, richard nixon, and bill clinton and jfk, and obama is the first democratic president to get it through. and it is the most dramatic achievement since medicare and so it is going to be a huge accomplishment. >> yes, and we heard ven webber
who made the case that this is a tax increase, and what does the administration and the president need to do to counter message? >> well, the administration has never done a really good job of explaining what the individual mandate entails. for most people who are uninsur uninsured, they are in all likelihood never pay this tax, because they will choose to buy insurance because they are getting a good deal. for most people they will put in 25 cents on a dollar and the government covers the rest. the tax aspect are for those who choose not to be covered. we will see how many people that are, but keep in mind, even that tax or finer owhatever you want to call it, it is not that large. it is $700 in 2014 when this begins. so i think that this is going to be a new point of debate, but the biggest failure of the administration has had politically on this is explaining what the individual mandate really means. it has been an ideological fight, and very little with the practical fight. >> and how do they explain this for the next four months or explain the e kconomy and the js
numbers next week and the next month? >> the latter. the economy and the trajectory of the economy is the overwhelming dynamic of the election and the health care animates both sides and rallying cry for the most conservative parts of the republican party who sees president obama expanding the government beyond the appropriate role, but for the voters who are not fully committed, they will ultimately decide that the economy is the biggest factor. >> and in the swing states, where is the message going to raze nate the most, and where important to focus on the economy? >> well, it is interesting and in the past when i grew up covering politics, presidential elections, the ip thing point were the rust belt behemoth, and ohio, michigan,michigan, and pennsylvania, and now there is a another belt, florida, and colorado and the southwest in nevada, and the swing states are
different with different problems. the rust belt is older and predominantly white, and the sun belt states are younger and much more racially diverse, but still facing big hangovers from the housing collapse. so you have a different equation in the two groups of states that ultimately between them will settle this race. >> the obama campaign are trying to emphasize the president's foreign policy record and point to the fact of osama bin laden being killed and pointing to the fact that dictators have been toppled and a real radical change in the middle east. does it make sense for them now to bring up those issues or are people paying attention to that or it is really about am i doing better now than four years ago? >> well, what they are doing there is to take a issue off of the table that has benefited the republicans. the sense that republicans are stronger orn national security has been a common feature of presidential elections i have covered since 1980, and obama has been able to neutralize that, but ultimately the key in the race is whether he can convince 50 plus one of the
american people that he has a vision that will make their lives better over the next four years and particularly economically. and the romney goal is to make it as much as possible a retrospective referendum in the last four years recognizing that most people would say they are not better off than four years ago and obama wants to make it a forward going prospective choice of how to get the economy going forward and in that position, the polling shows he is in a better position, and rather than if it centers around ronald reagan's question, are you better off now than four years ago? >> ron, any big ideas here in the conference that impressed you? >> i was in a conference with four members of congress and they say how the congress was not built for the level of systemic partisan conflict. so that we are now seeing.
so we have to adjust the rules or the parties have to bend. because suzanne, most likely, this e llection is going to lea the country divided and if the parties are this deeply divided and the country is closely divided, this is a recipe for gridlock or polarization, unless somebodies on both sides are willing to bend more than they have in the last few years. >> all right. ron, always, your analysis point on, and spot-on always, and it is not the lower oxygen level here in colorado. excellent job. >> good to see you. >> good to see you as well. a soldier opens fire in fort bragg with deadly consequences, and we have a live report from the pentagon. [ female announcer ] goodnight gluttony,
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more now on the deadly shooting at fort bragg, north carolina, and it happened at a safety briefing at the army base. one soldier was killed and two others hurt. authorities say a soldier shot another and then turned the gun on himself. >> this is obviously a tragedy for our community, and we don't yet know the reasons for the shooting, but we are working with the unit and the affected families to help them through this extremely difficult period. >> chris lawrence is live at the pentagon for more. chris, just tell us what happened. >> yes, suzanne, basically, they were in a safety briefing and one soldier pulled out a gun during the briefing and shot and allegedly killed his commanding officer there and wounded another soldier before shooting himself.
we are told that the shooter, himself, although he is in custody, he is not expected to survive. we are also talking to defense officials who are shedding new light in giving new information about why this may have happened. we are told that the specialist who had been in the army about eight years was facing court-martial on criminal charges. he had been accused by the army of stealing a tool box that was worth a couple thousand, and he may have been dishonorably discharged if found guilty after a court-martial. we are also told that he had a special connection to his battalion commander, and the specialist actually serve od on the lieutenant colonel's security detail while both were deployed in afghanistan. suzanne. >> chris, this happened in a safety briefing and are the participants usually armed in these kinds of exercises? >> no, and there are different kinds of safety briefings. you have a serious safety brief
ing if the unit is about to go out on patrol in afghanistan and you want to map out exactly what is going to happen, and a lot of the procedures that are going to take place, but this is not like that. i am told that this is basically a hay, guys, stay safe over the long july 4th weekend and don't drink and drive and just a hey, friendly reminder, you are doing a great job briefing and then all tof s all of the sudden the the soldier pulls out the gun and starts shooting. >> chris, what is going on at fort bragg? there seems to be a lot of stories coming out of that base and a lot of problems and issues they are dealing with. >> yes, and like a lot of the army bases right now, you have a problem with suicide, and you know, fort bragg is no stranger to that. you never want to take one incident and though say it is a massive problem across the base. fort bragg is a sprawling mini city so to speak, and you don't want to know until we know exactly why this happened, it is tough to put this context, and
tie it to other events going on at the base. >> all right. chris lawrence, thank you. we appreciate it. and she graced the ice and she won the hearts of olympics just a few years ago and now michelle kwan trying to empower young women through sports, and she is getting help with secretary clinton. don't forget to watch cnn live at work on your computer at cnn.com/tv.
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she is swimming without a shark cage in heavy shark-infested waters. she is hoping to break her own swimming record and we will keep a close eye on what she is up to. and speaking of women in sports, many young women have found positions of power an influence and even long after they have left the sport they have mastered. i spoke to two such women right here at the aspen ideas festival, former olympians michelle kwan and journalist michelle brennan. >> reporter: you have moved from l.a. to d.c. and you are part of the secretary clinton envoy, and explain what you do. >> well, being a part of the girls in sports is a key initiative to empower girls. i have seen through my travels as a diplomacy envoy on the president's council of fitness and nutrition, the value of sports. i have learned lessons like dedication, and discipline and
falling and getting back up and keep going. >> good to get back up. >> and that gives the girls opportunities. >> why is that important to girls and young women, and why athletics and sports? what role does that play? >> well, sports teaches you life lesso lessons, and it promotes self-esteem, confidence, and this is like we have talked about earlier, in 1972, i talked to girls in generations that don't know that only 40 years ago some girls didn't have an opportunity to play in sports. we have come a long way in the states, but in other countries, and this is what the council does is it will be going global sportsmen or thing where americans are engaging in other parts of the world like south africa, and like egypt and like afghanistan where they are developing and using sports as a tool to mold self-esteem, confidence and empowering women and girls. >> christine, talk about the
40th anniversary of title ix and what that means for women today. >> well, it is huge and you can make a strong case that this is the most important law in our country over the last 40 years, and i know that others could argue, but it is not about sports, as michelle said, but em pow erring girls and women and to think for generations, suzanne, we were telling half of the population, women, girls, that you could not learn about winning and losing at a young age and you could not learn about teamwork and sportsmanship, and the fact that the law came along i think it will have women running for president throughout the 30s and the 40s in the country, and the common denominator for all of those women are going to be that they played sports because of title ix. >> i met this woman here at the aspen institute and she is kenyan and olympian and the fastest woman in the world and she is using sports now to turn warriors and soldiers into competitors and athletes, and she is using sports as a tool for peace. explain the significance of
that. >> i think that one of the messages is to drop the guns and run. but i think that it is a very strong message to send to people. that, the way of friendly competition, and you look at the olympics, itself, and 200 nations coming together for a friendly competition, and we were talking about ping-pong diplomacy and in terms of the sports, it is a way to engage with other countries in a friendly manner. >> why does that happen, christine, do you think, that it is that powerful that you could have enemies put down the weapons and play a game? >> one of the pleasures of covering the olympics and michelle of course at the games and so many other athletes and you saw that thing. jackie joyner-kersee going against the east germans and we can't stand them politically and hugging each other and shaking hand hands and you had that with the competitors who come from nations that we don't necessarily agree with, because it transcends goodwill and fair play and it transcends everything else. that is the message that
certainly michelle is talk about with the state department initiative. >> talk about the olympics, because there is someone who is go ing to stand out and always an event to look for, and who are you watching and christine, who are you watching? >> allyson felix, and she is on the president's council for fitness and nutrition, and she is a young woman who is so inspiring to young girls who want to be in track, and she does it in a way that not only is she smart, strong, beautiful and she can run fast. [ laughter ] >> and in the pool, there is missy franklin who is 17 years old, and she could be in six or seven events in swimming at the london games, and if she is, we will look at her as the female michael phelps, and she is 17, so she has several more olympics coming after this. >> and final question here, we have an obesity crisis in the country, and there are so many young people struggling, and even getting type i i diabetes because they are inactive, and
how do we get the young people involved to take care of themselves and be physically active? what needs to happen? >> i have a sense of responsibility, because i was an athlete and olympian promoting physical activity, and the benefits of sports, and also being an athlete, you have to eat well and sleep and you have to -- and as i transition out of skating into another career path, i have to remind myself, what was it like to eat healthy and sleep and take care of yourself and kids, 1 of 3 children are obese. that is a big problem. so being on the president's council and working with the fir first lady "let's move" initiative is encouraging people to adapt health yir lifestyles. >> and also, what we are seeing is that schools are cutting phys ed, and afterschool programs and frankly, we are going to wrong direction at a time as michelle said so right, we have to be going the other direction. i think that it has to become a national initialtive. you know, we have to care about this again almost the way that back with john kennedy and that
physical fitness craze in the '60s, but do we have the money to pay for it. >> christine and michelle, thank you so much. thank you for your time. that was christine brennan, journalist, and michelle kwan, olympian. a lot of the folks have been trying to find out the student loan interest rates if they are going up or going to double on sunday, and congress just voted on it moments ago. you are looking at a live picture on capitol hill.
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congress is voting today on a bill to keep some student loan rates from doubling and it passed the house. now it goes to the senate. the bill keeps the rate on new loans at 3.4% for another year, more than 7 million students are actually affected. the student loan bill is included in a larger piece of legislation and includes $109 billion. and to continue programs that pave roads and improve bridges, the senate is also expected the approve that measure. the man who shot and killed florida teenager trayvon martin returned to court today. george zimmerman and he is asking to be let out of jail on bond for a second time. a judge revoked zimmerman's bond earlier this month, and he and his wife did not tell the court they had received $150,000 in donations. his attorney says that zimmerman was scared and confused at the time and deserves to be let out on bond, and he argued that the government's case is weak. no word yet on how the judge is
going to rule. high school dropout rate in philadelphia hovering around 40%, but one man's afterschool program is now changing urban education. >> i wake up at 6:15. i'm out of the door precisely at 6:30. my name is stephan gonzales and i'm a member of the disability workshop. i catch the bus, if if i miss it, i walk down to willow avenue and catch the bus. it is worth the commute. >> people my age can do a lot of things, but right now with the school district of philadelphia, there really isn't any energy efficiency or urban sustainability courses worked into the school day. i think that besides the project-based learning that we do here, that is the biggest difference. every day is different here at the sustainability workshop.
>> one of the ways that i nknow that i'm successful is that when you look at the students, and the ways they have grown this year compared to the kind of growth i have seen in the more traditional approach to education is outstanding. >> this has worked better than we imagined. >> okay. keep an eye on the stock market this hour and a major breakthrough deal to help the banks in the eurozone could impact your 401(k) and i will take you to the new york stock exchange to explain.
. >> we are watching a huge rally on wall street. this news is huge news for investors and alison kosik there to explain to us what this deal entailed and why does it have folks excite d on wall street? >> okay. suzanne, what this deal does is several things. in theory what it is going to do is to create a central banking union with the central bank overseeing the banks in the eurozone, because before this, it was like every bank for itself, and every man for himself. what this banking union does is important because there are 17 kun ri in the eurozone, so finally doing something novel and showing cohesion and putting one group over all of the banks so it makes coordinating the solutions when things go wrong easier and easier to put the
money into the banks that are struggling to survive. until now, the individual countries, suzanne, they had to borrow money to help the banks and that drove up the country's debt load which ultimately hurt the banks and made it more expensive for them to borrow money and meant they needed more money. what this does is to break the vicious cycle that is happening, and that is why you are seeing the investors so happy about the deal. and you are seeing the dow rally 228 points higher right now. suzanne. >> wow. that's pretty amazing. is this really considered a major breakthrough? >> well, you know, you talk to different people, and they are kind of skeptical about this. you know this, we have seen many of the european meetings come back with the short term fixes with the european debt problems to continue the stick around. and you know what this is all about right now? and what we are hearing about this deal is follow-through, and the finance ministers have to sit at the table and hammer out how the agreement is going to work. there are a lot of questions around it, like how many money is in the eurozone bailout funds, and guess what, it is not
a bottomless pit, and investors are excited because it is the first time that the eu leaders have shown a sign of urgency to fix the crisis which is essentially restoring the confidence here on wall street at least for one day. s suzanne. >> all right. okay. good news then. alison, thank you very much. it is not just governments trying to get the finances in order, but how do you balance your own personal finances? we well, poppy harlow is here to explain at the help desk. >> hello, everyone. here at the help desk i have e ryan mack and carmen wong ullrich, and this question is for you, ryan. >> i just got my first job in new york today, and how do you balance a budget in new york city? >> reporter: and how many money here, ballpark? >> i haven't found out yet, but i am thinking around $45,000 for the salary. >> well, it is expensive to live in a big city. >> well, this reminds me of a
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the first genome map that was created, we have the potential to look at your dna and reconstruct that sequence and look for differences, the small differences that might contribute to the kinds of things you talked about earlier. >> what would i know if i got my dna mapping? what would i find out? >> there's a limited amount we can find out today but we might find out your risk for breast cancer or certain types of colon cancer. we might know about your risk for diabetes. we learn more every day. it allows us to build the data to begin to understand what the associations are between dna and disease. >> chris, how would you use that in the medical field? >> there's lots of the different treatments that can cure disease. we're pretty far away from much of that technology turning into
life saving treatment. >> give us a sense, how much does it cost now? can i get this done at a reasonable price? >> the cost has fallen dramatically. today it's down to 2 or $3,000. there's opportunity to collect that kind of data for you and me. i have a little boy who is six. i guarantee by the time he's six, his genome will be sequenced. >> you'll know what kind of diseases he'll face? >> we'll know more. genetics is sort of kwaun famil history. >> chris, does this lower the
health care costs if we have this kind of information? >> it can. right now we're at the early stages of this innovation. there's a life sickle. there's the discovery phase. there's a delivery to market life-saving treatments. we're somewhere between discovery and development. there's different types of companies that are involved. it's a public-private partnership that has to happen. >> finally, do you recommend that people get this kind of dna mapping? >> is it important? >> the amount of information we can deliver today for you, a healthy, normal person, is pretty limited. if you have a disease like cancer, there's a recent study that shows half the cancer patients whose dna they
sequenced, they could find something. today no. at some point, yes. >> it's really fascinating stuff. john and chris thank you so much. appreciate it. it's a tiny town in colorado that dates back to the 1300s. there's only one medical facilities and some people have strong opinions about the supreme court's health care decision.
supreme court ruling on health care reform affects just about every american. it's a big issue, and the presidential race. what do folks think about the decision? we visited a small colorado town to find out. >> reporter: news arrived about the time that folks sat down. this rural south western colorado town, population 1300, dates back to the days of the old west. jean is the editor of the mancus times. >> we have snow birds. we have people just come for the summer and leave for the winter. we have people who have retired here and people who have lived here their whole lives. >> reporter: it voted 59% for john mccain in 2008. the conservatives were born here and the liberals moved here.
>> i think it's wonderful. i think there are problems with law as it was originally written, but it's about time that the united states of america started caring of its own citizens. >> reporter: he's as close to a permanent doctor as you'll get. he runs the only medical facility. 60 to 70% of his patients rely on a public program something he finds ironic given the criticism he hears of obama care. >> it's an interesting conversation for people that are on medicare or receive some type of federal assistance to complain about having government health care. >> reporter: betty has health care insurance but she knows many who don't. she's an obama care fan. >> there are people who are dying of cancer because they don't have health care. they can't walk into a doctor's office and get the help they
need. >> reporter: it may surprise you but unlike the rest of the country, the big news here in town isn't the supreme court's ruling on health care, instead, it's that. wildfires that continue to threaten from just down the road. it's easy to get people talking about health care, which i did with will stone who makes wagons for a living. he's against obamacare mainly because of the individual main date. >> that's the biggest burr under my saddle is the mandate. i just don't care for it. i don't like to be told to do anything. >> reporter: matt owns and runs the roasters. he's against obamacare, not because he's against national health care. he just thinks the president's plan is the wrong one. >> it's a gift to the insurance companies. it's not going to do anything to ensure health care for all. that's the bottom line.
>> reporter: it may seem like a long way from anywhere, but i find it to be a microcosm of america. >> "cnn newsroom" continues right now with brooke baldwin. we're awaiting the arrival of the president to a very devastated colorado because of the wildfires. he's on the ground. he wants to get a first hand look at wildfires that have turned deadly. this as the state learns some very big guns are headed its way. tomorrow eight, c-130s will join the fight. they are all being activated right now.
this wildfire in colorado springs is now officially the worst in the state's history consuming nearly 350 homes and now we are learning at least one person has been killed. one person is missing and this fire is not even close to being contained. don't forget, this is just one of many fires burning across the rocky mountain west. sandra has been covering this colorado springs fire for us. the last number i saw was 346 homes destroyed. does that number still hold? >> reporter: that's right. that still holds at this hour. we know in terms of containment, it's only 15%. when you consider the number of days the fires have been going on, that's pretty good news. we're here at the air force academy which is being used as a helibase. we're seeing helicopters come in, land, scoop up some fire retardant and going out into the
fire zone to really try to combat that blaze up on the mountain, and clearly, there's a lot of work yet to be done. so far, fire officials say they have been holding the southwest line of this fire zone, which meerns a lot of homes are being protected. that's the good news. with only 15% containment and hundreds of homes destroyed, we're hearing stories of devastation and search crews are going through the areas where the flames have been extinguished, and that's where they found the body of one charred person inside a home yesterday evening. they are still trying to account for people who are missing. >> thank you. i also read a report that two people were arrested for trying to burglarize one of those evacuated homes. the president will be touching down. he's already declared the state a disaster area.
i was to go to dan in colorado springs. is the president on the ground yet? >> reporter: the president is not yet on the ground. he will only be here for a few hours. this is an important moment for the president to get an up close look at meet with some of those impacted by the fires. he will also be briefed on the latest information. the big message will be that the federal government is here to assist in any way possible, not only during the ongoing operation now as sandra was talking about. there's still dropping water on the flare ups, but also during the recovery from this massive fire. we were at a press conference a short time ago with local officials. they were talking about the impacts that the fires have had on businesses. this is something local officials and residents are looking to the federal
government to be able to provide some much needed resources to help out during this very difficult time. you were talking so much about the fire here in colorado springs but also in northern colorado, there's another massive fire. it's about 85% contained. they are getting the upper hand. they hope to have that fully contained by this weekend. they have lost more than 240 or so homes. more than 600 homes have been destroyed and two people have been killed. about half of all wildfires are being in the state. the president coming here to promise that the federal government will continue to assist. >> dan, i'm curious because the smoke is so bad. i'm wondering if the president's plans on the grounds have changed at all and if the president and his team have to be flexible? >> reporter: he does have to be
flexible. i know there were issues as to where he could fly in. there were concerns about not only the conditions but the resources that have been amassed on the ground at the airfield. we're told the sheriff's department has had to take over in terms of assisting traffic control and helping secret service and federal agencies because the local police department is overwhelmed dealing with the situation here on the ground. the sheriff's department has had to step up to help out during this presidential visit. >> thank you again. we are waiting for the arrival of the president. he will be speaking during the show. we'll bring that to you live. the fire is so big, it's record breaking. so many homes have burned. it's tough to wrap your head around the loss. consider this. byron had to grab his wife and
his 1-year-old baby girl and make a run for it. he's taking the time to join me on the phone from colorado springs. first, i'm just wondering where you are now. how are you? how's emma? >> i'm in colorado springs at work. emma is hanging out with grandma and grandpa. she's loving life right now. >> she's loving life. how about you and your wife and your home? how did you find out it was a loss? >> tuesday evening i was listening to the emergency skanser and i heard one of them say majestic is gone, which is the street our house is on. we saw the fire over the mountain. the city of colorado springs had a meeting last night to confirm. it was hard. >> majestic is gone.
did you have any lead time? did you have a moment to pack your car with your most precious possessions before you left? >> we were evacuated on saturday. our mindset was we'll be back in a few days. this is just for safety. we grabbed some clothes, stuffed animals, laptops, cell phones. grabbed some important documents out the file cabinet. we didn't grab my wife's grandmother china. i looked at it and said we'll be back in a few days. we miss some of those really personal items. >> what else did you lose? >> my wife is thinking about her wedding dress? it was really special to her. the rocking chair that we rocked emma to sleep in for a year. that's one that we're both really distraught over not
having anymore. >> byron, i'm sorry for those things you lost, at least they are things. i'm glad you and your wife and emma are okay. thank you for calling in. it's awful to hear these story, chad. it's awful. >> the same heat in the east caused all this mess out there. >> really? >> so very hot. lightning caused a couple of thunderstorms. they are saying undetermined for a few of them. they'll try to figure that out. people were jumping ahead. it's still undetermined. the fire happened so fast. there was no moisture left in the timber at all. all these dead things on the ground. they were just ready to burn. >> that's why the homeowner thought they would go back to their home. >> ironically a thunderstorm
caused all that? all those homes were lost because of a thunderstorm. a thunderstorm that happened in the wrong place. you know how it can get gusty. it blew the fire down the maintaimai mountains to the homes. charlotte 102. it's going to be 102 to 104 in atlanta. we don't get that hot down here because it's so muggy all the time. by the time it gets to 90, it just rains. there are no showers today. there's nothing that will keep the heat out of here. the temperatures you see on you're tv station, those are temperatures that are taken in a white box in the shade. if you're working on a concrete or asphalt other outside at all,
you're not in a white box in the shade. you're going to feel temperatures even warmer. the number that strikes me the most is 107 in nashville. 106 tomorrow. not much relief at all. for the next five days temperatures across much of the area will be 100 degrees or better for five solid days. >> i'm already braciing myself for the slap of heat. many americans are taking the hit. they are about to take a big hit financially. speaking of money, the ceo of starbucks challenged every american. he says he needs your answers, and it might help revive the entire u.s. economy. ♪
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just into us here. word of this mass i recall from toyota. this involves lexus vehicles. you can see the model at the bottom of your screen. the reason, the pedals could get trapped by the floor mats. toyota recalled millions of these cars because of a similar floor mat issue. today is the last day before congress splits for the 4th of july holiday. before they get out of dodge, the house and the senate are doing something to keep interest rates on federal student loans doubling. many of you sighing relief. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange. let's look quickly at the
numbers. pretty decent rally today up 226 points. why? >> there's a deal in europe that's got some muscle to it. they have rooeched a deal to help banks over there to stay afloat. it means there's going to be a banking union that will oversee the banks. that one entity will be able to put rescue funds into the bank and allow more coordination with the european banking system. that's restoring confidence. >> a little confidence when it comes to people paying their student loans. congress really sort of coming down to the wire with the vote on the student loans, passed the house. we're waiting still for the senate. >> yes. it just passed the senate. now the bill will move on to the president's desk. you can bet that president obama is going to sign this. what congress voted on is to keep interest rates on the federal college loans at 3.4%.
the rates would have doubled this weekend to 6.8%. last minute, congress, that's what we can call them? this really matters because most students take ten years to pay off their loans. the interest accrues year and year. the legislation will be affecting more than 7 million students who take out new loans. it costs $6 billion to keep the rates low and limiting how long student ks go to school without accruing interest on their loans. we're going to be hearing about this next year. this is just kind of a time, this is just for a year. the legislation keeps the rates at 3.4% only until june 30th of next year. we'll be having this conversation next year. i want to show you some live
pictures. the president is on the ground. air force one has landed in colorado springs. he is in town to take a look with his own eyes at the damage and devastation of 346 homes destroyed. he's declared this area a disaster areas which means a lot of local folks are pleased. that means they get federal aid. president obama now in colorado springs. starbucks new campaign is about getting you not to buy coffee, but to brainstorm about how to revive america's economy. the ceo wrote an open letter, how can america win this election? he said i invite you to share your view of america in how we can put citizenship over partnership. post a photo and provide a link to an innovative idea. blog about who is making a
difference in your community on on youtube. share how you made your american dream come true. starbucks be do our part to amplify your voices. i know you interviewed howard multiple times. in terms of the timing of this letter, why now? >> i think because it's going to be the 4th of july. the time when he said we celebrate the promise of america. he told me a few months ago, this is the defining moment in history of our country. washington is so divided. congress can't get a lot down. milli millions of people don't have jobs. he said i love america, but we all know there is something wrong and we are better than this. the deficits are much more than
financial. our inability to solve our own problems is sapping our national spirit. this is coming from the ceo of one of the massive fortune 500 company that had a report year proper profitability. does this help him sell coffee? he insists it's not marketing. >> if he's asking for the tweets, what does he do with that? >> i believe from the times i've talked to him is to get people like you, me, our neighbors to act where washington won't. he's called on business leaders numbers of time and us to start small businesses. i talked about this issue. they put the wristbands out there that they sold to raise money to go for microloans for
people. listen to why they are doing this. >> we can't sit by and be a bistander any longer. people are sharing their own tragic story about losing faith in the american dream. you know my own story. i grew up on the other side of the track. i carry that with me. i don't want to be a bystander. >> he's saying do something about it. we're going to see this add run page. we know that's expensive. it's not the first time he's gone out on a limb. he issued a petition to ask everyone to not give a dime to washington until they got their house in order. starbucks came out in january and supported gay marriage. this is a company that goes out
on a political limb. is howard going to run for office. >> i'm sure you asked him. >> he believes he can get more done in the private sector than washington, which at this point i agree with. you cannot pass law or change people's lives in that way, but as a brand that everyone knows, he is putting it out there. there are critics that say this is just about the brand and the marketing. >> and free cup of coffee on the 4th of july. >> i clearly see he's gone out on a limb. it doesn't make him popular. >> you're here just not because you like me. >> i love you. >> i'm filling in for fredericka. a millionaire living a lavish lifestyle convicted of arson but seconds after he heard the verdict, a stunning moment
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another made off soon to be behind bars. bernie madoff's brother pleads guilty. he lied to investors and deceived the i.r.s. he faces up to a decade. bernie madoff still in north carolina serving that 150-year prison. this man who made millions of dollars apparently killed himself in court. killed himself in court moments
after the jury found him guilty of burning down his mansion because he couldn't afford to pay the mortgage. >> reporter: michael marine, banker, adventure and multimillionaire will be remembered as an arsonist. >> we the jury, do find the defendant michael james guilty of arson of an occupied structure. >> reporter: this man who lived life charge is the same man who in may 2009 syped with tv as he scaled mt. everest. >> gone up to 25,000 feet. >> reporter: it was a very dangerous climb to the top that nearly cost him his life. >> it's a reminder that you're in a dangerous business and
you're profoundly grateful for the grace that gives you life to breathe. >> reporter: it was just a couple of months later that his home went up in flames and he was thankful. this time for the grace of his scuba gear. >> some air left in that tank and that's how i was able to get back to the window. >> reporter: the tank and the ladder made firefighters suspicious. >> my year on a job, it's the first time i saw somebody use scuba diving equipment to get out of a fire. >> reporter: he was charged with torching his home because he couldn't pay the mortgage. guilty of murder and a shocking reaction. it appears he took something in court, collapsed and moments later died. >> he could have been sentenced
to 16 years in prison on that arson conviction. the army investigating why a soldier opened fire at ft. bragg. we'll get you a live reaction, next. people with a machine. what ? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it ? hello ? hello ?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello ?
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what the judge's ruling. >> at the time the first bond was set, he claimed to be broke. the judge found out he raised $135,000 online. one soldier is dead. two others are injured. not overseas, right here at home on an army base. i'm talking about ft. bragg, north carolina. the shooter is one of the wounded souwound ed soldiers who tried to kill himself. what do you know as far as any motive? >> reporter: we're getting new information that may help explain why this soldier shot and killed his commanding officer. we're told this special who had been in the army eight years was under investigation and facing a possible court-martial. the army accused him of stealing a tool box from the motor pool. it was worth a couple thousand dollars. he may have faced dishonorable
discharge if he was found guilty. we also learned this specialist had a unique relationship with his battalion commander. he was on the security detail when the two of them were serving on a tour in afghanistan. brooke. >> are soldiers typically armed? >> reporter: no, and this wasn't the safety briefing you get when you go out on a foot patrol. i'm told this was a pat on the book with the commander saying you guys are doing a great job. stay safe over this 4th of july weekend. doin don't drive and drive. he pulls out a gun and starts shooting. >> this isn't the first time there's been an incident. there's been a number of incidents, have there not?
>> reporter: a couple of months ago there was an investigation into the warrior transition unit after there were six suicides and a dozen domestic disputes. not knowing enough about this case, really hard to say whether it's connected to anything else that's happened on base or just an isolated personal incident. as the left and right keep on bickering, my next guest says the decision may harm the economy. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye.
about an hour and a half away from the closing bell. take a look that the rally. the dow up 244 poun 4 points. part of this what happened in europe. they decided they will send out bail out money to struggling banks. let's talk politics for a moment. you say this for the republicans. they don't exactly quit easily. less than two weeks from today they are expected to vote to repeal obamacare in the house. there's so much more that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. rick newman is the chief business correspondent.
he's also the author of "rebounders." welcome. i know you posted something after the supreme court upheld the affordable care act. how it could harm the economy. you're not focusing on the cost, are you in. >> we've known about the cost for a long time. i think businesses have done a lot to get ready for that. the real question is what happens next in washington. i think a bad scenario for the economy would be there's another big fight over obama care, that now we move into an effort to repeal it. it becomes another long dragged out fight. the real danger is it might distract folks in washington that are much more important right now. a lot of business leaders don't like the obama health care law, but they say it's way more important to deal with the
fiscal cliff that we have been hearing about. right after that, we're going to have to deal with another extension of the government's borrowing limit. that was a man-made disaster the last time we had to deal with that which was last summer. there's a lot of stuff that needs to be worked out. >> let's go back to the fiscal cliff. all of this is said to expire. you have the bush tax cuts. you have the alternative minimum tax exemptions, the payroll tax cut. there's the automatic cuts in spending that came out of that debt ceiling non-deal. it would take like $7 billion from the economy. what has to be saved and what has to go? >> the most maddening thing about this is that everybody knows what needs to be done. none of this is secret. we know it's going to go down to the last second. what everybody would like to see
congress do is extend the decision making. say we're going to extend most of the tax cuts for another year and when the next congress comes in into kuoffice and the next president, say we're going to work this down. we might do a a little bit to help the economy today. that might happen. if it does happen, it's going to happen at the last second. >> that's short term. what about long term deficit reduction? >> we know that's not going to happen before the election. nobody wants to make the hard decisions. that means probably cutting medicare and making a lot of unpopular decisions. everybody knows these have to be made. businesses are saying if washington can't tell us what's going to happen with these important issues, we're going to wait. we're going to do nothing. we're not going to spend more than we have to. we're not going to hire more than we have to.
we're seeing a slowdown in the economy. businesses are just saying i'm going to way and see until i know what's coming out of washington later in the year. >> this is something, this one particular word on the lips of every republican yesterday after the supreme court ruling came down. watch this. >> let's repeal this and start over again. >> it marks a fresh start on the road to repeal. >> to make sure this law is repeed. >> we will repeal obama care. >> okay. we get it. repeal. you say congress needs to get its act together and that applies to both parties, but it's the republicans that are driving for the repeal. if that distracts congress, is the gop to blame for that? >> i think everybody would like to hear the gop say, we don't like obama care, we'll repeal it but let's solve these other problems first. solve the other problems that business leaders are saying you
need to solve the problems and get to it. we all know this is about politicking. we're going to hear this until election day and the question is who is the next president and what happens after election day in november. >> i was talking to senator blunt yesterday, a republican, he did utter the compromise word. we shall say. thank you very much. good talking to you. in the middle of the night as families are sound asleep, an explosion, gunfire. this is the horrific reality inside syria. there's this piece of video that made us stop in our tracks. you have to see this. you know, i have done something worthwhile. when i earned my doctorate through university of phoenix, that pride, that was on my face. i am jocelyn taylor. i'm committed to making a difference in people's lives, and i am a phoenix.
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syria. rebel forces say more than 14,000 people have been killed since this uprising began. almost all of them civilian, men, women, children and here in an area near those explosions you just heard, bodies lined up one after the other after shelling took the lives of more than 50 people. this is a neighborhood. families live here. many call it a complete massacre. it was this one clip that really made us stop. i have to warn you, it's graphic. these are bodies of elderly people. they have been shot in their heads. it's believed they were killed by syrian forces. always have to say this, cnn cannot confirm the images because syria limits journalists from entering the country. these victims were clearly killed deliberately. they were elderly. they with in their homes. it's hard to imagine what threat
these men and women could have posed. the videos are tough to watch, but we want to share them with you to give you an idea of how horrific the conflict in syria has gotten. many fear the fighting will bleed into other countries. hillary clinton is in russia trying to get help to end the slaughter in syria. i don't want to go there it all again, but i'll risk it if it does work. it's worth the risk. >> one couple has tried everything to get pregnant. they're last resort. entering a contest to win fertility treatments. wait until you hear this emotional story.
you play mommy. it's something that i want a lot. >> reporter: emily has suffered seven miscarriages since their marriage five years ago. they have been picked out names. >> my grandfather was a very big part of my life. >> reporter: jim, an active duty marine has been deployed six times in ten years. news of one miscarriage came by satellite phone in afghanistan. >> i was sitting on the hood on a phone when i got the news. i think the hardest part about it is not being able to be there to comfort her. >> reporter: they have tried everything from hol listic medicine to fertility treatments. >> i have scar tissue on one side of my butt because of the
injections. >> reporter: they had chance for something they never could afford for advance ivf treatment up to $20,000. they gambled making a video. deeply personal stuff posted online for the world to see. >> there's no one in our nursery yet. we are very hopeful still. >> reporter: 44 other cups made videos. their stories equally heartbreaking. >> we just want to be a happy family. >> reporter: an independent panel widdled the panel down to six. they were supposed to vote on one winner. >> we started off offering it to one couple. it was largely because of me that we went to three. i said give it to them. i wish i could give it to everybody. he admits the contest is as much
as publicity ploy as designed to help the needy. he said if anyone can help emily, he can. >> you have to use certain gymnastics to fertilize the egg. you have to have a good seed and identify it and you have tow have receptive soil. >> reporter: emily was diagnosed unexplained fertility. the leslie from las vegas had a similar problem with her second child. she and her husband won a previous contest offered by the sure institute. >> they took 15 eggs op eight fertilized. only one embryo made it. >> reporter: no one is more thrilled.
>> smile. >> reporter: than his 6-year-old sister, kendra. they have their first consultation this week and hope to be pregnant by october. they feel this may be their last best chance. >> i don't want to go through it all again, but -- >> we'll cross that bridge when it comes. >> i'll risk it. it's worth the risk to find out if it will work. >> reporter: faith has gotten them this far. now they are hoping for a miracle. >> how about that? we are expecting president obama to speak live from the s disaster area in colorado where families are losing their homes. we have a close eye on that. talso, it's a growing
now this is happening in europe. that prompted this 26-year-old father of two to go on television to sell his kidney. the new york times profiled him on europe's black market of organ sales and the man who wrote this article joins me by phone from paris. you start this piece by profiling this couple so desperate for money, the husband lost his job at this meat factory and can't afford a tombstone for his own father and wants to sell his kidney. >> he thought he could get about 30,000 euros so about $40,000 and sadly, he didn't think it was much of a sacrifice because he's trying to put food on the table for his family. >> this is something we have reported on pakistan, india,
philippines. when i read about thought europe. how widespread is this? >> it's a little bit in the early stages. i scoured internet ads in spain, greece and countries like russia and i found dozens of ads. people trying to sell kidneys, breast milk and sperm and asking as much as $250,000 for lungs. >> explain this process. how do you go from the seller to the recipient? >> the sad fact is that in the age of internet it's easy to try to sell your organs. people are finding internet classified ads on their local internet sites and newspapers and putting it on kids. a crime is not committed until you have sold the organ. there are dozens of ads. they can scan the classified
sections and try to find vulnerable people who want to sell them. what's shocking is the extent to which it was so wide out in the open. >> these images are from dani daniel's piece. you mentioned it's a crime only once the organ is sold, is that correct? this is legal up until that point, is that correct? >> as far as i know, with cannot be prosecuted for putting an ad in the newspaper. it's the point that the kidney is extracted and money is exchanged that the law is broken. these people are not breaking the law, but still they leave themselves vulnerable. >> how often is it prosecuted? >> in the same of