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will win one of hollywood's biggest honors. . good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. we begin with breaking news of a devastating fire in brazil. just moments ago, we got these first pictures of the tragedy there. in the last few minutes, we've gotten word of a massive jump in the death toll from the nightclub blaze in santa maria, in brazil. officials telling cnn that 220 people are dead. 220. that is up from the 90 that we were originally told. this is among the deadliest fires of this type in history. it was ten years ago that 100 people were killed in the station nightclub fire in rhode island. this fire today in brazil, more than twice the size of the fire in rhode island. the cause of this fire, still under investigation. but reports say pyrotechnics may have caught some of the club's sound proofing on fire.
in these kinds of disasters, people are more often killed by being trampled or by the smoke than by fire itself. we continue to watch these live pictures of this scene there. we will get some more information and a live report from brazil in just a few moments from now. and back here at home, an ice storm making its way through the midwest. a major storm pushing through the plains into the great lakes, leaving as much as a half an inch of ice on roads, trees, power lines, heavy snow is also possible. i'm joined by samantha moore. where is that all headed? >> right now headed into st. louis and chicago. so what a mess it is going to be throughout this afternoon with the ice accumulating. it forms first on elevated surfaces. bridges, overpasses, freeways. slow down, take it easy. it is going to be a rough go for a while. as this moisture moves from the
desert southwest. record rain in phoenix yesterday. one of the top ten wettest days ever in recorded history in the valley of the sun. that moisture starting to push more into the pace in's midsection. still a few showers left in arizona, but the bulk of the activity here centered on st. louis right now. where freezing rain has been reported. trace amounts so far. more expected. could see a tenth of an inch of ice, and, of course, you know that is enough to make it very difficult to navigate the roadways. so stay at home if you can in the st. louis area this morning. also in chicago, throughout this afternoon, we expect to see conditions go downhill. you can see that wintry mix approaching the chicagoland area right now. so we expect to see it move in throughout the late afternoon hours, and by the time you think about bed time, things improving. the frontal system on approach, once it passes through chicago and in through milwaukee, we'll see it turn into a cold rain. road surfaces should start
improving tonight and then tomorrow, the problem areas will be in cleveland and over in toward pittsburgh, randi. we'll keep our eye on this throughout the day. >> samantha moore, thank you very much. the intensifying gun debate stretching across the country. gun control advocates are hoping a weekend protest in washington will bring real change. thousands of protesters marched on the national mall yesterday, survivors of mass shootings also there. they called on congress for tighter gun control. march organizers say it's not about taking people's guns. >> we're not talking about hunting rifles. not even talking about handguns to protect your own home or your small business. we are talking about assault-style, military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. the things that make it possible to kill with horrifying efficiency. weapons of war turned on little
kids. and that's what's got to change. >> a smaller group protested across the street against the changes. long lines at this gun show outside atlanta. some were there to buy their first gun. others were eager to buy insult weapons like the ar-15 because lawmakers want to ban them. that is driving up the price of certain guns and ammo. >> 10 years ago i could buy 1,000 rounds of ammo for my ar-15 for $100. now it's 50 cents a round. gold hasn't gone up that much. vice president joe biden talked to officials at virginia tech about background checks and mental health issues. in arizona, nearly 50 hikers
rescued after stranded in a national forest, trapped by raging floodwaters. rescue crews, searched for hours on foot and in the air, using infrared technology to make sure everyone got out. record rainfall near tucson caused that flooding. back to the breaking news out of brazil. 220 people killed in a nightclub fire in santa maria. joining us is shasta darlington. do we know any more about what caused this fire? are they looking at the pyrotechnics? >> they stint haven't determined what caused it the acoustic foam caught fire. this was a large nightclub, could fit 3,000 people. they don't know how many were in at the time. but, unfortunately, the death toll keeps rising. i spoke to the coordinator of
civil defense a short while ago, he said 90. when i called him back, he confirmed 220 bodies pulled out. the vast majority killed from asphyxiation, breathing in the smoke, not the flames themselves, the lights went out and people didn't know where to turn. a lot of them locked themselves in the bathroom. hid in corners. found people just looking for any place they could, or bodies sort of piled up in the corners of the establishment, randi. >> are investigators still on the scene? i'm curious what else they might be finding? >> they are, randi. they are digging through the rubble. they want to find any and all bodies, any survivors. three local hospitals and they said they had more than 50 people with injuries. other hospitals have more. to make sure everyone is getting the care they need and they find all of the victims. and the real hard work will
begin trying to discover the cause of this and why they couldn't get people out in time, randi. >> do we know anything about the fire alarm system, whether or not the doors were locked? we talked about this a lot ten years ago after the station fire in rhode island. >> we really don't, randi. the man i talked to, the colonel i talked to said they didn't have any idea if the fire alarms went off, sprinklers went off, whether security guards reacted the way they should in the situation. these were all things they needed to investigate over time. >> a pretty popular club, from what ian, a couple thousand people a weekend visit this? >> that's right. a very popular club and on top of that, this is the summer of? brazil. the end of the summer for many university students and for working professionals. this was the last weekend before they head back to class or to the office. as you can imagine, a lot of
people out having fun, randi. >> and to we have any sense of the ages of the people in that club? >> i was told it was popular among young people. around 20 years old. i don't know the ages of those killed, those injured. details we're hoping find out in the coming hours. i can't imagine with so many university students headed back to class this week and next, i think we will discover we have a lot of young people in the club. >> what about brazil's president? he is cutting short a visit to chile to come home? have you heard that? >> i knew she was in chile, i hadn't heard she was heading home. as these numbers climb, i wouldn't be surprised. this is a big tragedy. >> shasta darlington, we'll return to you in 20 or 30 minutes for another update. thank you. and what it will cost you to
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welcome back. 13 minutes past the hour now. the united states post office needs money. a lot of money. so starting today, it's going to cost you a little more to send your mail if you are just want to send a normal letter to grand grandma, a penny more. 46 cents. a postcard goes to 33 cents. it doesn't end there. it now costs you $1.10 to send a letter to canada and mexico. $1.05 for most other destinations. overall, prices for mailing and shipping will increase by 4%.
u.s. postal regulatory commission ruth goldway joins me to talk about this. let me show you this first. the net loss of the u.s. postal service, about $16 billion last year. more than triple the $5 billion in losses the year before. is the post office going broke? is a penny more for a letter really going to turn things around? >> a penny will bring about another billion in revenue to the postal service this year. but the issue with regard to the big deficits relates to the fact that the postal service has to prepay a fund that will pay for future retirees' health care benefits over the next five years. an accounting mechanism put into the law in 2007, requiring the postal service to pay $5.5 billion a year that has added up to enormous deficits that the postal service simply can't pay.
if you look at the operating deficit of the postal service last year, it was about 2$2.5 billion and they are hoping to reduce that deficit this year. but the burden that they have with the big health care payments creating enormous pressure on the postal service and making difficult to adjust to the future. >> so i guess what is the answer then? can we just cut to the chase? what price do we really need here to get the postal service out of debt? >> well, you know, the postal service, we figure out how much money they would need and the prices, it could raise 25% or more. and given the competition with the internet, are you likely to get fewer pieces of mail and raise the prices even more. simply raising prices is not the solution. i think the government the
congress has to look at a way to reduce the burden that the postal service has with the payment they have been saddled with and the postal service more flexibility in terms of offering more products and working with state and local government to share costs. >> the postal service doesn't receive taxpayer support, though it has borrowed $15 billion from the u.s. treasury. how much more does it need to survi survive? >> the postal service is a separate agency, wholly owned by the government. it is paid for by money who buy stamps and they get $65 billion a year in revenue from stamps and that would cover their expenses if they could reduce payments for health care retiree benefits funds and increase revenue with nonpostal products.
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it i have to appear i like my brother. >> their teams went at it on thanksgiving day 2011. >> i am proud of him, love him. i'm his biggest supporter, right next to his wife. this week, we' he's just somebo we're trying to beat. >> reporter: this time, their mom hopes for a tie. and this to tell you about. the australian open men's final is over. novak djokovic wins, beating annie measuan andy murray in four sets. a couple of tiebreakers. novak djokovic, the first ever to win three straight open titles. murray beat him in the u.s. open last year. pretty excited about coming back and winning this one. breaking news this morning. a massive nightclub fire in brazil.
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welcome back, everyone, to cnn sunday morning. i'm randi kaye, thank you for being with us. a nightclub fire in brazil, one of the deadliest in history. 220 people killed in the fire at the kiss nightclub in santa maria, brazil. the cause of the fire under investigation. just getting video from the scene. but pyrotechnics may have caught
some of the club's sound proofing on fire. similar to what happened at the station nightclub fire in rhode island. 110 people died in that fire. joining success shasta darlington, on the phone with us from there. shasta, can you tell us, and what do you know about this? what is the situation there right now? >> reporter: randi, numbers are rising. we have been talking about this as they pull bodies out of this nightclub. speaking a couple of hours ago, 90 dead. now 220 dead. and scores and scores injured. we're waiting for the whole situation to stabilize. this was a big, popular weekend, just before university students go back to school. a lot out on the summer break. this nightclub can hold up to 3,000 people. we don't know how much were inside when the fire broke out. we can assume there were a lot of people with this many dead
and it will be a really sad and tragic low point obviously in brazil's history already, randi. >> how similar are they saying this might be to the fire in rhode island, the station fire? there it was the pyrotechnics that led to the sound proofing on the walls and ceiling to catch fire? >> reporter: i think it's too soon to say, randi. one of the men i talked to from civil defense is convinced it wasn't pyrotechnics. other people from the fire department who are saying it was, so i think to really draw any direct parallels, it's just too soon. we have to wait and see what investigators find out. obviously the sound proofing did play a role and that will be something to take into consideration in the future. as will the response to these tragedies. many people have locked themselves in the bathroom. they couldn't see where they were going. trying to escape the flames and
in the end died from asphyxiati asphyxiation. obviously something isn't working in the nightclubs when tragedies do happen, people are not getting out in time. that is something the people will have to review and come up with solutions. >> right. and certainly with 220 bodies now recovered, they have to go through the gruesome process of identifying them. any sense of the ages of the people in that club, who go to that club? >> our understanding, a nightclub for fairly young people, late teens, early 20s, at this point, we don't know the ages of the victims. the fire broke out. apparently around 2:30 a.m. a party going crowd. i think that's what we're expecting the investigation will conclude, that these were young people at the end of their summer break. letting loose when this -- this tragedy happened. >> shasta, we're being told there are some reports that the
death toll has gone up to 245. can you confirm that? will you be able to confirm that for us and get back to us? >> reporter: i will definitely look into that and get back to you. what the regional director coordinator of civil defense told me when i last told him, the confirmed 220. but they were still on the scene, those numbers can definitely vary, randi. >> sounds like they might go up and will continue to go up sadly. shasta darlington, thank you. thousands of gun control advocates marched on washington yesterday. many motivated by last month's massacre in do youtonewtown, connecticut. some countered the argument, saying restriction to weapons would make the country more dangerous. >> we need to be heard. >> reporter: lori is not accustomed to events like this. this is her first demonstration. >> newtown just tore my heart
out. honestly didn't feel this emotional since 9/11. >> reporter: marching behind a banner that says when we stand together, we stand a chance. some targeted the nra with signs, and others held up names of gun violence victims. across the street, a counterdemonstration. dick heller was there. >> a dangerous city when people are disarmed. >> reporter: both rallies a day after vice president joe biden announced a gun control plan. the most powerful testimony came from a survivor of the 2007 massacre at virginia tech. >> we need to challenge any politician who thinks it's easier to ask an elementary school teacher to stand up to a gunman with an ar-15 than to stan up to a gun lobbyist with a
checkbook. >> reporter: gun violence won't be solved with a ban according to the independent firearm owners association. >> what will be the impact of the future ban on those assault weapons and magazines? zero. in additiona. >> reporter: lori bennett hopes for better odds than that. >> the bottom line, we can't prevent all of the violence, but if adam lanza went into that school without all of those bullets, lives would have been saved. reports of child labor, violent physical abuse and black mail. sounds like a new crime drama, but a new book on the church of scientology. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here
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an intelligence, a consciousness. >> reporter: going clear, in scientology is reaching a higher level of consciousness and clearing one's self of past subconscious events. scientologists believe that gives them access to a life force and they become what they call o.t.s, or operating thetans. >> have y >> you have a body. have you a mind. are you a thetan. >> reporter: the new book "going clear," the author puts scientology and its status as a religion under a microscope. wright focuses on the obsession with celebrity through writer/director paul hagus. he won two oscars for his film "crash." he left the church after his daughte daughter coming out as a lesbian
made him take a hard look at scientology. >> it's horrible treatment these kids had. terrible. made to work so often and all day long, and these terrible conditions. [ bleep ] them for that. yeah, they should be taken down for that. >> reporter: in a statement, the church says it diligently followed and continues to follow all child labor laws in every state or country in which it operates. the church says complaints about children being forced to perform chores for long hours are unfounded. in wright's book, haggis found himself in trouble with the church when he crossed its biggest celebrity tom cruise, who worked for years to recruit director steven spielburg into the church, blaming him for foiling his efforts. the book delves into the relationship between cruise and the church's leaders.
cruise was awarded t thed the f medal of valor. >> these are the times you will remember. were you there? what did you do? >> karen pressley worked in hollywood's celebrity center in the 1980s and part of the vaqnguard. >> when david took over, the leadership of the church, he decided to focus on celebrities, because the name of scientology had lost so much power, he felt that bringing big names into scientology was the way to build credibility back. >> before cruise, john travolta was scientology's biggest star. joining the church before his breakout role as vinny barbarino in "welcome back cotter." researching and writing the book, travolta had a troubled relationship with the church, threatening to be outed as gay
if he didn't fall into line and there is a gay slur privately about travolta. travolta has never publicly addressed his sexual orientation and has been married to kelly preston since 1991. the church has adamantly denied would ever disclose private information. this woman left the church in 1998 after deemed sp, or suppressive person and sent for punishment to the church's sprawling gold base in the desert east of los angeles. >> made to do hard labor, half of every day. and then the other half of the day, we were spent on our rehabilitation program. where we were to confront our treasonous actions to
scientology. >> reporter: the church said the rehabilitation workforce is a completely voluntary program of spiritual rehabilitation, and the claims of abuse while participating in the programs are false and included a waiver that karen pressley, then karen schless signed, in 1990, saying she entered the program voluntarily. she says she signed under durr he is. wright follows the leaders rise to the top spot. is he portrayed as a ruthless and cruel leader, at times using physical violence to get his way and punish subordinates, claims church leaders vigorously deny in the book and to cnn in 2009. >> the allegations are absolutely untrue. nothing of the sort as they are describing by the leader. >> he has never kicked somebody, never punched somebody, never strangled somebody? >> never, never, never.
>> reporter: the church of scientology says it's full of many mistakes, unfounded statements and utterly false facts and infused with religious bigotry. the church is evaluating legal options, publishers in the uk and canada have shied away from publishing the book. the church has launched this website, a point by point rebuttal of the points in the book. still, the book is flying off the shelves. the screen actors gild award tonight. the snubs and surprises of the season. first -- a question for all you political junkies watching this morning. has a movie about the president of the united states ever won the oscar for best picture? if you know the answer, tweet me @randikayecnn.
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so before the break, i asked you if you knew the answer to this question right there, has a movie about president of the united states ever won the oscar for best picture? the answer, nope, never ever ever. so if "lincoln" wins it would be the first time. the folks at the bad lip reading website, they are at it again. this time turning their
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emotionally after the murders of all those children in connecticut. then we saw him mentioned in the inaugural address. dianne feinstein, the author of the first assault weapons ban which expired eight years ago. the question isn't whether the conversation is moving rapidly. the question is whether the bill will move rapidly and not a lot of people give it a huge chance of passing, at least the assault weapons part of it. if we want to talk to her about the chances of that, whether she has talked to some of the democrats who have voiced some reservations if not outright opposition to this bill. and try to size up the chances, because it is one thing to talk about it. as you know, much tougher to pass it. >> certainly so. candy crowley, thank you very much. >> thank you. keep it here for "state of the union." starts in about ten minutes, 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on
cnn. breaking news we've been talking about. a devastating fire in brazil. we have gotten word on a massive jump in the death toll at the nightclub blaze. happened in santa maria. officials telling cnn 4 nnch nne dead. up from 220. this is among the deadly fires of this type in history. i want to bring in cnn shasta darlington in sao paulo, brazil. i imagine investigators are still on the scene. >> reporter: that's right, randi. they still are. this is what enables, unfortunately, these numbers to keep rising. the fire started at local time around 2:00, 2:30. late morning. still dugging through the rubble. still looking for both victims and survivors and the numbers just keep climbing. this is a city that's actually close to the southern border of
brazil. a good three-hour drive from the biggest major city nearby. so the information is definitely in flux. we could see numbers climb even further, once the three local hospitals treat all of the injured sense there. some of the people have been injured very seriously. we'll have to see how well they recover. now, again, we're obviously trying to figure out what the cause of this fire was. a lot of reporting that it was pyro tech knicks, there are other officials who believe it happened during the py pyrotechnics, that wasn't the cause. it will take time to work out the details, why people didn't evacuate in time, why so many were killed. >> we are looking at new pictures coming in to us at cnn. you can see the chaotic scene as rescuers try to pull survivors, but mainly bodies from the
nightclub there. i guess do we know -- did most of these people die from the fire it's? or from the smoke? >> no, unfortunately, randi, most of them died from asphyxiation from smoke inhalation. this was a dark nightclub. most likely all of the lights went out. they couldn't find the exit doors, even if they were open. we don't know that, of course. some people locked themselves in the bathroom, somehow thinking that would keep them safe. others ran into dark corners, hoping it would keep them away from the flames. it did keep them away from the flames, the establishment filled with smoke. >> a terrible scene. we know you will continue to report. shasta darlington, thank you. we'll take a quick break and be right back. see life in the best light.
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prestigious best cast category after a fantastic showing at the golden globes. who will win tonight? let's find out. john murray from always a list.com and david caplan. good morning. i know you are excited about tonight. john, a whole lot of awards shows out there. what makes the screen actors gild different? >> what makes the screen actors gild different this accept operates the actor. it's the peers that nominate them. the actors win at ward. best ensemble instead of the best picture. >> is tonight a preview for the oscars? >> definitely. you see what wins. maybe it does have a chance. he would have seen a lot of movies tonight that have gotten nods at the golden globes. what happens at the s.a.g.s happens at the academy awards. >> best cast who will take it
home? >> it will be "silver lining playbook." this film getting great momentum to the s.a.g. show tonight and people are gravitating toward the film. >> and david. >> i was going to see the same thing. it's an actor's movie. people love jennifer lawrence and bradley cooper and great acting. i agree with him. >> what about "lincoln?" . >> it will get a nod with daniel day-lewis for best actor. i don't know about best film. >> also about television. who could take home best come believe? >> "modern family." people in love with this show. it will take home the prize. >> always so funny. david, what do you think? >> say the same thing. "modern family," but a lot of nostalgia with "30 rock" and "the office." it could be a surprise.
a lot of people voting may want to give it a nice farewell. >> comedy is an easy one. what about best drama? >> "homeland." controversy, snubbed last year. didn't get any nominations, very much like "scandal" this year. i think "homeland" will get it as redemption for last year. >> david? >> i agree. >> you agree with everything. >> we're on the same page. >> we compared notes beforehand. "breaking bad" may be a second. everyone loves that show. that's possible. >> what about the red carpet? expect we'll see a good scene there, john? >> listen, randi. called the s.a.g. awards, but be assured, everything will be tight tonight. everyone will have their botox treatments and looking their bests. >> oh, boy. david, want to add to that? >> we'll see a lot of botox and a