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kids, and moms, you know? and i'm like 22 years old and i didn't get shot, and it's like, you know, why didn't he take me? >> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye, 8:00 in the east, 6:00 a.m. here in aurora, colorado, where we continue to learn more details about the mass shooting that happened here early friday morning. the sun just came up here a short time ago in aurora, but new light just illuminates what we don't know -- why. we know that james holmes is the man suspected in the shooting that killed 12 at the movie theater you see here behind me. we know that as many as 11 other people are in critical condition at this hour this morning. we also know that the suspect, james holmes, left behind a trap for police. investigators are just now renewing efforts to get inside his apartment. inside, looking through the window, police have seen trip wires, cans of gasoline, and ammunition, thousands of rounds of ammunition. we are also learning more about
the victims. heartbreaking stories from their families are hitting home with all of us. we'll share some of those stories throughout the morning. let's get right to our poppy harleararlo harlow, though. she is at holmes' apartment, at that apartment complex for us this morning. poppy, what is the activity taking place there this hour? >> reporter: good morning, randi. it's really picking up. what you see behind me, if you can make out those busted windows on the third floor of that complex, that is james holmes' apartment on the third floor. i want to play you some video now that we just shot. what i can tell you is that the denver bomb squad has arrived in the past half hour. the arapahoe county bomb squad, as well as the adams county bomb squad, all local here around denver, just arrived, as well as atf. i just spoke with one of the atf members. we're going to the try to get someone on camera right after this. they have just arrived as well, so they're preparing to assess the situation in the apartment, randi, assess how bad it is, possibly go inside, but just getting on scene in the last
half an hour, randi. >> and poppy, i was actually at the apartment last night for "anderson cooper 360," and from what i understand, they had sent these robots in yesterday, right, to get a look at what was inside, and they found trip wires and a whole bunch of incendiaries. are they possibly going to send those robots back in to detonate what's inside? >> reporter: that's a very good yes. i don't know the answer. i will ask that, try to get an answer for you. but they sent the robots in to get pictures and film of what it was and how bad it was. and then as you know, the police chief, dan oates called it a vexing situation, unlike anything he'd ever seen. i can tell you that they brought in federal government officials, people from outside to help go through that video, to assess how bad it is, before they do send any human personnel inside. but i will tell you, randi, i think it's interesting, we're only, you know, i would say a few hundred feet away from the apartment, so traffic is moving here, people are around the neighborhood. so it doesn't seem like a
situation where they think at this point there's going to be a massive explosion, because we are allowed here. but i tried to cross, asked, can we get across the police lines? absolutely not. they are letting officials pass police lines, fire trucks, police officers, atf into that area. but at this point in time, obviously, no civilians, floano reporters allowed, but i'll ask if they're going to send those robots and cameras back in. >> i think from what i understand, they might have to do that, because they're going to have to shut down traffic in that area, and they don't want to risk any human life, but that could happen as early as this morning. poppy, thank you very much for the update from that apartment complex. now let me bring in jim spellman. he's been here at the theater overnight. and jim, good morning to you. what has been the -- what has the activity been like overnight? have people been coming to pay their respects at all? >> people have set up a makeshift memorial here, candles litigant, like you would almost see like in the foyer of a church. it was about 5:00 last night that authorities were able to
get the last of the bodies out, we should get the list of names later this morning. this is still an active scene. they're going to open the rest of this shopping area and try to start maybe getting back a little bit to normal here. sunday night's going to be a major vigil where the whole community can come together, try to start the healing process. >> people are talking a lot about columbine. from those you've spoken with, how do you think this community is coping? >> reporter: well, i live here, randi, this is my home, and i was stunned to see how present columbine is still in this community. people have turned it into a positive. people have embraced that and turn that horrible event into a positive, into a show of strength, and i think you'll see this that again. it's terrible that this community has had to go through this kind of thing again, but in a way, i think they're ready to show they're not going to be put down like a horrible event like this. >> i've been able to sense a little bit of a community on edge, though. even from security and the level
of law enforcement around the area, so many questions depending on where you're trying to go. there's just sort of a high tension here. >> and this happened at such a -- it's almost like a ritual, to go to like a midnight showing of the big summer popcorn movie. people were there on dates. >> some for their birthdays. >> people with wedding anniversaries coming up. you know, it's such a fun, innocent kind of thing. it's a break from the heat, it's a break from everything. and to have this happen on such an innocent sort of thing, where you expect to be safe. nobody expects to not be safe in a movie tater, you know? >> certainly not. well, this is a strong community, as you said, so we'll continue to check back with you throughout the morning. poppy harlow as well, and jim spellman, thank you. now let's talk about the victims. this morning we found out that 23-year-old mikalah medec was among the 12 people killed. her family didn't find out for 19 hours after the shooting.
earlier this morning, gary tuchman talked with her aunt on the phone. >> she was a free spirit. she was a happy person. she never criticized people. you know, she was just working at a subway, trying to find her way. she's just a great kid. >> then she also had something to say to the family of the shooter. >> i feel for the family of the shooter. i can't imagine what they're going through at this time. just let them know, we don't blame them for his actions. and my heart goes out to the mom and dad of that family, too. >> of course, the family of the suspect, james holmes, is still trying to make sense of everything, and they have asked for privacy as well. we have heard so many compelling stories from witnesses to the ooting. that jennifer seeger was there
in that theater just feet away from the suspect when he started shooting and she joins me now. jennifer, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> a very difficult situation, i'm sure. some very scary moments. we've heard a little bit about what happened in that theater. give me your perspective. what did you think was happening right away? >> right away, at first i thought that he was just some kind of an entertainer, to just, you know, bring some, you know, fun stuff to the -- >> so you saw him come in? >> yeah, i did. i was in the very front, and was the first person in that row, so i was probably the first person he saw when he walked in. and he swung the door open and he walked in, and everybody just thought he was like an actor or something. but we started realizing it was real when he threw the gas grenade, and then he took his first shot into the ceiling, and then he pointed the gun at me and then i really knew it was real at that point. >> why do you think he didn't shoot you? >> i get that question a lot, and honestly, i don't know. i can't explain it. it doesn't make any sense,
really. but i just think it's by the grace of god or something, i was just lucky and blessed. but i moved out of the way pretty quickly. >> did you get on the ground? >> i dove to the ground and covered my best friend and everybody else in the row, i told them to calm down and at the point we could, we tried to get away. >> and did your friend get out as well as? >> yeah, perfectly fine. escaped. >> what's it like for you to come back here? it's only 24 hours? >> it's 24 hours, and it's still kind of surreal. little bits and pieces are starting to flash back, but it's still not hitting me as far as memories, and i've just been nonstop since then. so i think once things cool down and i have time to think about, it's going to be a little rough to think about. >> how did it appear to you? was he shooting randomly or targeting certain types of people? >> it didn't seem like he had an agenda, but he literally came up
and down the stairs and shot anybody. didn't matter if you were sitting or trying to escape or you were a man or a woman, it didn't matter. she was shooting people left and right, it didn't matter. >> and most people didn't understand what was happening? >> at first, they were just like, oh, is he really -- what is he doing? is he really a bad guy? is he really trying to hurt us or is this just a show? at that points, it was just kind of a shock when he took that first shot. everybody paused. and then it became chaotic after that. >> i hope you're doing well. you seem to be doing well. >> i'm trying, i'm just really exhausted more than anything, mentally and physically. >> sure. take care of yourself. >> yeah, thank you. >> thank you. up next, another survivor who says she thought the gunfire was a joke back in aurora, colorado, right after this. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news
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this morning, we are hearing horrifying stories from people who survived the shooting in an aurora, colorado, movie theater. we are here this morning. you can see the movie theater behind me. a lot of folks are coming by just to see what happened here, pay their respects, and a lot of the families are coming by. they've set up a small memorial in the area. one of those survivors, we'd
like to bring her in now. she was actuall inside that movie theater. her name is emma goose, and along with many others, she didn't know exactly what was happening right away. she joins us live to talk a little bit about it. good morning to you, emma. >> good morning. >> so give me an idea, who were you with in that movie theater? >> i was with five of my friends. we were six in total for our group. it was my best friend's birthday. we were going out to see the premiere for her birthday. so she was with her boyfriend and then a couple other friends. a friend of mine, who's visiting from the college that we met at, because i go to school in new mexico, and he was visiting aurora, just to come see me, and got involved in this. >> and were you with your boyfriend as well? >> no, just friends. >> and what did you think was happening right away? a lot of people thought it was part of the show. >> absolutely, it looked like a prank or something that the theater was putting on. some kind of promotion for the movie. he looked like a villain, like a super villain, dressed up in some kind of costume with all
the armor on. but it was pretty clear after a few seconds that he was not joking and it was not a prank. >> how would you say the community is dealing with this? as we look ahead and move away from what happened inside and talk about what happened outside. >> i know that there was a candlelight vigil last night, just on the corner. i know there's another tonight at gateway high school to remember a.j. who passed away. the community is coming together so beautifully. they're just supporting everyone who was involved, all of the victims, their families, people who are just so overwhelmed and have never dealt with anything like this before in their life. i know that there are a lot of grievance counselors available for anyone and everyone who wants to talk or who needs to talk. th the city has really encouraged support anding able to get through it together. >> we're getting so much information coming out about the weapons that he had. four weapons, including an
assault rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun. what do you think when you hear about that, about what could have been, even worse than what happened. >> oh, goodness, it's hard to even fathom. i mean, it was terrifying enough for the 20 rounds of a rifle that i heard while i was still in the theater. i can't imagine how much more was shot off in the time that i -- that he was still in there after i escaped. i can't imagine what he had planned. it's horrific. >> it is. well, we're glad you made it out and thank you for coming here this morning. >> absolutely. >> and sharing your story. emma goos, appreciate that. police and firefighters are returning to the suspect's apartment this morning. they face trip wires and booby traps. i'll be back with much more from aurora, colorado.
welcome back, from aurora, colorado. i'm here at the movie theater where the shooting happened. just a short distance from here, about four miles or so, is james holmes' apartment. holmes is the suspect, as you now know, in the shooting. investigators are back at the apartment at this hour, but still haven't been able to get inside, and that's because they've seen trip wires and ammunitions, a web of wires there in the living room. a very dangerous situation. joining me now to talk about this is hln law enforcement analyst, mike brooks. good morning to you. >> good morning, randi.
>> they're saying that it possibly could take them days to get inside that apartment. i'm sure that doesn't surprise you, given what they're up against. >> i think they'll probably be putting their plan together this morning. they were able yesterday when they made that alternate entry through the window, i saw one of the special agents from the fbi taking pictures. he had a camera around his neck. and they were able to get the robot in yesterday, just to take a peek inside, and take a look around the apartment to see exactly what they were dealing with. you know, we heard chief dan oates of the aurora pd say that they were dealing with jars of ammo, jars of liquid, possible mortars inside that apartment, along with wires and what he has never seen, ever before in his life. but you're going to get the special agent bomb the technicians from the fbi, from denver, and with the local law enforcement and technicians from arapahoe county, they're going to be out there this morning, again, assessing this situation, and i guess going with a plan of attack. you know, we're hearing that it's fairly sophisticated,
fairly complicated. but i'm hearing that the devices are not unbeatable. that the technicians are -- there's a good possibility that they'll be able to get in there today. they're going to also have the aurora fire department back there, just bcause there is a possibility of an incendiary device going off, and they want to take all the precautions necessary. >> i think, mike, a big question this morning is, if this guy did booby trap his apartment and went to such trouble to make it so complicated and so dangerous, why would he tell police when he was being questioned here in the movie theater parking lot, why would he tell them that he did that? because they said he was really out to hurt the first responders that showed up at his apartment? >> that's a great question. people have been asking me that all day today. is it possible that he might have said after law enforcement got there within a minute to a minute and a half and got them there on the scene, that he said, i go ahead and give up? we don't know exactly why he did that. because the way he was dressed in all the ballistic material he
had on, a helmet, leg guards, chest -- you know, a tactical vest, groin protector, throat protector, it looked like he was looking for a confrontation with police to me, as a former investigator, randi. but maybe he decided that he would just give up. but we are hearing that apparently there was a timer that set off this techno music, i think hopefully what he thought was going to happen, neighbors were going to call about loud music, first responders would come out, no answer, knock again, no answer again, and then maybe try the door and that would go ahead and set off that incendiary device inside. but we don't know what was going through that guy's head yesterday. >> yeah, that could have blown up the whole apartment building and the whole complex. but let me ask you this. put your investigator hat on for me. what are they looking for there, and in trying to blow up his apartment, might he have been trying to hide something? >> there's a good possibility, or he could be out to hurt first
responders. when you have jars of liquid, which are probably some kind of flammable liquid, when you have a lot of ammo, when you have these mortars which have been described to me, it looks like it's there to do some kind of damage. either to first responders, to that building. and possibly to something inside. but we don't know, also, what kind of evidence they got from his car. were there any kind of journals. was his computer in that car? we don't know. and we don't know exactly what was inside there. i think they're going to go ahead and put together their plan today. there's no rush. there's no rush. they took pictures. they know what they're dealing with now, and i think they're going to be dealing with it today. whether or not, you know, they have to use any kind of procedure inside that apartment, time will tell, as the agents go ahead and make entry into that apartment. >> well, they've certainly done a great job taking every precaution. you know, they've evacuated those buildings, they've let some people inside to get some personal belongings last night.
but mike brooks, thank you very much. we'll check back with you as well as activity develops at that apartment. and we are going to have much more from here, from aurora, colorado, this morning. we're looking at a community that is recovering once again from some devastating losses. but for now, i want to hand it pack to gary tuchman who is in atlanta with some other news. gary, good morning. >> good morning, randi. and just ahead, we go overseas as bulgarian authorities are searching for a second suspect in the bus terror bombing there. and we will continue our coverage from aurora, colorado, as police return to the suspect's apartment. they still can't get in because of the booby traps. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor.
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welcome back, everybody. i'm gary tuchman in atlanta. >> and good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye here in aurora, colorado, this morning. a community still recovering from devastating loss. right now the focus here in aurora is on the victims and the community. it is a time to remember those that this community has lost. the full list of names is expected as early as 10:00 a.m. eastern time. it's also a time here to heal. grief counseling centers are being set up to help people deal with the trauma of what took place here at the movie theater. and now i want to show you a picture. it comes from the adult sex site, adultfriendfinder. police believe that this photo is james holmes, the suspect in this horrific shooting. but investigators haven't confirmed it. sources did say, though, that holmes had died his hair red before the attack. now, much of the focus right now is also just down the road from this movie theater. and that's where police and the
atf have gathered. they are at james holmes' apartment building about four miles away from where i am. our poppy harlow has been there all morning, and poppy, i understand you have just had an extensive conversation with law enforcement. what have they told you? >> reporter: a number of interesting things, randi. let's start out with the unique nature of the devices inside the suspected shooter's apartment, which is right over my right shoulder here. what i've been told that any ensuing fire is a big concern. here's why. what they saw inside that from robot that took video yesterday, they saw jars of black powder, they saw ammunition, they saw liquid that they believed could be a liquid accelerant. what they told me is that he, the suspected shooter, allegedly placed other chemicals, attached to basically handmade bombs, ieds, to accelerate the damage that they would cause. i was told by a law enforcement official, this is unique. you usually don't see a situation like this. also interestingly, randi, law
enforcement told me they believe he has a level of expertise. they said this is not, quote, crude. this is someone who knew what they were doing. they are expecting about a hundred differently officials here today. they have eod, that is explosive ordinance and disposal officials, they have atf, which flew in bomb experts from out of state. they flew in chemists from washington, d.c., labs, i believe with the fbi. so they've flown in experts from across the country to deal with this. i can also tell you that that law enforcement official told me that they believe that there are at least 12 explosive devices, 12. so about a dozen, inside of that one apartment. the robots, randi, as you asked me earlier in the show, may go back in today or they may send personnel in. the robots may take samples. all they've been able to do so far, randi, is take video of what's in there. they may take samples. >> and poppy, what are they telling you in terms of the timing? there was some talk that they
might be able to detonate whatever was inside there today. is that still a possibility? >> reporter: it's a possibility. it's still a question if they will detonate it, if bomb, tactical crews will be able to disarm them. that would, obviously, be the ideal situation. aurora police department is saying they definitely want to go in the apartment today. they say it could be quick, it could take a few hours. they're not sure if they're going to send a robot back in. i will tell you, i witnessed two men, looked like officials in gray t-shirt walking into the apartment building about 20 minutes. so there are people going in, they're assessing the situation. what's also important is that they're reviewing the video from yesterday, again, deciding if they need more video to really assess this situation. it's expected to be very hot here today. they're expected to put on, you know, big hazmat suits, bomb suits that weigh many, many pounds. so they have extra officials here to swap out and get through this, all day long. but just the color that i was
given about a dozen devices in there, black powder, liquid accelerants. i mean, this is someone when knew what he was doing and according to this official, was trying to accelerate any damage that was sparked by these booby traps. what the official calls it is sort of victim-initiated booby traps for anyone trying to go in there. >> and a lot of people we spoke in that area last night were very concerned about how much damage this might do, if they did go ahead and detonate, at least what is inside that apartment. they still have those buildings evacuated, but have they given you any idea of how big of an explosion this might lead to? >> reporter: they have no idea, but it's not off the table, randi, to detonate, they just don't know sort of how big an explosion it could be. if they are able to disarm these devices. but we are, as i said to you last hour, pretty close, you know, we're within a few hundred feet and there are pedestrians on the sidewalk, cars going by.
obviously, if they were to detonate them, this would all be cleared out. but they just have no idea. because, again, those roberts haven't taken samples, they've only taken video. so until they do that, we don't know what the powder is, or if it is a liquid accelerant. they believe from their years of experience, though, that this is what that looks like, though. >> a tricky situation. poppy, thank you for getting that information for us this morning. hundreds of mourners gathered at a candlelight vigil overnight, just a few miles away from the scene of friday's massacre. 1,000 people consoled each other, hugging and crying during a very emotional memorial. candles were lit next to a growing pile of flowers. and many in this town are just learning of the loss of loved ones. we're slowly finding out who some of these victims are and putting faces to the names that we're getting just this morning. nick valencia's here with some
new information about the victims. nick, what have you been able to find out? >> cnn has been able to independently confirm four of the 12 people that were killed early friday in aurora, colorado, at the movie theater. just into cnn earlier this morning, matt mcquinn being listed among the deceased. his family, like many others, spending hours agonizing, only to find out that their loved one was deceased. he was at the movie with his girlfriend and her brother and died while trying to save his girlfriend, shielding her from those bullets. to make matters even worse for her, the hospital would not confirm his condition, because they are not related. i want you to take a look at this next photo, alex sullivan, who planned to celebrate his 27th birthday with a special midnight showing there of "the dark knight." he was also anticipating his first wedding anniversary celebration on sunday, with his wife, you see there. he's described by his uncle as a funny guy, witty, smart, with a big heart. and you can tell right there from those photos that he was definitely a loving man.
his family released a statement to cnn saying, the sullivan family lost a cherished member of their family today. alex was smart, funny and above all loved dearly by his friends and family. today -- which was yesterday -- was his 27th birthday. micayla medek, also being listed among the deceased. a 23-year-old woman described as loving and very connected to god. we have a picture of her as well. she was described by her family as being an independent girl. it took her family 19 hours to find out that she had died. many of those family members being kept in the dark about the circumstances and conditions of their loved ones. we heard from her aunt an emotional interview earlier today with gary tuchman. she spoke to us. now, jessica ghawi, a name that we've been hearing a lot over the course of the last 24 hours. she's become essentially the quintessential face of this shooting here. her brother, jordan, has been very active on social media, creating that #ripjessica.
if you're on twitter, you'll find out more information about her. she was not leg, initially, and then fatally shot in the head according to witnesses. she had just moved to denver from texas, randi, where she was trying to become a sports caster, an aspiring journalist who no doubt would have had a tremendous impact on our field. and ironically enough, she was in toronto last month when a mall shooting broke out there. she survived that attack. her mother earlier, yesterday, spoke to our affiliate in san antonio, giving an emotional interview about her daughter. >> i'll never have her to hug again or get a text message again or get a funny facebook picture. that's the hard part right now. just knowing those are things that i'm never going to get to experience again. i was blessed, only for 25 years, but i was blessed. >> now, cnn is continuing to make calls this morning, trying to independently confirm those names for our viewers. and just a reminder to our
viewers, the youngest victim being a 4-month-old baby that was treated and released. also included, yesterday, barbara starr, cnn pentagon correspondent, finding that four servicemen, in fact, two airmen and two sailors, one who's still unaccounted for, were also victims in that shooting. randi? >> nick valencia, and it's so sad, nick, to think about not only the loss, but how long so many of these families had to wait to find out what happened, what the fate of their loved ones was. nick valencia, thank you very much for that. suspected movie theater shooter james holmes had been stockpiling, it turns out, a deadly arsenal of guns, chemicals, and bombs, and many of the weapons were legal for him to possess. the details next when we return with much more live from aurora, colorado.
james holmes, the suspected lone gunman in the largest mass shooting in our country's history. police say the 24-year-old dressed head-to-toe in protective geared and sprayed colorado's century 16 theater with bullets and eventually surrendered without resistance. cnn legal contributor paul callan joining me live. at the heart of this massacre were the multiple guns found. three were left behind in the theater for authorities to find. in terms of the gun laws in colorado, what are they? i mean, how much of his stockpile was legal for him to possess? >> well, i've been taking a close look at colorado gun laws, and it's really kd of shocking. every weapon that he had appears to be totally legal. not only under colorado law, but under federal law. he had two glock semi-automatic pistols, he purchased them legally in local gun stores. he had an a-15 assault rifle,
totally legal for sale in colorado and under federal law. he had high-capacity ammunition that he purchased online, totally legal under both federal and state law. and he was also equipped with this somewhat bizarre equipment that normally you'd see soldiers or police officers wearing, armored equipment, to protect him from being shot himself, online purchase, totally legal, under existing law. >> so is there -- i mean, a question of, how much is too much? could he have just kept stockpiling and it would all have been legal? >> yes, he could have kept stockpiling. there's no limit on how much you can buy. at one point in time, we had a law that banned assault weapons. there was enormous political pressure in part brought by the nra, in part brought by individual american citizens, which by the way, i was shocked to find this out, randi. 47% of americans admit to
pollsters that they own guns themselves. so it's very, very hard to get restrictive gun legislation passed in this country. and that law, that ban on assault weapons, was allowed to expire in 2004. now, that might have prevented him from having that rifle that was used in the theater to shoot. with respect to the handguns, though, colorado is one of 38 "shall issue" states, meaning if you are not mentally ill and don't have the kind of criminal record that would ban you from owning a concealed weapon, they must issue the permit to you. so colorado has fairly friendly gun laws as compared to many states in the united states. >> and what's interesting, as i was looking into this a little bit yesterday, for some reporting i was doing for anderson cooper's show, i found that, in fact, the people here in colorado are -- the law enforcement are actually prohibited from creating any
kind of database where they track gun buyers and purchases being made. does that surprise you at all? because then they really wouldn't know if anybody is stockpiling or who that person is. >> well, i think you'll find law enforcement officials throughout the united states, despite the fact that they're heavily armed themselves, have a rather dim view of existing laws in the united states regarding the ability of everybody to carry weapons. without, you know, restrictions. only because from the standpoint of law enforcement and tracking criminals, they like to have this information. but, of course, gun enthusiasts, gun owners, the nra have always felt this was an invasion of privacy and restrictions like this violate the second amendment to the constitution. ironically, when you apply for a gun permit in denver, colorado, as easy as it is to get a gun in denver, you know what they say on the website? don't bring any weapons with you to the police station. so the police don't want you coming in armed when you apply for your gun.
>> paul callan, appreciate your time this morning and your research on the gun laws here in colorado. thank you very much. >> nice being with you, randi. take care. >> i will have much more live from aurora, colorado, coming up in the next few hours here on cnn. but for now, i'll hand it back over to gary tuchman in atlanta who has some other news for you this morning. gary, good morning again. >> good morning to you, randi. a tour bus packed with travelers and children comes under attack. a suicide bomber mercilessly blew it up. but did he have help? the investigation has now widened.
for those responsible for wednesday's deadly tour bus bombing. cnn's atika shubert is in bulgaria and joins us now. atika, thank for joining us and police think now a second suspect may be involved? >> reporter: well, it's possible. bulgarian police have been going to hotels in that seaside town and have been showing them a composite compiled from witness' descriptions, but there's still some confusion, because they have not identified the suspected bomber himself. we have that airport security video that seems to show a man with long air wandering around the terminal, about an hour before the attack, but the description from other eyewitnesss is very different than what we see in that video footage, and that's why according to one high-level source at the interior of ministry, they believe there could be a second suspect, and that's why the police are now
looking around with this photo. >> so we're not seeing any video of a second suspect, there's just a belief that there's a second suspect? >> reporter: at this point, yes. basically the problem is that the suspected mber has not been identified yet. they have fingerprints and dna, but they haven't been able to identify him. in the meantime, they have this other set of descriptions of another man, so what they're trying to see is, is it the same person as the suspected bomber, or is there in fact a second suspect that's still out there. >> it's a little confusing, this first guy with the long hair, he had a driver's license from the u.s. state of michigan. they don't think the guy's from michigan, right? they think it was a fake license? >> no, the fbi has said now that license is fake. however, this other -- if there is this other second suspect, that man appeared to have tried to rent a car with another form of i.d.
and this is the lead that investigators are now looking into to decide whether or not this is a person who tried to help by renting a car. >> atika shubert, thank you very much. let's hope they catch these guys. the death toll continues to ramp up in the nation of syria. opposition activists say 45 people have been killed in fighting across the country just toda meanwhile, tanks, mortars, and artillery ar pounding parts of the capital city of damascus. the city is still reeling after more than 124 people were killed there yesterday. nearly 300 died across the country yesterday. the whereabouts of syrian president bashar al assad remain unknown at this hour. three of his top military officials, including his brother-in-law, were killed when a bomb struck national security headquarters in the damascus last week. three more of his generals have now defected to turkey. at the top of the hour, we'll be going back to aurora,
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among those new details are the names of some of the victims. take a look here. this is 23-year-old micayla medek. it took her family 19 hours to learn that she had died in the shooting. the full list of names is expected to be out as early as 10:00 a.m. eastern time this mornin morning. in all, 12 people were killed, 58 injured. as many as 11 of those people are in kill condition this morning. and now, take a look at this. i want to show you another picture. it comes from the adult sex website, adultfriendfinder. police believe that this photo is james holmes, the suspect in this shooting, but investigators haven't been able to confirm it yet. sources did say that holmes had dyed his hair red before the attack. our poppy harlow is at james holmes' apartment building for us this morning. and poppy, you spoke just a short time ago with law enforcement, that are back on the scene there. what have they told you now about what they have found inside that apartment? >> reporter: randi, a lot of new
details. and this comes from a law enforcement official here on site, right at holmes' apartment, as you see behind me, here in aurora. what the official told me is that the devices in the apartment are what he calls victimnitiated devices. this means that booby traps would set them off. he described them as being, quote, nooenunique, that you noy don't see this. he didn't think any timers were attached to any of the explosive devices. that is very good news. investigators believe from the robots that they have sent inside, randi, and the video that those robots have taken that there are at least a dozen explosive devices. robots may go in again today to gather more video, possibly some sampling of the devices. but what really stood out to me, i am told by this law enforcement official that they believe that these devices were rigged with things that would accelerate the damage, if they were detonated. black powder.
what they believe to be a liquid accelerant. i was told by them that he placed other chemicals to enhance the fire or the thermal effect, if these ieds went off. and that's the big concern. what also stood out to me is that i was told that these were set up, quote, a level of expertise. that this was not, quote, crude, as you often see in a situation like this. that, obviously, there was knowledge putting this together and a lot of time and energy and effort and some expertise put into this t, randi. >> and it seems as though, poppy, the way he apparently had his apartment rigged, that he was targeting the first responders. those who would show up first on the scene there. >> reporter: that is exactly right. because as that law enforcement official told me, these were victim-rigged devices. meaning, booby traps. that they would be set off by someone going in, not by a timer, but rather by someone, i don't know if it's stepping on something, because we don't have
any video to the public inside there, we haven't been there, but, yes, that they were rigged for that. interestingly, we wouldn't have known, randi, about all of this set up in the apartment, had it not been for the suspected shooter telling police officers when they arrested him in the parking lot of the movie theater that, indeed, he had explosives in his apartment. i'll tell you, because of the magnitude of this, randi, chemist were flown in from washington, d.c. the atf brought in some of their bomb techs from out of state. there are also explosive ordinance and disposal officials on site, randi. so experts from across the country here to assess the situation. unclear if they are going to send more robots in or if they are going to go in with men and women in bomb suits today. could be a few hours, could be longer than that. >> right. and the timing, of course, is critical. of course they want to get in there, but they have to take such precautions, right? they've already evacuated the buildings, but they'll have to
shut down that area as well. >> reporter: i mean, absolutely. i keep reiterating, i'm surprised that we're this close. obviously, there's no timer, so they feel that we're safe at this point. we're just a few hundred feet away. if they were to detonate something, they're not going to know the magnitude of what that explosion would be. they would, i assume, clear out this entire area, close this road down. you know, we've got some residences, a lot of apartment buildings nearby, a lot have been evacuated. but the 7-eleven where we went down the road this morning is open and operating. so obviously it would be a dramatic shift here. but i don't think they're at that point yet. they're assessing. i've seen two men so far go inside the building, but we have not seen anywhere gear up in bomb suits yet. i think they may take more video, randi, to take a look and get all of the specifics down before they decide how to act. >> poppy harlow, thank you for getting that information for us. we'll continue to update our folks at home on the scene there at the apartment building throughout the morning. let me bring in now jim spellman.
he's been here at the theater along with many folks overnight. first your take, jim. i mean, you live here. tell me what your sense is of how the community is dealing with this. >> reporter: people made a makeshift memorial, and they made a big sign that said, "gone, not forgotten." and i think a lot of people are trying to stay focused on the victims, but you can't help but try to make sense of what was going on, allegedly, with this person. hearing all that detail from poppy, clearly, there were two lives going on. he was studying neuroscience for a ph.d. i spoke with a man who had drank beer with him at the neighborhood bar just on tuesday. and said he was a regular guy, kind of a nerdy guy, hung up, talked about sports, the normal stuff. but then in his apartment, he's rigging up these bombs over the last 60 days, buying these handguns, buying these weapons and buying this ammunition. it's so incongruence, this the bright student, called among the
brightest of the bright at the university of california. >> and a recluse too, kept to himself. >> a little bit odd of a grad student, living in a somewhat rundown neighborhood. people tell me so much stuff that doesn't add up here. people are trying to assess everything, like everybody is, but knowing that here in the community, they're going to have to try to find a way to move through it and move on. i think this vigil they're putting together for sunday night will really help, a chance for everybody to come together and be a community again. >> and this is a community that's done it before, sadly. they know how to pull it together. >> after columbine, this community really came together and i think they've really tried to turn that into a positive and draw strength and energy from it. when every year when the anniversary comes, it's almost more of a celebration than it is a mourning, you know? and i think that people will tap into that same strength again. unfortunately, you're never going to have answers to why, why us here again?
why us? why did this happen? but they can draw strength from each other. >> what about the weight for these families? you've had a chance to speak with some of them? some of them waited 19 hours. the bodies weren't removed from the theater until late yesterday evening. >> and some families were going from hospital to hospital, just trying to find out. but the police, the coroners, such a chaotic scene inside the theater to go through and process everything and make sure they were making correct identifications. i know they worked as fast as they could, while trying to be sure they build the case they need to build. we should know within the next hour all of the names. all the families have now been notified. >> 10:00 a.m. eastern we should get that list. jim spellman, thanks so much. so the suspect's in custody, of course, we know that, but he hasn't been formally charged. i'm going to talk with our law enforcement analyst, mike brooks, about the next steps in this investigation when we return live from aurora, colorado.
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more than 50 people were hit with bullets during friday's massacre. and we have with us one of the nurses who is treating some of these patients, was actually at the hospital as these patients came in. bill voss is joining us now. good morning to you. first describe some of the injuries you saw as the patients came to the medical center yesterday. >> as a level 2 trauma center, we frequently see people who are victims of violence. this is a little more than normal. we saw people with shrapnel wounds, gunshot wounds to the arms, legs, chest, head things like that. >> head? >> things like that. >> and was it expected? >> it wasn't expected, it was very calm and quiet, everybody came in, did exactly what they were supposed to do. we were able to get additional help very quickly, patients were able to get to the operating room very quickly, and i was
very impressed with how well it ran. >> how critical or how many of the patients were critical? >> of the ones we saw, i believe we admitted four that were in critical condition. >> and there were some reports there was one victim as young as 4 months hold? how young were you seeing? >> the youngest we saw was about 17 years of age. i think the oldest was in their mid- to upper 20s. >> and types of injuries, how do you treat them? >> generally, it's stabilization. stabilize their airway, control the bleeding, get something for pain. determine who needed to go to the operating room first. our trauma surgeon, when was in house started trying to sort patients out and decided who needed to go immediately to the operating room. she took the first patient toerthe operating room and additional trauma surgeons decided who needed to be next and so on. >> how coherent were they? were they able to speak? >> there were several patients who are awake and talking, they were still in shock about what
was going on, so they would tell little pieces of the puzzle, but just so in shock as to what happened. >> what do you say to them? how do you as a nurse try to calm them from something so tragic? >> the first key is to let them get it out, talk to them. usually we kind of talk to them and tell them we're there to help them, what can we , and they'll start talking and allow them to talk as much as they want to get it off their chest. >> wer there family members there as well trying to find their loved ones? so many of them were so frantic trying to figure out what happened. >> we had lots of family members looking for family, some we had, some we did not. the ones we didn't have, we were able to refer them to the appropriate place if we knew. we were also able to refer them back to the police if we didn't know where they were. >> and how are those patients doing today at your hospital? are they in the clear? >> there are some who are still very injured and who will require some time in the hospital. we were able to discharge several. but we still, i believe, have six or seven who are still patients currently. >> well, listen, your heroic
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welcome back to "cnn saturday morning." as we said, we are learning the names of the victims this morning. we should have full list of names from this shooting here in aurora, colorado, about 10:00 a.m. eastern time. nick valencia joining me now from atlanta, who has more information on another victim. good morning, nick. >> good morning, randi. we just got off the phone with the father of another victim, this being the fifth that cnn can independently confirm. we spoke to the father of john thomas larimer. he was telling us that his son was among the 10 killed in that theater shooting. they said the family got notification of john's death around midnight. they tell us his son was in the navy. he had not yet seen combat. informs, this was his first posting outside of denver, colorado. and according to the father, his family is working on putting together a statement. we'll hopefully have that next
hour. but cnn now independently confirming a fifth name of the 12 killed early friday in the auro aurora, colorado, theater shooting, that being john thomas larimer, servicemen, one of the victims there in that deadly shooting. randi? >> another terrible loss and such a difficult time for these famil families, our hearts certainly go out to them. i will be back with much more here from aurora, colorado. for now i'll hand it back to gary tuchman who has some other news from atlanta. gary? searching for answers and suspects in a fatal bus bombing. the suspected bomber was caught on surveillance camera right before the attack. but did he have an accomplice who got away? that's coming up next. to prove how great the fit is even while playing pro football. the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. get a free sample and try one on for yourself. your doctor will say get smart about your weight.
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