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he vowed to bring the killers to justice. mr. obama's remarks ending just moments ago carried live on cnn. he also spoke out about all of the religious extremism in the middle east and elsewhere around the world, specifically making mention to that extraordinarily offensive video. have a listen. >> i have made it clear that the united states government had nothing to do with this video, and i believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. it is an insult not only to muslims but to america as well, for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that's welcomed people of every race and every faith. we are home to muslims who worship across our country. we not only respect the freedom of religion, we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. >> our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is
live at the united nations. she joins us now. listening to that speech, it began with a mention of chris stevens, it ended with a mention of chris stevens and it's not lost on anyone watching that the president has two major audiences. he's got an international audience clearly, and he's got a domestic audience during this election. was he able to navigate appropriately between the two with the remarks he actually chose? >> reporter: well, it will depend who you ask, ashleigh, and i think that he within his parameters managed to navigate that terrain without escalating into talk that would be read as saber rattling or unusual for president obama. he talked about american values. you played that bite about chris stevens. he began with chris stevens, he explained to a global audience that not only is america offended by this video, is he offended by this video, but that part of american identity is
about protecting religious diversity, respecting religious diversity, and then he made a very graceful turn to explain it's also about respecting the freedom of speech. he didn't use that phrase because that's a flash point in the election season no doubt, but we're expecting the freedom to express whatever we believe. he made almost a joke saying, i, too, get criticized every day and as commander in chief he defends the right to protect that. so that is one point in the speech where i think he really did strike this careful balance between speaking to a global audience and a domestic audience in a way where he will not take bullets domestically. there are many other places in the speech where i expect he will be criticized during this campaign season, ashleigh. >> i want to touch on that. because, look, up until a couple weeks ago before this anti-muslim film came out and before there were pockets of unrest in just about every pocket of the middle east, the issue front and center globally seemed to be syria.
that wasn't addressed. >> reporter: right. he did check the box, you know, in a sense. like he acknowledged that there's challenges there and that more needs to be done, but there was no in depth discussion of it, and the world's eyes are on syr and the tragedies there. again, he just checked that box. with the israeli/palestinian conflict a brief and passing mention. i didn't hear afghanistan, china, all these issues that are pressing global concerns, notsp. this was clearly drafted to address the libya dilemma, the aftershocks of the arab string, and then the tensions between israel and iran because these are the concerns that are bubbling up in the campaign season here in the u.s., ashleigh. >> i think you make that point very clearly, jessica. the fact that we did not hear a
lot about the palestinian and israeli issue, and that is critical, particularly today with other news that's breaking. jessica yellin live at the u.n. joining us on this. thank you very much. i want to move on as well to the president who hitting hard on the unrest in the middle east also praising the people in libya who are standing by the united states denouncing the violence there. our cnn foreign affairs reporter elise lab bot joins me live from new york. i want you to dove tail off what jessica was reporting and the missing bits out of this speech, perhaps the issue of the palestinians and the israelis not necessarily being addressed, and this at a time when iran was front and center as well in this speech. i don't think you've got our signal just yet. let me give some background on that if i can. the issue today coming perhaps not coincidentally on a day when all of a sudden the iranians are reported to have done some missile testing in the persian gulf and those missile tests
happening, imagine that, close to american military exercises, naval exercises. so with that coincidence, elise, if you can hear me now, i want you to touch on this very other critical area of the president's speech at the united nations, iran, the fact of what iran has been saying and doing and this perhaps not coincidence of a missile test. >> reporter: i think that basically president obama did what he felt that he needed to do. he climbed up to the point of where he felt comfortable saying red line. i mean, obviously, benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, is looking for a red line from president obama. he didn't feel comfortable, officials have told us they don't want to give too much to the iranians about where the u.s. is going to draw the line. the u.s. has said clearly it's when iran would go to assemble a bomb. it's not a missile test, not having the capability. if the united states sees iran
going for assembling a bomb that possibly they can use, that's their red line. so i think president obama doesn't feel he needs to spell it out for the world stage, for the iranians who don't -- he doesn't want them skirting up to the line. he wants to keep the iranians guessing, so this whole issue here of him coming out saying, listen, i am not going to tolerate an iranian nuclear weapon and the israelis have to know that i'm committed to making sure that doesn't happen. >> and, elise, let's be clear, with so much talk, especially from benjamin netanyahu on a red line and the request for a red line, it seemed that there was a real delicate dance, as their often is at the u.n., in terms of how to handle all the rhetoric that's coming from iran and the president said make no mistake a nuclear armed iran is not a challenge that can be contained. it would threaten the elimination of israel, the security of gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy. bringing in those other elements as well, it seems like it's a clear effort to reach out to the
rest of the world saying you all have something at stake here. >> reporter: that's right. and obviously they're looking for the world to be tougher on iran regarding sanctions, for nations like russia that have influence over iran to use their influence to say everybody is going to suffer here if there's an iranian nuclear weapon, if israel were forced to make some kind of pre-emptive strike. right now this is the thing that everyone is worried about right now, not necessarily there will be an iranian nuclear weapon, but first that israel might go to strike and that would interrupt oil markets, that would cause really a regional instability, and so i think he is saying, listen, everybody needs to help out here and share responsibility, but i think that the main message right now was to benjamin netanyahu to say, i have got your back, something he said before, and also i think in many ways this was also a campaign speech, so he's also looking to those jewish voters, to the christian right in which israel is a very important
topic. >> and just quickly, elise, the words he used specifically, that the united states will, quote, do what we must, do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. is that ostensibly different from what we heard before? did he move at all in his position, at least in this particular speech? >> reporter: i think the rhetoric is a lot tougher, do what we must. it's the same thing, let's face it, as all options on the table. they both mean the same thing. that means if the u.s. were forced to engage in some kind of military activity, it would, but i think president obama, secretary of state hillary clinton, everyone has made clear they do not prefer that option, that they think that there's a need for diplomacy, but no one should make any mistake. if the time came and he had to make a choice between an iranian nuclear weapon and going after it, perhaps with u.s. military force, that he would do that, but clearly he's made clear he doesn't want to go there.
>> very quick turnaround for you, elise and jessica yellin for you as well. just as the president wraps up his remarks. remember, the president has a busy day. he's going to be speaking at the clinton global initiative today, something that mitt romney did earlier on. we'll have coverage of that in a moment. you can also see it right here live on cnn in our noon hour, which brings me to this note. it's very important if you're heading out the door, you can still stay up to date on everything that's developing today. you can do this on your mobile phone or get it on your laptop. log on to cnn.com/tv. all the instructions are there for you. back after this. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time,
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this case. and we are learning some really surprising new details and very specific new details about a deadly attack on camp bastion in afghanistan. it happened 11 days ago. may have seemed like a headline to you but when you hear the details, you will be surprised. the insurgents who attacks were wearing cross trainers as they snuck into the american encampment. two americans were killed in this attack, and our cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr was able to get more of these details of the assault straight from the marines who themselves were under attack. >> we see flaming aircrafts, we see the enemy shooting at us. we're seeking cover. we're hearing small arms fire, ak-47s, pkms, and then at some point soon thereafter see another rpg shot towards us and towards our building. >> reporter: for the first time on television, u.s. marines tell
cnn just how bad it got on the night of september 14th here at camp bastion in southern afghanistan when the taliban got inside the base. major greer chambliss and his squadron commander lieutenant colonel christopher rabel raced to the scene as the first rounds hit. >> he performed heroically that night. he came out the door, he engaged the enemy. >> reporter: these videos nato believes show the insurgents getting ready before the attack. it may be a clue how taliban fighters dressed in u.s.-style uniformed infiltrated through the fence on the eastern edge of the airfield. the taliban broke into three groups, one group headed right for the flight line. six harrier jets were destroyed, more than $200 million in damage. some marines say it is the largest loss of aircraft since
the vietnam war. >> we're hearing ammunition begin to cook off as well as their rounds that they're firing at us. we're hearing the sounds of fire as the gas is released from the aircraft. so it was, like i said, a surreal scene. >> gustavo gustado led another group into the fight. >> it's definitely like the movies. the fire was huge, so you can feel the heat hitting your face, you can smell it. you can hear all the snapping and cracking and all around the walls, all around you. >> for sergeant bradley atwell and christopher rabel, it would be their final mission. both men died of their wounds. lieutenant colonel rabel remembered by his marines. >> he saw a chaenge, and he took action. he took decisive action.
he led his marines and he led them from the front. >> reporter: lieutenant colonel rabe l went up against the taliban with the only weapon he had, his nine millimeter pistol. a full investigation remains under way as to how the taliban got onto camp bastion in the first place. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> great reporting, barbara. thank you. a memorial was also held for lieutenant colonel rabel and sergeant atwell at their home base in yuma, arizona. these pictures you're seeing yesterday. they were remembered as great marines and as great men. ♪
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all week long we have been going in depth on the issues that matter to you in 2012. you got to vote, right? got to know what's going on with the issues and not all the nasty campaigning. today we're going to go really deep into the high cost of college tuition and how to pay for it. christine romans joins me now. you said something on the very early morning show today that
astounded me, the amount that it has ballooned in the last ten years. >> tuition has just gone up, up, and up, and your income hasn't. the reality for the american middle class is you can't afford to go to college, and you also can't afford not to. so what are we going to do about it? >> reporter: when jackie graduated from brown university this year, she put off going straight to medical school. instead, she took a research job at sloan-kettering hospital. >> it is nice to have a paying job where i can pay back part of my student loans before going to med school and possibly adding on a lot more. >> reporter: and she had plenty of them, $100,000 worth. why? her family is middle class. her mother works in a school. her dad owns a bar. she says they're considered too wealthy to qualify for many grants but, she says, no the wealthy enough to have saved the money for the more than $50,000 a year to attend brown. >> when you're in the middle class, you're a normal suburban family, do you nt make an
outrageous amount of money so you can't pay for these outrage us prices por tuition. >> reporter: she's not alone. student loan debt hit $1 trillion last year. even tuition for public four-year colleges rose 68% over the last decade. enter the presidential campaign with college affordability a key issue for younger voters. >> i want to make college more affordable for every young person who has the initiative and drive to go and make sure they're not burdened by thousands of dollars worth of debt. >> reporter: president obama has expanded pell grants and cut out the banks as middlemen for plons allowing students to borrow directly from the government. now obama proposes to slow tuition growth by increasing state grants. yet, yed need congress to fund that. >> i will not promise free stuff you will end up paying for. i want to give you a great job so you can pay it back yourself. >> reporter: mitt romney's plan to help students, remove burdensome regulations and get
the government out of the student loan business. romney says the flood of federal dollars just drives up tuition. molly corbett broad of the american council on education says the recession's heavy toll on state budgets is also a factor. >> when the state reduces its support, the only other place to turn for most colleges in the public sector is to increase tuition. >> reporter: either way students like jackie feel left out in the cold. >> a lot of people who don't have students in college or don't have kids my age just think, like, oh, you're either wealthy enough to go to college or you get financial aid from the government and it's that simple, but it's not that simple. >> no, it's not that simple. what is simple and what's very clear is that, you know, families aren't saving enough money in part because they can't in many cases. a recent study biography dealt investments shows families are way behind in their college savings goals. fewer than one-third of parents with college-bound kids are considering the total cost of college. only 30% of all families are on
track to cover those costs. >> so i'm wondering if the news of the extraordinary increases in college has yet to filter down to people to say, oh, geez, we should have been saving all along. >> in some cases they just can't save. they're getting nothing on the stock investments over the past ten years, maybe they don't have a job. it's been tough, really tough. >> while i have you here, any chance you can do a quick -- we always hear the stocks are doing really well. >> you can see they're up 45 points right now at 13,600. i'll tell you why they're up today. pretty good housing news and we had pretty good consumer confidence news. so people with a job and some money in the bank are starting to show some progress right now. people without a job are still in the same old boat they were. >> christine romans, thank you. good to see you. >> you're welcome. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow.
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did you know that roughly 50,000 young latinos turn 18 every month in this country? did you know that in 2003 latinos became the largest minority in this country? did you know that makes them a very appealing voting bloc, and that's why rosario dawson is with me. welcome. it's nice to see you. you're the chairwoman of vota latino. you founded it in 2004. >> co-founded, yeah. >> you have something now called national voter registration day. all day today 900 events across the country to get people on the renl strati registration rolls. people, young people, latinos, all of the above? >> we have over 1200 partners we're working with. we're getting communities to come out and put a face to it
and it's really exciting because we have over 100 that's going on just in new york alone. we're working with 15 sororities across the nation that are going to be reaching out. we're making a big push just to register voters today. it's a big day even beyond just young latinos. >> those statistics i rattled off, those are just the tip of the iceberg. it is remarkable. just by the numbers let me read off, 12.2 million latinos expected to vote. 23 million eligible but not registered. clearly where you come in. 12.1 million unregistered in the swing states, critical, critical, critical. 1.4 million unregistered in florida. rosario dawson, you and i both know it's one thing to get someone as you're walking by to sign up and to register. it's a whole other kettle of fish to get them to leave their house on election day and go to the polls and all of the different road blocks that come in there. how do you take what you're doing now and extend it to that?
>> this is a great opportunity to make that connection at least initially with people, have that conversation, and as hopefully as we're enrolling them into the process of getting registered, we're connecting them to the idea that this is an opportunity for us to write down our story. >> this is step one. >> this is step one. this is that big moment where anne frank wouldn't survive today had she not wrote down her story. generations from now people will see what we care about. we have that ability to mark that, and this is our chance. so hopefully we're getting that engaged in this story and then after this it's just push, push, push, november 6, november 6, november 6. >> what about this big controversial issue, particularly this election cycle, voter i.d. laws. one thing to get them to register, another thing to say get out to vote and it's another to convince people before do you that, make sure you have your card and if you lost your home, tough register again. you got to do all sorts of things. >> that's one of the reasons we had so many different partnerships like with build a dream because 18 million people
are foreclosed on that you are homes and a lot of them have to reregister and they don't know that. we're petitioning the bang banks to make sure they know that. they have to make sure people aren't disenfranchised on top of losing their home. and it's remarkable because, you know, there's one in ten americans do not have the proper government i.d. in pennsylvania alone they're talking about almost 10% of the registered voters will not be able to be eligible. that's why that's still up in the air. they've only given out 9,000 of those cards they're supposed to mandatorily give out 100,000. it's very clear that even though there's no cases of any voter fraud that's in court system at all right now in pennsylvania, to possibly disenfranchise 800,000 people is a big deal. >> national voter registration day is today. when do you have time to act? >> on election years i don't act that much. >> thanks for coming in. nice to see you. ryone. you can now try snapshot from progressive free for 30 days.
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>> president obama wasn't the only candidate in a global forum today. in fact, governor mitt romney could not address the u.n., but he sure did the next best thing with a speech at the clinton global initiative. the annual conference is under way in new york as well. that's just a picture to behold, isn't it? this is not a split screen. this is not photo shopped. that is the republican nominee sharing the stage with the 42nd president of the united states, bill clinton. mr. romney took the opportunity to say that the united states is going about its foreign aid all in the wrong way. to foster work and enterprise in the middle east and in other developing countries, i'll initial nate somethi initiate something i'll call prosperity pacts.
the program in exchange for removing barrierses and opening their markets to u.s. investment and trade, they will receive assistance packages focused on developing the institutions of liberty. >> later today governor romney will link up with his running mate in ohio where there is a brand new cnn poll of polls, and it shows the romney/ryan ticket is running six points behind the obama/biden ticket. we've also got some new florida numbers as well. that shows a four-point edge for the democrats. let me remind you, that's a poll of polls, so the numbers are the numbers. there's no margin of error. what you see is what you get, at least according to the poll. we're going to hear from the president again next hour. we'll speak at the clinton global initiative. he will take his turn -- like i said, busy day. don't try to drive in new york city. oh, my lord. now, though, wolf blitzer gets to rest quietly in busy washington, d.c.
he joins me live t talk a little bit about this. when i watched governor romney speaking at the clinton global initiative, a, he looked very presidential as he gave this address. b, he talked foreign aid and foreign policy, and i want to get your take on his word. look, we spend a lot of money on foreign aid around this world. are we doing it the right way? he says no. >> are you running a sound bite or do you want me to just talk? >> i want you to react and let me know. that message he gave was so specific. we're throwing money and social services and not doing the investments. >> there's no doubt that the united states can be doing it in a much more effective way. a lot of the foreign aid, and it's really a tiny percentage of the overall u.s. budget, people think that u.s. foreign aid is enormous. if it's 1%, that's a lot. 's not even that much sometimes. it's a relatively small amount of the federal budget every single year, but it's critically
important in a lot of developing countries. they need the money. they just need it to be provided in a smarter, more efficient way that will help these folks down the road, and there's some great ideas at the clinton global initiative, how the private sector can cooperate with government, with the public sector, and the republican presidential nominee today, he came up with some new ideas that are certainly worthy of great consideration down the road in how to administer a foreign aid program. he wants to continue a foreign aid program, although, as you know, there are plenty of conservative republicans, isolationists as john mccain calls them, like senator rand paul of kentucky, they want to eliminate all u.s. foreign aid saming t saying the u.s. simply can't afford it. i think this will be a debate going forward whether or not to continue foreign aid to a lot of developing countries down the road. >> now i am going to run a sound bite and it's of that very controversial moment yesterday when the president, though very busy in new york today, made a
choice to go on "the view" instead of hold bilateral meetings. here is something that barbara walters asked him that was very meaty and his response. let's have a listen. >> what it be disastrous for the country if mitt romney were elected? >> well, you kw, i think america's so strong and we've got so much going for us that we can survive a lot, but the american people don't want to just survive. we want everybody to thrive. we want folks to have a shot at success, and so the question then just becomes whose policies are more likely to lead us to where we want to go. >> you know, wolf blitzer, i think you could arguably say that there is a bigger audience for "the view" than there is for the live speech at the unga today. >> i'm sure there will be a lot of people watching the president and the first lady on "the view," especially a lot of women. that's a key base he needs to energize. without a huge turnout among
women, young people, you know, minorities, if you will, the president is going to be in trouble. he needs to energize that same base he so energized four years ago and going on a show like "the view" certainly reaches out to a lot of female viewers who are home watching that kind of a television show and just to get them enthusiastic and excited. politically it makes sense. although, i will argue, ashleigh, and i have been saying this now, you know, when an incumbent president six weeks before an election goes to the united nations and meets with world leaders, there are photo-ops meeting with leaders from all over the world, it makes that incumbent president seem even so much more presidential. it's why george w. bush met with about eight or nine world leaders six weeks before he was re-elected in 2004. that's why bill clinton in 1996, six weeks before he was re-elected the incup band president, he met with 12 or 14 world leaders when he went to the united nations general assembly. i think it's good
internationally. it's good for national security, foreign affairs, but politically domestically, i think it makes a whole lot of sense. that's why i've come to the conclusion this was politically, forget about the political policy ramifications, it was probably a missed opportunity for the president. if he had been seen meeting with all these world leaders, i think it would have scored some political points because he would have come across obviously even more presidential than he does coming across presidential on "the view." >> and you would think he could kind of call his own shots on the day he would want to appear on "the view." >> no, he could have gone on "the view" next week or gone on "the view" whenever he wants. the producers and barbara walters will be happy to have him -- >> any day. >> politically, this was just a missed opportunity. >> wolf, thanks so much. we'll see you at 4 owe o'clock on your program. debates are closer. first is next wednesday night a week from tomorrow.
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what exactly is a mother? we all have one, right? many of us are moms. i'm a mom. but if you think very deeply about the question you may come up with some other answers because the definition of what it means to be a mother is at the center of a potential landmark case and how the courts define what is mother is could end up ultimately impacting you. we're going to delve into the legal implications in all of this in just a couple minutes, but first david mattingly has all of the details of what this story involves. >> reporter: cindy close says she made the biggest decision of her life without once thinking that she needed to legally protect herself. you were leaving an awful lot here just on faith and on trust. >> that's my nature, unfortunately. >> reporter: what has that cost you? >> it has cost me my heart. it may cost me my children. >> reporter: in july cindy close
gave birth to twins, a boi and a girl, but the new single mom never got to take them home. they are now the center of a legal battle in texas challenging the definition of a mother. >> i'm their mother because i love them. i love them. it's no different than someone who adopted a child. love is all it takes to be a mom. biology doesn't have to be there. >> reporter: in this case cindy close was using eggs from an anonymous donor and sperm from a long-time friend who approached her with a surprising question a few years ago. >> basically he said what would you think about being a married stay-at-home mom and financially secure in your own home? just think about it. that's what he said to me. that began this discussion. >> reporter: it might have sounded like a proposal, but it
wasn't. cindy says her friend wanted them to be co-parents, living apart but raising the children together. cindy says she believed the children would live with her until the day she got the shock of her life. when did you find out he was gay? >> the day my children were born. >> reporter: while the children were still in the hospital, court documents show their biological father asked the court to declare him the sole parent arguing cindy close was not the mother, not genetically related, and her role was that of a surrogate. what do you do? >> it was horrible. i cried, and i told him he's going to steal my babies. he's going to steal my babies and i don't know what to do. that's what i did. >> reporter: the children now live at his partner's house. neither the father nor his attorney agreed to comment. >> my children are involved and
they're minors, and we're in litigation. >> but you don't think miss close should have any relations with your children? >> we're not going to give any comments at this time. >> reporter: and the bitter court battle has begun with the potential of shaping the legal definition of a mother. cindy close is allowed to see the children just two hours a day as the legal battle now begins, and she fights for the right to be called their mother. david mattingly, cnn, houston. >> goes without saying this case raises an enormous number of questions about parental rights. i want to bring in defense attorney joey jackson. joey, this woman carried these babies nine months, went to the hospital, delivered those babies, and now there has to be a definition between what it is to be a mother versus is surrogate? can't she have any rights from what the get-go? >> and she will have rights. really quickly, here is how it works. you're either a mother or is surrogate. a mother says if you give birth
of the child you're their mother unless you're a surrogate and a surrogate means a third party has contracted with you in writing, meaning provided an egg, provided the sperm such that you would carry it to term. plain and simple. so under texas law you're the mom surrogate. if you give birth you are the mom, you are entitled to those rights unless you can give me an agreement, show me one in writing that says you agreed to be a surrogate. >> with he have to take a break but here is where it gets weird. there was no contract, there was no deal, and yet those babies were taken away from the hospital and they don't even reside right now with the father. a lot of questions. more with joey jackson right after the break. ct. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters.
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fertilization. do donor eggs. a father whose sperm was used. an alleged agreement that the people would coparent. the father breached that agreement. he takes the baby. there's no contract in writing. how did he take the babies out of the hospital when there's no contract? >> great question. i think this will boil down to a custody issue. he is a same-sex parent. he has a lover or same-sex partner. in order be a surrogate parent, you're not married. if you're not married, you cannot be a surrogate parent. as a result of that, was she the mother because she gave birth? i think a judge will punt on this case and say, listen, based upon the fact that she is the birth mother and there's not a valid surrogate agreement,
therefore, i'm deciding the issue of who the child stays with on a regular basis. >> no gay marriage in texas means it is not valid. so you cannot be a surrogate. >> right. it's not for a judge to pass judgments and engage in whether same-sex marriage is legal. if the law says there is no valid surrogate with an unmarried parent, the legislature would have to enact a law that makes it lawful. >> they were not her eggs. she carried those babies. what does that tell us about all the adoptive parents out there who are legally parents and don't have the biological connection to their bay bbiebab? >> she carried that baby to term. as a result, she's the mother. biological mother, not excluded, she's the mother.
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