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exdus international. tonight he gives the first interview since going public with that apologiyapology, so w lot to get to. edward snowden is alleged to be hiding in hong kong. the complaint in the eastern district court of virginia charging him with the following, theft of government property, unauthorized communication of defense information and classified intelligence with an unautorooized person. two of those counts falling under the act, and now the process to bring him back from hong kong underway. paula deen now and more breaking news. minutes ago she reacted to losing her food tv cooking show in a statement she says and i quote i would like to thank the food network for 11 great ye yeah -- years and i've been allowed to be in so much homes
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across the country and people sharing touching stories. she adds again, this would not be possible without the food networ network. food network will not renew paula deen's contact when it expires at the end of this month. this began building wednesday from a deposition she gave in a sexual and rational harassment lawsuit being brought by a former restaurant that she and her brother owned. in the transcript obtained by the huffing ton post she admits to using the "n" word and wants her brother to have a plantation style wedding and wants african americans to serve with white jackets. that said after backing out of a television appearance this morning on the today show, she first put an edited apology online this more complete version later. >> y'all, i'm paula deen.
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i was invited this morning to speak with matt about a subject that's been hurtful for a lot of people and matt, i have to say i was physically not able this morning. the pain has been tremendous that i have caused to myself and to others, and so i'm taking this opportunity now that i pulled myself together and am able to speak to offer an apology to those who i have hurt. i want people to understand that my family and i are not the kind of people that the press is wanting to say we are. i've spent the best of 24 years to help myself and others. your color of your skin, your religion, your sexual preference does not matter to me, but it's
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what is in the heart, what is in the heart and my family and i try to live by that, and i am here to say i am so sorry. i was wrong, yes. i worked hard and i've made mistakes, but that is no excuse, and i offer my sincere apology to those who i have hurt and i hope that you forgive me because this comes from the deepest part of my heart, and i will continue to work and continue to do good things for good people. thank you for listening. >> this controversy is the latest and most serious for paula deen, it is however, not
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the first. >> please use butter because it's so much better than the marge rin. >> reporter: she's so recognizedble food personalities in georgia. she's known for greasy, buttery recipes and made her a star and a tar get. >> look at all the butter in this kitchen. >> reporter: deen who started as a caterer built a south earn food empire opening the first restaurant in 1991 in va san that. she opened more restaurants and in 2002 began hosting her own television show on the food network called paula's home cooking. >> i'm going to smear the mayonnaises on that piece of bread. >> reporter: as deen's popularity grew, so did the controversy. they said she was promoting an unhealthy lifestyle and making off smith field home and philadelphia cream cheese and in 2012 more controversy.
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deen announced she had type 2 diabetes, a condition she knew about for three years before going public. she made her announcement on "the today show". >> i'm here to let the world know that it is not a death sentence. >> reporter: her credit ticks i -- critics pounced wondering why she waited so long and she tied her revelation to a partnership with a company that makes diabetes medication. >> i'm working with a reputable pharmacy company and working on a program called diabetes in a new light. you can go to our website. i'll be there for you and help you manage every day of your life with the s. >> reporter: she say she showed bravely coming forward with her condition and her career was relatively untouched. whether she can out last this
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latest controversy remains to be seen. >> we'll dig deeper into what paula deen is accused of saying. joining us by phone is her former publicist nancy. thanks very much for being with us. you were paula deen's publicist for six years. did you hear her use racial slurs? >> caller: i have not. i worked with paula for close to six years. we on the average traveled two weeks out of the month with her, big group of us. she's notorious for her group and i've stated at her home. she's stayed at my home. i've never heard her talk like that. >> in the deposition she does talk about using the "n" word perhaps in jokes in the workplace. did you hear her making jokes like that? >> caller: i've heard her tell jokes. no, paula would always make fun
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of me because she could call me politically correct nancy because i was always like -- which was funny. i was like the mommy in the group, and no one loved a good dirty joke better than paula, but, you know, i never heard her say anything that was horrible or, you know, she's just -- she has a great dirty sense of humor. she's notorious for that whenever she does her shows, sometimes i would joke with her and say no, you have to watch what you say with the jokes, but i never really heard anything that was all that offensive. >> you say a dirty joke. there is a difference between a dirty joke and a joke using rational slur. >> caller: no, she would do dirty jokes. six years i worked with her and traveled with her a great deal and never heard her talk like
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that. >> she does talk about this in the obviously, you support her and used to work her and feel close to her. >> caller: we worked together for six years. i stopped working with paula over a year ago. i haven't spoken to paula since. i have nothing to gain by this, but i have to tell you that in all truth, i was very saddened today because yes, there clearly were mistakes made but let me say this, i know this woman's heart. i may not have always agreed with how she, you know, how she ran her business or the direction that it may have taken. clearly, there were mistakes made, but i do know this woman's heart -- >> and i think it's -- and we should point out she acknowledged making mistakes and was asking for forgive nls. she wasn't very specific.
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i'm wondering from a pr stand point, what do you make of how she handled this situation? because she first put out this oddly edited video that was then with drawn, you know, she agreed to go on the today show and blew that off the last minute. she put out this oddly edited video and with drew that and put out another video and most people seeing that other video, it's sad no matter how you look at it. it's a sad situation and sad to watch this video. what do you make of the process? >> caller: the process was cringe worthy. it was not handled well. it doesn't paint the full picture of how -- what this woman's character is. they should not have agreed to go on the today show and not go through with it. i haven't heard anyone speaking for a trial, so i was confused
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by that. >> that's the thing you do have to consider is there is a lawsuit involved with this so from a legal standpoint she has to be careful in being specific of what she is apologizing for. she didn't give specifics what she was apologizing for but there is a lawsuit involved in this. it's a difficult situation for her to be in. do you think she should have made any kind of public statement given the fact there is this lawsuit? >> caller: anderson, anyone can play monday morning quarterback and come up with a greater illusion of what transpired which is most unfortunate. i would have handled it differently. i would not have let -- i probably would have picked one person that had great credibility and i think, you know, paula, what everyone loves about paula is she's adorable, she's funny. i don't think she was coached right. i don't think that she was
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presented in the best light, and it's -- it's sad all around. >> yeah. i think everybody will agree with you that it's really heart breaking sad because i think there is a lot of people that love this woman and love what she's done and her story of how -- >> caller: she really does -- as i said, i haven't spoken to her in over a year. i do know what she does behind the scenes. so much without publicity, and, you know, her group is a fascinating bunch of people. i mean she has virtually every et nicety, every kind of person, rate, children of immigrants, it's a very diverse group of people. she has no turnover in her crowd. >> yeah -- >> caller: as i said, i know her from a different way, and it's very unfortunate. >> it certainly is.
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nancy, appreciate you calling in tonight. thank you very much. >> caller: thank you. i want to bring in boyce watkins. with me here michaela angela davis. professor watkins, what do you make of this? i know you've been a fan of paula deen for a long time. >> yeah, i think her food is good, actually. it was one of my favorite restaurants so like a lot of people i was disappointed to hear about any of this. i tried to understand this. i tried to look at it from a human standpoint and when i see paula deen and i'm from the south like she is icy her like the charles barkley of cooking. she sells you food that might kill you and tell you a joke that might offend you and political correctness isn't her strong suit. if you look throughout her life you see a woman that has probably learned the hard way that you can't just sort of lay yourself out there for the public to consume because not everybody is going to get the joke, and i certainly don't get
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the joke because this is a very serious issue. >> it -- there's -- is there a difference between political -- people throw around that term political correctness but if, in fact, and we don't know whether this lawsuit is true or not but if she's using jokes with the "n" word in the workplace, what do you make of it? >> i was listening to this conversation, it's heart breaking. slavery was heart breaking. jim crow was heart broki breaki the people she may have offended, their hearts have been broken for generations, so to focus this on her feelings and what she's done is uncomfortable. so i think that, you know, her p.r., former p.r. person was talking this is really complicated, and i think she needed olivia pope or someone that could give her cultural context because her lack of historic and cultural context is really disturbing. >> you pointed out that's an on going -- you believe that's an
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on going issue with her the food she cooks has a long-going tradition -- >> southern food and black culture, she participated and benefits a big part of african american and american culture that she has not acre knowledged and could have done this without jeopardizing the case. she could say i understand the culture i'm participating and benefits and i'm sorry in giving historic context to the triggers she touched. she made no mention of the civil war and what a horror the institution of slavery is. she made no reference that jim crow is homeland terp rrorism. she has no compassion and comprehension -- >> not the apology but deposition where she talks about planning a plantation style wedding with african americans dressed in white -- >> is that her job? >> yes, i think so. >> professor watkins? >> i mean, she's a cook.
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you know -- >> she's a brand. >> i think it isn't -- i think it is important for her to be educated, absolutely the same way rappers have to be educated about destructive lyrics and stuff like that. don't get me wrong, she can be forgiven. workplace racism is one of those serious problems that so many people experience that so many people have a hard time fighting but let's sort of thing about this for a second. you know, she is a south earn woman born in the 40s, spent 20 years of her life at least in a world where using the "n" word was acceptable. she has to be confronted but at the same time we have to ask herselves how much different is paula deen from so many other millions of americans that will say things behind closed doors -- >> professor watkins, let me ask you because i've been getting tweets from her fans and feel
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it's the media's fault she got fired. and some of the things i've been hearing from people is saying well, look, she admitted to using those words long ago and in this lawsuit she's not saying that she used the "n" word more recently and acknowledged perhaps in some jokes perhaps she did. would that be in any way acceptable as a reason? >> no, no, i don't think you can blame the media for this. paula created this herself, let be clear about that. i think what paula needs to do is do a little more of what she's been doing without all the slipups and that means, you know, you have to apologize and show genuine remorse and humility. you have to show you're willing to change and grow and willing to learn. that's where people won't forgive you. if you're arrogant about it you'll have a serious problem. if she's the person i believe she is, i think she's going to be okay. remember, she grew up with these anxiety disorders, so pretty much everything makes her
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nervous since she was a child. so ultimately, this anxiety you see in the videos that go out and come down and the thing with the today show, i attribute that to the fact that i believe deep down she's a person that wants to do the right thing and wants to be a good person but that doesn't mean she's not infected with the disease of racism and if she's not willing to confront that honestly and use this as a learning opportunity, she has problems. >> you believe this could be a learning opportunity? >> absolutely. i believe she can be an ambassador and chant the south will rise again in a football game in alabama. she could move that into today and i feel like she really missed an opportune tip today. >> do you think she can bounce back? >> i don't -- like i said, e don't know. unless she really tries to learn. the fact -- i don't excuse her for -- she's living in today. she's profiting off southern
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culture today so to say she was born in time that was okay. i don't buy that. i feel like her fried chicken has come home to roost and she has to make a real effort and get uncomfortable to make a historic connection to where she's living and how she's living. >> we got to leave it there michaela angela davis, great to have you again and professor boyce watkins thank you. let's talk about this on twitter anderson cooper. i've been tweeting about this already. federal prosecutors charging edward snowden with charges under the act. we'll talk to jeffrey toobin and plus 360 exclusive, alan chambers gives his first interview since exduos shut down. i'll ask him why he changed thinking on reparative therapy. >> i know there are people who have taken their life because they felt so ashamed of who they are, felt like god couldn't love
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prosecutors are charging snowden with theft of government property, unauthorized communication and classified intelligence with an unauthorized person. two of those fall under the espionage act. the process of trying to bring him back from hong kong underway. snowden is the former contractor that admitted leaking highly classified documents about the phone and internet programs, documents he acquired while working for boost alan hamilton. the newspaper published some of those. glenn greenwald obtained some of the documents and joins me by the phone and jeffrey toobin. glenn, i know you think he did patriotism of revealing those papers. what do you make of this? >> it's the absolutely atrocious
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record of the treatment of whistle blowers and leakers. the espionage exact is designed to criminal wise descent. on the a total of three leaker haves been prosecuted under that statute in the pre-obama era. we now have seven, double the number, of previous presidents combined. this is why james good all who is the general counsel during the fights with the nixon administration over the pentagon papers says obama is worse than nixon, john mayer the great journalist for the new yorkers said these prosecutions have brought investigative journal list tom a standstill in the united states and it's a true threat to press freedom, and i think it's one thing to charge snowden with crimes but to charge him with espionage when somebody works for a foreign government or sells secrets, given what he did is the kind of extreme excess that the obama
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administration is guilty of for years now. >> jeff toobin, can you talk about these charges and explain them, the severity of them? >> the espionage act is a long and complicated statute that most people think of as espionage whether in a cartoon or, you know, people -- you know, julia and rosenburg in the '50s. under the words of the espionage act, it doesn't have to be that espionage where you give the material to a foreign power. all it has to be is information given to an unauthorized person that could be used to the injury of the united states in the words of the statute. so technically, it is possible to use the espionage act but glenn is right that the obama administration is much more aggressive in using the espionage act for leaks to journalists as opposed to
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spaying for a foreign country. >> jeff, the u.s. will ask china to arrest and detain snowden presumably if they are able to find him. what are the next steps for the justice department? >> here is where it gets compensated. he is presumably and i don't know, glenn probably knows better than i do, probably still in hong kong. we have an extradition treaty in hong kong. hong kong is semi independent from china and our extradition treaty from china is not -- with hong kong is not airtight. so if he can be found in hong kong which is not at all clear, and if both the hong kong and the chinese governments want to turn him over, there could be an extradition proceeding. all of that is enormously complicated and could take a great deal of time, but it all depends on finding him in the first place and i don't think
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that's been done yet. >> a businessman is offering a private plane to fly snowden to iceland if they don't extradite him to the u.s. do you think that's something we expe expect? do you have information about that? >> i think that's an option he's looking at but realize there is lots of support for him and what he did all over the world. people all over the world use the internet and are concerned about this spying and you'll see a lot of different options he has for countries and populations around the world to think he did a noble thing and should be protected rather than spending the rest of his life in prisonen. >> glenn greenwald, appreciate you calling in, jeff toobin, as well. alan chambers, his first interview since exodus international, so-called ex gay group shut down yesterday, for decades decades exodus told them they could change their sexual orientation. coming up. pivotal in the murder trial
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welcome back, tonight a 360 exclusive. in a moment you'll hear from alan chambers, head of exodus international, the head of ex-gay movement. this is first since exodus shut the doors days ago. they promoted what is often called reparative therapy, telling people they can change their sexual orientation. alan chambers is apologizing to people counselled by exodus. here he is in a documentary pwih lisa lang. >> i'm sorry some of you spent years of working through shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn't change. i'm sorry we promoted sexual orientation efforts about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents. >> many are curious what prompted his change of view and remorse. he joins me tonight.
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so alan, you've issued an apology and the organization exodus international has shut its doors. can you explain what you're apologizing for? or what are you sorry about? >> well, we're sorry for the many people who took part in the ministries or the counselors or were impacted by the rhetoric, frankly, of leaders and including myself over the years that caused shame and hurt and promises whether they were intentional or not of promising that orientation would change, and that they could expect something that they didn't come to receive. so that's something we're very, very sorry for, the hurt and the shame and the anxiety and the trama that people were caused. >> i got to say and i give you props for this, it's rare that anybody in public life changes their mind and then publicly acre knowledges and actually says the word i'm sorry as opposed to like, i misspoke or something. what -- why now?
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>> well, you know, it's been a long thing coming. certainly, coming to terms with -- with issues in our own life. you know, i came to exodus as a 19-year-old kid in 1991 and it wasn't until 2006 that i even admitted publicly that i still had same sex attractions, that those things hadn't changed for me, and listening to people's stories and hearing them say we felt we promised them something -- we did promise them something, that we did promote something that hurt them. that's -- that's something we couldn't help but apologize for and feel very, very sorry about. >> in one of the apologies i read you put on your website and it's titled i'm sorry, i want to read part of it. i'm sorry so many interpreted this religious rejection but christians as god's rejection. i'm profoundly sorry many have walked away from their faith and
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that some have chose ton end their lives. do you believe exodus is responseble for some people's deaths. >> i believe there are vulnerable people out there who are in a state of anxiety over their feelings and the things they cannot change, and they look to exodus and they look to religion and to the church to offer them help, and when we have told them that they should feel ashamed or that they should try to change these things that we have realized we cannot change, i believe that that causes all sorts of trama, and i know that there are people who have taken their life because they felt so ashamed of who they are, felt like god couldn't love them as they are and that's something that will haunt me until the day i die. >> do you now believe that it's possible to change your sexual orientation? >> no, i don't.
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>> but you -- do you consider yourself -- i mean, you are married. do -- and you've said -- >> i'm marry. >> and you said you have same-sex attractions. >> i do. >> which you work on resisting. do you consider yourself gay? >> you know, i think we're so apt in our culture to put sexual labels on ourselves that really are secondary, at best, to who we are. you know, for me, i do have same-sex attractions but i also have an exclusive attractions to my wife. in 16 years almost of marriage i've never been tempted to be unfaithfully to her. that doesn't mean i don't experience same-sex attraction. it's for me those areas of my life have changed. do have a very happy content amazing relationship with my wife that is everything a marriage relationship should be, and that attraction that i have to the same sex doesn't hinder me in that relationship. >> you actually met with people
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who have been through exodus, people who have worked, in some cases, for years to change their orientation. people who have attempted suicide in some cases. in lisa ling's special report god and gays, they actually confronted you and you apologized to them directly. i want to play one clip from that documentary from a man named sean. >> i woke up one day, my friend went to work and he had a loaded gun in his closet and i was so happy about dying it felt like i was opening a christmas present. that's how i felt. i went over to the closet and i stood there and i pray that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times, and i said god, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it, but something from the outside, alan, told me not to take my life, and i said god, why won't you change me? and it said to me because there's nothing that i need to change about you.
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>> amen. >> i was wondering what personally was going through your mind when -- when you heard their stories? >> it was ex trushuatingly difficult to sit there and listen to that. it was a crushing weight to -- to just simply hear their trama and their pain and their -- their anguish and what was going through my mind was i would do anything to have -- have fixed this. >> one of the things you also said in your statement, which i thought was really interesting, you said that -- and i don't have the direct quote in front of me but the world view that you and exodus have had over the last more than three decades, that it did not show respect i think to our fellow human beings, i think you said and it wasn't bib kilical. >> the notion that someone can go into a therapy session and change from gay to straight. we found that to be unbiblicle.
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we removed the whole reparative therapy component from the referral process. >> so you don't think reparative therapy works? >> i don't. >> can you be a christian and be a gay person and an openly gay person in the same relationship of someone in the same sex? >> i know a lot of amazing christians who are in same-sex relationships. >> and you believe a gay person can go to heaven? >> absolutely. the bible doesn't say that this type of person is allowed to have a relationship with jesus chris. that offer is open to every single person and the people who have a relationship with jesus christ. no matter what, when they have that relationship their eternity is secure. >> thank you. >> the interview went on for 20 minutes or so. we'll post the entire interview
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tonight on ac we'll play a piece of audio tape from george zimmerman trail. water so high, picture sos amazing you can't recognize the location.
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crime and punishment tonight
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in a court ruling that could be pivotal in the trial of george zimmer man, he's charged with killing 17-year-old trayvon martin. the concerns admissibility of testimony from experts who analyzed the screams on a piece of 911 tape. the question is whose voice is it, trayvon martin or george zimmerman's or someone else's. you can judge tonight. to judge it properly, you need to hear the entire phrase which includes the f word so if you would rather not hear that word, now is the time to turn down the volume. here is 360's randi kaye. >> reporter: this 45-second 911 call captures the last moments of trayvon martin's life. listen. the key and contentious question, who is screaming, is it trayvon martin or is it neighborhood watchman george zimmerman, the man accused of murdering him? >> do you think he's yelling
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help? >> yes. >> what is your -- >> reporter: after a single gunshot is heard on the tape, the screaming suddenly stops. >> i don't hear him yelling anymore. do you hear anything? >> no, i don't because i'm hiding upstairs. there was a gun shout outside the house. >> reporter: prosecutors say those screams came from an unharmed teenager fighting for his life. >> i have an exempt from zimmerman from the rean accountment. the screams tonight match at all so it tells me, it's not george zimmerman of the screams. >> reporter: the defense says the state's expert is relying on unproven science, instead defense attorneys point to the testimony of an fbi speech scientists who told the court with current technology it's not possible to determine whether the voice on the tape belongs to trayvon martin or george
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zimmerman. the speech scientists said with three seconds of uninterrupted screaming on the 911 call, there is no way to know for sure. >> we determined that screaming was not normal. it was by someone who was facing probably imminent threat of death or something. very difficult to analyze. >> reporter: still, the neighbor who made the 911 call told "ac 360" she believes it was trayvon martin screaming for help that night. >> i definitely could tell it was a younger youthful voice than it was the deep voice that i heard when they were arguing, and i heard them outside my window. >> reporter: trayvon's mother also told us she has no doubt the screams came from her son. >> people can say anything they want to. i just personally don't believe it. i know that it was my son that was crying out for help. >> reporter: george zimmerman's father testified the screams belong to his son. >> were you able to identify
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whose voice it was screaming for help? >> yes, sir. >> and whose was it? >> it was absolutely george's. >> reporter: it's not the only phone call from that night that stirred up controversy. last year it was zimmerman's call to 911. at issue, zimmerman was accused of using the f word followed by the word coons when talking about trayvon martin. >> where is he heading towards? >> the back entrance. >> reporter: audio expert tom owens conclusion, zimmerman actually used the word punks. listen again. >> punks. >> reporter: that pit of the call only lasted about 1.6 seconds, but the controversy still lingers. >> trayvon martin was not profiled because he was black. george is not a racist. >> reporter: he may not be a racist, but a jury will soon decide if george zimmerman is a murderer. randi kaye, cnn, atlanta.
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>> again, the judge's rulings as they expected shortly are set for monday. criminal defense attorney and author of "mistrial," how the criminal justice system works and sometimes doesn't and author of latest thriller "killer ambition." marsha, there is expert testimony who is screaming in that 911 call. how important do you think this is to the prosecution's case? >> i think it's very, very important to the prosecution's case. pardon the expression the smoking gun. the person screaming if it's determined to be trayvon martin it makes it clear he was not the aggressor and george zimmerman murdered him or goes a long way towards establishing that. the thing is, anderson, without an expert you'll have the people on the jury determining whether they believe it was trayvon martin's voice or zimmerman's anyway and you have the neighbor's lay opinion who said, as you saw on the tape piece,
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that he believed it sounded like trayvon martin's voice, a younger voice and he was there, and that might actually be the most reliable testimony of all. but at the end of the day, what is so critical about this ruling, is because it add so much weight -- may, may add so much weight that it was trayvon martin screaming, if the ruling is incorrect and zimmerman is convicted, it may be overturned on appeal if found to be error. so this is a ruling critical in many respects and may result in reversal on appeal if it's wrong. >> mark, why not just let -- you know, keep the experts on all sides and let the jury decide who they believe? >> well, because as marsha said, if you do that, it turns out this is junk science, which by the way, it's completely junk science. then the -- some appellant court, that could have been the determination why he was found guilty and therefore we'll reverse it.
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i'll tell you, however, we're in florida and this is reminisce of casey anthony case and wanted to talk about the human remains smell in the trunk, and i remember thinking at the same time that that was total junk science. so i don't understand what's in the water down there that the prosecutors are drinking because they bring in these people who are thoroughly discredited by the scientific establishment and try to present that as their case in chief. it really is mind boggling because as you saw on the tape piece marsha referred to, they say this is junk and it's up to the judge to be the gate keeper and keep this junk out of the jury's hands. >> marsha, do you agree it's junk? >> i am not sure, anderson. it may be. i'm not an expert in this field. i do know the experts have said that you don't tell whose voice it is when they are screaming, that screaming is very difficult
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to type because the voice is under unusual pressure and that may force somebody's voice into upper registers when it wouldn't be there and if that's the case and the scream is a distorting factor, i'm not sure how and i agree i'm not an expert so i'll back away from making expert-type opinions here but that alone to me seems to pose a problem with this. >> anderson, this reminds me so much of about 15 years ago in texas, they used to have this guy who would go around testifying in the arson cases and testifying about that the excel -- >> it's junk science. >> it's been debunked as junk science. >> what about the word profiling, you can use it but not in congestion with the word rational. does that make sense? >> i was perplexed by this. i don't understand why you have to front what words you use in the opening. if you want to say they
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profiled, they rationally profiled. he's a want to be cop, i wouldn't object. i would want the prosecutor to hang themselves out on whatever line they want to hang out so if they don't live up to it, i can argue it in closing. i don't get why you have to preview, if you will, your language before you do an opening. i understand previewing exhibits, that happens all the time but not my language. >> marsha, do you agree with that? >> yeah, that's crazy. the reason it happened, though, is because the defense came out front and said we don't want you to say x, y and z. i agree with mark, say it all, say everything because i want you to be able to be hung later when you don't prove it was rational profiling or don't prove he was -- >> thank you. incredible pictures, torrential rain, flash floods and death toll rising. where it's happening ahead. autopsy results in the death of james gandolfini. what killed the 51-year-old
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