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dazed, battered and bloody. the pilot is on the ground and in serious condition. he and his son are taken to the hospital and the two men walked away without any other injuries. according to the report by the ntsb, the plane experienced a down draft and clipped the trees and plummeted to the ground. that's all for us tonight. ac 360 starts now. good evening every one it is 10:00 here on the east coast. we're keeping them honest tonight two times. each ad goes straight for the gut seeking is to reinforce your negative views about either mitt romney or president obama. as pieces of political theater, tools of political war fare, each one is formidable and each one is false as in not true. tonight keeping them honest. we'll confront the defenders of these dubious ads. we're not taking political sides, we're simply trying to report facts. we begin tonight with the new mitt romney ad.
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>> in 1996, president clinton and a bipartisan congress helped end welfare as we know it. but on july 12th president obama announced a program to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements. under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they just send you your check. and welfare to work goes back to being plain old welfare. >> in a moment you'll hear from newt gingrich to defend the ad. he also makes a pretty stunning admission about whether the ad he is defending is true to the facts. but first, i want to show you how mitt romney is campaigning on the claims made in that very ad. >> with a very careful executive action, he removed the requirement of work from welfare. it is wrong to make any change that would make america a nation of government dependency. we must restore and i will restore work into welfare. >> listening to that and watching the ad you would think that the white house somehow managed to undo what the elected
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representatives accomplished on welfare reform. you get the impression the obama administration launched an american where hard working americans pay taxes and lazy ones sit around collecting welfare. newt gingrich spelled it out all. >> i think on the hard left, there is an unending desire to create a dependent america. it's not just obama's a radical, but the people appointed are more radical. >> the white house disagree and they're not alone. a string of fact checkers blast it as false. it was given a pants on fire rating. it was weighed in with the four pinocchios. what in fact the white house department of health and human services proposed doing was give governors more flexibility to tailor programs to their own states. these are changes requested by republican governors of utah and nevada. but what about this claim? >> if president obama didn't want people to think that he was
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going to waive the central work requirement and welfare reform, his administration shouldn't have written a memo saying it was going to waive the work requirements and welfare reform. >> keeping it honest, here's that part. >> i quote, hhs will only consider approving waivers related to the work participation requirements that make changes intended to lead to more effective means of meeting the work goals. the administration is insisting that aren't trying to waive the work requirement they're trying to make it less bureaucratic and more effective. precisely what the republican state governors have asked for. newt gingrich has defended the ad but as you'll see later on in this interview, speaker gingrich makes a surprising admission. i spoke with him just a short time ago. mr. speaker, this ad says you wouldn't have to work or train for a job. they would just send you your welfare check. according to pretty much every
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nonpartisan fact checking organization says that's not true. president clinton signed the law and says it's not true. even ron haskins said, quote, there's no plausible scenario under which this new policy constitutes a serious attack on welfare reform. are they all wrong? >> the original developer of welfare reform worked with governor reagan and then president reagan. he was the first person who come out aggressively and say look, this one in the end got welfare reform. his reasoning is straightforward. once you start allowing states -- this is why, by the way, the law itself does not permit waivers. the president couldn't waive section 407, so he fudged and found a way to get around it which i suspect will turn out to be illegal. governor from virginia says he thinks this is clearly gutting welfare reform.
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the two governors that the obama administration is hiding behind, utah and nevada have both come out and said this is not what they wanted or the flexibility they asked for. and i think that this is going to become a genuine argument. those of us who favored welfare reform and who worked hard to get it felt deeply, particularly in liberal states, if you didn't have some kind of strong requirement, they used to have things like getting a massage counted. going through drug rehab counted as a work program. it's amazing the range of things prior to 1995, or 1996, that you could do and pretend they were work. >> but i mean this ad said under obama's plan you wouldn't have to work, you wouldn't have to train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. there's no evidence of that at all. >> given that this is an administration which has maximized the increase in dependency, maximized the number of people on food stamps, maximized the effort of people relying on the government,
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there's also no evidence that once the waiver system is in place that you could rely on this administration to defend work. >> it would be up to governors as you just said and according to the governors themselves, that's not their intention. you talked about utah governor and they said utah's request for a waiver stems for a desire to increased customization of the program to maximize among the welfare recipients. that's almost word for word what the hhs is saying. the hhs acting assistant secretary of hhs said that ts is all about trying to create innovative strategies, flexibility, policies and procedures designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families. they're basically saying the same thing, no? >> sure. and the question you have to ask yourself, given the track record, given the general between liberalism and radicalism of the appointees and remember part of what led to the
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strong reaction was this came out in the same 48-hoor period as the president's famous speech that you didn't build it. that you weren't responsible as a small business owner for what you achieved. it's almost as though he was psychologically attacking work and achievement at the same time as he was shifting the regulations. and candidly this is not an administration that i think you're going to find any conservative give the benefit of the doubt to. >> but, isn't this in line, isn't this waiver idea in line with what you have proposed about solutions at the state level? basically decentralizing power, putting it back in the hands. governors and the states. >> this is one of the rare areas where frankly the reason we wrote in it could not be waived is when you allow liberals to do it they will wave the work. you just go back and look at the kind of things really starting with lyndon johnson and jimmy
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carter and expanding. the kind of things that state welfare departments and liberal states were doing were absurdities. and the whole stress to the welfare reform was a function of the failure of those kinds of states as contrasted with the governors of wisconsin who had done a great job movingoward work fare despite the federal bias. >> i've got to come back to the wording of this ad. it's under obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work, you wouldn't have to train for a job. they just send you your welfare check. that's not saying we assume this, or we think this it's saying as a fact this will happen. and that's just not supported by evidence. >> i think if the ad makers had asked me, i would have said this makes it possible. would have been a good way top enter in. >> so you think the wording of the ad is not actually accurate. that it is too straightforward. >> i think the ad does assert -- this is a political ad.
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in 30 seconds, you tend not to get all the various amendments and things. >> but accuracy is important. >> i'm here tonight supporting the idea. i believe absolutely that this, the obama administration is filled with people who do not believe in the work requirement. and this is, as you yourself pointed out, even when bill clinton agreed to sign the bill, half the democrats in the house, 101 representatives voted no. barrack obama himself was opposed to it. so when you say to me do i think all the people who opposed the bill would probably try to gut it if they get a chance? of course i do. >> if you were running this ad, you would change the wording to say i worry about this or based on what i believe about the president, i think he will do this. >> if i were running the ad, it would be a much tougher ad because i would start by saying, as the leading food stamp president in american history and the person who has increased
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american dependency more than anyone else in modern times, and a guy who has increased child poverty. the largest decline in child poverty was because we had a work requirement and went to school and their lives got better. my ad would have been tougher than this ad in setting up the conditions you're looking for but then it would have been a 60-second ad and i don't know if we could have afforded it. >> i think you could have afforded it. but i've got to come back to it because it did sound like you were saying earlier and i want to try to clarify this. you do think that the actual wording under obama's plan, you wouldn't have to, would, you wouldn't have to train for a job, they just send you a welfare check. that is not factually correct? >> we have not proof today, i would say to you under obama's ideology, it is absolutely true that he would be comfortable sending people checks for doing nothing. i believe that totally.
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>> i appreciate you being on. i should point out that's an assumption, he says he has no facts today. let us know what you think on twitter and facebook. up next the inaccurate pro president obama ad, we'll talk to one of the people for that. also to talk more about the strategy and calculation behind these commercials.
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we believe in the power of people when technology works for you. to dream. to create. to work. if you're going to do something. make it matter. the campaign trail first on a factually bogus romney ad, now a ad from the leading obama super pac that's expected to run in battle ground states across the country. it features a laid off steel worker. >> when mitt romney closed the plant i lost health care. and my family lost health care. and a short time after that, my
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wife become ill. i don't know how long she was sick, and i think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew that we couldn't afford the insurance. and then one day she became ill and i took her to the jackson county hospital and admitted her for pneumonia and that's when they found the cancer. by then it was stage 4. there was nothing she they could do for her and she passed away in 22 days. >> it's obviously a very sad story. keeping them honest, virtually nothing about the story fits the timeline or the facts. mr. romney was still on the books as being ceo when the steel mill had shut down. he was still listed as ceo and had a hand in how the company was handled. but in the ad mr. soptick says his wife became ill a short
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time after that. it turns out it was five years after that. in 2006 his wife unfortunately died. his wife actually had other health insurance, actually her primary insurance was from her own job and she still had that when he lost his health insurance. as with the romney ad, we talked about it before the break, the fact checkers are not smiling on this one either. "the washington post" giving the same as romneys. four pinocchios. concluding, on just every level this ad stretches the bounds of common sense and decency. saying i still haven't seen the ad. i don't speak for a third party group. i speak for the president and the administration and i explain and defend his policies. probe's campaign spokesperson went farther saying, we have nothing. no involvement with any ads done by priorities's. we don't have any knowledge of the story or family. the campaign should have some
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knowledge of him and his family because they used him in one of their own campaign ads earlier. >> i was a steel worker for 30 years. we had a reputation for quality products. it was something that was american made. and we weren't rich and i was able to put my daughter through college. >> that was joe soptic in an earlier ad for the obama 2012 campaign. bill is a senior strategist. he joins us now. bill, let's talk about this. "the washington post" says about your ad, it stretches the bounds of common sense and decency. independent fact checkers have said it is inaccurate. how can you imply that mitt romney and bain are somehow to blame for that poor woman dying of cancer. >> we don't and we're not. those facts checks presuppose that's what we're trying to do. that's not the point of the ad. the point of the ad is to tell the story of the impact that he
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had on thousands of people. when he came to town, they lost their job, their pension benefits. that impact is felt still today in those communities. >> but you spent, i mean, you're a smart guy, you have a lot of smart ad people in the group that you're working with. half the ad is him talking about his wife's demise. and it ends with him saying i do not think that mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone. the implication is clearly that he is responsible or what the actions he took led to his wife's death. >> you know, the story is a very sad one. and the truth is that there are thousands of stories that are, that happened as a result of mitt romney and his time at bain. and some of them are really tragic. but just because they're sad or tragic doesn't mean they should be off limits. we think it's important to tell the stories of these folks and how they were impacted by mitt romney. he put his business -- >> how is a woman dying -- she had health insurance from her
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job after this man last his job and then she got an injury years later and lost her insurance. >> right. to say that presupposes that we're trying to link mitt romney with her tragedy. >> you are. you've made a commercial about mitt romney and it's all about this woman's tragedy. if if you're not trying to link it, why are you even talking about her? >> but anderson, if we were making that point, that means if she hadn't had another job in the intervening time, if it happened sooner, that somehow mitt romney would be more responsible. that's not what we're saying. at a moment of true concern and anxiety in a family, when joe soptic needed health insurance for his family, he didn't have it. that's the point here. he was promised health care benefits and he lost them. >> you really claim, you really want people to believe you're not trying to link in any way, even just subtly or not subtly,
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that there's some linkage between mitt romney, bain capital, business decisions he made and this woman's death. >> anderson, it would defy logic to do so. the point is even today that community is completely worn down. the whole area. the factory is abandoned. people still don't have jobs in some cases. many folks don't have health insurance. people who do have jobs are getting paid much less. and mitt romney's business experience had a profound effect on the lives of thousands of people and that effect is still being felt and that's what this ad tells the story of. that's what al our ads tell the story of. >> i don't want to go back and forth on this but this ad tells us a very specific story. more than half of the ad is him talking very detailed about his wife -- it's a very sad story. it also jumps over, it truncates time in a way that makes it seem like he got fired, she didn't have health insurance, which she did from her other job, her primary insurance, in fact. >> not at the time that she
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died, though. she had health insurance for a short time. >> because she lost her other job. >> but ultimately when joe soptic needed health insurance to his family, that had been promised to him by a contract that mitt romney helped to negotiate, he didn't have the health insurance. >> because under bankruptcy protection they were able to do with the day -- >> they were able to void a contract that they had with workers. >> that's bankruptcy law. >> they made plenty of money. all those workers got screwed again. >> you can make an ad all about that. you're implying, i think any rational or certainly nonpartisan observers look at this and say you are linking this otherwise you would not put this in an ad. >> i think just the opposite. i think the rational thing to take away here is how on earth could you possibly imply that. what we're saying is at a moment of true anxiety. >> how can you imply that? it's totally disingenuous.
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come on. you know that. >> i don't think that's true. you think that mitt romney had an effect on these people's lives and to talk about it is an important part of his story. he wants the american people to make a decision on whether or not he should be president based on his business experience. and his business experience, when people take a look at it, when they hear the stories of these folks, they say i don't want that guy to be president of the united states. >> well, bill, i appreciate you come on to talk about the ad. thanks bill. >> thanks. >> let's bring in senior political analyst for his take. not just the ads but also the strategy of putting them out. whether or not they're factual. what do you make of this? >> well, anderson both sides are boiling mad tonight at the other because they each one thinks the other has been dishonest in a very unfair way and they're both right. >> you're saying they're both dishonest. >> it's very striking. this outside group checks these things carefully and they give pinocchios when they think something is wrong and they give
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four to both the obama team's ad and to the romney team's ad. >> when bill burton says how can you link to this death, there's no way you can suggest a linkage. do you buy that? >> no. of course not. it's plain on its face. i like bill burton but he's engaged in double speak. but of course the point of the ad is to make the point that mitt romney was responsible for this woman's death because she did not have health insurance. if you look at the pattern. over time they've called mitt romney a felon or suggested it. they said he didn't pay his taxes for ten years. now his business practice, he caused the death of a woman. and on the other side, obama is saying a birther movement. he was born outside the united states. which is wrong. that he's a muslim which is wrong. both sides are playing dirty.
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>> in the romney campaign ad they're saying president obama is trying to gut welfare reform, that under his plan you wouldn't have to work. you'll just be sent a check which is just factually not at all what they were proposing. it was interesting to hear newt gingrich tonight we don't have any facts today. >> in their heart we know. >> he's assuming this. >> newt himself basically said i wouldn't have written it this way, but we all know in their hearts what they believe, they're closet socialists or whatever. >> does it matter? there's always factual inaccuracies in ads and that's part of our job to point them out. but do you think it matters or do you think the fact that bill burton and newt comes on and just repeats it over and over again, does that help their cause even though it may be factually incorrect to just repeat the idea over and over again?
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>> i think it undermines confidence and trust in the president as well as in romney to have these kinds of campaigns. i think it ultimately is going to make it much more difficult for the winner to govern. they're not going to have the public support you need to govern well and there's going to be so much anger on the losing side when this is over. having said that, does it help? clearly the obama people feel that having a campaign based on this -- this is a different campaign that they conducted four years ago, is helping them. if you look over the last few weeks, it was a close race and president obama has opened up a lead. so i think it actually right now is generally speaking working in obama's favor. he's discrediting mitt romney in a way that people say i really don't like obama is doing but i can't vote for romney. i guess i've got to vote for obama. >> appreciate it. >> thank you. >> a lot more happening tonight. in syria, all out warfare is
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opposition groups say 30 people today died in aleppo alone. the source for the free syrian army says the situation in one neighborhood is quiet for now while another source with the same army said syrian government ground forces tried to enter a very volatile neighborhood but they pushed back. i want to check in with ben wedeman who is on the ground. >> we've made it, we drive through a government controlled area, but made it around the checkpoints. but now we're inside. there are very few people actually here.
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there are some civilians but the biggest danger is snipers that are on buildings in this direction, firing like this. so we've had to make a roundabout route into this area. >> ben wedeman joins me now. what's the latest situation you're hearing today? >> reporter: what we know that the syrian army attempted to get into a critical area next to the main highway between aleppo and damascus. according to sources in the free syrian army, about 200 foot soldiers came into that district which is very cramped. the roads are narrow and they were backed up by army tanks. we are told by the free syrian army that they were able to repulse this attempt to retake this critical neighborhood. this is part of this long anticipated counter offensive by the syrian government in aleppo.
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we saw people were increasingly concerned that the army would try to retake this city for the syrian government, but it appears at this point they've been repulsed. but of course we know that the syrian army has been reinforcing its numbers and its weaponry around the city. and of course the very good possibility that they're going to try again tomorrow to retake aleppo. >> in the last month or two, opposition fighters have increased their use of roadside bombs, of ieds and bombs. i understand that you learned they planned to use roadside bombs on syrian tanks that enter the city. >> yes. that's their way of evening out the equation. they're clearly outnumbered and outgunned in every possible way. they have the advantage however of familiarity with the territory. many of the fighters come from the neighborhood, they know it
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like nobody else. and they're going to be using, we were told, these improvised explosive devices to try to disable the tanks and therefore stop the syrian army in its tracks, so to speak. >> we saw when you were in aleppo you came under government sniper fire. what happened? >> we were coming into the front line in this battle and unfortunately we had a driver who hadn't been there in four days. even though he was completely confident of what he was doing. and we went through a small intersection and we heard the crack of several rounds very nearby. we screeched to a halt in front of a group of fsa fighters and they said are you crazy? don't you know there's a sniper there and less than a minute later a yellow taxi drove up and
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in the front seat was a man who had just been shoot by a sniper, slumped over, completely bloody by it. so it was a dodgy entrance into aleppo. >> my best to you and your crew. here at home there are new details tonight about the deadly shooting in the sikh temple in wisconsin. we'll have the latest ahead. first let's check in with isha. >> new york police returned to the basement. authorities say new information triggered the new search of the site of the former bodega. six year old patz disappeared. in neechb 1979 while walking to his butt stop. his body was never found. deadly floods in the philippines have claimed 16 lives. it forced hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. manila has recorded 34 inches of rain in 72 hours. here in the u.s., the july heat wave that destroyed crops also shattered a record. the average temperature last
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month in the lower 48 states, 77.6 degrees fahrenheit. more than 3 degrees higher than the record set in 1936. what's more the first seven months of 2012 are the hottest since recordkeeping started. and randy travis has been released on bond after his arrest for driving while intoxicated and allegedly threaten to shoot and kill the state troopers working the case. texas authorities say he was found naked on a highway, smelling of alcohol after a one-vehicle accident. we'll have the latest details in the investigation in the sikh killing. plus two brave little kids who are being called heros tonight. a brother and sister playing outside the temple that morning. they saw the shooter firing his weapon. they ran inside, warned the others. you'll hear from them ahead.
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welcome back. there's new information tonight in the last moments of the sikh temple in wisconsin. fbi officials say wade page killed himself after a police officer's bullet hit him in the stomach. there's also news tonight about new details about his girlfriend. misty cook was arrested sunday. what do we know about her? >> well, she was arrested for illegal gun possession. and the fbi wants to be very clear that that arrest has nothing to do with their investigation about the temple shooting. they say they interviewed her and she has been very cooperative. and at this point, they don't believe she knew anything about it or could have predicted that it could happen. it's still under investigation. but at this point she's in the clear. we are learning a lot more about her though. like her boyfriend, she seems to be knee deep in the white supremacy deal.
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world. the anti-defamation league provided some photos. in those photos you see her wearing a t-shirt. it's clearly her wearing it. in another photo she is with friends and she has her middle finger up with people. if you look at the end of the table, there is a guy giving a nazi salute. clearly she seem to be knee deep in the same world that wade page was in. >> i was surprised to hear that authorities now say this man actually shot himself after being shot in the stomach. what are they saying about the chain of events leading up to him taking his own life? >> basically they say they've been able to analyze some dash cam video from the squad car. of that second officer that pulled up. the first officer was ambushed, shot by page. the second officer according to
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this video shows that he shot page in the stomach area. page then drops to the ground in the parking lot. they say on the video they can see page raise his gun to his head and shoot himself in the head, there by giving himself the fatal wound. they're not sure if the officer's shot would have killed him or not but he did technically take his own life. >> in terms of the investigation, where does that stand? >> they say they are actively pursuing more than 100 leads worldwide. they issued 180 subpoenas, talking to people around his past. around the united states, even around the world. they didn't want to get specific as to where around the world. they're issuing subpoenas and talking to people and pursuing leads. but they say at this point, nothing has directed their attention in terms of being involved in this. they say the only person involved at this point is wade page and they have no other evidence that anyone else was
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involved. >> thank you very much. the death toll could have been much worse inside the temple that morning. food was being prepared for a communal meal. outside a 9-year-old child was playing with her 11-year-old brother. now, their parents had gone to the store to buy supplies. the two kids saw the gunmen approach and saw the gunmen begin to shoot, incredibly terrifying you can imagine. tonight they're being called heroes. earlier, i spoke to them. what do you remember about sunday morning at the temple? >> i remember my parents had to go get some paper plates and told us not to go outside. but it was actually really warm inside. so me and my sister, we went outside and we found some crates and we sat on that. and then all of a sudden, we find this purple taxi or a four-door sedan, and he -- a
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white man had come out and he -- for a second, me and my sister thought maybe he needed directions or needed -- or he needed help. but then when he was halfway there, he got both of his pistols and just started shooting randomly. and first shot, we thought it was a firework, but then when me and my sister looked at him, we noticed he was shooting those two people. and then we ran as fast as we could inside to warn everybody in the kitchen, everyone else just to warn everybody there's a man outside with a gun. >> were you scared? >> we were a little bit scared. >> i can imagine. how about you? i understand you're celebrating your ninth birthday. happy birthday, by the way. when you realized someone was doing something bad and trying
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to hurt people, what did you think? >> i felt kind of bad. >> you guys hid inside a pantry and you were very quiet. what happened while you were there? >> well, some of the people left the gas on and all of a sudden the door shut and the smoke was coming in and it was really hot. >> oh, my gosh, i bet. and i know you were gone to the store when the shooting first occurred. i mean, it must -- i can't imagine to be separated from your kids while all this was going on. >> we were very horrified. me and my husband were outside and they were stuck inside. at that time we couldn't think what's going to happen next because they were stuck inside. we were worrying and praying and hopefully seeing them again. and god was so great there with us, you know. >> you must be so proud of your kids for having the presence of mind to run in trying to warn
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the adults. >> yes, they were safe, they went inside and warned people like there's somebody with the gun outside. they should be, you know, hiding anywhere, where ever they can. >> a lot of people consider you and your sister to be heroes. what do you think of that? >> i think of that, i feel really proud of me and my sister that we didn't run off anywhere and we could have got, everybody could have gotten killed and same as us, too. but we went inside to warn everybody. in the kitchen. wherever we saw. >> i understand that your name means fearless. that seems pretty appropriate, doesn't it? >> yes. yes, it does, thank you. >> do you feel like a hero?
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>> yeah, i feel like a hero. >> yeah? well, i think you are, too. both you and your brother. thank you so much for talking to us. i'm glad you're both okay and, you know, just keep doing what you're doing. >> great his name means fearless. still ahead tonight. this may be a real eye opener. the federal government is being asked to loosen its cell phone radiation standards by 20%. trying to find out what that means and what impact it may have on all of us. details ahead. ess, do more business. in here, opportunities are created and protected. gonna need more wool! demand is instantly recognized and securely acted on across the company. around the world. turning a new trend, into a global phenomenon. it's the at&t network -- securing a world of new opportunities. ♪
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a lot more we're following. >> anderson egypt launches air strikes ground forces in sinai in response to several attacks by mass militants at military checkpoints near the border with israel. it's the first test for their new government. in libya, a power transfer. the general national congress is now in control after the country's transitional council handed over power today. it's the first peaceful government transition there since before moammar gadhafi seized power. back in 1969. a 360 follow. a 20-year-old christian college student is planning a rally in support of the mosque that burned down this week in joplin, missouri. it will take place next month. meanwhile, investigators are trying to figure out what sparked the blaze. it's the second fire at the mosque this summer. the government
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accountability office is urging the sec to revise its 16-year-old standards. and an agency says the cell phone regulations may not reflect the latest research. and hillary clinton had some major fun on her visit to south africa. and look at hillary clinton tear up the dance floor. during a dinner hosted by the country's foreign minister. look at her bust those moves. >> takes guts to dance on tv. something i would never do. >> what do you mean? >> i would never dance on tv. >> no? >> is that how you dance, really? >> really, you've got other moves? i guess not. so what? >> what is that? >> i'm just saying. >> i haven't seen you dance at the 360 party. not that we have parties really. >> don't share our secrets with the public. they don't need to know. all you need to do is -- no? >> no. >> okay, fine. >> time now for this shot.
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ah, yes. time for the ridiculist. tonight we're adding a group of people called the real life hamburglars. i'm talking about people who will go to extreme lengths to get their sweet mcdonald's. i do like my mcdonald's. you remember him from the commercials from the '70s and '80s. you might want to look away. ronald mcdonald is in it, too. >> the hamburglar is very clever and very sneaky and he loves taking mcdonald's hamburgers. >> creepy yet delicious. so the first stop is evansville, indiana where video caught this guy on tape at 2:30 in the morning. the glass doors to mcdonald's
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were smashed open with a rock. here he is trying to liberate a cash register from the counter. he seems to be having trouble, he gives up on the register and instead steals, wait for it. about $5 worth of yogurt parfaits from the refrigerator and then high tails it out of there. so police officers were looking at the surveillance. one thought he recognized the guy and suddenly what do you know, the suspect walks right by the store. >> he still had some glass from when he had broken the door on him. >> i guess he was returning to the scene of the crime pause he forgot a spoon maybe? you think he would have brushed the glass off. officers arrested him. >> if you're going to get the charge for breaking in, you might as well get something out of it. we've seen a little bit of everything. this one is a crime but it was still kind of amusing for the officers involved. >> personally i like the fruit and walnut salads. our next alleged hamburglar hails from pennsylvania. this guy says it's all a big
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misunderstanding. he's been cited on a misdemeanor charge of impersonating a public servant. he went to a restaurant on route 50 and demanded free hamburgers. >> he let them believe he was a police officer and on duty so that he could get free food. it's kind of ridiculous. >> the guy says he never pretended to be a police officer. he was just quote, teasing. do police officers really get free food at mcdonald's? i think it may be time for me to consider a career change. i like journalism and all but it doesn't come with free big macs. the one good thing about these two hamburglars, they didn't physically assault anyone. this lady in ohio, she became enrages because she couldn't get chicken mcnuggets because they were still serving breakfast. i must say, i've run into that problem sometimes myself. i never know what time they make that switch. she could have gotten pancakes