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sparked this national debate over your privacy. now the man with access to all of your secrets may be on the run. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> this is the truth. this is what's happening. >> this former cia employee says he knows much more than he revealed. how long can he hide? >> at that point you know something is not right. something is very wrong. doctors saving an infant's life with super glue. plus, a high-profile oncologist accused of spiking her lover's coffee with poison. and mystery in room 225. weeks after a couple dies in a best western hotel, an 11-year-old boy found dead in the exact same room. and let's get started on
this monday afternoon. good to be with you. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin with from going rogue to going public. the man behind the nsa leaks has revealed who he is and why he exposed the documents to put the national security agency exactly where it never wanted to be, smack dab in the public spotlight. here he is, edward snowden asked the british newspaper "the guardian" to public his name. he talked to the paper, told them over time it got to them knowing the nsa was tracking ne nearly every call made by americans and monitoring the online communications of foreigners. "the guardian" recorded an interview with this man who was just 29 years old. >> because even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded. and the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude to where it's getting to the point you don't have to have done anything wrong.
you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer. >> that was just one sliver of the interview. we'll play you bits and pieces throughout the course of the next two hours. "the guardian" reports he had been making $200,000 a year as a government contractor working for the nsa and he copied this highly secret information and then he fled straight to hong kong in may. he may still be there, but not in the hotel room where he grant ed that interview because cnn has learned a man by the name of edward snowden left hong kong's mirror hotel today. so wherever he may be, snowden knows how to stay off the grid.
i want you to listen how, this is quote being a recent article in "the guardian the" he lined the door of his hotel room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping. he puts a large red hoot over his head and laptop when entering his pass words to prevent any hidden cameras from detecting them. snowden is reportedly a high school dropout who grew up in north carolina. he told "the guardian" he believes he will never be in the u.s. again, and he fears much more than federal prosecution. >> i could be, you know, rendered by the cia. i could have people come after me or any of their third-party partners. they work closely with a number of other nations or they could pay off the triads. any of their agents or assets. we have a cia station just up the road. at the consulate in hong kong. i'm sure they're going to be very busy for the next week. and that's a fear i'll live under for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be. you can't come forward against the world's most powerful
intelligence agencies and be completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries that no one can meaningfully oppose them. if they want to get you, they'll get you in time. >> and we'll get you straight to the hero/traitor debate in just a second. first, we have to go straight to the white house to our correspondent there, dan lothian. white house daily briefing taking place. obviously questions about snowden and the nsa going straight at carney. what's he saying? >> reporter: well, it was the very first question he was asked. jay carney being very careful not to say too much. he did make a little bit of news in pointing out that the president had been briefed by his senior staff on the latest developments in the snowden case. but when he was asked to give any kind of reaction from the white house, he deferred saying this is something that is under investigati investigation. but what he did talk about is that the president had been talking quite frequently and most recently just last week
about finding that balance between national security and privacy and something the president welcomes the debate. he reiterated that again today. we heard the president talk about this whenever he's asked about whether or not the united states is doing too much, going too far in terms of trying to gather information, whether it's the recent controversy with verizon or other new developments where information was being gleaned from the web, the president had acknowledged that there needs to be this balance between privacy and security and, again, that he welcomes the debate. that's the word from the white house today as well, brooke. >> do you think when he speaks in a matter of minutes about this staff change that there is any chance the president will address this publicly? rp as you know, this is the second time we've seen the president. he was at an event earlier this morning at 11:30 at the white house. he did not address this issue. no one asked him a question about it. he does have this personnel announcement happening this afternoon. we do expect that in that
setting perhaps someone will ask a question. at this point, though, no indication from the white house that the president plans to comment on this. the word from the white house up to this point is that this is under investigation. as you know the justice department has launched an investigation, everyone looking into exactly what happened here and what the next steps should be but, again, at this point no indication that the president plans to address that today. >> we'll be watching as i know you will, dan lothian. thank you so much, from the white house this hour. now to the debate, is edward snowden an enemy of the state or a hero of the people? as dan mentioned, the department of justice is just now beginning its investigation of the former computer tech. no charges yet, but at least one congressman is calling snowden's actions criminal. >> it's not so much he said that's untrue. again, this person is dangerous to the country. there are real questions as to why he left the cia. the fact he's in china right
now, or hong kong, a substate of china. he knows where our intelligence assets are, our intelligence agents are around the world, and the fact he has let known is dangerous. he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i consider him to be a defector. >> a defector says congressman king. with me is syndicated columnist and radio host. gentlemen, welcome. david, i go to you here off the top. how do you view what snowden has done? >> i think we should be most concerned with what snowden has disclosed in terms of our constitutional rights. people who want to turn the conversation to the person who disclosed this are people who either don't care about the united states constitution and the fourth amendment or who want to protect the political interests of the national security administration and the obama administration. i think what should concern all americans first and foremost is were is the united states
government in what could be a potentially criminal and illegal and unconstitutional way spying and surveilling millions and millions of americans on an ongoing basis. and i think any effort to change the conversation away from that, that potential crime against millions and millions of people and, too, a question about the person who has disclosed the crimes, is an attempt to say people who expose potential crimes are the real criminals. it's an attempt, in a sense, to create an orwellian definition of crime. >> you talk about the fourth amendment and i want to get to that. a yes or no from you, david. do you see him as a hero? >> look, i think we have to find out all of the disclosures whether they were done properly, whether they were done with national security in mind. but i think that whistleblowers in general, we need them and they are heroes. >> general, you disagree. >> i do. look, the presumption of david's comment is that the u.s.'s
activity in terms of national security is a crime and that what this young man has revealed is a crime. that is not the case at all. in fact, we have a big problem if the justice department, the executive, and the judicial all are now kind of rogue and moving down a path that we cannot trust. the real issue in my mind is you have this young man who has the very highest security clearance, and he broke the rules. he doesn't have the right to do that. if he disagrees with the program that he was a willing participant in, he needs to step away, you know, stop doing the squo job, stop taking the paycheck, drop the security clearance, and then he also has some nondisclosure issues because he's had exposure to this information. but he has a right at that point, he has every legal protection in the world to raise his hand and say, look, let me discuss this in terms that i can and tell you what i am thinking as a private citizen.
he can't do that when he's totally embedded in the program, which he was. >> let me play this for our viewers, a little bit more of this "guardian" interview where he said he could be revealing more and could have sold the information he has. >> if i had just wanted to harm the surveillance system in an - afternoon. but that's not my intention. i think for anyone making that argument, they need to think if they were in my position and, you know, you live a privileged life. you're living in hawaii, in paradi paradise, and making a ton of money. what would it take to make you leave everything hyped? >> and now he has. and david, to your point, the concluding argument you make in your salon piece the u.s. government asked americans when they see a possible crime being committed, what do they say? see something, say something. and your point is that he did
exactly that. >> that's right. the director of national intelligence james clapper went before congress and perjured himself and said mass surveillance wasn't happening in the united states when he was asked a direct question. the same thing for the head of the nsa. at one level you could argue that someone like edward snowden saw these officials perfect injuring themselves before the united states congress and went forward with information in one of the only ways that he could to call out blatant crime. you can find that videotape. it's out there. you can see james clapper lying to congress. and if we're going to have any chance of congress actually regulating the nsa, them we need to make sure that information comes out so congress knows when it's being lied to by obama administration officials and the nsa. >> general? >> well, i'm not going to respond directly to david's comment. these are really outrageous comments that he's making. >> what's outrageous about it? what's outrageous about it? james clapper went before
congress and said there is no mass surveillance on the united states. >> the fact of the matter is this young man has been given great privilege, as he indicated. and now we're supposed to hold him up as a great savior of the nation because he didn't reveal all. frankly, he didn't have the keys to the kingdom. he was a very significant piece because of the clearance. he has a very significant access. and he has -- he's a very significant piece of this overall apparatus that exists to try to protect our national security. this isn't blatant data mining. this is traffic analysis, pattern analysis, that entities talk to entities. and there are relationships among those entities. it doesn't get into the content of that data. and if there was a u.s. scitize involved or the presumption that there was a u.s. citizen involved in this, you would have to go to the fisa court to get a court order to mine that data very, very specifically. and that's not the case here. >> gentlemen, we will leave it here. also what we find fascinating
when you look at a couple of folks in recent history leaking, they're all millennials. it will be fascinating so stay tuned for that. as we mentioned at the top of the hour, happening now, live pictures from the white house. we are watching and waiting for the president who is set to nominate jason fuhrman to chair the council of economic advisers to replace allen krueger. he has served as a key economic adviser since the beginning of the obama presidency. again, i talked to dan lothian, our correspondent there wondering, watching to see if the president at all addresses the story of the day, if the president makes comments on this nsa scandal, we will listen. we'll bring it to you live. go to cnn.com. jury selection is under way in the george zimmerman trial and the mood in the courtroom is intense to say the least. can they find an impartial jury? live to florida where sonny
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heart of this trial of injure juror. you know the story. he is the neighborhood watch volunteer who killed florida teenager trayvon martin. jury selection is under way right now and the court is searching for six jurors and four alternates. george zimmerman's brother talked to the media just a short time ago. >> i think it's important that jurors get to know that george is a real person. he's not just whatever images people flash across the screen or whatever narrative people write about. >> meantime, trayvon martin's family released a statement saying in part, quote, we are seeking justice for our son and a fair trial. tr trayvon's life was taken unnecessarily and tragically, but we call upon the community to be peaceful. we have placed our faith in the justice system and ask the community do the same. let's go to sanford to cnn legal analyst sunny hostin. let me begin with the all-important jury selection process. how do you find impartial jurors
for a story like this? >> reporter: i think you certainly aren't going to find a juror that has never heard anything about this case. there's been just such extreme media attention on this case. i don't think, brooke, that means you can't find an impartial jury. you can still find someone that can put all of that aside, all of the coverage aside, and just sit in the courtroom and listen to the evidence as it comes in and then make a decision. and that's what these attorneys are looking for. they are certainly not looking for anyone that's been under a rock that hasn't heard anything about this case. and i have to tell you, i think it's pretty possible. they are moving at a fast clip. i told you before, brooke, this is a quick moving judge. they've already had 100 jurors fill out questionnaires. i just left the courtroom to come and chat with you and the judge said, okay 0, let's make some agreements so we can bring in some jurors and start questioning them one-on-one, and so it is moving rather quickly in the courtroom. >> the one thing we were wondering today why six? it seems like a small number, does it not? six jurors, four alternates?
>> yeah, that's a great question. it's a question i had when i first started covering this case. in florida 12 jurors are required for capital cases. for noncapital cases only six. it's unique to the florida statute. we had more especially for a criminal trial. that is why only six and that's why, brooke, i think this jury selection is going to take really a short amount of time. we're not talking about trying to find 12 jurors and perhaps four or five alternates but ten in total. >> we'll be watching the trial with you, sunny hostin. coming up an international con artist who managed to fool celebrities and members of the wor world's elite swindling millions of dollars in a scam involving justin bieber tickets. do not miss this special cnn investigation. [ female announcer ] think all pads are the same? don't.
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his then business partner to show off the invention. >> waleed is apparently a celebrity in norway. they call him the mark zuckerberg of norway. >> reporter: and then there are all these photos. >> this is another picture he sent me. >> reporter: famous people from royalty to rich business leaders. >> we have waleed ahmed here, toward the back, kofi annan here, ted turner. crown prince and princess of norway. >> reporter: and this letter of thanks from barack obama for whom he claimed to be the norwegian election chairman. not only did he brag that he knew and posed for pictures with people like the queen of jordan, he sent out photos of himself with well-known people like former u.n. a.m. bmbassador and young and martin luther king iii. so to weinberg, it wasn't a stretch that this young genius could be managing the scandinavian concert tour for none other than justin bieber.
it all started with the call weinberg received from a good friend in the music industry. >> he said that he had come across an opportunity through his group, and he runs in circles down in los angeles that are legit. >> reporter: weinberg was told about this young kid named ahmed. >> waleed claimed to have paid, according to the contracts, $4.5 million. are for the rights to five shows in scandinavia. >> reporter: they handle bieber. so it all started to sound real to weinberg. >> weinberg was asked to invest a million dollars. with $8 60,000 going to ahmed so he could secure venues. the rest went to two california management companies that ahmed brought in to prepare for the concer concerts. legitimate looking contracts followed. >> i was told that i would get a percentage of the ticket sales
and the ticket sales were significant. i mean, it could be 10x return on my money. >> reporter: so you thought you could have gotten $10 million for your $1 million investment? >> that was conceivable. >> reporter: in his e-mails ahmed was reassuring writing, the most important thing for me is that everything is clean. and based on a relationship. were you suspicious at all? >> i was suspicious in the beginning. and, as a result, i had a lot of various stipulations that i needed. i needed a lot of answers to my questions. >> reporter: and ahmed apparently had no problem providing them. the team met last august at this burbank, california, restaurant. >> he was prada and gucci head to toe. he was arrogant but also he was a nice guy, but he also had a bit of an edge and an arrogance to him. >> reporter: weinberg thought the meeting was impressive. one of the people he met that day was the 2011 miss finland
who was going to promote the bieber concerts. to further convince weinberg, ahmed had a conversation call with a top member of bieber's management group. but it wasn't long before things started to unravel. >> we start getting kind of word from norway from one of our contacts there i think the justin bieber tickets have gone on sale and have sold out. >> reporter: and these were the tickets you were preparing to sell? >> absolutely. and we're thinking, that's impossible. >> reporter: there were never going to be any tickets. it was all a con job orchestrated by waleed ahmed. weinberg was frantic. he calls the fbi. ahmed had flown back to norway where he posed for these photos and then made what would be a fateful choice. he flew back to san francisco for one more meeting with
weinberg. at this san francisco restaurant weinberg, now wired by the fbi convinced ahmed to talk to him about the bieber deal. this is where the end game began. this is the exact spot where todd weinberg sat with his hidden microphone looking directly into the eyes of the man who stole his million dollars. ahmed gave weinberg a sob story, that his life was ruined, and then added he was going to start over. not in norway but in pakistan. >> i'm thinking there's just no way i'll see this kid again. he'll be gone. my money is gone. it's over. >> reporter: the fbi made the decision, the time had come, one day after the restaurant meeting waleed ahmed came here to the airport for a flight 0 to amsterdam and if he's to be believed a flight to pakistan. just before he boarded the plane, he was arrested by the fbi. a spokesman says scooter brawn
has never heard of him and never has cnn founder ted turner. the former miss finland says she had no idea what ahmed was up to, either. martin luther king iii says he vaguely remembers getting his picture taken with ahmed but does not the know him. as for andrew young who met him at a u.n. foundation gathering in norway, he says he's shocked at what became of who he believed was a rising star. >> he use mid contacts for things i didn't know about. the first i heard from this was when he had been arrested and his lawyer called me and told me what he had been charged with. and my first reaction was there must be some misunderstanding. >> reporter: but there is no misunderstanding. today ahmed has traded louie have i ton for prison garb. he confessed to the fbi that he set up fake websites and e-mails
to pull off the elaborate justin bieber con. he refused to talk to cnn. todd weinberg, at least for now, hasn't gotten any of his money back. >> it's all that i've got to not get on an airplane and visit him in prison and just sit across from him and just ask, why? why would you do this? >> i am furious for him. i'm sitting here, you know, asking you questions through the piece. was his face photo shopped in the pictures? obviously he met all those people. he fooled them. >> it's a crazy, nutty story. it proves anyone in the world no matter how rich or successful you are, can be conned if you have a good con man doing it. >> tomorrow, sentencing hearing. >> it is scheduled for tomorrow morning. todd will be there to make a victim impact statement. he's furious with ahmed who he's glad he'll be facing him face-to-face. the government is asking for eight years in prison for ahmed. his attorneys will be asking for
18 months. hey, he pled guilty, give him 18 months. the fbi says it's uncovered some e-mails ahmed sent from jail to a friend and in these e-mails he says he's done this before. once he gets out of jail he plans to do it again. and they say in the e-mails he says he's furious at the u.s. government for lock iing him up and the u.s. government will pay for this. >> wow. we'll find out what happens to him whether it's 18 months or eight years. gary tuchman, appreciate it very much. coming up, it is one of the biggest intelligence leaks in u.s. history. >> itch the authorities to wiretap anyone. >> edward snowden identifies himself and the surveillance program. but who is this guy? he's a 29-year-old. how do agencies like the cia and the nsa screen the people hired to do this classified work for them? un ♪
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"the guardian" newspaper says he is the ex-computer tech who leaked the government that showed the u.s. government is not only spying on your phone calls but tracking the online communications among foreigners. snowden knows just how much he has put himself on the line here because he is now on the run, last seen in hong kong in a hou hotel room. he gave this interview to "the guardian." shows his face, the whole deal, about why he outed the actions of the nsa, the national security agency. here he was. >> the nsa specifically targets the communications of everyone. it ingests by default. it analyzes them and measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that's the easiest, most efficient, and most valuable way to achieve these ends. so while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government or someone they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting
your communications to do so. any analyst at any time can target anyone. any selector anywhere. where those communications will be picked up depends on the range of networks and the authorities that that analyst is empowered with. not all analysts have the ability to target everything. but i sitting at my desk certainly have the authority to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even a president if i had a perm e-mail. >> here is more. he is a high school dropout, never finished community college. he's a former army and former nsa security guard, and he used his skills for the cia which he left in 2009. his last job was working with hamilton at the nsa in hawaii. and one final detail, he is 29 years old, a millennial, a generation known for its independence, its questioning of authority when it turned out to
two human behavior experts, int interrogator and psychologist wendy walsh. welcome. you think of bradley mannings of the world and the wikileaks case who is also young, both mill millennials and this is not a reflection on this generation but it's interesting. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i think it is a reflection on this generation and a very interesting reflection because in some ways he falls into what statistical probability would say mill ep i millennials do. they are digital natives and are born from, what, like the late '80s into the 2000s. they tend to be digital natives. they tend to fiercely want to protect sort of freedom of the internet and they believe the intern internet itself can be self-regulating. but it's interesting here that he's concerned about privacy and about government intervention. every kid today has to read 1984 in high school and i'm wondering
how much of his ideas come from this thinking. >> as a profiler, if you or the nsa and you're hiring someone fluent in this sort of technology, 20-something, who will have high-level access to classified information, what are you looking for in a person? >> well, there's two different ways to look at this. if you are directly employed for the nsa as a government employee, there is one basically filtration hiring process that you follow and it's a much more involved process. from my understanding he is contracted to work for the nsa, and that's a different process. yes, they do a background certificasearch on these individuals and at times they do submit them to a polygraph, but the background is not as extensive as if you were directly employed by the government agency itself. >> what about there was a report that the nsa deliberately hires introverted people. i'm curious in terms of just behaviors. what does one tend to look for?
>> well, i think with this particular individual, they looked at his skill set, and he had a very savvy, advanced fluency in technology. that's what their key thing is and they're monitoring conversations. they're assessing the technology that's going back and forth between e-mail and phone conversations and a lot of that you have to be focused and be able to focus on your job. you're not really interacting with human beings. you're essentially behind a computer and listening to communication at all times. >> wendy, when he talks about this, when you listen to this entire interview, he had a great job. he was living in hawaii making something like $200,000, had a girlfriend, you know, and felt, as he sort of said, so compelled to get this information out there, which was better for the american public. how do you read that? >> well, his belief system was all about freedom and protecting
people. it's actually wrong to say he doesn't have a high school diploma. he earned a ged at community college. and he actually is a veteran. he fought in the iraq war and joined the military because he said he wanted to free oppressed people. but then he felt his commanding officers were all about killing arabs, quoting "the guardian" here. and he didn't feel that's why he was there. he was there to free people. i think it's about his personal ideology about freedom and whether this is part of what all millennials think, we don't know. they are starting to think more globally than nationally and governments don't like that. if there are big populations of young people who think of themselves as world citizens rather than citizens of a particular country, they're harder to control. >> when wendy talks about this personal ideology, basically they're looking for a smart guy with a pretty stellar tool set in terms of technology. but is that something you can even interview for? can you look for that as a
possible red flag? >> you can if it exists prior to the hiring process when you are starting to filter that person, but it can, and i do agree with her it can form and happen over the years while you're doing your job. perhaps you have some type of moral conflict with what you are being asked to do which in this case it seems it happened and you develop these internal feelings and then you make that determination of how you want to handle it. and this is the path he chose to take to respond with his moral conflict. >> wendy walsh and evyenia, thank you very much. much more on this story as cnn's special "traitor or hero: inside the nsa leak." watch for that on cnn. the story out of north carolina, this woman and her son found in this hotel room, the mother unconscious. this little child dead. police there aren't saying ex t
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this is the very same hotel room where an elderly couple was found dead in april. we have the story from north carolina. >> reporter: for the second time in as many months police cruisers, fire trucks, and ambulances surrounded the best western hotel in boone. this time rock hill 11-year-old jeffrey williams was found dead. his mom, jeanne williams, unconscious. they were in boone to pick his sister up from camp and when they didn't show up family sent police to check their room. >> this is the same room where we did have two individuals found decease thed'back in apri. >> reporter: police tell us they don't know what's going on but in a news release say, quote, we've been able to determine there is no danger to the public. we spoke with jeffrey williams' uncle, darryl. he told us jeanne williams is doing better, that she just came out of a medically induced coma,
but isn't sure what happened to her and doesn't know her son has died. he also told us, quote, he was killed by the hotel and the problem is we don't know what it was. >> fire and hazmat teams ahong with police investigators are trying to figure out what happened. >> reporter: police tell us they're doing testing but still have no answers. darryl williams said the hardest part is not knowing what happened. >> michelle bowden reporting. coming up, chad johnson showing up for court for a plea deal ends up getting 30 days in jail because of a little something he did in the courtroom that the judge was not too happy about. what did he do? we'll tell you next. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant. a mechanical engineer. and i shop at walmart. truth is, over sixty percent of america shops at walmart every month.
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playfully slapped his lawyer on the back side. the judge not amused. >> is there something funny about what's going on here to y today? >> no, ma'am. >> the whole courtroom laughed because you just slapped your attorney. i don't think anything is funny about it. this isn't a joke. >> i didn't do it as a joke. >> everybody in the courtroom was laughing. i'm not accepting these plea negotiations. >> the judge sentenced johnson to 30 days in jail prompting this tweet. quote, love me through the good and the bad because i'm gone. love you regardless. see you in 30. coming up, he carried out his rampage dressed in black armed for war. now we're learning much more about what led this suspect to a college campus to kill. both ma have hail damage to their cars. ted is trying to get a hold of his insurance agent. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment
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>> at that point you know something is not right. something is very wrong. >> doctors saving an infant's life with super glue. plus, a high-profile oncologist accused of spiking her lover's coffee with poison. and he carried out his rampage dressed in black armed for war. now much more about what led this suspect to shed blood on a college campus. the man behind the nsa leaks has revealed who he is and why he did this. why he exposed the documents to put the nsa where it never wanted to be, smack dab in the public spotlight. his name, edward snowden. he asked the british newspaper
"the guardian" to publish his name. he told the paper over time it just got to him knowing the nsa was tracking nearly every phone call made by americans and monitoring the on line communications of foreigners. "the guardian" report recorded an interview showing his face and everything with this man who is 29 years of age. >> when you see everything, you see them on a more frequent basis and you recognize that some of these things are actually abuses and when you talk to people about them, in a place like this where this is the normal state of business, people tend not to take them very seriously and move on from them. but over time that awareness of wrongdoing sort of builds up and you feel compelled to talk about it. and the more you talk about it, the more you are toll it's not a problem until eventually you realize that these things need to be determined by the public not by somebody who was simply hired by the government. because even if you're not doing
anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded and the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude. to where it's getting to the point you don't have to have done anything wrong. you have to eventually fall under suspicious from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made. every friend you've ever discussed something with. and attack you on that basis to sort of derive suspicious from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer. >> snowden talked to "the guardian" from a hotel room in hong kong. but his whereabouts right now not known. he could still be in hong kong. maybe not. snowden said he has no regrets, but the paper said the one thing that made him tear up was fear. fear over what his family will have to go through. let's go straight to brian edto
in ellicott city, maryland, where his mother lives. you've been there knocking on doors talking to neighbors. what have they told you? >> reporter: they say they're shocked, brooke. shocked at what happened to this family. i spoke to a neighbor here at his mother's complex. his mother, elizabeth snowden, also known to friends and associates as wendy snowden. she is completely shocked about this. described the family as being very nice, very personable. she always says hi to elizabeth snowden when she goes to work and she is just very worried about the neighborhood, what may happen to elizabeth snowden the mother and at least one of edward snowden's siblings. we're told he has a sister who lives and works in the broader d.c. area but overall just some bits and pieces we're finding out about edward snowden and about his family. we just were on the phone with an official with anne arundel county schools. we did confirm he went in anne arundel county, maryland. that he went to high school for
about a year and a half before he left that system. from various reports including "the guardian" and elsewhere it's apparent he did not get a high school degree. it's unclear whether he went back and got a ged or something equivalent to that. at least at the outset he did not get a high school degree. we have confirmed his mother who lives here, elizabeth snowden, is a top clerk official in the u.s. district court in baltimore, maryland. her title is chief deputy clerk technology and administrative services. so a technology background does sort of run in the family. edward snowden in his interview with "the guardian" newspaper fears the repercussions and said one or more members of his family work for the u.s. government. we have now confirmed his mother works for the u.s. district court in baltimore, maryland. so that does check out on that end, brooke. he did say he's concerned about this. the man who interviewed him said his ties to his family are now severed. and to his girlfriend are now
severed. we tried to reach his girlfriend's father in nearby laurel, maryland. we were not able to reach him. >> we'll be following your reporting throughout the course of the evening and see what you get for us. brian, thank you. the justice department is just beginning to chip away at the preliminary investigation of the former computer tech. no charges as of yet. and the fbi has just begun searching snowden's home, his computers. but at least one congressman is calling edward snowden's actions criminal. >> so much that he said is untrue. again, this person is dangerous to the country. real questions as to why he left the cia. the fact that he's in china right now or in hong kong, a substate of china, he knows where our intelligence assets are, where our intelligence agents are around the world. the fact he has allowed our enemy to know our sources and me methods is extremely dangerous.
i think he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i consider him to be a defector. >> so what now and how do you go about tracking down someone who is an expert in keeping secrets? to a former cia officer and a form former cia operative. welcome to both of you. bob, look, the debate is raging on whether he is a hero or a traitor. tell me what is going on behind closed doors at the cia. >> they're using the same methods that he revealed to go after him. right now, i can assure you, they are looking at him as a potential agent of a foreign country, maybe china. the question is why did he go from the united states to someone who is in counterintelligence terms considered an enemy and that's china. there's no other way to look at it. hoppi hong kong, chinese intelligence controls it. did he cut a deal with the
chinese? these are all questions they're going to get to as quickly as possible and what did he take with him when he left? we still don't know. >> just bouncing off the idea that he did go to hong kong. again, he may have left. we don't know. what are the benefits in going to that geographic location? >> well, of course, in hong kong he might have the ability to avert or at least deter an early arrest or capture of him. a lot of people are horrified to see what the government was doing as an overreach but he had other options. he could have gone to the senate select intelligence committee, he could have told people that it was a problem that was going on. but, instead, he goes to china? a gigantic problem with this. >> a very big problem with what he's done. terrible judgment. even if he's not an agent of a foreign power, he demonstrated arrogance and stupidity at what he's done. >> this is how he told "the guardian" he's trying to stay off the grid. he lined the door of his hotel
room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping, he puts a large red hood over his head and laptop to prevent any hidden m cameras from detecting pass words. how quickly and how easily will they find him? >> it's going to be very fast. they can search the databases, the e-mails and the rest, what kind of contact he had, who he was calling before. give us a wider net. you just have to look at this as a counter intelligence problem, the fact he went to china and every tool at the government's disposal will be brought out and they will find out what his connections were. >> he also talks -- i want to play one more sound bite where he talks about revealing what he knew if he could have revealed more. let's play that. >> anybody in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that i had could suck out secrets, pass them on
to russia. they always have an open door, as we do. i had access to everyone working at the nsa, the entire intelligence community. but that's not my intention. >> so, gary, what's to say he wouldn't reveal more? >> well, you know, we don't know he won't reveal more. we don't know what he's taken as bob correctly stated earlier. concerned about what did he take out of there, what did he bring out with him. look, he might be an intelligence guy with technology but he's not an officer, probably doesn't have the human skills to last long on the ground. we'll see. i can assure you as bob stated, they will be in pursuit. i would suspect we will see mr. snowden back in the united states in front of the federal district court. >> how does the cia keep track of former -- whether they're employees or in snowden's case former contractors?
>> well, they don't do it as a matter of course. they expect people to treat their security clearances seriously in their contract with the government. he has committed a felony, as gary said. he has broken the law in no uncertain terms. he's not daniel ellsbury. he is not expose d to crime. he is exposed sources and methods which you just can't do especially when it comes to intelligence. i don't agree with the overreach either. i can see why some people think he is heroic. he should be tried for it. >> thank you so much. tonight at 6:00 we're going to have an entire hour dedicated to this notion, this cnn special traitor or hero inside the nsa leak. stay tuned to cnn for that. coming up, a 13-minute rampage, five people shot and killed. and now we're learning more about the stuntman who opened fire, including mental issues he had just a couple years ago.
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five people were killed in the 1 13-minute rampage. 26-year-old franco died from her wounds just yesterday. she was shot in an suv that her father was driving, carlos, her father, was also killed in that attack. the suspected gunman identified here as 23-year-old john was killed by police at the college library. he allegedly murdered his father and brother and then set their home on fire before the shooting spree began. a woman who tried to stop his carjacking attempt was also shot several times and she lived to tell her tale. >> i will never forget his eyes. they were just so intense and so cold. i laid down just thinking, please stop, please stop shooting. thinking if i acted like i was dead he might go away.
>> he had some mental health issues in the past according to a law enforcement, source. i want to talk about that with wendy walsh, bringing her back in live from los angeles with me. and, wendy, i was reading this law enforcement source familiar with the investigation told cnn that this suspect had been hospitalized -- this was a couple of years ago, treated for allegedly talking about harming someone. my question is, if you are committed to a hospital, how closely are you watched after you're let out? >> not really at all. i mean, the law is pretty clear that you have to be an imminent danger to yourself or others. and what that gets you is the 72-hour lockdown where they put you on meds and get you stable and let you out again. now, remember, if you are under the age of 18, you can have your parents fighting for you, but if you are over the age of 18 and considered an adult, then we are allowed to be free to be insane
and mentally ill without help. >> so an imminent threat. we don't know, it's not quite, quite clear if he committed h himself or if his family committed him. but in order to be committed you have to prove this individual is a threat? >> right. so, therefore, a therapist might be able to report, someone else could report, but you have to be an imminent danger to yourself and someone else because we want to protect the freedoms of people. so the question is, how are these people allowed to gain access to guns really? if you've ever been committed, i don't know where the law stands on that. i think it varies state by state. >> the objevious question is ho did he get a gun, the question law enforcement is asking. we don't know that yet. as we just mentioned, wendy, we mentioned newtown. six months this weak. the whole mental health debate and gun in terms of legislation didn't get anywhere. just from your own opinion, what will it take for this to change
when it comes to mental health? >> well, i think more and more shootings aren't helping. brooke, they are making us more numb. i have to tell you that the santa monica shooting happened ten minutes away from a fund-raiser where the president was. i'll tell you personally it happened in my neighborhood and the big blue bus, the santa monica big blue bus shot out and people were injured on would have been the bus my high school teenager was on except she was on a field trip. so it's that close to home, yet i kind of went, okay. next? because it starts to make you numb after a while. >> and that is part of the policem problem, i should say. self-defense or murder? the trial of george zimmerman. he is charged with killing 17-year-old trayvon martin in a case that has gotten national attention. you have family members today on both sides holding very public appearances. are they trying to win over the public? and could what they say impact potential jurors? that's next.
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was it murder or self-defense? that is the crux of this crime of george zimmerman. he is a neighborhood watch volunteer who killed florida teenager trayvon martin. and the jury selection is under way today. the court is searching for six jurors and possibly four alternates. george zimmerman's brother talked to the media just a short
time ago. >> i think it's important jurors get to know george is a person, not just images people flash across the screen or whatever n narrative you write about. >> trayvon martin's family also spoke today. >> we are relieved that the start of the trial is here with the jury selection. we seek justice for our son, trayv trayvon, and we seek a fair and impartial trial. we ask that the community stays peaceful as we place 0 our faith in the justice system. and we ask that the community does the same. >> hln's ryan smyth joins me now to talk a little bit about this. my first question is about that. we're hearing from both sides, both families often talking to the media. today in a news conference just about at the same time, ever see anything like that? >> yeah, we see the conferences at the same time is a little bit
rare. it could be for a number of reasons. then talking to the media both sides have been vocal about this case, so it doesn't surprise me both are stepping up to the mike trying to make their thoughts clear on the first day of jury selection because everybody wants to know what's going through your mind at this point. so they're just trying to answer those questions. >> okay. so then you have the defense, the prosecution. they are trying to find six jurors, right, who can sift through this whole thing and just walk me through the process. how does that work? >> they go in -- all these jurors got this notice in the mail, these potential jurors. they go into court and all filled out a jury questionnaire. that happens in some of the big cases like this one. they fill out that questionnaire -- >> questions like? >> have you seen anything about this case? what do you know about this case? can you be fair and imparlgs? your name, address, a lot of different stuff. sometimes they're short, the conrad murray case was 20, 30 pages long. so after that process, then once they start winnowing down the numbers they bring in a group of 20 or so into the courtroom and
each one gets questioned individually. that's where we are now. everybody is getting those individual questions. what we're hearing already, the prosecution is very broad about it, asking what did you know about this case? did you hear, did you see anything? the defense is very narrow for good reason. if you heard or saw something, what did you hear? one juror just stepped up and said i heard about this case, something about a kid in a hood and a guy on neighborhood watch. that's a critical distinction. there are certain words they don't want like self-appointed neighborhood watch. also, george zimmerman alleged that he was going to the store that day, that he wasn't on watch. so the defense is trying to get to what do these people actually know, the details for consideration on whether they strike them or not. >> ultimately they pick six? four alternates. and then once that happens, do we even know how long that would take? >> it could take days. they're moving -- i have to say this, they're moving really fast. >> this is a tough judge. everything is in order. >> i like this judge because this judge is efficient. she wants to move this along. they're moving very, very quickly. we've seen cases like the casey
anthony case where it takes longer though belvin perry was efficient. it's moving fast. it could take days. i would say this week. but you only need six and a couple of alternates. >> this florida law and it's not a capital case, we thought six, that doesn't seem like a lot. >> six jurors. that's why in casey anthony you saw 12 and now you see six. 2-4 alternates. the judge could ask for more but i would be surprised. >> ryan smith will have much more legal analysis of the court cases of the day weekdays, 10:00 p.m. eastern time on our sister station hln. now to this, in his own words, the man behind the nsa leaks explains why he exposed documents revealing classified information about u.s. intelligence. >> i sit at my desk certainly
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possibly even your trust in it. his name, edward snowden and "the guardian" newspaper says he is the ex-computer tech who leaked the document that showed the u.s. government is not only spying on your phone calls but tracking the online communications of foreigners. snowden knows just how much he has put himself on the line because he is now on the run, last seen in hong kong. in a hotel room he gave "the guardian" this interview on camera about why he outed the actions of the nsa, the national security agency. >> when you have to make a determination about what it is that's important to you and if living unfreely but comfortably is something you are willing to accept, and i think many of us are, it's the human nature, you can get up every day. you can go to work. you can collect your large paycheck for relatively little work against the public interest and go to sleep at night after watching your shows.
if you realize that's the world you helped create and it's going to get worse to help orchestrate this oppression, you realize you might be able to accept any risk. i could have people come after me or any of their third party partners. they work closely with a number of other nations or, you know, they could pay off the triads if any of their agents or assets. we have a cia station just up the road, the consulate here in hong kong. i'm sure they will be very busy the next week. and that's a fear i'll live under, however long that happens to be. you can't come forward against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and be completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries that no one can meaningfully oppose them. if they want to get you, they'll get you in time.
i had just wanted to harm the u.s., you know, then you could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. but that's not my intention. i think for anyone making that argument they need to think if they were in my position, and you know you live a privileged life. you're living in hawaii,paradise and making a ton of money, what would it take to make you leave everything behind? the greatest fear that i have regarding the outcome for america of these disclosures is that nothing will change. people will see all of these disclosures. they'll see the lengths the government is going to grant themselves powers, unilaterally, to create greater control over
american society and global society. but they won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things, to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interests. and the months ahead, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse until eventually there will be a time where policies will change because the only thing that restricts the activities of the surveillance are policy. we consider that possible a stipulation of policy rather than a stipulation of law. and because of that, a noof leader will be elected. they'll flip the switch, say that because of the crisis, because of the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority. we need more power. and there will be nothing that people can do at that point to
oppose it. and it will be tyranny. >> and this just in to cnn, the department of justice has launched a preliminary investigati investigation. law enforcement official says the fbi has begun its investigation and plans to search snowden's home and computers and interview his girlfriend, co-workers, friends, family, the list goes on. jake tapper following the story very, very closely. you, tapper, tell me what he said? >> we talked to glenn greenwald, we were the first to interview him last week and we talked to him again today about exactly where snowden is. trying to get to the bottom of his motivations more, talk about what he might do now that the u.s. is going after him. we also asked him a question about whether or not "the guardian" since they are getting so many scoops from snowden, whether they are paying at all
for his room and board and just existence right now. take a listen. is "the guardian" helping him in any way to pay for room and board? >> no, it never has. and i actually asked that question when i first spoke with him about how he was financing his stay at the hotel and his answer was very convincing he was making a great deal of money and has been working for private contractors in excess of around $200,000, in excess of that. >> the big question now, brooke, if snowden is backed into a corner and he feels he needs to take drastic action or else he'll be extradited to the y united states and tried for any number of crimes, he could be charged with, would he take whatever remaining intelligence he has and sell it in an attempt to get asylum not for cash but for protection? and what glen greenwald said we
have no idea what might happen, but that does not seem to motivate snowden up until now. he spoke at length about how he was releasing these documents not for money, although certainly he could have made a very nice profit giving these documents to the chinese or the sh russians or any other number of countries but because he wanted the american people to know what was being done in our name. >> he made the point, he could have sold them and he didn't. jake tapper, i look forward to seeing this interview on the lead at the top of the hour. jake tapper, many, many thanks to you. >> thanks, brooke. and now, next, a doctor known as one of the top cancer researchers in the whole country but today she is making headlines for a much different reason, accused of poisoning her lover's coffee.
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talk about a bizarre case here involving america's top doctors. you have renowned cancer doctor a anna marie gonzalez accused of poisoning a colleague of hers who she apparently was dating by putting this chemical used in antifreeze in his coffee. gonzalez and gulo is a doctor, researcher and professor at the university of texas in the cancer center. she was once profiled by the susan g. komen foundation. >> she had lung cancer when she was 35 and i was 10. that's when i made the decision this is what i wanted to do. >> now this award winning doctor is charged with aggravated assault. join me now, the lead line of your piece, the doctor liked his coffee black. let's start there.
this happened in january. what do police say happened? >> well, what police say happened is the two doctors were together at her apartment or her place of residence and he asked her to make him a cup of coffee and then complained about the fact it was too sweet and asked if she could make him another cup. she said, okay, but she encouraged him to finish the first cup before she did so. he did and actually drank another cup of coffee, too, and complained about it being sweet as well. >> so then what happened to him? >> about 18 hours later he went to the emergency room. he was not feeling very well and he ended up having all kinds of kidney problems and doctors say he came close to dying. >> now aggravated assault charge. this is what in your piece you talk about the lawyers totally deny this for gonzalez-angulo 0, that she is completely innocent, is a distinguished citizen and scientist and the allegations are inconsistent with her personal and professional life. the statement added that the university of texas police department, quote/unquote,
jumped the gun in this case and filed charges that should never have been filed. is she still working? she is a huge deal in the world of on college. >> they both are. that's what makes this such a big story in the community. they are both very talented physicianses and highly regarded researchers, conduct all kinds of cancer research in addition to treating patients. is she, you know, did the police jump the gun? that's what you expect a defense lawyer to say. >> and is she working currently? >> she is on paid administrative leave. my understanding is he is back and work iing full time althoug he had been receiving dialysis treatment. >> so he is back? at the end of your piece, you weren't quite sure. >> it's not 100% sure but i know he's attended some cancer conferences and things like that. i think that he's generally pretty good to go. >> and, finally, eric, as you mentioned, the ripple effect, i guess, in the medical community, how is this being felt in
houston? >> well, it's been a tough couple of months at anderson. their president has had had issues he's been dealing with in terms of financial conflict of interest and things like that. it's one more weight that's falling upon the people at one of the world's premier cancer hospitals. >> and no motive, right? >> i guess all is fair in love and war. they call these things crimes of passion for a reason maybe. we don't know the motive. >> we don't know. thank you. >> thank you. >> from a building demolition to simon cowell getting egg on his face, we have all the day's best videos. we call it "hit play" next.
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superglue used to fix a lot of items, perhaps around the house, but this could be a first. doctors are crediting surgical superglue with saving the life of there three and a half-week-old ashlan. her mom said she knew something wasn't right. >> we go from a baby who is very quiet to one who is screaming and screaming and screaming and throwing up. at that point you know something's not right, something's very wrong. >> this ultrasound revealed baby ashlan had a brain aneurysm and surgeons used the surgical
superglue to stop the bleeding. susan cohen, i have been waiting for you all day to explain how this works. >> it's the same main compound as the stuff you buy off the shelf. isn't that wild? obviously it's sterile and all that kind of stuff. >> how does it work? >> so this little girl had an aneurysm that bled. if you think about the vessels, there's basically bleeding coming from it, extremely dangerous. and what they do usually is they open the baby up, i mean, they open up her head and do brain surgery. as you can see, this one was way deep in the brain. they're usually not that deep. the surgeon said i really don't want to open up this baby until i have to. and then he remembered other things he'd done with surgical glue. he fed a catheter through her leg all the way up to her brain. this vessel is the width of angel hair pasta, okay, so he's using an instrument that managed
to just put a bit of superglue right at the spot it was bleeding to patch it up. like we might use duct tape to patch it up. and it worked. he didn't have to open her up. >> when you said he was thinking back to the times he used surgical superglue, it makes me think he tried this before. is this something doctors do? >> to our knowledge this is the first time superglue had been used in this situation. it's used in other situations. one of the reasons is this is really rare. babies don't get bleeding aneurysms all that much. >> thank goodness. >> in the medical literature there have been 17 cases in 65 years. and doctors either kind of do nothing because they're too scared to do surgery or they do surgery where they have to open up the baby's head. >> and she's okay? >> she's great. she's apparently doing traffic. you can't notice that anything happened. i asked the doctor what's her life going to be like? will she have brain damage?
he said these babies brains adapt so well, even if she does have damage, some other part of her brain will take over. so these kids do just fine. so she had a stroke really and you would never know she had a stroke in most cases. they don't have a crystal ball but that's what they think will happen. >> superglue. elizabeth cohen, thank you. >> thanks. >> and now to some pretty cool pictures. guess who was in this helicopter with onlookers oohing and awing. who was it? that's next. ♪
all right. just want to share some cool pictures with you. britain's prince harry here, watch this with me. he wowed the crowd sunday in a surprise appearance at an air show. captain wales, as he's known in the british military, in the co-pilot gunner seat hoping perform some high flying maneuvers in the apache helicopter. prince harry returned earlier this year from afghanistan where he co-piloted an apache helicopter in the royal air
force. >> let's say you see this from time to time, the old friendly slap on the rear in the locker room. that might be okay. in the courtroom, not okay. >> did you hear the slap? former wide receiver chad johnson, also known as ochocinco. he was there for a domestic violence charge. that is when he playfully slapped his lawyer on the back side. the judge was not amused. >> the whole courtroom laughed because you just slapped your attorney. i don't think anything's funny about it. this isn't a joke. >> i didn't do it as a joke. >> everybody in the courtroom was laughing. i'm not accepting these plea negotiations.
>> well, the judge sentenced johnson to 30 days in jail, which prompted this tweet. quote, love me through the good and the bad because i'm gone. love you regardless. see you in 30." thanks so much for being with me on this monday. no "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. >> the man behind the biggest u.s. intelligence leak of all time comes forward. i'm jake tapper. and this is "the lead." edward snowden, a little over 24 hours ago, that name was cloaked in obscurity. now he's one of the most wanted men in the world after revealing how far the u.s. government is going to spy on its own citizens. we'll talk to the reporter he trusted with his story. the national lead breaking at this hour months before flu season even gets under way, a new report out says it's time to rethink getting flu shots. but is the controversial study putting lives at