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>> he just called. he's on his way. she is coming separately. she had to go to the doctor to switch birth control. the dow has its worst day of the year plummeting 350 points. and then the taliban offering to release the only known american prisoner of war in exchange for five gitmo detainees. will president obama make a deal and negotiate with terrorists? it appears "the sopranos" star james gandolfini died of a heart attack. how many of us are at risk right now that don't know it? let's go "outfront."
and good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett "outfront" tonight. stocks plunge. wall street suffering its worst day of the year. the dow down 353 points. the and if you look at the two-day drop, this one is a real jaw opener, 550 points. and that's about 4% in just two days. obvio obviously that's a significant plunge and the reason for it is fear. fear that all of the easy money ben bernanke has been plowing into the economy to prop it up to prevent a depression is going to start drying up. the chief market strategist at knight capital group. peter, i guess the big question is, two days, nearly 4%. you know, that makes people afraid. and it should make people afraid. the question is, is this temporary or something that could get worse and worse? >> it's a real wake-up call. i do think this is a short-term trend. given that, we are in a period of volatility. since chairman bernanke did mention tapering back in may, which is where we had our highs -- >> meaning i'm going to eventually stop giving you this free money.
>> we've seen a the lot of volatility in the market, more than we've seen all year. and sideways to lowered the last two days, significantly lower, this probably more work to do on the down side in the near term, but this is actually something that's needed. a pullback is needed. we need to get back to more compelling valuations in the indexes and stocks generally speaking. so it's not as if this is completely destructive. it's really more a question of longer term trend. >> it's pruning. when you look at the quantitative easing, the free mon money, every time he says i'm going to stock, when ben bernanke was going to stop markets fell 16%. the same thing the second time around. they fell 18%. so, in a sense, we've been through this before. but this time could be different because every other time he gave in when the markets started
plunging. this time he might say, hey, forget it. >> well, this time there's a different narrative. >> right. >> the economic data that he has used as a way of justifying quantitative easing, the economy is actually getting substantial ly better whether it's housing, financials, gdp expansion, industrial manufacturing production, employment numbers. the trends are positive and as a direct result it's more difficult for chairman bernanke to justify more stimulus. >> so a stronger economy may be better for all of us but may be bad for some wealthy people on wall street. and that's okay. all right, thank you very much. appreciate your time as always. good to see you, peter. our 0 on top story is negotiating with terrorists. the taliban is offering to exchange the only known american prisoner of war in afghanistan for five detainees at guantanamo. it's one person for five people. previous talks about a possible exchange stalled back in 2012. it is classified by the united
states as a quote/unquote specially designated global terrorist entity. many american officials have long maintained the united states does not negotiate with terrorists. peace talks will be held and they do expect the prisoner exchange to be on the table. so will the president make a deal? barbara starr is at the pentagon. barbara, obviously when you think about this, this is a big moment for this country and a big decision. how likely is it that this prisoner exchange will happen in this negotiation? >> reporter: well, i don't think you're likely anytime soon to see a direct prisoner exchange, erin. the u.s. does have a policy, we don't negotiate with terrorists but except, of course, that is how wars end. you go to the negotiating table. that's how you end an insurgency like afghanistan. that's why the u.s. is sitting down and talking to the taliban. the u.s. wants bergdahl back, some peace brought to afghanistan. the taliban want their guys back
and they want some measure of control somewhere in all of this. so there will be discussions. you might not 0 call them negotiations, but the u.s. meads to get bergdahl back and back soon with u.s. troops leaving afghanistan at the end of next year, there's not going to be a lot of an ability to try and figure out where he is and how to get him back if this doesn't work. erin? >> of course it's a great point of frustration for the u.s. and a perceived failure by many that they're actually negotiating with the taliban and not some other government entity. they hoped the taliban would be over, no longer in existence. things have not panned out the way everybody expected. barbara, bergdahl has been held for four years, a very long time. what are the circumstances of his capture? >> reporter: this is the thing that is still, after all this time, so murky. of course we will never know until sergeant bergdahl can speak up for himself and say what exactly happened. what we do know is a number of publications including "rolling stone" published e-mails where it was said that bergdahl wrote
to his parents, said he was disillusioned with the war. clearly didn't enjoy, didn't like being part of military life, and for some reason four years ago he walked away from his base in afghanistan. that has been the working theory all along, and he was very quickly kidnapped, picked up by insurgents. we don't know who he was in communication with that might have led him to walk away. that's what they think happened, but they have to wait and talk to him. erin? >> barbara starr, thank you. and now "outfront" press secretary for george w. bush ari fleischer and cnn national security analyst and former cia operative. ari, the taliban spokesperson said, look, this prisoner exchange is the first step in any peace talks between the taliban and the united states. let me just ask you this point blank. should the president be negotiating with a global terrorist entity? >> we do need to talk to the l
taliban as far as the withdrawal process and as part of the process of bringing the afghani society together once america is go gone. we need to do it recognizing the governing state is not the taliban. the governing state is afghanistan's government. a bit of a different issue. talking to them, yes. a direct exchange for hostages, of our hostage, a serviceman, in exchange for five at guantanamo? no. not as a direct matter. there are other ways of accomplish these things. it becomes part of the murky, tricky diplomatic world we all live in. as a direct exchange, no. >> bob, the democratic senator, robert menendez, told the hill and i want to quote him. i personally don't think we negotiate under these lines. for me it wouldn't be acceptable. do you think this could be a step at all? and i understand ari's point but, you know, murky around it. >> the taliban is a live ins
insurgency and they will be playing a role in kabul when we leave next year. i think the earlier we start these talks with him whether it's prisoners or other issues better. this government i give it six months to last, the karzai government. we have to deal with the facts on the ground and they're coming. we're going to be turning over large parts of afghanistan to the taliban. let's talk to them. >> ari, i guess just for a lot of people watching has to be this kind of shock or frustration but after all this, after more than a decade of war, we're saying, the united states is saying that they're going to be negotiating, doing business with, making deals with, again, not just the taliban but a group designated as global terrorist entity. >> we're in uncharted territory here. we never had a previous war against the stateless state with the taliban. they were toppled because the united states forging the alliance with the northern alliance and now it's the karzai government. the karzai government is weak,
the taliban have some elements of control in certain parts of the country. and we have an interest in the united states and was drawn to what will hopefully be an afghanistan that doesn't create more terrorism for the united states. that's why there's going to be conversations with the taliban that i think the united states congress and the american people can support. but you have to be careful about how direct and what we offer the taliban. we can't undermine the democratically elected afghani government that we hope will succeed president karzai. it is all part of the murky world how you deal with terrorists who have some level of control on the ground. none of this is a straight line. none of this is easy. >> all right. thank you very much. appreciate both of your time. let us know what you think should happen, whether the u.s. should make a deal of a sold yor for five guantanamo detainees. james gandolfini appears to have died from a massive heart attack. we'll ask one of the top heart
surgeons if his death could have been prevented. the whitey bulger trial today. a woman who survived the deadly machine gun assault speaks out and shows the pictures. and then former yankees manager joe torre's daughter made the catch of a lifetime, the best her father has ever seen. an infant fell two stories and she saved it. she tells us about the amazing life-or-death moment. an update on a story we brought you four months ago. a woman's body was found in the water tank on top of a hotel, and tonight authorities say they know how she got there. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as
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our second story "outfront" what killed james gandolfini. tonight as we wait for the autopsy results on the 51-year-old actor, we understand from the information that we have he died of a heart attack while vacationing in rome right after dinner. now it's still not known whether he had a history of heart problems or anything he was aware of. the truth is a lot of people don't experience any warning signs at all. 42% of women never had chest pain. a third of men never had chest pain. a lot of people who do don't re recognize it for what it is. well, i'm so glad to talk to you as i think everyone watching has had some personal experience and
these heart attacks so often just steal someone from you when you have no preparation for it. people eating dinner right now, how do you know how concerned they should be about their risk? mr. gandolfini had dinner, went home to the hotel. >> well, i don't think that dinner did it. it's the dippers beforehand that probably did it. and it takes years. it's not just you eat a steak and it stops up your vessels. >> right. >> it probably started, if he had that, i don't know. it probably started when he was 20. >> and then it builds up. what causes it to snap? >> well, ordinarily what happens, if that's what he had, is you have a narrowing in the vessels sort of like a rusty pipe gets stopped up. we have fancy names. we call it coronary ar they are
o arthero artherosclerosis and then there's no blood supply to the muscle. >> so gandolfini was 51 years old, which is so young when we think of other people, tim russert, another person who seemed so young. most people who have heart disease are older, 85% of them from our understanding over 65. for men the average age for a first heart attack is 66. so how common is it for someone who is younger to have a heart attack like this? >> i think we've made inroads into this. 30, 40 years ago, the mean age of men being operated was 52. the mean age of women is 56. the mean age now of the women, men are 79. women are 81. we've slowed it down. we haven't eliminated it. >> gandolfini's ex-wife in papers related to a divorce filing had mentioned he had serious issues with drugs and
alcohol. now obviously we don't know if that's true. this is just what she had said in papers. how much of a role do those things play, does alcohol play? >> well, i think the thing -- you hear conflicting reports and data that if you have two or three drinks a day, you have less coronary disease. if you have two glasses of red wine, you don't have coronary disease. but if you're drinking a lot, no matter what, it's hard to eat properly and not gain weight. so if you're drinking a lot and eating properly, you're going to gain weight, and that's a risk. >> it's the weight gain, all right. david letterman, regis philbin, larry king, all people on whom you have performed heart surgery. none of them are overweight. in fact, they're all very thin people. regis philbin is at the gym all the time. i want to play what they had to say about their surgery. >> i had a heart attack in february. i was smoking all the way over to the hospital. >> you were smoking on your way to the hospital? >> correct. >> did you know you were having a heart attack?
>> no. >> i had been feeling chest pains, you know. and a shortness of breath and all those little symptoms that you hear about. so i called the doctor, decided to take some testses and it was their conclusion that i should have a bypass. >> i went in there for one of those angiograms and they said, well, you're not going anywhere. you're really pretty badly blocked. >> these people are all thin. a lot of people think you have to be overweight like james gandolfini but, no. just because you're thin, you could have this? >> two things, they all had a history of smoking pretty heavily at one time. actually david had had stopped several years before, but i think you pay a price. his was cigars. and the other risk factor is a family history. larry's father dropped dead in his early 40s. he went to work and didn't come back. david's father, i think, had
some coronary disease. i don't recall about regis. >> you have to look at your family. >> genetics, too. >> family matters. >> did you have a mother or daddy or a brother or sister who has had coronary disease? >> all right. dr. isom, thank you very much for taking the time. we appreciate it. it just makes people feel so afraid because of what he just said, someone can go to work and never come home. explosive testimony at the whitey bulger trial. a woman who survived a deadly machine gun assault. pictures of what happened to her that night. plus, paula deen is in hot water over racist comments she reportedly made years ago. so is that okay? if you made them years ago, are you capable of changing, or is this a completely unacceptable thing? and jury selection in the george zimmerman trial. it is done today. we'll tell you what we are learning now about the people who will decide his fate. all business purchases.
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our third story "outfront" a hit job caught on camera. so today in the trial of mob boss whitey bulger one woman told her story, and she showed photos of surviving the machine gun assault in this car. the attack you're looking at, you can see how the window is totally shot out by a machine gun. the driver of the mercedes she was in was killed. multiple gunshot wounds from the attack left her boyfriend hospitalized until he died in
2001. bulger is on trial for a total of 19 murders. "boston globe" reporter milton valencia who has been in the courtroom, when you look at those pictures, it makes this, takes this out of the realm of television and into the realm of reality that this happened, it was a horrific murder. how did she describe what happened? >> i think really she brought this, as you said, to reality. she brought this trial to re reality. she told me later she didn't want people to think this was a circus or a joke, that people needed to realize innocent people were being killed and she really brought this reality, the sense of humanity into the courtroom for the first time. you know, we've heard of the hit man who slaughtered 20 people but we heard including from her direct testimony from those people who were affected by this and it was so poignant, so emotional, it literally had two
jurors in tears. the courtroom was gassed. i was gassed. you all know bulger the myth. we saw his victims today in the courtroom. >> when you talk about the jurors being in tears, that obviously says so much. bulger was there. he was in the courtroom. he was watching this. he was listening. jurors are in tears. you say that you were emotionally affected. what did he do? how did he respond? >> he was solemn, staring forward, as he has always been. he it tends to -- some of the bookmakers who he allegedly extorted in the past, he tries to stare them down, he's looked out into the crowd before. when he has certain people on the stand he doesn't want to pay attention to or can't pay attention to, he stares forward. we didn't see any emoegtion fro him that we saw from others, two jurors crying, victims, victims' families in the courtroom having to look away. >> and they are looking at photos and things that remind them of wounds that are deep and
have been there for a long time. and i know you wrote an article today, milton, the survivor of that 1973 shooting, the woman who was testifying said she was on the fence. she told you. she wasn't sure whether she wanted to testify but she decided to because she was looking at the testimonies of his former associates. so cold she wanted to put the victim's face on it. i'll quote her. i realized after reading the way the press was covering it all, i realized it was a three-wing circus for the bad guys. someone has to say innocent people were killed and it's not a joke. did you accepts any doubt in the courtroom about bulger's guilt? >> bulger has long 0 been associated with this story. his own cohorts have put him there. his lawyers have pointed out she could not name him as being there, but there's been a lot of history here, a lot of testimony, and she really brought it to the personal level, that reality level. >> thank you very much. and still to come, jury selection for the george zimmerman trial finished. we are learning about the six people who will decide the fate of the man who shot and killed
trayvon martin. we have those details plus a shocking revelation in the nsa leaking scandal tonight. hundreds of government workers, hundreds, including edward snowden, passed their background checks with the help of an outside company. and it gets even more sordid than that. we'll explain. the woman's body found in a water tank on top of a hotel four months ago that we reported on, police tonight now know how it got there. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start the second half with stories where we focus on reporting from the front lines. we want to begin with an investigation under way to determine the cause of an explosion at a fireworks plant that killed two people today. black smoke emerged from this roof of one of the facility's two buildings, thick smoke near montreal. about half a football field away, it was so severe that residents had to be evacuated nearby. they still don't know whether the facility house consumer or professional fireworks. we are told that can affect the type of explosion and the fire that ensues. an update on the story of the young woman found in a los angeles hotel water tank earlier this year. a lieutenant with the county coroner's investigation unit tells us the death of 21-year-old canadian tourist has been ruled an accident due to
drowning. as we reported in february, it wasn't until a maintenance worker at the cecil hotel was looking into complaints about the poe tell's water that her decomposing body was found. the official also suggested her bi-polar disorder was a factor. and a terrifying sight. so apparently a baby crawled out after window onto a new york apartment fire escape and then went into freefall. so that would be the end of the baby, right? no, because there was a miracle. luckily one person watching in disbelief was christina torre, a schoolteacher and the daughter of the former new york yankees manager joe. she caught and saved the 1-year-old. here she describes the moment he bounced off an awning and into her arms. >> hohnl lhonestly i did not fe weight. it was effortless. he felt light as a feather and i just, you know, it was easy to hold him and, again, i just think -- i kicked into gear and whatever forces behind me, it
just made sure i did what needed to be done. >> wow. talk with about the chasm of her life. the parents of the baby, meanwhile, are expected to be charged with child endangerment. it's been 686 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? median home prices were up in may, are up 15% year over year. that's making the national association of realtors chief economist nervous anotherousing bubble is brewing. he says prices are going up too fast and home building isn't keeping up to balance things out. after nine days of questioning an all-female jury selected for the george zimmerman murder trial. you heard me right, all female. and let's just break this down. this is how prosecutors and defense lawyers describe the six-person jury. you have five women who are white, one who is black and hispanic. that means a total of six. of the alternates two are men and two are women. all of the alternates are white. the racial makeup of the jury, everyone has said it's crucial because the case sparked a
national debate on racial profiling. zimmerman admitted to shooting unarmed teen trayvon martin last year, but he pled not guilty. zimmerman says he shot the black teen in self-defense. "outfront" tonight cnn legal analysts. thanks very much to both of you. let me get to this issue. on two levels i can't wait to see what you think. first of all, that everybody is white, almost everybody is white, and the lack of gender diversity. let's start with gender diversity. we have all women. >> all women. for me it's unusual. when i prosecuted cases, i never had an occasion to have an all-female jury. it will be very interesting for this case. clearly women don't leave their gender at the door of the jury room. they take it to the jury room all of their propensities. i have found and studies bear this out, female jurors are very cooperative in the jury room. there's a lot of give and take in the discussion. and so i think that will be crucial for a case like this that has to involve that
discussion. i also think what's fascinating about it is five of the six women are mothers, and this is -- the victim is a teenager, a child. and i suspect that will also take -- be part of the discussion in the jury room. i don't know if paul agrees with me or not, i think female jurors are partial and very sensitive when the victim is a child. >> so what does that mean is this does that mean that the defense -- i feel where you're leading me here. >> the first interesting thing we're not allowed to knock people off a jury because of their gender, all right? it's unconstitutional and yet what is the first question we ask? how about all women on the jury, what does that mean? i think what we're finding as we look at this, women are kind of hard to predict. i'll tell you something, i was running this by -- i'm sorry, ladies. i ran this by three prosecutors today. they were all men and they all
said women, when we have all women juries, we're terrified. they're much less predictable than male juries. that was the male stereotype. my take on it when i look at occupations and other factors, three of these women have guns in the family. they have permits. they have family friends who have guns. and, also, they have kids. will it help one side or the other? the final thing on the racial question -- >> i want to ask you that. you have one black and hispanic woman. five white. and on the alternates everyone is white. >> we've been looking at this case through racial lenses since it first broke, and i think the fact there are caucasians freedom nating on the jury probably will go in zimmerman's corner. i say that because i think that african-americans when they say trayvon martin, they see their own child. and i think they would come into the case having are more of a sympathy saying that he was
stereo typed and killed just because he was dressing like another normal black kid. and i'm not so sure that caucasian mothers will say the same thing, but they may. time will tell. >> is there any merit to that? >> i certainly think that as people we identify with those that are part of our experience, that look like we do. i reject the notion that a white female juror cannot sympathize with a black teenager. i reject that notion. i think that regardless of race, these jurors will be able to li listen to the evidence and go back into that jury room and in a collaborative way come up with a verdict. >> i agree with that as well. in the end they will. but i do think they're going to work -- the defense is going to work this idea that the white jurors are going to say, wow, he had a hoodie on and he was dressed like a gangster and zimmerman must have been afraid. they'll get more mileage with a kau kigs jucaucasian jury.
>> it makes it even more complicated looking at the human mind. >> opening statements on monday. >> and we will be talking to you then. thanks to both of you. a private company has been caught fudging background checks for hundreds of government work e ers. this may be one of those stories that falls into the category of shocking but not surprising. including former nsa contractor edward snowden. many of the employees in question including snowden had access to sensitive national security intelligence and a senate hearing was held today to determine how this widespread fraud that could have impacted the safety of this country has gone unnoticed for so long. cnn's chris laurence is "outfront." >> nothing but the truth -- >> reporter: a congressional hearing produced a stunning admissi admission. a private contracting firm may not have done a thorough background check on edward snowden. >> are there any concerns that mr. snowden's background investigation by you musis may have been carried out in a proper manner?
>> yes, we do believe there were some problems. >> reporter: the company in question is now under investigation for repeatedly failing to con can duct quality background checks. >> do you believe you're catching most of the fraud, mr. mcfarland, or do you believe there's more? >> i believe there may be considerably more. >> reporter: alarming when you consider at least 18 employees have been convicted of falsifying background checks. in one case a record certificse faked 1,600 credit checks she never completed. even worse, this woman's own background check to get her job had been faked by another investigator, someone convicted in a separate case. the inspector general calls it -- >> a clear threat to national security. if a background investigation is not conducted properly, all other steps taken when issuing a security clearance are called into question. >> the background investigation process is broken. >> reporter: former defense department official filled out a
standard government form to renew his top-secret clearance. what shocked him was the investigator spent hours asking the most basic questions. >> is your wife really julie? did you really go to school at august college? did you really live at this address? they simply read the form to me, and i simply said it was true. >> reporter: hamre says with the personal information available online a computer could do the same background check for $100. >> and, instead, we're spending $4,000 to have people conduct rather -- conduct investigations that aren't revealing anything. >> it's amazing when you hear this. like i said, in the category of shocking but not surprising but truly shocking. what is the root of the problem? funding problem? staffing problem or something else? >> it depend on who you listen to, erin. the inspector general says their resources are woefully inadequate and they don't have enough to do the kind of
oversight that a program this important requires. but bottom line, this is a billion dollar a year program that has never had an audit. and john homre says it's more about the procedures. he says computers could do about 90% of the work and money saved could be freed up to let the people go out in the field and do the really deep personal digging that the computers can't do, and that would lead to much more thorough investigations. >> all right. thank you very much. just unbelievable. still to come, paula deen is in hot water over racist comments that she made years ago. here is the question, isolated incident or part of a bigger problem? even if it is an isolated incident, is there any tolerance? should it be zero tolerance for that? the rest of the world thinks americans are needy. truth hurts. it's france that can help us. i am an american success story.
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to our sources around the world. tonight we go to china where the government is eager to flex its muscles in space. this time the chinese astronaut shows off by teaching a physics lesson from a space module. i asked nic robertson why this is such a big deal for china. >> erin, another first for china in space. zhang the only female astronaut teaching chinese schoolchildren in their classrooms about gravity, surface tension of water in space, about how you weigh things in space, all designed to energize these young children to think about space, think about science in the future, and encourage the people in china to support this costly space mission. this is just one of many trips. china planning a bigger space station in the future but still lagging behind the united states, lagging behind russia in
the space development and, of course, wanting to catch up. they carry the dreams, the space dreams of the nation, the chinese president told them, erin. >> thanks very much to nic. paula deen cooks up a mess as a celebrity chef famous for southern cooking is in hot water admitting to using racial slurs. she is being sued by the former general manager for savannah, georgia, restaurant. according to the lawsuit lisa jackson claims deen not only use it had on several occasions but wanted to have of a quote/unquote true southern wedding with an all-black wait staff at her brother's 2007 ceremony. this has one of deen's biggest backers starting to distance itself. the food network which airs three of deen's shows says it does not tolerate any form of discrimination and is a strong proponent of diversity and inclusion. we will continue to monitor her situation. all right. so should the network cut ties to paula deen 0 or not? great to see you.
stephanie, let me start with you. deen's camp released a statement saying she doesn't find it acceptable to use the "n" word and they say, quote, she was speaking largely about a time in american history quite different than today. i obviously don't know what she meant when she said that. should the food network wait or should had he terminate her? >> erin, i think this is a little bit too big of a pr problem to get back from. i don't know if you were on twitter yesterday but it exploded with people renaming all of her dishes racist names, et cetera. for someone who doesn't tolerate the use of the "n" word she reportedly tolerated it quite a bit including i think talk iing about hiring a bunch of tap dancing little "n" words for her brother's wedding or something like that. i mean, literally when i read this on the air today my co-host had the hitler face. it is beyond outrageously racist what she is reported to have said. >> so, let me ask you. we don't have all the facts here. we know what we know.
but paula deen claims she used the "n" word but stopped after the 1980s. all right. people change but she is a public figure. if she ever used it at all, is it acceptable she have a high-profile job like that? >> first of all, her use of the word is despicable. she admitted to using it in the 1980s. i'm not defending her words. let's not have a knee-jerk reaction, she should be fired today. because of the public outcry, others will come forward perhaps and say she used it more recently. she used it 30 years ago? people can evolve. you shouldn't be sentenced for sins from 30 years ago and never able to wipe the slate clean. if more people say a week ago or a year ago, gone. no one else, then you have to sit and wait. >> let me ask you about the other thing we said, though, the lawsuit does mention and, again, this is from an employee suing her for some sort of harassment or discrimination. that's who is making this
allegation. but she says deen wanted to organize a true southern wedding with an all black wait staff wearing white shirts and black pants and is alleged to have said in the shirley temple days they used to tap dance around. now that would be a tr . but dean saying in the 18 -- 1980s it changes sdchlt that change anything? >> there is no way to no. it's he said she said situation and that makes me nervous. stephanie's point, she's a laughing stock, the folks, hip sters on twitter. that's not her core audience and watching her shows. she doesn't necessarily have to worry about that, but i think that, you know, i mean the generation issues, it's a concern and will impact the audience eventually. the reason i would want to fire her, erin. >> yeah. >> is her use of sugar and carbs
which is crazy and killing people. i'm torn about this. actually, give her the benefit of the doubt, who knows, let's see if anyone else comes forward and give her time but these foods are poison. >> she's killed more people than al qaeda -- >> that's -- i -- >> a hyperbole. >> if she came out and said i want to explain to you my version of what happened and here is how i'm sorry a true, heart-felt, in depth explanation, would you feel differently? >> perhaps. my colleague dr. laura learned this the hard way. you can say it as many times as you want, you have a first amendment right. i love he's more concerned about the sugar than the words for black people. i understand. >> we have to leave it there. i promise he'll get the last word tomorrow night. is it fair? >> yeah. >> says dean. all right. thanks to all of you. every night we take a look
outside the day's stop stories for something we call "the out front out take." paris, having wine on the street, restaurants, churches, one of the world's most visit the cities with 29 million tour rests going there despite the fact people in paris have a reputation for being, shall i say, trying to change. there is a book et which includes greetings, spending habits and customs from people around the world and giving it to people across the city. they are trying to reform themselves. you have to give them credit. not just the french. in 2008 the chinese defendant began a campaign to help the citizens behave better, too, teach chinese zit sto refrain f spitting, cutting in line and other things to annoy tourists. a chinese american was in china
and she apologize gied for cutt in line. maybe it's the time the u.s. copied france and china. according to the paris handbook the four things american tourp rests are in need of, quick service, constant attention, reassurance when it comes to price and flenglish. according to them we are needy, cheap, and unwilling to learn a new language and you think the french are rude? something to remember as we head on vacation or welcome visitors including those french here at home. still to come, the noble prize winning, aamazing idea and what america'sbroken health system can learn from him. ng to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here.
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policies and asking patients to pay a small fee at the service time and sell diagnose not tick services and he is testing his idea in america. how do you make that work? you're explaining it. it sounds perfect but $3 a year, that's nothing. >> forget about the $3 part. in bangladesh it makes sense. here it doesn't make that much sense. >> what would be the equivalent here, just generally? >> asking for $10 per week. >> $10 a week. >> $10 a week per person than the primary healthcare is there. >> for that $10 a week the clinic in america will have health coaches, nurse practitioners, a social worker and one doctor on staff. if it works it's an idea many americans will welcome. >> the idea is to bring healthcare to people. the idea to keep people happy,
healthy so they remain healthy. >> "ac 360" starts now. george zimmerman will see who decides his fate. he said he doesn't have a problem. should the court have a problem? we'll talk about that and later, the best story you'll see all day. how a 3-year-old came to hear his very first words. >> daddy loves you. daddy loves you. >> i'll tell you about the revolutionary device that made that smile possible. >> we begin with the oldest organization, the x game movement shutting the doors and apologizing saying their world view has been quote neither honoring toward our fellow human beings or bibla kill. more more than three decades they do therap