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wade michael page appeared, took out a nine millimeter pistol and opened fire. this is a facebook picture of him. yes, that is a swastika of him. tonight the latest on efforts to pin down any and all hate group connections he may have had. earlier today, president obama reacted to that possibility. >> i think the american people immediately recoil against those kinds of attitudes. and i think it will be very important for us to reaffirm once again that in this country regardless of what we look like, where we come from, who we worship, we are all one people. and we look after one another, and we respect one another.
>> mitt romney called the shooting a tragedy that should never befall any house of worship. nationwide, there's been increased security at many sikh semples. we'll talk to local leaders that are worried that this may happen across the nation. as always, focus as much as we can on who the victims were. what their lives were like. who the heroes are. who risked everything to save their lives. we begin, though, at the beginning. sunday morning, worshippers are reading scripture, cooking food and preparing for a day of peaceful prayer. at approximately 10:25 the peace is shattered. >> reports of gunshots, a bald male with glasses may have shot someone sikh temple. >> the gunman basically came into the parking lot shooting. he shot people who were standing
out in front. entered the temple and opened fire in the opening room, and then went into the religious room and opened fire there. >> minutes later, the shooter moves into the temple. terrified, some hid behind locked doors, others rushed to protect their loved ones. the temple's leader tries to tackle and stab the shooter. but is shot and later dies. >> some of the ladies who were making food for the congregation in the kitchen overheard some gunshots and some of them went down to the basement where their kids were playing to protect their kids. >> officers begin arriving on the scene. >> someone is walking on the drive way toward me. i heard shots, can you confirm that? >> the gunman exits the temple and ambushes the officer. can you hear gunshots on the
call. >> man with a gun. white t-shirt. >> he was shot between eight and nine times during the shooting. a lot of extremity shots. shot in the neck, the cheek area. >> despite a barrage of gunfire, murphy survives and remains in critical condition. the gunman has no intention of being arrested. >> at that point we began to give him commands as far as dropping his weapon and putting his hands up. after giving commands to the individual, he did fire. one of our vehicles took some rounds through the windshield. another one also took some rounds. one of the officers returned fire with his squad rifle putting the down. >> he's not moving.
>> we have one officer shot. >> the alleged gunman. a 40-year army veteran is shot dead. he kills six people, sending three to the hospital in critical condition, and leaving a peaceful religious community wondering why. that, of course, is now the question for state, local and federal authorities. ted rowlands has more on the investigation. what have you learned? >> the gun was purchased legally at a local shop called the shooter's shop, on july 28th. he had to wait until july 30th to pick it up. wisconsin has a two-day waiting period. there was nothing illegal about this purchase. this is a guy without a record who just bought a gun. >> the fbi is leading this investigation, where are they looking? >> they're talking to everyone
who has had contact with him. we saw video of -- in north carolina where they looked at a home there, where he once stayed with a bandmate. the home had confederate flags around it, they're looking for everything. they talked to an ex-girlfriend, neighbors, we talked to some of those neighbors and trying to get a full picture who have this person is. >> you're talking about a band, this is called white power music. there have been reports about a girlfriend. was he currently seeing someone? >> what we've been able to determine is that he had just broken up with a girlfriend or she had just broken up with him. we talked to a couple neighbors who lived downstairs an across the hall from him and his girlfriend. he was very stand offish. once he came into the picture the girlfriend changed. take a listen. >> like a recluse almost, he didn't talk to us. i would say hi and he'd go -- that's it.
>> he was running the show. she wasn't friendly any more. it was like she wasn't allowed to talk to anybody any more. >> south milwaukee police did talk to that ex-girlfriend. she was completely cooperative, and according to a source, she had no idea that something like this was coming. >> appreciate that reporting. local law enforcement was first on the scene yesterday. >> in the past 36 hours or so, oak creek's police chief has comforted victims and been the public face of this tragedy. he's joining me now. appreciate you being with us. how is your officer tonight? >> i just visited with him a short time ago. he can give a thumbs up, smile.
>> he was shot numerous times? >> nine times. >> nine times? >> most of them are extremity shots. one serious wound. not going to get into the dynamics of that. he's got a long road ahead of him. >> where as far as you're concerned, where does this investigation stand? what are you looking at? >> we're tightening up the fbi along with our detectives, we're working together. and we've moved the command post down to fbi headquarters. we're getting leads upon leads. we're cross-checking phone numbers, records. we want to leave no stone unturned. there's been a lot of talk about white supremacist. there's a lot of information out there. i don't want to use that term until we want to put that out there for sure. that's not something i can take back. we put that term out there, we don't want to use that lightly. we want to make sure we have everything in place before we use that term. could it be something else?
possibly. we need to check everything. >> there had been talk about a possible person of interest. it seems that person has been eliminated, talked to. are you confident this person worked alone? >> the person of interest, they have been identified and they are being followed up with. i can't say they've been eliminated. as far as our indications, this individual is by himself. we have nothing else to indicate he was with anybody else or in addition was going on. the officers at the scene, indications that he was a lone shooter. >> are you any closer to understanding motive? >> we're starting to eliminate more things and narrow down what it might be. there's a few things we have to eliminate before we can say what the motive was. >> have there been other incidences against the sikh community to your knowledge? >> no, not here. we work with them, we've never
had issues with them. no problems at all. >> as far as you know, they haven't had problems with people attacking them? >> no, no, we have no red flags, no complaints, no calls, anything like that. >> how long -- let me ask you, and you may not be able to answer this or may not be able to say. is it your belief this person did not want to be taken? >> you know, all i can -- i don't want to fill in blanks without -- we're going to have video. we have a lot of video at the scene -- >> there's video outside the temple. >> that has been recovered, it's going to give us a good explanation of what happened. by the actions of what our officers said, he didn't flee. he engaged the officers. >> our best to the officer who's been injured and his family. thank you for talking to us. i know it's been a long 24 hours for you. let us know what you think, we're on facebook, can you follow me on twitter @andersoncooper.
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this photo is from a facebook page that's since been taken down. what we know right now is this man was once in the army but was discharged in 1998. even during his time in the army, a buddy says he would talk about a racial holy war 37 later, the suspect would become a part of a band. according to southern poverty law center, back in 2000, the suspect tried to buy some sort of products from the neo-nazi national alliance which the center says at the time was the country's most important hate group. drew griffin joins me now live with the latest on what he has been able to find out. drew, what have you been learning? >> anderson, this guy was really out front in this white power music industry. you'd almost call him a mini celebrity. he was involved with some of the bigger bands in the year 2000 up to 2005. that's when he started his own
band, end apathy. they played at major -- i say that somewhat facetiously, major festivals of these white hate groups like the hammer skins and some of these other groups. venues where they would all get together. a group of bands and play their hate-filled music. devin bergart is an author who also tracks these hate groups. and he looks at this industry as not only a multimillion-dollar industry with hundreds of bands, anderson, but as a major outreach now for this white power movement. >> these bands are known for their recruiting and for bringing young people into t movement. they play festivals, shows and gigs around the country which are specifically designed to bring in new young people and indoctrinate them into the white nationalist movement. >> and he was very much a part of that, he being the suspect, this fellow, page. we know that -- from his website, he talked openly about major accomplishments in his life, anderson.
one of his major accomplishments was starting this band, end apathy. >> i remember doing some reporting on neo-nazi white supremacist bands in the united states back in the late '90s and i actually spent some time with some of these bands and band members. there was a culture of violence within these groups at these shows. was he himself, the suspect, violent? >> you know, the groups that have been tracking him, you mentioned southern poverty law center and the anti-defamation league, really had not seen him attached to violence, other than his hate-filled lyrics. he really doesn't have a major criminal record whatsoever. that's why he was able to pick up that gun that ted rowland was talking about. drunk driving back in lorado. a minor mischief thing back in texas. but nothing violent. and we do know he took his lyrics very seriously. he gave an interview to his quote/unquote record label back in 2010. this is what he said about writing his lyrics. he said the topics vary from
sociological issues, religion, and how the value of human life has been degraded by being sub missive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are sub jew indicated to. you know what they're all about. they don't like what they call the delusion or the dilution of the white race. anybody who doesn't fit into their mold. and since the alliance you talked about has collapsed under law enforcement pressure, it's this white power music that has become the focal point of this kind of hate group 37 >> and, drew, obviously, there's a lot we still don't know at this point. is it known if he was currently with any particular group or was he kind of a lone wolf? do we have any evidence either way? >> you know, the last reference i can find to end apathy was that 2010 interview that i
quoted from his record label. the record that they recorded for that label was still being sold on that website. although the website has taken down. i can't see them appearing anywhere. i think they appeared at a festival back in 2011. it was the st. patrick's day festival down in florida. that's the last time i saw them, you know, being anywhere and playing. so i really don't know the answer to that. ted also talked about how the fbi was looking at his former band mate's home back in north carolina. gives you some indication this group, if it was indeed a group, maybe has split or taken some kind of a hiatus. >> yes, it will be interesting to see. i stopped following white power music as a reporter back in the late '90s. there was a group at the time called revolution records which had kind of tried to put a slick and glossy veneer on a lot of these white power bands.
i'm not sure if they're still in existence or what the status of this sub culture is. as you said, that group, the national alliance, they've really -- which at one point was powerful within the white supremacist movement in the united states. they've really gone by the wayside, right? >> that's right. and these groups nowadays, because law enforcement is so good at rooting them out and basically knocking them out, you'll see a lot of these hate groups, like i mentioned the hammer skins, they say they are leaderless. they are a leaderless organization. there's a reason for that. nobody wants to be the leaders of these groups because they become the target of law enforcement investigations. and that's why these festivals that take place, these music festivals that take place, are very secretive. they will advertise, we're going to have a festival in such and such a town. go there on such and such a date, and in the morning, you can call this number and we'll tell where you it is. a lot of times you'll see photos of these festivals. all the pictures of the people are blurred out.
which is why it's so interesting we have these out front pictures of wade page in his nazi flags and nazi regalia so open. i really believe -- although we can't ask him now because he's dead -- i really believe he believed him to be somewhat of a celebrity in this movement, industry, whatever you want to call it. but, again, it's all centered around white power music, which if you haven't listened to it, take the worst punk rock, head banging music you can find, put some really nasty, hate-filled music, lyrics to it, and basically that's what you have. it all sounds the same. >> sounds like he had delusions of grandeur on some level. drew, appreciate the reporting. t.j.lyden is a former skinhead, he's the author of "skinhead confessions from hate to hope." t.j. joins me now on the phone. this suspect was in a band in the thick at one point of the
white supremacist music scene. explain the importance of music as a tool in recruitment. >> it's a major tool in the recruitment field. you think about if i give a kid a piece of paper to read, he might read it once, maybe twice max. if i give him a music cd, he will listen to that thing hundreds and hundreds of times. that song is stuck in his head. that's propaganda you cannot get rid of. >> and that's who the target of a lot of the music is, it's kids? >> it is. there's a thing a few years back called project schoolyard. they were going after kids in junior high, high school. i mean, even one guy a few years back said he wouldn't have a problem going after kids as young as 8 or 9. >> the alleged shooter had a lot of tattoos. you say they're very important in white supremacist culture. how so? >> well, tattoos are everything in the white supremacist culture. i looked at one of his tattoos online.
it had the word 14. which is an acronym for one of the white supremacy logos. >> also, 88 i've seen has some significance. >> 88 is their heil hitler. 88th of the alphabet. >> you say acting as a lone wolf is a tactic in the modern day supremacist movement. >> it is. lone wolf tactic has been around for a while. there's a point system for the lone wolf. and they love to use that tactic. it eliminates anybody else getting in trouble. a larger group of people won't go to prison or go to jail. >> i'm also curious, t.j., about your personal story, and how you were able to go from at one point, you know, believing these hate-filled messages and to a point where you now are actively working against it.
can you explain a little bit about how you got out of it? >> okay, i'm sorry, can you repeat that? >> yeah, i'm curious about how you basically changed your mind. i mean, you were once involved in the white supremacist movement. you were a skin head, you believed these things, and you evolved. how did you change your mind? >> for me, i was lucky. my kid showed me that my hatred was infecting them at a very young age. i saw how it was affecting my family and my youngest children. for me, i got lucky. what i do now is i work with people all over the united states, actually throughout the world now, helping them realize how to get out. but for me it was mostly my family. my kids. if it wasn't for them, i'd probably be in prison for the rest of my life. >> we don't know what the suspect knew about this temple. we don't even know if he had any idea of who the people were that he allegedly were trying to kill.
i mean, do these people in this movement actually study this? do they actually study different religions? do they actually, you know -- do they have a basis of what they're spouting? >> well, for them, religion is their skin color. they probably had no idea sikhs -- he may have thought it was -- he saw the word temple. he may have thought it was a jewish institution. a muslim mosque. i don't think he may have thought that through. we'll never know, in fact, because he's dead. no, to them race is a religion. they very rarely have anything to do with any formal religion. nor do they study it. >> t.j., i appreciate you being on with us tonight. there's obviously still a lot we don't know at this hour. we're trying to learn as much as we can. appreciate you talking to us. when we come back, we're going to honor the victims and the survivors and remember the lives they lived, not just how they ended their lives. we'll be right back. [ annie ] this is the story of a girl named annie
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welcome back. we're live in oak creek, wisconsin. seven people died in oak creek including the gunman. six lives are worth remembering tonight. in a moment you'll hear a wife and a son talk about the man they so deeply respected. satwant singh kaleka, the president of the temple. he was mortally wounded after struggling with the killer trying to slow the killer down, buying time for others to flee or to hide. he was 65 years old. suveg singh was the oldest victim. his granddaughter says his attended temple daily. relatives say he loved to talk. we don't yet know much about three other victims.
we at this point only know their names and ages. sita and renjit singh, ages 41 and 49. and parmijit, the only woman killed. prakash singh 39 worked as a minister at the temple. according to "the milwaukee journal sentinel," in june, he returned from india to bring his wife back to live. says a friend, a noble soul. we hope in the week ahead to learn more about them. i spoke earlier tonight and spent some time with the temple president's wife and his son. outside the home of satwant singh kaleka, an american flag flies at half staff. his son and wife are still try to make sense of what happened. what do you know now happened to your father? >> i have people that i used to work with that called me to tell me that what he did in that
temple, in that guawara that day, saved so many lives and saved so many people. >> you were told he tried to stop the gunman? >> yes. i was told by several fbi agents that the blood trails and the evidence that are inside, it's blood evidence that shows a battle had ensued. and the knife next to his body had blood on it. then blood trails leading to wherever that battle of blood was, one towards the kitchen, one towards the bedroom of my dad laid to rest. >> since i start closing the door, my kitchen door. meantime, he came in the kitchen. he shot over there. then two ladies got shot in the leg. like on the feet. then i grabbed everybody, say run, run, run to the pantry. then after one minute, we saw his -- shot on the other side. >> there were more shots? >> more shots.
big, big shots. then it's like four, five minutes after that, shots again. >> so it went on for some time. >> yeah, it went on for some time. then after that, it was quiet. >> that flag outside, my dad put that flag outside when we first bought a house, our first house. you know, we lived in little apartments. we were pretty poor. this was our first house. >> that's one of the first things he did? >> one of the first things he did. we came home from high school. we were laughing. like, dad, that's going to be an eyesore. you have an elementary school sized flag in your front yard. >> why was that so important to him? >> he said, look down the street, do you see any other american flags? he said, because we came here and it's been a land of opportunity for us -- >> in order to feel close to the american friends, you know?
>> and a form of protection. >> a form of protection? >> he said it, he goes, look, i don't wa anybody doing anything to our house. as a form of protection, we'll put the flag up. also, to me, personally, his life was like this. he lived the american dream. when you talk about somebody who came over with a couple hundred dollars in their pocket and worked 18 hours a day as an immigrant -- and we were all immigrants. we all immigrated together in '82. i mean, we watched him. we were five years old going to the gas station with him. and watching him work in some of the worst neighborhoods. here's what i would love for them to know. i would love for them to know that he lived his life with the principles that he knew and he was taught at a young age. and it made him highly successful in america. like, if you do the hard work, if you live by truth and honesty and tell people your feelings and you are open to communication, you socialize and
do all these things, it's going to lead to a good life. he has beautiful children. he has beautiful grandchildren. he has a great wife that will sit by with him through anything, through thick and thin. his community loves him. hundreds of people will show up at his funeral. and that's a good life. i guess the one message to get across simply is that as an american society who is a steward for the whole world, we have to understand every culture that we touch. and sikhs are not a small culture. they're like the fifth largest religion in the world. so for somebody not to know the difference or not to understand our culture and convey peace and tranquility back to us when we do it to them, you know, it's amazing to think that can still happen in today's world. >> so you hope these people come to understand sikhs more and understand their contributions and understand who you are. >> and i'll take it one step further.
i hope the american soety lets go of its criminal violence and violence in america and its hatred and this amazingly repugnant descent as a human civilization into this archaic world. i hope we can traverse and come up and become more civilized. >> the family of one of the six people killed inside that temple. i've gotten a couple -- by the way, a couple of tweets, saying we should let people grieve in peace and not be bothering them for interviews. i absolutely agree with that. i know what it's like to have cameras pointed in your face when you're grieving and it's not a pleasant thing. we only go where we're asked. many family members want you to know about their loved one whose life was cut short. they want you to know their story. they want you to know who they were. they don't want you to just know the name. they want you to know how they lived their life, not just how they died. we go where we're invited. i frankly feel privileged to be invited into their home today to be able to tell you a little bit about one of the people who died
yesterday. a fund-raising website has been set up to help the families of the less fortunate victims of the shooting. to donate you can go to a website called wearesikhs.com. s-i-k-h-s. wearesikhs.com. call the bank at 414-761-1610. we'll put that on our website, ac360.com. coming up, the 911 recordings. and what they veal about the heroic police officer who's recovering from gunshot wounds tonight. >> ambulance up. subject down, officer's down. subject down. i need an ambulance. >> we have one officer shot. so we invented a warning
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six members of their temple shot dead on a summer sunday. as we told you, the detail also are horrific. amid the terror and chaos, there were also heroic acts that no doubt kept the death toll from being higher. the police officers who responded so quickly it the one dramatic example, so selflessly. here's randi kaye. >> squad, i'm taking report of an altercation sikh temple, 7512 south howell. there's a lot of noise. i'm unable to get much info. but there's a fight and now it's >> reporter: minutes after the
suspect opened fire, oak creek police lieutenant brian murphy was on the scene. the first officer to arrive. he immediately began tending to one of the victims on the ground in the parking lot. but before he knew it, the suspected shooter ambushed him. >> the individual walked around either the front of the squad or that area and was just on top of him. he was kind of down, in a fashion, down, and he took rounds from a person standing up. >> reporter: oak creek police chief john edwards says lieutenant murphy was shot eight or nine times. help was wearing a bulletproof vest. but a bullet hit him near the neck and throat. luckily, most of the bullets passed through him, hitting only flesh, no critical arteries. while officer murphy lay bleeding the other officers tried to secure the scene, unaware one of their own had been shot. at one point, the officers tried to reach lieutenant murphy on the radio, telling him they heard gun shots. asking him to confirm. they heard nothing back. in his 21 years on the force, lieutenant murphy had never been shot before.
the 51-year-old officer was recently married and has two stepchildren. he also has a daughter who lives in korea so it took some time to notify her about what happened. with the suspect still firing but in sight, other officers fulled out their rifles and took the fight to him. just as the chief says they're trained to do. the suspect shot out a patrol car windshield but after that was shot and killed by one of the officers. the officer who took the suspect down is also a family man with a daughter. he's a trained marksman. similar to a sniper in the military. he's a 31-year veteran of the force who teaches his sniper skills at both the u.s. state department and the fbi. the suspect was dead. but where was lieutenant murphy? his fellow officers weren't sure. so they did what they call a par check. calling out individual badge numbers over the radio to make sure each officer is okay. >> in this case, they went through everybody and they got responses. when they didn't get a response from lieutenant murphy who's badge number 62 they called for
him. they said 62 par check. an officer said, we don't have one from 62, we need to find him. >> ambulance up, suspect down, officer's down! i need ambulance -- >> we have one officer shot. >> franklin dispatch, all squad, 7512 south howell avenue. subject with a gun, balding, white t-shirt, officer down. >> reporter: when they did find lieutenant murphy, they waved them off. the chief says murphy was able to speak and told the others, quote, leave me alone. he wanted the other officers to hurry up inside to save the other victims. >> there's no doubt in my mind that the heroic actions of our police officers prevented an even greater tragedy. >> that's remarkable that he told police to go and deal with other people to leave him alone. we talked to the police chief a little bit earlier tonight. he said he's doing okay. what else are you hearing? >> he's not talking but he is much more stable. he had a couple of surgeries
late yesterday. then another surgery at 2:30 this morning. he was called in for. his family's by his side. he seems alert. he's aware. the fellow officers were there till 4:00 this morning. just showing -- letting him know they're there and supporting him. >> the other thing the police chief said, which i hadn't thought about, there are cameras outside, surveillance video. there will be video. we'll see what happened. and how this guy ended up getting shot. >> that's going to be critical. because if they can see what happened. we understand from the chief, that the officer who did shoot him, the second officer who took him down. they were all yelling to him to put his weapon down. they were warning him, giving him commands which they say he ignored. he ended up firing on them, shooting out the one windshield of the police car and they took him down. it will be interesting to see what that video shows. >> the president of the temple who was fatally shot in the attack had recently met with a state lawmaker to talk about an
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>> he tried to tackle the gunman. you know, in the process, suffered the fatal gunshot wound. but he really did everything he could. i believe that to my very core. >> wisconsin state representative josh zepnik was friends with the president of the temple. many members of the sikh community are among his constituents. you'd actually talked with the temple president about concerns about violence against sikhs. not just here but also nationwide. >> it is a very difficult time right now, anderson. mr. kaleka was a great friend. a person with a gentle soul. a generous heart. there have been a number of cases where people have -- in the sikh community have reached out to law enforcement, to public officials, because of what they felt would be things that -- actions or wrongdoings or whatnot because of their
appearance. where they felt like they were a target. in some cases, gas station owners or taxicab drivers are dealing with people in a tough neighborhood. so you've got that element as well. and it's -- >> mr. kaleka had been at one point pistol whipped years ago when he was at a gas station working there. i was talking to his son who said many people in the sikh community don't even report minor instances which are still very horrible of people saying things to them, passing them in the car, flipping them off or whatever. >> sure, robberies at gas stations. you know, we had a rioting and looting situation last year, the fourth of july where a sikh indian gas station owners attacked. i've been to several funerals myself of young men who were killed while they were work at the middle of the night at a 24-hour gas station. and unfortunately, in today's tough times, what i would say we live in this culture where
violence is glorified and unfortunately is way too common. people who look different or whatnot become the target of racial or ethnic hatred. in the case of sikh indians, because of the -- especially the men with longer beards and wearing the turban, people mistakenly confuse with what they see on television, radical -- >> that's one of the things that mr. kaleka's son that he hopes -- not that anything good can come out of this, but he hopes that people, a, learn more about sikhs in the united states, and also just kind of have more understanding of one another. whether it's sikh or muslim or whatever the religion. >> frankly, as broad as that stroke is, that is exactly how we're going to move forward and rebuild. because we're going to have a lot of outreach to do to educate folks in the milwaukee area as well as the entire country about
the positive contributions of the sikh community. they're a very peaceful and nonviolent religion. a lot of them coming to the united states to escape violence and oppression. and i say, you know, much like many others have been in the last 24-plus hours, today we are all american sikhs. and if people would learn more about the many positive contributions, hard-working people, tight extended families. very involved in the community. helping those who are less fortunate in their own area as well as people who are different from them and wanting to understand other faiths. >> it does sound sort of kumbaya but i really believe diversity is our strength as a nation. there's a report that a mosque in joplin has been burned for the second time. and this attack yesterday. >> very disturbing. this is not the america that i know or want. and -- >> and to go to mr. kaleka's
house today. the american flag is one of the first things he put outside his house. he did it both as protection but also he wanted to be part of that american dream. >> huge amount of pride to be here in america and to be positive contributors and to be part of the diverse american fabric you talked about. we all come from different religious and racial backgrounds, economic backgrounds. it doesn't surprise me that as sad and tragic as it is that he spent his final minutes in life trying to stop this and protect his congregation. that is exactly the kind of human being he was. if we all could learn more from mr. kaleka, we would be better americans and have a safer society. >> his son just said the funerals are going to be on friday? >> yes. >> for the six people? >> yes. >> there are some needs for some of the families to raise money for the funerals. there's a website, weareallsikhs.com, i think it is. >> yes. >> we'll put it on our website.
weareallsikhs.com. thank you for talking to us representative zepnik. isha joins us. >> syria's prime minister is now the highest official to leave the regime. he effected sources say, but state television say he was dismissed. this video shows a bomb falling on a residential neighborhood in homs. at least 161 people were killed across the country today. a mosque has burned to the ground in joplin, missouri. it was the second fire this summer at the site. worshippers suspect arson, they're calling it a hate crime, investigators haven't determined the cause. people accused of stealing $400,000 over three years. drivers are charged $15 an hour with most of the proceed expected to go to the museum.
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