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been up against 20 to 25-mile-per-hour head winds. this tugboat can only go about 12 to 14 miles per hour on its own. when you hook up a big ship behind it trying to tow it against all of this wind and the ship is acting like a big sailboat going the wrong direction. this is the buoy they can be at tomorrow so they can take it through mow beel ta. there is the triumph right now where they are going to rendezvous with another boat. they will hook up also more boats up here along the canal. this canal is only about 300 yards wide where you don't want to be bumping into the side of the big dredged area here. there's ft. morgan. it's going to go right past ft. morgan and on into mobile bay.
30 miles on up into mow beel from here, this dredged canal. red cans and buoys and going all the way through there. any mariner remembers going through there, they are going to take it through here, through past sand island. there's a cruise ship dock that they don't use anymore and that's where they are going to go. it's right there. hopefully they get there this time tomorrow. >> it should be this time tomorrow. chad myers, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> as it is heading into port, and it will be docking there in mobile, alabama, we will bring you live team coverage as it is returning. i know a lot of family members, some of whom we've talked to on this show, are eagerly awaiting their return. some moms and dads and husbands and wives are ready to get home and have a good meal and nice good shower. meanwhile, i'm brooke baldwin. let's go to wolf blitzer in washington now. hey, wolf. >> brooke, thanks very much. happening now, new information coming in, including the police radio conversations during what we presume were the final moments for a killer ex-cop.
also, thousands of passengers remain at sea on a ship with no engine, no air conditioning, no hot water, and overflowing sewage. so when with all of this end? plus, the debate about whether a tlirs see senator's awkward moment hurts or helps his moment to perhaps one day become president of the united states. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." ♪ >> the beat of drums and a flag-draped kau coffin are all part of a funeral for an ex-cop's killing rampage. riverside police officer michael crain was ambushed and killed a week ago tomorrow.
he was 34 years old. had he been with the riverside police department for 11 years. crain's one of four people who died during christopher's ten-day of vendetta of revenge for his firing of the los angeles police force. as for dorner himself, investigators are piecing together the story of what exactly happened on tuesday, the day they are still assuming was their last day alive. our brian todd is is in the town of big bear lake, california. >> reporter: more than two hours drive from where christopher dorner's troubles began, the former. >> larry: a. policeman terrorized a rustic community in his final hours. near big bear lake, rick heltebrake says he was carjacked by dorner who came out of the trees while he checked on a property. >> he came up to me with his gun pointed at me and i stopped my truck, put it in park, raised my hands and he said, i don't want
to hurt you. just get out and start walking up the road and take your dog, which is what i did. >> reporter: a california fish and wildlife official tells us they believe dorner was driving a stolen car when he shot at two of their wardens as he passed them, damaging their vehicle. others in this area also crossed dorner's path. it was in this group of houses that dorner at one point encountered a couple cleaning one of the houses. he tied them up and stole their car. this was right across the street from one of the law enforcement command posts and a very popular ski resort where people are still feeling the anxiety over what happened. at bear mountain resort, where hundreds of skiers and snowboarders gather every day, one of the managers says people had been living in fear for days knowing that dorner was in the area. >> some of the employees that work around here, they were feeling the vibration. it was scaring them. they had their guns loaded sleeping -- you know, sleeping with their guns. >> reporter: kaitlyn had come to spend her 17th birthday on the slopes just as the news broke
that dorner was moving close by. >> i found out when my mom called me crying coming to get me. i don't know. it was kind of scary knowing that he was just right there. >> reporter: her mother pam drove to big bear frantic to get her out. what was going through your mind at the time you were driving up here? >> to get here as quick as possible and not cry pmz because i knew how scared i was and they had seen all of the activity so close to the slope. >> reporter: carla was just a few dozen yards away when the final gunfight broke out. we spoke to evans' wife who's friends were calling and texting during the standoff. >> it was really scary. i was frozen in the kitchen for a good 30 minutes. and just trying to get in touch with him, i was thinking, oh, my gosh, am i going to be a single mom? >> that report from our brian todd who's in bear lake right now. we'll be joined by him life late every. a big part of the story is the bravery of the countless law enforcement officers who put
their lives on the line to catch christopher dorner. as brian just reported, the california fish and wildlife wardens were the first to put their lives in the line of fire on tuesday. the ad agency spokesman andrew is joining us from sacramento. andrew, thanks very much for coming in. >> thanks, wolf. >> have you spoken with the wardens who were involved with this encounter with dorner yesterday? >> i have. i spoke to them last night. >> what did they say? what was it like? can you walk us through what they told you? ? >> right. they were very amped up and excited, as you can imagine. the one warden who did the shooting was very excited in a wound-up way but he said two things to me that i've thought about in the last two days. first he said, for a few seconds this was the wild, wild west and then he thought about it for a second and he said, i'm grateful
and thankful to be alive. >> how were these wardens able to spot dorner? what did they say? >> well, they are excellent officers and they are trained to do this kind of thing all the time. this is unusual but not out of their lane and they were in the right place at the right time in a position to help. they recognized, they had great situational awareness to be able to recognize mr. dorner, even in a vehicle that they didn't think he was going to be in. they made direct eye contact and they engaged. >> this was a life and death moment for them. what happened to them? how did they get out of that death moment, shall we say? >> well, wolf, there are actually two recognitions, two engagements, and two pursuits but the second one, you know, he looked right at it and what was happening was mr. dorner was shooting at our game warden and put five to six shells into a fish and game chevy sill rad doe pickup truck and our warden
escaped uninjured t was a harrowing moment for him, for sure. >> the l.a. times is reporting that one of the wardens, a 35-year-old, is a former marine. is that right? >> is he a former marine and he was very proud of that fact last night. >> so he was obviously well trained to deal with a situation like this. end result, what happened? how did he get away? were your wardens armed? >> absolutely they are armed. >> and so what happened? how was dorner able to escape? >> well, what happened is, they were in a head-on situation. mr. dorner shot five to six rounds into -- into the vehicle. the wardens immediately stopped. he opened the door, he took his p308 rifle off his lap and pointed it at mr. dorner as he was driving away and unloaded his weapon with 15 to 20 rounds at the evading vehicle. >> and obviously dorner got
away. what did they do next? i assume they got in touch with other law enforcement authorities to begin this manhunt? >> right. you know, when i was in high school, a police officer told me, you can never outrun a radio and that's exactly what they did. they picked up the radio and mr. dorner rode right into the waiting arms of the san bernardino. >> how unusual is it for the fish and wildlife agency to be engaged in a fire fight like this? >> it is a little unusual. we've had three of these kind of similar situations in the last year or so but they train for this and they hope it never happens but if they do, they are ready. they weren't outgunned, they weren't outthought or outfought. >> and they are okay now, the ones that engaged dorner, they are okay? >> yeah. we had six wardens on the scene and all of them are fine and checked clear. >> that's good to hear. thanks very much, andrew hughan for joining us and thank your
wardens for us. what they did was help set in motion the final chapter in this horrible, horrible massacre. appreciate it very much. thank you. >> you're welcome. tonight at 8:00 prk m. eastern, anderson cooper will devote his entire hour to the frenzy shootout and to the victims of the l.a. cop, christopher dorner. that's coming up al 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. other news we're following, today's pushback to president obama's emotional call for restrictions on gun ownership. last night's cheers and even tears unintended consequences of government overreach. what's going on, chief -- our cnn national political correspondent jim acosta is here. you've been looking at the reaction since the speech. what's going on? >> wolf, this was a big moment last night. it may be moving votes. what was widely seen as an emotional high point, it may
have also been a turn turning point in the debate over gun control. it was a moment carefully orchestrated for maximum emotional impact. as former congresswoman gabby giffords, the parents of slain teenager hideya pendleton and other victims of gun violence looked on, president obama called for a vote. >> they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. >> one day later there are indications on capitol hill that the president may get it. >> we don't need a cheer leader. >> even as mr. obama's top republican critics, senator lindsey graham made the case that the current background checks needs to be strengthened before expanded. answered the president's call. >> will you personally block a vote in the senate on gun
control measures? >> no. i don't disagree with the president having a debate. let's vote. let's find something that we can agree on. >> the reaction was the same for gun enthesiest joe manchin. >> you won't block a vote on -- >> i won't block a vote on anything, whether i support it or not. >> that doesn't mean that the national rifle association will stop fighting. >> the president is trying to use emotion to force things through before they have been rationally debated. >> the nra released a new ad, pointing to an unpublished study from the government's national institute of violence. >> an assault weapons ban is likely to have an impact on gun violence. >> the study goes on saying the effectiveness of those checks may depend on requiring gun registration, a major turnoff for owners of firearms. when asked about the study, a department official told cnn it's not a public document and had no further comment. as for the victims' families, the debate over gun control has turned them into political experts on the issue. consider this man, whose sister
was gunned down last year, telling a senator which measure is likely to get a vote. >> universal background check, without a doubt. and i am a gun owner. i am an nra member. i'm an avid hunter. but i truly believe -- >> i hope we can do it on ammunition as well as -- >> one step at a time. >> one step at a time. as for the nra, the gun lobby's outspoken wayne lapierre is holding a news conference to respond to the state of the union speech. as for the justice department study, the nra is not saying how it it got it. wolf? >> do we expect there to be separate votes on gun control, one on the magazines, one on assault-type weapons, one on universal background checks or are they going to try to wrap it up into comprehensive piece of legislation? >> i think that's undecided at this point. harry reid is a big gun enthusiast and what that office
is saying right now whatever coming out of the judiciary committee, they are looking at an assault-weapons ban, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks will get a vote. there will be a vote on some of these measures. there will be amendments avow lowed. as for the president, he called for a vote and it looks like he'll get them. >> separate votes but -- >> he'll get votes. >> we'll see what he can achieve on these sensitive issues. jim acosta, thanks very much. president obama hit the road today. also, another day on a hot ship overflowing with raw sewage. is the end now in sight? [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...people noticed. ♪ the all-new cadillac ats -- 2013 north american car of the year. ♪
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for new spending on education and jobs. our chief analyst engineer yeah borrow injury is walking into "the situation room" with more of the fallout from the speech. clearly he's doubling down on a very ambitious agenda. >> yeah. this is a second-term president who is not scaling back here at all, wolf. he comes to the state of the union speech and second term with a lot of ambition. what we saw last night was a president who was not so much reaching out to members of congress as he was reaching over their heads to the american people. he is making a bed here through executive action, he's doing some things on cybersecurity, for example, that he can take his solutions to the problems of this country to the american people and say, i'm on the side of the middle class and the republicans are not. now, there is a risk in this for the president because the republicans are saying, you know what, americans don't want to
raise any more taxes. they are tired of the tax debate. they want to make the size of government smaller and they are going to be with us on that argument and the president says, you know what, a party that wants to survive on an austerity platform just isn't going to survive in the long term. so it sets us up in many ways for the next debate and the next presidential campaign. >> that debate is going to be intense, i must say. >> very much. >> he laid out some new, pretty costly initiatives. >> he did. >> on jobs, education, other areas. but he left out some sensitive details. >> yeah. like what is the cost of those costly initiatives? one thing that struck me last night is the one that gaurn knees that every 4-year-old child in this country will have access to high-quality preschool and no cost estimate was provided for this, wolf f and when i asked a senior administration official about it yesterday, we attended these briefings with senior administration officials. all they would say is, we're going to tell you about there is
no -- there is a significant federal investment. i did learn that it would be shared by the federal government, by the states, and also a sliding scale for parents depending on what they are able to pay. but, again, we don't know what the price tag is. great idea, what will it cost. >> the speaker, john boehner, he he reacted to the president's speech earlier today. i'll play a little clip. >> last night the president offered up more of the same. higher taxes and more stimulus spending. and just as disappointing, we're weeks away from the president's sequester and the president laid out no plan to eliminate the sequester and the harmful cuts that will come as a result of it. >> that's $85 billion in automatic spending cuts, the sequester as he calls it. >> two weeks away. >> two weeks away. i don't see any movement, bridging of the gap. >> i didn't see any movement on boehner's face last night. did you see him?
sitting behind the president, completely stone-faced, not cracking a smile at all. i asked a senior administration official about this and he said to me, look, there's a myth in washington that if these two men actually sat around a table they could get everything done and he said, that's not true. because boehner can't deliver. now, the republicans would say president obama is afraid to take on his own liberals in his own party and that's his problem. so where are we, wolf, right now? we're nowhere. that sequester, march 1, just two weeks away, and nothing has been settled. i think what the president wants to do is kick the can down the road, as he's told us, but i'm not so sure the republicans are going to go along with it. >> and then the automatic cuts go into effect. >> and some republicans say, great. >> they are not happy with defense cuts. >> some of those republicans, tea party conservatives in the house are saying they might.
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families can't wait to see their loved ones and end an ordeal that many are describing simply as horrific. cnn's david mattingly is on the scene in mobile, alabama, with more of the latest. what is the latest, david? >> reporter: wolf, there are helicopters, we're told this afternoon, delivering provisions to that disabled cruise ship. that should be enough for people on board before they arrive here in mobile tomorrow. and already family members here on dry ground are just as anxious to see this voyage end. now in it their fourth day at sea with no engine, overflowing sewage, no air conditioning and no hot water, the guests aboard the carnival triumph can't get to dry land soon enough. mary and kim got a distressing phone call from their young daughters on sunday detailing conditions on board.
>> urinating, using the bathroom in bags. >> onion sandwiches. >> standing in line for food for hours. >> they had water but it was hot. there was no air. it's so hot, mommy. it's so hot. >> traveling with their fathers, 10-year-old ali and 12-year-old becca are cruise veterans with eight trips between them. until now, nothing but good experiences. their moms drove from texas to meet them in mobile, supplied with food and, if necessary, antibiotics. but they heard from them now in three days. >> reporter: have you ever heard them that upset before? >> never. and i never, ever want to hear that again. >> not that deep, frustrating, mom, come get me now. no. the one that makes you climb barbed-wire fences and walk over hot coals to get to your kids. i have an ocean we can't cross.
>> reporter: for the 3100 passengers and 1,000 crew members, the ship is movinging a gone nizingly slow. everyone will have tone dur one more night on board before navigating the last stretch of water through mobile bay, arriving nearly five days late and almost 500 miles off course. and this is continuing to have a ripple effect on the carnival cruise line schedule. this ship will be laid up at least until april with at least 12 cruises scheduled on board that ship now canceled. wolf? >> do we know what the procedure will be once the 24 hours from now or so, once that ship reaches mobile where you are? what happens then? >> reporter: that should be the easy part here. people will leave the ship. they will be processed through this building behind me. they will find buses waiting and at that time they will have options to either go to hotel
rooms or to take their bus straight back to texas where they originally started this trip. so there's going -- there will be some decisions to make. people will decide where they want to go but the cruise ship line has already arranged for the transportation and for the flights, if necessary, for people who will be departing from here tomorrow. >> with such a horrible condition cans on that ship, david, have you heard anything about medical problems for some of those people on board? i assume there are doctors there. i wonder if they have enough medicine to deal with all these issues. >> reporter: there have been no reports today. but the city of mobile is not waiting for anything like that to happen. they are going to have medical personnel here at the docks waiting and ready to perform any sort of curse ree examinations to provide anyone any kind of assistance that they need when they get off. there's been no reports of anyone needing that, however, as
they arrive here. but that was just a precaution. we may be hearing some different stories once the ship arrives and we start talking to these passengers. but right now the city is just doing that as a precaution. >> we'll have live coverage here in "the situation room" tomorrow exactly at this time as that ship is scheduled to reach mobile. david, you'll join us as well. thanks very much. so can a drink of water make or break a political career. a u.s. senator possible presidential candidate, going to find out whether he likes it or not. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 is your old 401k just hanging around?
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with the senator made an awkward pause. there it is right there. to take a sip of water. kate bolduan traveled to get the backstory on this rising star. >> reporter: the 41-year-old senator, already labeled the republican saviour, was blunt in his official gop response to the president's state of the union address. >> his solution to virtually every problem we face is for washington to tax more, borrow more, and spend more. >> reporter: his big moment, however, overshadowed by an unscripted drink of water now deemed watergate. rubio took the moment now gone viral in stride. >> i needed water. it's a funny way of reminding us that we are human. >> reporter: that charm is one reason behind his rapid rise in the republican party. to better understand his star power, we went to his roots, west miami, be florida. his success may seem improbable.
>> my dad was a bartender. my no, ma'am was a cashier are. >> reporter: but it's no surprise to those close to marco rubio. >> he was a standout intern. >> reporter: rubio got his first taste of politics interning for iliana. >> i was a lot thinner and he had a lot more hair. but he's the same old marco. he would do anything and anything i asked him to do, whether it was getting coffee or making copies but mostly going with me to events. he was a real people person. >> reporter: soon after, at 26 years old, rubio won his first election for the west miami election and he lives with his wife and four young children. so this is where it all began, if you will? >> it is where it all began for him and for me. >> reporter: i'm sure people were wondering, was he good? >> that was his seat.
>> reporter: rebecca is considered marco rubio's gotmother. >> what makes him tick? >> sometimes people get so arrogant that they don't listen. marco listens and analyzes his surrounding. >> reporter: but it wasn't always easy. after becoming one of the youngest speakers, he was the long shot senate candidate in 2010. jose ran his campaign. >> early on the entire establishment was against marco. i think if you asked 100 political strategists from all over the country, 99 would have told you that it couldn't happen. >> reporter: and that come from behind victory launched rubio into the national spotlight. he was considered a top vice presidential contender during mitt romney's white house run. he introduced romney at the republican convention last year. >> my dad used to tell us --
[ speaking in spanish ] in this country, you're going to be able to accomplish all the things we never could. >> reporter: rubio's personal story has been a big part of his political narrative and the source of his biggest controversy to date. a son of cuban immigrants, rubio long suggested his parents fled the rule of fidel castro but they actually came to the u.s. more than two years prior. >> do i wish i had known those dates earlier? absolutely. does it change anything? absolutely not. >> reporter: still, the latin roots and credentials are a perfect combination for a party in search of a makeover and desperate to attract more hispanic vote everies. so it's fitting that rubio responded to the president in both english and spanish. [ speaking in spanish ] >> add to all that, it leaves pretty much everyone asking for
the inevitable question. what is next for marco rubio? it was clear that his hometown supporters are not setting expectations low. we came across someone holding a rubio 2016 sign. people will still be talking about his unscripted water break. >> he's very popular. we'll talk more about that coming up, by the way. he's very popular not only in miami but throughout florida. he won that contest and florida being a key battleground state, an election, he's got a huge future in front of him. he's an impressive guy. i'm sure everyone told you the same. >> i heard it over and over again. they really see him the son of that town. >> sip of water. we're going to talk a little more about that as well. kate, thanks very much. so will that moment help or hurt the senator? we're going to break it down, among other subjects coming up in our strategy session. ♪
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let's get to our strategy session. joining us, our political analyst cornell belcher. he was a democrat tig pollster for the obama campaign. also, the former bush white house speechwriter david frum. guys, thanks very much for coming in. the fact that marco rubio gets a sip of water, a big deal, little deal? it's one of the curses of doing this response to a president's state of the union. people are only going to remember that. >> it's a twitter deal. absent twitter, i don't know that the water would be a story at all. marco rubio did two things that were important. one positive, one negative. the positive is he really found a successful new tone for a republican response. this is a big country a mile away from the takers and dependence attitude.
that's very welcome. the negative thing is he was not able to introduce new ideas. this is very much a familiar republican message. but the tone is his work. the ideas are the collective work of the party so he gets an "a." the party, not so much. >> i'm going to agree with half of what my friend says. part of the reason is it was a debacle. >> what was a debacle? >> rubio's whole night. the saviour fumbled. he fumbled going into the end zone. look, he had a national audience. he goes in stylist clee. he's sweating like nixon. he goes for the water in a really awkward way which will be most remembered from this. from the substance standpoint, what of substance or new ideals did he introduce last night that wasn't a rehash of the 2012 campaign? republicans are going to have to get over the fact that the president won with more than
five million votes last time around. they've got to retool their message, the same sort of message is nothing that they didn't rehash during the campaign. >> the fact that he went for a sip of water, wiped sweat away from his head -- >> style matters. i mean, ask nixon, style matters. >> he became president. >> style matters. and he fumbled. and by the way, the message matters also. the rehashing is sort of setting up the federal government as a straw man to attack him in the same levels of attack that they used against the president in 2012 didn't work so what makes you think that it's going to work now? >> this will be a trivia question next week. the world moves very, very fast. the water, i mean. but the question about message, that's important. but that is not marco rubios move towards 2016. it's a contest between the gubernatorial wing and washington wing of the party. one thing that is striking about
the emerging 2016 lineup is the three most obvious names on that list. paul ryan, marco rubio and rand paul are all in washington. that is an unusually washington tilted field for a republican party that normally draws its presidential strength from the states. >> i was watching, you saw the president delivering the state of the union, you saw biden sitting behind him, you saw john boehner standing behind him. biden would be standing up aapplauding and be very happy but the speaker not so much. once in a while he would stand up and give a little bit of an applause, as you see right there. by and large, he was not that excited about what he was seeing. not that unusual? >> this whole thing is an excruciating performance. to see things that are edited and if not edited, at least lavishly practiced, like the convention speeches. this is the way politics used to be before there was video software and people have to sit on those stages for an hour or quarter and more and try to suppress a human reaction.
if they need a drink of water, god forbid, everybody encans lates them. >> i think he encans lated what is wrong with the image of him sitting there grim-faced as the president is laying out, quite frankly, popular things and last time it was things from his campaign, minimum wage, a cnn poll showed you that 70% thinks that the president is moving the country in the right direction. sitting there and looking mean and indifferent does not help the image of the republican party. >> i don't think he looked indifferent. this is sad about being -- everybody looks exhausted and sad. they have been trapped in that room for more than an hour before the event begins and then they have normal human reactions and, of course, every politician in that room has multiple audiences, the broad national audience, media audience, and people back home who may not be as enchanted with the president as cornell is.
and if john boehner were leaping to his fight like the audience at a justin bieber concert clapping at everything, there would be trouble back home. >> what you're talking about is a republican congress less popular than a root canal versus a president who has a majority favorable. they need to come to him and embrace his popular proposals. >> the majority of the house of representatives. >> thanks to jerry man dering, yes, they are. >> for whatever the reason, they are the majority. >> voter efficiency and not piling up super majorities which does them no good. >> they lost the popular vote more than a million votes. >> thank you. leave it to media to turn a bad guy into some kind of a hero. believe it or not, it's happening to the ex-cop blamed for the rampage, four deaths in california.
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most of us watched the crimes of christopher dorner unfold with a sense of horror but the ex-cop who went on a killing spree, developed, get this, some sort of odd fan base out there on the internet. cnn dan simon explains as even reporters were cheering him on during yesterday's final standoff. sheriff mcmahon has asked that all of the helicopters -- >> as police asked police helicopters to back off and as the cabin went off in flames, social media also lit up with users like this one crying conspiracy. so u.s. authorities have apparently burnt someone to death in a cabin and let it burn through the basement so no body is left. another user referring to the fact that dorner's i.d. was
found. come on, people, how is dorner's body burned beyond recognition but his license that he happened to be carrying? i think dorner probably killed someone and left their body in that fire while he escaped. others blasted the police. >> we're going to go forward with the plan with the burn. >> blaming them for the cabin fire. lapd was prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner yesterday. they burned him alive. apparently burning people alive is now considered appropriate behavior for the police. from the very beginning, dorner had found plenty of sympathizers. >> i just want to start off by saying that i completely support what christopher dorner is doing. >> i read this manifesto and i basically -- i believe him. >> on facebook, more than 18,000 likes for a page titled "we stand with christopher dorner."
on instagram, a rapper spoke for many when he said this about dorner's rampage. >> this was a necessary evil. god bless you, sir. >> people like anti heroes and we have a history of voting for people like bonnie and clyde and butch cassidy. >> one of the things that social media has allowed us to do is to join conversations and not be as accountable for our opinions. >> in other words, people may express things online they wouldn't necessarily say to their friends in public. others just like to be provocative. still, this user poses a question many today are asking. >> why is american showing so much support for him? >> dan simon, cnn, san francisco. coming up in our next hour, we're taking a closer look at the tactics the police did use in dorner's final standoff. stand by for that. also, an exclusive interview with a hero cop shot at least a dozen times and lived to tell about it.
>> nobody gets shot this many times. was that going through your head at all? i can't believe how many times i've been shot? >> absolutely. it's funny you say that. it's kind of silly to laugh about it. there was a point where i just thought, jesus, are you not done? how many times can you shoot someone? ♪ alright, let's go. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ we, we chocolate cross over. ♪ yeah, we chocolate cross over. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing fiber one 80 calorie chocolate cereal. ♪ chocolate. 80 calorie chocolate cereal.
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of a police officer named brian murphy. when a gunman opened fire on a sikh temple in wisconsin, brian was the first to arrive and he did not consider his own safety. he fought back until help arrived. and ordered his fellow officers to protect the safety of fellow americans worshipping inside. even as he lay bleeding from 12 bullet wounds. >> before that remarkable story last night, cnn's chris cuomo pmz sat down with brian murphy. >> i've been hit a lot. when you look down and your hands are basically shot to pieces, then you start thinking, i might be in trouble here.
>> reporter: lieutenant brian murphy remembers every one of the 15 bullets he took of what he calls a beautiful sunday morning this past august, just moments after responding to a call of shots fired at a sikh temple in wisconsin. what happened? >> i yelled stop. i saw his pistol come up, we both shot pretty much about the same time. 30, 40 yards away, maybe. i missed and he hit me directly in the chin and went down my throat and ripped apart my voice box and my larn knicks. >> reporter: his voices still damaged but there's dash cam video to tell the story. murphy confronting the shadowy figure of the killer who runs right at him, both firing. when murphy is hit, the shooter closes in. nine people were already shot, six died in a hateful act of domestic terrorism. now lieutenant murphy was in the shooter's sights.
>> that's when he hit in the back of the leg and hit the vest a couple of times and shot me directly in the back of the head just right here in the back of the skull and that was the one that kind of stopped me in my tracks for a second. >> reporter: that should have killed murphy but it was just the beginning. >> he just continued to shoot probably six to eight feet away. and then all of a sudden it got very quiet. there was no sound. there was nothing. and that was the first time that i thought i might be going out. i just felt warm and my eyes got heavy and i thought, i could stay here. >> reporter: in a life or death situation, the officer makes an amazing decision. instead of curling up to protect himself, he keeps moving to distract the gunman, a heroic move that came at great cost. nobody gets shot this many times. was that going through your head at all, i can't believe how many
times i've been shot? >> absolutely. it's funny you say that and it's kind of silly to laugh about it but there was a point where i thought, jesus, are you not done? how many times can you shoot someone. >> reporter: even when help comes, murphy waves off his fellow officers, telling them to help others first. his survival is a miracle. i've never met anybody who took 15 rounds before. you've probably never heard of anybody who took 15 rounds before. >> no. >> reporter: so why you? do you ask yourself? why was i chosen to survive? >> it's probably one of the first questions i asked, even in intensive care, was why me? i probably couldn't have lived with myself if it was one of the officers who i work with. >> reporter: part of why may have been answered when he received an invitation to be a guest of the president at the state of the union. when people see you at the state of the union, what do you think you'll symbolize?
>> i hope perseverance, i hope dedication to duty. >> reporter: his presence in the first lady's box may also symbolize the president's push for tougher restrictions on guns. >> from a societal point of view, there needs to be recognition of the fact that this is a problem. does it necessarily mean restriction? i don't know. my shooter would have passed any background check. as a matter of fact, went and bought his weapon legally. does that mean that we just give up and say we don't need to touch anything? i think what's being done is the correct thing. >> reporter: for all he's lived through, there is one thing that lieutenant brian murphy is not sure he can live with. he doesn't like to be called that word. >> if you want to call me object stan nant man of the year, i'll take it. but hero i still have a hard time with. >> reporter: you're going to get used to it because you're going to get some practice. >> okay. >> reporter: because you are exactly what we want to hold out to people as what heroic
behavior is all about. if not you, who? >> i appreciate you saying that. i really do. >> reporter: i've never been so happy to shake a hand from brooklyn before. >> thank you. and you're in "the situation room." happening now, a cruise nightmare. it's not carnival's first and this one won't end for at least another day. also, questions about the dramatic climax of the manhunt for christopher dorner. did law enforce in the deliberately burn down the cabin. and facing hard times after leaving the military. i'll talk about his future with u.s. senator bernie sanders. he's actually met him. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."
we're tracking that stricken ship in the gulf of mexico, the carnival triumph now being towed to port. what started out as a four-day cruise has become a week-long nightmare. power is limited. there's no air conditioning and passengers have reported sewage sloshing in the hallways, forcing people on deck. this picture was taken by a passengers on another cruise ship that came to help. the triumph is moving at a snail's pace, pulled by tugboats and fighting headwinds. it's now expected to arrive in mobile, alabama, in about 24 hours. and this is no small ship. we're talking about more than 3,000 passengers and another 1,000 crew members. 1400 cabins, many of them now uninhabitable because of the heat and the stench and the filth. it's a massive ship. you can see how many levels are involved.
cnn's sandra endo is in mobile for us. she's standing by. sandra, this isn't the first carnival ship that has had a big problem like this. >> reporter: no, it's not, wolf. and right now a third tugboat is on the way to help assist the triumph navigate the waters as it makes its way here to mobile, alabama. and a fourth tug is also expected to escort the vessel as it approaches here and it's expected to arrive here tomorrow afternoon. and as you mentioned, this is not carnival's first time. it had to deal with thousands of passengers being adrift at sea. how many times can carnival say they are sorry? the company's ceo apologized to the more than 3,000 passengers stranded aboard the triumph. >> we obviously are very, very sorry about what is taking place. >> reporter: in 2010, to the passengers on the splendor. >> we are very, very sorry for the discomfort. >> reporter: a year ago, an engine fire knocked out power on
the carnival's costa allegro and 32 people were killed when costa concordia crashed in italy. carnival said it did not deliver on its promise to provide a great vacation. >> we try very hard to do that all the time. it's obvious in this particular case we did not deliver on that promise. >> reporter: and some relatives of passengers are making a vow of their own. >> i promise you, none of my family members on there will probably ever, ever take another cruise. >> reporter: the triumph experienced an electrical problem with one of its alternate fors a week ago and another propulsion problem in january. carnival said those problems were fixed, passed inspection, and had nothing to do with the recent engine fire. despite all of carnival's recent troubles, maritime experts still have confidence in the line. >> unfortunately, i think with carnival this is just a bad coincidence for them that it's
happened on two of their ships in this market. i have no reason to believe that carnival is in any way not a first-class operator. >> reporter: now, if you're wondering why carnival can't just offload all of the passengers on to another ship, well, maritime experts say that's very dangerous out on open sea and in unpredictable weather conditions. lifeboats are used as a very last resort. actually the passengers are better off where they are right now. and carnival says once triumph arrives to the port here, they've canceled all future trips on the vessel through april. that means 14 future cruises are canceled. wolf? >> they've got a lot of work to do to fix that ship. no doubt about that. sandy endo. thanks very much. let's get more on "triumph's" journey. chad myers is working this story for us. very slow indeed. how slow, chad?
>> there's a headwind today. almost as long as it takes you to fly to california it takes you twice as long. it's about the tering into a 21-knot wind today. the boat that's carrying it or pulling it only does about 12 miles an hour on its own, maybe 15 full throttle. you hook up a giant boat behind it it's going to be slow one way or another. if you throw wind at it, it's going to be very slow. still 90 miles from where it wants to be tomorrow morning. the winds have been battering it from the north today and they are still battering in that direction, slowing the entire process down. they will travel through this cut, ft. morgan right there, on up into mobile bay. this is going to be a long process. it's almost 30 miles from this port up here to that buoy and they can't go very fast. the width of that channel is only 300 yards wide. all of a sudden you start moving that boat one way or the other with the wind, you're going to be running that thing aground.
they certainly don't want that. there will be a boat at the front, a boat at the front and tugboats on both sides to make sure that boat stays exactly in that channel to make it to that location tomorrow. bow going to the north, they will offload to the port side and i think everybody will be happy to get off that ship. >> i'm always amazed how a little tugboat like that can bring this huge, huge ship towards the shore. it's really amazing when you think about it. >> it is. it's called the resolve pioneer. this thing only has about 6,000 horsepower. you have to understand that the "triumph," when the engines are running, has 46,000 horsepower. the "triumph" can go well by itself but trying to pull that boat with this here is a tough go. we talked to the operators today and they said the wind has been brutal on the bow of those boats. >> and you said the weather is
not going to be a complicating factor? >> thank goodness, the wind dies off tomorrow. if they got to that channel today, with a 21-knot wind, even a little to the side, that boat could easily get pushed to a ground area where the channel is only 300 yards wide, 400 yards wide. you certainly don't want the boat to get stuck even farther. they are going to have tugboats on both sides traveling up that area for 31 miles. they can see land but not quite get off yet. >> chad myers, good explanation as always. thank you. we're going to have live coverage of the ship's arrival in mobile, interview with the passengers tomorrow around this time right here in "the situation room". the manhunt is over but the grieving continues in southern california where a funeral was held today for christopher dorner ds third victim. a veteran police officer who leaves behind a wife and two children. dorner killed a sheriff deputy
bringing his killing spree to four. miguel marquez is in san bernardino right now where this whole saga ended. what's the latest, miguel? >> reporter: the latest is that they are still trying to confirm the remains that they found in that cabin as we are trying to understand how exactly it was that christopher dorner was hiding in plain sight. >> shots fired. shots fired. >> reporter: the end of the search for christopher dorner began in this big bear neighborhood midday tuesday. two cleaners come to tidy up a house. they find christopher dorner. they are tied up, their purple nissan stolen. the house on club view drive is maybe a mile, one mile from where dorner's burned-out truck was found last thursday. even more shocking, the condo was across the street from the sand bern dean know's command center. it appears that dorner had been
hiding right under the nose of the investigators. >> if you went up the 210, the dirt road, burned his car up there, if he was coming back down through the woods, this would be the place to hide out. >> reporter: the cleaners free themselves and call 911, reporting their car stolen. the car was spotted and shots ensued. >> they were so close that they recognized his face. >> dorner crashes the nissan and escapes into the woods. within hours he hijacks a white pickup truck. >> he came up to me with his gun pointed at me. i stopped my truck, put it in park, raised my hands and he said, i don't want to hurt you. just get out and start walking up the road with your dog, which is what i did. >> reporter: two hours after the chase began, dorner abandons the pickup truck and enters a cabin. intense gunfire occurs and he's
cornered. all captured on a cell phone. two deputies hit. >> officer down. officer down. >> we have an officer down. >> reporter: one later dies, the other critically injured. police converge by land and air, then the fighting stops. dorner surrounded. police move in on the cabin. they begin tearing down the walls. >> all right. we're going to go forward with the plan, with the burn. >> we have fire. he might come out the back. >> reporter: soon afterwards, within minutes -- >> one shot fired from inside the residence. >> reporter: still unknown whether dorner had shot himself or died in the flames, some six hours after it all started, the cap bin engulfed in flames. but did law enforcement mean to burn the cabin down? this from a reporter who recorded the scene. >> burn it down. >> burn that god [ bleep ] down. >> reporter: inside, the sound
of ammunition exploding. >> more ammo going off. >> reporter: the cabin smolders for hours. 11:00 p.m., charred human remains found in the cabin, san bernardino ends its search for dorner, a long, horrible nightmare seemingly over. and we hope to have some answers to many of those questions that have been raised by everything that transpired up there on the hill in big bear shortly at 7:00 p p.m. eastern time, 4:00 p.m. local, we hope to hold a conference with the sheriff. wolf? >> do you think we'll get official confirmation of the body? >> reporter: well, we certainly hope so. given the high-profile nature of this, they have dental records, if there are scars or tattoos on the body that they can identify, then it's possible that we can get a very quick identification. they may want to do genetic identification which would take longer but certainly i would think that we would get some
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president obama back in full campaign mode today on the heels of the state of the union address, attempting to sell his proposals and keep the pressure up on republicans especially in congress. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is at the white house standing by with the latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama is inside the white house meeting with senators about immigration
reform. but earlier today he was 400 miles away. president obama took his state of the union message on the road, pivoting to jobs at an auto parts plant in north carolina. >> i believe in manufacturing. i think it makes our country stronger. >> reporter: this canadian country brought 160 jobs to the u.s. and found a town with trained workers and incentives to lure it. >> we invnovate, we adapt, lear new skills. >> reporter: many of the proposals that the president outlined on the trip are likely to run into republican opposition. $1 billion for institutes that would help bring new jobs to hard-hit areas. a $6 billion tax credit for companies that set up shop in depressed towns. and new taxes on u.s. companies that take their business
offshore. >> i need congress to do their part. i need congress to do their part. >> reporter: that's not all. he also wants to raise the minimum wage and reform medicare. democrats say the president should be ambitious. >> he's taking on a lot. >> he is. and i don't blame him for doing so. you know, when you get elected second term, you realize this is your last opportunity to have a huge impact. >> reporter: but first he needs his cabinet in place. the latest? on wednesday, the senate finance committee questioned jack lew, his pick to be treasury secretary. republicans have questioned lew's past investment in a fund that's housed in an offshore tax haven. democrats hammered mitt romney for parking his money in the same cayman islands building. so on capitol hill, chuck grassley quoted the president calling it -- glt largest tax scam in the world. >> i reported all income that i earned, all taxes due.
i very strongly believe we should have tax policies that make it difficult, if not impossible, to shelter income from taxation. >> well, there's a certain hypocrisy in what the president says about other taxpayers and then your appointment. >> reporter: wolf, jack lew has sold off long ago sold off his investment in that fund and he has been confirmed twice since doing so. so the administration is confident he will be able to be confirmed without a hiccup. the senate is expected to vote on lew in the next couple of weeks. as you know, he has spent most of his life in government service. wolf? >> he certainly has. thanks very much for that, jessica. with republicans baulking at chuck hagel's confirmation as defense secretary, harry reid filed a motion to cut off debate. it will take 60 votes to cut off
debate and move to an up or down vote on nomination. the move is scheduled for friday, barring a deal to hold it earlier. take a look at our latest cnn orc poll. when we asked whether the president's address would lead to more bipartisan cooperation, 39% said yes. 53% said no. joining us now, our chief national correspondent john king. john, does this change the dynamic in congress at all? >> that's the big question after the state of the union address. the president lays out a second-term agenda. in our poll, most of the americans who watched the speech liked the speech and boosted the president's proposal just a bit. this is how the president won a second term. 51 to 47. if you look at it from this perspective, he won a pretty convincing electoral college. 332 for obama, 206 for romney. let's come over here and look at a different perspective. last night he was in the house
chamber addressing the house and the senate. this happened county-by-county. a lot of parts of the country, if you take a look, reliably red. are those members of congress listening to the president? we have the help here of the politico report to put it this in context. 435 seats in the house. pretty lonely map here. there are 14 republicans, only 14 republicans who go home to districts carried by president obama. the rest of the republican majority, they go home to districts mitt romney won. were they listening to the president last night, were they persuadable? again, only 14 republicans go home to districts carried by the president and only seven democrats in the house of representatives go home to districts carried by mitt romney. so they might be more impacted by the president's standing of the democrats if the president is down, might worry that they have republicans. the republicans are up, 14 of them might go home and worry they have to win votes in their district. one of the calculations in the second term is, yes, the president won but especially when it gets to that agenda going through the house, most of
the red members go home to places that are rebli blee red. >> what does this do to the president's second-term agenda? >> he's trying to change public opinion. he's tryinging to put pressure on the congress. let's go through some of the issues. the president wants an assault weapons ban. if you bring that over, not only because of republicans but because of conservative democrats, the map today says no. the president doesn't get his assault weapons ban. that's the map today. we'll see if he can change it. he wants to ban those magazines with high capacity, 10, 20, 30 bullets in a magazine. that's a giant question mark. most americans say the president won't get that. the one place where there seems to be some bipartisan support, the president wants universal background checks for gun purchases. watch how this one plays out. there's a law in virginia that most people follow. will it get background checks? most have bipartisan support. what about immigration? the president didn't get into a lot of detail last night but in
his inaugural address he did. the president wants a path to legal citizenship. that's a giant question mark. one possibility, can you get legal status through the house of representatives? can can you get enough republican votes and then would the president sign that? that's one question because of the dynamic the republican control the house. remember the dreamers. these are the childrens of the illegal immigrants, young children brought into the country when they were young. there seems to be bipartisan support to not penalize those children brought into the country by their parents. he wants more tacks, more revenues to reduce the deficit. when you get over to the republicans, especially in the congress, republicans say no, we don't want to give you any more, mr. president. there's a blue question mark because many democrat don't want to do that. the challenge on this one, as you know, to get the republicans to sign on to more revenue, he has to sign deeply here.
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>> wolf, this is about how the fire got started. the police have not addressed this issue conclusively and it is likely to be the focus of a very careful investigation. audio on the ground from a cbs reporter mentioned a smoke grenade and then in the chaos someone we don't know who was heard yelling. >> burn that god [ bleep ] down. >> real-time police audio was preserved and the second guessing started immediately. though we don't know how the fire started, to the untrained ear, after authorities concluded they have someone in the cabin in the woods, it sounded to some like they could have intentionally set fire to it to smoke out the suspect. >> we're going to go. we're going to go forward with the plan, with the burn. >> about 23 minutes later, an early reference to burners being deployed. >> control 61. lincoln. seven burners deployed and we have a fire. >> copy. seven burners deployed and we have a fire.
>> a former u.s. marshal and expert on fugitive apprehension told me that, based on the audio, he does not believe that authorities on the scene tried to burn down the house. >> at that point it could just be bravado but there's no operating plan that calls for tompl torching a home to get a suspect out. >> it was once used as slapping for teargas canisters, though police no longer use gas that can catch fire. >> obviously we want to gas the individual out of the house. they are noninsend rather ree type devices so they wouldn't have are any possibility of catching the house on fire. >> does it sound like the authorities, the deputies, the police did anything wrong? >> i don't -- at this point, no. i don't think they did anything wrong. >> the final word come could co from a final autopsy. a corn row ner has a good chance of deciding if he was.
>> dies from inhalation of the smoke and toxic products. so we look for soothe down into the airways. we look for carbon monoxide in the blood and those are the indications of someone who is alive in the fire and if you have enough of those poisons, basically, somebody who died from the fire. >> some law enforcement experts say the way this played out was predictable, that dorner had expected to go out this way in the proverbial blaze of glory. the question was whether he would be shot by someone, for example, a police officer, or if he would shoot himself, wolf. >> lots of questions. i'm sure the investigation will continue, precisely what happened. thank you very much for that report. let's dig deeper with our cnn contributor, former cia director, tom fuentes. i'm going to play some clips from the police scanner.
listen to this. >> 61 lincoln. guys be ready on the number four side. he might come out the back. >> ready. >> sounds like one shot fired from inside the residence. we have ammo exploding inside the house. >> is there any propane cylinders or anything that we need to worry about? >> not that i can see from my position. >> do you want to have the fire put out once the roof starts to collapse? >> affirm. give me some time here. we're not quite there. i still have the two-three corner that is vulnerable. >> and we still have ammo going off in the fire. >> tom, can you make some sense out of what we just heard? >> wolf, it's actually very difficult to make sense of it. you have -- you know, we don't know the exact time line of the beginning of the operation to the end and i'm not certain how this fits into the whole picture. we'll probably know more from the sheriffs later but i don't
know if they will want to talk about it so soon after the event. i will agree it's not a normal command. i've been in contact with many of my colleagues who are also tactical commanders and at the state and local level as well and they are just not familiar with this type of plan being used this way. but that doesn't mean that the sheriff may not have a good explanation for deliberately setting the fire, if they did. now, i'm speculating, but one possible explanation would be that they may have wanted to start the fire at one corner in order to flush him out the opposite corner and then have those s.w.a.t. team members be the ones that would engage in a firefight and not have all of the police officers that were surrounding this location all be shooting at once, there foreshooting at each other in a crossfire. that's a possible explanation. we'll need to hear from the sheriff if that's what is
occurred. >> how troubling is it, if it is troubling, that this man was in this area for days right under the thumb of the san bernardino police. >> i think it's very troubling. you know, the questions that i would have is going back to the very beginning of the incident at that location, they find the truck last week burnt, they search, we thought they were searching every residence that had people in it as well as the abandoned shacks and cabins and now we're getting some mixed information that they may not have bothered to search places that were residential homes occupied or unoccupied. that doesn't make sense. also, you have, you know, every police department in southern california, southwestern united states at the state, federal, and local level would be offering automatically offering the sheriff all of the
assistance they would need. they were saying at the beginning of last weekend that they only had a little and i don't know what the justification would be, what led them to absolutely know that they could go ahead and scale that back. now they learn in hindsight that he was holding hostages quite literally right under their nose. i think that's a difficult explanation, why the sheriff wouldn't have accepted all of the assistance being offered and you wonder if they had a lot of 6-year-old child on that mountain, how many police officers might have been used to look for him. here you have a dangerous killer that's murdered people already, vowing to murder more and it doesn't sound like it was the most intensive manhunt that there could have been. maybe there was more to that than we realize. i know it was bad weather so they couldn't use aerial assistance last weekend during
the heavy snowstorms so that would have meant the need for more ground personnel to actually do these searches and go door to door. i don't understand that lack of using the assistance at the beginning. >> there's going to be a news conference, we're told, at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we'll carry that. tom fuentes, thank you for that. anderson cooper is devoting his entire hour at 8:00 p.m. hour. the navy s.e.a.l. that allegedly took out osama bin laden. and bernie sanders is standing by live in the situation room.
the first interview with a former navy s.e.a.l. who says he killed osama bin laden is raising serious questions about how the federal government treats veterans. this american hero is, quote, screwed, because he gets no pension, no health care, no protection for his family. but that isn't exactly true. >> there is five years of health insurance, free health insurance you can get from the v.a. i mentioned that in the story. but he wasn't aware of it. because there's no communication. the v.a. itself complains about this, that the d.o.d., department of defense, does not communicate with these vets that there are resources available for you. >> joining us to talk about this is the independent senator of from vermont, bernie sanders. he met with this reported bin laden shooter this week.
>> it was interesting. >> do you believe that he was the man who actually kill canned bin laden? >> i suspect so, yes. >> you do? he was convincing to you? >> yes. >> so what was the basic problem that he has? because by all accounts, he killed bin laden, who was responsible for killing 3,000 americans. he should be treated a lot better than he apparently is. >> actually not. what we want to make sure is that every veteran in this country, all of whom put their lives on the line to protect america, get the benefits that they are entitled to. what he has done is put a spotlight on a very serious problem. we're going to do a hearing on this next month. and that is, wolf, we've got hundreds of thousands of veterans who have not gotten their claims processed in a timely manner. >> whose fault is that? >> that's a combination of factors. the good news is that, as a result of the decisions made by the united states government, we have said to seld ders who served in vietnam 40, 50 years ago, that you are not entitled
to insurance because of agent orange. we have opened up the process to people who otherwise would not have gotten the benefits. the bad news is, that that number of people coming into the system has caused a backlog. further more, the v.a. is actually processing more claims now than they have in the past. but so many more claims are coming in. not just from iraq and afghanistan but from vietnam and elsewhere, other wars, that that has caused the backlog. last point, the v.a. is working very aggressively and i hope that they are going to be successful in creating a paperless system which would be much more efficient than the current paper system that they have. >> because the author of this article suggested that this individual, the man who reportedly killed -- he didn't know he was even eligible for medical benefits because nobody at the veterans administration told him. >> well, i can't speak to that case. but this is the issue of outreach is a whole other issue. >> communications?
>> yes. telling -- look, the truth is, that in terms of patient satisfaction, the v.a. is high up than any other medical hospital system in the country. they do a very good job. the bad news is that there are a lot of veterans out there who do not know what they are entitled to. that is an issue we're going to work on. there's a new program which says that when you are leaving the military, you are going to go out into the civilian world, you have got to get the training, get the information so that you know what you're entitled to. >> you said in a statement, it is simply not acceptable for any veteran to wait many months or years for the benefits that they are entitled to receive. >> absolutely. >> so how are you going to fix it? you are the chairman? >> we are working with the v.a. right now. they have instituted a paperless system which will greatly expedite the process. they are rolling that out right now. so we are going to stay right on it. if you are a veteran and you apply for a benefit, it is
absolutely unacceptable that you wait years to get that benefit or many, many months. so we're going to see that we speed up that entire process. >> he served 167 years. >> yep. >> in the u.s. navy and navy s.e.a.l., obviously an heroic, young man. didn't serve the 20. should there be an exception made so he can get pension made? he didn't serve the 20 full years. >> that's an interesting question. we did discuss that. and i think it's an issue we want to look into for people like navy s.e.a.l.s. i mean, these guys are not just soldiers. these guys carry -- i mean, imagine the stress involved in taking out bin laden. and they do this type of work all of the time. they don't get much break. they are training, they are in missions. they are not home with their family. might we look at a small group of people who are working extraordinarily hard under great pressure in a different way than we'd look at the general veteran population? i think it's something worth
looking at. >> last night you remember the president said -- and i'll just quote him from what he said during the state of the union address. we will keep faith with our veterans investing in world class health care, for our wounded warriors, supporting or military families, giving our veterans the benefits, education, and job opportunities they have earned. great talk. is he walking the walk? >> i've been critical of the obama administration but in terms of funding for the v.a., they have been very, very generous. the president understands that many of our hero coming home from iraq and afghanistan are coming home with ptsd, tbi, and we are appropriating the resources that we need to help address -- >> what is tbi? >> tra ma'am particular brain injury and to help us deal with these very difficult issues, not to mention we have the older veterans that are also going to need help. we have a moral obligation to make sure we provide the benefits to all those who served our country and we do it in a timely way. >> senator, thanks very much for coming in. good luck. >> thank you. imagine saying good-bye to
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some u.s. sailors scramble to make major changes in their lives, even said good-bye to their children. now they're being told, not so fast. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara star is joining us. she's got details. what's going on, barbara? >> wolf, this is all about the budget politics in washington. it's been one of the major topics in the capitol, but out with the fleet, it is young military families that are already feeling the pain. for petty officer third class chastity peralta, washington budget politics has hit hard on
the deck of the aircraft carrier "harry s. truman." >> i moved everything i own into storage and i signed over cust custdy of both of my children. >> this navy mother did that because the ship was supposed to leave last week for eight months in the middle east. the children were sent to live with their fathers. >> i cut off my cell phone bill, canceled everything i had, and moved on to the ship. >> reporter: but the navy suddenly changed course. the "truman" will stay put, saving millions of dollars during the budget crunch. it means one carrier, not two, in the middle east, leaving sailors left in port scrambling. >> i'm not going to take my children back and pull them out of school and, you know, unsettle their lives. >> reporter: petty officer second class natasha anderson also sent her son to live with family members. now she needs to find somewhere to live. >> currently, i'm staying on board the ship. when i lost my apartment, i wasn't able to get it back.
>> reporter: another carrier, the "uss abraham lincoln" is parked right next to "truman." its fate is also on the line. "lincoln" is supposed to be going into dry dock for the next four years, for more than $3 billion in planned maintenance. but until there's a budget agreement, there's no money, so the carrier is sitting. >> every month that we delay getting in is a month it will take us to get out. it's not like we've built extra time into this availability. >> reporter: the delay will ripple through the navy's fleet-wide repair schedule for years. the chief of naval operations warns the service is not crying wolf. >> we will not be able to respond in the way the nation has expected. >> some congressional critics think the navy is up to, in their words, drama with all of this. drama or not, it is military families, wolf, as we said, that are beginning to feel the pain. wolf? >> all right, barbara, thank you. we're also hearing for the first time from the pope about his decision to resign.
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before leading an ash wednesday mass. >> translator: i have done these in full freedom for the benefit of the church, but i have prayed for a long time and i have examined before god my conscience, fully aware of the gravity and seriousness of such acts. >> cnn's max foster is joining us now from rome. what kind of response, max, did the pontiff receive? >> i have to say, it's been a really emotional day here in rome. i spoke to lots of people coming out of that audience today. it was meant to just be an average weekly audience, by it certainly wasn't that. it was the first time he's spoke since he resigned. that news has settled in now and people are now responding to that. they want you to give a sense to the pope that they were very grateful and there was a huge cheer we entered that audience in the morning. and when they came out, they were generally emotional. then you have the large mass that pope benedict will reside
over in st. peter's basilica. it wasn't meant to be there, but the crowds were so big, they moved it into there. it was meant to be in a smaller space. and it was a spine-tingling service. people were absolutely gripped by it, not just because they're always spectacular services in there, but because this is one of the last times he will be in there as pope. they haven't got their heads really around this idea, that a pope can resign. but the news is sinking in, i think, wolf. >> max foster, watching what's going on for us. we'll stay in close touch. thank you. and happening now, new details on a killer ex-cop's final standoff with police. the moves that apparently led to his death. also, horror stories aboard a crippled cruise ship, another 24 hours of unbelievable filth. some are jokingly calling it water, yes, watergate.
did the awkward moment undercut senator rubio's message last night? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." burn it down! shoot the gas! >> get the gas! >> burning gas. burning gas! >> the shouts of police in the frantic moments when a fired cop's war of revenge went down in flames. 24 hours later, there are still many questions about the shoot-out, the fire, and the apparent death of christopher dorner. it will take days, officials say, for investigators to officially identify the body found in that burned out cabin. after four killings, lapd police officers won't let their guard down too much, until they're
absolutely sure that dorner is dead. cnn's brian todd is at the scene of the final standoff in big bear, california. >> reporter: wolf, as investigators continue to try to confirm that the body in that charred out cabin is christopher dorner's, people in this area are still reeling from what he's believed to have done here over the past several days. more than two hours' drive from where christopher dorner's troubles began, law enforcement officials say the former l.a. policeman terrorized a rustic mountain community in his final hours. near big bear lake, rick says he was carjacked by dorner, who he says came out of the trees and confronted him as he checked on a property. he spoke to nbc's "today" show. >> he came up to me with his gun pointed at me, and i stopped my truck, put it in park, raised my hands, and he said,on want to hurt you, just get out and start walking up the road and take your dog, which is what i did. >> reporter: a california fish and wildlife official tells us they believe dorner was driving a stolen car as he shot at two
of their wards as he passed them, damaging their vehicle. others in this area also crossed dorner's house. it was in this group of houses that dorner encountered a couple cleaning one of the house. he tied them up and stole their car. this was right across the street from one of the law enforcement command posts and a very popular ski resort. at bear mountain resort, where hundreds of skiers and snowboarders gather every day, one of the managers said people had been living in fear for days knowing that dorner was in the area. >> some of the employees that work around here, they were feeling the vibration, it was scaring them. they had their guns loaded, sleeping with their guns. >> reporter: caitlin had come to celebrate her 17th birthday on the slopes. she says, just as the news broke that dorner was moving close by -- >> i found out when my mom actually called me, crying, like coming to get me. i don't know, it was kind of scary knowing he was just right there. >> reporter: her mother, pam,
drove to big bear, frantic to get her daughter out. what was going through your mind at the time you were driving up here? >> to get here as quick as possible and not cry. because i knew how scared i was. and when i called them, they were really scared, because they seen all the activity close to the slope. >> reporter: carter evans, a reporter for a local cbs news affiliate, was just a few yards away when the final gunfight broke out. his station got exclusive video. we spoke to evans' wife, whose friends were calling and texting during the standoff. >> it was really scary. i was frozen in the kitchen for a good 30 minutes and just trying to get in touch with him. i was thinking, oh, my gosh, am i going to be a single mom? >> reporter: neither carter evans nor his photographer were allowed to speak to us on camera, but the photographer told me off-camera that bullets were whizzing by their heads during that final gunfight and he thought he might not make it out of there alive. wolf? >> brian todd on the scene for us, thank you. police blame christopher dorner for four deaths, two of them, law enforcement officers.
bagpipes played as the officer, michael crain was laid to rest in riverside, california today. thousands attended the funeral. he was ambushed in his patrol car a week ago where another officer was wounded. kate balduan is here and she's watching another important story involving a carnival cruise nightmare. >> definitely a cruise ship nightmare, wolf. that's absolutely right. boats and helicopters are bringing new supplies to the carnival "triumph." the crippled ship is expected to finally dock no mobile, alabama, tomorrow, four days after a fire broke out in the engine room. passengers say conditions on board are disgusting and getting worse by the hour. cnn's david mattingly is at the port of mobile. i'm sure, david, preparations half to be underway for all of these passengers to finally be
reaching solid land. >> reporter: that's right. city officials just a short while ago saying that they are prepared to greet these passengers when they arrive here, prepared to help in any way. they're also prepared to help family members who are coming here to greet them before they have a chance to go to hotels or to flights to get back home. so right now, a great deal of anxiety, both on that ship and here onshore. now in their fourth day at sea, with no engine, overflowing sewage, no air-conditioning and no hot water, the guests aboard the "carnival triumph" can't get to dry land soon enough. mary and kim got a distressing phone call from their young daughters on sunday, detailing conditions on board. >> urinating -- you know, using the bathroom in bags. >> onion stand witchwachb sandw. >> standing in line for food for
hours. >> reporter: traveling with their fathers, 10-year-old allie and 12-year-old are cruise veterans with eight trips between them. until now, nothing but good experience. their moms drove from texas to meet them in mobile, supplied with food and if necessary, antibiotics. but they haven't heard from them now in three days. >> reporter: have you ever heard them that upset before? >> never. >> no. >> and i never, ever want to hear that again. >> not that deep, mama, come get me now, you know, no. the one that makes you climb barbed wire fences, and everything, just walk over hot coals to get to your kid. we have an ocean i can't cross. >> reporter: with the more than 3,100 passengers and 1,000 crew members, the trip to shore remains agonizingly slow. tugs moving the ship a mere 5 to 8 miles per hour. everyone will have to endure one more night on board before navigating the last stretch of
water through mobile bay, arriving nearly five days late and almost 500 miles off-course. and already, carnival officials say they're canceling the next 12 cruises aboard this particular cruise ship, so that they can take care of repairs and whatever else they may need to do here. federal government also anxious to start their investigation into what happened, why the fire started that started this whole problem at the very beginning. >> yeah, you can be sure everyone wants to know the results of that investigation. david mattingly, thanks very much. a very exciting day for many people coming up tomorrow. >> and kate, carnival cruise lines has just announced it's paying passengers for their trouble, an additional $500 each. carnival's president saying, and i'm quoting now, we know it has been a longer journey back than we anticipated at the beginning of the week, under very challenging circumstances. we are very sorry for what our guests have had to endure.
therefore, in addition to the full refund and future cruise credit already offered, we have decided to provide this additional compensation. i look forward to welcoming everyone to mobile tomorrow and have mobilized our full resources to assist and support them as they travel home. remember, 3,143 guests are on board that "carnival triumph." we'll have live coverage of the arrival here in "the situation room" tomorrow. it's supposed to arrive right around 4:00 p.m. eastern. we're also hearing a lot of the typical partisan reaction to the president's state of the union address. the question now, is there any room for compromise, especially on one of the most emotional issues? we're talking about gun control. a key republican is suggesting the president may get the vote he's asking for. here's our national political correspondent, jim acosta. >> reporter: wolf, it was a big moment that might move some votes. what was wildly seen as the emotional high point of the president's state of the union
speech may have also been a turning point in the battle over gun control. it was a moment carefully orchestrated for maximum emotional impact, as former congresswoman gabby giffords, the parents of slain teenager, hadiya pendleton, and dozens of other victims of gun violence looked on, president obama called for a vote. >> they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. >> reporter: one day later, there are indications on capitol hill, the president may get it. >> we don't need a cheerleader. >> reporter: even as one of mr. obama's top republican critics, senator lindsey graham, made his case that the current system of background checks needs to be strengthened before it's expanded, he answered the president's call. >> will you personally block a vote in the senate on the gun control measures? >> no, let's vote. i don't disagree with the president to have a debate. let's vote. let's find something we can agree on.
>> reporter: the reaction was the same from west virginia democratic senator and gun enthusia enthusiast, joe manchin. >> but you won't block a vote on -- >> i won't block a vote on anything, whether i support it or not. >> reporter: that doesn't mean the national rifle association will stop fighting. >> the president is trying to use emotion to force things through before they've been rationally debated. >> president obama gives a good speech. >> reporter: the nra released a new ad, pointing to an unpublished study on preventing gun violence from the government's national institute of justice. >> an assault weapons ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence. >> reporter: the study goes on to question proposals for universal background checks, saying the effectiveness of those checks may depend on requiring gun registration, a major turnoff for owners of firearms. when asked about the study, a justice department official told cnn, it is not a public document and had no further comment. as for the victims' families, the debate over gun control has quickly turned many of them into political experts on the issue. consider this man, whose sister
was gunned down last year, telling a senator which measure is likely to get a vote. >> a universal background check, without a doubt. and i am a gun owner. i am an nra member. i'm an avid hunter. but i truly believe -- >> i hope we can do it on ammunition as well. >> one step at a time. >> as for the nra, the gun lobby's outspoken ceo, wayne lapierre, is planning to hold a news conference in tennessee tomorrow to respond to the president's state of the union speech. as for that justice department study, the nra is not saying how it got it. wolf? >> jim acosta, thank you. the stage is set for a senate showdown over the president's choice to be the next defense secretary. republicans have been trying to delay a full senate vote on chuck hagel's nomination. but the top senate democrat filed a motion today to end the debate and clear the way for confirmation. our chief congressional correspondent, dana bash, is here. dana, what are you thinking? is this a hurdle or is chuck
hagel in real trouble? >> reporter: well, you know, kate, our jessica yellin is covering the white house, she's hearing from administration officials that they think that eventually hagel will be confirmed. but i talked to a senior democratic source who said that in the senate, they just don't know yet if they have those 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. chuck hagel's opponents are not going down without a fight. >> am i supposed to sit on the sidelines and be a good, compliant republican and just let this administration not account for what i think is a national security breakdown of monument aal proportions? >> reporter: from day one, lindsey graham was a leading critic of hagel on his past positions on everything from iraq to israel. now, graham and others are threatening to block hagel for defense secretary, using him as leverage on a completely different issue. they want to know if the president called libyan officials the night of september's benghazi attack to ask for help for americans eventually killed.
how do you respond to critics who are saying that you're just moving the goalpost. first it's about hagel's past and about what he said, and now it's about -- >> i'm going to take every opportunity. i'm not denying -- >> you are moving the goalpost? >> no! i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you, absolutely. you're not going to get away with not answering basic questions. >> reporter: john mccain, who had said that he would not go along with the hagel filibuster is reversing course, saying he too wants answers about benghazi before letting hagel go through. >> it's the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been filibustered. what a shame. >> reporter: all this a day after the armed services committee approved hagel's nomination on a party line vote, amid biting accusations. >> have you been paid directly by a foreign government? >> reporter: republican ted cruz demanding to know if hagel accepted money from speeches from foreign countries that oppose u.s. interests.
>> it is at a minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from north korea. and i have no evidence to suggest that it is or isn't. >> reporter: democrats lit into cruz. >> that senator cruz has gone over the line. he basically has impugned the patriotism of the nominee. >> reporter: even mccain, opposed to hagel's nomination, said cruz went too far. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee, at any time, should impugn his character or his integrity. >> reporter: now, the senate armed services chairman, carl levin, says he actually expects the white house to give senators mccain and graham the answers they're lacki inlooking for on president and benghazi, but administration officials say they're still deliberating on whether to do that. and what all this means, wolf,
is that a nomination that the white house knew would be really bumpy, is really uncertain at this hour. but i can report from jessica yellin that hagel has no intention of withdrawing his nomination. >> and dana, you'll remember, hagel during his confirmation hearing, he was widely criticized for offering a very poor performance. is that playing into this at all? or are they just using this as an opportunity for a completely different issue? >> reporter: that's a very good question, kate. because you know that when there are former members of the club, the senate, like john kerry, who sailed through, because he had a lot of support here, and had a lot of deep friendships. john hagel -- chuck hagel, rather, doesn't have that. he doesn't have the support, obviously, of his former fellow republican colleagues and tepid support, i think, from many democrats who are trying to do what they think is right for the president, but were very shocked and not very happy about his performance at that hearing. >> we're waiting and watching and seeing if this confirmation will be held up and how long. dana bash on capitol hill.
thanks, dana. reading a teleprompter on live television isn't always all that easy. i know, i do i every single day. and we also get thirsty from time to time. i get thirsty all the time as well. so here's a question, why are people on social media sites saying stuff, making such a fuss about marco rubio's now-famous grab for a bottle of water. excuse me. i'm getting a little thirsty here. >> oh, wolf! >> you know, sometimes you get thirsty. >> i know. >> we'll take a closer look at marco rubio. he is a rising, rising star in the republican party -- excuse me. mm. >> going to break. suddenly, she does something unexpected
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i'm marco rubio. >> reporter: the 41-year-old senator already labeled the republican savior was blunt in his official gop response to the president's state of the union address. >> his solution to virtually every problem we face is for washington to tax more, borrow more, and spend more. >> reporter: his big moment, however, overshadowed, but an unscripted drink of water now deemed watergate. rubio took the moment gone viral in stride. >> i needed water. what am i going to do? it happens. it's a funny way of reminding us we're human. >> reporter: that charm is one reason behind his rapid rise in the republican party. to better understand his star power, we went to his roots, west miami, florida. his success may seem improbable. >> my dad was a bartender. my mom was a cashier. >> reporter: but it's no surprise to those closest to marco rubio. >> marco always was what superstar. he was a standout intern.
>> reporter: rubio got his first taste of politics interning for florida congresswoman illeana ross latenen. >> i was a lot thinner and he had a lot more hair. but it's the same old marco. marco would do everything and anything that i asked, and willingly so, whether it was getting coffee or making copies, but mostly going with me to events. he was a real people person. >> reporter: soon after at 16 years old, rubio won his first collection, for the west miami city commission. the community he grew up in and still lives with his wife and four young children. so this is kind of where it all began, if you will? >> it is where it all began for him and for me. >> i'm sure people are wondering, was he good? >> he was excellent. that was his seat. >> reporter: rebecca sosa is a longtime friend and considered rubio's political godmother. what makes marco rubio tick? >> sometimes people get so arrogant that they don't listen. marco listens. marco sits with people.
marco analyzes his surroundings. >> reporter: but it wasn't always easy. after becoming one of the youngest speakers of the florida state house, he was the long shot senate candidate in 2010. jose ran rubio's campaign. >> early on, the entire establishment was against marco. if you were to ask a hundred political strategists from all over the country, 99 of them probably would have told you that it couldn't happen. >> reporter: and that come-from-behind victory launched rubio into the national spotlight. he was considered a top vice presidential contender during mitt romney's white house run. he introduced romney at the republican convention last year. >> my dad used to tell us. [ speaking foreign language ] in this country, in this country, you're going to be able to accomplish all the things we never could. >> reporter: rubio's personal story has been a big part of his political narrative and the source of his biggest
controversy to date. a son of cuban immigrants, rubio long suggested that his parented fled the rule of fidel castro, but they actually came to the u.s. more than two years prior. >> do i wish i had known those dates earlier? absolutely. does it change anything? absolutely not. >> reporter: still, those latin roots and his conservative credentials are a perfect combination for a party in search of a makeover and desperate to attract more hispanic voters. so it's fitting rubio responded to the president in both english and spanish. [ speaking spanish ] >> add to all of that, rubio is taking a leading role on the latest push on immigration reform. it leaves many folks asking the inevitable question, what is next for marco rubio? well, we're spending some time in west miami, it was clear that his hometown supporters are not setting expectations low. we even came across a man holding a rubio 2016 time in town. maybe a little early for those
signs to be going up. >> maybe not. i think he's got an impressive future. he's a very smart guy. >> we'll be following him. >> thank you. we saw some real raw emotion in the house chamber last night, when the president urge congress to vote on gun control. >> we sure did. during his state of the union address, the president pointed to one of his special guests to help him make his case. >> we should follow the example of a police officer named brian murphy. when a gunman opened fire on a sikh temple in wisconsin, brian was the first to arrive, and he did not consider his own safety, he fought back until help arrived, and ordered his fellow officers to protect the safety of the fellow americans worshiping inside. even as he lay bleeding from 12 bullet wounds. and when asked how he did that, brian said, that's just the way we're made. that's just the way we're made.
>> cnn anchor chris cuomo sat down with lieutenant murphy in an exclusive interview before the president's speech. >> i have been hit an awful lot. when you're on your belly and you look down and your hands are basically just shot to pieces, then you start thinking, i might be in trouble here. >> reporter: lieutenant brian murphy remembers every one of the 15 bullets he took on what he calls a beautiful sunday morning this past august, just moments after responding to a call of shots fired at a sikh temple in wisconsin. >> what happened? >> i yelled, stop! i saw his pistol come up. we both shot pretty much about the same time. 30, 40 yards away, maybe. i missed and he hit me directly in the chin and it went down my throat and ripped apart my
voicebox and my larynx. >> reporter: there's dash cam to tell the story. murphy confronting the shadowy figure of the shooter. when murphy is hit, the shooter closes in. nine people already shot, six died in a hateful act of domestic terrorism. now lieutenant murphy is in the shooter's site. >> the shots hit me in the back of the leg and hit the vest a couple times and he shot me directly in the back of the head, right here in the back of my skull, and that was the one that kind of stopped me in my tracks for a second. >> reporter: that should have killed murphy, but it was just the beginning. >> he just continued to shoot, probably 6 to 8 feet away. and then all of a sudden it got very quiet. there was no sound, there was nothing. and that was the first time that i thought i might be going out.
i just felt warm and my eyes got heavy and i thought, i could stay here. >> reporter: in a life-or-death situation, the officer makes an amazing decision. instead of curling up to protect himself, he keeps moving to distract the gunman, a heroic move that came at great cost. nobody gets shot this many times. was that going through your head at all? like, i can't believe how many times i've been shot? >> absolutely. it's funny you say that, and it's kind of silly to laugh about it, but there was a point where i just thought, jesus, are you not done?! i mean, how many times can you shoot someone? >> reporter: event when help comes, murphy waves off his fellow officers, telling them to help others first. his survival is a miracle. i've never met anybody who took 15 rounds before. you probably never heard of anybody who took 15 rounds before. >> no. >> so why you? do you ask yourself? why was i chosen to survive? >> it's probably one of the first questions i asked, even in
intensive care was, why me? i probably could have lived with myself if it was one of the officers who i work with. >> reporter: part of why may have been answered when he received an invitation to be a guest of the president at the state of the union. >> reporter: when people say you at the state of the union, what do you think you'll symbolize? >> i hope perseverance. i hope dedication to duty. >> reporter: his presence in the first lady's box may also symbolize the president's push for tougher restrictions on guns. >> from a societal point of view, there needs to be recognition of the fact that there is -- this is a problem. does it necessarily mean restriction? i don't know. my shooter would have passed any background check. as a matter of fact, went and bought his weapon legally. does that mean that we just give up and say, we dona't need to touch anything? i think what's being done is the
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shelia, thanks so much for calling in. i really appreciate you joining me. i mean, this must be so scary for you and your family. parisa has just graduated from college, but you have not heard from her since monday. what was the last you heard from your daughter? how did she sound? >> she sounded very, very concerned about the sanitation situation. she was really upset at what was being told by carnival to us was not what was going on. she said that there was no running water. there was no plumbing. they had to stand in line for three hours for water. that they had to urinate in the shower. she says, please, please, call someone. call cnn and ask them to please, please send someone out to see what's really going on. >> the poor thing. i mean, she's there with nine other friends.
i mean, what have they been doing to fill their time as they've been stranded out there? >> well, what she's been doing with her friends, they have managed to go back and forth from the deck and to one of their friends that had a suite, and all ten of them have been going back and forth. the main thing that she was so concerned with was the sanitation. she says that it was like hurricane katrina. that there was just no -- nothing was as it should be. >> and clearly, i mean, there has to be health concerns on board. i mean, we hear that there's going to be medical assistance at the port when they finally reach land at the port in alabama. are you concerned about her health? >> i'm concerned about everyone's health. i'm a nurse. and it is a big health issue and it's just, it's not right, it's not safe, it's not healthy.
when we questioned carnival about it, they said, well, there's medical people on board, but that wasn't the issue. the issue was skirted around. it was unsanitary. again, i haven't spoken to her since monday evening, but she was adamant about me calling and letting people know. and that's why i called the coast guard, trying to find out information. i sent e-mails to y'all, to see if y'all could send someone to board the ship. so it's just a major health concern. >> and as a mother, i'm sure this is a horribly helpless feeling that you have, as your daughter is stranded out there and you have no way of even communicating with her at this point. if you had the chance to speak directly to the head of carnival cruise lines, what would you say? >> i would just say, be transparent. say from the very beginning what was going on. telling the families that everything was fine, no one was
injured, that they had plenty of food and water, that wasn't the truth. you know, tell us what was going on. accept responsibility for it and just make sure that they are -- their health is the main concern. the safety. that's all. >> as we understand, there's going to be wofbl, an investigation to really what happened in this -- on this ship, but i think the only thing you probably care about is finally seeing your daughter's face when she reaches dry land tomorrow. shelia, thanks so much for calling in. we look forward to hearing how your daughter is doing. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> of course. >> bye. >> we're going to have live coverage, by the way here in "the situation room" tomorrow. that ship is supposed to arrive in mobile around 4:00 p.m. eastern. we'll speak with the passengers, crew members, as they're getting off that ship tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern, "the situation room." meanwhile, the mayor of newark, new jersey, cory booker, he is outraged about a video
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times as he cringes in pain. >> take off your -- >> reporter: the assault last august just surfaced on youtube, getting tens of thousands of hits. at least three men curse, berate, and humiliate the victim over a $20 debt owed by the victim's father. the brutality drew sharp words from newark mayor, cory booker. >> this is not who we are. we are newark, new jersey. we do not tolerate this level of cruelty, of callous disregard for the dignity of humanity. we do not tolerate this viciousness. we do not tolerate this kind of evil in our community. >> reporter: the video was recorded by one of the attackers and also posted on the urban website, roll worldstarhiphop.com. no one stepped forward to report the assault. >> this crime in august was not
reported. no one called 911. >> reporter: three men have been arrested, including the one whose heard identifying himself by the street name, doggy dog world. >> all three of the persons that were arrested, all three of the males, do have gang affiliation and are in our gang database here in the city of newark. but the name that he was using, that doggy dog, is a street name that he uses, not the phrase that we would typically be. >> and not a gang specifically? >> no, not specific to any one gang. >> reporter: the suspects are being charged with robbery, aggravated assault, and maybe possible cybercrimes for recording the incident. newark's mayor, who seemed visibly outraged by the assault, the belt whipping and water spraying, called on the newark the community to overcome its fear and stand up. >> you are either condoning that violence through your apathy, through your lack of involvement, or you are fighting against that injustice. >> reporter: the victim was fearful of retaliation and never
came forward. police say he ultimately cooperated and has since left newark. now, one of the suspects turned himself in on tuesday night. the other two were arrested and charged, only after being identified on the video. all remain in custody. but very chilling wiand clearly wolf and kate, the implications of a young african-american stripped and whipped in broad daylight, it's chilling and that's what the mayor was responding to. >> hope he follows up on that. it's horrible. deborah feyerick, thanks so much, deborah. >> so we're standing by for a news conference that's coming up soon, so stay tuned right here in this after the fiery, final standoff with the fugitive excop, christopher dorner.
we're standing by for a news conference on the christopher dorner investigation. let's go to the scene. brian todd is standing by. set the scene for us. >> we're waiting for more information as officials work to confirm this could be a remains of christopher dorner. listen to an announcement here, the police are announcing they're about to open this road. this may get us a little bit closer to where that burned out cabin is. probably not right up to it, but maybe a little bit closer. they're making that announcement now as we speak. still a very heavy law enforcement force here on this mountain range and although officials have not yet confirmed that the remains are the remains of christopher dorner, a palpable sense of relief on this mountain range today. you talk to merchant, citizens, they are very relieved this appears to be over, but again,
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